WEBVTT - #791 Packers Unscripted: Brazil beckons

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my trusted colleague Weston had Quitz. Coming to you

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<v Speaker 1>hear from our studios at lambeau Field and Wes. I

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<v Speaker 1>apologize I'm going to dominate the early part of this

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<v Speaker 1>conversation because I have a lot to explain to our

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<v Speaker 1>viewers and listeners. There have been some technical difficulties going on.

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<v Speaker 1>To put it mildly, our last episode, which we taped

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<v Speaker 1>last Thursday, did not get posted for a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days because of these technical issues. It is available on

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<v Speaker 1>packers dot com, but video only. There are still issues

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<v Speaker 1>with regard to audio uploads and the whole podcast thing.

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<v Speaker 1>These are out of our control. They have to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the NFL's platform, and these issues, to my knowledge,

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<v Speaker 1>are They're working on things to get them resolved, but

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know when they will be resolved. So our

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<v Speaker 1>last episode is available, it was just posted late. This

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<v Speaker 1>one will be posted the same way video onpackers dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>not in podcast form, and because of all of these

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<v Speaker 1>technical issues and all of the logistics with the upcoming

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<v Speaker 1>trip to Brazil, this will be our only episode four

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<v Speaker 1>this week. We are not going to try to do

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<v Speaker 1>an episode from Brazil. There's just too much other stuff

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<v Speaker 1>going on. So I hope I did explain all that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>did I cover all the bases?

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<v Speaker 2>And until next time, He's Mike. I'm wes we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>it next time.

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<v Speaker 1>But we do have a show to get to and

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<v Speaker 1>because this is our only show this week, this will

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<v Speaker 1>focus this This show will serve as the preview for

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<v Speaker 1>Friday nights, Week one, season zero in Brazil. Our last

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<v Speaker 1>episode was we talked about all of the roster maschinations,

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<v Speaker 1>the trade, the waiver claim, backup quarterback kicker, how it

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<v Speaker 1>all shook down. But now week one is here. So

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<v Speaker 1>my question for you is, are you ready to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Brazil.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so ready. I'm so ready for this entire thing

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<v Speaker 2>to get going. I remember talking to you when I

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<v Speaker 2>came back. I mean, we had that really busy first

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<v Speaker 2>day of training camp right where we had practice in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning, I went and covered the shareholders meeting in

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<v Speaker 2>the afternoon, And that seems like a decade ago, and

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<v Speaker 2>here we are still kind of leading up to this

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<v Speaker 2>first meaningful, tangible football game, and the fact that We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to South America for the first time that the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>this is their debut in Brazil and trying to expand

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<v Speaker 2>the global footprint of this game. What it means on

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<v Speaker 2>that level, just hearing some of the guys talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that this week, but then also from the x's and

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<v Speaker 2>o's perspective, which Matt Lafleur has been hard bring on

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<v Speaker 2>big time. This is not a vacation, This is not

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<v Speaker 2>a trip. This is something where the Green bit Packers

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<v Speaker 2>have to go into this stadium against this opponent and

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<v Speaker 2>come up with a victory. Because suddenly, Michael, for as

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<v Speaker 2>much as we prepared and we team bonded and we

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<v Speaker 2>put in the hours, now it's time to play football again,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Green Bait Packers have a very difficult opponent

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<v Speaker 2>facing them in Brazil.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one hundred percent. And I don't know about you,

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<v Speaker 1>but I get the sense both last week as the

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<v Speaker 1>roster stuff sorted out, and then this week as the

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<v Speaker 1>team has gotten into the practice routine for the game

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<v Speaker 1>in Brazil and everything, I get the sense that these

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<v Speaker 1>guys in this Packer locker room, whether this game is

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<v Speaker 1>in Brazil or at lambeau Field or in the City

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<v Speaker 1>of Brotherly Love or in Timbuctoo. These guys are eager

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<v Speaker 1>to get out there and play a real football game again.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think it's it's partly it's partly the

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<v Speaker 1>way the way last season finished, both in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the late season run and the disappointment of how things

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<v Speaker 1>ended up. But it's also the youth of this team,

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<v Speaker 1>all of these young guys that are taking a step forward,

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<v Speaker 1>but also all the changes that have gone on with

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<v Speaker 1>this team. You have a brand new running back who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the new belcow running back in this offense.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a new defensive coordinator and a new approach

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<v Speaker 1>on defense. Suddenly there's also a new kicker in the mix.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, for a team like the Packers that made

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs and made a run and it is considered

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<v Speaker 1>a contender in twenty twenty four, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>change with regard to this team, and I think these

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<v Speaker 1>guys are eager to get out there and show it.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was funny too, because even though there has

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<v Speaker 2>been that amount of change, as we saw for the

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<v Speaker 2>thirty third Teams Report, this is still the youngest team

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<v Speaker 2>in the National Football League by.

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<v Speaker 1>Quite a significant margin quit.

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<v Speaker 2>Frankly, after all of that, Greenmit Packers are still the

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<v Speaker 2>youngest team in the league. But I was sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>and I was talking with Bo Melton for a story

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<v Speaker 2>I worked on that actually posted on Wednesday, and him

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the tight knit nature of that locker room.

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly with the receiving corps, that's one of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that has made that room go. But just the amount

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<v Speaker 2>of love that those players have for one another, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think some of that is steeped in. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>team and you had the team bonding and obviously winning

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of last season helps, but it's the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that they're basically all in the same social circle.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, all these receivers are pretty much the same age,

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<v Speaker 2>even the guys that are more veteran, like Josh Jacobs

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<v Speaker 2>is twenty six years old. I mean, the Green Bay

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<v Speaker 2>Packers have such a young nucleus there that has grown together,

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<v Speaker 2>that has seen, you know, themselves go through the ups

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<v Speaker 2>and the downs, and the ebbs and the flows. And

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<v Speaker 2>because of the way the Packers structured their preseason, the

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<v Speaker 2>offense only playing three snaps, the defense starting defense only

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<v Speaker 2>playing eight snaps, so many of these guys, whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>the new incoming free agents like Jacobs, like Xavier McKinney,

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<v Speaker 2>or it's just the undrafted players that made the roster.

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<v Speaker 2>So many guys are just kind of champing at the

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<v Speaker 2>bit to get out there and play football again and

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<v Speaker 2>challenge themselves. Because even though it was a sour aftertaste

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<v Speaker 2>of how things ended for the guys that came back

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<v Speaker 2>from Santa Clara, the optimism that has followed them, seeing

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<v Speaker 2>how Jordan developed in the second half, seeing how this

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<v Speaker 2>offense came together, and seeing how this defense in this

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<v Speaker 2>self belief that they've been fostering here under Jeff Haffley,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it gives them the confidence they want in

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<v Speaker 2>the early momentum. They want to try to start this

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<v Speaker 2>thing off fast. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's really there's some really interesting things about

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<v Speaker 1>this particular matchup. I started to suggest it a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit on our last show, But when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you know, these are two teams that

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<v Speaker 1>went to the playoffs last year, they finished finished the

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<v Speaker 1>season kind of you know, going in very different directions.

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<v Speaker 1>But that being said, the Greemiat Packers have a new

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<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator. The Philadelphia Eagles have a new defensive coordinator.

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<v Speaker 1>They also have a new offensive coordinator as well. Both

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<v Speaker 1>teams have a new number one running back with Saquon Barkley,

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<v Speaker 1>whom Packers are plenty familiar with, having faced the Giants

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<v Speaker 1>each of the last two years away from lambeau Field

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<v Speaker 1>and coming up short in both of those games, and

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<v Speaker 1>Barkley playing a huge role in both of those losses

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<v Speaker 1>to the Giants. The Eagles now have Barkley, the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>have Josh Jacobs. And when you know, on the subject

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<v Speaker 1>of change, I think one of the things that's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>about the Eagles and we're not there every day and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, processing all of it and covering all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you think of the mainstays over the years

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<v Speaker 1>of the Philadelphia Eagles, two of them and center Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Kelsey and defensive tackle Fletcher Cox, neither one of those

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<v Speaker 1>guys is there anymore. That's a big adjustment for those

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<v Speaker 1>for that team in the trenches on both sides of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, wouldn't you say?

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<v Speaker 2>I would say it's a huge difference maker. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that kind of quipped last week about the

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<v Speaker 2>tush push, But I mean there's so much that Kelsey

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<v Speaker 2>did that goes beyond that. As you know Kenny Clark

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<v Speaker 2>was saying this past week, he was really the general

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<v Speaker 2>up front. As talented as Lane Johnson is and as

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<v Speaker 2>talented as Jordan Myletta is, it was Jason Kelcey as

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<v Speaker 2>far as the captain up there, the communicator, the guy

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<v Speaker 2>that when you think about those really dominating Philadelphia Eagles

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<v Speaker 2>offensive lines, he was the center of that. Now Cam

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<v Speaker 2>Jurgens is the one that I think is sliding overhanding

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<v Speaker 2>those responsibilities. I'm very interested to see this next chapter

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<v Speaker 2>from Akai Becton. He transitions going from the Jets. Now

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<v Speaker 2>he goes over to Philadelphia. He's going to be making

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<v Speaker 2>a shift inside to guard after things didn't go great

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<v Speaker 2>for him at tackle. But overall, I mean the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Landon Dickerson, I mean the way that they have structured

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<v Speaker 2>this thing. They have built so many resources into that

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line. Interested to see where that goes. Defensive line wise,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're set up pretty well. Fletcher Cox was

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<v Speaker 2>a stalwart, one of the best to do it, especially

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<v Speaker 2>at his size and his position. But I mean you

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<v Speaker 2>look at last year. I mean, Jalen Carter, this guy,

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<v Speaker 2>we knew what he was athletic coming into the lead.

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<v Speaker 1>Drafted Jalen Carter because they knew that Fletcher Coss couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>play forever, right, I mean, this is the guy they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make that transition from that anchor in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the defensive line. They're trying to make that

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<v Speaker 1>as smooth as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>And with him coming in and getting six sacks right

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<v Speaker 2>off the bat last season, I think he showed his

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<v Speaker 2>natural athleticism. Now he's going to get more comfortable. The

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<v Speaker 2>expectations are sky high for him. Jordan Davis is a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that I'm also very high on. I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>a good compliment to Carter. The one change that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be very interesting though for me watching this Vic

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<v Speaker 2>Fangio defense and knowing and having such experience with what

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<v Speaker 2>Fangio has done in this league for so long, is

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<v Speaker 2>it is kind of an inside out. You know. They

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<v Speaker 2>are more geared towards their what they have in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of that defense as opposed to the edges, which

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<v Speaker 2>historically when you think of the Blitzburg schemes and some

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that he did in Chicago and obviously

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>While one of their top pass rushers Sosan Reddick. He's

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<v Speaker 1>now with the Jets and holding out for a new

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<v Speaker 1>contract and all that. The Eagles sort of got rid

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<v Speaker 1>of that that problem from a financial standpoint, but the

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<v Speaker 1>guy was also pretty darn productive as a pass rusher

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<v Speaker 1>for them, and they have to find a way to

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<v Speaker 1>replace that with Fangio scheme.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we'll see who all emerges on the edges,

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<v Speaker 2>But in terms of this early part of the season,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the interior defensive line is where they're

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<v Speaker 2>looking to hold up despite the fact that Fletcher Cox

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<v Speaker 2>is no longer there.

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<v Speaker 1>For those wondering about some of the logistics with regard

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<v Speaker 1>to this trip, the Packers are traveling to Brazil on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>It's essentially an all day flight. I've heard anything from

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<v Speaker 1>like to twelve hours that the plane will be in

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<v Speaker 1>the air. Then there will be a practice of some

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<v Speaker 1>sort on Thursday, and there will be some interviews, media availability,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of that being for the Brazilian media who

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<v Speaker 1>are covering the first NFL game in that country, and

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<v Speaker 1>then there will be sort of the I guess, the

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<v Speaker 1>long wait on Friday, all the way up until the

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<v Speaker 1>game is played in prime time. Hopefully we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have a way to watch the Chiefs and the Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>on Thursday night, like at our hotel or something. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>assuming maybe we can get together and do that to

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<v Speaker 1>pass a little bit of time. But that's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the plan for the trip itself. So packers leaving for

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<v Speaker 1>Brazil very soon. I'm just gonna throw this out there

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<v Speaker 1>to you, Wes. When you look at this, you look

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<v Speaker 1>at this game and week ones, as we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>in the past, I actually wrote a story earlier this

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<v Speaker 1>week about how weak ones can be so on predictable teams,

0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:04.760
<v Speaker 1>holding stuff back, not showing things in the preseason. They

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<v Speaker 1>got all these tweaks and whatever in the playbook, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we've already talked about all the changes with the

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<v Speaker 1>coordinators and the running backs and everything else. But what

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<v Speaker 1>is at the top of your list as a key

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<v Speaker 1>to victory for the Green Bay Packers in this matchup?

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<v Speaker 2>Winning in the trenches, and I will talk specifically on

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<v Speaker 2>the offensive line aspect of this. The Packers said they

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<v Speaker 2>have their plan for how they're going to handle right guard.

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<v Speaker 2>They know what they're going to do on Friday night.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know yet if it's Sean Ryan, if it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the rookie first round pick Jordan Morgan,

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<v Speaker 2>or accommodation of both like it was at the end

0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:42.480
<v Speaker 2>of last season with John Runyon and Sean Ryan managing

0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:45.679
<v Speaker 2>that position. We'll have to wait and see. But if

0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.680
<v Speaker 2>the Packers can hold that Fangio front at Bay, we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen time and time again what Jordan Love can do,

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<v Speaker 2>being able to manipulate the pocket, being able to look

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<v Speaker 2>downfield towards his weapons. Green Bay Packers, Mike, You're not

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<v Speaker 2>gone wood for it, but floor disgusted it this earlier

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<v Speaker 2>this week. This is the healthiest they've been going into

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<v Speaker 2>a season under Matt Lafleur, because if you remember last year,

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<v Speaker 2>even though they got through the preseason okay, then you

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<v Speaker 2>had Christian Watson developed the hamstring injury in a practice

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<v Speaker 2>in that little bye week or whatever you want to

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<v Speaker 2>call it. Before the opener. They ended up starting Malik Heath.

0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.079
<v Speaker 2>Maliek Heith ended up becoming the first undrafted rookie to

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<v Speaker 2>start at receiver for the Packers in a Week one

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<v Speaker 2>opener since nineteen seventy, since the merger. This year, you

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<v Speaker 2>have everybody available maliek Heith, depending on how you look

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<v Speaker 2>at it is probably five or six on the depth chart.

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<v Speaker 2>This is an opportunity I feel like for the Green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay Packers to protect the quarterback and let Jordan Love

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<v Speaker 2>go to work. You want to respect everything that Philadelphia

0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:46.200
<v Speaker 2>has to offer. They were a very good football team,

0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.880
<v Speaker 2>a Super Bowl contender, a Super Bowl favorite basically through

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<v Speaker 2>December first of last year, but things went the opposite direction.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can control the physicality of this game, if

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<v Speaker 2>you can come out fast, if you can make them

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<v Speaker 2>kind of second guests themselves thinking, okay, wait, is this

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<v Speaker 2>going to be any different than the end of last season.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the momentum you have to seize because we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>it time and time again with Fangio, whether it was

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<v Speaker 2>in Denver, whether it was in San Francisco, whether it

0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:12.839
<v Speaker 2>wasn't Chicago, and the list goes on and on. If

0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.960
<v Speaker 2>you allow that front to start penetrating, that's where everything

0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:17.280
<v Speaker 2>else gets set up defensively.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm with you there, because when I think about

0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:24.200
<v Speaker 1>when I think about facing Vic Fangio defenses, I always

0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:31.600
<v Speaker 1>think about those moments where Fangio dials something up in

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<v Speaker 1>a certain situation to get that negative play, the tackle

0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:38.080
<v Speaker 1>for loss, the sack, the play that the play that

0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:41.560
<v Speaker 1>just disrupts the drive right. And I think if the

0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Packers can get something going with Josh Jacobs to where

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<v Speaker 1>their play action game can keep that Fangio defense, honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I think having watched, and this is really whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>been Aaron Rodgers or Jordan Love at the controls of

0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:02.040
<v Speaker 1>a Matt Lafleur offense. Lafleur's offense is at its best

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<v Speaker 1>and in its best rhythm and at its most dangerous

0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:10.000
<v Speaker 1>when the play action game is working. And you can't

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<v Speaker 1>get the play action game working until you get something

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<v Speaker 1>going on the ground. And that's where you talk about

0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:18.520
<v Speaker 1>controlling things in the trenches so that you move the

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<v Speaker 1>line of scrimmage a little bit. You get them to

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<v Speaker 1>have to respect Josh Jacobs, and then they got to

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<v Speaker 1>play you honestly runner pass and that play action I

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<v Speaker 1>think becomes huge that the uh with the baturation of

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<v Speaker 1>the weapons around Jordan Love at receiver and tight end.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really excited to see what this offense can do

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<v Speaker 1>when that play action game gets rolled.

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<v Speaker 2>This game will be one and loss based on explosive plays.

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<v Speaker 2>And whether that's the eighteen plus passes, eighteen plus yard passes,

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<v Speaker 2>or twelve plus yard runs, that's the domino effect that

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<v Speaker 2>you're looking for. Because conversely, Philadelphia with aj Brown, with Smith,

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<v Speaker 2>with all these different guys that they can throw at you. Obviously,

0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:02.320
<v Speaker 2>the Packers is you talked about, have seen Saquon Barkley.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw how Saquon Barkley's explosive plays affected last year's

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<v Speaker 2>game against the New York Giants. Absolutely, those are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the huge aspect of this that the Packers

0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:13.440
<v Speaker 2>are going to to buoy themselves with to try to

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<v Speaker 2>find that victory. And all that being said, when you

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<v Speaker 2>bring it back to Josh Jacobs, I know I remember

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<v Speaker 2>sitting at the table with Matt Lafleur in Orlando at

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL Owners meetings and he was talking about, you know,

0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:24.760
<v Speaker 2>they aren't sure if he's going to be a three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred touch guy here like he was in Vegas. That's

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<v Speaker 2>typically not the way the Packers have gone about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know he can do it. Yeah, And especially

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<v Speaker 2>in this early part of the season where you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out, okay, exactly what you have now that

0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:39.040
<v Speaker 2>ag Dillon's not there as a compliment, you have Marshawn

0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Lloyd coming back. You practice this week on the hamstring.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see whether or not he's in the cards for

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<v Speaker 2>Friday night. Emmanuel Wilson is healthy again, could he be

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<v Speaker 2>an RB two. Those are things that we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>learn throughout the course of the season, throughout the course

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<v Speaker 2>of September. But from day one, you know what you

0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.120
<v Speaker 2>have in Josh Jacobs and being able to keep him healthy,

0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:59.560
<v Speaker 2>keep him fresh, and have him so motivated to show

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<v Speaker 2>that he's one of the top running backs in this league.

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<v Speaker 2>I just look at him as the perfect compliment right

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<v Speaker 2>now to what Jordan Love is doing in that in

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<v Speaker 2>that quarterback spot, and offensively how the Packers want to

0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:10.680
<v Speaker 2>spread this thing out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and defensively, for me, I know that Jeff Hafley

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<v Speaker 1>has been you know, it's been about the play style

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<v Speaker 1>and wanting to wanting to attack the football, take the

0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:24.920
<v Speaker 1>ball away and all that. And the Packers they need

0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.480
<v Speaker 1>to improve their takeaways, they need to get more turnovers.

0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:29.800
<v Speaker 1>On defense, they were you know, toward the bottom of

0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:32.240
<v Speaker 1>the league in that category last year, and that is

0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:35.240
<v Speaker 1>something that that can definitely change and they are going

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<v Speaker 1>to try to change that equation. But when I look

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<v Speaker 1>at this matchup in particular, and when I look at

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<v Speaker 1>guys like Sakuon Barkley and Jalen Hurts, the quarterback for

0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:47.080
<v Speaker 1>the Philadelphia Eagles, and the fact that this is Week

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<v Speaker 1>one and you've had a whole bunch of defensive starters

0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.520
<v Speaker 1>who you know, they only played a handful of snaps

0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:57.000
<v Speaker 1>in the preseason. Everything else has been practice, joint practices,

0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.960
<v Speaker 1>et cetera. To me, this game comes down to tap

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<v Speaker 1>cling because when we've seen Saquon Barkley do his damage

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<v Speaker 1>against the Packers, it's because he's breaking tackles. And when

0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:10.400
<v Speaker 1>you look back at that game two years ago in Philadelphia,

0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.520
<v Speaker 1>when in the first half, in particular, when Jalen Hurts

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of running all over Green Bay and the

0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:19.159
<v Speaker 1>Philly or sorry, the Phillies. The Eagles were building that

0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:24.399
<v Speaker 1>big lead. The Packers usually had somebody in position to

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<v Speaker 1>make the play, but they missed the tackle. And now

0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:30.280
<v Speaker 1>those guys Saquon Barkley and Jalen Hurts are paid to

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<v Speaker 1>break tackles. That's part of that. That's part of the deal, right,

0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:37.720
<v Speaker 1>So you're not gonna make every single tackle, but man,

0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:39.960
<v Speaker 1>if you can make some of these one on one

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<v Speaker 1>stops against these guys in the open field and not

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<v Speaker 1>let them slip through to them where they get in,

0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:48.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, more into the open space, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to cut back on the explosives and try to,

0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:55.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, keep this thing contained because uh and we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't even really talked too much about the Eagles receivers yet.

0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:02.240
<v Speaker 1>But but Barkley and Hurts are just our dangerous playmakers

0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:05.080
<v Speaker 1>well and they can turn a game around in a hurry.

0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:07.640
<v Speaker 2>They knew they needed a guy like Barkley. I think

0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:10.159
<v Speaker 2>last year proved it. You saw with Jalen Hurts, he

0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:12.480
<v Speaker 2>was my quarterback in fantasy. It was not a great

0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:15.840
<v Speaker 2>season for hurts and takeaways and turnovers became a huge

0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:17.800
<v Speaker 2>issue for them, and not being able to overcome those

0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:21.080
<v Speaker 2>defensively and being able to get a guy like Barkley

0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:22.840
<v Speaker 2>back in there, being able to have somebody that's going

0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.760
<v Speaker 2>to compliment and really be able to be a bell

0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:27.159
<v Speaker 2>call when they need him to be, but also his

0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:30.080
<v Speaker 2>running style and how it could actually help maybe make

0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:33.119
<v Speaker 2>hurts a little bit more elusive. That's the combination they

0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:36.040
<v Speaker 2>wanted to get back to with this move. And even

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<v Speaker 2>more than that, I think for the Packers' standpoint, it

0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.359
<v Speaker 2>comes back to the takeaway aspect of it as well.

0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:44.000
<v Speaker 2>If you're able to get an interception, if you're able

0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.080
<v Speaker 2>to get a punch out like what happened last year

0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.560
<v Speaker 2>with Barkley, that almost saved the Packers in that game too.

0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:50.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean they had three and out afterwards, but otherwise

0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:52.639
<v Speaker 2>it looked like that could have been a turning point

0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:54.560
<v Speaker 2>when they got that football. Even though it's kind of

0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:58.600
<v Speaker 2>a wonky play. Now you flash forward into this season

0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:02.880
<v Speaker 2>and hey that everything is structured with this matchup. There's

0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:04.840
<v Speaker 2>gonna be unknowns, there's gonna be things they're gonna throw

0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:07.679
<v Speaker 2>at you. You're gonna have to overcome those moments of adversity,

0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:11.560
<v Speaker 2>but seizing that momentum back and finding outlets to you

0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:14.480
<v Speaker 2>really control the tempo. This football game is gonna be

0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:17.320
<v Speaker 2>paramount because again, as I allude to earlier with AJ Brown,

0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:19.159
<v Speaker 2>who's gonna end up going down as probably one of

0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:22.040
<v Speaker 2>the best trades in the modern era for Philadelphia being

0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:24.920
<v Speaker 2>able to acquire him a few years ago, DeVante Smith

0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.679
<v Speaker 2>and where his arrow is pointing right now, they have

0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:30.160
<v Speaker 2>guys much like with Christian Watson that can just completely

0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:32.200
<v Speaker 2>take the top off the defense in addition to dicing

0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:34.439
<v Speaker 2>you up underneath if you let them sure, and if

0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Jalen Hurts gets in that rhythm, in addition to all

0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:39.919
<v Speaker 2>the ways that they can get you out of the backfield,

0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:42.879
<v Speaker 2>that is the path to victory for Philadelphia. So from

0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Green Bay standpoint, getting after him early and often it's

0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:46.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna be paramount.

0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we'll see, we'll see where things land on

0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:53.560
<v Speaker 1>special teams in this game. Of course, now we've been

0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:56.440
<v Speaker 1>talking about this new kickoff thing, it's gonna be for real.

0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Now we don't know, I mean how much we're teams

0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:01.600
<v Speaker 1>just keeping under wraps in the preseason, not really showing

0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:04.080
<v Speaker 1>what they were going to do, et cetera. The Packers

0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:07.120
<v Speaker 1>have a brand new kicker and undrafted rookie and Brandon Arveson,

0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:12.440
<v Speaker 1>and we'll have to see how that goes. Anything else

0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:15.040
<v Speaker 1>that stands out to you in any phase of the

0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:18.679
<v Speaker 1>games as something that's a key to victory here for

0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Green Bay, because I'll just say this, in twenty twenty two,

0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:29.679
<v Speaker 1>Packers had a rough season butt and other than the

0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:32.159
<v Speaker 1>final game against Detroit when there was the shot to

0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:34.399
<v Speaker 1>get into the playoffs and the Packers failed and didn't

0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:37.679
<v Speaker 1>get in. To me, there was no more depressing loss

0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:40.320
<v Speaker 1>of the entire twenty twenty two season than the loss

0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:43.000
<v Speaker 1>in London against the Giants, and not just because it

0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:46.119
<v Speaker 1>started a losing streak, but everything that goes into it,

0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:50.760
<v Speaker 1>all the long travel, the logistics, figuring everything out, and

0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:54.280
<v Speaker 1>just how exhausting the whole process is to play these

0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:57.359
<v Speaker 1>international games. To come away with a loss was just

0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:01.399
<v Speaker 1>it was deflating. It was depressing. Getting a win in

0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:03.840
<v Speaker 1>this game, and I know the Eagles are after the

0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:06.240
<v Speaker 1>same thing clearly, but getting a win in this game

0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:10.639
<v Speaker 1>could be just enormous to set the table for twenty

0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:11.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty four for the Packers.

0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:14.199
<v Speaker 2>And if you get off to a fast start sustaining that.

0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:16.000
<v Speaker 2>That's what made the gut loss against the Giants so

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<v Speaker 2>gut wrenching is the fact that through the first half

0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:19.560
<v Speaker 2>it looked like that was just gonna be something that

0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:21.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, they could control this thing and you know,

0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:23.280
<v Speaker 2>walk away with a win against the Giants team that

0:22:23.320 --> 0:22:25.119
<v Speaker 2>not a lot of people are expecting out of, you know,

0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:27.800
<v Speaker 2>much from at that time. And then lo and behold.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously give credit to the Giants. They were

0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:31.760
<v Speaker 2>much better that season than we all thought they ended up.

0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:33.440
<v Speaker 1>They ended up going to the playoffs and winning a

0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:34.040
<v Speaker 1>playoff game.

0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Resurgent year for Saquon Barkley that season, that got him

0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:39.520
<v Speaker 2>back on track with his career. But the Packers wi

0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:41.800
<v Speaker 2>let that one out of their grasp. Yep, this is

0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:43.760
<v Speaker 2>going to be the difference now, And to be honest

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<v Speaker 2>with you, I'm very curious to see what that environment

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<v Speaker 2>is like and how the Packers handle it. I mean, again,

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<v Speaker 2>it could be more like that soccer type style where

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<v Speaker 2>you're just gonna have people cheering and ranting and raving

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<v Speaker 2>just for sixty minutes regardless of who has the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>I could see people being that energetic and that ex

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<v Speaker 2>zuberant about this. Managing those elements. The Packers have done

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<v Speaker 2>everything they can do to prepare for this last Thursday,

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<v Speaker 2>going out on lambeau Field, predicting and kind of laying

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<v Speaker 2>out their entire day like a game day, and then

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<v Speaker 2>having you know, that practice out here. All those things

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<v Speaker 2>are part of the equation in this It is. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a huge game, it's an international showcase, but it is

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<v Speaker 2>just a game, and it's a Week one opener in

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<v Speaker 2>regardless you win, loser, draw, you have to come back

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<v Speaker 2>here at Lambeufield next week and face the Indianapolis Colts.

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<v Speaker 2>The gauntlet has begun. There's no better way to start that, though,

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<v Speaker 2>than a victory in what is supposed to be a

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<v Speaker 2>road matchup in probably a much more favorable crowd, I

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<v Speaker 2>would say, Mike, than what they would have seen at

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<v Speaker 2>the Link.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is. I think it is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a much more favorable crowd for the Packers than

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<v Speaker 1>than what they would get at the Link. It's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because over the years in Philadelphia, things have gone either

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<v Speaker 1>way for the Packers, right. There have been some there

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<v Speaker 1>have been some really really tough and in fact, some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of blowout losses, and there have been some really

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<v Speaker 1>really uplifting victories as well. I do think, much like

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<v Speaker 1>London a couple of years ago, I do think the

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<v Speaker 1>crowd is going to be in green Bay's favor in

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<v Speaker 1>this from what we know about the Packers fans in Brazil,

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers fans in South America. So hopefully the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>can can take advantage of that because it was something

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<v Speaker 1>they did not take advantage of two years ago at

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<v Speaker 1>Tottenham Hotspur.

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<v Speaker 2>You take advantage of it. You have nine home games

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the season. It's right, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the other aspect of this. Nine home games and seven

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<v Speaker 2>away the rest of the way, So huge opportunity for

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<v Speaker 2>green Bay and I think that's the biggest point that

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Laflor's beendrilling home. And again, listen to guys talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the locker room this week. Everybody understands the business

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<v Speaker 2>aspect of this thing. And while it is a long

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<v Speaker 2>freaking flight and you better have something either keep your

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<v Speaker 2>mind occupied or sleep, this is also something where the

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<v Speaker 2>Greenwit Packers just have to go into that stadium like

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<v Speaker 2>it's any other NFL venue.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, Well with that, we'll call it a rap

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<v Speaker 1>on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow

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