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Speaker 1: dot com. Okay, turning now to the intelligence connections. We've

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Speaker 1: collated all of the most important stuff and we're going

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Speaker 1: to lead off with an extraordinary bit of audio in

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Speaker 1: which Epstein appears to have secretly recorded a meeting between

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Speaker 1: himself and between Aide Barock, the former Prime Minister of Israel,

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Speaker 1: talking here to Aid Barock specifically about the company Palanteer.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 3: He thought there was two cyber companies look at and

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Speaker 3: even though I know Peed ever met Peter tal and

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Speaker 3: everybody says he sort of jumps around and.

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Speaker 4: Actually strange like a drugs smoking Yeah, he looks.

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Speaker 3: However, he is a company called Pallenteer.

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Speaker 5: P A l l E n.

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Speaker 3: T E t I E R Palenteers, Peter Tal's company.

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Speaker 4: And look out t p A n A n t

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Speaker 4: I L Yes, how I T t h I.

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Speaker 5: T h I E l l l y no p

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Speaker 5: t h I e l l okay.

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Speaker 3: So he thought that Peter would put you on the

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Speaker 3: board of Pallenteer. Peter Tal is one of the best.

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Speaker 3: I've never met him. He's going to come here next week,

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Speaker 3: so I wanted to talk to him and talk to you.

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Speaker 3: He and Andreason. It's called Andres and Horowitz. And that's

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Speaker 3: what they pay Larry a million dollars a year just

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Speaker 3: to advice and A N.

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Speaker 1: D R E E.

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Speaker 3: S O N Andreasen and Horowitz.

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Speaker 4: And how would h O R O Horrowitz horror. Well, there,

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Speaker 4: low beast.

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Speaker 3: What they are the biggest venture capital people in Silicon Valley,

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Speaker 3: bigger than plan These are the these these are the

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Speaker 3: new klan of Perkins everybody. These are the smart boys. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so those two companies right away in terms of I

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Speaker 3: said that we need now in the next three weeks

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Speaker 1: Leave very important. Find that. And then that was from

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Speaker 1: a multiple hour clip. So I don't even know who

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Speaker 1: went through that. Props to whoever did, but you can

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Speaker 1: see there Epstein advising Ayud Barock. Aid Brock is the

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Speaker 1: former Prime Minister of Israel is also a former head

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Speaker 1: of military intelligence. Founded a security company which of course

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Speaker 1: was invested in by Jeffrey Epstein, which has long been

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Speaker 1: a suspected intelligence Mosad potential connection. Let's continue spelling the spelling.

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Speaker 6: They're all the spelling extraordinary, disastrous.

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Speaker 1: But I mean that's part of the crazy part is

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Speaker 1: literally an imbecile. At least from what we could see here.

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Speaker 1: He was just good at one thing, and that one

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Speaker 1: course his own disgusting predilections. Let's go to the next one.

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Speaker 1: I found this actually in the files. This is an

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Speaker 1: exchange between aud Barock and Epstein. I'll set the stage.

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Speaker 1: This is ahead of a meeting with a Katari investment

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Speaker 1: fund and he says, Hi, Jeff, are you going to

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Speaker 1: should make clear I don't work for Masad smiley face.

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Speaker 1: Aude Brock says you or I question mark, and Epstein

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Speaker 1: should make clear, by the ways, completely unprompted ahead of

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Speaker 1: a meeting apparently with the Kataris for a major investment deal,

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Speaker 1: where he's like, hey, just make clear that I don't

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Speaker 2: Well, and Ryan made the comment here He's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: It's more like Massad works for him, right, Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: it's pretty crazy that you're even foiaing the CIA back

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Speaker 1: where many of us who have been researching and studying

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Speaker 1: ability to move money around Steve Hoffenberg and the prior

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Speaker 1: some sort of intelligent connection might have gotten him the

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Speaker 1: The Foyer record from nineteen ninety nine, prior to any conviction,

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Speaker 1: going to acknowledge anyway, even in some sort of a foila.

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Speaker 1: many years, going back almost you have more than twenty

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I mean, if you think about it, you know,

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Speaker 2: you're the CIA. You don't really want people to know

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Speaker 2: you're connecting with Jevery Epstein for a variety of reasons,

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Speaker 2: and so could very well have been, you know, a

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Speaker 2: little shot across the bow of you know, hey, this

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Speaker 2: and so I'm just sending this in so that you

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Speaker 2: could have been almost like a threat. And we know

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Speaker 2: the way he operates, right this very manipulative, very strategic

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Speaker 2: sending himself all those emails into his inbox about various

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Speaker 2: dirty secrets of the billionaires and other elites.

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Speaker 6: That he knows.

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Speaker 2: This could have been similar type behavior like a threat

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Speaker 2: aimed at the apparatus of the CIA.

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Speaker 1: Right. The other reason why I think it's very important

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Speaker 1: is that we know from the CIA's behavior. I talked

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Speaker 1: involved like say c SAM material, Okay, what they would

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Speaker 6: Why.

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Speaker 1: Because they can never have their agents go into open court.

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Speaker 1: They're terrified because they don't want their sensitive material to

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Speaker 1: ever be released, let's say, in an open trial, because

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Speaker 1: that would be public. So almost certainly what we know

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Speaker 1: in multiple cases, they would pressure the DOJ and the FBI.

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Speaker 1: They go, guys, I know this is heinous. We need

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Speaker 1: to strike a complete deal. This cannot go to trial.

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Speaker 1: This guy needs to go to federal prison and in exchange,

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Speaker 1: potential of the sweetheart deal. But I do think the

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Speaker 1: FOIA is one of the most important for our own intelligence.

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Speaker 1: where Epstein emails. You can see the Russian there. He says,

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Speaker 1: how are you? I need a favor. There is a

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Speaker 1: She's Russian. The guy's email, he's Russian. I need some

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Speaker 1: So this is literally like mob talk. Well, if you

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Speaker 1: which prepares Russian intelligence officers. At the Dossier Center discovered

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Speaker 1: meetings with multiple like senior officials inside of Russia. For

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Speaker 1: his part, Epstein would then advise him on saving the

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Speaker 1: I need some suggestions. According to Epstein, the powerful men

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, let's put the next one up on the

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein was represented by Alan Dershowitz Confidential Human source HS.

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Speaker 6: When he had no credittions or business getting.

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Speaker 1: Is this so all just normalized that everybody's in their

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Speaker 1: underwear or like standing over girls in like a creepy

433
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Speaker 1: and a threatening manner, and you're just so like just

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Speaker 1: you just assume you're in a safe space that this

435
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Speaker 1: stuff will never be able to come out. I mean,

436
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Speaker 1: that's that's really what comes through in the emails and

437
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Speaker 1: all the creepy way that they talk to each other,

438
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Speaker 1: that birthday book, and all the creepy stuff that they

439
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Speaker 1: would refer to there the horror section, which we'll get to,

440
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Speaker 1: you know, in a bit, where again, you know, they're

441
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Speaker 1: just like photographing and videoing themselves, like chasing girls around,

442
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Speaker 1: and you know, I'm in compromising positions, and nobody ever

443
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Speaker 1: thought for a second like hey, I'm literally a member

444
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Speaker 1: of the House of Lords, Like I shouldn't even be

445
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Speaker 1: doing that. Not only should I not be doing this,

446
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Speaker 1: I shouldn't be doing this on camera? Like what what

447
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Speaker 1: was happening here? Like inside of this I'm I do

448
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Speaker 1: not understand.

449
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Speaker 2: That that particular photo, it appears it could have been

450
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Speaker 2: taken surreptitiously. Possibly, but some of the other like the

451
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Speaker 2: Andrew Prince Andrew ones he's closing in this disgusting way

452
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Speaker 2: for the camera and clearly knows that his photos is

453
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Speaker 2: being taken the one we showed earlier of like or

454
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Speaker 2: of like just some gross dude, or maybe we have

455
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Speaker 2: that leader in the show and anyway, some gross dude

456
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Speaker 2: like with two girls there. I mean, there's a bunch

457
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Speaker 2: of these where it's like they know they're on. I

458
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Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know what that is all about,

459
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Speaker 2: but it's really it's really something. This next one is

460
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Speaker 2: very weird too, involves the Crown Prince of Norway put

461
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Speaker 2: this up on the skirt. So asking Jeffrey Epstein for

462
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Speaker 2: parenting advice about showing her fifteen year old son naked women,

463
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Speaker 2: literally asking Epstein, is it inappropriate for a mother to

464
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Speaker 2: suggest two naked women carrying a surfboard for my fifteen.

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Speaker 6: Year old son's wallpaper?

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Speaker 1: Yes? What?

467
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Speaker 2: Like? First of all, yes, where does one even procure

468
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Speaker 2: such bizarre wallpaper? Number two, the person you choose to

469
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: ask about this in twenty twelve is a convicted sex offender. Like,

470
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Speaker 2: what what is happening? Unbelievable unbelievable stuff here?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he said let them decide. Mothers should stay

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Speaker 1: out of it. Really Yeah, I don't think so. I

473
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Speaker 1: think mom should have it.

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Speaker 4: One.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fifteen years old, still very young. Mom still should

476
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Speaker 2: be in charge there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, got it. Let's continue here. This is this

478
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Speaker 1: one that is actually pretty interesting. So emails show that

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Speaker 1: Epstein had conducted business in twenty sixteen within Manuel Macrone,

480
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Speaker 1: who was then the Minister of the Economy, and then

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Speaker 1: separate emails described macarone a quote allegedly seeking Epstein's help

482
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Speaker 1: with governance and public relations after he had already become

483
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Speaker 1: the French president. So you could see a little bit there.

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Speaker 1: For example, Tom Pritzker, they say, would like to direct

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Speaker 1: connect with someone in Macron? Is this doable? And they

486
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Speaker 1: say yes, I think so, I will ask my father

487
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Speaker 1: and return to you. So he's working on behalf of

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Speaker 1: apparently from some of his friends. And then he passages

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Speaker 1: on a message from Macrone. We believe that we need

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Speaker 1: to rethink, rebuild an event, governance and format of international institutions.

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Speaker 1: He passes on basically some sort of quote back in

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, and then also saying Jacques is having dinner

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Speaker 1: with Macron today, so timing is perfect to Tom Pritzker,

494
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Speaker 1: who is an American billionaire by the way, related to

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Speaker 1: the governor Illinois, the Pritzker family. And then in another

496
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Speaker 1: one from the sultan beenstam to Epstein says, had a

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Speaker 1: lunch at Eliz Palace, had a nice minister, a conversation

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Speaker 1: with French Minister of Economy, mister Macrone, regarding our business

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Speaker 1: in France. This same Dubai Sultan is somebody who has

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Speaker 1: been reported on by Ryan and by Mortaza Saint over

501
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Speaker 1: at drop site and his connection to the Dubai port.

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Speaker 1: So you can see where all of the connections.

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Speaker 2: There's also another layer with mccron because he met his

504
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: now wife when he was fifteen. Now they deny any

505
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Speaker 2: sexual contact until he was of age, et cetera, but

506
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Speaker 2: entirely possible that he was himself groomed as a child.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, yeah, welcome to candas thought. And it is

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Speaker 1: a famous Yeah yeah, this is the origin of candas thought.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the next one. Let's put this up

510
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Speaker 1: here on the screen. This was from Epstein and Bannon's

511
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Speaker 1: text messages back in twenty nineteen. He says, now at

512
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Speaker 1: the pyramid with the entire government, what are your plans? Macrone?

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Speaker 1: Government question question yep the ministers of the elite, he says,

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Speaker 1: I mean, remember this is three March twenty ninth two

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Speaker 1: thoy and nineteen. Look, I haven't seen any message or

516
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Speaker 1: denying any of this yet from the Macron government. We'll

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Speaker 1: keep everybody updated if we do.

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Speaker 2: Uh, here's it's going to be shortly before When was

519
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: he put in prison?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Right right, it would have been it would have been right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it would have been very very crazy. Go by exactly,

523
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Speaker 1: it's crazy. Let's go to the next one. This is

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Speaker 1: a great one. You know, when we're talking here about

525
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Speaker 1: foreign influence, joy Eto, do you happen to have anyone

526
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Speaker 1: with influence over asad epscene? Not for email. I think

527
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: everyone should keep this in mind. So consider all the

528
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Speaker 1: crazy shit that we have shown everyone today, which was

529
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Speaker 1: an email jokes about Mosad, like all the billionaire stuff,

530
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: the harem, the joking, the Trump stuff intel, this one

531
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Speaker 1: is apparently so since so he he did have a line.

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Speaker 1: Apparently he goes not for email. We don't talk about this,

533
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Speaker 1: yeah here, so okay, well we.

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Speaker 2: Wait till we get to the horror block too, where

535
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Speaker 2: they're talking about torture and whatever and just like out

536
00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: you know, right, so this was apparently too far even

537
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Speaker 2: for him.

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Speaker 1: That's my say. What I'm saying, I go, what is

539
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: so crazy for Jeffrey Epstein that it is not for email.

540
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: Great question. Okay, here's another one. Love this. If real,

541
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Speaker 1: real ones, we'll understand why this one is crazy. New

542
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: emails from the inbox show his long standing interest in Somaliland,

543
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Speaker 1: including discussions the year before his death with this who

544
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Speaker 1: I just mentioned Dubai Port's world chief, Sultan Solian about

545
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Speaker 1: proposals for recognition of the territory as an independent state.

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Speaker 1: So real ones will know that samalaland more recently is

547
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Speaker 1: a topic connecting to our own discourse around Israel, Crystal.

548
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Speaker 2: But this wasn't Israel the first country to officially recognize

549
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Speaker 2: that's why?

550
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. So like there's this long standing beef

551
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: and this involves Somalia, but Israel apparently was involved, Like

552
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Speaker 1: with all things Israel somehow got imported into our own politics.

553
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: But you can see here that Epstein himself was also

554
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Speaker 1: involved in apparently some discussion around the independence again with

555
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Speaker 1: a Dubai you know, a very very rich executive in Dubai. Okay,

556
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: next one, this is another crazy one. This was an

557
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Speaker 1: email from the Sultan, buts same one suggesting Epstein was

558
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Speaker 1: involved in or at least discussing. He says, Dear Jeffrey,

559
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Speaker 1: I am attaching some media clipping regarding the Israeli operation

560
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Speaker 1: in Dubai. I will call you around seven pm time.

561
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Speaker 1: What happened doesn't help anyone. So this was after an

562
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Speaker 1: assassination of a Hamas leader in Dubai back in twenty ten.

563
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Speaker 1: And the only reason why it's this is like trip

564
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Speaker 1: some flags is what he says. What happened doesn't help anyone.

565
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Speaker 1: I'm attaching some media clipping. It seems to think that

566
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Speaker 1: they're going to discuss it and then it'll have some

567
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Speaker 1: role in it. Not that they're just discussing Crystal, like

568
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Speaker 1: you know, they're not just discussing current events. It seems

569
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Speaker 1: to say what happened doesn't help anyone, Like he's trying

570
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Speaker 1: to get him to relay a message. That's how I

571
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Speaker 1: read that, But you know, of course you can read

572
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Speaker 1: it in any way.

573
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but very like, very interesting that that would be

574
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Speaker 2: the person who would reach out exactly.

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm like, We need we need to why why?

576
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, where's a back Cherry Epstein R Get what's the

577
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: reason you need to talk to you?

578
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Speaker 1: How do we get in touch with these guys, how

579
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Speaker 1: do we make sure that they don't know, you know,

580
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Speaker 1: what exactly is happening. So you could see that that

581
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Speaker 1: one is very important. All right, let's continue here.

582
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Speaker 2: This is what's put this next one. This is a

583
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Speaker 2: this is a very disturbing one. This is a journal

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Speaker 2: from a you know, purported victim. And it's lengthy, and

585
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Speaker 2: there's all kinds of stuff written out in like a

586
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Speaker 2: weird code. It's very disturbing. But this part in particular

587
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Speaker 2: was deeply, deeply troubling. So it says in the hall

588
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Speaker 2: Gallaine said she was beautiful. She was not is she

589
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Speaker 2: was a beautiful girl.

590
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Speaker 6: I heard her? Where is she? Why did she stop whimpering?

591
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Speaker 1: She was born?

592
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Speaker 2: I heard the tiny cries. I can't do this anymore.

593
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Speaker 2: He is now controlling everything when it used to be Glaine,

594
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Speaker 2: who some days acts like she hates me. Secrets of

595
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Speaker 2: all of them. I'm tired of keeping the secret. I

596
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: know people are wondering, but I can't tell. I am exhausted,

597
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Speaker 2: broken promises. I don't understand why she treating me on

598
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: some days like I'm the enemy. But then we lay

599
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: in bed together and she is how she used to

600
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Speaker 2: be warm. He makes her feel my tummy and is

601
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: so sad and confusing. Superior gene Pool question mark, why me?

602
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: It makes no sense? Why ma? Hair color and eye

603
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: color that feels very Nazi like. But in thinking about

604
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: these stupid, insane theories he has I guess in his

605
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: mind it makes sense. The piano and music comments are

606
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: made to convince me this is right and create perfect offspring,

607
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Speaker 2: he calls them. I don't think it works that way,

608
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Speaker 2: and it makes me hating playing together piano or viola.

609
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Speaker 6: I am starting to resent them both.

610
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Speaker 2: I miss the person I was before I was made

611
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: into what feels as a human incubator.

612
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Speaker 6: So I don't even know what you say about that.

613
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Speaker 1: You know, it's just disturbing fits.

614
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Speaker 2: I guess really in the horror block because this is

615
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Speaker 2: you know, this is what a victim wrote, and like

616
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Speaker 2: I said, there was also this was there was a

617
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Speaker 2: longer part of it. There are parts that were in

618
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Speaker 2: bizarre code. There are other illusions throughout the files to

619
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Speaker 2: like weird impregnation.

620
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Speaker 1: They talked about that, Yeah, quite a bit. It's look,

621
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Speaker 1: it's super disturbing, and that's what we're saying. Even contextualizing it,

622
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Speaker 1: it's very hard to even like it's it's really hard

623
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Speaker 1: to even say the reality of it. Was it like

624
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: some disturbed writing. But I mean this is where I

625
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: was going to save some of this for the horror stuff,

626
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: but like this is where the eyes wide shut part

627
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: of it just seems real. Like there's no there's no

628
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: rational or safe universe where stuff like this is even

629
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Speaker 1: going to exist. Like in what world can and what

630
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: environment can something like this even be, you know, even

631
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Speaker 1: be written down either as a confessional or some sort

632
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Speaker 1: of fantasy. But like whatever exactly was being released and

633
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: what was happening in all here, yeah, just is very

634
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: very you know, difficult to even fathom the conditions in

635
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Speaker 1: which something like this could ever be written.

636
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Speaker 2: So let's go ahead and talk about some of the

637
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: media angle here, because this was this is actually one

638
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: of the wilder parts as well. Yes, and very relevant

639
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: to current events and some of the current events we

640
00:32:59,040 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: cover here on the show.

641
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: Yes, turning down to media. I got to say at

642
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Speaker 1: the beginning, this one hurts doctor Peter Atiya. I read

643
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: his book, I listened to his show. I thought he's

644
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: one of the most well respected doctors, you know, longevity specialists,

645
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: really cut through a lot of the BS literally last

646
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Speaker 1: week listened to a full episode that he's done. I've

647
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Speaker 1: listened to multiple of his like followed a ton of

648
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Speaker 1: his advice, So when I saw this it was shocking.

649
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: It's shocking too also in terms of the way that

650
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: he's talked about family life and personal stuff. But look,

651
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's part of the public conversation and it

652
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: is worth reporting on. So let's go to the next one,

653
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: and let's put this up here. So you have this

654
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: email exchange from twenty fifteen from Jeff. By the way,

655
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: keep in mind the subject line because I'm not even

656
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: sure what that means. Got a fresh shipment, not sure

657
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: what it says from Epstein, and then Atiya writes here

658
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: you the biggest problem with becoming friends with you? The

659
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: lead is so outrageous, and yet I can't tell a

660
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: soul dot dot dot.

661
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 2: And the gotta first shipment appears to be a question right,

662
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: It's like because Epstein says, fraid not.

663
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: Right, So please tell me you found that picture online

664
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: dot dot dot. Bastard was another email that was written.

665
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: So again I don't know exactly what the context of

666
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: this exactly one is. Let's go to F two. I

667
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: mean you know, I don't even have words for this, right,

668
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 1: So you got a tea here saying pussy is indeed

669
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: low carbs. Still awaiting results on gluten content February twenty sixteen. Look,

670
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: locker room talk, I guess, but it's just one of

671
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: those where and we're not even gonna read some of

672
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 1: the other ones where he's talking about his personal life

673
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: and his relationship with his wife and that's all Taudrey.

674
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: But I mean, it's just again, like I said, it's

675
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 1: really tough for a lot of people like me and

676
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: many others out there who've been relying on his advice

677
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: and his health information. I mean, I can't be alone.

678
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: There are millions, he has millions of followers. Like heated

679
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 1: his advice, like really cut through, read the studies, elevated

680
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: I thought, some of the best most responsible voices and

681
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: like in health and fitness, And I mean everybody did

682
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: know for years like that he had this concierge doctor

683
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: business with like the rich and the powerful, and you

684
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: know he hit out Hollywood celebrities on there was a

685
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: little bit of a red flag back in the day.

686
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: Remember he posted this thing with Kevin Spacey, and I

687
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 1: was like, that's a little weird, you know, because he's

688
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: just said he unconditionally and I was like, Okay, you know,

689
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: people can know Kevin Spacey, that's all fine. But yeah,

690
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: I mean, this is tough. And it's also by the way,

691
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 1: in the context of Atia more recently just got hired

692
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: by CBS News sixty minutes just did a whole thing

693
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: with him, which I thought was great. That's why this

694
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: is so crazy. And you know, even reading the list,

695
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is you know, the good actually

696
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: Huberman and the Tia, these are these this is good information.

697
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: So I don't know how CBS is going to handle

698
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: this one, or you know, how he's own audience and

699
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: all of that will react. I've looked. He hasn't said

700
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: anything as of recently in terms of a state, but

701
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: this has been blowing up all over you know, health,

702
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: Instagram and much more, including many of these. You know,

703
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: he's going to have to address it, presumably, you know,

704
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: at some point. But he is one of the more

705
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: prominent like media figures who was named here in the files. Yeah,

706
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: not just named. I mean you could see his own

707
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: relationship and there's hundreds of either.

708
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: There's a lot it's not just the to do it was.

709
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 2: There was a lengthy exchange. And again we're talking about

710
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 2: a time twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen when it is well known,

711
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 2: what is you know, after the conviction, So you can't say, oh,

712
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: I had no idea what was going on. And you

713
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 2: can see the content of the type of discussions that

714
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 2: they were having as well and draw your own conclusions

715
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: about what is going on there. Speaking of Barry, though,

716
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: let's go and put the F three up on the screen.

717
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: You've got some friendly exchanges between Barry's wife, Nelly Bowles,

718
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: who also is like a you know, founder or what

719
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 2: is she?

720
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 6: Editor at large of the Free Press?

721
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: In any case, she's got some friendly exchanges here with

722
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein. He's asking her, when are you and your

723
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: babe back in New York City?

724
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 6: The babe here being Barry Wiss.

725
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: You've got some Hello, Nelly, Jeffrey will be in New

726
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: York tomorrow on Wednesday. Might you be around to be

727
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 2: able to come meet him mashably as you will both

728
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 2: enjoy each other's company. Perhaps Wednesday eleven am Jeffrey's home.

729
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 2: The dress is blah blah blah. Please let me know thanks,

730
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: and so you've got these you know, these friendly exchanges, plans.

731
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 6: To get together, et cetera.

732
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: Back and forth between Barry Weiss's wife, Nellie Bowls.

733
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: To be fair, Jeffie Bowles had written about it previously,

734
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: you know, saying that she'd met with Epstein and all

735
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: that she said it was, you know, for work, just saying.

736
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 2: She did cover you know, elites, she covered Silicon Valley

737
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: and other elites.

738
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, perhaps no, I mean, I'm just saying, like,

739
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: it's not like it was a secret. As anybody who

740
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: watched this show. I'm not the biggest fan of of

741
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: the Free Press or any of that, just noting, you know,

742
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: she had previously said, yeah, it's not a secret, like

743
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: I connect did with them. But all of this, you know,

744
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: in the context kind of a CBS it is kind

745
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: of crazy the number of like weird connections that we're

746
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: able to find. Let's put this next one up here.

747
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: This is from Harrison Berger, who flagged a multiple large

748
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: showed up a bunch in Epstein files related to large

749
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: wire transfers. You know that the problem with the context

750
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: is we don't really see much beyond some of the

751
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: overall amounts, but of course, it wouldn't be out of

752
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: the realm of possibility to see large wire transfers and

753
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: all that going back and forth. But it does show

754
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: some of the major figures here who were involved. Put

755
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: F five up on the screen now. For example, this

756
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: one was showing Epstein relating to travel with Woody Allen

757
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: back in March of twenty twelve for what was described

758
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: in the correspondence as a pedophile convention. Seems to be

759
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: a joke, but he says, question for you Paris with

760
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: Woody Allen. Sorry for all the typos from Jeffrey to redacted.

761
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: He replies for late pedophile convention, question mark, and Epstein

762
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: replies back, I think petaphila is the plural. So that's

763
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: the hilarious that they're all telling them so behind the scenes.

764
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: And then F six, if we will, I thought there's

765
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: kind of interesting thread from jet here, had my back

766
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 1: and forth with Jeet over the years. We'll give credit

767
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: where it is due, he says. The new batch shows

768
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: to help illuminate a contemporary controversy, what's up with Barry

769
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: Wise up to CBS. I think the answer she's trying

770
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: to rehabilitate Epstein network is a bulwark of reactionary centrism.

771
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: I think really what he means by the right Epstein

772
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: network is just like this general you know, like global.

773
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 6: Call and oh we have right, we have the rest.

774
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: Let's continue with this thread because I thought this is

775
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: Inji puts a bunch of the pieces together. He says,

776
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: let's lay out the connection. Weiss's partner and ideological collaborator,

777
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: Nellie Bowles, was on very familiar terms with Epstein as

778
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: we were just discussing.

779
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 6: Next one.

780
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: Announcing her plans for CBS, Weiss said she wants to

781
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: marginalize the radical right and left while elevating charismatics. She

782
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: actually said that centrist voices like Alan Dershowitz, Epstein former

783
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: lawyer and crony. And of course, next one, another voice

784
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: being elevated by Weiss is Peter Adia, who we were

785
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 2: just discussing. Next one, of course, Weiss has brought on

786
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 2: Stephen Pinker to CBS, who also as his connections as

787
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: part of her new Town Hall format. She had used

788
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 2: Larry Summers for Free Press, but core Summers now because

789
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: of his Epstein connections, is too toxic to rehabilitate. Next one,

790
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 2: Weiss presents her mission at CBS is during trust by

791
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: elevating centrist voices, which is accurate enough if we understand

792
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: Centri's voices to mean the type of men likely to

793
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 2: hang out with Jeffrey Epstein completely forgot to mention voice

794
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: did a lengthy, friendly interview with one of Epstein's closest friends,

795
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 2: Woody Allen, and then he concludes Weiss's project is creating

796
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: an operation paper Clip for Epstein's cronies, taking a group

797
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 2: of discardited men, rehabilitating them as necessary pillars up system.

798
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: Dershowitz and Peter Adia are the Werner von Bronze of

799
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: reactionary centrism. So putting some pieces together there, and I

800
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: think that is a useful way of thinking about it

801
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: and doesn't have to be conspiratorial. But obviously you see

802
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 2: you see in these files, you see the way power works.

803
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: You see the network here, and you know they want

804
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 2: to maintain their power and control, and in order to

805
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: do that you need media organs that are going to

806
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: elevate you, that are going to you know, manufacture consent

807
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: for the world as you see it and as you

808
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: want other people to see it. That's what allows you

809
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: to continue working the levers of power, and so you know,

810
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 2: I think when you put all of those pieces together,

811
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 2: it's a pretty good theory of what she's up to

812
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: there of trying to trying to keep at bay the

813
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: sort of the reactionary right, try to keep at bay

814
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 2: the Bernie Sanders left. By the way, there is one

815
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 2: funny mention of Bernie Sanders in the files where Larry

816
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 2: Summers is bitching about how some of his kids like

817
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders too much. He and Norm Finkelstein are the

818
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 2: only two be able to come out of this looking

819
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: better than before. Norm was offered to meet with Epstein,

820
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: and he he was like, I would rather like that

821
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: guy should be strangled. I would never meet with him,

822
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah. So in typical Norm fashion, going

823
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: very hard in the paint, disgusted at the in suggestion.

824
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: And this was at a time when he was at

825
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: a low point in his career. In any case, putting

826
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: that aside, clearly, I mean that is Barry's project is

827
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 2: basically like, let me try to put back together the

828
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 2: pieces of this collapsing world order and try to rebuild

829
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 2: some of the powerful pillars of that world order. And

830
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: people that I know are going to be amenable to

831
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 2: that project, and so, you know, and not just Barry

832
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 2: like the Ellison's I think that is sort of broadly

833
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 2: the project that they are engaged in.

834
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's why the irony of the whole

835
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: look not to make this into a whole CBS thing,

836
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: but the whole CBS thing. The idea this is some

837
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: revolutionary takeover is ridiculous. Like what it is is about

838
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: exactly kind of how we described it, so called reactionary centrism,

839
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: like making sure that everything is pro Israel, making sure

840
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: that the voices that we say are elevating that are

841
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 1: not enough on media in our media are like Mike

842
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: Pompeo and hr McMaster and you know a bunch of

843
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: other folks who everybody in the media ideologically has largely

844
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: agree with. Now for a decade, Hillary Clinton, right, bringing

845
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: her on for some sort of stream We're going to

846
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: do the fucking news, you know, she says, but really

847
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: not changing things up really at all, and making it

848
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: all part of like a broader Ellison empire. So in

849
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: a way, like I think his idea here about protecting

850
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: the Epstein like reactionary centrism, as Epstein thought, is very

851
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: apt because that is what spans all of these emails,

852
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 1: all of our coverage from throughout the day. You've got

853
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: the deep state, you've got politicians, you've got people of

854
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: influence and power, you've got the financial system. All of

855
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: it is about protecting itself. It's all about making money.

856
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: It's all about, you know, morality imposed upon others. But

857
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: now a morality that looks inside. Actually, now, when I

858
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: think about it, it's very Victorian. Where in the Victorian age,

859
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: you know, all of the commoners were expected to uphold

860
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: themselves to a very high moral standard, and outwardly the

861
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: king and the royalty them would project that, but inwardly

862
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: they were disgusting degenerates who were often some of the

863
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: most like conducting the most degenerate behavior, but they themselves

864
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: were like total hypocrites kind of protecting themselves in this

865
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: power and influence. So yes, it's just it's a tale

866
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: as old as time.

867
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 6: Well, that's good.

868
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: It's a good segue to our last piece here, which

869
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: is just some of the things that you can't even

870
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 2: really categorize, you know, they're just depict the absolute depraved, disgusting,

871
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: like beyond belief type of activity, you know, and it

872
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 2: hinsat it right. This is all the little glimpses that

873
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: we get. And we've talked about this before, because I mean,

874
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 2: it really does. The Birthday book was very eye opening

875
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 2: for me, or like page after page of the most disgusting, disturbing,

876
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: dystopian references where that was the moment when we both

877
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: were oh, as why shut as the documentary like.

878
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 6: This is real life.

879
00:44:55,600 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: And I genuinely I believe so firmly now in the

880
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: strongest possible way, that being a billionaire, being extraordinarily powerful,

881
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 2: being extraordinarily influential, you know, well positioned in these ways, it.

882
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 6: Destroys your soul. It destroys your soul.

883
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 2: It's not only bad for society, it is bad for

884
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 2: you personally. And so, as you said, you know this

885
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: type of depraved behavior, it's not new. This is something

886
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 2: you see repeated over millennia with the you know, top

887
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 2: elites of their time, where the best I can psychologize

888
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: is that, you know, because they have so much, and

889
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 2: because they also see themselves as being this distinct, you know,

890
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 2: class of humans that are separate and above from all

891
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: the rest that first of all, it excuses any sort

892
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 2: of horror and abuse and Jeffrey Epstein clearly if you

893
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 2: read these emails, has a specific like Jewish supremacist ideology

894
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: that he believes in, which is part of his own

895
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: mental mental architecture of why he believes he's justified in

896
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 2: doing all of these things that he does because he's different,

897
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: he's special, he's separate. These girls that he's abusing, they

898
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: don't count in the same way. There's one email that

899
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: we were talking about where he's pissed off at Bill

900
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: Gates asking him for money for his projects in Africa,

901
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 2: and he's basically like, this is some Catholic bullshit where

902
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 2: they believe every human.

903
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 6: Life is equal.

904
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: That's what he says, like that he does not believe

905
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 2: that every human life is equal, and he's disgusted that

906
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 2: Bill Gates might subscribe to that ideology. So in any case,

907
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 2: you know, I think you get that mentality, you get

908
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 2: this level of decadence. You know, the normal pleasures that

909
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 2: you when I engage in, like, they don't hit the

910
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 2: same and so you just do this increasingly disgusting and

911
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 2: depraved behavior and end up with, I mean, things that

912
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: I think most ordinary people could not even conceive of.

913
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 2: So let's go and put this some of this together again.

914
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 2: These are like the glimpses we get in these emails. Right,

915
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 2: there's this video of Epstein in a kitchen and the

916
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 2: girls here are redacted girls women. We don't know their age.

917
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: You can tell from the reflection that it is females,

918
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: and you can hear their voices. You can see him

919
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,959
Speaker 2: like chasing them around the kitchen island, you know, into

920
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: sweat pants, and they're you know, giggling, and he's going

921
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 2: after them.

922
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 6: That's enough of that we can put. Let's put G

923
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 6: two up on the screen.

924
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: This is another one of these perplexing photos where you're like,

925
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: why did you let yourself be photograb like shows we

926
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 2: don't know who this dude is laying with his belly

927
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: hanging out in you know, his underwear, and then two

928
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 2: females of indeterminate age, potential victims, we don't know they're

929
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: with him. So you got that one. Let's put this

930
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: G three up on the screen. This is from a

931
00:47:53,080 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 2: Harvard professor. So says, our spy was captured after completing

932
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: her mission. This is from the Harvard professor and Epstein replies,

933
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: did you torture her? Okay, what does that mean, Does

934
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 2: that mean what it appears to mean? Is this some

935
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: sort of a some sort of a joke and inside

936
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: joke between the two of you. There were a number

937
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: of references to torture in all of this. In addition,

938
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 2: let's put G four up on the screen. There was

939
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 2: also a lot of language that appears to be coded

940
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 2: regarding food. I wanted to let you know the crew

941
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: really appreciated the pizza. Another email read this is better

942
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: than a Chinese cookie see attached. Let's go for pizza

943
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: and grape soda again. This one talks about Yeah, that's

944
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: the pizza you mean, radiating a soft glow with the

945
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 2: look of bliss and excitement. There's one war I think

946
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: in this list as well. Sorry, I have no stomach

947
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 2: for even the slightest agro. I don't have the stomach

948
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: for it, for any drama mentioniner real, I'm still fragile

949
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: off the last one and scared of shadows. This is

950
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 2: in response to some videos that were shared where Jeffrey

951
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 2: Epstein himself says I watched all of these videos, don't

952
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: send any more, and then Galaane is like, I can't

953
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 2: stomach any of this. What the fuck did you send

954
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 2: that Jeffrey Epstein was.

955
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: Like no war well, and remember that they have some

956
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: sort of opsect because previously it said not for email. Again,

957
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: I especially more recently after becoming a parent, like I

958
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: find a lot of this stuff like extremely difficult to

959
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: even look at and just think about how people could

960
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: end up like in this type of situation and just

961
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: the casual, callous nature in which they would talk a

962
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: lot about women and use them as tools. I mean,

963
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: for example, let's put this next one up here from

964
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: Emily that she was able to find the snow white

965
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: was fed twice as soon as she put on her costume.

966
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: Don't forget there were previous you know, there were previous

967
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: references to a snow white that we previously had made

968
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: here before on the show. Regarding Jess Staley, we don't

969
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: know if he was the person who sent this email,

970
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: and perhaps this was just some sick game that he

971
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: would set up for him and his friends, but you

972
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: could see that put G six up here on the screen.

973
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 1: This was some guy who was proposing that Epstein would

974
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: participate in some sort of modeling contests for all of

975
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: the top girls inside of Russia, and so like these

976
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: are all just like schemes, you know, with power and

977
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: all of them behind them to victimize and to get

978
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: women in positions of which they're subordinate to him and

979
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: which he's powerful over them. And look, I mean we

980
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: showed you guys the Andrew photos, but there's all kinds

981
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: of creepy shit in there. Like if you go through

982
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 1: and there are hundreds of these photos, like click through,

983
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: the vast majority of them people like very compromising, like

984
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: weird sexual positions. By the way, the dog Jay even

985
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: accidentally released nude photographs in some cases that most of

986
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: them have been released now, but just to show you

987
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: like their own redaction process. But the unfortunate part is

988
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: they redact the names in many cases of like powerful guys.

989
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: And then in some of these women, you know they're

990
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: photographs or others are being released without their consent or

991
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: in a compromising position and they don't do anything. Yeah,

992
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: is terrible, but yeah, I mean, just my overall takeaway

993
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: is there some sick, sick, sick, deep depraved stuff that

994
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: was happening there. And I mean this is part of

995
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: the difficulty where look the pizzas, like you know, everyone

996
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: likes to make fun of Pizzagate and all that, and sure,

997
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: you know it got out of control. However, the original

998
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: idea of people referring to c Sam as pizza was

999
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: a thing. That's kind of what the connection became. And

1000
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: you can look, I mean, you can't deny that a

1001
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: lot of these emails are very strange and do not

1002
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,959
Speaker 1: make any sense in the context of actually talking about

1003
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: pizza because it was internet slaying that was previously that

1004
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: you were able to make the relation. I just don't

1005
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 1: see how you can't connect it, at least in some way.

1006
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the Podesta thing. Everybody says you're

1007
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: a kook. Go and look at photos from Tony Pedessa's

1008
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: house if you've never seen it before, and you're not

1009
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: going to say, at the very least a weird shit

1010
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: or it looked weird as shit in terms of the

1011
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 1: art in and of itself.

1012
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 2: Yep, let me read one of these pizza one again.

1013
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 2: This is better than a Chinese cookie see attached. Let's

1014
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 2: go for pizza and grape soda again. No one else

1015
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 2: can understand. Does that seem like a normal thing that

1016
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 2: you draw your A couple of billionaires will be sending

1017
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 2: to each other.

1018
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: That's what I mean you about.

1019
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 6: Pizza and grape soda.

1020
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you draw your own conclusions about what that means. Like,

1021
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: I have no other way to describe it to you.

1022
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: It's just one of those where clearly they were up

1023
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: to some I mean, don't forget that even in twenty nineteen,

1024
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: if you look at his Amazon receipts, which THEO with

1025
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: Bloomberg went through, I mean he's ordering all this like

1026
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: crazy sex shit on Amazon, which is in his receipts. Yeah,

1027
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: and on top of what Lolita the revised annotated copy right.

1028
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: You know, it's like it was so out in the open,

1029
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: not only in terms of his friend group, but from

1030
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: behind the scenes and all the stuff that they were

1031
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: up to. And remember everything we've shown you today is

1032
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: what they put in email. Well, he had a well

1033
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: he had insight into what he wouldn't put in the email.

1034
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 6: And there's literally was.

1035
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 2: Something a couple of other things said about that. So

1036
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: when was a Todd Blanche that announced that Epstein files released. Anyway,

1037
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 2: he said that they left out any images of torture

1038
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 2: death abuse. That means they had images of torture, death

1039
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: and abuse.

1040
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 6: That okay, so.

1041
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 2: They still are holding on to that, which I mean, true,

1042
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to see that material, but it seems

1043
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 2: like potentially there needs to be some investigations there. Nobody

1044
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 2: was implicated outside of Jeffrey Epstein and Glainne Maxwell, nobody else.

1045
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 2: There's nothing here of anyone that can be charged. I

1046
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 2: want to underscore again that, by the government's own admission,

1047
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 2: there were six million files and they nerd it down

1048
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 2: to three million files. So we are getting the handpicked

1049
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 2: view that they want us to have. So it's really

1050
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: important to keep that in mind as well. One thing

1051
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 2: with regard to the Pizzagate thing, so it looks from

1052
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: the files that Epstein met with the four Chan guy

1053
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: who started the Paul board on four Chan, which was

1054
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: the place where pizzagate and QAnon where they come from. Okay,

1055
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: and they met on the same day that that board begins.

1056
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of theorizing about you know, I mean,

1057
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 2: this is a tale as old as time that the

1058
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 2: culture war is used to distract people from the real

1059
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 2: problems in society and the globe, which is the power

1060
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 2: of these very billionaires. So you know, it's not crazy

1061
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 2: to imagine that they found all of these kooky conspiracy

1062
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: theories to be very useful that were you know, I mean,

1063
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 2: Pizzagate was stupid and bizarre, and so it made it

1064
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 2: very easy, and so it was QAnon, and so it

1065
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 2: made it very easy for people to see all of this,

1066
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 2: the real things that were going on as preposterous, right,

1067
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 2: and so the you know, the New York Times of

1068
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 2: the World and whatever wouldn't deign to look into it,

1069
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 2: media organizations involved directly in.

1070
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 6: Cover ups, etc.

1071
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 2: Because it was all painted as like just the you know,

1072
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 2: the hobby horse of these crazy fringe conspiracy theorists. And

1073
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: again like Piezagate and QAnon were ridiculous things were they

1074
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Speaker 2: sort of put out there intentionally so that you you know,

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Speaker 2: are are making the real part also seem like it's

1076
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 2: preposterous and like it's just an icky conspiracy theory that is,

1077
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Speaker 2: you know, one possibility. I'm not saying that's proven by this,

1078
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Speaker 2: but there's one possibility here. Let's put the next piece

1079
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Speaker 2: up on the screen from this is a daily mail

1080
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Speaker 2: right up of some of the allegations that were contained

1081
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: from a victim. In these files, they say Jeffrey Epstein

1082
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 2: raped underage girls several times a day as part of

1083
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 2: a sickening routine. Detailed new documents released by the Department

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Speaker 2: of Justice. An alleged victim in a civil complete filed

1085
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: in Florida in twenty ten revealed the process that young

1086
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 2: girls endured upon their arrival at his Palm Beach mansion.

1087
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Speaker 2: Each girl was brought to his home in private transportation

1088
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 2: arranged by Epstein, greeted by an assistan and who collected

1089
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 2: her personal information, then let up a remote flight of

1090
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: stairs to a room containing a shower and massage table.

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Speaker 2: If it was her first encounter with the pedophile, another

1092
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 2: girl would be in the room to lead the way

1093
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Speaker 2: before being dismissed by Epstein.

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Speaker 6: The alleged victim claimed.

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Speaker 2: Epstein would then have his massage wearing only small towel,

1096
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 2: which eventually would be removed. He gave his victims specific

1097
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: instructions as to where and how he wanted things done,

1098
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 2: and would order them to strip naked. The complaint released

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00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 2: in Friday's Epstein files revealed, so, this is one of

1100
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Speaker 2: the alleged victims. This is what she told the FBI,

1101
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Speaker 2: and I mentioned this earlier. I mentioned it again. We

1102
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Speaker 2: did get a look of that draft indictment before the

1103
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Speaker 2: sweetheart deal is crafted, where you had what a dozen

1104
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 2: plus victims who would come forward and testified in very

1105
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 2: similar terms to this level of abuse that they had

1106
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 2: been subjected to, girls as young as fourteen, who spoke

1107
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Speaker 2: to authorities about this.

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Speaker 6: And we're trad and we're ultimately betrayed.

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Speaker 1: Because for years people have said that Dershwitz, for example,

1110
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Speaker 1: has defended Oh, the victims only said no, no, the

1111
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: plead only happened because they picked the oldest girl that

1112
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Speaker 1: was involved. But remember, and if you read that indictment,

1113
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Speaker 1: which by the way, I'd been waiting for it for

1114
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: a long time to actually see the original case, it

1115
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Speaker 1: look you can read it yourself.

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Speaker 2: Yea.

1117
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: Costa is claiming though that he didn't have enough to

1118
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: be able to prosecute, but if you read the allegations

1119
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: and all that made within, you can see that they

1120
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Speaker 1: had a much stronger and bigger one that would have

1121
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: sent him to jail forever, very different from what he

1122
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: eventually pled guilty to later on, And that backs up

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Speaker 1: everything that we have said here over the years. I mean,

1124
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Speaker 1: the FBI agents and others had told us specifically about

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Speaker 1: this case and about some of the details. But to

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00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: read it and to finally see it all for yourself.

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Speaker 1: It basically, I mean, look, it does make it so

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Speaker 1: that all the people who originally defended the Plea deal,

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Speaker 1: they look like idiots in my opinion, Like if you

1130
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: read through it, it's obvious. And so I don't know,

1131
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: I guess that's it for all of us today. But yeah,

1132
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Speaker 1: I hope it was useful to everyone. And I'll just

1133
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Speaker 1: say there's a lot of work into it.

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Speaker 2: The victims have come forward, the survivors have said they

1135
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: you know, they continue to be disgusted with the cover up.

1136
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Speaker 2: They continue to be disgusted with the fact that victim

1137
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 2: details were revealed, the names of powerful men were protected

1138
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Speaker 2: and redacted. The Department of Justice continues to be in

1139
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Speaker 2: violation of the law that was passed and signed into

1140
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 2: law by President Trump about the level that they're supposed

1141
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: to release, the amount of documents they are supposed to release,

1142
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: what is supposed to be contained in there, what they're

1143
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 2: supposed to redect, what they're not supposed to redact, et cetera.

1144
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Speaker 2: So we'll leave it at that. And I'm sure, look,

1145
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Speaker 2: it was three million files. It's a lot. There will

1146
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Speaker 2: continue to be things that come out. Anything we find noteworthy,

1147
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Speaker 2: we will continue to cover, but we wanted to do

1148
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Speaker 2: as comprehensive and overview as of what we had seen

1149
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Speaker 2: so far and the portrait that that.

1150
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Speaker 1: All pains exactly. So we did our best. We corelated

1151
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: all this stuff. This was all publicly released information, you know,

1152
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Speaker 1: from the DOJ. In many cases where people had given

1153
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: statements about it, we made an effort to read those

1154
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Speaker 1: on here and just wanted to make clear that these

1155
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Speaker 1: were information that was released you know, by the DOJ.

1156
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Speaker 1: Being mentioned doesn't necessarily implicate wrongdoing, and to our best ability,

1157
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Speaker 1: we've contextualized it here on the show. Okay, thank you

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Speaker 1: all so much for watching. We appreciate it. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back here tomorrow