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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Happy Hour listeners. I'm back to Koufern and

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Speaker 1: I'm Michelle Young, and we are so excited to be

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Speaker 1: back with you this week to talk about all things

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Speaker 1: hometowns on this week's episode of The Bachelrette and obviously

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Speaker 1: the ongoing journeys of our girls, Gabby and Rachel. And seriously,

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Speaker 1: though I cannot believe that we are already at hometowns.

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Speaker 1: It always comes so fast here at the Bachelorette. But

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be back with you, Becca, because

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Speaker 1: there's so much that went down during this last night's episode,

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Speaker 1: and I'm truly truly excited to have Jesse Palmer on.

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Speaker 1: Finally he's gonna be joining us and we get to

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Speaker 1: pick his brain about how the girls were doing before

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Speaker 1: and after their hometown dates, but also with just everything

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Speaker 1: that we've seen this season. Yes, Jesse is somebody that

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Speaker 1: we had on during Clayton's season. I was gonna say

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Speaker 1: last year, but it was just earlier this year, and

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Speaker 1: he just had such good insight. It was fun to

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Speaker 1: kind of meet him get to know him at that

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Speaker 1: point because he was so free hosting the Bacher. But

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Speaker 1: he has like a whole new take, especially with this

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Speaker 1: season with two women, So I can't wait to have

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Speaker 1: him on, pick his brain, get some more fun behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes that we necessarily haven't heard about or seem

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Speaker 1: quite yet. But before we bring him on, let's have

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Speaker 1: a little catch up. I missed you earlier. Well, I

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Speaker 1: missed you last week because you were a little under

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Speaker 1: the weather. So how are you feeling. I was so,

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Speaker 1: I was so sick. It's not good. Oh I did

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Speaker 1: not feel well whatsoever. But I'm finally back on my feet.

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Speaker 1: Energy is back to so we're solid. Well, you're looking good,

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Speaker 1: and before we started recording, you mentioned that you not

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Speaker 1: only had a photo shoot this morning, but you are

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Speaker 1: actually running to have a little speaking up after this.

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Speaker 1: Is that something you want to share with us or

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Speaker 1: that you can share I guess yeah. It's just basketball

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota is a huge thing, especially like girls basketball,

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Speaker 1: and just kind of have a lot of different connections

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Speaker 1: that did so much for me growing up with looking

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Speaker 1: up to older role models, whether it was the high

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Speaker 1: school athletes, whether it was college athletes were coming back

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Speaker 1: and so I'll be able to kind of connect with

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Speaker 1: the youth girls today. So I'm really excited about that.

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Speaker 1: I am, but that's even more exciting. Becca. I have

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Speaker 1: seen you recently and I do believe we need to

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Speaker 1: talk about one thing that you've been so so excited

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Speaker 1: or just like pushing for, and the keyword is Chipotle.

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Speaker 1: I knew where you were going with this, but I

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Speaker 1: finally officially got vi Chapotle hard, and I kid you not.

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Speaker 1: I not only sobbed ugly tears when I opened up

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Speaker 1: but Thomas and I have been there every single day

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Speaker 1: for the past five or six days now, and we

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Speaker 1: looked at each other last night and I was like,

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Speaker 1: do you think we'll ever get sick of these burritos

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Speaker 1: and I was like, I hope that never happens because

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Speaker 1: this has been incredible, especially with not having an operating kitchen.

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Speaker 1: It has been a godsend. So shout out one more

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Speaker 1: time to Chipotle. Thinking for the card, so gold card Chipotle,

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Speaker 1: But like, how is how is that remodeling going? How

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Speaker 1: is that? How are your spirits? Because I know that

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Speaker 1: you've been kind of stressed with everything going on, a

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Speaker 1: little stress. I have been a major basketcase. So I

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Speaker 1: have started calling our new house the Mistress because Thomas

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Speaker 1: so that is what we have named the house. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's fine. It's like it's annoying, but at this point,

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Speaker 1: We today have closets that are being installed, but it's

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Speaker 1: just a slow process. So we still have like two

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Speaker 1: months to go. And I mean, if anyone has followed

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Speaker 1: along on Instagram, we moved all of my stuff from

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Speaker 1: to be for a while, Michelle, do you want to

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Speaker 1: share the news that we were supposed to share a

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Speaker 1: see it now. No, I'm just I'm excited. It's it's

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Speaker 1: going to be really different to take a year off

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Speaker 1: of you who don't know, I've decided to step outside

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Speaker 1: that I would have made whether I had the Bachelor

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Speaker 1: little more time in la I don't know if Thomas

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Speaker 1: over all the time. He's so ready modeling, so he

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Speaker 1: wouldn't even notice, you know, he's with the mistress. Hang

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Speaker 1: out with me, mistress the heck. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: so much fun. And the fact that you will be

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Speaker 1: much closer that we can record this podcast in person

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Speaker 1: And speaking of recording podcasts, we do have a full

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Speaker 1: episode to get into and obviously it came fast. Hometowns.

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Speaker 1: I feel like just shot on up in this season

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Speaker 1: and it's something we have I mean, we keep saying

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Speaker 1: this entire season is something we've never seen before. We

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Speaker 1: have never had this many hometowns. What were your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on that. Well, I remember hometowns and just how quick

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Speaker 1: they came up, and you're like, we're doing what it's

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Speaker 1: time to meet families. It really does truly come so

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Speaker 1: so fast. But the fact that we have two bast bachelorettes,

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Speaker 1: we have so many hometowns to watch, and I would say,

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Speaker 1: like this episode, every episode's important, or I guess like

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Speaker 1: every week is important with connecting, but like this, this

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Speaker 1: episode or this moment where you're meeting their families is

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Speaker 1: it really does shed a lot of light on things.

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Speaker 1: So there's gonna be a lot of light shed. I

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Speaker 1: feel like I have to be completely honest about this episode.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a little bit boring. Really, yes,

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Speaker 1: just because there were so many hometowns. Boring, Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: I want okay, boring really okay, So I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you a question, though, was it boring because there

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Speaker 1: much more like real raw emotion, so boring. Really, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there wasn't much excitement besides with Tino's family and and

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Speaker 1: but it like wasn't as captivating to me because it

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Speaker 1: and and my whole thing is like like I kind

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Speaker 1: of like to get to know more of the families, right,

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Speaker 1: it was kind of done right, Like we didn't get

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Speaker 1: like besides Tino's hometown, it was so straightforward every hometown

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Speaker 1: and besides Tyler being sent home early, everything went swimmingly

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Speaker 1: But what about Tyler. Has that happened before? Like, has

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I'm sure it has. I

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Speaker 1: like even as a lead, you're still processing. It's like

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Speaker 1: like Tyler is still processing, right. But also keep in mind,

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Speaker 1: you're like in your own little quarantine bubble and then

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Speaker 1: ten days Becca, yeah, well yeah, ten days. And for

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Speaker 1: He's already with this family, so easy. Okay, that's a

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Speaker 1: good point, best case scenario for him, I would say, Okay, So, Michelle,

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Speaker 1: there's two other hometowns that I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: quickly before we bring Chessie on, which is Eric, because

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Speaker 1: because we don't always see a lead doing that, especially

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Speaker 1: at hometown. Is that early on? Right? I completely agree

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Speaker 1: We are so excited to chat with you today. How

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Speaker 1: And yes, yes, yes, Jesse, you go third time, third

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Speaker 1: dessert up to them during their dinner. I have stayed

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00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: in touch with Clayton, and it's funny, you know, I

430
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: didn't know Clayton before we started shooting the show. I

431
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: had randomly broadcast one of his college football games in

432
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 1: the past, so I kind of knew who he was,

433
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 1: but I'd never met him until he got out of

434
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: the limo that first night at the mansion. I think

435
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: what really made this experience much different for me the

436
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 1: second time around with Gabby and Rachel was the fact

437
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: that there was a familiarity there, knowing them both based

438
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: on Clayton's season and also kind of being there and

439
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: seeing some of what they struggled through in a heartbreak

440
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: at the end in Iceland, and so you really wanting

441
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: this to work out for them, but having that personal

442
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: relationship with them coming into their own journeys I think

443
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 1: made this experience feel a little bit different from me

444
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: as thought, much more personal for sure. I want to

445
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 1: ask you really quick before we go into Rachel and

446
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: Gabby season. I did just see that there was news

447
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 1: released with Clayton and Suze that they're actually living I

448
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 1: think in separate cities. Now. Is that something that he

449
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 1: had mentioned you? Were you able to talk to him

450
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: about that. I know they've been talking a little bit

451
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: about moving and where they were going to be. I

452
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 1: think one and the other or both at some point,

453
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 1: I think want to get back out to the West Coast.

454
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: So I know that's something that they've been talking about

455
00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: a little bit. They seem like they're on this same

456
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: page about it, though, But just I mean, anytime like

457
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: there's any type of movement like this, it's like everyone's

458
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: like they're breaking up. They're not as strong. But I

459
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: remember reading somebody made a really good point of the

460
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: fact that they're so confident in following each other's dreams,

461
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: but still being a part of each other's lives. And

462
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 1: you know, they are, like they look like they're very,

463
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 1: very happy, and so a relationship would have to be

464
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: a certain level of strength to go into that with confidence. Yeah,

465
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: very long distance. I think it's a good point, you know,

466
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, Clayton moving out to Virginia

467
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: to be with her and really kind of have that time.

468
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: I think he really sort of committed himself to the

469
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: relationship to kind of help. I think he was really

470
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 1: they were both trying to build a foundation and really

471
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 1: kind of get that established. Because even even when you're

472
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: on the show together and you have those moments and

473
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: you have those one on one group dates and fantasy sweets,

474
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: et cetera. Whatever, you know, you still need that time

475
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: away from the campus to try and build and establish that.

476
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 1: I think one thing I really respect about Clayton and Susie,

477
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: I think they really support each other and their their

478
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 1: their passions and what they want to do with respect

479
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: of their individual careers now that the show is over,

480
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: and whether that means moving back to the West Coast

481
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: for one or for both at this time, you know,

482
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: I think they're going to keep supporting each other, whether

483
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: or not they live in the same place or whether

484
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: they don't. But I know that they're they seem they're

485
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: both they seem to be doing great. Well said Yeah,

486
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: I mean I love following everyone along, like just being

487
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: part of this podcast. But they are a couple that

488
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: it did not end, you know, in the standard typical

489
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: batch or fashion, and I think it threw a lot

490
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: of people for a loop. But I'm sure you because

491
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: this is especially for you, this is your first time hosting,

492
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: but um, it's got to be fun to kind of

493
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: see it out come full circle and you know, the

494
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 1: show in a roundabout way, so brought them together and

495
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: fall in love, which is important. Um, speaking of something

496
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: that's not typical, obviously, having two batch shreds, it's something

497
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 1: we've for an entire season, is something that we've never

498
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: I've seen before, and there were people out there with

499
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: their opinions on it, and a lot of people were

500
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: actually initially very critical of the season having two of them.

501
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: But now that we've seen how it works and truthfully,

502
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: like Michell and I love it, what do you have

503
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 1: to say to those people who had their doubts about it? Well,

504
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: I think a lot of us sort of had doubts

505
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: and unanswered questions because I don't think we really understood

506
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 1: what was going to happen, how the format was going

507
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: to play out. The one thing I think we all

508
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: know having been on the show is that it seems

509
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: pretty formulaic every season, Bachelor, Bachelorette, Paradise, whatever it is.

510
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: There's this rhythm and a cadence and a flow to

511
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: every show that I think as viewers we all sort

512
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 1: of get accustomed to. I think having two bachelorettes for

513
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: the entire course of the season. Obviously, through that all

514
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: into whack and just simple things how many men are

515
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: going to be on the show, who gets to date who?

516
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: How are rose ceremony is going to work? How are

517
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: hometown is going to work? There was just so many

518
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: things we didn't understand, and obviously Gabby and Rachel sort

519
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: of took the reins and called their own, calling their

520
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 1: own shots along the way, and I think from a

521
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: production standpoint in the show, everybody's just sort of riding

522
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: the lightning a little bit. I respect Gabby and Rachel

523
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: so much because they've had so many different things thrown

524
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: at them, things they could have never prepared for and

525
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: I just feel like they've handled everything with so much

526
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: grace and so much class and strength, and their support

527
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: for one another, I think is something that's really shown through.

528
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: So I guess what I would is a long winded answer.

529
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: What I would tell people is that it definitely has

530
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: gone off script. I think we sort of knew that

531
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: would happen in the beginning. The hope is that both

532
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: Gabby and Rachel can find their person at the end

533
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: of all this, and at this point right now, where

534
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: we are in the journey, that's still very much in play.

535
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: So you know, we'll have to see how this whole

536
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: thing plays out. It's it's certainly not over yet and

537
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot of twist and turns

538
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: coming out. But but it has been new, it's been fresh,

539
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: and I know this. Gabby and Rachel are both unbelievably

540
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 1: deserving of this opportunity. I'm looking back on it now.

541
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: Had one got it not the other, for me personally,

542
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: I would have I would have felt bad for the

543
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: person who missed the chance. I know that. It just

544
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: I think that what I love the most about this though,

545
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: is that, like when you when we all heard about it.

546
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: I wasn't so much worried about Gabby and Rachel, and

547
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: like I had faith in them with how they would

548
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: handle situations. I'm happy that they were allowed to speak

549
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,479
Speaker 1: with each other. I'm happy that they were allowed to

550
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: reflect with each other. And like Beck and I, Beck

551
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: and I have spoken about like do we really have

552
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: fomo of like we did a season by ourselves and

553
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: we now are wishing that we could do a season

554
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: with somebody else because but because it is like you

555
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: you are able to like talk to that other person

556
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: and truly, you know, reflect in a way with someone

557
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: who's going through it right then and there. So like

558
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: that piece is really nice, and that's I love is

559
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: that they have allowed it to go off script, like

560
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: they have allowed it to be It's like genuine and

561
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: authentic piece, you know through Gabby and Rachel, and like

562
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,239
Speaker 1: they're handling it beautifully. Yeah, I agree. I think it's

563
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: a good point you make. It's like you're speaking to

564
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: somebody who's living it in the same time as you

565
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: and as maybe having similar experiences or feeling different emotions.

566
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: I think what's been interesting about Gabby and Rachel's journey

567
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: is we weren't sure if they were both going to

568
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: kind of follow the same way, or if one was

569
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: going to have an up day update one was going

570
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: to have a down date. And it seems like at

571
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: times both Gabby and Rachel have sort of fluctuated that way.

572
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: So it's so great to have each other to help

573
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: bring each other to the same level. That's that's kind

574
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: of what what I keep thinking. And it's funny, you know,

575
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: when you're the Bachelorette as you both were, or the Bachelor.

576
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: I think one of the most shocking things about all

577
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: of this is that when you watch it back when

578
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: it's airing on TV, you realize so many things happen

579
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: you never you never were aware of, you never And

580
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: I feel the same way as a host too, even

581
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: though you know you're there, you're present and you're watching everything,

582
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: and whether you're there on set or you're standing with

583
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: the bachelorettes or you're watching back with the producers on

584
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: nineteen different TV screens, I still feel when I'm watching

585
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: this back now, like, oh my gosh, there's so many

586
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: things that I missed or or things that I wasn't

587
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: aware of. It I didn't see, And so for Gaby

588
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: and Rachel to have to kind of try and contain

589
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 1: all of that as best they can together has just

590
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: been so impressive. It's so impressive to me. I really

591
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: cannot say enough about both from yeah, like it could

592
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: go so wrong and the season could have gone like

593
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: so wrong, and it still can don't say that right now.

594
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: As of right now, I think it's exceeding at least

595
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: for me, it's exceeding exceeding my expectations. And it's just

596
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: seeing those two together in those moments is just so

597
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: fun and I can only imagine what it was like

598
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: for you in person. And one thing that Michelle and

599
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: I have talked about quite a bit on the podcast is,

600
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: you know, we're all about being even inequality, and I'm like, look,

601
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: if they're gonna have two women be the leads together,

602
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: I would like to see two bachelors do a season together.

603
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: Do you think? I mean? And not, I think nothing's

604
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: going to match what Rachel and Gabby brought us, you know,

605
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 1: like they're their own people. But do you think it

606
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: could work with two bachelor leads in a season? I

607
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: think so. And I think this show is always trying

608
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: to find ways to sort of reinvent itself or again

609
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: give Bachelor Nation something new and something unique and something

610
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: to talk about. And I think part of it too,

611
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: it's a bit of it's an experiment. I think certainly

612
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: that was the case with having two bachelords. So yeah,

613
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: and I absolutely think we could see two bachelors down

614
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: down the road. And when you start thinking about it,

615
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: it's interesting because I have thought about it, and I'm like,

616
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 1: would you get two bachelors from totally different areas? How

617
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: would you care? Would it be like the dynamic duo

618
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: as we've seen, like an Aaron and James, or like,

619
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:10,239
Speaker 1: oh no, don't what would be two? Oh? So your

620
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: two picks? I mean, I'm partial to Greg and andrew

621
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: S from Katie's season as a dynamic duo, or like

622
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: I'm a big Mike Johnson fan, so maybe you could

623
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: do like a I don't know, like a Mike Johnson

624
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: and then maybe someone from like a newer season. I think,

625
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's kind of what I think, because

626
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: obviously Rachel and Gabby are so close that I don't

627
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: think you're gonna be able to find unless you did

628
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: like a Greg and andrew S, which I know thoughts about, like,

629
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it could be that same dynamic that

630
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: it would be fun pulling somebody from the past that

631
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: has been out of the season for a little bit,

632
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: that you know, has had time to reflect in their

633
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: own personal life of what they would want, and then

634
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: somebody from a newer season and put them together and

635
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: like have them kind of get to know each other

636
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: and see how that goes. I think it would be

637
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: very entertaining. I think we should see it. We're gonna

638
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: have two girls, let's let's put the guys in there,

639
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: and even if it's not a successful season, then hey,

640
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: you know, I'm all for it. Oh man, Oh well,

641
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: one thing too, I wanted to say, and this is

642
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: something I mean, so Michelle and I were at mental all.

643
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: Obviously that hasn't aired yet. But one thing going back

644
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: to Gabby and Rachel and how fun they are, is

645
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: like the bloopers of them together are I think, like

646
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: my favorite blooper real I've ever seen on the show. Like,

647
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: those two together are hilarious. It's just comedy all the time.

648
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: I don't know how you got anything done. I don't

649
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: know how this season was finished with the two of them,

650
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: to be quite honest, no wonder you had to split

651
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: them up. You can't stop them. That's all you could do. Okay,

652
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: so you did, like you saw these bloopers, you just

653
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 1: saw you were around their vibes, their friendship. How much

654
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: fun it was. Is there something that you can tell

655
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: us about Gabby and Rachel that the viewers may not

656
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: know just from watching them on the screen. Uh, that's

657
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: that's a great question. You know, I think maybe people

658
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: I think people think Gabby is just goofy all the time,

659
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: all the time. You know. The thing about Rachel and

660
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: Gabby that they're two completely They're they're their own people.

661
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: They're they're different people, but they get along so so well.

662
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: I would say, while both both are unbelievably emotionally mature,

663
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: um and Uh. I think my time with them off camera,

664
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: while it's still it's still a lot of jokes and

665
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: still a lot of lash, they're they're incredibly deep, but

666
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: they're they're both insanely deep, um witty obviously, but you

667
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: could have incredible conversation with both, Like it's not just

668
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: like armpits and champagne and and and jokes all the time.

669
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: It's like what really, it's it's incredibly impressive being around

670
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: I think both women um that can really just sort

671
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: of lock in and have these these deep conversations about

672
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: about a lot of different things. That's what I would say. Yeah,

673
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 1: what are some of your from this season specifically, what

674
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: are some of your most memorable moments that it's like

675
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: that stands out You will never forget what happened at

676
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: a certain point, oh you know, well obviously, Yeah, I

677
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: think you always remember the arrivals at the mansion, them

678
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: two coming out together, and just the excitement getting ready

679
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: to go on their journeys. The group date, It's so

680
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: Fi stadium for me as a former football player, but

681
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: that was the biggest group date, group date and bachelorette history.

682
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: It was just like hella dudes everywhere running around like

683
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: the most beautiful football stadium. Obviously, the rose ceremony where

684
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: Rachel had three was rejected unfortunately, is one that I

685
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: don't think I or a lot of Bachelor Nation will

686
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: ever forget. I think being in Paris and seeing Gaby

687
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: and Rachel in that beautiful city on two incredible one

688
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: on one dates was amazing. So the mentel all for

689
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: me was was amazing for a lot of reasons. Did

690
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: you Okay? So I know exactly what you think. I'm like, Oh,

691
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I can't wait. Viewer listeners are gonna

692
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: have to wait for that one. Though. Was there at

693
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: any point this season a moment were you were you

694
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: were like, what the hell do I do? How do

695
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: I approach this? How do I handle this? Like, because

696
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: I feel like if I was in your position, that

697
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: would be me constantly, But like, is there one moment

698
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: where you were like, I don't know what to do here? Folks? Oh?

699
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: Oh god? Um uh. Yeah. It was the rose ceremony

700
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: with um with Rachel, when when three men rejected or rose,

701
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 1: and that was something that, no, I don't think anybody

702
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: expected to happen. Certainly Rachel wasn't expecting it, but I

703
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: think all of us, I think everybody, most guys in

704
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: the room, I think the producers. From everybody's standpoint, I

705
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: think we sort of felt like we had kind of

706
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: had a plan, We sort of knew where everybody was

707
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: going to be going with it. We thought we knew

708
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: where everybody was going to be going with the roses

709
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: and and sort of how the numbers were going to

710
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: play out. And I mean, when I think about it now,

711
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: even now, I just remember just feeling heartbroken for Rachel.

712
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: I just was watching her and I could just see

713
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: her going through the spectrum of emotion. I think she

714
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: was she was shocked, she was confused. I think she

715
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: was embarrassed. So I think in that moment where you know,

716
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: where we've all been in roast ceremonies, we've all been

717
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: the ones handing out the roses, and then even to

718
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: be a host in that situation where I mean there's

719
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 1: a there's an order, there's there's a structure that got

720
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: thrown out of whack completely, And that definitely was like

721
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: an oh crap momentum, and not because of what I

722
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: had to do or how I was going to have

723
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: to try to like help facilitate it, solely because my

724
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: heart was breaking for Rachel. It was it was awful.

725
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: How long did that night take? Because we all know

726
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: how long ceremony evenings go, like they're well into the

727
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: next morning, and I can only imagine you think it's

728
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: going to go pretty quick because you know you have

729
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: less guys at this point, but with that switcher ru

730
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: it had to have probably taken so much extra time

731
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: it did. It did, and then you know Rachel needed

732
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: time Yeah, she needed time to walk away and try

733
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: to wrap her mind around exactly all the craziness that

734
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: had just happened. And thank god, you know, Gabby was

735
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: there and she could speak with her, and you know,

736
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: they had each other to kind of try to walk

737
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: each other through it. And it took a lot of

738
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: It took a lot of guts, It took a lot

739
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: of confidence. It made for Rachel to scoop herself up

740
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: off the ground and walk back out there and offer

741
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: up another rows and then have to and then have

742
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: to do it again and again. I mean it was

743
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: it was she was so brave to do what she did.

744
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: Um and it did take a while and she needed

745
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 1: that time. And I'm glad she she had it, because

746
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: you know, at that point, you know, a lot of

747
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: us were sitting back watching it and we're like, dude,

748
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: she could call it right now, right, she's liable to

749
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: just Yeah, I mean, no one knew, no one knew

750
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: what was going to happen. It was no one knew.

751
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: It was frustrating and heartbreaking. Yeah, just because it's like

752
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: you're in like you went through that, right, Like she

753
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: went through that heartbreak on Clayton's season as a contestant.

754
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: Not everybody can make it to the end. Like you

755
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 1: go through that heartbreak and then like now you're like, yeah,

756
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm in the driver's seat, and it's like this like

757
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: constant rejection that you're still experiencing. It's like you're not

758
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: It's like it's my turn, It's my turn. I mean,

759
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: all Rachel wanted was just to feel desired, right, which

760
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: I think I think most people in that situation would want.

761
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 1: I don't think that's asking too much. And she just

762
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: had these constant rejections that were piling up on each other. Um,

763
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: you know, when her and I had our talk on

764
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: the ship, she'd mentioned she said, I just feel like

765
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: I'm getting a run of bad cards. I can't I

766
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: can't break through. I'm way waiting for this to get

767
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: better and it's not. And like I get goosebumps thinking

768
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 1: about it because it's like it you know, I felt

769
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: that Ford too, and I was just I was just

770
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: wanting something good to go, you know, good to happen

771
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: to her, and I wanted this, you know, for her

772
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: to be able to write the ship, and she was

773
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: just going through a really, really really rough rough patch.

774
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: She was, well, that's a good part for me to

775
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: ask this then, because once you were on the ship

776
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: and Gabby had her group of men, Rachel had her

777
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: group of men, Logan was the one and only guy

778
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: really too, I don't want to jump ship, no pun intended,

779
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: but like he came and had a conversation about you know,

780
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: I I'm still feeling these emotions for Gabby. I want

781
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 1: to see where that could go. So what was your

782
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: first thought when Logan basically said he wanted to break

783
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: up with Rachel and move over to pursue Gabby. And

784
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: also in that moment too, was there a part of

785
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,959
Speaker 1: you that, like for saw how it would potentially work

786
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: out for Logan. Did you think he should follow his

787
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: heart or do you think he should have maybe just

788
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: left right then and there and just you know, at

789
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: that point, given the timing, just removed himself. Yeah, great questions.

790
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: My first reaction was what are you doing? Like were

791
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: you not present at the last Row ceremony? You knew that,

792
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: you knew how this was structured. Right, If you accept

793
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: a rose, then you're you're expected to commit into that

794
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: relationship and to follow that journey and its entirety. Talking

795
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: with Logan, though at first I thought he was just

796
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: kind of wishy washy, But the more we talked and

797
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: I could see the emotion, he did seem like he

798
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: really was conflicted and he had these feelings for Gabby,

799
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: and he was just he wanted to be truthful to himself.

800
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: I think he always was very aware that his decision

801
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: was going to be an unpopular one, and he was

802
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: aware that there were going to be consequences for it.

803
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: I don't think he fully grasped though, how that was

804
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: going to send shock waves and ripples through through the rest,

805
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: How that wasn't just affecting him and Rachel. I was

806
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: going to infect the guys that were dating Rachel, and

807
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: it was going to affect the guys that were dating

808
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: Gabby because he had been intimate with Gabby earlier on

809
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 1: in the journey at the first group at the first

810
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: group date back at the Ladies Mansion. Um, I know

811
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: that I knew Gabby was interested in him at one point,

812
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: and so I wasn't sure that Gabby was just going

813
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: to totally close the door on Logan once he had

814
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 1: that conversation. But I also wasn't sure how how Rachel

815
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: was going to, you know, or Gabby was going to

816
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: take the news once the ladies had had a conversation together,

817
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: right right, So, I mean I thought that was pretty

818
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: telling about their friendship when when Rachel was just like, look,

819
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: if you like them or you think there might be

820
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: something there, I don't want to shut I don't want

821
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: to close the doors to that. I want to give

822
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: you that opportunity. I don't want to I don't want

823
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: to sit here and tell you to send him home

824
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: because he's now just broken up with me. Um. I

825
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: think for her to give Gabby that space, I thought

826
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: it was amazing one for her and very strong of her.

827
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: And I didn't, you know, and I wasn't sure that

828
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: Gaby was just going to send Logan packing either. So

829
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: you know, he he took a huge risk. It was

830
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: obviously very very unpopular, and he's there's been he's been

831
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: criticized a lot for it, I think in a lot

832
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: of ways, rightfully so, and so that's that's that's kind

833
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: of where that ended. Yeah, do you feel like Logan

834
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: had the emotional insight of where he was leaning well

835
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: before he made the decision that he did, or do

836
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: you feel like he that's like what the first time

837
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: where he like truly knew what he was supposed to do,

838
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: because there's all this you know, controversy of he had

839
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: this and it's unpopular and these are maybe naps of

840
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: emotions when you have two different bachelorettes, but like you know,

841
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: so many people have said that, Okay, well you played

842
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: your cards or you were very strategic so that you

843
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 1: made it as far as possible, right, and then you realize,

844
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: you know, once you got to this point, that you

845
00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: can't get there with one person, and you you know,

846
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 1: your feelings are somewhere else. I think he was conflicted personally,

847
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: of course. The only person that really really knows that

848
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: deep down inside his logan. M Logan was one of

849
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: the few, if not the only, guy I think that

850
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: that had had gotten time with both Gabby and Rachel.

851
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: He had kissed both Gabby and Rachel. He was the

852
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: only one sort of down kind of that it had

853
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: that sort of perspective. And I don't think at that

854
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: row ceremony he felt like he was one one way

855
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: or the other. And I think after accepting the rows

856
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: from Rachel, I think he realized I think he was

857
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: willing to pursue Rachel. I think he realized that he

858
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: still had feelings for Gabby, and you know, there were

859
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: moments I know that Logan wanted to he wanted to

860
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 1: talk to Rachel and wanted to have some of those

861
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: discussions about how he was feeling. I know one of

862
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: those moments was on the ship at a cocktail party.

863
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: That's when all the Hayden drama had happened. It got

864
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 1: the cocktail party cut short and canceled. Ken of Logan

865
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: missed out in an opportunity accept that another rose that night,

866
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: and then sort of kind of kept the thing bleeding

867
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 1: and going on. So yeah, I think he was like personally,

868
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: I think Logan was that he was conflicted, I think,

869
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: but of course the only person that really knows deep

870
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: down is Logan, right, So taking it back, I guess

871
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 1: like not even night one in particular, but usually that

872
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: first night as you are starting to meet the men,

873
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: I feel like the team with the leads kind of

874
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: has a good idea of like who would be a

875
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: good fit for the lead? Right, and Michelle. I don't

876
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: know if you did this on your season, but you know,

877
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,479
Speaker 1: like Carrie Fetman and Silas will always be like, Okay,

878
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: who are your top three or four guys? After meeting

879
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: meeting everyone. And so my question is, did Gabby and

880
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: Rachel do that with you early on in this journey

881
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,959
Speaker 1: and did it seem like y'all had a good sense

882
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: of maybe a couple men who knew would stick around,

883
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: who would make it very far and just be a

884
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: great fit for those two. Um, we didn't really have that.

885
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: I mean I sort of knew based on first impression Roses. Obviously,

886
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: Rachel and Tino had this, had this really strong connection.

887
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: I think for her that was a guy right away

888
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: that established himself early in her mind. I think for Gabby,

889
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: you know, she was a little bit more, a little

890
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: bit more open. They were both open minded. Obviously. I

891
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: remember a comment where Gabby had said, like Eric was

892
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: the kind of guy that that she she's sort of

893
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: he was the type of guy that she has dated

894
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: a lot in the past. Yes, and so we weren't

895
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: really sure. You know, he had the mullet. You know,

896
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 1: they they had a great first day at the mansion

897
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: on the first night as well. Um, and I know

898
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: she was really excited about Mario too, who she had

899
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: handed out her first impression rose too. So you know,

900
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't like we had it like drafted like it'll

901
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: be boom boom boom both sides. I think they were

902
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: both really giving it and honest and open um opportunity

903
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: and would made it more difficult that they didn't even

904
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: really speak to a lot of the men that first night.

905
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: There's just so many dudes, and which is I think

906
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: a big the big part of why they called that

907
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: first row ceremony. Michelle, why are you laughing? I'm laughing

908
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: so hard right now because I because Jesse, I I

909
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: was listening from this, but I got stuck what you said, Mario,

910
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: So I need to ask you this, Jesse. What was it?

911
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: What were your thoughts first night seeing Mario and Gabby

912
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: kissed the first I like said the kissing police. And

913
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 1: I'm not pretending like I'm like, you know, uh don't

914
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: want to Marco when it comes to kissing. I was

915
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: all I would say, was there there they lacked, They

916
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: lacked commitment and conviction. It was kind of like, yeah,

917
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 1: the chemistry was missing. Chemistry. Yeah, it was just like

918
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: you know, and I think I think Mario was you know,

919
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 1: it was the first guess, you know, he just just

920
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: talked to Gabby. He was nerds. They were also positioned

921
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 1: very awkwardly on the couch. So it was it wasn't

922
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 1: it wasn't easy, but yeah, it was. It was memorable.

923
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: Any other really awkward, funny moments that we didn't necessarily

924
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: get to see during the season so far that like

925
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,919
Speaker 1: also stick out in your mind. There was a lot

926
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: that went down in the talent competition, do you remember that. Yeah,

927
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: there were the guys and that first thing. Yeah, there

928
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: was a lot going on sort of behind the scenes.

929
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: There there was dudes falling down, There's things that got broken. Um,

930
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's like every year, there's always like the

931
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: there's like warrior bees lost that are always attacking you

932
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: and like during shoots, um, trying to think of what else?

933
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: What else I saw? Yeah, I mean that's that's probably

934
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: what stands out the most. I think I think it

935
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: was that talent kind of thank god, because there was

936
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: a lot of things that that we didn't need to

937
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: see outside of a person taking like a whole jar

938
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: Marinara sauce and dumping it on himself, which isn't the

939
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: last time that we will see that or smell it.

940
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: That's the thing. As gross as it looks, the smell

941
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: of it is so bad, is it? I love tomato sauce.

942
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: I think it sells great when you're like watching it

943
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 1: in between someone's toes. Okay, yeah, you like no, it's

944
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 1: like a no go. Like. It reminds me of when

945
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: I bring my kids down to the cafeteria and you

946
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: have a bunch of like elementary students in the lunch

947
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: room and it's pizza whatever, pizza, spaghetti. They have it

948
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: all over their face. They're like gnawing on it, don't

949
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: even know how half of it doesn't go in their mouth,

950
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: and they all smell like Marinara sauce. That's that's how

951
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: it is, Michelle. You can leave the classroom, but the

952
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: classroom won't leave you, Okay, Jesse. I want there is

953
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: one thing but I have been dying to ask you

954
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: about ever since the season started, and it's not something

955
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: we've ever seen or heard before. And it has to

956
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: do with your new casting calls because in the past

957
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: they were always very straightforward. If you are someone you

958
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: know are looking for love, apply to be on The Bachelor.

959
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: This year, you've spiced it up. You've thrown in that

960
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: Mariner assassin those casting calls. I want to know, do

961
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: you come up with those on your own. It is

962
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: a collaborative effort. I cannot confirm or deny, but there

963
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: is a collaborative effort happening, and I, for one, have

964
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: absolutely I'm sorry it just makes anybody out there angry.

965
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: I have absolutely loved doing them. I love hearing them.

966
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: If you ever need some creative writing skills too in

967
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: the future, I would love to be brought on to

968
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: write maybe just one if possible, if the position, I

969
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: would love that. Yea, So we would love to have

970
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: I know, because we're gonna keep doing this. I hope

971
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 1: it's a thing that's that's here to stay. I hope

972
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: so so good to switch it up, and then I

973
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: feel like it just also hooks people more like no

974
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: one likes a commercial break, right, but it kind of

975
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: just hooks you to like stay around to hear what

976
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: you're going to say. I find they're golden. I love them.

977
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: I love the change you're dating is your cousin. I

978
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: think it's probably no. My parent is like like everyone

979
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: agreed your X was a loser or like dumb like us,

980
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: was it stupid? I don't know what it was. Yeah,

981
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: And it's not just dump them, it's or break up

982
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: with them. It's dumps. So because of the ABC dot

983
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: Com slash cass, because of these casting calls. Now, have

984
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: you gotten a lot of good applicants we have, Yes, Yes,

985
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: people just need that extra push. I just like know

986
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: somebody that would be great on The Bachelor, Bachelor that

987
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: go to ABC dot com slash casting. I mean that's

988
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 1: not going to get anybody to know. People are flying. Yeah,

989
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: you will set your girlfriends watching the show to get

990
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: great on the show. Prove it right, prove it can

991
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: know this like a viewerly you think there's actually like

992
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: a viewer Summer that's sitting on the cottage. She's like, yeah,

993
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: he's a loser, like goody and goes to like apply,

994
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna prove it now, Bizzas. Yeah, you know, yeah,

995
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: get up your boyfriend live in a van down by

996
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: the river. Don't possess that guy's like I do, live

997
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: in a van down by the river. I'm gonna go

998
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: on the Bachelor and I'm gonna win. Person is like

999
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 1: a shit. Jesse's talking about me right now. People DM

1000
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: the other time on social like screw you, Jesse, we

1001
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: love our friends. You're watching with my cats and that's

1002
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: all I need. My cat is all I need to

1003
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 1: watch the ship. It's so good. Um. Okay, so you

1004
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: have been privy too much more than we will ever

1005
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: know just being viewers of the show. But we want

1006
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: to know, without giving too much away, what can we

1007
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,240
Speaker 1: expect from the rest of the season. Do our girls

1008
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 1: find love? Are they happy? Well? See, I think that's

1009
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: the biggest question, right And we sort of touched on

1010
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: it a little bit earlier. You know, we don't We

1011
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: didn't know how this was going to go. We didn't

1012
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: know how it was going to play out. And I

1013
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: think I wonder, like to Michelle's point earlier, when people

1014
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: were wondering about how this was going to happen, Um,

1015
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: what do you think people's hope was at the end

1016
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: of all this? Two proposals, two engagements for both they

1017
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 1: both find love in the end or were people being

1018
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: realistic and they're like, yeah, you know it's not guaranteed

1019
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: on any season now that it is going to happen.

1020
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 1: So maybe one gets engaged one doesn't. Um, but really,

1021
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 1: at this point, at this point in the journey, right now,

1022
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: everything's on the table, and is it does one get

1023
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: engaged to both get engaged to none get engaged? Do

1024
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: they both make it to the finish line? Oh well,

1025
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,959
Speaker 1: now you leave. I'm saying that's something that nobody talks

1026
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: or thinks about. But you've already seen the hurdles that

1027
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: both these women have had to overcome, particularly Rachel. I

1028
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: feel like she's had multiple and then at what point

1029
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: is an enough? Yeah? Right right? Like they like you,

1030
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: they kind of switch like one is high, one is low.

1031
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that we both end high and like

1032
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: the high is both of them are happy. But that's

1033
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: your relationship happy. Whether that's too walking away independently happy,

1034
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: that's engaged. But if nothing else, they those two together,

1035
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: like they have built this lifelong friendship that I can

1036
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: imagine will they will be in each other's lives forever.

1037
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: It's that has been a beautiful thing to watch, So

1038
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: you know, if nothing else, they have each other. Everybody's

1039
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 1: their asses. Um, oh my gosh, Jesse, it is always

1040
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: so much fun having you. I I can't believe. I

1041
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: feel like we just had you on for Clayton season,

1042
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,439
Speaker 1: but so much has happened since then. It's always fun

1043
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: to pick your brain and see you again. But before

1044
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 1: we have you go. I'm sure you remember we ask

1045
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 1: a rose and thorn from our guests, so basically high

1046
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: like favorite moment and then low lights. So whenever you

1047
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: want to start with, sure, my rose would be I

1048
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 1: think Gabby and Rachel's one on one date in Paris.

1049
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: I know the week before that in la they had

1050
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: both had some some hurdles, Gabby on her big group

1051
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: date after things that Hayden Jacob said her and then

1052
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: of course Rachel at the rose ceremony. Um so to

1053
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: see them in the City of Lights, in such a

1054
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: romantic place and had two amazing one on one dates.

1055
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: Gabby with Jason, Rachel was with Tino. I think for

1056
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: them that was a moment where it was kind of

1057
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: an aha, like Okay, now I'm feeling like the bachelorette,

1058
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: Everything's going well, this is what it's supposed to be.

1059
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: For me, that was awesome. That is my rose moment,

1060
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: my thorn moment. We talked about. It was that rose ceremony,

1061
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: and it was it was my heart was breaking for Rachel.

1062
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: That was extremely, extremely difficult for her, and so that

1063
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Speaker 1: that that, unfortunately is something I'll never forget and I'm

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Speaker 1: just so happy that Rachel was able to move on

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Speaker 1: past that and pick herself up and get back on

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Speaker 1: the horse because she's she's she has a chance, she

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Speaker 1: has a chance now at this point to really find

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Speaker 1: a person and be in love. So I give her

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Speaker 1: a ton of credit for that. Oh well, we can't

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Speaker 1: wait to watch you watch the girls as they finish

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Speaker 1: out this journey. I hate seeing this journey, but that's

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Speaker 1: what it is. And before we let you go, I

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Speaker 1: actually have to give kudos where they are due. Every

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Speaker 1: time we are at a live show or even just

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Speaker 1: talking with the team and the production team, everyone says

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Speaker 1: how just kind and so sweet you are and so

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Speaker 1: and I think that's something that everyone should hear. And

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Speaker 1: I've heard nothing but great things. I know we've met

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Speaker 1: briefly and we've had you on this podcast a couple

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Speaker 1: of times, and I definitely can attest to everything that

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Speaker 1: they're saying, but it's always really great to hear, and

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Speaker 1: so I just wanted to share that with you. So

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Speaker 1: thanks for being so wonderful, truly truly, so down to earth,

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Speaker 1: the right man for this job. Thank you both so much.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on again. Of course, it's such

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Speaker 1: an amazing job. Really, well, no, this means where I

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Speaker 1: know how you both are pros. Well, we know so

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Speaker 1: so good. We know how busy you are. You're at

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Speaker 1: the Food Network right now trying to just keep the

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Speaker 1: electricity going. So all right, well you're still guys, are

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Speaker 1: doing great, Michelle, lamps, get some new lamps, Michelle, and

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Speaker 1: we'll do this again. This is this is going to

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Speaker 1: be great. I feel like they're pretty nine. No, I

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Speaker 1: was actually going to say when you first came mad

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Speaker 1: about your ceiling. Okay, no, not even mine, but you're

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Speaker 1: mad about your ceiling, and you're mad about your lights,

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Speaker 1: and you're mad that you were told not to click

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Speaker 1: your pen. No, somebody give us man his pen. Bass

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Speaker 1: has been so difficult to do this entire thing so great.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Jesse. We'll see you soon. Take care, see ya, Jesse.

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Speaker 1: He's so so wonderful to talk to, so kind. Everything

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Speaker 1: that everyone has said about him, it just speaks volumes

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Speaker 1: to his character. So thank you, Jesse. I know you

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Speaker 1: are crazy busy, but it's always fun to get, especially

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Speaker 1: the host point of view for the real behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes and insights. So thank you Jesse for being here,

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Speaker 1: and thank you Baucher. Happy Hour listeners don't forget everyone that.

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Speaker 1: You can catch all new episodes of The Bauch Shorrette

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Speaker 1: every Monday on ABC or Hulu, and make sure to

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Speaker 1: hit us up on social. You can follow us at

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Speaker 1: Bachelor Happy Hour on Instagram and from there you'll find

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Speaker 1: the Wondering app. Thank you everyone, and we will see

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Speaker 1: you next week. Cheers