WEBVTT - The Tire Head

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to take my shoes off. Everybody. Sorry, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a long day and the shoes are coming off.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like when mister Rogers takes his jacket off.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, my shoes come off. It's time to start.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy to be in the booth for once.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Michael, thanks for all the great clips you sent,

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<v Speaker 1>all the information you sent me in advance of this

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<v Speaker 1>Tire Ahead recording. But it just occurred to me, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember the last time I changed my tires on

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<v Speaker 1>my car, and everything seems fine, which got me thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of all this endless tire talk and more tire talk

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<v Speaker 1>that we're going to have. Why does an f one

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<v Speaker 1>and all their data and technological advancement just make tires

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<v Speaker 1>that hold up better that would be better for the

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<v Speaker 1>environment as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Do that?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so I think, well, I think a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 4>But first, just from a safety perspective, you might want

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<v Speaker 4>to take your car in and have those tires inspected.

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<v Speaker 1>For My Heart podcast one on one Studios and Sports

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<v Speaker 1>Illustrated Studios, this is choosing sides, yes one wow, Wow, Tony. Respectfully,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I already know everything there is to

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<v Speaker 1>know about tires.

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<v Speaker 4>Respectfully, I beg to differ.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Matt, Hey, how's it going?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, not too bad? And to convince you otherwise,

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<v Speaker 4>we have invited to the show some true tire heads.

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<v Speaker 4>Matt welcome. Who are you for our listeners? Who is

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<v Speaker 4>who is Matt?

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<v Speaker 1>I am Matt Trumpets.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm co host of Mister Apex podcast, host of tech

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<v Speaker 5>Time on Mister Apex, and I am a professional trumpet

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<v Speaker 5>player who somehow managed to find himself on a podcast

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<v Speaker 5>about Formula one with a bunch of people from England.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's who I am.

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<v Speaker 4>And that is Matt playing in the background.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, well it's actually quite lovely.

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<v Speaker 4>Any overlap between the trumpet worlds and the Formula one

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<v Speaker 4>world or are they just two very different worlds?

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<v Speaker 5>No colliding needed, There's loads of colliding needed because as

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<v Speaker 5>a professional musician, as a trumpet player, it performance is

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<v Speaker 5>what I'm about. And so anytime you look at something

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<v Speaker 5>like Formula one, you look at the job the drivers do,

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<v Speaker 5>you look at the job the engineers do, and they're

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<v Speaker 5>all performing under an unbelievable amount of stress at the

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<v Speaker 5>very very highest level, and in particular the drivers, and

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<v Speaker 5>I know what you want to talk about I know

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<v Speaker 5>you want to talk about tires.

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<v Speaker 1>We will get to that.

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<v Speaker 5>But when you look at the drivers, yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 5>look at something like their lap times in a race,

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<v Speaker 5>and they can be consistent within a couple of tents,

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<v Speaker 5>lap after lap after lap, and then their engineers will

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<v Speaker 5>say things like we need you to do something entirely

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<v Speaker 5>differently but not lose any time, and they'll be within

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<v Speaker 5>a tenth of what they were doing. The consistency they

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<v Speaker 5>bring at that level while they're raising other people, it's

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<v Speaker 5>just it's astonishing to me. It was really one of

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<v Speaker 5>the first things that sort of drew me into the

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<v Speaker 5>sport before I even knew anything about tires or Formula one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so what's so special about the F one tires?

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, what are F one tires? Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>So first of all, let's start with this. Tires on

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<v Speaker 5>their own are unbelievably interesting, and the thing that is

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<v Speaker 5>most interesting about them, kind of like dark matter, is

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<v Speaker 5>no one can entirely explain exactly one hundred percent how

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<v Speaker 5>they work. I mean, the gases have gotten a lot better,

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<v Speaker 5>there are models out there you can use, but at

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<v Speaker 5>the end of the day, it's this freakish combination of

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<v Speaker 5>the kind of material and the different sorts of forces

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<v Speaker 5>that cause grip to happen, and it just it's too complicated.

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<v Speaker 5>No one can model it perfectly, no one understands it

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<v Speaker 5>all the way, and it is the single biggest driver

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<v Speaker 5>of performance differences. If you get your tires right, you're

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<v Speaker 5>talking multiple seconds a lap. If you're an arrow guy

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<v Speaker 5>and you bring an amazing development, that might be worth

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<v Speaker 5>a tenth of a lap, But if your tires aren't

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<v Speaker 5>in the window, that could be seconds a lap that

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<v Speaker 5>you lose. So their single most important driver performance. No

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<v Speaker 5>one understands them. And now they're the same for all

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<v Speaker 5>the teams. All the teams have to try and get

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<v Speaker 5>their heads around it and get it right or get

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<v Speaker 5>it wrong. All your car design, everything is aimed at

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<v Speaker 5>ringing the absolute best out of those tires, and it's

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<v Speaker 5>really hard to do because getting back to point A,

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<v Speaker 5>no one really entirely understands them, even at is zero level.

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<v Speaker 5>Tires are complicated, and the more you know, the more

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<v Speaker 5>you can enjoy watching the racing.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you also know that some drivers are actually incredibly

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<v Speaker 4>good quote unquote managing that tires?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't what is that how do you manage a tire?

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<v Speaker 1>You get back in there, let's go roll. Oh see,

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<v Speaker 1>I love this.

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<v Speaker 5>You're going to ask me about tire management, thinking you're

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<v Speaker 5>going to get an easy, simple answer, and in fact

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<v Speaker 5>you've just unlocked the most complicated.

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<v Speaker 1>Aspect of tires.

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<v Speaker 5>But I will try and keep it fairly straightforward and simple.

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<v Speaker 5>So whenever you drive in a straight line, you're putting

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<v Speaker 5>stress on your tires. If you're stepping on the gas,

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<v Speaker 5>you're putting stress on the tires. And what is called

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<v Speaker 5>a longitudinal direction basically the same direction you're driving, and

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<v Speaker 5>then when you turn, you're adding a lateral component to that.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you think about a tire having a grip

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<v Speaker 5>level of one hundred for one hundred percent, you have

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<v Speaker 5>to balance between the two, so you could be thirty

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<v Speaker 5>percent accelerating seventy percent turning or vice versa. But when

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<v Speaker 5>you do that, you're adding energy to the tires and

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<v Speaker 5>that makes them get hotter. And the thing with tires

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<v Speaker 5>is they're constructed basically in two pieces. There's the tread,

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<v Speaker 5>the bed on top that touches the ground, and then

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<v Speaker 5>there's the carcass, the bit underneath that actually keeps everything

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<v Speaker 5>together and makes it work. And what you want is

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<v Speaker 5>for the carcass and the tread to be of a

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<v Speaker 5>similar temperature. And as that carcass warms up, it gets

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<v Speaker 5>more flexible, you get more grip out of it. And

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<v Speaker 5>so when you go into your turn, whether you're breaking

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<v Speaker 5>or accelerating, and you're putting that energy in the tire itself,

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<v Speaker 5>it actually isn't pointed quite the same way as the car,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's called the slip angle. And the bigger the

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<v Speaker 5>slip angle, the more energy goes into the tire. And

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<v Speaker 5>if you make the surface of the tire too hot,

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<v Speaker 5>you start to have problems with it. So you get

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<v Speaker 5>things like graining, which you probably have heard people talk about,

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<v Speaker 5>where you get this little ripple pattern. It's like having

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<v Speaker 5>little marbles of rubber on the tire. And so if

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<v Speaker 5>you overheat the tire when the carcass is too cold,

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<v Speaker 5>you get graining and suddenly your tire won't go as fast.

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<v Speaker 5>A great example of this was in the Las Vegas race.

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<v Speaker 5>You had two drivers same team. You had Auckun and Ghasly,

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<v Speaker 5>and Ghasly was having trouble managing his tires. He got

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<v Speaker 5>graining and eventually fell all the way out of the

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<v Speaker 5>top ten, and it was little things like he was

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<v Speaker 5>going into corners in different gears.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand. I kind of have so much regulation I

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<v Speaker 1>was I boy.

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<v Speaker 5>So when I talk about the drivers and their ability

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<v Speaker 5>to manage things, it's being told things like, Okay, we

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<v Speaker 5>need you to use a different gear, we need you

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<v Speaker 5>to lift and coasts, we need you to manage in

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<v Speaker 5>this corner. And they're not talking about a lot. They're

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<v Speaker 5>talking about tens, hundreds, thousands of a percent. But they

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<v Speaker 5>can make literally the difference between finishing fourth or fifth

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<v Speaker 5>and finishing twelfth if you can do it or if

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<v Speaker 5>you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm intrigued by this. Oh good, because in other sport

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<v Speaker 1>oftentimes let's let's let's let's let's talk about tennis for

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<v Speaker 1>a second.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, there's a new one I know.

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<v Speaker 1>But the greatest player in the world maybe ever, Novak

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<v Speaker 1>Djokovic thirty six years old right now. Everyone he's competing

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<v Speaker 1>with is twenty twenty one, twenty two. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>things he does best is he utilizes his body and

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<v Speaker 1>his energy for the longest periods of time. So even

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<v Speaker 1>if he loses the first set early to a young

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<v Speaker 1>kid who's You're always like, watch out, dude, there's five

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<v Speaker 1>hours left in this guy's tank. And what you're telling

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<v Speaker 1>me is the best F one drivers manage their tire

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<v Speaker 1>the same way correct And how do they do that?

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<v Speaker 5>It's a learned skill. And yeah, I remember Hamilton back

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<v Speaker 5>in the day having a year or so where he

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<v Speaker 5>had to master the new Parali tire. They took him

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<v Speaker 5>about a year. But yeah, some drivers are much better

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<v Speaker 5>at sensing what they're doing to the tires, the slip angle,

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<v Speaker 5>the entry speed, you know how much breaking, what their

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<v Speaker 5>take out of the tires. And then you'll hear the

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<v Speaker 5>engineers be like, okay, push push, push when you get

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<v Speaker 5>near a pit stop, because then now you don't want

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<v Speaker 5>any life left on the tires when you get rid

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<v Speaker 5>of them, but you want them to last as long

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<v Speaker 5>as you need to for the strategy of your particular race.

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<v Speaker 5>Am I going to undercut the guy in front of me?

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<v Speaker 5>Am I protecting against something from behind me? Do I

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<v Speaker 5>think there's going to be a safety car? So you

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<v Speaker 5>see radically different tire strategies, and often they're based on

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<v Speaker 5>the abilities of the driver. If your driver's bad at

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<v Speaker 5>managing tires. And by bad, please understand that's an incredibly

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<v Speaker 5>relative bad. I couldn't do any of this. But if

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<v Speaker 5>your driver's bad, you might think, Okay, it's better for

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<v Speaker 5>us to aim for an extra pit stop and let

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<v Speaker 5>them just really go to town rather than ask them

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<v Speaker 5>to do something. They're not great at it, and it's

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<v Speaker 5>going to make them unhappy, and then there's still not

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<v Speaker 5>going to be great at it, so the strategy is

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<v Speaker 5>not going to work anyway, And so that can be

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes when you see same teams run different strategies with

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<v Speaker 5>different drivers. Is going to be down to their abilities,

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<v Speaker 5>and it can.

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<v Speaker 1>Change from track to track.

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes travers will have a good week, sometimes they'll have

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<v Speaker 5>a bad week, depending on on the types turns you have,

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<v Speaker 5>the type of asphalt you have, what particular compounds.

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<v Speaker 1>They've brought to the race. Oh, so many variables. I

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<v Speaker 1>know they look different, but as it made of the

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<v Speaker 1>same stuff, is just my road tires. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>makes them special? Well, they're not even special because they

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<v Speaker 1>obviously wear down so much faster than my tires.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, they look the same, but what makes them different

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<v Speaker 5>is the quality of the work. To a certain extent,

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<v Speaker 5>they're all handmade, they're not built on a machine line.

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<v Speaker 1>But the real.

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<v Speaker 5>Magic though, is on the top. It's the compounds, and

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<v Speaker 5>there you have your basic rubber, but you have an

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<v Speaker 5>unknown mix of chemicals added at certain intervals that give

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<v Speaker 5>it the consistency, the stickiness. So how soft is it,

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<v Speaker 5>how long does it last? And what you also have

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<v Speaker 5>n a raised tire often is you often have multiple

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<v Speaker 5>compounds and a tread. So, for example, the inside shoulders

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<v Speaker 5>of the tires will have a harder compound than the

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<v Speaker 5>outside shoulders, and that's because the tires designed to roll

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<v Speaker 5>over to that outside when it's taking all the weight

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<v Speaker 5>of the race car and a turn, so you need

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<v Speaker 5>it stickier there. But when they go down the streets

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<v Speaker 5>usually they're angled up a little bit, which is camber,

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<v Speaker 5>which means that you tend to do the most running

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<v Speaker 5>on that mid to inside part of the tire. So

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<v Speaker 5>they'll have different compounding across a tread, and they'll have

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<v Speaker 5>different ways of making that compound, which is which is

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<v Speaker 5>really an art and a magic and where a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of this performance will come from compounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what does that mean? A compound?

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<v Speaker 5>A compound is the combination of rubber plus the other

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<v Speaker 5>chemicals that make up the tread of the tire. So

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<v Speaker 5>in Formula one, they have at every race what they

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<v Speaker 5>call the soft, the medium, and the hard.

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<v Speaker 4>There's always a trade off, there's always for each tire compound,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a benefit and a trade off as in life.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye as in Mario Kart. Now you want the small,

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<v Speaker 1>little tiny character. He goes faster, but if he gets

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<v Speaker 1>knocked over, he flies out. Yeah, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I like that. I don't do Mario Kart. So

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<v Speaker 4>that's a good that's a good good knowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>Down for us.

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<v Speaker 4>So soft tires they wear out much faster, but they

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<v Speaker 4>allow you to go much faster as well. Copy and

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<v Speaker 4>you've got the medium, which is middle of rich. It's

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<v Speaker 4>your reliable tire. It neither goes faster nor does it

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<v Speaker 4>wear out faster. And then, as you can imagine, there's

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<v Speaker 4>the hard tire that performs less well but also lasts

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<v Speaker 4>a lot longer.

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<v Speaker 1>So will they start hard finish soft?

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<v Speaker 4>It depends on their strategy, also depends on how well

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<v Speaker 4>they did in qualifying.

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<v Speaker 1>Start hard to finish soft. But I just said that,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is.

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<v Speaker 4>Now coming right, and then we're not done because as

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<v Speaker 4>with all things Formula one, it's a lot more complicated.

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<v Speaker 5>They actually have C zero to see five. They have

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<v Speaker 5>sort of five different compounds, which is a various mix

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<v Speaker 5>of these tread chemicals that they will use depending upon

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<v Speaker 5>how damaging the asphalt is and how much energy is

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<v Speaker 5>being put into the tire. So the more damaging the asphalt,

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<v Speaker 5>the more energy Usually the harder the construction of tire

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<v Speaker 5>they will go with. And by harder, it's all relative.

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<v Speaker 5>None of these would last anywhere near anything you'd put.

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<v Speaker 1>On your road car.

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<v Speaker 4>And then we're not done because then there's the intermediate,

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<v Speaker 4>and then is the wet tires for whend it's absolutely

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<v Speaker 4>throwing it down.

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<v Speaker 1>What's intermediates.

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<v Speaker 4>That's when you use when it's slightly drizzling.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, for god's sake, it has a slightly drizzling tires,

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<v Speaker 1>it's raining tire.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the blue tie, and that's the green tire.

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<v Speaker 5>So the intermediates are the first step you go to

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<v Speaker 5>when it starts raining and you've lost too much performance

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<v Speaker 5>on the slicks. And then if it's a real deluge,

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<v Speaker 5>then you go to the full wet, which have tread

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<v Speaker 5>blocks and voids that look a lot like what you

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<v Speaker 5>see on your road car, and those again are mainly

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<v Speaker 5>to keep the cars from aqua planing and also to

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<v Speaker 5>clear what is like a bath hub a second per

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<v Speaker 5>tire of water from the track, because the real thing

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<v Speaker 5>that keeps people from racing is if there's too much

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<v Speaker 5>water on the track, the car's aquaplane then it's unsafe.

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<v Speaker 5>And you just got these really long, boring red flag periods.

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<v Speaker 5>So getting the cars out on the full wets and

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<v Speaker 5>clearing the track leads to racing again sooner.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, we need to take a quick pause and a

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<v Speaker 4>quick break, and then we're going to get into the

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<v Speaker 4>fascinating topic of tire rims.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, we are, We're going to really talk tires.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna talk times.

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<v Speaker 1>Great.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, back from a break, I feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Ready to dive into some rims.

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<v Speaker 4>They're the same for every car, same design, same material.

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<v Speaker 4>Interestingly enough, that wasn't always the case. It used to

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<v Speaker 4>be back in the day that the teams would create

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<v Speaker 4>their own rims. But similar to what we were talking

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<v Speaker 4>about in the previous episode, we realize that's actually not

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<v Speaker 4>where we want the teams to be focusing their time

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<v Speaker 4>and effort.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish every baseball player, I'd use the same beat.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I love that actually. Okay, so that's the first bit.

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<v Speaker 4>The second thing is the wheel covers. They're plastic. But

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<v Speaker 4>here's what's interesting about the wheel covers. Remember that episode

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<v Speaker 4>where we were talking about sponsors and advertisement. You could

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<v Speaker 4>have your face potentially on one of the wheel covers

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<v Speaker 4>that we didn't actually talk about. McClaren have maximized every

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<v Speaker 4>sponsorship opportunity in placement and they've actually got Google as

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<v Speaker 4>a sponsor, and so we've got the Google colors on

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<v Speaker 4>the rims. The wheel nuts, this is where it gets interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>They're unique to each team, so every team develops their

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<v Speaker 4>own wheel nuts. Every will not cost one thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 4>meaning that during a race weekend, teams can spend up

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<v Speaker 4>to fifty thousand dollars justin wheel nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a kick in the nuts. It's just funny that

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, hey, the rims were in charge of the rims.

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<v Speaker 1>No one else can mess with the rims, but nuts

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<v Speaker 1>have at it like it's.

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<v Speaker 4>The fact that Prairie looks after the rims helps the

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<v Speaker 4>flow of everything. The wheel nuts, the teams are actually

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<v Speaker 4>interacting with them as they change the tires. And so

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<v Speaker 4>if they're creating their own wheel guns and the wheel nuts,

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<v Speaker 4>it's easier for the team to look after that.

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<v Speaker 1>How many nuts are in a wheel? Tell me more

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<v Speaker 1>about the wheel nuts the wheel nuts.

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<v Speaker 4>It's actually a really interesting question because unlike road cars,

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<v Speaker 4>F one cars have just one wheel nut in the middle,

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<v Speaker 4>in the center. Again, to facilitate the changing of tires

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<v Speaker 4>during the pit stop. Here's a guess for you. I

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<v Speaker 4>had to change a tire on my own. I did

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<v Speaker 4>like a pit stop challenge with red Ball, and to

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<v Speaker 4>take off the tire with the gun, put it back on,

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<v Speaker 4>change it, et cetera. How long do you think that

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<v Speaker 4>took me?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, takes them two seconds. Yeah, so I would say

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<v Speaker 1>you are twice as bad as them. It's not for

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<v Speaker 1>any other reason other than you're just a one person.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would say four seconds. It was very bad.

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<v Speaker 4>It was bad fourteen seconds because I mean they're heavy.

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<v Speaker 4>Fourteen seven. Yeah, the wheels are really heavy, which is

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<v Speaker 4>but the wheel gun like that was insane. I did

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<v Speaker 4>not expect to have to put that much pressure and

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<v Speaker 4>take it off, which just it's nice to do these

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<v Speaker 4>small exercise you realize, just okay, you guys are doing

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<v Speaker 4>a pretty solid job. Here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at a wheel nut gun right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know what it looks like. It looks like some

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars. Shit. Yeah, it's really insane. And they must

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<v Speaker 1>all have their own wheel nut gun because they all

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<v Speaker 1>make their own wheel nuts. But they all must use

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<v Speaker 1>the same wheel nuts, don't they don't they kind of share.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems like a lot to all invent your own

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<v Speaker 1>wheel nut. Okay, so what else? We're not even finished

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<v Speaker 1>with the tires. The rim wheel covers wheel nut.

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<v Speaker 4>Should I continue? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's more.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, FIA sensors. We actually just got off talking. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>previous episode we talked at length about all the sensors

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<v Speaker 4>and all the data. There's actually FIA sensors inside of

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<v Speaker 4>the wheels that measures both the temperature and the pressure

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<v Speaker 4>of the wheels.

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<v Speaker 5>The teams themselves will run infrared sensors look at the

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<v Speaker 5>tire surfaces and see how they are doing that way.

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<v Speaker 5>They'll also run aerodynamics sensors because the tires I don't

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<v Speaker 5>need to tell you, no, wait, I do need to

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<v Speaker 5>tell you. The tires absolutely have a massive impact on

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<v Speaker 5>the aerodynamics of the car.

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<v Speaker 1>The front wheelwake will absolutely ruin.

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<v Speaker 5>Your downforce if you don't manage it, and the rear

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<v Speaker 5>if the sidewalls are too flexible, as Red Bull learned

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<v Speaker 5>in twenty thirteen, it will absolutely ruin your diffuser performance

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<v Speaker 5>and you will be nowhere because you get yes, i'm

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<v Speaker 5>gonna say it, tire squirt, where the babble of the

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<v Speaker 5>rear tire going around a turn sends air into your

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<v Speaker 5>diffuser and keeps it from working correctly.

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<v Speaker 4>And then there's something else, which is the barkut that

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<v Speaker 4>records all the places the tire has been around the

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<v Speaker 4>paddock if it's been used. It's helpful for both the

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<v Speaker 4>regulations safety, but it also helps even the commentators to

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<v Speaker 4>track which tire has been used if it's been used

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<v Speaker 4>multiple times. There's another thing that you will see, or

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<v Speaker 4>that you might not see tied to the tires, which

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<v Speaker 4>is have you ever heard of wheel weights?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so I'm going to botch this completely, but when

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<v Speaker 4>these like please do. When Perelli put the tires together

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<v Speaker 4>and prep all the tires for the teams, they make

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<v Speaker 4>sure that the tires are properly balanced, because no matter

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<v Speaker 4>how hard and perfect you try and make the rim

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<v Speaker 4>and the tire and when you put it together, they

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<v Speaker 4>might be off center and off balance ever so slightly.

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<v Speaker 4>So they have a machine that sensors where it's off

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<v Speaker 4>balance and it says it's off balanced by a gram

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<v Speaker 4>or two grams, and so you have these little wheelwights.

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<v Speaker 4>What's funny with this is the Queen of England used

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<v Speaker 4>to use the same thing in her dresses so that

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<v Speaker 4>they wouldn't fly up. And fun fact, two years ago,

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<v Speaker 4>when I was in the paddock in Austin, I was

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<v Speaker 4>wearing very bad mistake of short, flowy dress which got

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<v Speaker 4>me into trouble a few times with the wind. And

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<v Speaker 4>so one of my good friends who works at Preddie,

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<v Speaker 4>was just like, I think, I know exactly how I

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<v Speaker 4>can help you, and he ended up sticking wheel waits

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<v Speaker 4>at the bottom of my dress so it wouldn't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, another contribution of f one's technological advancements to our society,

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<v Speaker 1>to our society, which of course was stolen by the

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<v Speaker 1>Queen exact. Okay, well I think let me just offer

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<v Speaker 1>quick feedback. Yes, a lot is going into tires and

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<v Speaker 1>let me back it up. It's because the tires actually

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<v Speaker 1>touched the track. Wow, insightful, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Tires for me, are like the biggest paradox in Formula

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<v Speaker 4>one because it's the one thing that the teams have

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<v Speaker 4>honestly absolutely no can over, and yet it's the one

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<v Speaker 4>thing that actually touches the tarmac and the floor. And

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<v Speaker 4>when I say no control, they can obviously choose which

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<v Speaker 4>ties they use and when. But other than that, it's

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<v Speaker 4>all Parelli's doing. And I just think that is pretty

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<v Speaker 4>paradoxical and pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I invite every listener, yeah, to think about any time

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<v Speaker 1>they or a loved one of theirs did a physical

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<v Speaker 1>activity or a competitive activity, the emphasis and the time

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<v Speaker 1>they spent on their feet and footwear. There you go,

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<v Speaker 1>it's insane. You want to go hiking, There's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing you got to do for the feet and footwear.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a ballerina, if you're a soccer player, tennis players.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's like one year Shack didn't even play

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<v Speaker 1>basketball because he had turf toe feet are touching the

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<v Speaker 1>field of play and this is times four at three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred miles an hour or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 4>They go as an ex ballerina. I absolutely love.

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<v Speaker 1>That ex ballerina. Yea, and his feet are fucked up.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, Yeah. You know what's interesting also with the paler

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<v Speaker 4>with ballerinas is they make it look so effortless and

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<v Speaker 4>clean and easy, and then you realize it's everything but that.

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<v Speaker 4>And I feel like that's the same with like tire degradation,

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<v Speaker 4>as you look at it and go, this looks easy.

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<v Speaker 4>That you know, the cars look like they're gliding on

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<v Speaker 4>the tarmac, and then when you look closer you go oh,

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<v Speaker 4>which I also think is where it's worth like giving

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<v Speaker 4>praise to the Parreli garage, which honestly is just as

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<v Speaker 4>busy during a race weekend and every other of the

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<v Speaker 4>team garages. There's thirty people there that are Prelli tired

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<v Speaker 4>technicians and experts that are doing everything that they can

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<v Speaker 4>to make sure they're delivering to each team the best

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<v Speaker 4>tires possible and imaginable.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me stop you right there. You keep mentioning Perrelli. Ye,

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<v Speaker 1>you keep saying this as if I'm supposed to know

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<v Speaker 1>what you're talking about. Okay, Prelli. I've just looked at

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<v Speaker 1>all the teams. There's no Perrelli there. What's Perrelli?

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<v Speaker 4>You've got to know who Parrelli is important. It is important.

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<v Speaker 4>They are important, so Parelli is currently F one's sole

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<v Speaker 4>tire provider, and they've been the only exclusive tie provider

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<v Speaker 4>for Formula One since twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 5>They make all of the tires for all of the

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<v Speaker 5>Formula One teams according to a brief provided to them

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<v Speaker 5>by the FIA, with input from the teams and Formula

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<v Speaker 5>One as well, and they will occasionally show up with

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<v Speaker 5>new tires to be tested after certain races because it's

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<v Speaker 5>for them, just like the teams, a constant development were

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<v Speaker 5>to stay on top of the needs as the teams

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<v Speaker 5>themselves get faster and add more downforce.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened before, and you could just drive any tire

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<v Speaker 1>you want to.

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<v Speaker 4>You're back with us at the brick yond the Superspeedway.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a point out which was completely.

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<v Speaker 1>Wild, chaos, confusion rangs.

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<v Speaker 4>For those listeners who have never heard of the very

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<v Speaker 4>sad two thousand and five USA Formula one stop, can

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<v Speaker 4>you give us a quick story time, a quick debrief?

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<v Speaker 4>What do we need to know about that?

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<v Speaker 5>It's really a pretty simple story. There were two constructors

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<v Speaker 5>in at the time, one of them was Michelin.

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<v Speaker 3>It's easy to see the arguments on both sides from

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<v Speaker 3>Michelin's point of view, they knew from Friday and those

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<v Speaker 3>accidents that they had a problem.

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<v Speaker 5>When you race at Indianapolis, you run a section of

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<v Speaker 5>the oval banking. Yeah, and what happened was the Michelin tires,

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<v Speaker 5>two of them, had already failed on the banking at

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<v Speaker 5>the speeds the cars were running.

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<v Speaker 7>The teams have been told categorically that they cannot go

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<v Speaker 7>through that final turn thirteen full throttle.

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<v Speaker 5>So for the start of the Grand Prix, everybody started

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<v Speaker 5>out on the formation lap and then all of the

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<v Speaker 5>Michelin runners.

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<v Speaker 3>It comes alongside World Championship leading.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, our plan is for the stop straight.

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<v Speaker 5>Mike drove into the pits and didn't race, which left

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<v Speaker 5>five cars on the grid, and it was an embarrassing

0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:49.280
<v Speaker 5>spectacle for the sport.

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<v Speaker 3>Just listen to the crowd there.

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<v Speaker 8>Stune where stunned.

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<v Speaker 5>And it also was a huge black eye to Formula

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<v Speaker 5>One in the United States when there was beginning to

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<v Speaker 5>be a little bubble of interest.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when I arrived at the track this morning, the

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<v Speaker 3>PA system was playing hit the Road, Jack and don't

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<v Speaker 3>you come back no more? And I have a feeling that

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<v Speaker 3>will be the message from Indianapolis Motor Speedway and the

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<v Speaker 3>American public to Formula one after the fast that we

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<v Speaker 3>witnessed here today.

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<v Speaker 5>The eyeballs of Americans have long been a target for

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<v Speaker 5>the people running Formula one, and that did not help

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:24.160
<v Speaker 5>them at all.

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<v Speaker 4>What kind of message is they're sending out to people

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<v Speaker 4>about Formula.

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<v Speaker 1>One only I'm sorry? Right there are the message.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry for the public, I'm sorry for the spectator,

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<v Speaker 4>and sorry for the people at your TV.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>So that, in essence is what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>You think what Formula one has realized because of the

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<v Speaker 4>paradox that I'm saying, are Formula one it's better to

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<v Speaker 4>have one tire provider, basically unlike the power units where

0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 4>different teams are competing on power units. And again, like

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<v Speaker 4>we've talked about, there are certain aspects of the sport

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<v Speaker 4>where they decide, you know what, having everyone on the

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<v Speaker 4>same footing, using the same thing makes sense, and there's

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<v Speaker 4>other times we're just like we want them. So clearly

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<v Speaker 4>it's like a tire wall right now, but on the

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<v Speaker 4>same tires with the same tools, versus let's fight on

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<v Speaker 4>tires as well.

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<v Speaker 5>In the cold, harsh light of reality. The last thing

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<v Speaker 5>Formula one needs is any kind.

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<v Speaker 6>Of a tire war.

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<v Speaker 5>And that goes back to the basic fact of tires,

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<v Speaker 5>which is they are the single biggest performance differentiator you

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<v Speaker 5>can have. So if I'm Perelli and your Michelin and

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<v Speaker 5>your Michelin tires aren't good enough, I'm crushing you by

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<v Speaker 5>laps per race.

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<v Speaker 1>And people have complained. I've heard it.

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<v Speaker 5>People have complained about how boring this season was, and

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<v Speaker 5>that's just because one team had better aerodynamics. Imagine if

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<v Speaker 5>you could add five seconds a lap to Max's performance,

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<v Speaker 5>how exciting would the season be?

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<v Speaker 3>Then?

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<v Speaker 5>And you've got your answer right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it true that one of the biggest mistakes in

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<v Speaker 1>the history of Formula one was when has tried to

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<v Speaker 1>use a square shaped tire? What's going on, Michael focus,

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<v Speaker 1>geez does having these different types of tires? Is this?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this an exciting part of the sport? But is

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<v Speaker 1>that fun to like me? Or is that fun to

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<v Speaker 1>Tony who's a tire nerd? Because I could also see

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<v Speaker 1>like you just say, look, everybody, everybody's shut up. You

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>get mediums who can drive the fastest.

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<v Speaker 5>If you think it's exciting to watch someone three or

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<v Speaker 5>four seconds behind the leader ten laps from the end,

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:33.120
<v Speaker 5>going faster and potentially fast enough to catch them before

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 5>they get to the end of the race. Then yes,

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 5>you want this kind of tire strategy. If, on the

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 5>other hand, you think that's boring and you just want

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:45.879
<v Speaker 5>to see F one drivers drive slowly around a track

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:49.439
<v Speaker 5>so their tires don't go pop, then what you're asking

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 5>for is what you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>No, it's incredibly when they get it right, When the

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 5>compounds are right and a one stop strategy and a

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 5>two stop strategy are about the same pace and throwing

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<v Speaker 5>the odd safety car, it's incredible exciting.

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<v Speaker 4>We used to refuel during pit stops. The only thing

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 4>we now do with pit stops is more or less

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 4>change the tires. If we took out the pit stops,

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:12.639
<v Speaker 4>you are taking out such a crucial element. And the

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:14.920
<v Speaker 4>only reason they do the pit stops is to get

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<v Speaker 4>on different tires. Formula is actually having an issue right

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:22.199
<v Speaker 4>now where their cars have become so powerful that they

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<v Speaker 4>don't need to be recharged during a race. It used

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<v Speaker 4>to be in formulate the first I think one or

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<v Speaker 4>two or three seasons where they would swap cars mid

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 4>race because they didn't hadn't yet created a battery with

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<v Speaker 4>a lifespan that could do a full race, So you

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 4>have these wild pictures of a car coming into jumping, unbuckling,

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:40.880
<v Speaker 4>coming out of the car, jumping into another car.

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<v Speaker 1>Is what I do with my electric leaf Flower one

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 1>battery because they're too expensive, so I have to like

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<v Speaker 1>do half the lawn and then plug it in.

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 4>And and then you have to come back.

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm like imagining Michael, your wife waiting for you, like.

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>With the battery, go go go.

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<v Speaker 4>So I just yeah, it's the It adds, but you

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<v Speaker 4>might appreciate it adds a very human element in sport

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<v Speaker 4>because the pit stops are twenty people, four people on

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 4>each wheel, and it's humans excelling for two seconds and

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<v Speaker 4>doing the best. So it adds that human element where

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<v Speaker 4>just about anything could go wrong during a pitstop.

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<v Speaker 1>Love it any pushback we have on robots controlling everything.

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I love a nice human element.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought you don't.

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<v Speaker 8>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I've been doing some googling, yeah, or blinging.

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure who what is it called bing been doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Particularly have not been binging. I see these little blankets, okay,

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 1>let's call them. You know what they look like to me.

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>In hockey, when you're not using your skates, you put

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 1>those guards over the skate. I'm seeing these big, strong

0:29:56.120 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>alpha men putting little hats and the tires. What's up?

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<v Speaker 1>What's up with that?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so they're called tile a protection. No, they're just

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<v Speaker 4>there to warm so truly, like if you had your

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 4>teapot and you had your cozy the teapot the only

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<v Speaker 4>job of the tea company.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing this, but I don't think Americans have that

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<v Speaker 1>cozy teapot.

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to say it's the most British thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I explain this to people who don't know what

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>The Brits love tea.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, the rise in popularity of tea between the seventeenth

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 7>and nineteenth centuries and major social, political, and economic implication.

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<v Speaker 1>Not getting into their whole history with the country of Indiana.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're not going that far back. The one thing

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 4>they love more than a cup of tea is a

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 4>little pot of tea. Yes, I feel like I've become

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<v Speaker 4>more British in the extreme.

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 1>But I'm asking now because I do love this part

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 1>of the British.

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<v Speaker 4>So they have a pot of tea, and they have

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<v Speaker 4>like what they call a cozy.

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<v Speaker 7>Traditionally made of cloth, the tea cozy insulates a teapot,

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<v Speaker 7>keeping the contents warm. Their use predates the invention of

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 7>vacuum flasks as a means of keeping hot liquids hot.

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<v Speaker 7>The first documented use of a tea cozy in Britain

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<v Speaker 7>was in eighteen sixty seven. It is probably the Duchess

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 7>of Bedford who, by establishing the activity of afternoon tea

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<v Speaker 7>in eighteen forty, would have brought the popularity of the

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<v Speaker 7>tea cozy during the Victorian era.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, thank you, JOHI. That was actually a valuable contribution.

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<v Speaker 1>For once. I'm going to pull up a picture of

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<v Speaker 1>a tea cozy. I'm gonna see what this thing looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's take a little winter hat.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a little winter hat that covers the whole teapot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so cute, everybody, if you're not on if you're

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 1>not blinging it right now, you gotta see these British

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 1>little winter hats for their teacup teapots. It's very cute.

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:49.040
<v Speaker 1>This feels like a rhyme for kids, yes, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>essentially what I'm seeing on these tires.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's exactly that. And you could call them. You've

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 4>got options here, Michael, so you could call them tire

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 4>warmers or tire black kids, so you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they plugged in or anything.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't just plug the blankets in. They cycle them

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<v Speaker 5>up and down and up and down based on what

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:07.959
<v Speaker 5>they think will make the tire most perform it when

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 5>they finally screw it onto the car and send it

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<v Speaker 5>out of the pit lane.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, not because of the rules, but because of the

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 1>optimal performance.

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 4>Exactly.

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 1>They know so much.

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 4>So cold tires is the enemy of Formula One. When

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 4>they line up on the grid ready for the race

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 4>to begin, they still have everything, the blankets on. When

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 4>you have, for example, the safety car or virtual safety car,

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:35.520
<v Speaker 4>that's when you see the cars weaving like crazy behind

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 4>the safety car. It's to keep those tires warm.

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Warm them up, becauction them exactly called friction. Everybody, look

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 1>it up.

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<v Speaker 4>Look it up. But here's an interesting thing with the

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 4>tie blankets. There was a plan that in twenty twenty

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 4>four we were going to get rid of tie blankets altogether.

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 5>The only reason to ban the blankets and the warmers

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 5>is for sustainability reasons. And I've had arguments with my

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 5>coho about this. But the warmers themselves chew up a

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 5>lot of electricity, they are heavy, and they have to

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 5>be shipped all over the world.

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 1>This is like a plastic straw situation.

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 3>Like you know.

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, no one has taken down any of the big

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 1>oil companies, but I have to not use the plastic

0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>straw right right, right right. People will poop poo it.

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 5>But it is a significant sustainability step. And it's also

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 5>what I like to call low hanging fruit. It's not

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 5>the hardest thing in the world to do. It's a

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 5>thing that can be done now and will make a

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 5>measurable difference in terms of the sports overall carbon footprint.

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<v Speaker 5>But what you have is the teams, just like the drivers.

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 5>The teams don't like anything they don't control, and they

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 5>don't like anything to change once they've figured out how

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 5>to control it. And this is a really big change.

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I will say, when it comes to environment and climate change.

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<v Speaker 1>So many companies, including f one, you know, it's more

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 1>to them, more important about the actual optics than actually

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:09.360
<v Speaker 1>doing it. But there's not going to be any races

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:12.360
<v Speaker 1>if we're all on fire, because we're so hot, so

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe we should start taking it seriously.

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:16.320
<v Speaker 4>True, And you know what else is true? There's not

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 4>going to be a part if we can't sell out.

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 4>So quick break and we'll be right back. You want

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 4>to do it together?

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, two three and we're back. What percentage of the

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:31.280
<v Speaker 1>team radio conversation is about tires?

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 8>Is it a lot?

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 5>Everything that's not complaining about another driver's ability to drive

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 5>their car, it's all about tires. P.

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<v Speaker 8>Eighty is very stupping with soft than we have in

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 8>front of him, album En Riquardo and behind we have

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 8>a stroll with medium and crane a turn seven, so

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 8>be careful there.

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 5>We'll need you to lift and coast through here. We

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 5>need a lower apex speed here is so so much

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<v Speaker 5>of it is just about managing the car, getting the

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<v Speaker 5>car to perform the way the driver wants so that

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<v Speaker 5>they can manage the tires.

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<v Speaker 4>Some drivers also are very sneaky, knowing that people listen

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<v Speaker 4>to the team that radio digital Like my there's that

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<v Speaker 4>running joke with Solwis, Hamilton and Bono his engineers like

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<v Speaker 4>the big trouble guys, My tires are giving up and

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<v Speaker 4>everyone's like, you just did the fastest lap what are

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<v Speaker 4>you saying? Your tire? And so there's this whole conspiracy

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<v Speaker 4>that every time that Lewis said my tires are giving up,

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<v Speaker 4>they're just like he's a peak tire performance. That's what's

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<v Speaker 4>happening right now behind He's on my ass. You don't

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<v Speaker 4>say that some cars are notoriously harder quote unquote on

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<v Speaker 4>the tires.

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<v Speaker 6>Guess which which cars are really bad at preserving their tires?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't say ferrari. I wish I could go back and

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<v Speaker 1>change everything. Oh dear, all right, So every team uses

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<v Speaker 1>the same tires. That's something I think I have to emphasize, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone gets the same tire, correct? Can they go through

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<v Speaker 1>as many of them as they want? No, you only

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<v Speaker 1>get so many of the same tire. It's like everyone

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<v Speaker 1>gets their ration.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, that's a great way of putting it.

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<v Speaker 5>They get thirteen sets of tires over the weekend, six

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<v Speaker 5>four and three, so you get six offts, four mediums

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<v Speaker 5>and three cards. So you have to manage those because

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<v Speaker 5>you need to run them to know how your car

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<v Speaker 5>is working on track. But you also want fresh tires

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<v Speaker 5>for your race, especially for the qualifying, So which tires

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<v Speaker 5>you use in practice? Those tires give you data. Data

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<v Speaker 5>is super useful to teams, but once you've used that set,

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<v Speaker 5>then they are not useful to you. And then after

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<v Speaker 5>every practice session and after qualifying, you have to return

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<v Speaker 5>some of those tires.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a couple of additional rules, such as every driver

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<v Speaker 4>has to use at least two different types of compound

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<v Speaker 4>during a race, which again as to that strategic element.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's also part of the pit stop, like you're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna have. Even if that wasn't a rule, teams have

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<v Speaker 4>to do the pit stop. They also have to change compounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they have to pit Yes. It blows my mind

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<v Speaker 1>that they will reuse a tire. It's like looking through

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<v Speaker 1>the bag for you know, something that's still available?

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<v Speaker 4>What else is anywhere Mary Poppins on her bag. You're

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<v Speaker 4>just like, I'm sure there's something at.

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<v Speaker 1>The bottom can help us.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but you bring up a great, great question or

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<v Speaker 4>a great nuance, which is you can reuse them over

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<v Speaker 4>the space of a weekend. But after that weekend, each

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<v Speaker 4>team will bring their tires back to the Paradie garage,

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<v Speaker 4>back to the Pretti station. Their whole job is basically

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<v Speaker 4>to take all the tires off, the rims, clean the rims,

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<v Speaker 4>X rayder rims and send the rims back to the teams.

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<v Speaker 1>X ray the rims, X rayder rims.

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<v Speaker 4>They have a look at if there's any degradation, what

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<v Speaker 4>happened to them? Tie all of that stuff, and then

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<v Speaker 4>they take all of the tires. They're gonna get basically destroyed,

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<v Speaker 4>whether they've been used or not, except for the intermediate

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<v Speaker 4>tires and the wet tires. Those if they haven't been used,

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<v Speaker 4>the teams get to keep them, but in the slick tires,

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<v Speaker 4>so those three compounds do not get used ever again,

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<v Speaker 4>even if they weren't used during the race weekend. So

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<v Speaker 4>if a driver crashes in lap one and he didn't

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<v Speaker 4>use any of their tires, those get destroyed and we

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<v Speaker 4>used funnily enough or fun fact, they.

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<v Speaker 5>Get sent back to the factory. They get dissected, taken

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<v Speaker 5>apart and analyzed, and they get run through a shredder

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<v Speaker 5>and recycled into various projects.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds like that that doesn't really happen. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that really happens. I think they say that as

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<v Speaker 1>a nice headline.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it kind of makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe a little bit, but there's no way

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<v Speaker 1>destroying eight sets of brand new tires, is gonna like

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<v Speaker 1>recycle itself back to okayness in the environment.

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<v Speaker 4>Solid point.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I hear them talking about scrubbed tires, Yeah, what's that.

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<v Speaker 4>They generally scrub the tires. They have a little equipment

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<v Speaker 4>tool and you actually see videos that some people call

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<v Speaker 4>ASMR very satisfying videos where you will see them actually

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<v Speaker 4>scraping what's on top of the tire. There's a reason

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<v Speaker 4>that the tires pick up a lot of things on

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<v Speaker 4>the racetrack, and there's two reasons for that. You might

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<v Speaker 4>often hear commentators at the end of a race saying,

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<v Speaker 4>pick up the marbles. Pick up the marbles. What they

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<v Speaker 4>mean by that is all the little pieces of rubber

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<v Speaker 4>degradiation that sits on the side of the track at

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the race. If the car feels too light,

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<v Speaker 4>they will pick up as much tire rubber aspects that

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<v Speaker 4>have fallen off the tires to add weight to the

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<v Speaker 4>tires so that when the car gets weighed at the

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<v Speaker 4>end of the race, it is as heavy as it

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<v Speaker 4>needs to because there's a minimum weight restriction with these

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<v Speaker 4>cars and the drivers insane. So if you pick up

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<v Speaker 4>all the marbles.

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<v Speaker 1>Drive over more stuff, so the car weighs more.

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<v Speaker 4>So the car weighs more, which then if you're planning

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<v Speaker 4>on using that tire again, then it needs to be cleaned.

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<v Speaker 4>But they also clean and scrub the tires at the end,

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<v Speaker 4>because again there's data to get picked up of that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's useful information. It's learning how the tires have degregated

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<v Speaker 4>over time. Like, there's all of that aspect that comes

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<v Speaker 4>into it.

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<v Speaker 6>So I was just, uh, I was just fact checking

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<v Speaker 6>Tony's claim about scrubbing tires creating an as MR sensation.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>And I just love to get your feedback. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna play you a little something.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that all right? I hope I don't go from

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<v Speaker 1>soft to hard? All right?

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<v Speaker 6>Tell me, tell me if you can hear this and

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<v Speaker 6>if it's h A S m R and you.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a scrub being scrubbed.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's more visual pleasing exercise.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a good as MR. I'll show you a

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<v Speaker 1>guy on TikTok that chops carrots with a SMR and

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh carrots, yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>H h.

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<v Speaker 4>So Michael, final thoughts. I know you were somewhat excited

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<v Speaker 4>coming into this episode. Ah, you fashioning yourself a tire ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Have I put you off?

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<v Speaker 1>No, You've not put me off, Tony. If anything, You've

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<v Speaker 1>put me on to tires, and I could see this

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<v Speaker 1>is cool, This is cool. The managing of the tire

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<v Speaker 1>is a very important task. And it may not snap

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<v Speaker 1>me out of bed in the morning when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to F one, but I think this is a really

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<v Speaker 1>integral part and I find it interesting and without a doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to get some slick Pirelli tires on my

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<v Speaker 1>family Volvo.

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<v Speaker 4>Huh, yeah, that's gonna great, look for.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I want in my life? Tell me

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<v Speaker 1>I want my life to be one of those well

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<v Speaker 1>managed tires on a championship car. Okay, A lot of

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:10.959
<v Speaker 1>people right now don't know what the fuck I'm talking about,

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 1>but I know I want to manage it well. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to just be like, oh, fifth, I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>my fifties, life is over. No, no, no, we still

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<v Speaker 1>got some good tires left it. You know, sixties still

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<v Speaker 1>got a good tires left. Maybe my twenties I didn't

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 1>go as fast as I need to do because but

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>my seventies I'm kicking ass right now, do you get it?

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<v Speaker 6>I actually really like that. It's like you want to

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<v Speaker 6>use everything up and get to the end.

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 1>And you'll still be spraying the non champagne fizzy white wine.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think tire episode was cool, and I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>how many podcasts in the Internet even devoted entire episode

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<v Speaker 1>two tires.

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<v Speaker 6>They're probably whole podcasts devoted to F one tires.

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<v Speaker 1>Cold Tires would be a good name too. It's funny

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<v Speaker 1>to think of like Caveman inventing wheel and now where

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<v Speaker 1>we're at with these tires that you know humanity as

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<v Speaker 1>wild man.

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<v Speaker 2>This has been Choosing Science f one, a production of

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<v Speaker 1>Tony. What do we have next week?

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<v Speaker 4>Next week on Choosing Sides one, we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about the logistition. So there's a lot of focus in

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<v Speaker 4>F one that goes into the drivers, the speed, the money,

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<v Speaker 4>the glitz, the glamour, the tires. Yes, and the tires

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<v Speaker 4>all true, all good or well. But to me, one

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<v Speaker 4>of the true marvels of this sport, and I say

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<v Speaker 4>this dead series is its logistics. These are the true

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<v Speaker 4>unsung heroes of this sports. It's the F one operations

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<v Speaker 4>and logistical managers or logistics managers on the teams, but

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<v Speaker 4>also with their partners like the HL.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to devote an episode to the legit

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:01.040
<v Speaker 1>stics of F one.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, the traveling circus, how they get from point eight

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<v Speaker 4>to b and they do it twenty three times a

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<v Speaker 4>year and without fail, every single component arise on time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's wild.

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<v Speaker 4>If you thought the tire conversation was interesting, yeah, wait

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<v Speaker 4>until we hear about the logistics of the sport

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<v Speaker 2>Waiting for you,