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We appreciate 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 4: it as we take you all the way up until 17 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 4: nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific, talking all sorts 18 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 4: of NFL, all sorts of fun stuff out there about 19 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 4: the National Football League. We started last hour talking about 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 4: Jerry Jones doing what Jerry Jones does. He gets to 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 4: Oxnard for training camp and lets it fly talking about 22 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 4: deals and the cautionary tales of handing out deals, and 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 4: then you go from that over to the AFC, where 24 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 4: you've got the Cincinnati Bengals, who were speaking yesterday at 25 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 4: the team's annual luncheon, and Bengals team president Mike Brown 26 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 4: decided to discuss the contract situation with Shamar Stewart, their 27 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 4: first round pick who was still not signed, and tried 28 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 4: to explain the reasoning behind that decision yesterday. 29 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 5: This one is surprising. I hesitate to get into the detail, 30 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 5: but basically it turns on whether out ears are guaranteed 31 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 5: if he gets involved in conduct detrimental to football. Well, 32 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 5: what does that mean? Detrimental to football? In recent years 33 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 5: has been violence to women. That's about the one that 34 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 5: comes to my mind. There are others, probably, but that's 35 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 5: the one that I think. If we get a player 36 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 5: who gets involved in something like that or does something 37 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 5: that is just unacceptable, guess what. 38 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 4: I don't want to pay him. 39 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: I really don't. If he's sitting in. 40 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 5: Jail, I don't think I ought to be paying him. 41 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 5: And so we say that if he got involved in 42 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 5: conduct detrimental, we'd have the right to terminate the guaranteed 43 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 5: part for the back years. His agent says, oh, no, 44 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 5: you can terminate the guaranteed part only for the remaining 45 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 5: part of the year in which the event occurs. Oddly, 46 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 5: something like this has never occurred with us. I don't 47 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 5: think it's going to occur. So we're sitting here arguing 48 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 5: over something that I think is pretty remote. And I 49 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 5: asked myself sometimes why the hell we're doing it? But 50 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 5: we are, and he's doing it too, and at some 51 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 5: point we got to put this stuff behind and just 52 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 5: get him up here and get him so he can 53 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 5: be a contributor. 54 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 4: So there's Mike Brown of the Bengals talking about where 55 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 4: they stand when it comes to Shamar Stewart and whether 56 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 4: or not a deal is going to get done. 57 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 6: Here's the hard for a part from me hearing that 58 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 6: sorry Ford and slipping stink about Lee. No one followed 59 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 6: up and just asked the question that really should be asked, Mike, 60 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 6: why are you guys putting a new. 61 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: Language in Schmart Stewart's contract. 62 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 6: I mean, I understand you didn't like the president that 63 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 6: was set beforehand with the language in the contract, but 64 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 6: you have multiple players in your roster who are playing 65 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 6: with contracts that have different language, so you ended upholding 66 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 6: them to that. So why are you doing this to 67 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 6: Shamar Stewart and no one else is doing this, it's 68 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 6: just you, It's just Cincinnati. Now it's throwing prerogative if 69 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 6: they want to do this. 70 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: I think. 71 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 6: Look, everyone agrees that if someone's doing something heinous, they're 72 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 6: gonna get in trouble for it. 73 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 2: The league's got to. 74 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 6: Suspend them anyway, they're not gonna be able to play, 75 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 6: And yeah, they shouldn't be owed that. It should avoid 76 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 6: some of the guarantees in fact, something that's already written 77 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 6: in these contracts. So it's a little different from the 78 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 6: perspective of what they're trying to do. But I look 79 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 6: at this and just say, you've already set the press 80 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 6: and with other players not doing this, Like, what makes 81 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 6: you think that you're trying to change it now? Is 82 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 6: going to work with Shamar Stewart and his agent? How 83 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 6: does that fear to them? My bigger question though, is 84 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 6: if they sign Trey Hendrickson, is that a sign where 85 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 6: this thing really could bleed on or is that a 86 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 6: sign where we really could potentially see Schmar Stewart look 87 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 6: at all options and maybe try to go back to 88 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:10,679 Speaker 6: college football. 89 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 4: Duke Tobin, who is the Bengals executive, he's basically their 90 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 4: general manager, and he talked and gave his thoughts yesterday 91 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 4: as to why the deal still hasn't been done with 92 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 4: Shamar Stewart. 93 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 7: The negotiations. Yeah, I won't get into all the details 94 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 7: of it. You know, I don't blame Schamar. He's listening 95 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 7: to the advice that he's paying for. I don't understand 96 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 7: the advice. I don't agree with it. I'm not the 97 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 7: one paying for it. But that's where it is. If 98 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 7: I thought we were treating him unfairly, it would be 99 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 7: a different story. But we're treating him fairly with all 100 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 7: the rest of the draft picks in. 101 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: This year's draft. 102 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 4: Zach Hiller, the agent for Shamar Stewart, heard that and 103 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 4: had this statement quote, Duke Tobin has had no involvement 104 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 4: in this negotiation and it seems to be above his 105 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 4: pay grade. 106 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 8: So it just it just continues to drag on man 107 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 8: like this. This is why does Shamar Stewart, By the way, 108 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 8: does he have any track record of any arrests of 109 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 8: any Is there anything I don't know like that? 110 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 4: That's why. And you asked the question like why why now? 111 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 4: I look, I could kind of understand, Hey, this guy's 112 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 4: got a checkered past. There's some stuff there. We want 113 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 4: to make sure that we're going to be safe with 114 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 4: all this. If there's none of that, what am I 115 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 4: missing it? Just like it just feels like more nickel 116 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 4: and dime stuff with them. 117 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 6: This becomes the issue for every company. By the way, 118 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 6: this isn't just like exclusive to a sports franchise, but 119 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 6: when they want to change the language within their contracts 120 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,799 Speaker 6: with their employees and what's guaranteed to them and what's 121 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 6: not based on certain circumstances, and there comes a point 122 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 6: in time where maybe with their legal counsel wants to, 123 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 6: you know, plant their flag and say this is the year. 124 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: We're gonna do it. Everyone's gonna have to agree with it. 125 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 6: And in this case, what's I guess what's surprising about 126 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 6: it is the need for the position. Like of all 127 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 6: the people, I mean, this is the position that you 128 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 6: need the most. You have one guy retire, you have 129 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 6: another guy who you haven't who's who's been extremely productive, 130 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 6: that's playing way under his market value in Trey Hendrickson, 131 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 6: and he's in his last year of his deal, still. 132 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: Winning on a new deal, and. 133 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 6: Then you draft Schamar Stewart's replacement and you don't want 134 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 6: to sign him to his contract. So when people want 135 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 6: to say, like, oh, you know, you're just a Bengals hater, No, no, 136 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 6: I'm not. I love Joe Burrow. I love watching him 137 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 6: play the game. This team is one of the most 138 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 6: fun teams to watch. The difficulty is you have to 139 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 6: understand the ownerships. They're cheap and they're not willing to 140 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 6: invest to allow this team to compete for a Super Bowl. 141 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 6: We're gonna have Pete Prisco and I'm sure he'll just 142 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 6: going to defend Duke Tobin because he's close to some 143 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 6: of these guys and he yucks it up with them. 144 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, he will defend Tobin. He 145 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: yucks it up with them. 146 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 4: All Right, So you've you've done this before, call your shot. 147 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 4: If you ask Pete a question about Duke Tobin, what 148 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 4: will his response be? 149 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: All right? 150 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 4: If we've we've got to get the something along the line. 151 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: I think. 152 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 6: I think what we do to make it fair is 153 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 6: we play the sound from Duke Tobin and we let 154 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 6: Pete react. And I'm telling you right now, he's going 155 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 6: to react in a Maynor that defends the Bengals in 156 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 6: Duke Tobin. And here's the crazy thing is because when 157 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 6: Joe Burrow was drafted on Draft night, number one overall, 158 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 6: p went out on a limb. He'd said Joe Burrow 159 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 6: would win multiple championships with the Bengals. Now, I was 160 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 6: there with a few other people who heard this. He 161 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 6: claims it was only one. But really the only reason 162 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 6: why question whether or not Joe Burrow would be able 163 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 6: to win multiple super Bowls with the Bengals, It's not 164 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 6: Joe Burrow. It's the Bengals, and it's because of decision 165 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 6: like this from their ownership or their front office and 166 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 6: how they handle business. 167 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: And if you want to, if you if you want. 168 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 6: To look at one of the reasons why the Bengals 169 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 6: have underperformed, just look at the slow starts they've gotten 170 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 6: off to in the first four games of any season. 171 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 6: Go back to the last five years. Do you want to 172 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 6: know how many winning records they've had that the first 173 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 6: four games at that point three and one are bet 174 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 6: Do you want to know how many they've had? 175 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: Zero? 176 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 6: And if you extrapolate that even further, compare it to 177 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 6: Baltimore for example, the last five years right there at 178 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 6: the top of the division, they've won every single year. 179 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 6: Look at the Steelers by comparison three at the last 180 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 6: five seasons, where five. 181 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: Hundred are better. 182 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 6: Oh, and then if you look at like Kansas City 183 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 6: for example, the Bills don't worry just every single year 184 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 6: they've gotten off to a faster start and I had 185 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 6: a winning record after the first four games. If you 186 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 6: don't think that stuff plays a role or factor in 187 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 6: building momentum or allow these teams to be consistently in 188 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 6: the playoffs, you're dead wrong. And the problem is the 189 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 6: Bengals don't handle business in the offseason. They're either going 190 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 6: to be coming in late with the rookie and then 191 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 6: figuring out the old Trey Hendrickson hold out, or they're 192 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 6: gonna have to, you know, pay Trey Henderson and will 193 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 6: figure out how to make the rest work with Samar Stewart. 194 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 6: Maybe he comes back, maybe he doesn't, whatever the case 195 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 6: may be. This is one of the many issues they've 196 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 6: botched because what was their weakest link coming into the offseason. 197 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: It's their defense. 198 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, and they didn't address the most important position on defense. 199 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 4: And Zach Taylor this offseason has said that they're going 200 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 4: to get you know, some playing time in the preseason. 201 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 4: He thinks that's what the issue is when it comes 202 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 4: to their slow starts, because it has been a problem. 203 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 4: That's why. Look last year when people were saying, well, 204 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 4: Kansas City, they didn't want to play Cincinnati. That's why 205 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 4: they they laid an egg in the final week of 206 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 4: the season. Man tough balls. Cincinnati had all those opportunities 207 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 4: early on. They lost games they should have won because 208 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 4: they couldn't stop anybody, most notably against Baltimore. I think 209 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 4: I think they lost twice to Baltimore last year. Like 210 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 4: that's on them, Like, don't expect somebody else to do 211 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 4: your work late in the season when you had work 212 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 4: to do early and you didn't get it done again, 213 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 4: which has always been the problem over the past four 214 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 4: or five years for the Bengals. Now the subject of 215 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson. Mike Brown did also talk about that, and 216 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 4: he broke down sort of what negotiations are like with 217 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson. Here was the Bengals team president. 218 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 5: We aren't going to trade Trey. We're working to get 219 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 5: Trey signed as we speak here, there are guys over 220 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 5: in the office working to get that. I think it'll 221 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 5: get done. It is the way Trey can be. We 222 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 5: like Trey as a person. He's a good guy. But 223 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 5: when it comes to these negotiations, and we've been through 224 00:11:54,800 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 5: a few of them with him, he pushes hard, he 225 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 5: gets emotional. We never have an easy time of it. 226 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 5: But there's one thing that is consistent. It always gets done, 227 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 5: and I think this one will. But we'll see. I've 228 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 5: been proven wrong before, but I am pretty confident that 229 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 5: we'll get there at the end. 230 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 4: So there was Don Rickles breaking down the contract negotiations 231 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 4: with Trey Hendrickson. So tell me that guy didn't look 232 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 4: like Don Rickles. He looks a little bit like Don. 233 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 4: I'm telling you, it looks a little bit like Don. 234 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 4: When they showed Mike Brown on TV yesterday discussing the 235 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 4: contract situations with Cincinnati, I was like, Oh, that's the 236 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 4: guy who ran the movie theater on Dirty Work, Like 237 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 4: I know that guy that was de Niro's right hand 238 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,359 Speaker 4: man and Casino, I know that guy. That's Don Rickles. Ultimately, 239 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 4: the fact that Mike Brown breaks down the negotiations with 240 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson. The vibe got from that was yeah, yeah, yeah. 241 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 4: Trey says this. He says that he gets emotional, but 242 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 4: we always end up getting it done. If I'm Trey Hendrickson, 243 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, kiss my ass like I'm looking. I 244 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 4: want to get paid. And if you're not going to 245 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 4: pay me, trade me, like, send me to somewhere. Don't 246 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 4: make a ridiculous asking price in return. Send me somewhere, 247 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 4: and let's just move on with our lives if it's 248 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 4: not gonna happen here. Because if you're Trey Hendrickson, there's 249 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 4: no way he can show up at this point, right. 250 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: It'd be tough too. 251 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 6: I think he should be dug in and rightfully so, 252 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 6: he's outperformed his contract. They've known now for a couple 253 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 6: of years. And the worst part about this, I your 254 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 6: Cincinnati is there are other trade partners. You know, a 255 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 6: team like the New England Patriots for a rumor to 256 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 6: be in connection with the Sincanti Bengals because they needed 257 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 6: an edge rusher and Trey Hendrickson seemed to be a 258 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 6: really good fit for them, and nothing ever came from it. 259 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 6: So if you look at from the Bengals standpoint, if 260 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 6: you're a fan, you're probably at least botched that scenario 261 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 6: as you got his you know, replacement in waiting and 262 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 6: Shamar Stewart the first round pick. You could have got 263 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 6: some draft capital in exchange for him, but instead this 264 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 6: whole thing drug on now where I don't think you're 265 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 6: gonna get the best to offer for him because of 266 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 6: how late you are, you know, getting into the season. 267 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 4: So one Pete Prisco is going to defend Duke Tobin 268 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 4: and the bank. 269 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 6: I'm telling you, I'm telling you he's going. Here's the 270 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 6: weird thing about Pete. Pete's the type where he'll say 271 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 6: things like what's good for me is good for me, 272 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 6: and try to get all the money you can while 273 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 6: you're playing. He'll see all these things, and then he'll 274 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 6: immediately contradict himself when he knows a few people from 275 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 6: the front office of certain organizations and he listen, He's 276 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 6: gonna argue with me about this. I'm already telling you. 277 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 6: He will argue with me about how they're changing the 278 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,119 Speaker 6: language this year in the contracts and why the Bengals should. 279 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: Be able to do that. 280 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 6: He will argue on their behalf. I'm telling you he 281 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 6: does this with the guys that are nice to him 282 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 6: that he knows the organizations. 283 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 4: All right, so you've called your shot. Pete Prisco will 284 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 4: cape up for the Cincinnati Bengals coming up next hour. 285 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 4: It did give me to thinking, though, because if the 286 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 4: Bengals are this cheap, everybody's got something that they're really 287 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 4: cheap about in their life, like really frugal about. Can 288 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 4: you think of on the top off the top of 289 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 4: your head, just something you're really cheap about, something you 290 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 4: refuse to pay top dollar for because it just you're 291 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 4: not doing it no matter what. There's certain things you'll 292 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 4: splurge on, you're just not doing it with this. 293 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: Probably airlines travel. 294 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I've told you my stories of 295 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 6: the round up with Old Southwest or like flying Spirit 296 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 6: or some of these like discount airlines, mostly because I'm 297 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 6: okay flying on a lesser airline as long as it's. 298 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: A direct flight. 299 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 6: So I would say that's like the number one thing 300 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 6: where I don't I don't mind, you know, sit an economy, 301 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 6: sitting in some discount airline, do whatever, as long as 302 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 6: it gets me back to my family faster it's a 303 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 6: direct flight. 304 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 4: I'm down for that sports betting for me. My wife 305 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 4: was giving me a hard time because I was waiting 306 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 4: to cash a ticket. I bet on Max Holloway to 307 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 4: beat Dustin Poier this weekend in the UFC event, and 308 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 4: I was waiting to cash the ticket and the return 309 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 4: was fourteen dollars. Literally, I'm standing behind guys who were 310 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 4: being paid out one hundred dollars bills in front of 311 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 4: me because they also bet on Max Holloway, these guys 312 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 4: from Hawaii, and I'm watching them count the cash and 313 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 4: I literally give my ticket to this guy and he 314 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 4: goes fourteen, hands me a ten and four ones in return. Oh, 315 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 4: I was like, why even bother? At that point, I'm like, 316 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 4: I don't know. I just wanted some action I cannot find. 317 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 4: I cannot get to a point to where I'm betting 318 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 4: any more than say, twenty dollars on a sporting event. 319 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 4: I just can't do it. I'm very frugal. That's my 320 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 4: Bengals moment. 321 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 6: By the way, there's a lot of things that you 322 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 6: could actually throw in that category. 323 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: For you. You're the one of more frugal, cheap people. I like, 324 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: what everything else? 325 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 4: Because my truck's a little old. 326 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: You literally starve yourself into need food just because it 327 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: saves you money. 328 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 4: No, that's not why, but that is that also a 329 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 4: side perked all that. Yeah, you do, you do end 330 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 4: up saving a little bit. 331 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 6: Here about the wedding, did you like purposely have it 332 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 6: during Covido? 333 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was great. Yeah. So we had the wedding 334 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 4: during COVID and it was before one of the shutdowns 335 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 4: and or one of the lockdowns, because out out here 336 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 4: in California there was like four hundred lockdowns. And listen, 337 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 4: some people are still locked down, you know, depending on 338 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 4: depending on who you are. You'll see it from time 339 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 4: to time, people driving in their cars wearing you know, masks. 340 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 4: It's it's an interesting phenomenon out here, but things are 341 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 4: different here in California. And they did a lockdown a 342 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 4: week before our wedding. There was discussions about just canceling 343 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 4: it because the venue wasn't going to be open. We 344 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,719 Speaker 4: had a mariachi band hired, they weren't going to be playing, like, 345 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 4: there was all sorts of stuff that was happening, and 346 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 4: I was on the verge of having the discussion with 347 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 4: my wife about hey, let's just go ahead and just 348 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 4: reschedule this like it's but you know, I want to 349 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 4: make sure that everybody can be here. And then I 350 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 4: thought to myself, we're saving like at least a couple 351 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 4: grand on this thing. Brilliant, And so we just went 352 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 4: through with a little bit of a subpar wedding during 353 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 4: COVID blamed it on the pandemic, for the accommodations not 354 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 4: being what a lot of people expected them to be, 355 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 4: and we were out. Baby, I think that wedding costs 356 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 4: like fourteen dollars itself, and put. 357 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 2: It on your honeymoon, so that's always good too. 358 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 4: Well, look, we had ye stuff plan that didn't that 359 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 4: didn't go through, but we're hoping to knock that out 360 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 4: in August, so hopefully we'll get that. 361 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: Taken care of. 362 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 4: But look, Lee, do you have anything that you're the 363 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 4: bangles on, very frugal on. 364 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 9: Well, you know me, I'm a well I go for 365 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 9: well drinks, so I'm never going top shelf. 366 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 4: So yeah, just the Well's fine. 367 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 9: Whenever the bartender asked, you got a call on that, 368 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 9: Wal's fine, and then just you know close. I pretty 369 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 9: much just kind of take what falls to me. I've 370 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 9: always I was always the young one of all the cousins, 371 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 9: so I always just got the hand me downs, so 372 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 9: I'm used to that. And then shopping, like grocery shopping, 373 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 9: I never go name brand. I'll go with the all 374 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 9: store brand, store brand all the time. 375 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, as long as it says compared to the active 376 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 4: ingredients on the top. Yeah, my mom taught me that. Yeah, 377 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 4: you do that all the time. Just look compared to 378 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 4: the active ingredients. It's just as good. Yeah. Look that's 379 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 4: I mean, bag cereal, Like, why do you need honey 380 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 4: nut cheerios when you can get toasted o's and. 381 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: Oh toasted otes are great? 382 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 4: They're not, Yes, they are, come on half the price. 383 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 2: Are pretty good. 384 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 4: Actually, yeah those are fine. Lareina. What are you cheap about? 385 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 4: What are you the bangles about? Usually gas prices. 386 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 10: I will always find the cheapest place for gas. 387 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 6: Prices as you will drive around wasting more gas to 388 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 6: find No. 389 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 10: No, but I but I, but I like mentally recall 390 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 10: where the cheapest spots are. So like, there's one I 391 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 10: passed by the other day, it's three sixty nine. I 392 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 10: love a good cheap gas. 393 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 4: Wow, three sixty nine. Yeah, I'm going there. This tell 394 00:19:58,600 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 4: me where it's at. 395 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're that's crazy to hear you guys say that 396 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 6: in other parts of the country, that's like, you know, premium. 397 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's it's ridiculous out of here four fifty 398 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 4: at least anywhere, Yeah, anywhere you go. But yeah, but 399 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 4: like you're like, what's it like, you're saving what ten 400 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 4: to fifteen cents? 401 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 10: Yeah, but then you know, the difference between cash and 402 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 10: credit is another ten cents on top of that. Think 403 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 10: about it. 404 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 4: I guess it adds up. Get a gas card, you know, 405 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 4: get something that you'll get money back when you buy gas, 406 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 4: then you got to pay that back. And I'm just 407 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 4: not responding. 408 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 6: Can we swing back to Jonas for the other fourteen 409 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 6: thousand things that he's really cheap on? 410 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? 411 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 4: What do you want to hear about? 412 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: Pretty much everything? All right? 413 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 4: So what else am I really really cheaping ross dress 414 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 4: for less? Yeah? 415 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 6: You will look to find things already a discounted store, absolutely, yeah, 416 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 6: and you'll try to find it even more discount. 417 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 4: Absolutely, Like some people like Nordstrom, you start at Nordstrom rack. 418 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 4: If you can't find it there, maybe you'll have a 419 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 4: conversation about going there. There's also if you go to 420 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 4: a mace Ease down below. Macy's is a place like 421 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 4: on the lower level. It's called off It's like Macy's 422 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 4: off brand or something like that, and it's all the 423 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 4: stuff that they're going to be getting rid of that 424 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 4: they have down below if you go to a Macy's 425 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 4: and them all somewhere. So there is that if you 426 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 4: want to share. Yeah, like there's there's you know, just 427 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 4: you can find deals. But the Bengals are trying to 428 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 4: find deals with their draft picks and their best players 429 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 4: on defense, and so I think it's it's the same thing. 430 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 4: And by the way, there's more. You act like you 431 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 4: don't have some things you're cheap about as well too, Brandon, 432 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 4: all right, I already named one. Yeah, like airline travel. Yeah, 433 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 4: all right, So I would say, what else do we got? 434 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 4: You're not going to overpay to golf, like you're not 435 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 4: You're not going to overpay. 436 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: I don't. 437 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know that i'd really I don't 438 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 6: know how to just that. I probably wouldn't. But at 439 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 6: the same time, I would just not golf. I don't 440 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 6: know if that's a fair comparison. Golf isn't cheap it 441 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 6: in general, Like if you. 442 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: Were one of those people who. 443 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 6: So we're gonna say something like that, like Lee, Like 444 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 6: Lee would probably be more in that category than I 445 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 6: would be. Look, i'd go play Pebble or one of 446 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 6: the really nice ones that costs probably a thousand bucks 447 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 6: whatever it is to play, which it's actually way more 448 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 6: than that, because I believe you have to stay on 449 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 6: property and it's a whole thing from there. But I would, 450 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 6: I would pay good money to go play. Of course, 451 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 6: like that, what about cars? You pay money for cars? 452 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 6: Top dollar for cars? 453 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: No? 454 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, so you're not a car guy. 455 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: No, I don't really care what I drive. 456 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. That's always been the one that's blown 457 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 4: my mind. Like people that spend an exorbitant amount of 458 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 4: money on cars, I've never understood. If you've got one, 459 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 4: that should be enough. Like you've got one to go? 460 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 6: Are you saying, like Mike Brown in the Bengals have 461 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 6: a bunch of beaters in the parking lot, like they're 462 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 6: just like a bunch of. 463 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 2: Like just terrible. 464 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're truck would fit in there. That's that's I mean, 465 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 4: that's rude. But you're probably right. And look, my truck 466 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 4: just reached the three hundred and eighty three thousand mark. Okay, 467 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 4: so it's an O six and I'm proud of it. 468 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 4: And I've got one car. That's all I need. I've 469 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 4: been my wife has gotten on me, LeVar has gotten 470 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 4: on me. Everybody's gotten on me. You need a new one, 471 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 4: You need a new one. But you just drive that 472 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 4: thing until you don't drive it anymore. So listen, everybody's 473 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 4: got a little bangles in him. It just depends on you, know, 474 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 4: how you choose to do it. Also, I would say 475 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 4: this about Lee. Nobody is better other than maybe my nephew. 476 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 4: My nephew's really good at this at knowing daily deals 477 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 4: where you can get stuff for cheap. When it comes 478 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 4: to food, like Lee knows, like that should be a 479 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 4: segment we do Lee's Daily Deal. You know every place 480 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 4: that's got some sort of a deal every single day 481 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 4: of the week. 482 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 2: I do. 483 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 9: I do know that, But I'll say that that's kind 484 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 9: of where I do spend my most money is eat out. 485 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 6: And yeah, I've noticed I've noticed that with Lee because 486 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 6: even at nicer restaurants, does not hold back. He looks 487 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 6: for an expensive bottle of wine. He's really trying to 488 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 6: delve into it. I've witnessed this by picking up a 489 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 6: few meals. 490 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 4: By the way, I've gotten number when Lee drank that 491 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 4: bottle that someone else bought for us by himself. 492 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 2: Because no one's gonna what. Nobody's helping me. 493 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 4: That's on you guys. By the way, I have I 494 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 4: did receive a text message from somebody listening to the 495 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 4: show who claims to know Brady Quinn very well. Uh, 496 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 4: and they say where you go cheap is on wine. 497 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 4: You never drink good wine. That is definitely not true. 498 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 4: That's that's just what I've been told. 499 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: Again. 500 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 4: You know, I don't wanna uh, I don't want to 501 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 4: air anybody out here who may have said that. 502 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 6: But you know, well I know some people with sell wine, 503 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 6: so you know, they're just more upset. I don't buy 504 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 6: wine from them. But that's what it's more about. 505 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 2: Also, there was zero appreciation. 506 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 8: Is that zero? 507 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 6: Zero appreciation for uh, for yesterday's duds? 508 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 4: Is that really what the backstory is? 509 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 6: Now? 510 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: The backstory is again just let's just get this all 511 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 2: out there. And this is this is gonna be. 512 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 6: A tough revelation for one of my buddies because basically, 513 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 6: this is what happened I'm gonna air him out. 514 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,479 Speaker 2: I'm not life forgear about that. We're want to come 515 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 2: back with us. We're gonna break, We'll come back with us, 516 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: all right. 517 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 4: So somebody's gonna get that work. 518 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 11: Uh. 519 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 4: Somebody listening to Fox Sports Radio who happens to be 520 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 4: a close friend of the show here is going to 521 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 4: get that work here live on the air. It is 522 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 4: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox 523 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 4: Sports Radio. That's next here on FSR. 524 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 525 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 3: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 526 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 3: Jonas Knox weekdays at six a m. Eastern three am 527 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 3: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 528 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 4: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio, 529 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 4: Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up a 530 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 4: little over twelve minutes from now, somebody has some thoughts 531 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 4: on this new era of football and how social media 532 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 4: plays an impact on it all. We'll get into that 533 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 4: for you again a little over twelve minutes from now. 534 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 4: Do you want to remind you we're brought to you 535 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 4: by Express Pros. Do your summer plans include a new job? 536 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 4: Want to work with an expert in your local job 537 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 4: market to find the right role, just call your local 538 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 4: Express employment professionals go to expresspros dot com, and Express 539 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 4: never charges job seekers for a fee. So, Brady, you 540 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 4: were saying before we went to break, you were going 541 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 4: to out somebody who listens to the show here. 542 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, well one of my buddies who listens to 543 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 6: the show. Who this is a It wasn't that recent, 544 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 6: but it happened probably in the last few months. Basically 545 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 6: long story short, growing up with them. One of my 546 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 6: best friends. But he's complaining about the fact that we're 547 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 6: friends because I happened to give like a video shout 548 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 6: out for his company, and he was upset with the 549 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 6: fact that no one really knew we were friends before 550 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 6: that video shout out at his company. But once the 551 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 6: video shoutout happened, then he has to be inconvenience with 552 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 6: people asking him questions about whatever it could be, whether 553 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 6: it was my career, us being friends hanging out. It 554 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 6: could be current college football, NFL topics, or questions about 555 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 6: our radio show. His whole point was, it's a burden 556 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 6: to be my friend now because it's impacted his career 557 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 6: which I told him, given the fact that I feel 558 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 6: like I've taken care of him pretty darn well throughout 559 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 6: his life, that is one of the most ridiculous things 560 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 6: everyone's ever said. So now I just constantly apologize for 561 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 6: being his friend. 562 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 4: So, now, is this somebody who may or may not 563 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 4: have called into the show while warns twice at some 564 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 4: point throughout the course of your friendship here since working 565 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 4: at FSR, I'm. 566 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 2: Sure he's called it at some point. 567 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure there was an Easter that he was 568 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 6: pretty hammered on that he called it. 569 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I mean, look, I would seem like 570 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 11: that would seem like it would be a perk to 571 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 11: be your friend, especially all the all the opportunities and doors. 572 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 6: And I hope that it was a bit rich coming 573 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 6: off of a trip that we took to see some 574 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 6: playoff games. You know, he was a part of that 575 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 6: twenty four hour span where we were able to fly 576 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 6: up and back to South Bend to go watch that game, 577 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 6: and he's standing next to Shane Gillis and other people, 578 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 6: you know, in a booth watching the game. And then 579 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 6: we're down in Columbus the next the next night watching 580 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 6: Ohio State Tennessee having a good time. 581 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 2: You would think, you would think, but. 582 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 4: No, by the way, I think. So I remember this 583 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 4: person that we were discussing. I remember, and I don't 584 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 4: know anything. I don't know, you know, the background or 585 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 4: anybody's reputation or anything like that. But at your golf 586 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 4: tournament the year that I went, I remember, after the tournament, 587 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 4: we were going to a place. Some people had had 588 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 4: some drinks and we were going to take an uber 589 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 4: and somebody was complaining, like, oh, he always does this, 590 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 4: Like does what? And they were complaining because he needed 591 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 4: to be dropped off at his place or needed to 592 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 4: drop his car off at his place so that he 593 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 4: could get the ride in the uber and not have 594 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 4: that responsibility to worry about. And so I heard that 595 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 4: from a couple of people, like, oh, typical him, he 596 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 4: always does this. So there is a little bit of 597 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 4: a reputation that precedes this individual. But he's fun and 598 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 4: we love him. Yeah, And you know, I don't know. 599 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 4: I don't know what to say about the cheap wine 600 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 4: accusation that that feels a little bit insulting. 601 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 2: You'd know that better than I. 602 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 6: But yeah, here's the thing is, we're not you know, 603 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 6: we're true friends. We could still be competitive through all 604 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 6: of it. You know, We're not like some of the 605 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 6: guys who kind of act like the friends but make 606 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 6: themselves out to the enemies. 607 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 4: A good call, good call. Yeah, there is that discussion 608 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 4: to be had here, and we are going to have 609 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 4: that discussion, because if you want to talk about two 610 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 4: of the all time greats in the NFL, apparently there 611 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 4: was a rule you couldn't be friends, you had to 612 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 4: be some enemies. We've got the details on that for you. 613 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 4: That's next here on FSR. 614 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 615 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 3: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and 616 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 3: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific. 617 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 4: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Here Fox Sports Radio, 618 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 4: Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you coming off top of 619 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 4: next now, we'll call it about fifteen minutes from now. 620 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 4: Apparently somebody in the world of football's issues were so 621 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 4: bad it's cost them yet again. We'll give you the 622 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 4: details on that for you again about fifteen minutes from 623 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 4: now here on FSR. And before we get to the 624 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 4: talk of enemies, old school versus New School in the NFL. 625 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 4: I want to remind you that you can stream this 626 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 4: show and all of our Fox Sports Radio shows live 627 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 4: twenty four to seven in the new and improved iHeart 628 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 4: Radio app. Just search Fox Sports Radio in the app 629 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 4: to stream us live. One of the newest features in 630 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 4: the app is that you can select Fox Sports Radio 631 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 4: is one of your presets, just like the preset on 632 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 4: a radio dial. So be sure to preset Fox Sports 633 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 4: Radio in the iHeartRadio app and it will always pop 634 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 4: up at the top of your screen. So Tom Brady 635 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 4: wrote on his website yesterday about his relationship with Peyton Manning. 636 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 4: He talked about the respect he had for Peyton Manning 637 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 4: and that the respect has grown throughout the years. He 638 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 4: also went on to say this, his respect for Peyton 639 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 4: Manning was always there, but while we were competing against 640 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 4: each other, I couldn't let that get in the way 641 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 4: of the fact that he was my enemy, that he 642 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 4: didn't respect me, that he thought he was better than 643 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 4: me because he was a number one pick from an 644 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 4: SEC school, or at least that's what I made myself believe. 645 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 4: Convincing myself that those things were true created a sense 646 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 4: of urgency within me to prove him wrong, and it 647 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 4: provided the extra bit of energy and motivation necessary to 648 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 4: lock in and focus and execute just that much more 649 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 4: so that I could beat him more often than he 650 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 4: could beat me. Brady went on to say, I also 651 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 4: believe this kind of an old school point of view, 652 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 4: considering where we are with social media these days, that 653 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 4: you have to allow your rivals to become your enemies, 654 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 4: true enemies in your mind and on the field. You 655 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 4: can and should respect them, but you can't look at 656 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 4: them like friendly competition. Brady went on to say this, 657 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 4: I didn't have any real friends on any other teams 658 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 4: when I played. I had the guys on my team 659 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 4: and that was it. That from Tom Brady on his website. Yeah, 660 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 4: those days are over. Like it feels like those days 661 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 4: are gone because everybody's buddy buddy now, which is a shame. 662 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 6: I think it's a culmination of things. You know, for quarterbacks, 663 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 6: a lot of these quarterback camps where these young men 664 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 6: get to know each other going through like whether it's 665 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 6: Elite eleven or used through the under Armor series of 666 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 6: Campsy's and Got camps as well. You know that changed 667 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 6: the game to me in regards to quarterbacks, because I 668 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 6: remember being in high school not ever had having cross 669 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 6: pass with some of the guys that you'd see on 670 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 6: these national lists where you're ranked in the top ten 671 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 6: together and you'd see them maybe every once in a 672 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 6: while where you'd be at a camp for one of 673 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 6: the schools, whether it be Michigan or Ohio State or 674 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 6: Notre Dame, whoever, and at that moment, you're like, I'm 675 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 6: gonna beat this guy. I'm gonna be better than this guy. 676 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 6: You know, it's different when you're touring around and you're 677 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 6: spending like an intense amount of time and almost like 678 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 6: you're at a camp with some of these kids where 679 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 6: you know you're potentially roommates and you're getting to know 680 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 6: them a little bit. So that's changed in a big way. 681 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 6: I mean, when Tom Brady and Peyton Manning were, you know, 682 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 6: coming out of high school into college college in the NFL, 683 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 6: it wasn't like that at all. You know, you weren't 684 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 6: going down to the Manning Passing Academy. I think about 685 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 6: obviously Peyton now, who's a huge part of that, but 686 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 6: a lot of these college kids, because how transient things are, 687 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 6: they're going from school to school, and so even if 688 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 6: they're in a quarterback room, they know eventually they'll get 689 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 6: their opportunity, whether it's there or somewhere else, and so 690 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 6: they're still keep in touch. They still are Are you 691 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 6: act friendly towards one another or more more cheer you know, 692 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 6: you know, I guess, you know, kind of cheering for 693 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 6: one another. It's just to me, it's it's very foreign. 694 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 6: It was something that I could never relate to. I've 695 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 6: always said, you know, a backup quarterback job for a 696 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 6: lot of people out there seems like a great gig 697 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 6: because of how much you get paid, but the spirit 698 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 6: of it it's awful. I mean, you aren't the guy. 699 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 6: You aren't out there in battle, in competition. You're watching 700 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 6: all your brothers, everyone else out there. It's one of 701 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 6: the worst things that I feel like you have to 702 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 6: do is prepare like you're going to and then you 703 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 6: never get that opportunity. So, you know, looking at how 704 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 6: Tom Brady View had paid man, this draws comparison to 705 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 6: Michael Jordan for me, where you're trying to make everyone 706 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 6: out to either be an enemy or competition and you're 707 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,439 Speaker 6: trying to create that ship on your shoulder. So It's 708 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 6: definitely rare in today's world. But I do think there's 709 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 6: some guys who wouldn't admit it publicly because I think 710 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 6: they're good handling the media. But go ask Josh Allen 711 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 6: if he doesn't have a chip on his shoulder and 712 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 6: how he feels about everyone les, go Auss, Joe Burrows, 713 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 6: some of these other guys. 714 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 2: I guarantee you if you were. 715 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 6: On you know, recording it on camera on video, they 716 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 6: would still have some choice words to say. 717 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 4: You remember when people would complain about Brady Tom Brady 718 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 4: would leave the field and he wouldn't shake certain quarterbacks hands, 719 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 4: or he would leave the field and he wouldn't you know. 720 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 4: Maybe it was Eli Manning was one of them, but 721 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 4: there was there was time throughout, especially later in his career, 722 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 4: where he would just walk off and he would get 723 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 4: criticized for it. Well, he's being a poor sport, he's 724 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 4: being's this, He's been a dude. He just competed for 725 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 4: three hours in a game that he prepared the entire 726 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 4: week for. They came up short, he lost. He's frustrated. 727 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 4: I get it. Why does he need to sit there 728 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 4: and play nice with the guy afterwards when he just 729 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 4: lost that game that he invested. Well, everybody else is 730 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 4: doing it. He's not everybody else, as we've seen. That's 731 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 4: not the way he operates. It's not the way he works. 732 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 4: It's why there's been speculation when he was going to 733 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 4: join was it the Raiders or when he was going 734 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 4: to join some team. When he was considering coming back 735 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 4: and ultimately decided on Tampa Bay, that he said, you're 736 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 4: going to go with that fing guy, like that's who, 737 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 4: That's who Tom Brady was. That that is what made 738 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 4: him great. I like the fact that he was a 739 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 4: little bit of a poor sport. I never had an 740 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 4: issue with him. I swear to god, I thought. 741 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 6: I only I only have an issue with it is 742 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 6: if whatever you do when you win, do the same 743 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 6: thing when you lose, like you can't be two different 744 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 6: people between him. That to me is what makes you 745 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 6: a bad sport. If you can't handle a lot like 746 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 6: losing the same way you go about handle winning in 747 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 6: regards to your opponent, then to me, that's what makes 748 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 6: it you a bad sport. Like if you're going to 749 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 6: be the guy who walks out only after you win 750 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 6: to go shake the guy's hands across the way. That's 751 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 6: what I'm saying, because then it comes off as a 752 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 6: whiny cry baby. 753 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 4: Remember when the Bulls I think it was portrayed in 754 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 4: the last Dance where they were upset that the Pistons 755 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 4: walked off the floor before the game was over, and 756 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 4: the Bulls were like, man, what is this like at 757 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 4: least you know, like past the torch on and do 758 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 4: it the right way. And then you come to find out, 759 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 4: oh no, the Celtics did that to the Pistons when 760 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 4: they walked off the floor like that, Like that's just 761 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 4: old school, That's just the way that things were done 762 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 4: back then and nowadays. I don't know if it's because 763 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 4: of the scrutiny. I don't know if it's because of 764 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 4: the buddy buddy relationships or the passing academies or whatever 765 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 4: it is. It just feels like the era that Tom 766 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 4: Brady's breaking down. The mentality. I just I don't see 767 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 4: it anymore. I really don't. 768 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 6: Well, you get some of that radio though, you know, 769 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 6: you get some people who aren't overly fond of other 770 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 6: guys or their people, you know, I mean LeVar Is, 771 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 6: you know, kind of looks out at a lot of 772 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 6: other people as the enemy. Yeah, I think it's it's 773 00:37:58,640 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 6: probably fair to say. 774 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got that approach for sure. Yeah he I mean, look, 775 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 4: whatever it is that show that he does on Saturdays, 776 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 4: Like I don't even you know, that's not like was 777 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:09,919 Speaker 4: is it? 778 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 2: What is it? 779 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:16,240 Speaker 4: Undercard on Game? What is the what's the show again? Enemies? 780 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 4: Like there there is a time slot. This is our 781 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 4: time slot and everybody else we're against. That's the way 782 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 4: we operate on this show, and it should be that way, 783 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 4: old school. 784 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 2: I mean, I did. 785 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 6: I did send some Amma to LeVar this morning. So 786 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 6: I'm sure he'll be getting fired up while he's on 787 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 6: his vacation. 788 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 4: You think he's awake right now, No chance. 789 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 2: No chance. But he'll see it. 790 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,399 Speaker 6: He'll see it eventually, he'll watch it and he'll get 791 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 6: all he'll get all triggered and all, he'll get all 792 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 6: fired up. 793 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 4: So people understand, behind the scenes, Brady and I may 794 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 4: or may not work together to try and get a 795 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 4: rise out of LeVar. 796 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 2: From time to we poke the bear. 797 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 4: We'll poke the bear sometimes like one of those like hey, 798 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 4: I wouldn't let him get away with that. But apparently 799 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 4: we're different, just because you know, that's just gonna rev 800 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 4: the engines. Oh I'm all fired up. Oh yeah, so 801 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 4: he's got that to look forward to when he does 802 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 4: wake up and see that text message. So look, tom Brady, 803 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 4: everything worked out great, and the fact that him and 804 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 4: Peyton Manning can be friends. I do think there is still. 805 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:20,720 Speaker 2: Oh there's still Robber. 806 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 6: And by the way, I think Peyton Manning flies on 807 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 6: the radar because it's not reported how much he's getting 808 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 6: for what he's doing with Omaha Productions. But I don't know. 809 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 6: That schedule is pretty sweet, kind of gets to make 810 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 6: your own deal, and he's making a lot of money 811 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 6: with it. I mean, Jesus, everybody is tom Brady. 812 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 4: But hey, listen, tom Brady's got Sophia ba Gara, so 813 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 4: he's fine. You know, we're all He's still winning that battle.