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Speaker 3: Welcome everyone.

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Speaker 4: It is Kentucky Sports Radio, Tuesday, June the tenth. I'm

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Speaker 4: Matt Jones here in studio in Lexington. You can give

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Speaker 4: what today's show is going to beat. Uh, you know

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Speaker 4: it is a Murray State baseball uh. I will mention

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Speaker 4: that because it was exciting, but not yet. We have

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Speaker 4: to talk about the news Vince Merrow. At this point,

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Speaker 4: you know, Vince Merrow has h is leaving Kentucky to

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Speaker 4: become the general manager of Louisville football in a move

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Speaker 4: that is one of the more it's not shocking, but

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Speaker 4: it's one of the more surprising moves that I can

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Speaker 4: remember in Kentucky athletics. It is it is gonna be

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Speaker 4: one that will have ramifications for everybody for a long time,

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Speaker 4: for Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: Football, for Louisville football.

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Speaker 4: For Vince, and you know it is. Look, it'll be.

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Speaker 4: This is one of those you just say, Okay, we

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Speaker 4: can talk about this the whole show. I got all

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Speaker 4: these topics, We're not gonna get to any of them.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be this. I'm gonna give a shout out

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Speaker 4: to Murray State. That's that's the thing. But Ryan Living

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Speaker 4: is here, Shannon, the dude is here, guys. I was

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Speaker 4: about to go to dinner. I had a friend in

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Speaker 4: tab from the fellowship, I mean from Miami really, and

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Speaker 4: we were going to go to dinner last night and

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Speaker 4: I was gonna leave my phone at home.

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Speaker 3: I thought, this dude's here from Miami.

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Speaker 4: Shannon. Yeah, I'm not gonna take my phone out. Happenings

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Speaker 4: gonna be huge, June, what are we gonna do?

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Speaker 3: It's Jude.

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Speaker 4: I've already talked to my mom earlier today. She knows,

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Speaker 4: I'm okay, I'm just gonna go ahead and uh. And

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Speaker 4: then fifteen minutes before I leave to walk out the door,

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Speaker 4: this happens, and so I have to spend the dinner going, hey, man,

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Speaker 3: I gotta deal with that, you know.

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Speaker 4: So here's my reaction, and then I'll go to you guys.

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Speaker 4: My reaction was not I'm not shocked he's leaving. I'm

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Speaker 4: very surprised he's going to Louisville. Now, Okay, if you

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Speaker 4: had told me in December, I actually thought at the

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Speaker 4: end of the year he was gonna go somewhere. I

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Speaker 4: didn't think he'd come back for another year. Then I

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Speaker 4: had prepared myself at the beginning of December that he

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Speaker 4: would go to Louisville. You remember, of course, our interview

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Speaker 3: Terrible interview by him at the time. Terrible interview that was.

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Speaker 4: But he ends up staying and so I am surprised

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Speaker 4: to look at it from like three different angles. First

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Speaker 4: of all, the angle for UK football. It's a big loss.

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Speaker 4: It's a loss in terms of recruiting, although it would

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Speaker 4: little bit of what he used to do. I still

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Speaker 4: think that's true anymore. But it does matter. But it

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Speaker 4: matters even more from a perception standpoint, right. I mean,

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Speaker 4: this was the in some ways the face of your program,

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Speaker 5: But Vince by far the most beloved assistan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly since I've been doing it, most beloved assistant coach.

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Speaker 4: And he leaves, and he leaves his friend. And the

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Speaker 4: symbol like the symbolic nature of that, you can't you

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Speaker 4: I don't know about the rest of the state. We'll

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Speaker 4: have to see you knock up Louisville now Louisville's locked

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Speaker 4: Harden and stuff like that, that starts to become a

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Speaker 4: don't him a long time considering him a good friend.

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Speaker 4: I don't really understand what Vince is doing. I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't get it. Just on a personal level, I

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Speaker 4: I know he really likes Jeff Brown, so that part

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Speaker 3: But that dude had a job here for life if

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, if Mark Stoops got fired, they would have

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Speaker 4: kept Vince Mayor. Somehow, Tucky's biggest donor is maybe his

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Speaker 3: That's true. The athletic director really likes minutes.

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Speaker 4: He married the president's personal assistant, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Like you get pretty deep roots in the University of

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Speaker 4: that's done now, Like he'll never ever be looked at

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Speaker 3: Rick Patino, it took twenty years.

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Speaker 4: For us to even and put him back in the building,

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Speaker 4: and he took a break between the two schools, right.

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Speaker 4: Vince went directly there, and as Rick Patino would tell you,

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Speaker 4: it can be really good at Louisville, it can't. They

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Speaker 4: but it's not the same as it is here. They care,

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Speaker 4: that he's the only person that's experienced both.

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Speaker 3: True.

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Speaker 4: You can have it really good there, but it's not

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Speaker 4: the same as owning the city of Lexington. You're one

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Speaker 4: So I was surprised, Ryan. I think it's terrible for

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Speaker 4: one of the more surprising things we've seen happen since

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Speaker 4: I've been doing this.

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Speaker 5: You know, I purposely didn't call you last night so

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Speaker 5: I'm telling you, Man caught me completely off guard. I mean,

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Speaker 5: this whole timing of this is just kind of blows

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Speaker 3: He just had a.

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Speaker 5: Huge recruiting weekend at Kentucky last weekend.

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Speaker 3: He offered a guy Sunday.

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Speaker 4: I know because I know the person's family. He offered

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Speaker 5: So she had this huge recruiting weekend for the UK,

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Speaker 5: Did you leave your your friend, the guy you've been

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Speaker 3: You're leaving to go to his rival.

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Speaker 5: I mean it completely changes the landscape of UK football

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Speaker 4: wonder at some point, shann Okay, so what happened? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: everybody wants to know. What happened? First of all, what

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Speaker 4: know what's happened in the last three days.

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Speaker 3: But go ahead. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, soh December second Pizza Ranch, when we had him on,

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Speaker 2: I think it all started there. You could tell something

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Speaker 3: I want you to pull that clip and.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that. I don't think he did himself

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Speaker 2: something that has been brewing for a law time, possibly

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Speaker 2: going back to that. So six seven months ago.

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Speaker 3: It goes back before that, it goes back before And.

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Speaker 2: This kind of honestly feels like a sinking ship at Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: When you're number two guy who is best friends with

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Speaker 2: I have that clip. If you want to play.

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Speaker 4: Here, yeah, let me lead into the clip and then

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Speaker 4: have you play. Okay, all right, so let's go back

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Speaker 4: to the Stoops Vince relationship. Great friends, Yes, I don't

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Speaker 4: know if I would say best friends, but very good friends. Okay,

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Speaker 4: known each other forever. Relationship has always been one of friends,

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Speaker 4: but friends who fight.

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Speaker 3: Would you agree with that? Yeah? Kind of like brothers.

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Speaker 5: You know, you have your disagreements, but then you make up,

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Speaker 5: but cause you fight.

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Speaker 4: A little bit more than I think most like you

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Speaker 5: And we fought a couple times, Yeah, but we don't

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Speaker 5: fight consistent. No, then we kiss and make up. Move

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Speaker 5: on to the next one, they fight a little more

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Speaker 5: than okay, and they always have. I got a story

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Speaker 5: I'll tell later in the show. I will finally tell

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Speaker 5: the Michigan story.

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Speaker 4: Okay, just because I think we can now, right not,

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Speaker 4: But there was always a little bit of Vince didn't

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Speaker 4: think he got enough credit. Mark thought Vince got too

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Speaker 4: much publicity. Do you agree with that.

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Speaker 3: I think that's very fair.

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Speaker 4: I think it's always been Vince thought he didn't get

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Speaker 4: enough credit. Mark thought he got too much much credit.

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Speaker 4: I think that it's just that masculine like er thing, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I still think that it was a very good working

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Speaker 4: years ago it felt like it really started to sour.

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Speaker 4: It felt like to me, a lot of the conversations

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Speaker 3: Here that he was not the same in that interview.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I thought was gonna happen. This is what

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Speaker 5: Would he even been considered for the head coach here.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so, which I think also was

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Speaker 5: Again, that's true. You know, you never know you hit

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Speaker 3: That's a bad one.

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Speaker 4: It's bad, it's best, nothing positive about it. No one

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Speaker 4: But there's no doubt it's a terrible It's a terrible thing.

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Speaker 4: So I want to discuss more about it. We're gonna

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Speaker 4: Is he like now persona non grata? What does this

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Speaker 4: he call him the little dog, now, Shannon, that's what Drew.

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Speaker 3: If Drew was here, Drew certainly would he did.

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Speaker 2: We had some to call him the dirty dog, the

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Speaker 5: He's the dirty dog. Now he's a dirty dog, dirty dog.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we all gonna like Vance, but we all

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna he's my friend.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna hate the guy, but I'm not. I'm

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Speaker 5: Can I ask him, yes, did the ruin on the

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Speaker 4: And then the story broke, and you know, I thought

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Speaker 3: It's not a good sign if your first show is

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Speaker 5: No, he should do a Louisville show because you're not

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Speaker 2: If you gotta yeah, if you go to a Kentucky show.

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Speaker 3: You are.

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Speaker 4: He's a louisvill guy now, I mean he threw L's

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Speaker 4: He's L's up. Like that's what you are now, Like

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Speaker 5: We ain't on the scene at this point right. I've

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Speaker 4: I'm sure he is, and he knows that we all

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Speaker 6: We want you to fail now, you to lose every game, yep,

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Speaker 4: And that's it. Could have been any other team. You

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Speaker 4: They might have been my second favorite team. But you

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Speaker 3: So you went to Louisville.

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Speaker 4: I told him back in December or November whenever it was,

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Speaker 4: You know, these colors, these colors don't run right, you know.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, everyone listening thinks the same thing. Sure,

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Speaker 4: Like Captain Suntan now is the louisll Jeff Ruby's gonna

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Speaker 5: Six of the top ten high school football players in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he. I feel Vince wouldn't have

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Speaker 5: I don't think that they have they been telling these

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know.

443
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Speaker 2: I'm sure those conversations have been going on though.

444
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Speaker 3: I'm sure they have too, but I'm sure they have to.

445
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,160
Speaker 2: And Vince has to play it straight, like he still

446
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 2: has to continue to do his job. Because Evince just

447
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 2: stopped recruiting, they'd be like, what's up, man, Like you just.

448
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Speaker 4: Listen, wonder we have no official visits schedule for people

449
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Speaker 4: from Ohio.

450
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

451
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Speaker 4: I literally had on my on my book yesterday that

452
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Speaker 4: one of the topics I wanted to talk about, and

453
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 4: we didn't get to it because we had important things

454
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Speaker 4: to talk about, like the zebra and UH and then

455
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Speaker 4: the cm as.

456
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Speaker 3: But that in hindsight was a sign. Ride when we

457
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 3: have no official visits scheduled for people from Ohio, which

458
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 3: used to be his backyard, he used to kill it.

459
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 3: That sign, right, that was a sign.

460
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Speaker 5: Do you think the way they handled Wolford played any

461
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Speaker 5: factor in Vince's the frustration.

462
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Speaker 4: I don't think he and Wolford were like close, but

463
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Speaker 4: I don't think that has to do with it. Here's

464
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Speaker 4: one thing I will say for Mitch Barnhart and to

465
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Speaker 4: some extent Stoops too. They did everything over the like.

466
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Speaker 4: They gave him. Anytime he wanted.

467
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Speaker 3: To raise, they gave it. He's the highest paid tight

468
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Speaker 3: end coach in the.

469
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Speaker 5: C in the history of college football.

470
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Speaker 3: Probably.

471
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they did every he wanted to do this more

472
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Speaker 4: power to him, but they did. You can't Mitch Barnhardt

473
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Speaker 4: did everything he could. Every time he asked for something,

474
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Speaker 4: he got it. Yeah, So I don't know what else

475
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Speaker 4: you could have done. All right, twenty two eighty seven, Open.

476
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Speaker 3: Up the phones. We'll be right back. TJ. Smith, personal

477
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 3: injury attorney, called TJ. He'll make them pay now.

478
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Speaker 2: More of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's

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Speaker 2: Matt Jones.

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Speaker 3: Thank you to Stephen A for distracting me during that

481
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Speaker 3: commercial with whatever it is he's wearing on television. What

482
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Speaker 3: was that hat?

483
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Speaker 4: He took it off. Hopefully that wasn't Hopefully he didn't

484
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Speaker 4: come to work. Maybe it was the other guy's hat.

485
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Speaker 5: Well, I told you that. You know, he saw you

486
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Speaker 5: and Myron wearing your cowboy hats on Broadway.

487
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Speaker 4: Here, so it's not a cowboy hat. And secondly, what

488
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Speaker 4: never mind? I mean I did what is he wearing?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 4: Two eighty seven? I do want to see a so

491
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Speaker 4: we got people on here. I want to see a

492
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Speaker 4: quick like what's your take? I want like thirty seconds? Okay,

493
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 4: because I want to get to people, So like thirty

494
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Speaker 4: seconds of do you do you? Do you blame Vince?

495
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Speaker 4: Do you blame you blame Stoopes, you blame Mit?

496
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Speaker 3: You know Mitch? Or are you? Just like what's your take?

497
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Speaker 4: Let me ask you one thing before I go to it, though,

498
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Speaker 4: fan base, how do you think they feel.

499
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Speaker 3: About Vince going forward?

500
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 4: This was the most beloved assistant we have. If I

501
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Speaker 4: went and did a poll today, what would they say

502
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Speaker 4: about him?

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Speaker 5: I think it's a punch to the stomach to the

504
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Speaker 5: fan base, and now they are gonna say exactly what

505
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Speaker 5: we said. You like the guy, but you want him

506
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Speaker 5: to go fail and forever. I think my loyalty to

507
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Speaker 5: Vents has changed forever. And I think a lot of

508
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Speaker 5: fan base probably feel the same way. You left us

509
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Speaker 5: to go to Louisville. I'm kind of done with you.

510
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Speaker 5: I like you, but I'm kind of done with you.

511
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Speaker 4: So you think people who have like they've done. Yeah,

512
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Speaker 4: I think there's gonna be a lot of people feel

513
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Speaker 4: that way. People are gonna be frustrated at Mark that

514
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Speaker 4: it happened, and they're frustrated at Mark in general.

515
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Speaker 3: Sure, but I think.

516
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Speaker 4: They're also gonna be frustrated. This is gonna be a

517
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Speaker 4: weird situation. Like when Cal left. I thought both sides

518
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Speaker 4: ended up being better off because of it.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I agree, Shannon.

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Speaker 3: I think with this, both sides are gonna be worse

521
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Speaker 3: off because of it.

522
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And Vince is gonna be less happy there, whether

523
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Speaker 4: he realizes it or not.

524
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Speaker 3: And this is bad for Mark too.

525
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Speaker 2: And I know how fans are going to react. I

526
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Speaker 2: just took an hour of calls before the let's go, Adam, go.

527
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 4: For it, Adam thirty seconds put that shot clock on,

528
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Speaker 4: go for it.

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Speaker 7: Go hey, Matt. This was like the Hogan is the

530
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Speaker 7: third man, the John Seena turning heel.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean there's no positive he is jumping off of

533
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Speaker 7: sinking shit.

534
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Speaker 8: I don't blame Vince.

535
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Speaker 7: This is all on Mark Soops. We have heard nothing

536
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Speaker 7: from him. It's we are going back to the Joker

537
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Speaker 7: era and there's nothing stopping it. So I hope John

538
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Speaker 7: Summer all is online one.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's go to Jerry. Go ahead, Jerry.

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Speaker 9: Uh Well.

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Speaker 10: The first thing I would say is, I don't blame

542
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Speaker 10: Vince a bit. I expected something like this when I

543
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Speaker 10: listened to Ross Ellinger on your podcast talking about that

544
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 10: Kentucky was against equalizing the money and that a lot

545
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Speaker 10: of management to basketball. Kentucky wasn't going to have the

546
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Speaker 10: money that other SEC schools have. And I expected something

547
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Speaker 10: like this. And this is the last thing that showed

548
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,239
Speaker 10: him out the door. He's sorry, had to put out

549
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Speaker 10: the door.

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Speaker 3: This was it.

551
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Speaker 10: And I'll give I hate Louisville, I'll give him credit

552
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 10: ever since the hard number, they've made football priority. We

553
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 10: can catch all right, all right, all right.

554
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Speaker 3: I do have to say this, I appreciate the call.

555
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Speaker 4: I think that's a very valid point about there may

556
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 4: be worries about investment, football, et cetera. He went to Louisville, Okay,

557
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Speaker 4: this I understand. I understand him leaving. I can't believe

558
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 4: I'm the one saying this. You understand him going to Louisville.

559
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Speaker 4: Can't You can't go to Louisville. Uh huh, Nope, you can't.

560
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Like I'm a little disappointed in you, Jerry.

561
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Speaker 4: You're one of the biggest Louisville haters. I know the

562
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Speaker 4: I understand. I understand him leaving. I understand him leaving

563
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Speaker 4: a sinking ship Louisville. Let's not Let's not go soft

564
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Speaker 4: on Louisville. We did it become Okay, I hate to

565
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Speaker 4: go to Louisville.

566
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Speaker 3: It is not. It is not okay.

567
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Speaker 2: These are different colors than we had.

568
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Speaker 3: Yeah, who are you all, Jerry?

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Speaker 6: You called it for ten years hating Louisville.

570
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Speaker 4: I mean, how many people have gone to Louisville straight

571
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Speaker 4: from Kentucky? Marvin Stone, Yes, Isaiah Cummings in zam Payne

572
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Speaker 4: and at least it was to follow his day always Dad,

573
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Speaker 4: That's it. I can't think of another one like you.

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Speaker 4: Two were solved Jerry, I have disappointed in you.

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Speaker 3: You've been up a good point.

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Speaker 5: What offense had gone to Michigan State, Man.

577
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Speaker 4: I would have I would have understood, and it would

578
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Speaker 4: all be on Mark in my opinion.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but the fact you.

580
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Speaker 6: Went to the little and you went to Louisville, it's

581
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Speaker 6: still some on Mark.

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Speaker 3: But he chose to go to louis agreed, Steve, Go.

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Speaker 8: Ahead, Steve, Yeah, I'm I'm really more upset about what

584
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 8: this says about the state of the Kentucky football program

585
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 8: now and going forward. I think it's fast, bad, bad.

586
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 3: I don't disagree with that. I appreciate the call. It

587
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 3: is bad.

588
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 4: It's bad in a lot of levels. It's bad that

589
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 4: we got this year and we feel like a sinking ship.

590
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 4: Mark Stoop should be Mark Stoop should honestly be on

591
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 4: the show today. Yes he should, And if he's not

592
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 4: gonna be on the show today, he needs to be

593
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 4: somewhere today, Like you can't just let this linger with

594
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 4: no comments. I mean, I hope they don't think he

595
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 4: can just say nothing over the course of this next week.

596
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 4: I hope they don't think that's a good plan.

597
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 5: Now, we need to hear from our leader the fan

598
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 5: base needs to hear from coaching.

599
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Speaker 3: Come on and be like.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna be okay, man, I got great plans. We're

601
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 5: gonna be better than ever site.

602
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Speaker 2: You know the story is straight now, then the media

603
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: is gonna create their own narrative.

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Speaker 4: What did I say for years about cal The void

605
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 4: is going to be filled with something.

606
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Speaker 3: You want it to be filled with you.

607
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 4: Yes, you don't want other people filling the void because

608
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 4: the void is gonna get filled.

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Speaker 3: These stories are only gonna continue. Huh, Cliff, Go ahead, Cliff.

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Speaker 11: I wanted to know if you think he was listening

611
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 11: to Shannon when you all were down in Somerset doing

612
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 11: the po and seeing how much money.

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Speaker 9: Should going to basketball and football?

614
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Speaker 7: But like, realistically, take money talk.

615
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Speaker 3: It is Shannon's fault. Shannon, I have a hell you

616
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 3: did this. You are a heel. Now go ahead, we

617
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 3: fish your point, sir.

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Speaker 11: So money talks.

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Speaker 7: How much money is he getting to be the GM?

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Speaker 11: Is it more than what he was getting at Kentucky?

621
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Speaker 9: And that's that's it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate the call. I don't know if he maybe

624
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Speaker 4: he's getting more money. Uh, it can't be. I mean,

625
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Speaker 4: I appreciate calld they're not giving him. I mean, he's

626
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Speaker 4: paying one point three million dollars here.

627
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Speaker 3: Is he getting that probably? Maybe?

628
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Speaker 4: Yeah, But I can't imagine they're giving him like two

629
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Speaker 4: million dollar I mean, Louell doesn't have the money to

630
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Speaker 4: pay their players next year.

631
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 3: Yet.

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Speaker 2: I think it's roughly the same, is it that I've

633
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: heard and read?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is just he chose that and it's a

636
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 5: three year deal, so he's got a little job security

637
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 5: for three years.

638
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 3: Maybe he didn't have job security.

639
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 4: He had the job here as long as he wanted

640
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 4: to have it, Okay, I can tell you that. Yeah,

641
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 4: he would have outlasted Mark probably, so if he wanted

642
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: to be he I said this on my Twitter space.

643
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 4: He could have had a job as an ambassador for

644
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Speaker 4: the school when he didn't even want to be part

645
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 4: of football.

646
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Speaker 5: You can think about that. But you're right, he could have.

647
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 4: Had a job here for life and he chose not to,

648
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 4: which says either it was so bad he felt like

649
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 4: he had to leave, or he just made a choice

650
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Speaker 4: that I think was poor. At the same time, though

651
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 4: he went to Louisville, he didn't go to Michigan State.

652
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 4: He went to Louisville.

653
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Speaker 3: Let's not go soft, Luke. What's up, Luke?

654
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Speaker 9: Say Matt.

655
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Speaker 11: I went to the South Carolina game last year. I

656
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 11: told myself, you know, with this culture around the football program,

657
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 11: it'd be hard for me to go back to another

658
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Speaker 11: football game one. How much do you think Vince is

659
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 11: The rumors with Vince affected a culture last year and too.

660
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Speaker 3: I mean, if there's any.

661
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Speaker 11: Game I want to go to, it's against Louisville this

662
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 11: year to boo against him and those good no good.

663
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 4: Now that's better. That's better, that's better. I don't blame

664
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Speaker 4: Vince for the culture.

665
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 4: I blame Mark for the culture last year. You're the

667
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Speaker 4: leader the Vince brought in a lot of dudes that

668
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Speaker 4: were a little questionable over the years that they made work. Yes,

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Speaker 4: Lynn Bowden, they made that stuff work.

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Speaker 3: YEP.

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Speaker 4: So I'm not gonna all of a sudden say because

672
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Speaker 4: last year didn't work, it was on the same guy

673
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 4: that's been there forever doing. Mark's in charge. If the

674
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 4: culture around KSR gets bad at in Ryan's fault, it's

675
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 4: Matt's fault, not Ryan. Even if Ryan was the person

676
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 4: who hired Mario and Billy when they become it's not

677
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 4: it's my job to keep the culture good. It's on Mark,

678
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 4: So I'm not I'm not blaming Vince for the culture

679
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 4: of the program.

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00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 3: That's on Mark.

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Speaker 12: Mike.

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Speaker 9: What's up, Mike, hey man? How you doing good? Okay? Uh,

683
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Speaker 9: I just real quick, and I'm not gonna try to

684
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 9: make this too long.

685
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 3: But I got thirty seconds. You got to make it real.

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Speaker 9: Quick, Okay, season ticket holders starting eighty three. But Jerry

687
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 9: Clavern came aboard for eighty two. Actually, I love football,

688
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 9: love Kentucky football. I live in a little I gotta

689
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Speaker 9: you know. Okay, Well, anyway, the only thing I'm saying

690
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 9: is it always seems.

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Speaker 3: Worse shait to pull the trigger a little quick, sir.

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00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 3: I'll give you ten seconds to make your point quickly.

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Speaker 9: Okay. Louisville can plug in in the A C C

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Speaker 9: and go from right in a top three team right away.

695
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Speaker 9: Because they don't have no competition, we will never get

696
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 9: that point.

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00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 3: That is a good point.

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Speaker 4: And there is a part of this where you got

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Speaker 4: a better chance to win big at Louisville than you

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Speaker 4: do Kentucky. But I don't Yeah, but you're at Louisville

701
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Speaker 4: let me ask you a question. How many head coaches

702
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 4: are gonna leave the SEC to go to the ACC.

703
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 4: Probably very very few, very few. So I do think

704
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Speaker 4: that's true. It's easier to win at Louisville now than

705
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Speaker 4: it is Kentucky to win your conference.

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Speaker 5: And maybe get a chance of the play at the player.

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Speaker 3: You know what, coaches still are coming to the SEC.

708
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 3: They're not leaving the SEC. So big boy football.

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Speaker 4: When you look at you in the mirror in the morning,

710
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Speaker 4: do you have spots on your skin that worry you?

711
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 4: Are there areas that you don't they're not healing. You

712
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Speaker 4: need to get them looked at. It's the Kentucky Skin

713
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Speaker 4: Cancer Center. The experts there will have to help you.

714
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Speaker 4: They're in Owensboro, Bowling Green, Franklin, and Powdery. They'll give

715
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Speaker 4: you a quick check up to make sure you're okay.

716
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Speaker 4: You also can get a facial all the things that

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Speaker 4: we did when we were there. It's the Kentucky Skin

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Speaker 4: Cancer Center. They've treated over forty thousand patients. They're kind,

719
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Speaker 4: great staff, help you ease your mind. It's the Kentucky

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Speaker 4: Skin Cancer Center. Kentucky Skin Cancer Center dot com or

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Speaker 4: two seven eight four to two nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 3: I was worried our group had gone soft Mario when

723
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 3: everybody was like, it's Louisville.

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Speaker 5: People are like saying they don't blame Vince.

725
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, feel free to.

726
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 4: Be mad at Mark, feel free to be worried about

727
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 4: the future of the program. But this whole like, well,

728
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Speaker 4: I would have gone too well. Jerry then called Deaner

729
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 4: to be right back. What a song choice?

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Speaker 3: What it is Kentucky Sports Radio? All right, I'm gonna

731
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: go right back to Vince. We are cooked. However, it's

732
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 3: a society, as Mario just proved to me. Mario just

733
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 3: came on this airwave.

734
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 4: Shannon or came on at the break and said, you

735
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 4: see Alex Carusto got arrested for wheed. I was like, well,

736
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Speaker 4: why is it not on ESPN. They're in the NBA finals.

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00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 4: Why would that not be on ESPN? He I don't know.

738
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 4: It was on Twitter. I was like, no, it's not

739
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 4: and I hadn't seen one. I was like, I know

740
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 4: that's not true. It would be on ESPN right now.

741
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 4: And he goes, yeah, it is, and then he looked

742
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 4: it up, couldn't find. He goes, women, it's on Facebook.

743
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,479
Speaker 3: That's even Mariams. You can't believe stuff, man.

744
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 4: That's what old people are supposed to do is see

745
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 4: it on Facebook and believe it.

746
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Speaker 3: You are young.

747
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 13: I was scrolling through Twitter and I've seen his mugshot

748
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 13: and then that was I'm.

749
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 3: Shore, we saw his mugshot. Photoshop photoshop. You heard ai

750
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 3: new thing.

751
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: Or maybe something from a long time ago.

752
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 3: That's exactly what it was. Yeah, so why did you

753
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 3: believe that? You were just quoting? Now you are in

754
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Speaker 3: the news.

755
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 4: You can't just go around telling people that Alex Caruzzo

756
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 4: is getting arrested for weed.

757
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Speaker 3: If it's not even on.

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Speaker 13: Television news, I guess it was non news. It didn't happen,

759
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 13: at least not today. You even made it, even made

760
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 13: up details. He said, it happened last night after practice.

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Speaker 4: When did you get there?

762
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 3: That's what I saw in the post in Facebook.

763
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Speaker 2: Ninety percent of Facebook is lies.

764
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Speaker 3: Unbelievable.

765
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Speaker 4: But we are cooked as a society when people are like.

766
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 3: My he sounded so convincing to and he said it.

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Speaker 3: You know, just see you got arrested with me. Give

768
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Speaker 3: you an example.

769
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Speaker 4: You know, I saw this story. You know, you got

770
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 4: all that stuff going in LA and they said they

771
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Speaker 4: were mobilizing marines or National Guard or.

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Speaker 3: Something to go to La.

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Speaker 4: I haven't really followed it that closely, but I saw

774
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 4: a picture and they were like all these marines like

775
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 4: sleeping on the floor, and I was like, that's awful.

776
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 4: That outrages me. We shouldn't be sending marines anyway, certainly

777
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Speaker 4: not to sleep on the floor. And then I roised

778
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Speaker 4: it was a picture from Afghanistan.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty, and it almost got me. But you

780
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Speaker 3: know what I did. I look to make sure it

781
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 3: was right.

782
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 2: A fact check, a fact check, find another source.

783
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Speaker 3: You didn't fact check it. Yeah, you just cited Facebook.

784
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 3: You can't be doing that, all right, Jesse, go ahead,

785
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 3: Jesse thirty seconds.

786
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Speaker 12: I just man, I just had one of the most

787
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 12: cathartic moments of my life. I just saw Vince Merrow

788
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 12: in Frankfort leaving Duncan Donuts, and I got to give

789
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 12: him then much better now.

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Speaker 4: Jesse, you went to the Duncan Donuts and gave L's

791
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 4: down to Vince Merrill's going away?

792
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Speaker 3: Of course, all right, I appreciate the call.

793
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 5: I want to believe that. I want to believe his story.

794
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder if there's a way to know he's

795
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 4: in Frankfort. He likes Dunkin Donuts though I could see.

796
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:30,959
Speaker 3: And Frankfort's kind of in the middle.

797
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Speaker 4: I appreciate the call that's I'm gonna take you give

798
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 4: that more credibility than what Mario saw on Facebook.

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Speaker 3: Amy, what do you think.

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Speaker 4: Hey man?

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Speaker 14: So I agree that Mark is the leader of the team,

802
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 14: but Vince holds a lot of power too, so he

803
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 14: still can be accountable for some of the culture, so

804
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 14: that I think he has to be blamed as well

805
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 14: for that second, dude, you sold your soul. If like

806
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 14: you said, he has a job after ARC and he

807
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 14: can stay and be with Kentucky, you want ahead and

808
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 14: soldier soula here too early? I'm done with him?

809
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 3: Great? All right?

810
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 4: Yeah again metaphorically, that's what I think from friendship wise,

811
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 4: he still my friend, but I'm won't him to go

812
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 4: oh and twelve Yes, when somebody wrote me on the

813
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 4: on this text machine here and they said, Matt, I

814
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 4: wish Vince the best. I hope for him to have success.

815
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 4: He gave us a law a good time here. I

816
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 4: hope for him to have success as a human being.

817
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 4: I want him to be happy. I want him to

818
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 4: have a great life, but I want him to lose

819
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 4: every game. Shannon, like every game.

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Speaker 2: I had to, you know, set Billy straight. On the

821
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Speaker 2: pre show. He was like, you know, no, I'm going

822
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Speaker 2: to be, you know, pulling for me.

823
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 3: You can't pull for me. Billy's fired, You're gone.

824
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Speaker 2: I said the same. I like Vince as a person personally,

825
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: love the guy, but professionally, no, I'm not gonna be

826
00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: cheering for him.

827
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Speaker 6: Professionally became the host of Louisville Sports Radio LSR. I

828
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 6: want him to tank in the rating. Yes, I wish

829
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Speaker 6: for him success in life.

830
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Speaker 4: If he hosts any other well, actually, I don't want

831
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 4: him to tank in the ratings. I want them to

832
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 4: lose every game and people not want to listen because

833
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 4: they stink.

834
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Speaker 3: I still want Ryan personally to have success.

835
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Speaker 12: But.

836
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Speaker 4: When you coach a sports team, the success is the

837
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 4: success of the team, and I'm not cheering for Louisville.

838
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Speaker 4: I was disappointing Andy Basheer, Andy, what are you doing

839
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 4: wearing a Louisville hat and a Louisville show. Uh huh, okay,

840
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 4: you're a Kentucky fan. I understand you're the governor. You

841
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 4: can't go to the game and throw El's down. But

842
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 4: you don't have to wear cards. You don't have to

843
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 4: wear Cardinals stuff. Yeah, right, that's the thing. Don't be

844
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton with the Yankees hat when you grew up

845
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 4: a Cubs fan like you can't do that. Am I

846
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 4: wrong about that?

847
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: No?

848
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Speaker 3: We're dead on. He can go to the game for Louisville.

849
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Speaker 4: He can shake their hands, yes, wearing a Louisville hates

850
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Speaker 4: Mitch McConnell Louisville fan. I don't want to see him

851
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 4: in a Kentucky game in Kentucky hat. Right, you're your team.

852
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 4: I could guarantee you this if I was governor. You

853
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 4: think I'm wearing a Louisville hat. No, No, Now, I'm

854
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Speaker 4: not gonna L's down Louisville and I'll shake their hand,

855
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Speaker 4: and I'll advocate for their university, and I'd try to

856
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Speaker 4: get them in a conference that would help them because

857
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Speaker 4: that's good for the state.

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Speaker 3: But am I cheering for him?

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Speaker 2: No?

860
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Speaker 3: Can't. Can't same thing here. I got another question. I

861
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Speaker 3: gotta ask you.

862
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Speaker 5: When Kentucky football was rolling vent at his's peak, why

863
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 5: would they take away some of that control? And not

864
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 5: if they took away Ohio and handle over a lot

865
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Speaker 5: of stuff to Eddie. Why would they do that when

866
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Speaker 5: they were at its peak?

867
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Speaker 4: It was Nick rouse I think Nick Rousse said this.

868
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Speaker 4: He compared it to game of throws, and he's right

869
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 4: about that. There are two different leadership styles, right. There's

870
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Speaker 4: the we do what I say fault. I take advice,

871
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 4: I make the decision. That was like the Obama George W.

872
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 4: Bush leaders. I'm gonna listen to all y'all. But once

873
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 4: the decision's made, it's made. Then there is the I

874
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,479
Speaker 4: listen to different people based on what mood I'm in, Right,

875
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 4: that's kind of the Biden and the Trump way of

876
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 4: doing it. Now, there are virtues to each of them.

877
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 4: There there are negatives to each of them. But when

878
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 4: you're the second one, you create a game of throne

879
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 4: situation where everyone's jostling to be close to the leader and.

880
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Speaker 3: They're kind of stabbing each other to try to get

881
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Speaker 3: to the leader. Uh huh.

882
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 4: In the first situation, you know who's in charge. There's

883
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 4: no stabbing each other. They're in charge.

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00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. In the second situation, there's always like.

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Speaker 4: A no me, me, me and back, and then there's

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Speaker 4: like a lot of en if you read about the

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Speaker 4: Biden White House, if you read about the Trump White House,

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Speaker 4: that's what happened.

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Speaker 3: UK football has been that the last few years. It has.

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Speaker 4: It's been a lot of jostling to who can be

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Speaker 4: Mark's favorite, and I think that's been a part.

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Speaker 3: Of the problem.

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Speaker 4: I'll expand more on that in the next hour, because

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Speaker 4: I do think that's an issue. We'll be right back