WEBVTT - It's Time to Light the Lights

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from iHeartRadio. Hey there,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an executive producer with iHeart Podcasts and how the

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<v Speaker 1>tech are you? So this past weekend I ventured out

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<v Speaker 1>of my home in order to go to a show.

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<v Speaker 1>And really it was a show that was tailor made

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<v Speaker 1>for old people like me because the English Beat and

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<v Speaker 1>adam Ant were sharing the bill. So as I filed

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<v Speaker 1>into the venue with many of my fellow gen xers

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<v Speaker 1>and y'all, it looked like it was a college reunion

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<v Speaker 1>in my case, not that I recognize people, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's rare that I'm out with a group of people

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<v Speaker 1>who are in the same age range as I am. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I started to do what I often do when I

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<v Speaker 1>go out to stuff. I started to think, how can

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<v Speaker 1>I mine this experience I'm having for an episode of

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff, Which was tricky because I've already done episodes

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<v Speaker 1>about electric guitars. We played a classic one on Monday

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<v Speaker 1>if you miss that, that was the episode that originally

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<v Speaker 1>aired back in two thousand and nine. Now I've done

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<v Speaker 1>episodes about microphones, I've done episodes about loud speakers. I've

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<v Speaker 1>done episodes about synthesizers. I might do an episode on

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<v Speaker 1>knee or hip replacements, because, again, based on the average

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<v Speaker 1>age of the folks who were in that building, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure that would have been a relevant thing to

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<v Speaker 1>my experience that night. And yes, I am joking around,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is to remind you also I am in

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<v Speaker 1>that age group. I am joking about myself. But there

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<v Speaker 1>was a point in the show where one of the

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<v Speaker 1>young folks on stage, appearing with the acts, invited us

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<v Speaker 1>to jump to the music. About five percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>crowd actually made a half hearted effort to do so,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone else was like, you know what, no gravity

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<v Speaker 1>and I have reached an understanding we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>potentially invite disaster with blowing out a knee or a

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<v Speaker 1>hip or something. So that was a real thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>while the show was going on, one thing that did

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<v Speaker 1>spring to mind was the lighting there. The venue we

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<v Speaker 1>were in was a pretty decent size here in Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 1>it's called the Eastern It's not a huge venue, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is significantly larger than the tiny little clubs I

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<v Speaker 1>would go to when I was in college in Athens, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in those days, everybody was in a band. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>would get signed at some point to play one of

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<v Speaker 1>these small venues, and so I went to them a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was clear that this venue, the Eastern, had

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<v Speaker 1>a really good setup for groups coming in to rig

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<v Speaker 1>up their lighting and everything, and the acts had really

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<v Speaker 1>sophisticated systems controlling those lights and creating really cool effects.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, again, this isn't like a huge arena show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like you know, Van Halen in the late

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<v Speaker 1>seventies or eighties. But it was really impressive. And I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I did do an episode about the

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<v Speaker 1>history of stage lighting, but I haven't really explored the

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<v Speaker 1>history of computerized lighting rigs. So that's kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about. It is like moving lights,

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<v Speaker 1>not just what lights were used to illuminate the stage,

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<v Speaker 1>but how are they controlled and manipulated. What's the evolution

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<v Speaker 1>of the concert or show lighting rig and how do

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<v Speaker 1>they work. Now, clearly there's going to be overlap with

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<v Speaker 1>my older episodes on stage lighting. If you're curious and

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<v Speaker 1>you want to hear those older episodes. They include an

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<v Speaker 1>episode titled Lights Tech Stuff Action that published on June seventeenth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty. And then there was tech stuff Steps Out

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<v Speaker 1>of the Lime Light that published on June twenty second,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, but really more interested in the systems that

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<v Speaker 1>activate the lights and control brightness and move lights around

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<v Speaker 1>rather than the lights themselves. In this case, we will

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit about lights because it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hard not to, but that it's not really the pun

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<v Speaker 1>intended focus of this episode. So let's consider the evolution

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<v Speaker 1>of theater briefly, just to kind of get our minds

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<v Speaker 1>in the right place. If you go back just a

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<v Speaker 1>few centuries, as we all do on occasion, many theaters

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<v Speaker 1>were outdoor venues, so all of your lighting was natural

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<v Speaker 1>in that case, right, you had no control over it.

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<v Speaker 1>Generally speaking, you put up shades or whatever to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of shape the lighting a bit, but other than that,

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<v Speaker 1>this was beyond your control, and no one really thought

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<v Speaker 1>too much about lighting effects. You just told your story

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<v Speaker 1>and entertained your audience, or at least you tried to

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<v Speaker 1>entertain them. Your success rate largely dependent upon the circumstances

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<v Speaker 1>at the time and the people you were playing to.

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<v Speaker 1>But when theatrical productions began to move into buildings, which

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<v Speaker 1>happened throughout history at different times, but there were challenges

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<v Speaker 1>that you had to overcome. So how do you light

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<v Speaker 1>a scene so that people can see it, because before

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<v Speaker 1>the era of electricity, light would have to come from

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<v Speaker 1>sources like lanterns and torches and candles. And to be clear,

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<v Speaker 1>the era of indoor theater itself has a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>overlap with outdoor theater. It's not like everything was outdoors

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<v Speaker 1>and then one day everybody said, you know, let's pound

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<v Speaker 1>sand and go indoors. In Shakespeare's time, for example, there

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<v Speaker 1>were both kinds of theatrical houses. So the Globe, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most famous theaters in Shakespeare's time, had a

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<v Speaker 1>large stage exposed to the elements, and then you had

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<v Speaker 1>smaller theatrical houses that were indoors, like the Blackfriars that

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<v Speaker 1>was an indoor house. Interestingly, in Elizabethan times, at any rate,

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<v Speaker 1>the indoor theater houses were seen as places for younger

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<v Speaker 1>theatrical troops. By that, I mean like the actors were

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<v Speaker 1>often boys or very young men, often school boys. So

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<v Speaker 1>the adult actors would perform on the much larger outdoor

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<v Speaker 1>stages generally, and the indoor stages were used for people

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<v Speaker 1>who were still learning their craft. The difference in stage

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<v Speaker 1>size also meant the subject matter and indoor venues was

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<v Speaker 1>often far less action oriented. They were more talky, in

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<v Speaker 1>other words, a lot more talking than acting, like in

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<v Speaker 1>big fight sequences, So you just didn't have the room

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<v Speaker 1>to do something like a big battle scene that you

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<v Speaker 1>would find and say Richard the third or Henry the fifth.

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<v Speaker 1>But that indoor lighting, while initially a challenge, also presented

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities because a clever theatrical company could come up with

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<v Speaker 1>new ways to light a scene in order to add

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<v Speaker 1>to the effect that scene would have on the audience,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least they might try to do that. As

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<v Speaker 1>it stood, you often had to pause between scenes so

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<v Speaker 1>that members of the company could do things like trim

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<v Speaker 1>back the wicks of lanterns or replace burnt out candles,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know they would be consumed over time. So

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it just meant that the show would kind of

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<v Speaker 1>come to a brief stop, not like a full intermission

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<v Speaker 1>like you would have in a modern show, but it

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<v Speaker 1>would stop for a minute or two while people would

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<v Speaker 1>change out light. One early proposed design for an indoor

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<v Speaker 1>lighting system that could be done while a scene is

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<v Speaker 1>in play, so sort of a dynamic system where you

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<v Speaker 1>could adjust the light. Was this concept of a pulley

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<v Speaker 1>where you would feed a line through the pulley and

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<v Speaker 1>you'd hold one end of the line. The other end

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<v Speaker 1>would hold up one or more cans, and the can

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<v Speaker 1>would have its opening facing downward, and you would position

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<v Speaker 1>this over a candle so the candles lit, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you could lower the rope or lower this can down

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<v Speaker 1>by using the pulley, and you would allow the can

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<v Speaker 1>to lower down and cover or partially cover the candle.

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<v Speaker 1>This would allow you to dim the scene. Obviously, you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't go too far down or you would extinguish the candle,

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<v Speaker 1>as the candle would burn out all the available oxygen

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<v Speaker 1>inside the can and then just sort of sputter out.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, you could do this to actually dim the scene.

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<v Speaker 1>At least that the concept. It wasn't exactly high tech.

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<v Speaker 1>It was literally a rope holding a canister that could

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<v Speaker 1>be lowered over a candle. And I didn't see any

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<v Speaker 1>indication that such a thing was ever actually used. It

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<v Speaker 1>was proposed. There are sketches that show this, obviously no

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<v Speaker 1>photographs or anything. I mean we're talking about like the

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen hundreds here, but it showed that people were thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about this about ways to affect the lighting while a

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<v Speaker 1>performance is underway in order to convey a mood or

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<v Speaker 1>emotion to an audience. But it would take some time,

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<v Speaker 1>quite some time for this concept to really become practical,

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<v Speaker 1>and honestly, we have to jump way, way way ahead

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the discovery of electricity and our ability to harness

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<v Speaker 1>electricity and the creation of electrical lighting. Now that's not

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<v Speaker 1>to say that people in theater did an experiment with

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<v Speaker 1>different methods for lighting and getting across a certain feeling

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<v Speaker 1>through lighting effects. They did try lots of different stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but some of those were really gimmicky or they were

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<v Speaker 1>one offs and not indicative of a larger movement, nor

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<v Speaker 1>did they really build toward the technologies that ultimately would

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<v Speaker 1>replace them. So we're just gonna skip them instead. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about some early attempts to motorize and

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<v Speaker 1>then automate lighting controls for stage work. So one patent

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<v Speaker 1>filed way back in nineteen twenty five and awarded in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty eight was something that a guy named H. F.

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<v Speaker 1>King filed for, and it was he just called his

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<v Speaker 1>invention a light projector. In the description of the invention, HF.

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<v Speaker 1>King writes, quote, the principal object of the invention is

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<v Speaker 1>to produce a light projector which may be moved automatically

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<v Speaker 1>to cause the stream of light beams to move through

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<v Speaker 1>a predetermined path and spot successively a plurality of objects,

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<v Speaker 1>and hold the spot for an interval on at least

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<v Speaker 1>one of said objects. End quote. Okay, let's break that down,

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<v Speaker 1>make it plane English. Essentially, what HF. King is saying

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<v Speaker 1>is that the invention he proposed is for a light

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<v Speaker 1>that on its own could move through a predetermined path

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<v Speaker 1>and then it could stop on one or more spots

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<v Speaker 1>for however long it was that you had programmed the

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<v Speaker 1>light to do. This. Programming is being used not in

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<v Speaker 1>the computer sense in this case. It's more like setting,

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<v Speaker 1>like making a setting where the light will hold on

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<v Speaker 1>this position for whatever given amount of time you need.

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<v Speaker 1>The illustrations accompanying the patent really helped me understand King's invention.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a lot of patents, the language gets to be

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<v Speaker 1>pretty like obtuse, but the illustrations help a lot, and

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<v Speaker 1>he illustrated electric lamps mounted on a housing that could

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<v Speaker 1>pivot either vertically or horizontally, so they could tilt or

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<v Speaker 1>pan essentially or vertical motion. The tilting, an electric motor

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<v Speaker 1>would connect to a gear and this gear, in turn

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<v Speaker 1>would connect to a second gear attached to the yoke

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<v Speaker 1>the housing for the light itself. So you had an

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<v Speaker 1>electric motor turning a gear and it would be connected

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<v Speaker 1>to the second gear via a chain. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>chain drive kind of like what you would see in

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<v Speaker 1>a bicycle, right, So the gear would engage the chain

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<v Speaker 1>and that would in turn move the other gear to

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<v Speaker 1>adjust the tilting of the light. So turning the motor

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<v Speaker 1>in one direction would allow you to tilt the light upward.

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<v Speaker 1>Turning the motor and the other direction would have you

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<v Speaker 1>tilt the light downward, and very clever and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was a really neat kind of of concept. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>horizontal movement, the panning, so panning left or right was

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<v Speaker 1>using just a simple gear system. There was no chain

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<v Speaker 1>drive for this. It was a gear system connected to

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<v Speaker 1>the overall mount for the lamp. So again you would

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<v Speaker 1>have like the teeth of these gears engage and turn

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<v Speaker 1>the lamp either to the left or to the right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just be connected to the larger motor for

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<v Speaker 1>the overall lamp. So Kings patent describes a potential use

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<v Speaker 1>case for his invention that brings in the automatic part

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<v Speaker 1>of this concept, because so far you're talking about these

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<v Speaker 1>gears and motors. You could just rig up a control

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<v Speaker 1>system that allowed you to manually adjust where this light

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<v Speaker 1>was pointed. Right. Maybe you have like a dial, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>to control panning, and maybe a second deal to control tilt.

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<v Speaker 1>And by adjusting the values, you could engage the motors

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<v Speaker 1>and turn the lamp to point to wherever you needed.

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<v Speaker 1>But he wanted an automated system. He describes a store

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<v Speaker 1>window behind which you might have several items that the

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<v Speaker 1>store wants to highlight to the window shopper, one after

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<v Speaker 1>the other. So just imagine that you've got this display,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's in the dark, it's behind a shop window,

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<v Speaker 1>you're on the street, you're looking in, and then a

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<v Speaker 1>spotlight turns on and it shines on let's say, let's chair,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the light suddenly swivels and moves to highlight

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<v Speaker 1>a cl and then it moves again to show a

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<v Speaker 1>radio and so on. Now, eventually the light finishes its

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<v Speaker 1>tour of consumer goods. And goes back to the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the sequence. So King explains that his idea was

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<v Speaker 1>to create this gadget that can focus on any specific

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<v Speaker 1>spot within a physical space for a given amount of time,

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<v Speaker 1>and you would essentially program the lamp to shine on

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<v Speaker 1>a point for let's say five seconds before moving to

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<v Speaker 1>a separate specific point and then staying there for like

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<v Speaker 1>ten seconds and so on. So how did King handle

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<v Speaker 1>the timing? Well, again, you know, this is in the

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<v Speaker 1>early nineteen twenties, mid nineteen twenties, So he used mechanical

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<v Speaker 1>action with a series of gears that could be set

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<v Speaker 1>so that the light would stay at any particular spot

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<v Speaker 1>for a particular amount of time, and the electric motor

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<v Speaker 1>would provide the power for the system, and the gears

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<v Speaker 1>and the chain drives and all that stuff would do

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<v Speaker 1>all the mechanical work. And it was very clever, but

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<v Speaker 1>obviously something that was best suited for a static display,

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<v Speaker 1>not for a stage play. You know, you couldn't theory

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<v Speaker 1>design a performance round this kind of technology. But think

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<v Speaker 1>about that, the light would be pre set to go

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<v Speaker 1>through this sequence, which means your performance would have to

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<v Speaker 1>match the timing that was pre set on this Because

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't adjust the lighting on the fly. It was

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<v Speaker 1>going to do what it was going to do because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what the gears had been set to. So there

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<v Speaker 1>was no real room for artistic improvisation. So this lighting

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<v Speaker 1>system would not be ideal for a live performance. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>you would just probably end up missing your cue or

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<v Speaker 1>being in the dark or whatever. But the ideas that

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<v Speaker 1>King suggested would evolve to find their way into stage

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<v Speaker 1>systems down the line. We'll talk more about those in

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<v Speaker 1>just a moment, but first let's take a quick break

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<v Speaker 1>to thank our sponsors. Okay, we're back. So the physical

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<v Speaker 1>components that would move lights, clearly, they would evolve. But

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<v Speaker 1>what about controlling banks of lights? Right, so we're stepping

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<v Speaker 1>away from the system that would actually make the lights

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<v Speaker 1>pan and tilt. Let's talk about the larger aspect. Instead

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<v Speaker 1>of an individual light, you have to control a whole

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<v Speaker 1>series of lights and make them do what you need

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<v Speaker 1>them to do. How do you do that? Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one thing to have a light capable of changing

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<v Speaker 1>direction or dimming or brightening or whatever, but it's another

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<v Speaker 1>thing to just have a whole mess of these lights. Now, fortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>there was another technology that was evolving around the same

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<v Speaker 1>time as the tech that would allow us to make

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<v Speaker 1>a lamp move physically, and that would be the control

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<v Speaker 1>console or the electrical switchboard. And these switchboards were essentially

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<v Speaker 1>circuit managers, with the early ones were just using resistance dimmers.

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<v Speaker 1>So resistance refers to the tendency of a particular material

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<v Speaker 1>or component to resist the flow of electricity through it.

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<v Speaker 1>Either current or voltage just depends upon the nature of

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<v Speaker 1>the resistor. Some materials have very little electrical resistance. They

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<v Speaker 1>are good conductors. In other words, they very much allow

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<v Speaker 1>facilitate electricity to flow through them. Some materials have very

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<v Speaker 1>very high resistance. They serve as good insulators. Some materials

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<v Speaker 1>or some components have variable resistance, which changes under certain conditions.

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<v Speaker 1>I might have to do a full episode about variable

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<v Speaker 1>resistors in the future because that does require a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more explanation and would get us way off track. But

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<v Speaker 1>the important thing to remember is that if you increase

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<v Speaker 1>the resistance on a circuit, you can change the value

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<v Speaker 1>of the current or voltage of that circuit. And with

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<v Speaker 1>the case of resistance stemmers, we're really talking about the current.

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<v Speaker 1>So the switchboard would allow an operator to manually switch

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<v Speaker 1>a light circuit so that the circuit flowed through a resistor,

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<v Speaker 1>and that meant the output would be reduced. The amount

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<v Speaker 1>of current output by the circuit would reduce, which meant

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<v Speaker 1>the electrically powered light the load on the circuit would

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<v Speaker 1>mean that the lights would produce less light. They would

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<v Speaker 1>dim in other words, so essentially the operator was denying

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<v Speaker 1>the lamp the juice it needed to shine on like

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<v Speaker 1>a crazy diamond. So resistance dimmers they're obsolete now, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't use these anymore. They were used on Broadway Way

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<v Speaker 1>Way longer than they were used in other parts of

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<v Speaker 1>the theatrical world because Broadway was really stuck in its

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<v Speaker 1>ways for a very long time. And also, like you

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<v Speaker 1>had people who had spent a huge amount of money

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<v Speaker 1>establishing these theaters, and they weren't super keen on the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of having to rip out the systems that were

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<v Speaker 1>working okay, just to upgrade them to something better, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's money that they could use to I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>wlpe their cigars or whatever. I've got this weird idea

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<v Speaker 1>of what theater owners are like. I don't know any personally,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's all just based off the stereotypes scene in

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<v Speaker 1>media anyway, they were a very early means of giving

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<v Speaker 1>theatrical light operators some control over the lighting of scenes

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<v Speaker 1>beyond just switching lights on or off. They could now

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<v Speaker 1>dim the lights by using these resistance dimmers. And they

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<v Speaker 1>date all the way back to the eighteen hundreds actually,

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<v Speaker 1>but they would be used in Broadway really up to

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen seventies. Kind of crazy that Broadway would rely

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<v Speaker 1>on this old technology for so long while other theaters

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<v Speaker 1>would upgrade much faster. Michael Mell, president of a company

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<v Speaker 1>called Theater Design, has an article about lighting equipment in

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<v Speaker 1>which he reveals that the dimmer switchboards on Broadway got

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<v Speaker 1>the name piano boards because the actual board that housed

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<v Speaker 1>these resistance stemmers kind of looked a little bit like

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<v Speaker 1>an upright piano. So, as he writes, quote, running on

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<v Speaker 1>DC current, each six kilowatt or three kilowatt quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>plate introduced resistance into the circuit. To dim the lights,

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<v Speaker 1>a Broadway musical might use six PM boards, eighty two

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<v Speaker 1>dimmers controlling a total of two hundred eighty two kilowatts

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<v Speaker 1>of light, and five fourteen slash three kilowat boards, typically

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<v Speaker 1>one stage hand operated two piano boards end quote. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, control consoles would evolve over time, and

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<v Speaker 1>by the mid twentieth century, at least outside of Broadway,

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<v Speaker 1>you were looking at boards that would have dozens or

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<v Speaker 1>even more than one hundred channels. So channels in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>essentially it refers to separate dedicated circuit pathways. You can

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<v Speaker 1>think of these as like alternate paths that electricity can

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<v Speaker 1>take in order to do whatever it is needs to do. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously keeping all the channels organized is important. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that channel one controls a specific light or bank

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<v Speaker 1>of lights versus channel five. That's the difference between a

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<v Speaker 1>scene being bathed in light appropriately or a scene being

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<v Speaker 1>performed in darkness while an empty part of the stage

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<v Speaker 1>is really well lit. You don't want that second thing

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<v Speaker 1>happening unless it's meant for, like a comedy, like the

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<v Speaker 1>Play that Goes Wrong or something. As early as nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four, the Royal Opera House in London was using

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<v Speaker 1>a Grand Master board, which had one hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>channels that in turn could connect to up to one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy five dimers. Obviously, some demers would share

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<v Speaker 1>a single channel. By the nineteen fifties, lighting systems were

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<v Speaker 1>making use of magnetic amplifiers rather than the old demer

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<v Speaker 1>resistance method. Again assuming you weren't on Broadway. So now

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<v Speaker 1>instead of putting a load on an electronic circuit to

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<v Speaker 1>reduce current outflow, you could use an amplifier, and you

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<v Speaker 1>would use an amplifier to boost a signal. If you

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<v Speaker 1>boost a signal, then you'd get brighter lights, or you

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<v Speaker 1>could ease off on the amplifier to allow a weaker

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<v Speaker 1>signal to go for demmer lights. And one big advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of this approach is that the board didn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be super close to the load. So the old resistance

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<v Speaker 1>demers the ones that would control lights like on Broadway

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, typically these had to be fairly close to

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<v Speaker 1>the lights that they controlled. So that meant that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you had to have operators at various points around the

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<v Speaker 1>stage to control that specific group of lights and to

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<v Speaker 1>allow them to dim or brighten, and you couldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>like one centralized light operator station. And it was a

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<v Speaker 1>very collaborative effort in order to be able to control

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<v Speaker 1>lights appropriately for performance. Now back to moving lights. A

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<v Speaker 1>European company called Pani built a moving lighting system in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen fifties. Some of the references I saw said

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<v Speaker 1>it was Austrian company, some said German. And I tried

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<v Speaker 1>to find more information about this, to get actual details

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<v Speaker 1>about how did the system work, how is it invented?

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<v Speaker 1>And I could find a lot of presentations and articles

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<v Speaker 1>that mentioned Pani and mentioned the moving lights, but they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a whole lot of details, Like I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>really follow that up with information about who was responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for creating the system and how did it work, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or how a controller could provide input that would control

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<v Speaker 1>the movement of the connected theatrical lights. So it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>that we're talking about the nineteen fifties here, where maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you would have like an electronic panel in front of

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<v Speaker 1>you with dials and faders and that kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and that by changing these controls you could you manipulate

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<v Speaker 1>these lights without having to actually set your hands on

0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:24.359
<v Speaker 1>the lights themselves. But you know, we're also still talking

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<v Speaker 1>about an era where computerized controllers are still a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of decades off, because in the nineteen fifties, you weren't

0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:34.440
<v Speaker 1>using computerized systems. Computers in the nineteen fifties, were these

0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:38.240
<v Speaker 1>these systems that took up entire floors of buildings. You

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have one just to use for a stage production. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if the Ponte lights had any automated

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<v Speaker 1>aspects to them, or if truly it was just electronic

0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:54.080
<v Speaker 1>movement systems, but a human operator had to manually change

0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:56.359
<v Speaker 1>everything around, Like I don't know if there were any

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<v Speaker 1>preset from those eras. I mean, later Ponti lights definitely

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<v Speaker 1>have precas, but at that time I just don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>So it did, provide, however, a lot more flexibility and

0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:08.400
<v Speaker 1>nuance for lighting technicians in either case. So we've gone

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<v Speaker 1>from being able to control a very simple process like

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<v Speaker 1>brightening or dimming a light, to being able to move

0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:16.480
<v Speaker 1>lights to shine on specific parts of the stage, all

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<v Speaker 1>from a control system, rather than having to have someone

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<v Speaker 1>stationed at each individual light. In nineteen fifty five, a

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<v Speaker 1>fellow named George Charles Eisenower. That's iz noo r, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's pronounced eisen Hour. From what I understand, he founded

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<v Speaker 1>a consulting company for theater design. So he also had

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<v Speaker 1>a prestigious career as a professor at Yale, where he

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<v Speaker 1>taught things like lighting and theater design. And he worked

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<v Speaker 1>on innovating in that field. He designed electronic dimming systems

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<v Speaker 1>for theaters. He patented a lot of different technologies over

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<v Speaker 1>his time, and his control system would simplify operations so

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<v Speaker 1>that a single lighting operator could control all the lighting

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<v Speaker 1>in a theatrical house, thus eliminating the need for having

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<v Speaker 1>all these individual stations where you would have an operator

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<v Speaker 1>handling two banks of resistant stemmers. So a huge, huge

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<v Speaker 1>leap forward. Also, from what I understand, Eisenhower was ken

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<v Speaker 1>tankeris is probably the wrong word. He had very exacting standards,

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<v Speaker 1>and apparently some people found him incredibly useful and helpful

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<v Speaker 1>to work with, and other folks really clashed with him.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's kind of a love or hate kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 1>From what I understand, I never met him. As a professor,

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<v Speaker 1>Eisenhower oversaw countless efforts to create better and more versatile

0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:48.760
<v Speaker 1>moving lights. And these stage lights could again pan and tilt,

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:52.280
<v Speaker 1>and they use electric motors servos essentially to do the

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<v Speaker 1>work of turning the light or tilting the light in

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<v Speaker 1>specific directions according to the control inputs. Now back to

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 1>the control board. One thing that engineers figured out how

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:06.280
<v Speaker 1>to do is to make preset boards, So we have

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<v Speaker 1>to think of the whole control schema in order for

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<v Speaker 1>this to make sense. At the top, you've got the

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<v Speaker 1>master control board, right, This is the board that determines

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<v Speaker 1>which pathway the various circuits form in order to get

0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 1>a specific result. But subject to the master control board

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:27.920
<v Speaker 1>could be these preset boards. And as the name suggests,

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<v Speaker 1>a preset board could be pre set to specific values

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<v Speaker 1>so that when the master control board switched power to

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<v Speaker 1>that specific preset, you would get the effect that was

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<v Speaker 1>programmed on that preset. So let's say you're doing a

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<v Speaker 1>theatrical production, and let's say that you know you've got

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<v Speaker 1>your script and you see then the script, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>scene that's going to be set in a darkened bedroom.

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<v Speaker 1>That the rest of this show is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>very bright and colorful, but you're going to have one

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<v Speaker 1>sequence in a bedroom where it's supposed to be dim. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>clearly you're still going to need lights because you want

0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:06.080
<v Speaker 1>to convey to the audience that it's a dark in bedroom,

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<v Speaker 1>but they still need to see what's going on. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't just have a dark stage. I mean you could,

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<v Speaker 1>but then this discussion doesn't matter. So you want to

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<v Speaker 1>give the feeling that it's a darkened bedroom without it

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<v Speaker 1>actually being so dark that no one can see anything.

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<v Speaker 1>So you spend some time during tech. Tech is the

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<v Speaker 1>period where you are setting up the lights and the

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<v Speaker 1>sound and everything for your play. It's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most frustrating parts of being an actor. Probably even more

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<v Speaker 1>frustrating for stage managers and directors, but it's frustrating as

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<v Speaker 1>an actor because it means that you are going through

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<v Speaker 1>the play seen by scene, but there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>stopping and starting because the tech crew is trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get the technical aspect, the lighting and everything at just

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<v Speaker 1>the right levels to tell the story that they want

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<v Speaker 1>to tell. And as an actor, you're sitting there like,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just want to say my lines and walk

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<v Speaker 1>to where I need to walk and look pretty. But

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<v Speaker 1>you're not allowed to do that because you got to

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<v Speaker 1>be part of the team. Actors hate being part of

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<v Speaker 1>the team. I'm making a lot of generalizations, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>also been in a lot of productions anyway. So what

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:14.879
<v Speaker 1>you're doing is you're getting your lights set in the

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 1>right position, the right brightness, the right color temperature. You

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:22.439
<v Speaker 1>want to make sure that the scene is lit the

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<v Speaker 1>way that you really intended. And then once you do that,

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 1>then you have it set to one of these preset boards,

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:34.399
<v Speaker 1>which essentially saves all those settings. Essentially says, all right, these,

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, fifteen lights out of fifty are going to

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:40.159
<v Speaker 1>be active for this scene. They're all going to be

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:43.960
<v Speaker 1>in these specific directions and brightness, et cetera. And then

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:47.120
<v Speaker 1>when you use a fader on the master control board,

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 1>you can shift to that preset bank of lights and

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 1>the lighting scheme that you created for that scene will

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<v Speaker 1>come up, and then the other lighting will come down

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:02.399
<v Speaker 1>and voil a, you've got the transition. So preset boards

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<v Speaker 1>typically would have multiple banks that as collections of settings,

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:09.920
<v Speaker 1>so you could just designate different banks of lighting settings

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:12.399
<v Speaker 1>for different scenes, and you can use controls like a

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 1>cross fader to shift from one bank of settings to another,

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<v Speaker 1>typically in a really gradual way, so that the transition

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>isn't jarring. Unless that's actually your intent. You could do

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 1>a jarring lighting transition that is specifically meant to draw

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 1>attention to itself. That is a valid way of expressing

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 1>art through light as well, but obviously you have to

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:37.439
<v Speaker 1>be intentional with it. If it's done by accident, then

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>it just kind of detracts from the experience. Okay, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to take another quick break to thank our sponsors.

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>When we come back, we're going to be talking more

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 1>about the rock and or roll world. Okay, so before

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<v Speaker 1>the break, you know that we're going to talk about

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>rock and roll. And that's because rock and roll shows

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 1>would take lighting systems and kick them into overdrive. Because

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 1>it's one thing to design these lighting systems for theaters,

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 1>but innovation in theater is a very gradual thing generally speaking,

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 1>like from a technical perspective anyway, but rock and roll

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>would really push things much harder because while you did

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 1>have these theatrical houses making big strides and innovation, you know,

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 1>their goal was really to just create specific lighting effects

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 1>for specific scenes, and the lighting operator's job was just

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 1>to switch the lights from scene to scene to get

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 1>the right effect. I don't mean to diminish lighting operators jobs.

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 1>They're very important, but you know, they had a very

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 1>well defined set of parameters they were working inside rock

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>and roll, though, that would really open up new opportunities

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 1>and challenges. So by this time, we're getting up into

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 1>the early nineteen seventies and rock acts were really starting

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 1>to fill out larger venues. So it's not just clubs

0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and bars and smaller theaters that we're talking about. We're

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 1>talking about, you know, maybe huge concert halls or really

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 1>we're getting into the sporting arena era of rock and roll,

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 1>like when bands would fill out stadiums and not every

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 1>place would be fitted to provide sound and lighting to

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 1>a big, theatrical rock and roll concert. That's not what

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:21.960
<v Speaker 1>they were intended for, and so it meant that you

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>had to repurpose the space to get the effect you wanted,

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 1>and that opened up the opportunity for engineers to create

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 1>new companies that specifically we're catering to touring music acts,

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 1>because it was such a hassle if you were on

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 1>tour and your production team had to sit there and say, okay,

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 1>well we've just arrived in Dallas, let's find out what

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 1>sort of equipment we can rent in order to get

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 1>the sound and the lights that we need. Then we're

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 1>going to move and go to Houston and we're going

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:52.360
<v Speaker 1>to do it all over again. Then we're going to

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 1>go to Baton Rouge, Louisiana. We're going to do it

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 1>all over again, which meant that the shows weren't consistent, right,

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 1>because you wouldn't have access to the same equipment, either

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 1>sound or lights, and so you couldn't create a specific

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 1>effect that kind of defined that tour. It gave rise

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 1>to companies that would essentially be hired to provide sound

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:15.959
<v Speaker 1>and lighting for a band as it went through its

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 1>whole tour. So the whole setup would travel from town

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 1>to town. It wouldn't just be you know, go there,

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>find what you can, cobble it together, and then break

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>it down and return it. You'd be bringing your gear

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 1>from one show to the next. And this was a huge,

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 1>huge undertaking still is I mean, it's enormous undertaking to

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>arrive in town ahead of the band, set everything up,

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 1>test it, make sure it all works, operate it during

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>the show, break it down after the show, and then

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>do it all over again. And because there was this

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 1>really healthy sense of competition in the rock and roll

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>space in particular, artists naturally wanted that their tour to

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 1>be more impressive than say that other band's tour, right, Like,

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>if you're a part of a big band, you want

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 1>your show to really be the one that defines the

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>rock and roll experience, not someone else's show. So you

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 1>also wanted to be bigger than your last tour. You

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 1>wanted everything to be built upon the past. So if

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 1>you're in Van Halen, you definitely want your show to

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 1>be bigger and more impressive than the one that Boston

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 1>put on the band Boston that is, I mean, that's

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 1>more than a feeling, so to speak, it is a need.

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 1>But to achieve these lofty goals of rocking the butts

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>off your audience with sounds and sites that get positively overwhelming,

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 1>it meant that the tech companies that were setting up

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 1>these systems had to keep pushing for new approaches. Right.

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 1>You had to solve for big problems like you weren't

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 1>in the same space night after night, So you couldn't

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>just set it and forget it, right. You couldn't just

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 1>create an experience for a show and then that's good.

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 1>You're done. Your work is you just have to operate

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 1>and now you're finished. So another thing was that relying

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 1>on standard theatrical lights meant that you started to reach

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 1>a physical limitation of the venues themselves, because the rigs

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 1>you would create sooner or later would get too heavy

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>to be supported from the venues ceiling. By rigs. That

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 1>means essentially the scaffolding that's holding up all those lights.

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 1>If you're loading up on more and more lights, as

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 1>your systems get far more complicated and you're trying to

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 1>get these incredible concert effects, eventually you reach the limit

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 1>of what the venue itself can physically support and you

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 1>have to start thinking smaller, or at least think lighter. Now,

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons why weight was such a challenge

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 1>had to do with color of lights. So with some

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 1>lighting systems for theatrical lighting, if you're lighting a theater

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 1>and you need to adjust the color or the temperature

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 1>of a light in order to get a specific effect,

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:50.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe you want the light to be like natural sunlight. Well,

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:54.720
<v Speaker 1>the lights put out by certain types of bulbs doesn't

0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>look like sunlight. So typically you would use a gel,

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 1>or maybe a collection of lights with different gels on them.

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>The gel refers to a thin sheet of colored material

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:08.320
<v Speaker 1>that you mount in front of a light, so the

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:11.360
<v Speaker 1>light passes through the gel and then hits the stage.

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 1>So back in the nineteen fifties, a lot of the

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 1>gels were made from acetate, but later the industry would

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 1>shift to other like polycarbonates with a higher melting point

0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>because the lights they were using were really freaking hot,

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 1>and even acetate would melt at the higher temperatures, and

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 1>even with materials that have very high tolerance for heat,

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 1>they would have a limited life span depending upon the

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:37.759
<v Speaker 1>shade of light they were showing. So some gels that

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 1>were like really heavily saturated, so like there's a lot

0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 1>of color in this gel, they often had shorter life spans.

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 1>They would you know, fade or melt after just a

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>couple of uses, or maybe even after a single show.

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Light with shorter wavelengths also had this issue, so like

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 1>your blues and purples, for example, and you would have

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:58.879
<v Speaker 1>to switch these out much more frequently, so you might

0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 1>just use a you know, a single gel for a

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:03.959
<v Speaker 1>single light. So that also meant that if you wanted

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 1>to use lots of different colors in your show, well

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 1>you had to have a dedicated lamp for each color

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>for that particular area of your lighting rig. So depending

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:16.359
<v Speaker 1>on the number of colors you wanted to represent, that

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:18.799
<v Speaker 1>multiplies the number of lights you need to use, right,

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 1>because you would have certain individual lights dedicated just for

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:24.880
<v Speaker 1>blue and then others for green and others for orange.

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.399
<v Speaker 1>And others for red and others for white. And that

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 1>adds tons of lights to your lighting rig, and that

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 1>means adding a lot of more weight. Now, with all

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>these additional lights, you also need increasingly complex control systems

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 1>as well as cooling systems. Like some of these lights

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:42.319
<v Speaker 1>get super dup or hot, and it can be a

0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:45.719
<v Speaker 1>fire hazard if you don't have ways of keeping things cool.

0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting some companies actually experimented with water cooling their lights,

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:52.799
<v Speaker 1>but engineers and electricians were like, this might not be

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the best idea to introduce water to electrical systems that

0:35:57.000 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 1>could potentially short out and then you could even you know,

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:03.239
<v Speaker 1>actually cause a fire as opposed to prevent one. Now,

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 1>one thing that would help with this development early on,

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 1>before the development of multicolor LEDs anyway, was the development

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 1>of dichroic filters. So these filters, they are lenses. Essentially,

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 1>they look like glass lenses, but they have these layers

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 1>inside them that ultimately allow certain wavelengths of light to

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 1>pass through and reflect other wavelengths of light. And that

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 1>means that you get different colors to come through depending

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:35.240
<v Speaker 1>upon the nature of the filter you're using. And these

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:38.720
<v Speaker 1>would not fade or melt like glass is far more

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:43.800
<v Speaker 1>resilient than polycarbonate is. So if you used a motorized

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:47.360
<v Speaker 1>system that could raise or lower these filters or combine

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 1>the filters, then you could actually change the color of

0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 1>lights using a single lamp. Like the lamp itself would be,

0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:55.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever the normal color would be. So let's

0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>just say it's giving out white light. But you could

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:01.280
<v Speaker 1>have these filters that pop up or or retract down

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 1>through a motorized system to go in front of the

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:08.479
<v Speaker 1>light and then change the color of light. And that

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:11.439
<v Speaker 1>means that you could have a single light represent many

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:14.560
<v Speaker 1>different colors and thus reduced the complexity and the weight

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:17.839
<v Speaker 1>of the system. Right, it doesn't You don't need all

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:21.479
<v Speaker 1>these dedicated lights for specific colors. Now. In addition to that,

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:24.680
<v Speaker 1>innovations and lamp size were helping a lot too. So

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:28.719
<v Speaker 1>there were like tungsten and halogen lights that led up

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:31.800
<v Speaker 1>to this, but then after that were much smaller lights

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 1>discharge lights for example, that could still put out a

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>pretty decent intensity of light, but they dramatically reduced the

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 1>size that you needed. So the lamps themselves got much smaller,

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:47.920
<v Speaker 1>and that would allow for more varied lighting effects as well,

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 1>and that was good for the folks who are shredding

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:54.440
<v Speaker 1>on the stage. I also, you know, if you've been

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 1>listening to tech stuff for a long time, there is

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 1>a word that we used to use a lot more

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>frequently on the show, but still plays a part in

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:06.800
<v Speaker 1>later episodes, which is convergence. Right, this convergence of different

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.959
<v Speaker 1>factors that because of all those different factors, we would

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 1>get this new thing. So in this case, there were

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of other advancements that were going on in

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 1>technology that were converging that would help create the modern

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:22.840
<v Speaker 1>amazing stage lighting system. For one thing, the development of

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 1>the transistor in the nineteen fifties led to solid state

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:31.319
<v Speaker 1>electronics and integrated circuits. I cannot express how huge that

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:35.359
<v Speaker 1>is or really how small ironically, because it would lead

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:40.279
<v Speaker 1>to miniaturization. Right, Suddenly, all this complex circuitry that used

0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:43.840
<v Speaker 1>to require physical components connected to physical wires and you

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 1>would just have like this mass of wires and cables

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:50.320
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. Now you could have solid state electronics takeover

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:54.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of that and reduce the amount of space

0:38:54.640 --> 0:39:00.359
<v Speaker 1>needed dramatically, and that would be a huge help these

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:04.800
<v Speaker 1>lighting systems. It also meant that computer technology was advancing rapidly.

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:09.279
<v Speaker 1>Once we got to miniaturization, the brakes were off. That's

0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:12.240
<v Speaker 1>when we start getting into things like Gordon Moore making

0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:15.359
<v Speaker 1>his observation that every two years or so you could

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 1>double the number of components on a square inch of

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 1>silicon chip, and thus effectively you could double your computer

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:25.440
<v Speaker 1>processing every two years or so. That's where we get

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Moore's law. Well, that same thing meant that the introduction

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:32.799
<v Speaker 1>of semiconductors and integrated circuits would open up huge new

0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:37.759
<v Speaker 1>opportunities in computerized systems in general, and control systems for

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<v Speaker 1>lights would be one of many ways we would see

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<v Speaker 1>that manifest Now, going back to Michael Mell, who I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about earlier, he says that the first computer light

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<v Speaker 1>board for stagecraft on Broadway. So remember Broadway lagged behind

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the theatrical industry, but the first one

0:39:56.800 --> 0:40:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that was a computerized system for controlling light was for

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<v Speaker 1>the debut production of A chorus Line, a musical that

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<v Speaker 1>I personally despise but of course line, which debuted in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy five. The system used was called an EDILS

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<v Speaker 1>eight EDI in this case stands for Electronics Diversified. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the company that made this, and it was created

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:25.920
<v Speaker 1>by a guy named Gordon Pearlman in North Carolina, and

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 1>it consisted of a computer, a control board, and a

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:32.840
<v Speaker 1>terminal display and the whole thing was like the size

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<v Speaker 1>of a desk. It had one hundred channels and Melsa's

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 1>ninety six of them were used for a chorus line.

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<v Speaker 1>And it cost a cool one hundred thousand dollars back

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:43.800
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy five. If we adjust that for inflation,

0:40:43.880 --> 0:40:46.359
<v Speaker 1>it means that it would set you back about six

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars today, So very expensive system for controlling

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<v Speaker 1>your lights. The EDILS eight incorporated a different computer that

0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 1>was created by the Digital Equipment Company or dec Deck,

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 1>and it was the DP eight mini computer. So the

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<v Speaker 1>LS eight was a twelve bit system that probably sounds

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<v Speaker 1>odd to a lot of y'all out there, because often

0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:13.399
<v Speaker 1>we talk about systems that are eight bit or sixteen bit,

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 1>or a thirty two bit or sixty four bit, and

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:18.919
<v Speaker 1>you see how that pattern goes right eight eight times

0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:21.280
<v Speaker 1>to his sixteen sixteen times to his thirty two, thirty

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:24.360
<v Speaker 1>two times to his sixty four, et cetera. But this

0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:26.399
<v Speaker 1>was a twelve bit system and it was made back

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:29.360
<v Speaker 1>in the days before we gravitated toward the whole eight sixteen,

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 1>thirty two, et cetera approach. It also had sixteen whole

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:37.360
<v Speaker 1>kilobytes of memory. That's very very little memory, being very

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 1>facetious when I say sixteen whole kilobytes, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>sufficient to store the lighting cues for a show. And

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:47.319
<v Speaker 1>the memory was also non volatile. That's important. It meant

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<v Speaker 1>that when you turn the system off and then you

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:53.520
<v Speaker 1>turn it back on again, the preset cues that you

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 1>had stored in its memory would still be there. They

0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:59.400
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be wiped clean. And that's good because apparently it

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 1>took quite some time to get the system up and running.

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:05.000
<v Speaker 1>For programming, there was a thirty two instruction boot sequence

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:07.359
<v Speaker 1>for the system, and you would have to load the

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 1>operating system in. You couldn't. It didn't just automatically go

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 1>into boot right. You had to feed the operating system

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:19.440
<v Speaker 1>into this this system, and that was on paper tape.

0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 1>So you would feed paper tape with the operating system

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:25.440
<v Speaker 1>into this machine and then it would be ready to go.

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:27.959
<v Speaker 1>And that whole process would take like half an hour.

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 1>So if you think your boot up time is slow

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:33.840
<v Speaker 1>at least you weren't using the EDILS eight, but the

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 1>system could store all of the course line's lighting cues.

0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:40.480
<v Speaker 1>The actual operation of the show was not automatic, however,

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 1>It's not like the computer was watching and listening to

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:45.640
<v Speaker 1>the show and then switching lighting at the right time.

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:48.360
<v Speaker 1>So instead you would have a human operator who would

0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:51.680
<v Speaker 1>mann the console and when appropriate, would initiate the next

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:57.280
<v Speaker 1>lighting cue using cross faders and other actual manual controls,

0:42:57.440 --> 0:42:59.920
<v Speaker 1>but all the information for those cues would be in

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 1>the system. So essentially, the operator saying all right, I'm

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:08.439
<v Speaker 1>going to Q number fifty six and the lights would

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:11.359
<v Speaker 1>all come on for Q fifty six. All the lights

0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:13.640
<v Speaker 1>that are not involved in Q fifty six would come down,

0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 1>and the operator wouldn't have to manually adjust all these things.

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:21.520
<v Speaker 1>They would just go from Q to Q, which still

0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 1>is a big job. It's not I don't mean to

0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:26.320
<v Speaker 1>say that it was easy, but it was definitely easier

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 1>than manually controlling everything live every single night. So it's

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:34.319
<v Speaker 1>still pretty cool that that came out as early as

0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:37.719
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy five, even though again Broadway was lagging. So

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:40.560
<v Speaker 1>it was this convergence of technologies and trends in technology

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:43.279
<v Speaker 1>that would allow for the spectacle of moving lights and

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:46.759
<v Speaker 1>live shows. And with all that tech, you still had artistry, right,

0:43:46.840 --> 0:43:49.279
<v Speaker 1>You still had a designer would have to determine what

0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:52.360
<v Speaker 1>lighting effects the show would need and for what purpose,

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and how to highlight things that were going on on stage.

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:58.239
<v Speaker 1>They would have to work with engineers to achieve those

0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 1>effects and then save the settings presets, and the system

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 1>would store these presets and then handle those transitions from

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:08.239
<v Speaker 1>one set to the next. Allegedly it was during a

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:11.480
<v Speaker 1>demonstration with a company called Vera Light, which came out

0:44:11.480 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 1>of a company called Showco where you know, they specialized

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 1>in doing these lighting rigs for rock and roll shows.

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:21.360
<v Speaker 1>And supposedly it was during a demonstration where it was

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 1>purely by accident, where they showed a transition where all

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:27.200
<v Speaker 1>the lights were still on, because typically you would bring

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:30.399
<v Speaker 1>the lights down, go to a transition where the lights

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:32.800
<v Speaker 1>would reposition, and then bring the lights back up again

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:35.400
<v Speaker 1>and so then you would get your new effect, but

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:38.640
<v Speaker 1>instead the lights were on the whole time when they positioned.

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:41.719
<v Speaker 1>You reposition from one set to the next, and that

0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:45.440
<v Speaker 1>effect blew everyone away. They were like, oh my gosh,

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 1>all the lights are still on while they sweep across

0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:50.919
<v Speaker 1>the stage in this dramatic fashion, and so reportedly something

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 1>that happened by accident would end up becoming like a

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:58.920
<v Speaker 1>best practice's mainstay for concerts moving forward, which is, you know,

0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:00.839
<v Speaker 1>when we get up to a like what I saw

0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 1>over this past weekend, as various lights were sweeping across

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:07.879
<v Speaker 1>the band and the crowd. Now this show's growing long,

0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I got a ton of other things I could talk about, Like, obviously,

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 1>we could talk about the development of LEDs, because that

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:18.400
<v Speaker 1>would make a huge difference in both size and color

0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 1>for stage lights. We could talk about mirror lights. Mirror

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:26.640
<v Speaker 1>lights use a mirror to reflect light from a lamp

0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 1>onto a stage. Big advantage of mirror lights is that

0:45:29.840 --> 0:45:32.400
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to move the whole lamp to redirect

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:34.279
<v Speaker 1>the light. You just have to move the mirror, so

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 1>the mirror can be much smaller than the lamp is,

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:39.400
<v Speaker 1>which also means you can move it faster, so you

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:43.280
<v Speaker 1>can get these really quick transitions where a light moves

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 1>from one queue to the next super fast, and it

0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:49.040
<v Speaker 1>can be a really dramatic effect for the audience. Lots

0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:52.080
<v Speaker 1>of these things would play in but I probably would

0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:54.440
<v Speaker 1>need to do a second episode to really get into it.

0:45:54.800 --> 0:45:58.800
<v Speaker 1>So rather than rattling on about lighting and lighting control

0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:03.000
<v Speaker 1>systems for another, you know, forty minutes, let's wrap this

0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:05.799
<v Speaker 1>one up. Maybe we'll revisit and start talking about some

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:09.320
<v Speaker 1>of these specific technologies in greater detail. But I'm worried

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:13.239
<v Speaker 1>about narrow casting beyond what I'm already doing, so we're

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:16.000
<v Speaker 1>going to wrap this up. I hope you're all well.

0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 1>If you have the opportunity to go and see a

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:21.239
<v Speaker 1>rock and roll show, you should take it. Like you know,

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:25.560
<v Speaker 1>they're fun and seeing the technical display I think is

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:28.760
<v Speaker 1>really fascinating. You know, even if you're not losing yourself

0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:31.640
<v Speaker 1>in the moment with the music and the crowd and everything.

0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:35.800
<v Speaker 1>The technical aspects are really phenomenal at shows these days,

0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:37.800
<v Speaker 1>at least if you're going to one that's like a

0:46:37.880 --> 0:46:41.960
<v Speaker 1>medium or larger sized venue, check them out. It's really

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:46.560
<v Speaker 1>interesting way to see how technology can marry with artistry

0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:50.200
<v Speaker 1>to create effects. I think that that's just a fascinating thing.

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