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Speaker 2: All.

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Speaker 1: Right, here we go, guys.

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Speaker 2: We are one week away from the twenty twenty three

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft. Welcome into a brand new episode of Charge Weekly,

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Speaker 2: as always, joined by Matt Muney, Smith and Money. I

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Speaker 2: neglected to talk about this last week, and I was

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Speaker 1: I got the video late.

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Speaker 2: Did you see our producer Greg Kim catching football from

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Speaker 2: the Chickame?

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 2: I thought he did pretty damn well. I thought he

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Speaker 2: did very well. And you know, we talk about wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: I think great Kim at least is worth a spot

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Speaker 2: in the summertime. And Greg, I saw you also catching

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Speaker 2: punts and with the absence of DeAndre Carter. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you want to get on the mic and

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Speaker 2: just talk about that experience. Greg, if you're still there,

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Speaker 2: what was that like? Catching to Justin Herbert football? It's

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Speaker 2: that recording your audio? Okay, well that's a shame.

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Speaker 1: Look at that. That's back to back. You blew it, Chris.

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Speaker 1: You blew it last week by not bringing it up,

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Speaker 1: and you blew it this week by trying to bring

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Speaker 1: Greg in when you can't come on.

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Speaker 2: Way to go, some host it's worse now because I

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Speaker 2: set up up. I asked him a question. He can't

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Speaker 2: even talk anyway. It was awesome, and uh, I really

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Speaker 1: Greg. I saw you.

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Speaker 2: Wearing the helmet and everything was pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: But that was fun. When they said all right, let's

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Speaker 1: go up to justin Herbert mode. It's like, you think

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Speaker 1: you're doing pretty well, yeah, on the on the machine,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they're like, okay, now

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Speaker 1: let's show you what it's like when it's justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: When you start getting peppered. They d oh, that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what happened. Greg. Yeah, oh yeah, there we go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: check it out. It's on uh, it's on Chargers dot com.

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Speaker 1: It is great. But I thought Greg did a bang

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Speaker 2: Catching the punts too.

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Speaker 2: I think you did one of those things where you

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Speaker 2: there's an opening at that position. So Greg shout out

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Speaker 2: Well, mony the off season program Phase one is here.

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Speaker 2: We got to hear from Brandon Staley and he was

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Speaker 2: very specific. Ninety three days since our last game YEA

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Speaker 2: I think we have to start with Jalen Hurts in

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Speaker 2: that monster contract that he got two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: We were waiting to see which quarterback was going to

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl MVP, all right, definitely would have been

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Speaker 1: Well, look, I can't say it enough. I've said it already.

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Speaker 1: I try, And it takes two it's two parties. It's

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Speaker 1: not a unilateral negotiation. Right, So get this thing done.

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Speaker 1: The sooner you get it done, the less money it's

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Speaker 1: even though he's a runner up MVP, took his team

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Speaker 1: camp is saying. I get it. His accomplishments are higher

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Speaker 1: And look, I have no problem coming clean on this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and at this point, if if Burrow gets a

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Speaker 1: So it's just I think the one like, the one

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Speaker 1: not it's not the player, it's the agent that wants

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Speaker 2: And hey, we've seen it different, right, We've seen Kirk

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Speaker 2: That's what it is. But we hope, right, yeah, we hope.

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Speaker 2: But I go back to that twenty twenty draft money

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Speaker 1: you go play football for MO. It's different now with nil,

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Speaker 2: you know, really the guys. You know, we've seen Mike

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Speaker 2: He's comfortable with Sean Shawn's calling the plays and that's

433
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Speaker 2: a marriage that works. I do credit Brandon for bringing

434
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Speaker 2: in Kellen Moore and saying, hey, we got to be

435
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 2: better offensively, because they do have to be better offensively. Hey,

436
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Speaker 2: I want to I want to run this thing by

437
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 2: you too. So Bill Barnwell did these trades, these hypothetical trades,

438
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Speaker 2: And I bring it up because we've talked about the

439
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 2: wide receiver position a lot and staying put versus trading

440
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 2: up and what have you. So I'm just gonna read

441
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Speaker 2: this and get your thoughts. LA general manager Tom Telesco

442
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 2: almost always stays put in the opening round of the draft,

443
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 2: but that's not an option here. The Chargers, at the

444
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Speaker 2: beginning of a group of teams that expect to look

445
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 2: for wide receivers, but any of those can move ahead

446
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 2: of LA to make a trade with the Bucks or Seahawks.

447
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 2: In this case, the Chargers would be moving ahead of

448
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 2: the Packers at No. Number fifteen, so they would move

449
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Speaker 2: up to number one fourteen. The Packers drafting a wide

450
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 2: receiver in the first round still seems to be a

451
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 2: theory as opposed to something that may actually happen, but

452
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 2: this would be a way for the Charges to land

453
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Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigba as the long term replacement for

454
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Speaker 2: Keenan Allen. A more speedy option could be in play,

455
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 2: although the Charges could probably stay put and grabs a

456
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Speaker 2: Flowers or Jalen Hyatt. So we haven't talked much about

457
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Speaker 2: Smith and Jigba, and I do think he is kind

458
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Speaker 2: of the consensus number one. I think we have to

459
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Speaker 2: put everything in its proper context. The cap hit for

460
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Speaker 2: Keenan and Mike is gigantic in twenty twenty four, so

461
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Speaker 2: that leads me to believe one of them isn't going

462
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Speaker 2: to be on the roster in a year, maybe both,

463
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Speaker 2: but probably one. If this is the Keenan Allen let's

464
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Speaker 2: say replacement after this past year this next year, is

465
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Speaker 2: that something that you would be comfortable with or do

466
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Speaker 2: you want to kind of go all in, stand put,

467
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Speaker 2: stay pat and get a a wide receiver with speed

468
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Speaker 2: to compliment those two guys as opposed to look to

469
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Speaker 2: the future.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting. I don't I don't envision it happening, just

471
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Speaker 1: because I as good as Smith and Jigba is, and

472
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Speaker 1: he's good. You know, when he was on the field

473
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Speaker 1: with a Lave and Garrett Wilson, he was the best

474
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Speaker 1: receiver two years ago. That's how good he is. However,

475
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Speaker 1: I think there's some concern about the injuries, about missing

476
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Speaker 1: almost an entire season with a handstring that was that's

477
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Speaker 1: that's a bit of a red flag for me. The

478
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Speaker 1: Ohio State offense, it just it produces gargantuan numbers for

479
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Speaker 1: wide receivers and look at Lave and Garret Wilson were

480
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 1: both exceptional last year. So I don't think it's fair

481
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Speaker 1: to stick that. But I think it's important to remember

482
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 1: this offense puts up monster numbers for wide receivers, but

483
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: he is special, no doubt about it. I think for me,

484
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Speaker 1: that's seven spots to go from twenty one to fourteen

485
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 1: that's gonna cost you. It's gonna probably cost you, it

486
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Speaker 1: might cost you your two because that's i'd I don't

487
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Speaker 1: have the Jimmy Johnson chart in front of me. I

488
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: don't know what the points are, but if I were

489
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Speaker 1: to guess, it's a minimum of A three and maybe

490
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Speaker 1: a two. And they just can't afford to do that.

491
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 1: They need those picks they need. I would much rather

492
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Speaker 1: trade back. You know, our conversation with Renner about you know,

493
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Speaker 1: a depth and what you might be able to get

494
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Speaker 1: when you move back with Brett last week when we

495
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Speaker 1: were talking about what's available if you move back, and

496
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Speaker 1: to me the gap between what Smith and Jigbu and

497
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Speaker 1: what Zay Flowers who could be there at twenty one

498
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Speaker 1: or Jordan Addison at twenty when Jordan Adison's Keenan Allen

499
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Speaker 1: as well. He's not as big, he's not as strong

500
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Speaker 1: and as thick. But in terms of route running, in

501
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 1: terms of separation, you know, Keenan's greatest attribute. One he's

502
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: one of the smartest receivers in the league. But two

503
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: is he operates at one speed. When people talk about

504
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: route running, I think fans don't quite understand. Yes, every

505
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: people can run routes. Yeah, or I said it is

506
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: crisp are your breaks is claim. What is Keenan's secret

507
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: sauce is everything's the exact same speed, so you have

508
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: no idea. He doesn't he doesn't slow down, he doesn't

509
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: explode out of his bricks. It's just it's it's uncanny.

510
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: It's unlike anybody else in the league, where he is

511
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: just operating at one speed. Calvin Ridley is like this too,

512
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: where everything except he's a little bit of a better

513
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: athlete than Keenan and everything is just you don't know

514
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: where he's going because it's all the same speed. So

515
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: that's what Smith and jigb is capable of doing, and

516
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: that's what makes him very special. But he's not explosive

517
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Speaker 1: like you know, like a Ze Flowers is explosive, and

518
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Speaker 1: and Jordan Addison is like Keenan and like Smith and

519
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: Jig but in that way. And he just found himself

520
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: in a Lincoln Riley offense that doesn't feature anyone. Lincoln

521
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: is he will spread it all out and it does

522
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: not matter you will you know you're going to get

523
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: your targets if you're open. I have no interest in

524
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: getting a bulittan a cough winner because I'm going to

525
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: feature you because you're a really good receiver. No, it's

526
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 1: just gonna go where it goes. So when you go

527
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: back two years and watch Jordan Addison though, that's what

528
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: I would say to people that are down on him.

529
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: And let's not forget who's his coach was too, by

530
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: the way, at Pitt, and who recruited him to Pitt,

531
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 1: Chris Baty. So there's a connection there. So I cannot

532
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: imagine Tom being in that room having baby sitting there

533
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: and go, Addison's probably gonna fall in our laps and

534
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to give up with two to go

535
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: up and get Smith and Jig. But what do you think?

536
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 1: I'm sure baby be like, dude, just sit here for

537
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: Addison's he is good. You are fine. So love Bill.

538
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: He does great work at ESPN. But could not agree

539
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: with him more.

540
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, and Bill's defense, I think this

541
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 2: is just a thought provoking exercise. I think he did

542
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 2: this with all the teams right, potential trades and trade out,

543
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 2: So he's he's doing that to you know, smart interest.

544
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and which one makes I got you, which one

545
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: of these makes sense?

546
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: Exactly. There's some intrigue there, but I think if you

547
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 2: do stand pap Zay Flowers or Jordan Addison would be

548
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: a perfect number two in this offense, regardless what happens

549
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 2: at twenty twenty.

550
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: Fe Let's not forget about Josh Palmer. You know, he fits

551
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: that Keenan. He fits that Keenan role more than he

552
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: does an outside. You know, he can excel there and

553
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: he's gotten better every year. So I'm just more comfortable

554
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: with let's get an explosive guy on the outside, and

555
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: if you have to move on from Keenan next year,

556
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: I hope you don't. I hope there's a way you

557
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: can figure that out. And he stays healthy for seventeen

558
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: games and you make a Super Bowl run and it's like, yeah, yeah,

559
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: we're comfortable given him a few more years. Let's do it.

560
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: You know, that's ideal for me, And I feel good

561
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: about zech.

562
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Speaker 2: Like ever since you said it a couple of weeks ago,

563
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: that the Za Flowers hype for me has been increasing,

564
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: and it just it seems to make a lot of sense, right,

565
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: It just seems to make a lot of the tape.

566
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 1: Man, It's crazy, how explosive that guy is.

567
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know the tight end position, whether it's

568
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: kinkad or Mayor looking at DJ's top fifty, it's you

569
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: look at the guys who are kind of in that

570
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 2: that territory, and Addison's there, Zay Flowers is there? Those

571
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 2: are the two. I think Michael Mayer's number twenty one

572
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: on his big board. Kin Kate is nine, right, So

573
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: like the value you would get with a Dalton Kincate

574
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: if he happened to be there at twenty one would

575
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: be spectacular.

576
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: Right. It's funny though, Chris like, and this is what

577
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: we were getting at with with Brett last week, is

578
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: it's also important to think about positions. And this is

579
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 1: what makes the drafts the draft so hard, is you

580
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: also have to look at the position groups from a

581
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: depth standpoint. Who's going to be there when we picked

582
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: u out? Okay, what's here? We're sitting and I'm staring

583
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: at Za Flowers, Jordan Addison, both Mayor and Ken cad

584
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: are there. You know, I'm trying to think of what

585
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: McDonald is there? At edge, You've got Canci there, what

586
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: cornerback maybe more is there? At cornerback? Banks is there?

587
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: Like now you have to look at right, what's available

588
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: in the second round. The way that guys like DJ

589
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: are describing this tight end group is that it's the

590
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: deepest tight end group they have ever seen. That If

591
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: Kinkaid and Mayer aren't in this draft, Darnell Washington and

592
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: either musk Raad Right or Laporta, those guys are going

593
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: to go on the first round. But it's just because

594
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: it's so so Now, I think you have to ask yourself. Okay,

595
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: if we take Zay because he's here at twenty one,

596
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: what are the chances of us getting musk Grave or

597
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: Laporta at with our second round pick? Probably pretty good?

598
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: If we take kN Caid here, what are the chances

599
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: of us getting a wide receiver that fits what we

600
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: would maybe get from Zay? Maybe you don't get that

601
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: full package, But do we get enough out of the

602
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver we take in this second Okay, are we

603
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: gonna find a defensive end like McDonald or like or

604
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: are we gonna find a corner like Branch if we wait?

605
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: Probably not. So let's let's take the end here and

606
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: let's get the receiver. See what I mean? Like, So

607
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: that's the sort of stuff that starts to come into play,

608
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: you have what's called two boards. You have a horizontal,

609
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: you have a horizontal, you have a vertical. Your vertical

610
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: what most teams have one fifty it's just one thre

611
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: Like you said, whatever, DJ has this players at nine,

612
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: this player's at fifteen. This play, and if you're a

613
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: best team available, you're like, all right, we're picking a

614
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: twenty one. There's our guy that's got the number eight

615
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: next to them. We'll take them. So the horizontal is

616
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: now you've got all these grades and it's run by positions.

617
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: So now you're looking at these horizontal categories of Okay,

618
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: here's my Zay Flowers. He's a I didn't even want

619
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: to get into the way these scouts do the scoring system.

620
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: When I hear DJ and Lance talk about I'm like, hell,

621
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,239
Speaker 1: you guys talking about six ninety four. No, I've got

622
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: him as a six eight eight. I've got him at

623
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: a six seven seven, and he's a six seven nine.

624
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: So I would totally tell you what. I don't know

625
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: how the scouts do it, but that's the way. So

626
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: just imagine you've got three wide receivers that on a

627
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 1: one to ten scale, you've got them at nine, and

628
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: now I've got six of them that are eight, and

629
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: I've got five of them that are seven. So you're like, dude,

630
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: I can get this seven in the third round, but

631
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: I got to spend a first on a nine, and

632
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: the gap I have between them is pretty damn close.

633
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: That's what I'm getting at. So to me, a lot

634
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: of that is going to come into play because of

635
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: how deep these positions of need are for the Chargers

636
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: running back. If you want to talk about Beesewan, we

637
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: talked about that with Brett, with Roshan potentially being like

638
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: someone like that or Tank or one of those guys

639
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: into the charbonnet. You know, that's what you now have

640
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: to start balancing out, who's here, what's that position group

641
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: that look like? When we get to hear and here,

642
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: I want.

643
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: To run another scenario by let's take a quick break.

644
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: We'll do it on the other side, all right, guys.

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Speaker 2: To that point, let's just say at twenty one, Zave

661
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Speaker 2: Flowers is there and they really want say they select Zay.

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Speaker 2: But that's when I think it gets really interesting because

663
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Speaker 2: there may be a couple of those tight ends available,

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Speaker 2: or a corner or an edge that they have really

665
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Speaker 2: highly graded. I think at that point that's when maybe

666
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Speaker 2: you think about trading up right, get your guy in

667
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Speaker 2: the first round, and then say, hey, this is this

668
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 2: is a heck of an opportunity to get this guy

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Speaker 2: that we have a huge grade on that still is

670
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Speaker 2: on the board. Let's trade our second and a third

671
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Speaker 2: next year to move up to you know, whatever it

672
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Speaker 2: is to secure a guy that may be available, because

673
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Speaker 2: at twenty one, right now, you have no idea what's

674
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Speaker 2: going to happen. I know that Tom probably has a

675
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Speaker 2: pretty good idea of where you know, and I remember

676
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Speaker 2: Tom talking about when they drafted Slater, they had a

677
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Speaker 2: pretty good idea that nobody was gonna select him and

678
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Speaker 2: they didn't have to move up. I remember saying, shoot,

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Speaker 2: move up, move up to get Slater. Tom knew what

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Speaker 2: he was doing. So Tom will probably have a pretty

681
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Speaker 2: good read on the board. You get the guy you

682
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Speaker 2: wanted twenty one. There could be a guy that you say, hey,

683
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Speaker 2: let's move back into the first round. I remember they

684
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Speaker 2: did it with Kenneth Murray a few years ago. Maybe

685
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Speaker 2: there's a guy that did they have eyes on on

686
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Speaker 2: defense or a tight end or another wide receiver. But

687
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Speaker 2: securing your guy at twenty one with that without having

688
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Speaker 2: to trade up, I think is probably the move.

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Speaker 1: So it's interesting as you bring that up. Now, now

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Speaker 1: I'll present you with the counter to that. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: for me, it goes had we had I think we

692
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Speaker 1: did this about a month ago. We talked about the

693
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Speaker 1: construction of the roster and how you look at rosters

694
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Speaker 1: around the league, and when you look at teams that

695
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Speaker 1: have healthy roster construction, you're going to see a lot

696
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Speaker 1: of rookie contracts. You don't want to see a lot

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Speaker 1: of veteran contracts. And right now the Chargers are one

698
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Speaker 1: of the heaviest veteran laden rosters. They need more guys

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Speaker 1: on rookie deals. So now you get rid of that third.

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Speaker 1: For the most part, twos and three should be starters.

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Speaker 1: If you're doing a good job, your twos and your

702
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Speaker 1: threes are starters on your team. Maybe as soon as

703
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Speaker 1: their first year, they can get in there and they

704
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Speaker 1: can contribute. So now I've pulled up renters top tens

705
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Speaker 1: over at PFF right, So instead of taking Zay who's falling,

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Speaker 1: Who's Zay Flowers, who's fallen to you in the first

707
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Speaker 1: round at twenty one? You love him, he's great, fits

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Speaker 1: exactly what you want. You trade back. Now you've somebody

709
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Speaker 1: else wants to come up and get them. They want to,

710
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Speaker 1: and now your receiver options tanked. Dell could be available

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Speaker 1: for you in the second round. We talked about at

712
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Speaker 1: Perry with Brett just great speed out of wake Forest.

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Speaker 1: You know, he could be available for you in the

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Speaker 1: third round. So now that's what your wide receivers look

715
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 1: like instead of is a flower Jalen Hyatt it's one

716
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Speaker 1: trick pony. You know, it's really kind of a one

717
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Speaker 1: game spotlight against Alabama and what he and Hooker did

718
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Speaker 1: to the Crimson Tide in that game. But he's probably

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Speaker 1: gonna be available in the second when you pick. I

720
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Speaker 1: would guess. So they're not zay Farers. But now you

721
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Speaker 1: go to your tight ends. Okay, so we missed out

722
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Speaker 1: on Dalton Kincaid and Michael Mayer, but Sam Laporta could

723
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Speaker 1: be there in the second. Luke Muskraves could be Luke

724
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Speaker 1: Luke Muskrave. Darnell Washington might be available in the second.

725
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Speaker 1: Even Tucker Craft, that's like one of DJ's favorite guys.

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00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna be available in the third. And like

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00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: I said, when you have this deep of a class,

728
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Speaker 1: these guys get pushed down. And now you're talking about

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Speaker 1: an edge defender two we two a polo two out

730
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Speaker 1: of you know, out of sc is probably gonna be

731
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Speaker 1: So now you got two two's and your three, and

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Speaker 1: maybe even trade back your three and you get another

733
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Speaker 1: you know, you get somebody else's three that's further back

734
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Speaker 1: in the third, and you pick up a five now,

735
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Speaker 1: and now you can stack some picks and start to

736
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Speaker 1: build some depth. What I'm getting at is in those

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Speaker 1: in those two position groups, as we discussed last week

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Speaker 1: with Brett Brett Coleman is I think it was Brett

739
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Speaker 1: that we talked about it with. But there isn't really

740
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Speaker 1: that elite guy that Garrett Wilson, that Jamar Chase. But

741
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: it's a deep group. You feel really good. So on

742
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Speaker 1: that horizontal board that the chargers have, maybe the grade

743
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Speaker 1: between z Flowers and and At Perry or the grade

744
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: between Za and Tank Dell or Jalen isn't that far.

745
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Speaker 1: And they're like, you know what, we can probably just

746
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Speaker 1: get out of here and feel like we're gonna get

747
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: a guy that's comparable talent. So Justin Herbert throwing him

748
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Speaker 1: the ball maybe the difference right, one hundred percent. Right.

749
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Speaker 1: We've said that Justin makes okay receivers good, he makes

750
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Speaker 1: good receivers great, he makes great receivers all pros. So

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Speaker 1: from a from a fan perspective.

752
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Speaker 2: When you look at the draft, it's very easy to

753
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 2: just look at the short term and look at, Okay,

754
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: how's this guy going to contribute this year? Right, But

755
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: you know, it's a great point the front office is

756
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: thinking long term, man long term. Obviously they want they

757
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: want contributors out of this rookie class, but it's not

758
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: just about twenty twenty three. Especially when you look at

759
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: the cap numbers with a lot of these and you

760
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 2: look at Edge getting older, you look at really there's

761
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: not a long term tight end on this roster, so

762
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: they could go in a variety of directions, keeping in

763
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 2: line with the wide receiver theme. Jalen Geitton is back,

764
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Speaker 2: and we've talked about adding speed, and I think the

765
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Speaker 2: one thing about Jalen money is you know, you never

766
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Speaker 2: want to see an injury like that. At least it

767
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: happened in September, and you know, the hope is that

768
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Speaker 2: you know, once training camp comes in July, that Jalen

769
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Speaker 2: is hopefully close to his his former self. He's still

770
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Speaker 2: a young guy. All that said, they still need speed,

771
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Speaker 2: but it was nice to see them bring in Jalen

772
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Speaker 2: because I remember there's a lot of games down the

773
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Speaker 2: stretch in twenty twenty one, I believe I remember Cincinnati

774
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,959
Speaker 2: the Giants game where Jalen came up huge, and again

775
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 2: it goes to the point of, you know, Justin was

776
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Speaker 2: finding t Billy and all these guys' rookie year and

777
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Speaker 2: Guiden and Jailing is a nice addition to this wide receiver.

778
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think there's any reason not to sign him,

779
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, for what the money is, and you developed him.

780
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: There's certainly chemistry between he and Herbert. I think it's

781
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: what four catches of fifty plus or more of fifty

782
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: plus yards Giants. The pitch and catch on the Giants

783
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: game is the greatest touchdown throw I've ever seen. So

784
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: there's something there, So why not, you know, And that's

785
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 1: just vout. That's value. That's the second wave of free

786
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: agency and value, and there's still value out there. I'm

787
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: still when it comes to the edge, and I'm sure

788
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: they've had conversations, but I know how much he loves him,

789
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: and I'm still holding out. Maybe Leonard Floyd and out

790
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: there Brandon Staley are still having conversations of come on,

791
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: can we get you on like an incentive laden deal

792
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: and then put you back in the market next year

793
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: and one of those things. So that's the way you

794
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: can develop your depth at your edge position. Then you

795
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: don't have to focus on that as much guidance coming back.

796
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: Like you said, the ACL injury happened in September, you'd

797
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: hope he's ready to go by the start of the season,

798
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: and at least that gives you some element of speed.

799
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Speaker 1: You hope he has a full recovery and it comes back.

800
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Speaker 1: It seems like these days that an ACL is like

801
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: a spim. It sounds stupid, but you know it's like

802
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: a sprained ankle compete ten years ago. Yeah, so I

803
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Speaker 1: think there's there's a security blanket there. We've got a

804
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: guy with speed, We've got a guy that we know

805
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Speaker 1: can make explosive plays. We just got to make sure

806
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Speaker 1: he's healthy. And maybe now we don't need to freak

807
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: out as much about overdrafting for that particular skill set.

808
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Speaker 1: But you brought it up, and I think it was

809
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 1: a great point. I do want to just acknowledge it. Chris,

810
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: that and that is a big thing. You'll hear Tom

811
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Speaker 1: Telesco say a lot. We're not drafting these guys for

812
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. We're drafting them to be Chargers for

813
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Speaker 1: their career. So maybe he can get on the field

814
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Speaker 1: this year, maybe we think he needs a year of development,

815
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Speaker 1: but after that he's got potential to be a pro

816
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: bowler and those that's the way you've got to approach this.

817
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: You draft for twenty twenty three and you end up

818
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: stumbling over yourself and you make way too many mistakes

819
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Speaker 1: because you're overdrafting guys for one particular season, and then

820
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: you're hoping that their skills translate to the NFL, which

821
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: is a gigantic jump from what they were experiencing in college.

822
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Speaker 2: I think a good way to look at last year's

823
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 2: rookie class for guys who didn't get on the field

824
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 2: or who had flashes but got hurt like Tito Abonia,

825
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 2: Isaiah Spiller, JT. Woods. Those are three guys that I

826
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Speaker 2: think can help this team this year that didn't help

827
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Speaker 2: the team last year. Tito Ebonia did until he got hurt.

828
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Speaker 2: But those are three guys that, again, they were drafted

829
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Speaker 2: to be Chargers, not to be Chargers in twenty twenty two.

830
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Speaker 2: So it's as exciting as the twenty three draft is

831
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Speaker 2: going to be. Think about the guys that they selected

832
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Speaker 2: last year who didn't contribute because there were other guys

833
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 2: in front of them or needed some time to fully devel.

834
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Speaker 2: This is a big off season for guys like JT.

835
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Speaker 2: Woods and Isaiah Spiller and Tito Bonya.

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Speaker 1: Woods is the big one. They drafted him with eyes

837
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Speaker 1: on him being a starter, and it's just a hard

838
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Speaker 1: position high safety. You've got to be able to read

839
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Speaker 1: the whole field. You've got to know everything. You've got

840
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: to take angles, you've got to diagnose, you've got to

841
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: decide am I moving forward? Am I moving backwards. It's

842
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: a lot to take in. We know he's got the

843
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: tracking skills, he's got the ball skills, needs to be

844
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Speaker 1: a better tackler. That was an issue when he was

845
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Speaker 1: at Baylor. And you know how slight he is, so

846
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Speaker 1: you hope in the off season and opportunity to put

847
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Speaker 1: on a bunch of weight because look a lot of

848
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: times when you're going into the combine and you're someone

849
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Speaker 1: like that, you want to run that lightning fast forty

850
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: so you're not putting on that weight and it takes

851
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: a second for you to catch up. So I'm hoping

852
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: he bulks up a little bit to help with his tackling.

853
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: But that's the big to me. Woods is a big

854
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: one just because no More nas Aloe was great, but

855
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: he doesn't have that same explosiveness that someone like J. T.

856
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: Woods has at that high safety position. And on top

857
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: of that, if you can play those two guys not

858
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: just a lowie and Derwin is your safeties, but you

859
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 1: can play you know, both a LOWI and JT up top, well,

860
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: now you can cut Derwin loose and make them whatever

861
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: you want. You talk about him being that dollar or

862
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: that money linebacker, the you know, the star as a

863
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: corner an edge rusher, and just send him firing off

864
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: an end repeatedly in games because he's able to do

865
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: all that. And when you have those two safeties up there,

866
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: you're able to do that and just play Kendricks as

867
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: your one linebacker, Derwin out there, those two guys up high,

868
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: your two corners, and now you can really get after it.

869
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: A couple quick notes before we get out of here.

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00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: From Brandon Sealey's presser, it seems like same comments as

871
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 2: far as Austin Eckler's concerned. No new updates on that front.

872
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 2: The punt returner kick returner I comment I thought was interesting.

873
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 2: It seems like maybe that guy's not on the roster yet,

874
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 2: and right they need to identify that in the spring

875
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: and the and J. C. Jackson really no new updates

876
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: on him, he's just rehaving so I think his availability

877
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,479
Speaker 2: remains a little bit of a mystery as we head

878
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: into the offseason and eventually into training camp. Anything else

879
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: that Staley said that stood out to you, money.

880
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: I think so just talked about, you know, one of

881
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: the things you already addressed, the Kellen Moore thing. I

882
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: think his comments about Kellen and how they went and

883
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: got him, I think it echoes what we've talked about here.

884
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: One of the great things about Brandon Staley as a

885
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: head coaches, he lets the offensive coordinator do what the

886
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator wants to do. He does not meddle, you know,

887
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: the go forward on fourth down, the downs and stuff

888
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, that's a head coach's responsibility. But it

889
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: certainly sounded like Kellen's really good at this. We're looking

890
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: forward to him doing what he wants to do here,

891
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: and that's always encouraging when you see that. So, you know,

892
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: he talked about Eric Kendricks sort of echoed what he

893
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: had already mentioned I think in the presser about why

894
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: they same with Tom, about why they went and got

895
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: him and replaced Drew with him. So you know, you

896
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: kind of have those comments about how you get the

897
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: sense that, yeah, he's gonna be probably gonna, i think,

898
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: take the green dot. If he's able to get everything

899
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: squared away through training camp and is comfortable with the defense,

900
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 1: it sounds like they want him to be that guy

901
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: on defense just because that allows Drwin to cut loose

902
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think for people asking well, why

903
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: isn't Derwin that guy, I think it's because Derwin can

904
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 1: do so many different things, and there's so many different

905
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: ways you can deploy him, and he may see something

906
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: just the way he operates what I think, Yeah, it

907
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: makes more sense to have that on someone else. So

908
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: that's sort of one of the things I took away

909
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: as well. I'm trying to think if there was anything else.

910
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: There were some short answers in there. Felt like there

911
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I don't want to talk about Herbert,

912
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: not gonna talk about his contract now, I gonna talk

913
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: about Austin. There was a lot of that in there

914
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: as well.

915
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: Final thing hopefully see a lot of you guys. Next Thursday,

916
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: Money you're you and Adrian are hosting this thing. It's

917
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: gonna be Listen, the charges don't select till twenty one.

918
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: That means it's more long already, from one to twenty, right,

919
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: it's gonna be.

920
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: A long night. Yeah, Petros and I are gonna do

921
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: the radio show there from three to five, and then

922
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: we'll start the party. Adrian and I'll start the party

923
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: at five when the draft gets underway and the Panthers

924
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: are on the clock, and it sounds like there's gonna

925
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: be quite a few people out there that are going

926
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: to be made available to us, so have an opportunity,

927
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: hopefully to hear from Drwin, to hear from Justin, to

928
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 1: hear from a handful of other players, and certainly Charger

929
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: legends gonna be out there. They do that every year

930
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: as well, So we have a lot of fun. And look,

931
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: the West Side tends to get neglected because it can

932
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: be a bit of a pain to navigate. However, when

933
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: you're stuck there, I shouldn't say stuck, but when you

934
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: know you're going to camp out there from five until

935
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: about you know, eight nine o'clock, maybe what the Heck,

936
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: come on over and hang out. Seems like it's gonna

937
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: be a nice backdrop the atrium there at the Culver

938
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: City Culver City, No, Century City, Westfield, Sentry City. Yeah.

939
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Charges have done a great job with the draftman.

940
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 2: Like I was in Vegas last year, it got to

941
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 2: interview Zion, but you you were hosting that draft party

942
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: at so Far, which was incredible.

943
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: It looked incredible.

944
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: I remember being at the pier with you in Santa Monica.

945
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 2: That scene was crazy.

946
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: I remember it was you.

947
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: They picked Tillery, so it was like twenty nine overall

948
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 2: twenty eight, Yeah, twenty eight, So I mean we were

949
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 2: waiting all night, but it didn't matter. Like guys were

950
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: coming on stage and and getting the crowd hyped up.

951
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun. So I expect no

952
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 2: different on.

953
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: Thursday, no doubt.

954
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 2: No.

955
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: And look, there's still a ton of teams. You've got

956
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: the Raiders that are picking at seven, I think, so

957
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: that's gonna be of interest. You've got a lot of

958
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: AFC teams up there, the Texans, the Colts, all those

959
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: teams that we're going to be paying attention to. They're

960
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: going to be drafting quarterbacks perhaps so there's still a

961
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: lot of excitement over what's going on as opposed to

962
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: just waiting for number twelve for sure, because it's all

963
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: gonna affect with the Chargers to hundred percent.

964
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 2: You know, all right, can't wait for it, buddy, Always

965
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 2: appreciate your brother. We will see you guys next week,

966
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: hopefully a century city for money of Chris. This has

967
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: been charges weekly.

968
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Speaker 1: All right, guys.

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