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Speaker 1: The history of the border and its enforcement begins in

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Speaker 1: two Mexican American War and a curl of indigenous people's

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Speaker 1: three Gasden Purchase, and of course, through the eighteen eighty

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Speaker 1: two Chinese Exclusion Act and numerous other explicit attempts to

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Speaker 1: it weaves its way through the Mexican Revolution and the

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Speaker 1: The Border patrol story itself begins in May nineteen twenty four,

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Speaker 1: and in the ninety nine years since it has encompassed

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Speaker 1: agency in the federal government. People from the colonial periphery

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Speaker 1: have always migrated to the metropol. It's why a man

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Speaker 1: in my country second national anthem, and why every four

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Speaker 1: years France accepts black Frenchmen onto its football team before

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Speaker 1: Migration to the United States is no different. Climate change

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Speaker 1: in US imperiodism have destabilized and impoverished nations from the

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Speaker 1: Americas to Afghanistan and driven people to the US border

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Speaker 1: looking for a better life. What's distinct about the US

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Speaker 1: But the US border is much bigger than the land

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Speaker 1: the United States, the chances are that you live in

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Speaker 1: the Border Enforcement Zone. This swath of territory outside the

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Speaker 1: constitution has been established since the Immigration and Nationality Act

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Speaker 1: of nineteen fifty two. Established at a reasonable distance of

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Speaker 1: means that CBP agents can search vehicles and vessels to

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Speaker 1: a domicile. The Fourth Amendment, part of a foundational bill

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Speaker 1: when you're near the border, and all encompassing history of

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Speaker 1: this podcast. Even a history of the Southwest border could

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Speaker 1: skim the high points here. Let's start with a Gadsden purchase,

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Speaker 1: when a party of military surveyors first bumped into to

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Speaker 1: The southern border is no more obvious today than it

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Speaker 1: These surveyors were in the process of finalizing most of

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Speaker 1: In Hoocumber, the thirty foot trump wall pushes right up

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Speaker 1: much as there can be any logic, and spending twenty

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Speaker 1: always been this way. Fear reference here in Reagan and

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Speaker 3: Ask you what you would do about Cuba.

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Speaker 4: But now I can hold you.

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Speaker 5: Now we're going to have some questions from the audience.

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Speaker 3: Yes, my name's David Grosberg, and I'd like to know

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Speaker 6: Who are addressing that?

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Speaker 8: He was looking right at you, I said he was love.

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Speaker 6: I'd like to see something done about the illegal alien

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Speaker 9: That problem wouldn't come up.

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Speaker 6: Those people are here, I would reluctantly say I think

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Speaker 10: Is giving to their neighbors.

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Speaker 6: But it has the problem has to be solved. The

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Speaker 6: relations with Mexico. The answer to your question is much

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Speaker 6: more fundamental than whether they attend Houston schools. It seems

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Speaker 6: Six and eight year old kids being made, you know,

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Speaker 6: People, strong people.

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Speaker 10: Part of my family is in Mexican.

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Speaker 5: Then I added that I think the time has come

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Speaker 5: better relationship than we've ever had. And I think but

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Speaker 5: They have a problem of forty to fifty percent unemployment.

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Speaker 5: Now this cannot continue without the possibility arising with regard

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Speaker 5: we work out some recognition of our mutual problems make

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Speaker 5: it possible for them to come here legally with a

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Speaker 5: they pay taxes here, and when they go on to

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Speaker 1: The mutineer of border enforcement began. As far as we

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Speaker 1: strategy would long outlive his career with border patrol. The

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Speaker 1: General Janet Reno announced the start of Operation Gatekeeper. The

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Speaker 1: more easily captured. There were already fences in nineteen ninety four,

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Speaker 1: Anti migrant rhetoric was already there too. California Governor Pete

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Speaker 1: Wilson became an outspoken advocate for Prop One eighty seven,

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Speaker 1: to undocumented people. Here's a clip of Wilson's re election ad.

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Speaker 4: They keep coming two million illegal immigrants in California. The

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Speaker 4: federal government won't stop them at the border, yet requires

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Speaker 4: us to pay billions to take care of them. Governor

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Speaker 4: Pete Wilson sent the National Guard to help the border patrol.

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Speaker 4: But that's not all.

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Speaker 11: For Californias who work hard, pay taxes and obey the laws.

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Speaker 11: I'm suing to force the federal government to control the border,

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Speaker 11: and I'm working to deny state services to illegal emigrants.

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Speaker 4: Enough is enough, Governor Pete Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Under the operation, a much higher number of agents were

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Speaker 1: low wages in Mexico. To learn a little bit more

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Speaker 7: Operation Gatekeeper started in nineteen ninety four, in October of

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Speaker 1: Alan Berson, US attorney in San Diego, was named the

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Speaker 12: Neither side claims it, but Gatekeeper was probably the most

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Speaker 1: But in fact, while apprehensions did drop in San Diego,

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Speaker 1: The Border Patrol has a long tradition of literally getting

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Speaker 7: What they would do is they would get there first

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Speaker 7: they come. They get rid of the witnesses. They set

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Speaker 1: Here's John Carlos Free, a journalist who covered CIIT cover ups,

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Speaker 13: Within the victual agency of the US Border Patrol, there

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Speaker 13: Anastasio Hernandez Rojas, border Patrol agents deleted video, they collected

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, Border Patrol was ordered to disband

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Speaker 7: So then they said that they disbanded them because we

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Speaker 1: Of Course, the vast majority of people whose families will

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Speaker 1: and of course Border Patrol has long rooted links to

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Speaker 7: There have been some definite changes in the border patrol,

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Speaker 1: Of course, this kind of language isn't just restricted to

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Speaker 3: The US has become a dumping ground for everybody else's problems.

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Speaker 9: They're not sending you.

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Speaker 3: They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're

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Speaker 3: bringing those problems with those. They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime,

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Speaker 3: they're rapists, and some are assumer good people.

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Speaker 1: There has been white supremacist violence at the border ever

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Speaker 1: since Duke and long before. Often it's been at the

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Speaker 1: hands of groups outside of the state. Sometimes it's been

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Speaker 1: in the hands of the state in Arizona, groups like

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Speaker 1: Arizona Border Ricon and Minute Men American Defense have terrorized

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Speaker 1: border communities for decades, engage renewed momentum from Trump's consistent

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Speaker 1: demonization of migrants. I spent a bit of time looking

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Speaker 1: for them and the desert in Arizona last week, but

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Speaker 1: I didn't see much, not that I really wanted to.

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Speaker 1: Interaction with these militias, probably far more off and than

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Speaker 1: we have documented evidence for, can be fatal, just like

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Speaker 1: interaction with customs and border protection. Here's just one example,

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Speaker 1: called from David Newitt's excellent book, and hell followed with her.

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Speaker 1: On May thirtieth, two thousand and nine, Seana Ford, Jason

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Speaker 1: Eugene Bush, and Albert Gacxiola, all members of Ford's Vigilante group.

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Speaker 1: Men at Man American Defense, forced their way into Raoul

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Speaker 1: Flores Junior's home in Araavika, Arizona, by pretending to be

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Speaker 1: border patrol agents. The group planned to steal and sell

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Speaker 1: drugs they thought Flores had.

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Speaker 10: In his house.

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Speaker 1: The FBI knew about this, but did nothing to stop them.

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Speaker 1: Finding no drugs in the house, c Vigilante's murdered Flores

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Speaker 1: and his nine year old daughter. Briisnia Flora's wife and

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Speaker 1: Blissenia's mother, Gina Marie Gonzalez, was shot three times. She

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Speaker 1: played dead, but when attackers returned, she exchanged fire with them,

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Speaker 1: using her husband's handgun. In doing so, she hit Bush.

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Speaker 1: Bush had proviously been charged with a September nineteen twenty

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Speaker 1: seven execution of an Aryan Nation associate for the supposed

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Speaker 1: crime of being a race traitor. Both Ford and Bush

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Speaker 1: are currently on death row in Arizona. The KKK was

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Speaker 1: not the only group recruiting children for border patrolling. Since

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Speaker 1: the mid nineteen eighties, the Border Patrol's Explorer Program has

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Speaker 1: recruited young men and women of high school age. The

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Speaker 1: program is charted through Learning for Life, which is a

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Speaker 1: subsidiary of the Scouts of America. For kids, often the

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Speaker 1: children of immigrants living in border towns where industry has

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Speaker 1: long since gone in a decent wage is hard to

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Speaker 1: come by, the program offers the chance at a starting

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Speaker 1: salary of sixty two thousand dollars, twice a median income

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Speaker 1: in some of these towns. Young explorers will learn tracking, survival, shooting,

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Speaker 1: and how to detain and process on documented migrants, people

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Speaker 1: who in some cases are walking in the footsteps of

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Speaker 1: their own parents. According to an article by Moraling Music

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Speaker 1: in the Nation, young Explorers have to earn the right

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Speaker 1: to their uniform by participating in their sixty hour Basic

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Speaker 1: ex Explorer Academy, of which they learned CPR drills and

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Speaker 1: the methods of conducting vehicle stops. It also offers courses

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Speaker 1: in radio communications, public speaking, report writing, and ethics and integrity,

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Speaker 1: and introduces the youth to criminal juvenile immigration of Fourth

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Speaker 1: Amendment law. While I was writing so checked out the

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Speaker 1: San Diego sector page, which seems to show young people running, shooting,

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Speaker 1: and one who looks like he's just been mased in

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Speaker 1: the face. The next photo on the Facebook page dedicated

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Speaker 1: to this Border Patrol sector shows a man in handcuffs.

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Speaker 1: Above this is a video of someone dropping a chilt

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Speaker 1: from the top of the border fence. Without figures from

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Speaker 1: the CVP, it's hard to tell if participation in the

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Speaker 1: Explorers has dropped as public awareness of family separation assault

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Speaker 1: anw the behavior doesn't exactly fit with the Border Patrol's

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Speaker 1: motto on a first has spread. I asked Jen for

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Speaker 1: her take on the Explorer program.

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Speaker 7: Well, I call it Border patrol youth because it reminds

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Speaker 7: me a lot of the hipper youth, where we go

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Speaker 7: into the high schools and we get the kids that

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Speaker 7: are in trouble, and typically they are Latino dominant high schools,

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Speaker 7: and we teach them how to be many Border patrol agents,

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Speaker 7: and we teach them to hate somebody else instead of themselves.

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Speaker 7: So we indoctrinate them into the same stuff that I

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Speaker 7: was indoctrinating in too. But it's even gone so far

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Speaker 7: and now as to they do the dog and pony

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Speaker 7: shows at the elementary school, so they're getting them when

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Speaker 7: they're like six seven years old, and they go there

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Speaker 7: with you a little Border Patrol bulletproofess and put them

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Speaker 7: on them and take pictures and put it on social media,

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Speaker 7: and they have them sit in their trucks and turn

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Speaker 7: the signs on and all this other stuff.

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Speaker 1: That indoctrination is crucial to border patrol culture. And to

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Speaker 1: be honest, the reason I wanted to talk to Jen

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Speaker 1: was to understand it better. In Occomber, I see a

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Speaker 1: young Border patrol agent, a woman giving volunteers rights. I'm

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Speaker 1: not about to get into a Border Patrol truck. Myself,

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Speaker 1: and I wasn't going to get a responsive by asked

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Speaker 1: the agent how she squared up her role in holding

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Speaker 1: people in the desert with the fact that some volunteers

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Speaker 1: said she'd spend her own money buying supplies. Jen said

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Speaker 1: that this kind of behavior can be pretty common with

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Speaker 1: young agents.

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Speaker 7: I intended to go to law school to be a

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Speaker 7: civil rights attorney when I joined the Border Patrol, and

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Speaker 7: for me, I ignored my core values and ignored that I

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Speaker 7: was enforcing laws that sent thousands of human beings to

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Speaker 7: their deaths because I felt like I was trying to survive.

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Speaker 7: I was raped in the academy by a fellow agent,

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Speaker 7: and they covered that up, and I was really trying

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Speaker 7: to get out of the South and start my life.

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Speaker 7: I oftould say, like, especially with female agents, they calls

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Speaker 7: it verse five percent, because there's never been more than

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Speaker 7: five percent of women in the Border Patrol rates. And

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Speaker 7: they say, oh, it's because it's very hard. It's not

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Speaker 7: because it's very hard. I mean, it is very hard

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Speaker 7: to get through, but it's also it's because there's actually

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Speaker 7: assaulting us all the time in the academy and lassing us.

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Speaker 7: So I go back and forth in my mind, and

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Speaker 7: I would imagine this young woman. You know, she has

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Speaker 7: days where she arrests some pretty decent criminals every now

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Speaker 7: and then once in a blue moon, but the majority

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Speaker 7: of them, if she's paying attention and not completely self absorbed,

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Speaker 7: she'll realize that they're not criminals and their families just

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Speaker 7: simply seeking asylum. So she at some point has to

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Speaker 7: decide in her mind, is this what I got into?

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Speaker 7: Is this what I want to do with my life?

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Speaker 1: In the wake of nine to eleven and quite telling me,

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Speaker 1: the Border Patrol moved from oversight by the Department of

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Speaker 1: Justice to the new Department of Homeland Security. This move

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Speaker 1: from Justice as Security has been echoed in its recruiting,

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Speaker 1: which once drew heavily on those with humanitarian aid experience

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Speaker 1: and now tries to appeal to veterans of the two

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Speaker 1: decades of war that have accompanied the growth of DHS

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Speaker 1: Since two thousand and one, when the DHS was first established,

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Speaker 1: the name struck many as problematic. In the two thousand

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Speaker 1: and two article in The New York Times, Elizabeth Becker

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Speaker 1: wrote that the name had worrying similarities to the way

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Speaker 1: the Nazis talked about their fatherland, and it didn't really

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Speaker 1: fit with the way Americans spoke. Nobody in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and one was talking about the homeland. For two decades

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Speaker 1: and billions of dollars later, it's hard to find much

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Speaker 1: in the way of criticism of the agency in DC,

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Speaker 1: despite the fact that the twenty twenty two budgets of

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Speaker 1: CBP and ICE was sixteen and eight billion, respectively, and

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Speaker 1: every year since two thousand and one, DHS has obtained

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Speaker 1: more guns, more drones, and more surveillance technology that is

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Speaker 1: inevitably used to spy on citizens as well as non citizens.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety five, there are about four thousand CBP agents.

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Speaker 1: By twenty twenty there were twenty thousand, with seventeen thousand

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Speaker 1: stations on the southern border. This is a slight drop

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Speaker 1: from a peak of just over twenty one thousand. Under Obama,

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Speaker 1: who is often called the deporter in chief, is fondness

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Speaker 1: for expelling people from the United States for crimes like

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Speaker 1: having a PieP or financial misconduct. There so called aggravated

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Speaker 1: felonies and crimes of moral turpitude that only exist for

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Speaker 1: non citizens. These agents today have the ability to operate

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Speaker 1: in what the ACLU calls a constitution free zone and

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Speaker 1: can conduct suspicion free searches of electronic devices, use cell

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Speaker 1: site simulators, and sweep up data about thousands of people

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Speaker 1: never accused of any crime. One of the more notable

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Speaker 1: examples of this happened only a few yards from where

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Speaker 1: I was recording last week in Santasidro. It's a story

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Speaker 1: worth recounting in detail because it brings together the themes

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Speaker 1: we've spoken about so far, demonization of migrants, government overreach,

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Speaker 1: and a frank disregard for international and national law. In

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Speaker 1: late twenty eighteen, I was enjoying a break from work

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Speaker 1: in a caravan near in Sonata. If you think back

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Speaker 1: to that time, right before the midterms, you might remember

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Speaker 1: some of the rhetoric thats circulated around large group of

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Speaker 1: migrants making their way to the southern border. I'll play

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Speaker 1: some of the clips from Fox that MPR cut together

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Speaker 1: in their coverage of the issue.

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Speaker 8: The sympathetic, overwrought coverage of this invading horde is calling

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Speaker 8: it a caravan is a misnomer in a frankly sick name.

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Speaker 10: Or sample the Chipper Morning show, Fox and Friends.

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Speaker 14: I've gotten so many email from people who said, don't

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Speaker 14: call it a caravan, call it an invasion.

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Speaker 10: Yes, Is that fair? Host Steve Doocy put the question

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Speaker 10: to conservative pundit Michelle Melkin. Of course it is.

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Speaker 14: It is a full scale invasion by a hostile force,

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Speaker 14: and it requires our president and our commander in chief

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Speaker 14: to use any means necessary to protect our sovereignty.

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Speaker 10: CNN's Brian Stelter found that Fox News featured segments using

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Speaker 10: the phrase invasion more than sixty times this month about

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Speaker 10: the migrants. On Fox Business Network, lou Dobbs's program invoked

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Speaker 10: it dozens of times. Trump ordered five thousand troops to

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Speaker 10: the border. He tweeted yesterday, quote, this is an invasion

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Speaker 10: of our country, and Trump has, without evidence, claimed gang

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Speaker 10: members and criminals and Middle Easterners are among them. Over

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Speaker 10: on Fox, guests have similarly, without supporting facts, suggested people

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Speaker 10: from Isis and the Taliban might be among those migrants.

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Speaker 10: Even so, the network's chief news anchor, Shepherd Smith, tried

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Speaker 10: to put on the brakes yesterday.

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Speaker 15: Tomorrow is one week before the midterm election, which is

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Speaker 15: what all of this is about. There is no invasion,

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Speaker 15: No one's coming to get you. There's nothing at all

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Speaker 15: to worry about this month.

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Speaker 10: Fox hosts and guests have repeatedly questions whether the migrants

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Speaker 10: might bring in infectious diseases again without evidence. Laura Ingram,

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Speaker 10: we don't know.

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Speaker 8: What people have coming in here. We have diseases in

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Speaker 8: this country we haven't had for decades.

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Speaker 1: I'll leave you to process the incredible arrogy of the

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Speaker 1: network that killed the decent percentage of its viewers by

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Speaker 1: denying that COVID was serious or a disease, or the

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Speaker 1: vaccines and masks are useful panicking about infectious diseases. Just

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Speaker 1: two years before the pandemic began, the Tree of Life

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Speaker 1: shooter who we won't name here, who is currently facing

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Speaker 1: a death penunty trial for murdering eleven people in a

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh synagogue, were obsessed with the caravan. The victims of

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Speaker 1: the largest anti Semitic mass murder in US history included

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Speaker 1: a beloved community doctor, a great grandmother, and a couple

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Speaker 1: who'd gotten married at the same synagogue more than sixty

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Speaker 1: years earlier. The shooter's last post on hate speech social

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Speaker 1: media site gap, posted just minutes before the synagogue massacre,

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Speaker 1: spells it out with a reference to the Hebrew immigrant

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Speaker 1: aid Society, the Jewish nonprofit that resettles refugees in the

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Speaker 1: United States. Hias liked to bring invadives to kill our people.

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Speaker 1: I can't sit by on watch my people get slaughtered.

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Speaker 1: Screw your optics, I'm going in. The shooter was obsessed

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Speaker 1: with the idea that a caravan of migrants with not

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Speaker 1: a group of people trying to save their own lives,

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Speaker 1: but a coordinated and somehow Jewish led invasion an attempts

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Speaker 1: to demographically restructure the United States. If you're unding where

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Speaker 1: he got that idea from, he is America's favorite job

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Speaker 1: seek at Tucker Carlson on the caravan.

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Speaker 14: Over the past month, a caravan of Central American migrants

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Speaker 14: has gradually made its way up from Honduras through Mexico

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Speaker 14: all the way to Tijuana opposite San Diego. At one point,

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Speaker 14: Mexican authorities claimed they broke up the group, and American media,

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Speaker 14: of course dutifully reported that they did, But they didn't.

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Speaker 14: That was just a pr gesture and a temporary one.

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Speaker 14: In fact, during parts of the trip, Mexican police escorted

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Speaker 14: the migrants northward.

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Speaker 12: In other words, the.

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Speaker 14: Mexican government a bet did illegal immigration into this country

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Speaker 14: as it has done for many years. Well tonight the

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Speaker 14: caravan is on our southern border. Rather than wait for

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Speaker 14: the crossing station as Hena Sidro to open, many of

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Speaker 14: them just jumped the fence. Some waved Honduran flags when

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Speaker 14: they got to the top, And that tells you everything.

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Speaker 14: When you arrive in a country to contribute to it

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Speaker 14: and to assimilate into its culture, you don't wave the

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Speaker 14: flag of a foreign nation. That's what you do in

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Speaker 14: triumph when you invade country.

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Speaker 1: On my way home from Mansnado in twenty eighteen, I

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Speaker 1: saw that quote invading Horde in the Benito Quadi Sports

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Speaker 1: Complex and probably turned around and went back. My instinct

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Speaker 1: as a journalist is to cover things like this, but

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Speaker 1: my instinct is the person is to help first. On

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Speaker 1: the first day, I was there with two friends I

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Speaker 1: know from the weird world of pro cycling. Things were

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Speaker 1: pretty bad. We'd obtained a backpack foot of stroop waffles

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Speaker 1: that a friend who makes stroop waffles have given us.

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Speaker 1: Once we gave those out, I talked to a few

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Speaker 1: people about what they needed. We coordinated with mutual A

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Speaker 1: groups in Tijuana and offered support or hoever wee could

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Speaker 1: in the next few weeks, my friends and I spent

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Speaker 1: tens of thousands of dollars at a Tijuana costco, received

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Speaker 1: thousands of dollars in donations from people we hadn't seen

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Speaker 1: in years, and in one memorable instance, rigged up and

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Speaker 1: projected as someone had tactically obtained from an office to

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Speaker 1: a DVD player which we'd installed in the roof of

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Speaker 1: a dilapidated nightclub for little children and their mothers so

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Speaker 1: they could watch Beverly Hills, Chihuahua and forget about the

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Speaker 1: fact that the country they were traveling to was portraying

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Speaker 1: these little infants as invaders. I have a lot of

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Speaker 1: very complicated memories of those few weeks. Little girls braiding

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Speaker 1: my hair, little boys and girls trying to comprehend exactly

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Speaker 1: how I could be this bad at football, and people

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Speaker 1: from San Diego churches, tijuan anarchist kitchens, and mutual a

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Speaker 1: groups around the region coming together to look after a

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Speaker 1: group of people who'd been so heavily demonized by folks

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Speaker 1: who had never met them or even been here. His

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Speaker 1: Trump defending calling the caravan an invasion and simultaneously explaining

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Speaker 1: why migrants low wage labor is desirable for people like him.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: As President, I challenge you on one of the statements

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Speaker 2: that you made in the tail end of the campaign

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Speaker 2: in the mid terms that here we go that, well,

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Speaker 2: if you don't mind, miss president coming that this caravan

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Speaker 2: was an invasion, as you know consider it to be.

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Speaker 2: As you know, miss President, the caravan was not an invasion.

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Speaker 2: It's a it's a a group of migrants moving up

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Speaker 2: from Central America towards the.

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Speaker 10: Border with the US.

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Speaker 9: Thank you for dan.

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Speaker 2: Why why did you why did you characterize it as such?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 9: As I consider an invasion. You and I have a

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Speaker 9: difference of.

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Speaker 2: A BUTI do you think that you demonized immigrants? Not

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Speaker 2: election to try.

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Speaker 9: I want them. I want them to come into the country,

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Speaker 9: but they have to come in legally. You know, they

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Speaker 9: have to come in Jim through a process. I wanted

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Speaker 9: to be a process and I want people to come in.

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Speaker 9: And we need the people.

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Speaker 10: Your campaign, your campaign.

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Speaker 9: You know why we need the people, does you? Because

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Speaker 9: we have hundreds of companies moving in we need the people.

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Speaker 1: Trump, as you heard in the clip, used a migrant

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Speaker 1: caravan and to a prop for its racism, bigoted midterm campaign.

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Speaker 1: It didn't work, and he lost control of the house,

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Speaker 1: but he did succeed in forcing these people to spend

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Speaker 1: months in the cold, first in a sports stadium and

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Speaker 1: then the old nightclub. Even as a migrant gradually reduced

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Speaker 1: in number, with many finding work and a new life

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Speaker 1: in Mexico, some finding their way north. The long legacy

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Speaker 1: of that caravan was only just starting. In the months

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Speaker 1: of followed Journalists who'd covered the caravan, as well as

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Speaker 1: those who offered assistant to caravan members, so they felt

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Speaker 1: they'd become targets of intense inspections of scrutiny by border officials.

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Speaker 1: I got pulled into secondarily once during this time, and

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Speaker 1: that was entering Mexico. The worst I got was a

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Speaker 1: chance to inspect my nineteen eighty pickup truck so oil pen.

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Speaker 1: But for others things weren't so easy. Homeland Security Investigation

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Speaker 1: special agent turned whistleblower Wesley Peteranac helped NBC to document

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Speaker 1: that under the umbrella of what was called Operation Secure Line,

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Speaker 1: the Department of Homeland Security created a database of activists, journalists,

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Speaker 1: and social media influences tied to the migrant caravan when

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Speaker 1: they crossed the border. Individuals in that database, were often

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Speaker 1: subjected to hours long screenings and in some cases had

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Speaker 1: flagspaced on their passports. A PowerPoint slideshow which Peternac leaked

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Speaker 1: to NBC seven list some of the people, some of

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Speaker 1: them have been guests on this show. They include ten

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Speaker 1: journalists so on no whom are US citizens, a US attorney,

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Speaker 1: forty eight people from the US and other countries who

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Speaker 1: are labeled as organizers, instigators, or having unknown rules. The

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Speaker 1: target lists also includes organizers from groups like Border Angels

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Speaker 1: and Pueblos and Froontella's I asked journalist brook Bink Cowsey

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Speaker 1: to describe her experience of increased border scrutiny in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 16: If you don't have a pre approved card, you have

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Speaker 16: to like go through wait and line, wait in this

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Speaker 16: long ass line, and then you know, you go and

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Speaker 16: get vetted by CDP. They ask you some questions or

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Speaker 16: they just wave you through, depending on what kind of

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Speaker 16: day they're having or whatever. So in my case, I

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Speaker 16: started getting pulled into secondary inspection more and more so

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Speaker 16: they would wave my car over and then take me

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Speaker 16: into this secondary place where it's sort of like this

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Speaker 16: back it's like a quonset pet sort of and in it,

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Speaker 16: like all these cars drive in and out, and they'll

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Speaker 16: they'll go through your things, they'll get in your face,

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Speaker 16: you know, they'll do all kinds of stuff. And I

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Speaker 16: don't there have to be cameras in there somewhere, but

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Speaker 16: I've never seen any. So I just kept getting pulled

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Speaker 16: into secondary more and more as though I was this

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Speaker 16: suspicious person, as though I was suspected of something, and

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Speaker 16: every time I asked, they'd be like, I don't know,

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Speaker 16: it's just random, ma'am, and ma'am, it's just random. So

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Speaker 16: actually this started about twenty fourteen for me, but it

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Speaker 16: started to escalate in twenty eighteen. Twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen

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Speaker 16: started to escalating. I was like a fucking Trump administration,

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Speaker 16: of course going to escalate.

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Speaker 1: Right under Trump, she said, things got worse.

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Speaker 16: From twenty seventeen through twenty eighteen. It kind of worked

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Speaker 16: where you push back and I'd be like, you need

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Speaker 16: to let me fucking go. You know, I'm century, I'm

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Speaker 16: already pre checked. If you think that there's something wrong

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Speaker 16: that I'm doing, and take my fucking century away, and

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Speaker 16: I want to talk to your manager type stuff, right,

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Speaker 16: So I was doing that That worked until twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 16: and then it started to get really normally.

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Speaker 1: Eventually things came to a head. The day before the

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Speaker 1: migrants of the caravan were tear gassed. And I've seen

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Speaker 1: most people remember from twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 16: So but on that night, as I was coming back,

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Speaker 16: I drove through and I did the sentry thing, you know,

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Speaker 16: the usual stuff, and got pulled into secondary. And this

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Speaker 16: time it was really like gnarly. The time before that

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Speaker 16: had also been really gnarlly, like nobody hurt me, nobody

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Speaker 16: did anything. But they got really close to my face,

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Speaker 16: like brighten my face, you know, and started screaming at me,

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Speaker 16: like screaming over me. And I kept going, I'd like

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Speaker 16: to speak to your manager, you know, sir, like please

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Speaker 16: please get out of my face, sir. And it was

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Speaker 16: it was gross and they were going through my shit

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Speaker 16: and that was gross. Like they didn't find anything, but

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Speaker 16: it was just an invasive, hostile, disgusting thing.

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Speaker 10: And that was when so I.

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Speaker 16: Said, can I speak to your manager? Which is a

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Speaker 16: magic phrase when you're a middle aged white woman. So

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Speaker 16: I say this, and they bring over some guy and

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Speaker 16: he goes, ma'am, can I help you? I'm like yeah,

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Speaker 16: what the fuck. You know, why are you treating me

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Speaker 16: this way? Why did any of this happen? And he goes, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 16: I'm sorry. Your name's on a list somewhere. You've been

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Speaker 16: flat And I'm like, so every time I've crossed, I've

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Speaker 16: been flagged. He's like, yeah, and yeah, you've been. There's

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Speaker 16: a flag on your passport or against your name and

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Speaker 16: that's why. And I said, well, why is there a

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Speaker 16: flag against my name? And he goes, I don't know,

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Speaker 16: You're going to have to do a Freedom of Information

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Speaker 16: Act request or something. I don't even know if he

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Speaker 16: knew I.

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Speaker 1: Was a journalist Sadly Brook last crossing twenty eighteen, and

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Speaker 1: since I photographed those Cumi folks in ceremony near Campo,

823
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Speaker 1: the border wall has only got longer. Every mile it

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Speaker 1: stretches out means another milet of desert people have to walk,

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Speaker 1: and that means that more people won't walk out of

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Speaker 1: that desert. Those people who lost their lives and an

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Speaker 1: attempt to save them. A mark with little red dots

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Speaker 1: on the various maps that attempt to put the humanitarian

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Speaker 1: crisis into a visual form. Those dots begin in South

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Speaker 1: America's people die traveling north, but they're sparse and isolated.

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Speaker 1: Where that changes is the places I've been driving all week,

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Speaker 1: Eastern California, southern Arizona. Places I know from years of hiking, climbing,

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Speaker 1: and cycling. Places when one mistake can be fatal. I

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Speaker 1: know for my friends who spend time resupplying water caches

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Speaker 1: and searching for missing people. The You don't have to

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Speaker 1: make any mistakes to die in the desert, especially if

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Speaker 1: you're young or old, or sick or afraid to ask

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Speaker 1: for help. These are the places we force people to

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Speaker 1: travel through on foot to come here and create a

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Speaker 1: better future for themselves. Dehydration, exposure and drowning or rank

841
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: highly as caused a death along the border. Last year

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00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: saw a record for border death, and with Biden attempting

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Speaker 1: to take a hard line going into twenty twenty four,

844
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Speaker 1: and climate change and instability continuing to drive migrants north

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Speaker 1: to the place that causes so much of that climate

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Speaker 1: change and instability, there's no reason to believe things will

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Speaker 1: get better. I want to point to one tragic loss,

848
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Speaker 1: one of thousands, that happened not far from where I live.

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Speaker 1: In February of twenty twenty, Juana Margarita and Paula Santosarthe

850
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Speaker 1: were traveling by foot from Wahaka to their future in

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Speaker 1: the United States along a trail sometimes known as the

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Speaker 1: Shrine Trail. Their family told media back home that they

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Speaker 1: were searching for us. When you are a Medicano the

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Speaker 1: American dream. Along their route is a small religious shrine

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Speaker 1: which marks the last point from which you can see

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Speaker 1: in Mexico. It's well inside the US along a dry

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Speaker 1: creek bed in the Laguna Mountains. It can be hot

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Speaker 1: in the summer and cold in the winter. Last November

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Speaker 1: I camped out there, and even with thousands of dollars

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Speaker 1: in gear, I was dangerously close to cold injury. I've

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Speaker 1: also rescued hikers with dehydration symptoms near here. The desert

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Speaker 1: and the weather might be part of the story, but

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Speaker 1: the desert doesn't kill people on its own. It's the

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Speaker 1: border that forces people deep into the desert that kills them.

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Speaker 1: The desert is just a tool for a system that

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Speaker 1: uses death of the torrent. When the girls crossed the

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Speaker 1: border near Campo on the ninth of February, it was raining.

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Speaker 1: As it climbed in the Laguna Mountains, it started to snow,

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Speaker 1: They huddled under a bolder for warmth, and the two

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Speaker 1: men smuggling them across struck out to get SAR reception

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Speaker 1: and call nine to one one. By the time boor

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Speaker 1: Star Border Patrol Search Trauma and Rescue team arrived, two

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Speaker 1: of the girls had died as they tried to save Juana.

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Speaker 1: Their request for air support was declined, and she died

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Speaker 1: with one of the agent's jack kits wrapped around her

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Speaker 1: and another agent's beanie on her head. For some reason,

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Speaker 1: the girl's remains were not recovered right away, and they

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Speaker 1: were not rewarmed, and so they last their last chance

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Speaker 1: at the American dream and not life. Today, their final

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Speaker 1: resting place is marked by three crosses and a cash

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Speaker 1: of supplies placed there by volunteers. At the time I'm

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Speaker 1: recording this, we don't know where all the folks we

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Speaker 1: met at the border are now. Then we might never know.

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Speaker 1: Not being able to follow stories is the sad part

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Speaker 1: of this reporting. Sometimes knows people will have my phone number,

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Speaker 1: but they might not. Only more have their phones or

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Speaker 1: this scrap of paper are wroteed on. Often these things

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Speaker 1: can be taken for them in custody. What we do

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Speaker 1: know is that on May eighteenth, exactly one week after

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Speaker 1: Title forty two ended, Immigration and Customer to Enforcement also

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Speaker 1: known as ICE, tweeted a video of Customs Enforcement and

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Speaker 1: Removal Operations agents walking down the corridor of a flight

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Speaker 1: full of mass people. The caption read ICE conducted multiple

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Speaker 1: removal flights including Ecuador, Guatemala, and Honduras as part of

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Speaker 1: dozens flights conducted each week. On the wall of my

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Speaker 1: office as I write this, there are several propaganda posters

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Speaker 1: from the Spanish Second Republic. One is as simple as

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Speaker 1: it is heartbreaking. The poster depicts a squadron of fascist

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Speaker 1: bombers and the dead body of a child. The slogan

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Speaker 1: underneath reads, if you tolerate this, then your children will

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Speaker 1: be next. The poster was, of course correct. It was

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Speaker 1: the inspiration for songs for the Clash and the Manstree Preachers,

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00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: which are what, in turn made me want to learn

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Speaker 1: about the Spanish Civil War. The slogan, coined in nineteen

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Speaker 1: thirty seven, feels as relevant today as it does then.

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Speaker 1: It was one that folks on the border might as

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00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: well have been screaming by twenty eighteen, but one that

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Speaker 1: went ignored, just as it did in nineteen thirty seven.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, folks began to realize what it meant

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00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: when border patrol drones circled the Skuise around Minneapolis and

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00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: cell phone signal interceptors tracked citizens all over the US

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Speaker 1: when they came together to demand that the police stop

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Speaker 1: murdering people. It became more real in twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: when under DeSantis, Florida began the process of legalizing state

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Speaker 1: kidnapping of trans and gender nonperforming kids from their loving families.

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Speaker 1: But that all began when the state ripped Indigenous children

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Speaker 1: for their families in nineteenth and twentieth centuries who tried

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Speaker 1: to destroy their culture by punishing them for wearing their clothes,

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Speaker 1: speaking their languages, or using their names. Wasn't a big

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Speaker 1: leap from there to Trump's family separation policy, which detained

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Speaker 1: kids on their own away from their families as a

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Speaker 1: means of punishing a deterring migrants, and it's reached its

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Speaker 1: obvious endpoint in Florida, because despite all the people chanting

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Speaker 1: about kids in courages in twenty twenty, it's almost universal

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Speaker 1: bipartisan agreement on treating people of our southern border like

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Speaker 1: humans without rights and because for two decades we've allowed

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Speaker 1: the border surveillance industrial complex to grow to an unprecedented

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Speaker 1: and uncontrollable scale. But what you us all changing things

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Speaker 1: now will be very difficult. DHS aren't numbers many nations armies,

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Speaker 1: and it's considerably better equipped. But unless people show up

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Speaker 1: and take action, things are going to get considerably worse,

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Speaker 1: regardless of who you vote for or what they say

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Speaker 1: in order to get you to vote for them. As

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Speaker 1: Katie said, little things can make a difference, and if

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Speaker 1: you listen this far, I hope you'll take the time

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Speaker 1: to try and do those little things. Before we go,

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Speaker 1: I want to update you on what's happened in the

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Speaker 1: week we've been publishing this. Although there are no longer

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Speaker 1: people held out in the open in ho Gomber and

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Speaker 1: sant Asedra, there are still many people trying to present

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Speaker 1: themselves at the sant Asedra border to claim asylum. Today

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Speaker 1: I was told they about one hundred of them. They're

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Speaker 1: waiting there often for days. Most of them are getting

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Speaker 1: turned away. They're all frustrated with CVP one which continues

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Speaker 1: to be buggy, offer no appointments and struggle to photograph

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Speaker 1: black faces. I also wanted to mention some of the

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Speaker 1: organizations you can find and donate to if you'd like

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Speaker 1: to support the refor They are the Asian Solidarity Collective,

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Speaker 1: Alo Trollaro, the American Friends Service Committee, Border Kindness, Borderlands

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Speaker 1: Relief Collective, the Haitian Bridge Alliance, the Partnership for the

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Speaker 1: Advancement of New Americans, and PREVENKASA pr E V E

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Speaker 1: n C A s A. I'd also like to thank

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Speaker 1: Joe Oriana his Twitter is at Joe or Photo for

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Speaker 1: his reporting which very much contributed to this series.

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