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Speaker 1: Well, good evening, everyone, Welcome to Stinchfield. It looks like

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Speaker 1: Washington word games are back. We didn't vote for word games,

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Speaker 1: but that's what we're getting, surprisingly from this administration, who

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you right now, I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: this idea of amnesty and giving a pass, any kind

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Speaker 1: And I would tell this to the President himself if

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Speaker 1: I was in the Oval office, I would say, respectfully,

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Speaker 1: mister President Maga does not want any form of amnesty,

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Speaker 1: not a work program, not amnesty. To me, they're the same.

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Speaker 1: This is the president today doing.

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Speaker 2: As we're getting rid of criminalists, but we are doing

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Speaker 1: Do you want to explain that. Please, No amnesty.

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Speaker 3: Mass deportation continues, but in a strategic way. And then

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Speaker 3: ensuring that our farmers have the labor that they need.

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Speaker 3: Secretary Chavis Drimer has been a leader on this. Obviously

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Speaker 3: this comes out of the Labor Department, but moving toward automation,

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Speaker 3: ensuring that our farmers have that workforce, and moving toward

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Speaker 1: So all of the above give.

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Speaker 2: The farmers the people they need.

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Speaker 1: But we're not talking amnesty, mister president. What you're doing

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Speaker 1: is creating a special class of people. So farmers and

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Speaker 1: get a pass. And we were told it might be

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Speaker 1: a little painful, but we're going to get our country back.

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Speaker 1: So if you want to do it strategically, I'll give

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Speaker 1: you a little side baseball. No one would admit this publicly,

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Speaker 1: but I would have recommended to the president, mister President,

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Speaker 1: just go don't enforce the farmer stuff right now, focus

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Speaker 1: on the real bad guys and leave the farmers alone.

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Speaker 1: But don't announce it. Don't make a worker program that

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Speaker 1: does amount to amnesty. Conservatives, as you can imagine, are outrage.

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Speaker 1: The fears about all this started when the President had

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Speaker 4: Working on legislation right now where farmers look, they know better.

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Speaker 1: They work with him for years.

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Speaker 4: He had cases that were not here, but just even

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Speaker 4: over the years where people have worked for a farm

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Speaker 5: We got to work with the.

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Speaker 4: Farmers and people that have hotels and leisure your properties

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Speaker 4: to We're gonna work with them, and we're gonna work

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Speaker 4: We're gonna make you responsible. And I think that that's

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Speaker 1: Hospitality worker programs, But what about manufactory companies, metal fabricators.

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Speaker 1: You can't create special classes if you're here illegally. You

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Speaker 1: gotta get right. You don't get to sneak in and

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Speaker 1: then get a work permit. That means you were given

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Speaker 1: amnesty for the crime you committed by speaking, sneaking into

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Speaker 1: this country. I am sorry, but there is no other

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm told that only about fifteen percent of the agriculture

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Speaker 1: workforce is made up of illegal aliens. We could survive that. Okay.

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Speaker 1: What I want to see more of is this MacArthur Park. Okay,

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Speaker 1: MacArthur Park. Ice agents and federal agents and the National

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Speaker 1: Guard went into MacArthur Park to show a sign of force. Now.

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Speaker 1: MacArthur Park, for those of you who don't know, has

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Speaker 1: It's a park in la and It may look good

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Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties. So Trump showing a sign of force.

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Speaker 1: I love this side of the illegal immigration plan, outragees

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Speaker 1: Mayor Karen Bass of Los Angeles.

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Speaker 7: Yes, my comments as they need to leave, and they

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Speaker 8: Because unaccepted.

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Speaker 1: So she's upset. She says, Oh, there's summer campers. There's

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Speaker 1: He works for the Fox eleven News, they're a local

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Speaker 1: about old MacArthur Park is such a beautiful place. They've

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Speaker 7: And you know what, we have a police department. We

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Speaker 1: You're doing a good job there.

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Speaker 7: Why, I absolutely think they are, and we've been working

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Speaker 7: together along with the council person. These problems can't be

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Speaker 7: We've had a dramatic drop in violent crime.

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Speaker 1: How dare you say you have a police department that

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Speaker 1: So that's Karen Bass for you. She was supposed to

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Speaker 9: I want folks to know we have your back and

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Speaker 9: we'll continue to come back and do what we can

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Speaker 9: to protect our diverse communities, to protect the spirit that

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Speaker 9: defines the best of this city and our state, and

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Speaker 9: to push back against this cruelty, to push back against

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Speaker 1: Do you know what's cruel that little kids can't use

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Speaker 1: guarantee you any kid that sees the force that came

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Speaker 1: in under the United States military and federally as a

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Speaker 1: MS thirteen gang members room in that park. I promise

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Speaker 1: you that joining me now is former Deputy Border Patrol

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Speaker 1: JJ Carroll is with us. JJ, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 10: Thank you very much for having me. What an incredible

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Speaker 10: DEI hire that lady is. Can you imagine a park

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Speaker 10: needs to be cleared out and she can't do it

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Speaker 10: takes years and Donald Trump closes the border in day one.

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Speaker 5: It just shows you they don't care.

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Speaker 1: Well the people of Los Angeles. I've decided they have

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Speaker 1: But JJ I want to ask you, let's take this

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Speaker 1: step by step. I first started talking about what I'm

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Speaker 1: calling Washington word games amnesty or a work program. To me,

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Speaker 1: you're getting a free pass for breaking into America. Your thoughts.

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Speaker 10: I think this is a horrible decision or even idea

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Speaker 10: that Donald Trump is being fed by his senior leaders.

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Speaker 10: This will destroy and rip MAGA apart. We did not

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Speaker 10: if they give amnesty to these illegal aliens, these millions

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Speaker 10: They will not be able to hire them under the table,

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Speaker 10: get away from paying Social Security tax, get away from

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Speaker 10: a legal resident. So they don't want amnesty. They want

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Speaker 10: Donald Trump just to turn a blind eye and let

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Speaker 10: this go. But it's destroying our economy and the idea grant,

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Speaker 10: the true idea that people are trying to sell me

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Speaker 5: I don't buy that. I just do not.

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Speaker 10: And I believe Trump is making a horrible decision if

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Speaker 1: So the question then becomes to me is who is

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Speaker 1: who's basically the architect of President Trump's immigration plan, is

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Speaker 1: not going to be for this. I heard Tom Holman

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Speaker 1: the borders are a man, you know, say that if

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Speaker 1: you're here illegally, you are subject to deportation. That goes

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Speaker 1: for everybody, farm worker or hospitality worker. So it's not them.

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Speaker 1: My only question is who could it be? You know,

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Speaker 1: Avanka has a very big heart, she's a very compassionate

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Speaker 1: is in President Trump's ear because this doesn't seem to

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Speaker 10: No, there is no ways, Tom Holman or Rodney Scott,

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Speaker 10: who's the commissioners of CBP. And I know that, and

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Speaker 10: I'm like you there's no way. Stephen Miller is sitting

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Speaker 10: this is a great idea.

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Speaker 5: There's no way that he is.

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Speaker 10: This man was fighting the illegal immigration battle as a

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Speaker 10: So who is is it? The Secretary of Agriculture, Brooke Rollins.

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Speaker 10: They're saying that it's her. Donald Trump said, this is

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Speaker 10: who brought it to me. Well, we didn't vote for her.

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Speaker 10: We voted for you, mister Trump. We voted for you

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Speaker 10: to deport these millions of people out of our country. Look,

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Speaker 10: the twenty thirty census is coming.

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Speaker 5: People.

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Speaker 10: If we continue to allow illegal aliens to live and

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Speaker 10: the electoral College votes will change to the blue and

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Speaker 10: security issue, Donald Trump. We want them all gone. And

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Speaker 10: here's the thing you talked about this. We had the

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Speaker 5: If you need more, then go get more.

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Speaker 10: But don't sit here and sell me this lie that

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Speaker 10: And one more thing, Grant, which really makes me frustrated

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Speaker 10: is Donald Trump says, hey, you know what, the far

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Speaker 10: I'm like, well, hold on a second, sir. The far

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Speaker 10: right is a derogatory term that placed on patriots that

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Speaker 10: and I don't like it. I don't like that Donald

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Speaker 10: Trump is promising something now he's changing it.

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me just give you a little bit of

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Speaker 1: solitude to roll of this. President Trump embraces MAGA, whether

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Speaker 1: the Constitution. He shoots from the hip of time. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: some pivoting here. He's done it before, and I think

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Speaker 1: JJ Carroll. But I appreciate your strong voice on this.

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Speaker 1: There's going to be a lot of people that are

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Speaker 10: This lays at the feet of the Democrat Party, all

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Speaker 1: They really do seem to egg it on. JJ Carroll,

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Speaker 1: also for writing the book Trees and it's great, Thank you, buddy,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. All right, absolutely all right, I want to

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Speaker 1: One thing MAGA wants is the Epstein files. We want

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Speaker 2: Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?

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Speaker 8: This guy's been talked about for years?

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Speaker 2: You're asking we have Texas, we have this, we have

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Speaker 8: Do you want to waste the time?

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Speaker 1: And do you feel like answer?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on

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Speaker 1: It just seems like a desecration. But all right, let

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Speaker 1: me give you my thoughts on what's happening here. And

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Speaker 1: and we've never heard anything. Why Because whatever is in

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Speaker 1: choosing to keep this quiet. Why else would my buddy

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Speaker 5: Thanks Gret, Mike.

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Speaker 1: What in the world is going on?

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Speaker 13: Well, it's unclear at this point. The leaks to Axios

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Speaker 13: but it was Donald Trump himself who raised the Epstein

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Speaker 13: everyone at current FBI and DOJ who crusaded on this.

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Speaker 13: The main issue is that they have not showed their work.

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Speaker 13: We have not had a document dump like Tulci Gabbert

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Speaker 13: this is the guy. But what we learned was a

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Speaker 13: tremendous amount through those declassifications about the internal thought process

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Speaker 13: is Epstein is a part of a much bigger network

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Speaker 13: had tabs on Jeffrey Epstein since at least nineteen eighty three.

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Speaker 13: It would be almost impossible for the CIA to not

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Speaker 13: have been keeping tabs on Jeffrey Epstein because Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 13: Jeffrey Epstein was the guy who made the money untrackable.

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Speaker 13: He was a professional money launder in his first phase

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Speaker 1: Mike, do you think that Epstein's wealth came mostly from

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Speaker 1: the CIA and then blackmailing the people that he had information?

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Speaker 13: Mike, Yes, and Bill Barr started his career at the CIA,

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Speaker 13: spent his first seven years in the CIA. Told his

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Speaker 13: And also I would like to see the public transcripts

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Speaker 13: of the DOJ's internal investigation of alex Acosta's statement. After

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Speaker 13: he exercised poor judgment, but the intelligence issue was relegated

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Speaker 1: That's all we got on it.

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Speaker 13: I want to know every question the Justice Department asked

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Speaker 13: If you're serious about closing the book on this, show

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Speaker 1: So Mike, let me ask you this question. As we

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Speaker 1: nothing there. The other is that they've they've got incriminating

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Speaker 1: Why do they not want us to see this file?

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Speaker 13: Well, Unfortunately, they can't just come out and close the

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Speaker 13: Admit that Jeffrey Epstein was part of an intelligence network

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Speaker 13: Now the issue is is what you're dealing with here

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Speaker 1: I believe the files have all been destroyed. I don't

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Speaker 13: I think Trump listens to the sound of the ocean

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Speaker 1: that is the Middle East connection right here with everything

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Speaker 13: Disclose the November twenty twenty public the private transcript of

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Speaker 1: I got notes written down right there too. I will

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Speaker 1: rolls in Orange County, California, and they aren't doing anything

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Speaker 1: about it. The full story next, Welcome back everyone. Election

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Speaker 1: intake maybe one of the most important topics we talk about.

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Speaker 1: We don't give up on that story. Okay. In Orange County, California,

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Speaker 1: seventeen people self reported themselves as not US citizens so

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Speaker 1: they would be removed from the voter rules. The federal

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Speaker 1: government wants to know who those seventeen people are. Orange

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Speaker 1: County refuses to give up that information. Here's Harmeet Dillon.

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Speaker 1: She is with the Civil Rights Division of the Attorney

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Speaker 1: General's Office talking about this problem.

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Speaker 11: Los Angeles County right next door in twenty seventeen for

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Speaker 11: bloaded voter roles that included over one million voters on

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Speaker 11: the rolls who were dead, duplicate had moved or otherwise.

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Speaker 11: We're not entitled to re roled on the voter roles

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Speaker 11: they lost and they had to agree in a settlement

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Speaker 11: to purge their voter roles. They may be out of

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Speaker 11: compliance to that. That's not my lawsuit. But what I'm

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Speaker 11: telling you is there's no free pass for counties to

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Speaker 11: do whatever they want and craft their own homegrown rules.

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Speaker 11: That is not the law in the United States, and

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Speaker 11: that is why we have filed this lawsuit.

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Speaker 1: So she's suing Orange County to get this information. Now,

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Speaker 1: seventeen people self reported, how many people didn't self report?

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Speaker 1: The numbers could be insane. I want to bring in now.

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Speaker 1: Orange County Board of Supervisors Supervisor Don Wagner is with

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Speaker 1: us from Orange County. Supervisor Wagner's great having you on

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Speaker 1: the program.

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Speaker 5: Good to be here, Grant.

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Speaker 12: Nice to see you a little later in the day

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Speaker 12: than we normally talk.

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Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate when you come on my radio show

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Speaker 1: out in Los Angeles, and I'll tell you you and

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Speaker 1: I've been talking about this a lot. You want the information,

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Speaker 1: you want them to give it to the federal government.

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Speaker 1: What are you being told by your county?

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Speaker 12: I am being told by our county council that state

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Speaker 12: law prohibits us from providing this information without a bunch

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Speaker 12: of redactions. That to my mind, and it looks like

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Speaker 12: to the Department of Justice's mind, would make the information unusable.

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Speaker 12: Or we are allowed to provide it but only subject

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Speaker 12: to a protective order, which again basically makes it unused.

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Speaker 12: I am arguing with county council that state law does

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Speaker 12: not trump what the federal government is entitled to and

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Speaker 12: if you have nothing to hide, we should turn the

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Speaker 12: information over. If there are irregularities there, good let us know.

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Speaker 12: Because the only interest to the County of Orange has

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Speaker 12: in the voter rules is making sure that everybody who

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Speaker 12: is entitled to vote is allowed to and no one

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Speaker 12: who is not entitled to vote is on those roles.

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Speaker 8: And that has fallen on deaf ears so far.

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Speaker 1: So the law basically says you have to keep these

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Speaker 1: records for two years and you have to make them

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Speaker 1: available to inspection. It's pretty clear Orange County isn't doing it.

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Speaker 1: My bigger concern though, is that these were self reported people.

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Speaker 1: Not many people are self reporting themselves as non citizens

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Speaker 1: who shouldn't be voting. How many people are on this list?

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Speaker 1: When you go as an illegal alien, you can go

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Speaker 1: to the driver's license bureau. You could get a driver's license.

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Speaker 1: They ask you, do you want to register to votevote right.

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Speaker 12: One of the problems in California is we do make

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Speaker 12: it so easy to register to vote. For example, at

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Speaker 12: the DMV, you just check a box and the DMV

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Speaker 12: doesn't do any checking on the person who maybe checks

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Speaker 12: that box. If you've been to a DMV, you know

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Speaker 12: one thing, you want to get out of there as

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Speaker 12: soon as possible, and it would be no surprise to

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Speaker 12: anyone that's just check whatever box. These folks maybe didn't

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Speaker 12: intend to register, maybe didn't intend to vote. Let's get

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Speaker 12: this information out, Let's see how big a problem this is,

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Speaker 12: and let's see if maybe we can convince the people

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Speaker 12: in Sacramento to change the law so that it's not

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Speaker 12: so easy for.

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Speaker 8: Folks without a right to vote to register to vote.

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Speaker 1: Well, you and I both know Sacramento is not going

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Speaker 1: to change this law because I believe they actually want

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Speaker 1: the illegals voting to put the favor in their court.

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Speaker 1: Now you tip me off to what I think is

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Speaker 1: a blockbuster story. When you get a jury summons and

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Speaker 1: you want to tell the clerk that you can't be

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Speaker 1: a juror you can check a box that says I'm

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Speaker 1: a non citizen. Now doesn't mean you're illegal. It means

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Speaker 1: you may have a visa. But we don't have anybody

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Speaker 1: but American citizens serving on juries. So if you check

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Speaker 1: non citizen, that list could be cross reference to the

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Speaker 1: voter rolls. And Orange County's not doing it. You tell

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Speaker 1: me no county in California is doing that.

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Speaker 12: I'm unaware of any county in California that does it.

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Speaker 12: When I first learned that that was the case, I

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Speaker 12: went to the Registrar of Voters and asked him to

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Speaker 12: join with me in bringing legislation that would change that,

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Speaker 12: and he agreed to his credit to are a registrar's credit,

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Speaker 12: he agreed to help me with that, I went to

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Speaker 12: my board and I said, look, this is self reported information,

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Speaker 12: and the information comes in part from voter rules. If

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Speaker 12: those voter roles are inaccurate, let's clean them. I went

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Speaker 12: to the jury commissioner and I said, can you give

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Speaker 12: us that information? And he said to me, don without

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Speaker 12: a court order or without a change in the law,

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Speaker 12: I am not going to give you that information. And

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Speaker 12: so it remains kind of in a black box in

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Speaker 12: the court system. It is never shared with the registrars

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Speaker 12: and my board, and indeed state law prohibits them from

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Speaker 12: sharing it.

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Speaker 5: We ought to change that.

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Speaker 1: All right, Orange County around the country is known somewhat

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Speaker 1: of a conservative area of California. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it's as conservative as it once was. Is your board

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Speaker 1: of Supervisors in Orange County on board with the idea

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Speaker 1: of cross referencing all of these different databases to clean

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Speaker 1: up the voter rules. No.

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Speaker 12: My board is a three to two Democrat majority board,

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Speaker 12: and when I and a registrar proposed this particular piece

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Speaker 12: of legislation, it was shot down three to two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. My assumption is a supervisor Wagner, that this problem

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Speaker 1: you're talking about in Orange county is not just happening

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Speaker 1: in every county in California, but maybe every county and

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Speaker 1: every blue state across the country. And there may be

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Speaker 1: an awful lot of Red states where the same situation

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Speaker 1: is happening in counties as well. The information's out there.

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Speaker 1: You just got to go looking forward. Sometimes it's right

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Speaker 1: under our noses, as in this case, Supervisor Wagner. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on as always.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, sir, grant my pleasure, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely good luck with keeping up the fight in California.

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Speaker 1: We need patriots like that to keep fighting in California

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Speaker 1: All right, Communism is on the march in New York City.

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Speaker 1: We'll tell you about why this matters. We'll get an

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Speaker 1: inside look from New York itself. I like to get

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Speaker 1: the clown's name wrong. This Mam Donnie character out in

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Speaker 1: New York. I like to call him Zofran Mamdani. Is

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Speaker 1: that like a nasal spray. I don't know. He's not

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Speaker 1: a very nice man. He's a socialist. He's a communist.

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Speaker 1: He's bad for America. He's one of these America hating

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Speaker 1: individuals who now stands a good chance of being the

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Speaker 1: next mayor of New York. This is him over the.

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Speaker 14: Weekend, that is the next mayor of this city. No,

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Speaker 14: I'm going to fight to get id off the travel.

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Speaker 1: Because you talk the world about him, folks. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you something. Be warned about this guy that's a

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Speaker 1: massive crowd talking about fighting for Haitians. Get him off

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Speaker 1: the travel band. Fight. Trump's all the things I do

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Speaker 1: not want to hear. And that's a big crowd cheering

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Speaker 1: wildly for this guy. Frightening because he's a self described

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Speaker 1: socialist who wants to do very bad things to New York.

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Speaker 1: I want to bring in now New York City councilman,

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Speaker 1: a good guy who wants to do good things for

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Speaker 1: New York and is my buddy. Frank Morano is here, counselman.

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Speaker 1: It's great to have you on the program.

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Speaker 8: It's great to talk to you again.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: All right, what do you make of the mom Donnie

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Speaker 1: fever that is taking over New York. It is frightening

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Speaker 1: to me to see.

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Speaker 15: First of all, the clip that you played as a

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Speaker 15: hyperbolic and as vitriolic as what he was saying there is,

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Speaker 15: and as playing to the lowest common denominator as he

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Speaker 15: was doing in that clip. That's among the least controversial

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Speaker 15: things that he's done and said. If anything, he's toned

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Speaker 15: down his act in the last couple of weeks since

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Speaker 15: winning the Democratic primary. If you look at the comments

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Speaker 15: that he was making as a primary candidate, and even

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Speaker 15: before he was a candidate, it's frightening. As a candidate,

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Speaker 15: this is when presumably he's trying to take positions that

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Speaker 15: aren't going to turn off voters. He said that he

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Speaker 15: wants to arrest Benjamin nettan Yahoo. Now I don't know

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Speaker 15: how he's going to do that, because he's also called

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Speaker 15: for defunding the police, ending incarceration, spending three hundred and

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Speaker 15: thirty seven million dollars on violence interrupters, because that's exactly

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Speaker 15: what New Yorkers want.

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Speaker 5: If you have an.

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Speaker 15: Armed gang banger who is terrorizing a nameighborhood, primarily a

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Speaker 15: minority neighborhood by and large, by the way, the people

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Speaker 15: that you want to send is not an armed, trained

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Speaker 15: police officer.

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Speaker 8: It's basically a social worker.

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Speaker 15: Instead of spending three hundred and thirty seven million dollars

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Speaker 15: for that, let's spend three hundred and thirty seven million

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Speaker 15: dollars and hire more cops.

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Speaker 8: What he is doing and what he's done, and said,

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Speaker 8: I'm not one of.

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Speaker 15: These guys that likes to say this guy is falling,

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Speaker 15: all is lost, woe is me, but the ship be sinking.

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Speaker 15: To paraphrase Sugar Ray Richardson, if Mom Donnie gets elected,

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Speaker 15: it is going to be frightening. Now we're just talking

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Speaker 15: about where he is in terms of demonizing and demagogueing

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Speaker 15: ethnic groups doing things like giving Columbus the middle finger,

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Speaker 15: doing things like refusing to sign on to a resolution

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Speaker 15: recognizing the Holocaust.

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Speaker 8: He also wants a rent freeze in New York.

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Speaker 15: Now, a lot of your viewers Grant are, I'm sure

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Speaker 15: having a tough time paying the bills.

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Speaker 8: That may sound great.

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Speaker 15: Do you think any developer is going to build new

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Speaker 15: housing in New York City if.

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Speaker 8: There's a shop that there's going to be a rent freeze.

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Speaker 15: For four years if he's elected, Well, this could have

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Speaker 15: disastrous implications for the housing market in New York City

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Speaker 15: and everybody else the job market as well.

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Speaker 1: Frank, New York City knows all about rent control. You've

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Speaker 1: got all of these rent control situations New York that's

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Speaker 1: ripe with fraud. As it is hand down from family member.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't work. This is mom Donnie talking at a

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Speaker 1: union event, and of course this is came down. I

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Speaker 1: will agree with you, Frank. Lately he's been tamer, but

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Speaker 1: still really bad.

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Speaker 16: Listen, the most expensive city in the United States of

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Speaker 16: America finally become affordable for the working New.

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Speaker 8: Yorkers who make it so special.

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Speaker 16: And to take on inequality, we know the most effective

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Speaker 16: tool is Union densin because as I stand here alongside

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Speaker 16: our ever expanding coalition, I am confident of not only

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Speaker 16: winning a city hall that puts working people first, but

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Speaker 16: finally bringing in to the chapter in our city led

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Speaker 16: by our current mayor.

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Speaker 1: Frank. You probably don't know this, but I'm half Italian

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Speaker 1: and my grandfather and my great grandfather were contractors in

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Speaker 1: New York City, union contractors, big electrical construction companies. They

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Speaker 1: say the unions ruined New York City. They want to

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Speaker 1: talk about making things cheaper. You're not going to make

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Speaker 1: things cheaper with what he's talking about and making city

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Speaker 1: run grocery stores.

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Speaker 15: Frank, Well, look, I think I agree with the fundamental

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Speaker 15: thing that he's right bringing up, which is that New

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Speaker 15: York is unaffordable and it's very difficult for middle class

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Speaker 15: and working class families to get a break. What I

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Speaker 15: disagree with is almost all of his policy prescriptions on

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Speaker 15: how he's going to go about fixing that. His broad

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Speaker 15: plan grant very creative. I don't know if you've ever

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Speaker 15: heard about this. It's to raise taxes.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 15: I don't know why no politician has ever tried this before,

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Speaker 15: but he wants to raise taxes on both corporations and individuals.

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Speaker 15: Now do you think is going to happen if you're

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Speaker 15: a corporation and can move to another state with a

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Speaker 15: lower tax jurisdiction in the case of New York City,

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Speaker 15: just a lower tax municipality, they're going to drive jobs

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Speaker 15: out of this city faster than you can say zo

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Speaker 15: from you know, because this is bad news, grant.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of people around the country who don't

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Speaker 1: understand that in New York City you pay city income tax.

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Speaker 1: That's a foreign idea to most people who live in

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Speaker 1: most towns, especially in red states across the country. I'm

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Speaker 1: in Texas. We don't pay any income tax, not in cities,

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Speaker 1: not in state, not anywhere. And you guys are getting

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Speaker 1: hammered already in New York City real quick. If you

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Speaker 1: can in thirty seconds, how do we beat him?

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Speaker 8: So there's two schools of thought on that, right. My

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Speaker 8: school of thought is, let's use.

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Speaker 15: The fact that there's a fractured democratic field Cuomo Adams

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Speaker 15: both running as independence and hope that the Democratic vote,

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Speaker 15: which is about sixty five to seventy percent of the vote,

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Speaker 15: Hope that votes splinters and allow Curtis Lee the opportunity.

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Speaker 8: To win with a plurality. Now, the other school of thought.

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Speaker 17: Says that no, Curtis, Cuomo, and Adams all have to

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Speaker 17: team up in order to beat Mom Donnie and rally

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Speaker 17: behind one of those folks, presumably Adams at or Cuomo

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Speaker 17: as depending on.

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Speaker 8: Who you talk to, they think that's the best strategy.

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Speaker 8: So there's still dueling methodologies.

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Speaker 15: I'm expecting some new polling to come out within the

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Speaker 15: next week or two.

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Speaker 5: We'll see where that goes.

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Speaker 1: I got to get Curtis on the program. He's a

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Speaker 1: friend of mine like he is yours. I know you

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Speaker 1: support him. He's a Republican candidate in this race. He'd

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Speaker 1: be great. I think he has a very tough time,

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Speaker 1: as you and I talked of winning in New York,

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Speaker 1: but he would be the man for the job, that's

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Speaker 1: for sure, as opposed to the other two. Counselman Frank

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Speaker 1: Morano in New York City, Thank you, my friend. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. As always, Grant.

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Speaker 15: I appreciate you. I appreciate your audience. And folks want

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Speaker 15: to follow me on Twitter. Frank Moretto, I'm tweeting about

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Speaker 15: this race all day long.

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Speaker 1: All right, sounds good? Frank, we appreciate it and give

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Speaker 1: him a follow. He's a good man, I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: that much.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 1: Despite what is happening in New York City, there is

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Speaker 1: a glimmer of hope for our friends in the Northeast.

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Speaker 1: We will show you what I'm talking about next. Well, folks,

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Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say we'd like to turn

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Speaker 1: every blue state red across the country. Would help a

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Speaker 1: lot of our fellow Americans. If you're in a blue

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Speaker 1: state right now, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: The Association for Mature American Citizens is helping to do that.

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Speaker 1: They don't give up on anybody. They're in California, they're

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Speaker 1: in Maine, They're in all kinds of blue states. I

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Speaker 1: want to bring in. Now, he's with a back the

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Speaker 1: Association for Mature American Citizens, the former Navy intel officer,

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Speaker 1: former assistant secretary of State, and he's also now a

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Speaker 1: Republican candidate for Maine Governor. Robert Charles is with us. Robert,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 8: Hey, it's great to be on your show always.

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Speaker 1: All Right, you got this Janet Mills character out out

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Speaker 1: in Maine. I think she's bad for Maine, she'd be

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Speaker 1: bad for any state. Trump basically said, we're going to

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Speaker 1: get you out of office. You set some fundraising records

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Speaker 1: on that front. Is Trump behind that at all?

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't know that he's directly behind it,

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Speaker 6: but I'll tell you the spirit of Donald Trump is

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Speaker 6: awake in my campaign.

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Speaker 8: Every day of the week.

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Speaker 5: You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 8: What's happened here is it?

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Speaker 6: Common sense is making a comeback in the great state

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Speaker 6: of Maine. We just raised in seventy five days. We

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Speaker 6: just raised three hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. We

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Speaker 6: literally had probably almost four hundred the under the one

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Speaker 6: hundred dollars mark. We actually raised more money at this

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Speaker 6: stage of the campaign for governor as a Republican than

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Speaker 6: any Republican in the history of the state. So again,

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Speaker 6: if people want to help, they go to Bobbyfourmaine dot com.

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Speaker 6: But let me tell you what's really happening, Mayner's. It's

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Speaker 6: sort of the oppose to what's going on in New York.

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Speaker 6: In New York City, Mainers are sick and tired of

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Speaker 6: being used and abused by the Democrats in this state.

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Speaker 6: They want their taxes cut. They don't want them increased.

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Speaker 6: We have the highest property taxes in the country. They

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Speaker 6: want drug traffickers out of this state. They do not

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Speaker 6: want more illegal aliens here. They want to get rid

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Speaker 6: of them.

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Speaker 8: And so I'll tell you what I think is happening.

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Speaker 6: Part of what's happening here is there is a wake

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Speaker 6: up call, an inflection point, an alarm ringing in people's ears.

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Speaker 8: Here in Maine. They're saying, you know what, we have

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Speaker 8: suffered long enough. We want to change. And so it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 8: The sales are billowing.

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Speaker 6: They are filled with energy in all sixteen counties of

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Speaker 6: this state.

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Speaker 1: So, Robert, let me ask you. I grew up in

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Speaker 1: the northeast, go up to vacation in Maine is one

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Speaker 1: of the most beautiful states in the country. I had

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Speaker 1: always looked at it as somewhat like a Colorado West place.

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Speaker 1: You would think this is to pick yourself up by

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Speaker 1: your bootstraps. You'd think it will be ripe for Republican

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Speaker 1: ideals and the free spirit and go out, you know,

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Speaker 1: against cold and you got nobody there to help you

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Speaker 1: but you and your family. Where did it go wrong

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Speaker 1: along the way?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, excellent question. What happened is by a very small margin.

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Speaker 6: The Democrats have controlled the legislature and they have with

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Speaker 6: Mills had literally the last two cycles as a governor.

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Speaker 6: What's happened is it was really what's happened really is

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Speaker 6: the Democratic Party, which used to be a Norman Rockwell party,

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Speaker 6: has gone hard left and it leaves nowhere for Democrats

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Speaker 6: to go, which is why not only will we win

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Speaker 6: the primary, but I really think we'll pull the traditional JFK,

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Speaker 6: Harry Truman, even Carter Clinton Democrats our way, because at

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Speaker 6: the end of the day, Mayners just want that exact

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Speaker 6: description you gave.

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Speaker 8: They want their Norman Rockwell America back. They want their

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Speaker 8: income taxes down.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, when we slash income taxes, all

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Speaker 6: those New York companies that are scared to death now

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Speaker 6: they can all come back to Maine.

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Speaker 8: We're going to rebuild the growth cycle here.

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Speaker 5: We're going to you know, re.

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Speaker 6: Literally remake our education system, and we're going to make

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Speaker 6: this this state be that place.

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Speaker 8: At once was.

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Speaker 1: What's the the percentage of independence, Republicans and Democrats in

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Speaker 1: your state?

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Speaker 8: You know, you almost have a one two three a division.

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Speaker 6: And what a lot of the Independence of course are

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Speaker 6: also they are also anti government.

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Speaker 8: They're libertarians.

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Speaker 6: A lot of Manors are just curmudgeonly folks that want

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Speaker 6: want the government, you know, to get out of their

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Speaker 6: face and let them have their life.

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Speaker 8: You know, that's what I grew up with.

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Speaker 6: The town that I'm in right now is one that

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Speaker 6: I grew up in, and you know, we were basically

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Speaker 6: trained by World War Two vets. This was a state

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Speaker 6: very heavily filled with veterans. A lot of the values

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Speaker 6: of the World War Two era are the values that

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Speaker 6: Maners basically want back again.

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Speaker 8: They want to be able to have choices in their life.

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Speaker 8: They don't want mandates.

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Speaker 1: Are those people not signing up with a particular party.

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Speaker 6: We have what they call unaffiliated and then we have

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Speaker 6: a very strong Republican Party and the Democrat Party, which

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Speaker 6: used to be more traditional, has gone hard left and

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Speaker 6: they are now really very hard left. I mean, they're

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Speaker 6: almost unrecognizable.

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Speaker 1: This is why Robert Charles, I think you have a

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Speaker 1: really good shot at winning this. Especially money is king

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Speaker 1: in politics, especially a main because it can go a

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Speaker 1: really really long way. Media is cheap to buy in

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Speaker 1: a state like that, compared to where I am in Texas.

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Speaker 1: Try to buy a commercial in Dallas or New York City.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine with that? Robert Charles, I want to

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Speaker 1: say thank you, and I want to give big props

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Speaker 1: to the organization you work with, which is AMAC. And

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Speaker 1: right now, folks, you can get a five year AMAC

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Speaker 1: membership for only thirty five dollars. Go to AMAC dot

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Speaker 1: us forward slash grant, You get the AMAC magazine, all

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Speaker 1: kinds of discounts, and you become part of a movement

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Speaker 1: taking this country back. Go to AMAC dot us forward

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Speaker 1: slash grant. All right. When the left tells you who

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Speaker 1: they are, believe them next, folks, few democrat, a socialists,

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Speaker 1: a communist, and if you're in America, I will do

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Speaker 1: my best to still keep you safe. I don't want

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Speaker 1: anybody hurt. But these leftists are sick os. Man, listen

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Speaker 1: to what this guy says about the flood victims in Texas.

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Speaker 1: You guys voted to take this national weather service away.

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Speaker 6: You guys voted and cheered on dose shutting everything down.

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Speaker 1: I don't care about you people. I hope you suffer

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Speaker 1: worse than anyone.

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Speaker 12: I hope the parents of these kids regret every day

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Speaker 12: voting for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: I hope your parents call you up and scold you

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Speaker 1: because you're out of line. And by the way, the

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Speaker 1: National Weather Service being cut was a total fake news story.

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Speaker 1: They had extra staff on board. But that kind of

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Speaker 1: behavior makes you wonder who raised that. I'm not even

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Speaker 1: calling a young man a lunatic. That's it for us.