Speaker 1: I won't let my body outly outweigh everything that I'm
Speaker 1: made do. Won't spend my life trying to change. I'm
Speaker 1: learning to love who I am. I get I'm strong,
Speaker 1: I feel free, I know who every part of me
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. And then will always out wait if you
Speaker 1: feel it with your eyes. And there she's love to
Speaker 1: the boom. There, let's say good day and did you
Speaker 1: and die out? Happy Saturday? Outweigh fam Amy here and
Speaker 1: I'm sitting across from my co host Lisa. Hello, everybody.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be back with you all. It's
Speaker 1: been a minute. Yeah, it's been a while since Lisa
Speaker 1: and I've done an episode together. And I'm excited for
Speaker 1: this chat because it's a little bit different than something
Speaker 1: Lisa and I have ever discussed before, and I want
Speaker 1: to share with her something I noticed my brain doing
Speaker 1: because I feel like I'm just more in touch with
Speaker 1: a lot of my thoughts lately, now that I actually
Speaker 1: have that free space in my brain, my eating disorder
Speaker 1: is no longer taking up or occupying my brain rent
Speaker 1: free like I guess that's what the kids say. So
Speaker 1: I am just so aware of so much more and
Speaker 1: on the food side of things. Have been very excited
Speaker 1: to break this down with Lisa. I've touched on it
Speaker 1: a little bit with licensed therapist cat Defata, who's come
Speaker 1: on the podcast a couple of times, and she joins
Speaker 1: me on four Things with Amy Brown. But at least
Speaker 1: I just want your take on it because and it's
Speaker 1: not to be like, oh hey, look, yeah, look where
Speaker 1: I am. But it's more of like, well, this is
Speaker 1: an exciting thing that we all have to look forward
Speaker 1: to once we put in the work and we get
Speaker 1: to the other side. And I was listening to a
Speaker 1: book Limitless, and it was talking about different brain foods
Speaker 1: and foods that your brain will thrive off of if
Speaker 1: you consume them. And I started to make a mental
Speaker 1: list and I was so excited. Next was at the
Speaker 1: grocery store I bought while not spread. I bought blueberries
Speaker 1: and avocados and cauliflower like I was putting things in
Speaker 1: my cart intentionally. Which side note here total side note.
Speaker 1: But I saw a post on Instagram of the image
Speaker 1: of a brain like cut open and then cauliflower cut open?
Speaker 1: Did you post that? I didn't post it, but they
Speaker 1: looked the same. Was that the idea, yes, and then
Speaker 1: it was just this whole thing about how fascinating it is,
Speaker 1: and in cauliflower something that yes, it is good for
Speaker 1: the brain, and it just took me back to my
Speaker 1: disordered days when I ate all these foods but for
Speaker 1: the wrong reason. I saw them on a list of oh,
Speaker 1: these are good for the brain, but I used it
Speaker 1: as an excuse to only eat those foods and not
Speaker 1: give myself any joy anywhere else. So then it turned
Speaker 1: into this restriction thing. Then I went on to do
Speaker 1: some sort of some tests that was going to tell
Speaker 1: me certain foods that caused my particular body inflammation, and
Speaker 1: instead of a actually seeing how I felt after I
Speaker 1: physically ate the food, I took those test results as
Speaker 1: if they were you know, the Bible, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is the truth, the way the light. And I
Speaker 1: can never have a blueberry again because blueberry causes my
Speaker 1: body inflammation. So then I cut out blueberries. So then
Speaker 1: I took away that brain food. But I was like, well,
Speaker 1: but my body is not allergic to or sensitive to
Speaker 1: I say sensitive in air quotes cash shows. Well, then
Speaker 1: I just ended up eating cash shows all day long,
Speaker 1: and it was this whole disordered, unhealthy space with me
Speaker 1: really trying to do good but my with by my body.
Speaker 1: But it it came from not the right place. And
Speaker 1: so my whole point in saying this is is that
Speaker 1: now I notice I'm actually able to enjoy doing something
Speaker 1: like that, doing good for my body and bringing in
Speaker 1: the nutritious foods for my brain for example. I mean
Speaker 1: there's all other kinds of foods that we could talk about,
Speaker 1: for like liver or kidney, all the things. But the
Speaker 1: exciting part was being at the store buying these brain
Speaker 1: foods and knowing that I genuinely was going to get
Speaker 1: to enjoy them, but without the fear of eating you know,
Speaker 1: too much of them all day long, or restricting them
Speaker 1: just in case they might cause inflammation, or using them
Speaker 1: as some sort of an excuse not to eat other
Speaker 1: food that maybe someone had prepared or eat out at
Speaker 1: a restaurant or socialized with friends because it didn't fit
Speaker 1: into my brain food list. Like there was just so
Speaker 1: much freedom, and I just got to say, like, it's
Speaker 1: just been exciting, and I love going into my fridge
Speaker 1: and popping a few blueberries in my mouth and having
Speaker 1: a genuine little conversation with myself of like boop brain
Speaker 1: food and it's exciting. It's so exciting, and I think,
Speaker 1: you know, eating disorder and disordered eating recovery is so
Speaker 1: different than a lot of different types of recovery where
Speaker 1: people have to quote unquote put in the work. You know,
Speaker 1: when we talk about drug as an alcohol, you're you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully not revisiting those substances again. But when it comes
Speaker 1: to eating disordered or disordered eating recovery, we're going to
Speaker 1: eat again. And so it's going to be very normal
Speaker 1: that your relationship to the substancing quote that you were
Speaker 1: interacting with negatively before can then be positive. And it
Speaker 1: definitely takes a journey, right, Like the beginning of recovery
Speaker 1: is bumpy. You're doing a lot of unlearning. You're pushing
Speaker 1: yourselves to do things that scare you, whether that's eating
Speaker 1: the blueberries because oh my gosh, what are they going
Speaker 1: to do for my body? Because I was told that
Speaker 1: they you know, cause inflammation or or eating something you know,
Speaker 1: not blueberries but oreos or whatever. You know, you're more
Speaker 1: obvious kind of fear food, dairy grains, whatever it is
Speaker 1: that like you talked up to being not good for you,
Speaker 1: But I a percent believe that nutrition and what we
Speaker 1: eat and how we eat it really our relationship to
Speaker 1: it can be a form of self care. And I
Speaker 1: think it's hard to understand unless you've kind of been
Speaker 1: on both sides of the coin, where you previously have
Speaker 1: been to the grocery store and you scanned every label
Speaker 1: and if it had this amount of sugar, you didn't
Speaker 1: have it, or if had this amount of calories or carbs,
Speaker 1: you didn't eat it. Versus now when you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: blueberryes are good for my brain, walnuts are good for
Speaker 1: my brain, Cauliflower is good for my brain. There is
Speaker 1: an energetic difference that you are vibrating from. And I
Speaker 1: know this might feel like really maybe abstract for our listeners,
Speaker 1: but try and think what it feels like when you
Speaker 1: are eating or deciding what to eat from a fearful place,
Speaker 1: when you're trying to use control versus abundance and taking
Speaker 1: care of yourself. Like, there's a distinct difference in the
Speaker 1: way that we feel when making those choices, which I
Speaker 1: think can kind of be the obvious point of Am
Speaker 1: I doing this in a way that's disordered under the
Speaker 1: guise of healthy or is this actually good? And healthy
Speaker 1: for me, right. And it's a fine line because we're
Speaker 1: doing the same things. We're still eating cauliflower, right, But
Speaker 1: are we doing it from an expansive, abundant mindset where
Speaker 1: we want to nourish our bodies, take good care of them,
Speaker 1: think about our brains in your case, or are we
Speaker 1: doing them from this place of control that we're like
Speaker 1: not even aware of. And it's a fine line, especially
Speaker 1: as we make our way out of a place where
Speaker 1: we've been super controlling. But it's really a fun opportunity,
Speaker 1: once you've made it through the bumpier parts of the journey,
Speaker 1: to invite these foods back into your life in a
Speaker 1: completely different mindset. And I feel like that's kind of
Speaker 1: what you're experiencing, Amy, Yes, and yeah, you're right, it's
Speaker 1: no longer from a place of fear and control. I
Speaker 1: have been able to surrender all of that, and I'm
Speaker 1: able to truly enjoy things. You know. I was waiting
Speaker 1: for the Oreo mentioned. I thought, I wonder if Lisa
Speaker 1: and I can get through an episode where neither one
Speaker 1: of us brings up the infamous oreo. So, because if
Speaker 1: you were going to do it, I is going to
Speaker 1: do it. But I just want to offer that that
Speaker 1: encouragement and knowing that now I can take care of
Speaker 1: my brain or other organs and different things. I mean,
Speaker 1: even when it comes to like drinking water. Some people
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't think that that could be part of a
Speaker 1: disordered behavior, but it's it was for me, and it's water.
Speaker 1: But I was so stuck in this control space that like,
Speaker 1: I would freak out if I didn't have every drop
Speaker 1: of water that I was supposed to have that day.
Speaker 1: I feel like a big part of this, which might
Speaker 1: be missed by people who don't understand, is that eating
Speaker 1: disorder recovery or disordered eating recovery isn't just about eating
Speaker 1: the food that you didn't used to eat. Food freedom
Speaker 1: isn't just about the food. If you're truly going through
Speaker 1: this journey of making peace with your body, you're likely
Speaker 1: and hopefully and if not hopefully, going to start after
Speaker 1: I bring this up, really getting to know your self
Speaker 1: talk what does that voice in your head sound like?
Speaker 1: What does it feel like? And when you become really
Speaker 1: attuned to that voice, you become much more able to
Speaker 1: catch when it's deviating into an old place that doesn't
Speaker 1: serve you. You are aware when you're self berating, which
Speaker 1: may in the past just be your norm. And there's
Speaker 1: so much inner work that goes through a recovery beyond
Speaker 1: just the food freedom, being able to eat the oreo,
Speaker 1: the ice cream, the pasta, you know, whatever those foods
Speaker 1: are that are really like the foods that you see
Speaker 1: people eating in their recovery and enjoying are is like
Speaker 1: the tip of the iceberg. But what you don't see
Speaker 1: beneath the water is all of that inner work that
Speaker 1: they've done, working on their self talk, really getting to
Speaker 1: know it, implementing compassion, both self compassion and compassion for others,
Speaker 1: learning how to be flexible in situations that otherwise you know,
Speaker 1: would have caused inner turmoil, binging, or restricting. There's so
Speaker 1: much beneath that. And I another big one that you know,
Speaker 1: kind of you've semi brought up here is value based
Speaker 1: living amy Like, you want to take care of your brain.
Speaker 1: Why do you want to take care of your brain?
Speaker 1: Why do you want to take care of your brain? Well,
Speaker 1: because I know that it's it's important. I want to
Speaker 1: have a longevity, I want to have relationships. I want
Speaker 1: to make sure that as I age, I take care
Speaker 1: of something as precious as my brain. Now, some stuff
Speaker 1: genetically might be out of my control, but this is
Speaker 1: a part where in a healthy way I say that control.
Speaker 1: With that context, I can try to at least do
Speaker 1: my best to make sure that I'm giving it what
Speaker 1: it needs. And it's it's so exciting to kind of
Speaker 1: go through the life journey and get that opportunity, I
Speaker 1: know for me having just had a baby, and I
Speaker 1: mean there's so much labor that goes into not obviously
Speaker 1: labor labor, but physical labor of holding a baby, changing baby,
Speaker 1: picking a baby up. Now she's crawling, I'm chasing her.
Speaker 1: And one of the things that I'm really passionate about
Speaker 1: is taking good care of my joints. And for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: I know I'm like a young person, but my joints
Speaker 1: in my body really hurt if I'm not actively stretching, moving, mobilizing,
Speaker 1: getting fresh oxygen and blood to those areas. So movement
Speaker 1: for me in the last few months has also really
Speaker 1: shifted from a place of longevity. I want to be
Speaker 1: able to pick up my baby and feel good and
Speaker 1: be able to do this for a lifetime. As our
Speaker 1: bodies only age and get more difficult. So you know,
Speaker 1: there's so many situations I feel like where our listeners
Speaker 1: can hopefully start to think about how things that previously
Speaker 1: fell into diet culture for them may exist in their
Speaker 1: recovery down the line or maybe right now, depending on
Speaker 1: where you are. That's kind of the hard part of
Speaker 1: this podcast is we don't know where you are in
Speaker 1: this exact moment. But knowing that that we can use
Speaker 1: things like eating you know, blueberries and nuts and cashews
Speaker 1: and move our bodies and do all these things that
Speaker 1: we previously used to abuse in a way that is
Speaker 1: truly a form of self care. And you know, you
Speaker 1: just mentioned a movement and that makes me think of
Speaker 1: my water comment a minute ago and movement. Those were
Speaker 1: things where it was like me controlling every ounce of
Speaker 1: water that went in my body and every step I
Speaker 1: took and monitoring it and pacing my kitchen while I'm
Speaker 1: chugging my water before I go to bed, because I
Speaker 1: had this rule of what I had to get done
Speaker 1: every single day. And while now I can approach it
Speaker 1: from a place of like, oh, yes, movement is going
Speaker 1: to be good today, but what does that look like? Like?
Speaker 1: I know, move my body needs movement but is it
Speaker 1: like achieving a certain amount of steps every single day
Speaker 1: so that I can sleep easy at night, which I
Speaker 1: wasn't sleeping easy, by the way, Like I I wasn't
Speaker 1: I was already stressed about the next day, how I
Speaker 1: was going to get all the water in, how I
Speaker 1: was gonna not eat this and only eat that and
Speaker 1: enter everything in. And so my hope is that this
Speaker 1: type of conversation will excite people about the possibilities that
Speaker 1: they're going to have um future movement, things with what
Speaker 1: family and friends, future trips to the grocery store, all
Speaker 1: the different things that come along with not being attached
Speaker 1: to all these rules and guidelines and the pressure of that.
Speaker 1: And Lisa, you mentioned self compassion, and I think that's
Speaker 1: what a lot of what I have for myself now
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, if I didn't necessarily do that, that's okay,
Speaker 1: and maybe we'll try tomorrow. Compassion for others. I interviewed
Speaker 1: Shaun and Equist on my podcast this week, Four Things podcast,
Speaker 1: and there are four pillars that she mentioned in her
Speaker 1: latest book, and they are compassion, self compassion, curiosity, and courage.
Speaker 1: And I'm not applying them here in the same way
Speaker 1: that she did in her latest book. But I just
Speaker 1: would say it takes a lot of courage to recognize
Speaker 1: where you are and then want to make the change
Speaker 1: and try to talk to someone about it. I think
Speaker 1: the curiosity piece, when I think of this conversation, comes
Speaker 1: in with like just being curious of what might your
Speaker 1: life look like if you do try to let go
Speaker 1: of some of these disordered behaviors. And I even take
Speaker 1: it to where I am now. I get curious at
Speaker 1: the grocery store, like, oh, I wonder what this food
Speaker 1: tastes like, or I wonder what this might be like
Speaker 1: if I were to add this to my routine in
Speaker 1: some way, shape or form, or what if I tried
Speaker 1: this new form of exercise whatever it is or movement
Speaker 1: the curiosity piece. And then you know, Lisa, you already
Speaker 1: mentioned the compassion and self compassion. So I just thought
Speaker 1: those four things were kind of could be fun to
Speaker 1: throw into this conversation. Yeah, And I think, actually that
Speaker 1: might be a good little challenge to throw in here.
Speaker 1: And it's a fun activity that I like to do
Speaker 1: from time to time, too, is going to the grocery store.
Speaker 1: And of course you have your list of your basics
Speaker 1: of things that you that you need, and then allow
Speaker 1: your eyes to kind of wander and see what can
Speaker 1: Whuch is your attention. Maybe it's something new that you've
Speaker 1: never had before that you want to try, Maybe it's
Speaker 1: something that you haven't had in years, you know, But
Speaker 1: allow yourself to wonder, bring that curiosity in and then
Speaker 1: invite that into your home and your meals to really
Speaker 1: see what your experiences. And you never know if you're
Speaker 1: gonna like it or not like it. But the key
Speaker 1: here is to not let the nutrition label deter you
Speaker 1: from having whatever that is if there's a nutrition label
Speaker 1: on it. So that's a nice little challenge piece to
Speaker 1: go for. And the other thing I kind of just
Speaker 1: want to bring up amy, which I found really interesting
Speaker 1: even just as I reflect back on the last seven
Speaker 1: months of becoming a mom and the big life shift
Speaker 1: that I've gone through, is that there are seasons of
Speaker 1: life where your relationship to food is going to change
Speaker 1: and that's okay. And I think knowing that might help
Speaker 1: you again ease up on that self talk where you're
Speaker 1: down on yourself. There was a period in the last
Speaker 1: seven months, a long period aid where I mean I
Speaker 1: was eating anything in the fridge that was three or
Speaker 1: four or five days old, you know, but it was
Speaker 1: already pre made. Like, there have been so many times
Speaker 1: I've been so thoughtless, or I've eaten just can't soup
Speaker 1: for dinner because I just can't think of another meal,
Speaker 1: or have relied on frozen foods. And then there have
Speaker 1: been other moments where I'm like, a form of self
Speaker 1: care today is actually going to be putting love into
Speaker 1: a meal, spending time chopping the vegetables, connecting with the food,
Speaker 1: you know, really taking you know, a minute to think
Speaker 1: about the food. And neither of those things are right
Speaker 1: or wrong, the thoughtless the more thoughtful, but rather a
Speaker 1: reflection of the best that I could do in that
Speaker 1: situation given how I felt exhaustion wise and my mental capacity.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of a short period of time that
Speaker 1: I've gone through so much change where I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't really care what I eat too, you know, I
Speaker 1: really care what I eat. But we're going to go
Speaker 1: through those those seasons of life where emphasis is on
Speaker 1: nutrition and wholesome food and connecting with our food and
Speaker 1: cooking a lot. For me. In the summer time, I
Speaker 1: usually wake up a little bit more to that, but
Speaker 1: I don't mean seasons literally like that. But there are
Speaker 1: also times and in long periods of time where food
Speaker 1: is just kind of on the back burner for me,
Speaker 1: and it's cool to allow that to happen without the
Speaker 1: fear of the judgment to seep in and kind of
Speaker 1: robbed me from actually being present, because food can kind
Speaker 1: of be two things. Food can just be food where
Speaker 1: it just kind of gets us through the day, or
Speaker 1: it can be a powerful way to connect to yourself
Speaker 1: in that moment more deeply. And I would just say too,
Speaker 1: especially you're talking about you being a new mom, if
Speaker 1: we have other moms listening, I mean, I have a
Speaker 1: fourteen year old and a ten year old eleven gosh,
Speaker 1: he's eleven, he's actually almost gonna be twelve, and my
Speaker 1: fourteenyear old is about to be fifteen. So anyway, we're
Speaker 1: in the thick of it with school and activities, and
Speaker 1: there's like some days are just busy, and I'm able
Speaker 1: to be aware of that and know that just because
Speaker 1: maybe one week we're not having certain meals that I
Speaker 1: otherwise would have fed them or depending on what I have,
Speaker 1: no judgment, like, I am free of that and when
Speaker 1: I first became a mom, um we first adopted them,
Speaker 1: I was not that way. It actually overwhelmed and stressed
Speaker 1: me out, and I didn't know what I was in
Speaker 1: to feedom how it's going to feed them. And then
Speaker 1: I felt like a failure if they ate a piece
Speaker 1: of candy or something. And then now I'm a completely
Speaker 1: different type of mom and I don't have that that
Speaker 1: negative self talk if we're not eating the dinner that
Speaker 1: I had planned for us to have and we just
Speaker 1: end up doing cereal, which the kids love, by the way,
Speaker 1: and that brings them and me a lot of joy
Speaker 1: those nights where it's like, all right, everybody just go
Speaker 1: to the pantry, pick out something to eat, like we're good,
Speaker 1: we're going to survive. But I don't judge myself or
Speaker 1: call myself a bad mom exactly. Um. And it's just
Speaker 1: nice to kind of be able to be flexible like that.
Speaker 1: And at the same time, it's also nice to be
Speaker 1: able to cook fresh cookies with your kids, right, Like,
Speaker 1: sometimes the easy and the and the more difficult or
Speaker 1: skillful can provide the same amount of connection if it's
Speaker 1: truly based in what you all need. Yeah, and you're
Speaker 1: the dietitian here, so the registered the r D. So
Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to lean into you for what just
Speaker 1: something just popped in my head that I kind of
Speaker 1: want to do. When you talked about cooking food and
Speaker 1: thinking about it, like I pictured myself whatever reason when
Speaker 1: you were saying that, like chopping a bell pepper and
Speaker 1: like slicing it perfectly and looking at how beautiful a
Speaker 1: little bell pepper is. That's something else that I got
Speaker 1: from my chat with Shawn an Equist was she wants
Speaker 1: to find delight in the small things, and she she
Speaker 1: wants that low hanging joy and not that it's not
Speaker 1: genuine or real, she just wants to be able to
Speaker 1: find it in the the easy places. And so just
Speaker 1: now as you were talking, Lisa, I was picturing myself
Speaker 1: cutting a beautiful, vibrant red bell pepper. But now what
Speaker 1: I'm excited to do is to maybe look up, like
Speaker 1: what are the vitamins in a bell pepper? What is
Speaker 1: the spell pepper doing for me? And when I am
Speaker 1: cutting it kind of like these brain foods, like I
Speaker 1: actually have more excitement to learn and connect with the
Speaker 1: food as cheesy as that sal But now I am
Speaker 1: I if I am cooking, I might do a little
Speaker 1: research before I cook and be like, Okay, if I'm
Speaker 1: having mushrooms, what is this doing for me and my body?
Speaker 1: And then taking that in when I'm cooking it like, oh,
Speaker 1: within this up for my bladder, Like I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is helping out, but is that an okay
Speaker 1: exercise for me to do? I think for sure? And
Speaker 1: again it's all about like where are you truly coming from?
Speaker 1: And it sounds like you're coming from a good place.
Speaker 1: But I think this will maybe be a separate conversation.
Speaker 1: But I truly believe that nature is medicine. Food is medicine.
Speaker 1: But caveat that doesn't mean that if you're eating something
Speaker 1: that's not you know, from nature or a bell pepper right,
Speaker 1: that it's poison. And there's a lot of anti diet
Speaker 1: culture talk that really dispel that idea that food is
Speaker 1: medicine because it kind of feeds into that other side
Speaker 1: to say, Okay, well, if you're eating processed food or whatever,
Speaker 1: that it's not medicine. But it's not how I see
Speaker 1: it at all. I think food can be medicine, and
Speaker 1: we don't have to vilify food that's not medicinal. But
Speaker 1: I think we have to realize that we are humans
Speaker 1: living in nature and you know, God, if you believe
Speaker 1: in God or whoever didn't put us here to open
Speaker 1: CVS is so that we have medicine. Obviously we have
Speaker 1: to rely on medicine and pharmacology, but the foods that
Speaker 1: we eat do have the power to protect us, to
Speaker 1: heal us in some cases, and they do offer medicinal
Speaker 1: benefits if you will, um, in the sense of that's
Speaker 1: what just what nutrition is eating foods that have antioxidants
Speaker 1: and beta carotenes and you know, protective things to protect
Speaker 1: our bodies. Um. And that's that's kind of a fun
Speaker 1: place to lean into food, whereas we've been robbed of
Speaker 1: that because we just want to focus on calories or
Speaker 1: carbohydrates or grims of sugar, where you know, so many
Speaker 1: foods from nature are high in calories, are high in carbohydrates,
Speaker 1: are high in sugar because our bodies need those in
Speaker 1: combination with all the other nutritional benefits that they have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in combination is key there. Um. Well, thank you for
Speaker 1: this chat to day, Lisa, and just you know, sharing
Speaker 1: in my excitement with where I am with it. And
Speaker 1: then offering this perspective and that hope, because again, like
Speaker 1: you said, we have no idea where every single listener
Speaker 1: is on this journey, and that's what's hard for us
Speaker 1: to navigate here behind a microphone and not not seeing
Speaker 1: each and every one of you face to face as
Speaker 1: we're talking, or being able to answer your questions, or
Speaker 1: not in your home knowing what the environment is like
Speaker 1: for you or in your brain. I guess I should say. So,
Speaker 1: if you want to reach out, or you have a
Speaker 1: thought or something you would like for us to talk
Speaker 1: about or break down, you can email us hello at
Speaker 1: Outweigh podcast dot com and we will get that. And
Speaker 1: in the meantime, you can catch Lisa on Instagram choose
Speaker 1: at Lisa hame h a y I am, And then
Speaker 1: you can also check out Lisa's other podcast called The
Speaker 1: Truth fus Life, which has a new episode every Friday.
Speaker 1: And I know that you're pouring so much into that podcast, Lisa,
Speaker 1: and I'm so proud of you. Thank you. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: been actually going incredible lately, and every guest that comes
Speaker 1: on is just like blowing all of our minds and
Speaker 1: really just changing my life one episode at a time.
Speaker 1: So thanks for shouting out the truthist life. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you recently had on a guest over there which I
Speaker 1: have listened full transparency, I only got through half of it,
Speaker 1: but it's in my queue to finish the rest. And
Speaker 1: she's actually going to be a guest on Outweigh. She is.
Speaker 1: It's um Kathleen Cameron, who had made a fifteen million
Speaker 1: dollars in the past two years. She was a nurse prior,
Speaker 1: and obviously she's gone through a huge life transformation, but
Speaker 1: most interestingly, she really credits her body acceptance to this
Speaker 1: huge financial and professional change in her life. So she's
Speaker 1: going to share with us what happened when she finally
Speaker 1: accepted her body size and how she did it. Awesome.
Speaker 1: I can't wait for that one. And that'll be next Saturday.
Speaker 1: So a new Outweigh episode goes up every Saturday. If
Speaker 1: you've got some extra time you're walking around or you're
Speaker 1: running air and so you've got to drive, then load
Speaker 1: up some other episodes and hopefully it'll be some encouragement
Speaker 1: to you when when you need it most. Because I
Speaker 1: know when I was in the thick of it, I
Speaker 1: wish I had had something to listen to. But podcast
Speaker 1: just weren't really around. And gosh, my eating disorders started
Speaker 1: when I was like fourteen, so we didn't have many
Speaker 1: materials back then that I'm just thankful for this community
Speaker 1: and I know there's a lot of other amazing resources
Speaker 1: out there. And and Lisa, I tell her all the time,
Speaker 1: like she's a huge, huge piece to my recovery puzzle,
Speaker 1: if you want to call it that. So definitely be
Speaker 1: following her on Instagram, which she is a new mom,
Speaker 1: like she mentioned, so lots of baby content, but that
Speaker 1: is okay because you have the most beautiful baby in
Speaker 1: the world. Thank you so much and we'll see you
Speaker 1: all next week. I