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Speaker 1: had two games sevens today. Let's jump into the one
Speaker 1: that just ended. The largest come from behind victory and
Speaker 1: a game seven was eleven points.
Speaker 2: The Timberwolves went on the road and.
Speaker 1: Came from fifteen down by limiting the Nuggets the fourteen
Speaker 1: points in the third quarter, twenty three points in the
Speaker 1: second in the fourth quarter for a grand total of
Speaker 1: thirty seven points. They scored sixty They're outscoring by twenty three.
Speaker 1: They go on the road to Denver and win ninety
Speaker 1: eight ninety to advance to the Western Conference Finals where
Speaker 1: it starts on Tuesday and they play face the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 1: Timberwolves do it. They didn't add Man with six or
Speaker 1: twenty four, only had sixteen points. But that's why you
Speaker 1: have a supporting cast. Karl Anthony Towns twenty three, Jade
Speaker 1: McDaniels twenty three, even Rudy Gobert Chip then with thirteen
Speaker 1: to nine. Kat had a double double. And they go
Speaker 1: on the road. Nasried came in and gave you eleven
Speaker 1: points off the bench. Showed you why he's sixth Man
Speaker 1: of the Year. Oh Joe, you had the Timberwolve winning
Speaker 1: this series in a game seven. They go on the road,
Speaker 1: get the job done. What was your takeaway from the game, Listen,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: Know what it was.
Speaker 5: I think last time he was on the show, you
Speaker 5: asked me. We talked about who would win the series. Obviously,
Speaker 5: you talked about the experience of the champions from last
Speaker 5: year and Denver probably going to be able to take it,
Speaker 5: being as they were playing the home home field advantage.
Speaker 5: But I said it was something about ant Man. It
Speaker 5: was something about a man that's been specialist entire series. Now,
Speaker 5: even in this game he didn't have his best game,
Speaker 5: but you just said, I'm a piggyback off what you
Speaker 5: just said. His supporting cast showed up, Kat showed up,
Speaker 5: Mike Conley showed up, Rudy Gobert showed up.
Speaker 2: God damn Jadon McDaniels really showed up, showed up.
Speaker 5: Everybody came to the party, and ant Man didn't have
Speaker 5: to do everything by himself.
Speaker 2: Doug doub what'd you see on what team?
Speaker 4: The Nuggets? Other wars we're going from the Wolves?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: And man, you're resilient.
Speaker 6: Even though he wasn't having a good game shooting wise,
Speaker 6: even they could frustrating, he still played good defense.
Speaker 4: And most star players when they ain't shooting the battle,
Speaker 4: they force it.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 6: He only had one turnover, so I think that was
Speaker 6: one of the keys in the games. Him down the
Speaker 6: stretch holding Jamal Murray. You know, somebody just toiling him,
Speaker 6: hands in his face, quick hands. Dem couldn't really just
Speaker 6: go on no runs like they normally do when they
Speaker 6: at the house. Minnesota always had had an answer for
Speaker 6: everything they did and I think the difference in this
Speaker 6: game tonight was Michael Porter Junior and Aaron Gordon had
Speaker 6: COVID because they can show up.
Speaker 4: They just dem only had two stars and double everybody else. Casey, yeah,
Speaker 4: like you wun on de Pinons tonight could do nothing.
Speaker 1: You you you ain't lied about that. And I think
Speaker 1: that was the difference in the ball game is that
Speaker 1: you know Murray, you know Murray and Yoki. You had
Speaker 1: to feel good because normal what was happening in the
Speaker 1: first half. Murray wasn't playing particularly well. There have been
Speaker 1: a couple of halves he didn't have anything. A couple
Speaker 1: of times in a half. He had two points where
Speaker 1: he goes bunkers in the first half, and you had
Speaker 1: to feel good if you're if you're the Nuggets or
Speaker 1: a Nuggets fan.
Speaker 2: Jokich was being jo Kis had a double dub at
Speaker 2: the half.
Speaker 1: He gave you thirty five. He gave you thirty four
Speaker 1: to nineteen and seven. Murray gave you thirty five, three
Speaker 1: and three. But you needed the supporting cast because Minnesota
Speaker 1: had six guys in double figures. The Nuggets had two
Speaker 1: guys in double figures. And see you see what happens
Speaker 1: when you go three on two. So you take you
Speaker 1: take at Man, you take Rudy go get Bert, and
Speaker 1: you take Jane Daniels. They cancel lot Yoke and Murray.
Speaker 1: Now we make it a series. Okay, Michael Porter Junior.
Speaker 1: Where you at? Okay, KCPTE. Where you at? Okay, Aaron Gordon,
Speaker 1: where you at? You see That's what Bubba doub I
Speaker 1: was talking Oh Joe about. That's what the Lakers were
Speaker 1: trying to do. Their big two gonna cancel out the
Speaker 1: Nuggets Big two. Now we're about to make it a
Speaker 1: three on three tournament. And more times than not, their
Speaker 1: other three outplayed the Lakers other three. But give the
Speaker 1: Timberwolves credit to have not been in a situation like
Speaker 1: this before and to do what they do, because we
Speaker 1: know the Nuggets are battle tested, they've been here, done that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and for them to go on the road, it's not easy,
Speaker 1: and they did it. They came from behind cause it
Speaker 1: was easy. Like, man, look this the home team. We
Speaker 1: down fourteen at one point, it got the twenty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they said, noah, we ain't going away, We're not
Speaker 1: going anywhere.
Speaker 5: Oh hell, god, damn this Minnesota. Second second time in
Speaker 5: the Western Conference Finals in franchise history, yep, franchise history.
Speaker 5: I'm assuming my numbers. If my number g KG was
Speaker 5: there back in whaty.
Speaker 2: Yes, that was the year of the If I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1: In fact, the Lakers ended up beating them in the finals,
Speaker 1: beat them in the Western Conference Finals that year. I
Speaker 1: think that was yet and i KG ended up winning
Speaker 1: the MVP, if I'm not mistaken. Off the top of
Speaker 1: my head, that's been twenty plus years ago. But I
Speaker 1: think that's the case. But you have to give the
Speaker 1: Timberwoods a lot of credit. We can say what the
Speaker 1: Nuggets didn't do, but let's give the Wolves credit for
Speaker 1: what they did do, which was execute time and time
Speaker 1: again in the second half. Remember, they're down, so they
Speaker 1: not only do they need to like play great defense,
Speaker 1: they need to execute on the other end. It doesn't
Speaker 1: do you any good to hold a team if you
Speaker 1: can't go down and execute your offense. They held that
Speaker 1: team with Nikola Yoki, who's this year a MVP, he's
Speaker 1: won three of the last four, and Jamal Murray held
Speaker 1: them to fourteen points.
Speaker 2: In an entire quarter.
Speaker 4: Now, no guy seeing it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that again. Bubbadub. You heard what I said.
Speaker 1: Murray and Yo held them to fourteen points in the quarter,
Speaker 1: when when Jamal Murray had fourteen in the first quarter
Speaker 1: by himself.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that's great.
Speaker 5: Well, who now that we got the Western Conference finals
Speaker 5: and we know who's playing who you got? But but
Speaker 5: do when you got the maths of the wars?
Speaker 2: Uncle? You got the maths of the wars for me?
Speaker 6: I just know how these things twist and turn. I
Speaker 6: got the maths. I got your I got I got
Speaker 6: Luca and Tyrie. I got them going to the finals.
Speaker 1: Talk to me, it's six's six and yeah, man.
Speaker 4: You see Mark creeving over. He ain't drinking no more,
Speaker 4: he ain't talking. Jason drinking on the maths is six.
Speaker 1: J k ain't knocking people drink out their hand to
Speaker 1: get a time by calls so they can clean up
Speaker 1: the floor. Yeah man, yeah, I'm with Dub. I'm leaning
Speaker 1: towards the Mavericks. Also, it's gonna be interesting to see
Speaker 1: how they match up, because occasionally they do. They don't
Speaker 1: really play. They don't really like to play too big together.
Speaker 1: They normally like GAFFERD and PJ. They don't really ever
Speaker 1: play Gaffard and Lively together. Uh, they don't really play
Speaker 1: those guys. They might have to with Kat and Rudy
Speaker 1: Gobert on the court. It's gonna be interesting to see
Speaker 1: Jadon McDaniels can only guard one. He's the best perimeter defender,
Speaker 1: so I'm assuming that he's gonna probably take Luca and
Speaker 1: ant Man will take Kyrie. So how much energy does
Speaker 1: he expand trying to deal with Kyrie?
Speaker 2: Because I think that's what probably hurt him tonight.
Speaker 1: He expended a lot of energy trying to deal with
Speaker 1: Murray fighting over those picks, and you know, a they're
Speaker 1: gonna set a lot of picks.
Speaker 2: Gafferd sets a lot of picks.
Speaker 1: Lively sets a lot of picks. They like to do
Speaker 1: the dribble drive, pick and roll, dribble hand dribble hand off.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting see this thing match up.
Speaker 1: But I think I'm gonna go with dub I think
Speaker 1: I think I like the Mavericks.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean both of y'all wrong, and I'm gonna
Speaker 5: say it. I'm gonna say it again, and I said
Speaker 5: it the last series. I told you the Wolves is
Speaker 5: gonna be win the last series simply because the ant
Speaker 5: man and I'm gonna do it again. I'm riding with
Speaker 5: a man again. There's something about that young man. It's
Speaker 5: something about this energy we already know he could do
Speaker 5: on the court. I'm just saying it's already his energy
Speaker 5: is passion for the game. He got that it factor,
Speaker 5: that in factor you can't you can't teach. He got
Speaker 5: that killer instinct with a smile on his face, similar to.
Speaker 2: Kobe and m j.
Speaker 5: I'm not calling them Michael Jordan, I'm not calling Kobe.
Speaker 5: I'm saying he has that same fact that they had
Speaker 5: when it comes to playing, and that with that killer
Speaker 5: instinct and that killer mentality, I'm telling you they're gonna
Speaker 5: send the MAVs home in seven.
Speaker 2: Now. You heard it here first. So if you're a
Speaker 2: gambling man, if you like to spend money, you want
Speaker 2: to gamble, you know what to do.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 6: You always tell people the it factor. You can have
Speaker 6: it fact you won't, but your car can't wrong. Got
Speaker 6: no offer that right now? Them what's gonna run? They're gonna.
Speaker 4: I feel like they're gonna run man into the Greg Gone.
Speaker 6: Look can do so much man, and like like said,
Speaker 6: you just spending all their energy trying to chase Kyrie.
Speaker 6: Then they're gonna be putting them on Lucal, then they're
Speaker 6: running out picking screens. I think I say about game five,
Speaker 6: he's gonna be real frustrated. And I'm telling y'all right now,
Speaker 6: when they get him Dallas, it's gonna get the rocking
Speaker 6: and rolling down there. And you know, timer, we'll still
Speaker 6: a young team as well as I ain't gonna say
Speaker 6: Dallas dan't they old. But Kyrie been really baptistic even
Speaker 6: been to the finals. He knows what he's gonna get
Speaker 6: too high, He's gonna get too low. So that's the
Speaker 6: only reason why I say I feel like the Maths
Speaker 6: gonna win this series and six. But I ain't taking
Speaker 6: nothing away from my team. Ant Man, phenomenal young player.
Speaker 6: He got a long time in this league to be
Speaker 6: great and winning rings. But for us getting to the finals,
Speaker 6: it's Dallas hip man. Dirk over there, got he wived
Speaker 6: and send him to the game with the with the
Speaker 6: paper plate with the fall on top of end' an.
Speaker 6: That's how you know that boy got his sister. He
Speaker 6: come to the game with fall paper on the player.
Speaker 1: I got that people asking him the chat You'll say,
Speaker 1: how is Kyrie gonna deal with that man? Kyrie is
Speaker 1: not gonna cover at man. Kyrie's gonna be on Mike Conley.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be his matchup for what? Because why would
Speaker 1: you why would you put him? Why would you put
Speaker 1: him on ad? He's not their best defender? Probably PJ
Speaker 1: Washington I'm thinking of end up with that man.
Speaker 2: Can't do nothing, waiting, can't do nothing, witty throwing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's it. I mean, ain't no what star can stop
Speaker 2: another star?
Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert's defensive Player of the Year and Yokich eighties
Speaker 1: what they end up putting Karl Anthony Towns on him.
Speaker 1: So stopping a defensive guy stopping a great offensive player,
Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: You just try to limit it.
Speaker 1: You try to make it as tough as he possibly
Speaker 1: can on him, just like they're not gonna stop Luca.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna try to make it as difficult as
Speaker 1: it possibly can. I'm gonna try to make him as
Speaker 1: inefficient as I possibly can. If he gets thirty five,
Speaker 1: but it take him twenty eight shots to do it. Okay,
Speaker 1: I can live with that, right, but I can't let
Speaker 1: him get thirty five on twenty shots. I can't let
Speaker 1: him get thirty five on eighteen nineteen shots. Nah, as
Speaker 1: long as it as long as he's like six or
Speaker 1: seven shots from what his point total lives, I can
Speaker 1: live with that.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: If you letting him now, if you go let him
Speaker 1: be nineteen or twenty eight, Yah's gonna be in trouble.
Speaker 1: You can be probably gonna have forty five, not thirty five.
Speaker 1: But you just try to make it as difficult as
Speaker 1: you possibly can.
Speaker 2: O Joe.
Speaker 1: You try to run him off as mini picks, you know,
Speaker 1: call Anthony town. He likes to pick and pop. He
Speaker 1: can roll to the basket and stuff. That's not This
Speaker 1: is a big team. They can rebound. This is big.
Speaker 1: When you go to sem Fuddhers, you expect to win
Speaker 1: the rebounding battle. Yeah, then you come in with nas
Speaker 1: Reid who's sixteen, so you're expecting to win the rebounding
Speaker 1: battle and so the second chance points. So that's what
Speaker 1: I'm looking at. Who wins the second chance points? Who
Speaker 1: wins points in the paint. Both guys like to spend
Speaker 1: a lot of time in the paint. Luca liked to
Speaker 1: get in the paint Kyrie likes to play in the
Speaker 1: paint and man like to be in the paint. So
Speaker 1: it's gonna be very very interesting calling it a cat
Speaker 1: does have an advantage. He has an advantage over PJ.
Speaker 1: He has the advantage over anybody that's gonna possibly be guarding.
Speaker 1: The question is is he gonna be willing to go
Speaker 1: down in the paint or you just gonna hover around
Speaker 1: the three point line?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 6: On all three point line like always, that's what tripping
Speaker 6: over his big seat, Tripp seven foot sometimes he playing
Speaker 6: like the six foot man caught at the times you right,
Speaker 6: he really can't nobody really whole quantity times when he
Speaker 6: gonna want to be held.
Speaker 4: But for the most point he just hang over there
Speaker 4: like Chris Bosh used to do three point.
Speaker 6: Line and just just seven. But it's gonna be a
Speaker 6: good series. I'll tell you that it's a pass another
Speaker 6: torch if you ask me, del Vioger, ain't no bronze,
Speaker 6: ain't no currs, ain't no durance is ant man, Luca,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. Like it's a young man's
Speaker 6: game right now, so I think it's a passing of
Speaker 6: the torch. It's a bringing the thing. Really just to
Speaker 6: sit back and just watch this thing play out the
Speaker 6: way it's gonna play out.
Speaker 1: It really is. This is the first time in a
Speaker 1: long time. You ain't got no kd. You ain't got
Speaker 1: no Steph, you ain't got no Lebron, ain't none of
Speaker 1: them guys. All those guys were gone after the first round.
Speaker 1: Stephan didn't even make the playoffs. So now you got
Speaker 1: guys the old guard. I mean, that's not that's not
Speaker 1: even making it past the first round. This is a
Speaker 1: young man's game. They're getting younger and younger. You see
Speaker 1: team putting big try to put big threes together, and
Speaker 1: that's not working.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: It's homegrown. Karl Anthony Towns is homegrown. Yes, they're great,
Speaker 1: great acquisition in getting Conley Jade McDaniels, homegrown, Naz Reid.
Speaker 1: I think he was a trade, but he's been he's homegrown.
Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert, they traded for Rudy Gobert. You look at
Speaker 1: the other team for the most part, you know they're
Speaker 1: homegrown guy.
Speaker 2: And so that's that's where we are now.
Speaker 1: It is I agree with you, dub, I believe it's
Speaker 1: it's a changing of the guard. Uh these young guys,
Speaker 1: they don't fear anything anymore. It's like it's I time.
Speaker 1: You guys have had your time. Now it's I time.
Speaker 1: And uh man, they doing it. These young guys are
Speaker 1: doing it. So it's gonna be interesting to see. You know. Uh,
Speaker 1: the Maths do have Powell. You know, they haven't played
Speaker 1: him in a while, dubbing o Jo. Pole's been sitting
Speaker 1: on the bench because once they got brought Gafford in
Speaker 1: in PJ. Washington, he was kind of relegated. They get
Speaker 1: a big lead the game he comes in and play,
Speaker 1: they're way behind. He comes in and play, but they're
Speaker 1: mainly been rolling with Gaffer and Lively. Lively he got
Speaker 1: great bounce, rolling to the basket, that's what he is.
Speaker 1: Great lob can rebound, gave you a double double yesterday.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting to see how this thing
Speaker 1: plays out with the two bigs from Minnesota and will
Speaker 1: they go will Maths, because see, if I'm the Maths,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what I do. I'm not gonna try
Speaker 1: to match up. I'm not gonna try to beat you
Speaker 1: at your game. That's your game playing two bags. Our
Speaker 1: game is the roll with Gaffer and then swop him
Speaker 1: out with with Lively. But that's gonna be a very
Speaker 1: interesting series. Give the Minnesota Timberwolves credit enter into nine
Speaker 1: teams that were twenty and old all time, up by
Speaker 1: fifteen at the half in a game seven, and the
Speaker 1: Minnesota Timberwolves erased that. The Pacers go on the road
Speaker 1: beat the Knicks one nine. They came out hot early,
Speaker 1: took the crowd out of the ball game. And when
Speaker 1: you did that, and that's what you needed to see.
Speaker 1: I needed to see ty Tyres Halibert, he tells you,
Speaker 1: he says, man, I'm legit. He's an all star. He
Speaker 1: played like one today. He gave you twenty six points.
Speaker 1: Nimhr gave you twenty points. Miles Turner gave you seventeen points.
Speaker 1: Aaron Nesmith gave you nineteen points. Pj's Pascal Siaka gave
Speaker 1: you twenty point. TJ McConnell. That joke of toughest wet
Speaker 1: level man, Hey, hey Doug, hein't giving it to him,
Speaker 1: Hey dude pulling up on the baseline shooting from behind
Speaker 1: the back, like, oh, y'all saw that too other night.
Speaker 1: He told him, I'm a dog. Oh you see how
Speaker 1: the tempo pick up. He picked up jay Len Brunson
Speaker 1: full court. Come on, let's go. Let's do that. Make
Speaker 1: it tough on him. They got twelve, so they had
Speaker 1: their starters. Twenty nineteen, seventeen, twenty twenty six. They got
Speaker 1: three guys with twenty points, one guy with nineteen, one
Speaker 1: guy with seventeen. McConnell comes off the bench, give you twelve.
Speaker 1: Isaiah Jackson comes off the bench, gives you nine. At
Speaker 1: some point in time, you just run out of bodies.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you can't keep og Leanobe hurt, Josh Hart
Speaker 1: real College, he's heath injured. Uh, you got no Julius Randall,
Speaker 1: Robinson's gone, brought Donovich's out, and Jalen Brunson he ends
Speaker 1: up breaking his hand on a breakaway, tried to strip
Speaker 1: the ball.
Speaker 2: Bro everzond. There's so much you can do.
Speaker 1: I mean, I spike leading, getting them y'all let hooping
Speaker 1: and holland hell he be doing. Got help them chase
Speaker 1: and markes ship.
Speaker 4: You got help him do.
Speaker 1: Something bad Joe, Hey, hey, bad Joe. Could have sent
Speaker 1: a screen or something, but the problem was that couldn't
Speaker 1: play defense. O Joe, you got a team if I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken. That's pretty close to a record. They shot
Speaker 1: sixty seven percent from the floor, Yeah, fifty four percent
Speaker 1: from the three. Yea, you not beating the team if
Speaker 1: you let them shoot sixty seven percent from the floor
Speaker 1: and fifty four percent, and they should they shoot at
Speaker 1: least twenty three right and they Oh.
Speaker 5: No, you're not beating Listen. They everybody showed up for
Speaker 5: the Pacers. Obviously, it was game seven, it was duer die.
Speaker 5: They were playing in the Garden, the Mecca, and they
Speaker 5: ran they they ran the next spread up out of that.
Speaker 5: But the Knicks being injured, it didn't help. Jalen Brunson
Speaker 5: being injured, getting injured didn't help obviously, you know, Julus Randal,
Speaker 5: he hadn't been there all series, hadn't been there for
Speaker 5: a while.
Speaker 2: Josh hurt, Josh Hart being hurt as well.
Speaker 5: It just it was only so much they could do,
Speaker 5: and they don't They don't have much of a bench
Speaker 5: anyway that could compete.
Speaker 2: With the Pacers.
Speaker 1: No go ahead, dubh Tyri Solibrandon.
Speaker 4: He had twenty five, twenty six points.
Speaker 1: He had twenty six points, six or six, four rebounds
Speaker 1: or steal a block, and only two turnovers.
Speaker 6: When he's aggressive Indiana tough debate. Remember early in the
Speaker 6: year the run they went on up the Lakers ended
Speaker 6: up being there and they play in tournament. I'm not
Speaker 6: there playing tournament, but they little in season tournament, in
Speaker 6: season tournament. So there you go, right there, Miles Turner
Speaker 6: hip then where he had seventeen points tonight.
Speaker 1: Yep, them Hart gave you twenty, Pascal Fiakam gave you twenty,
Speaker 1: and Aaron Nesmith gave you a nineteen on pass.
Speaker 2: I can think he Kobe.
Speaker 6: He think he's coming down there doing turnaround waving people
Speaker 6: like he going one on one now on run the
Speaker 6: off fens through HALLI burry Man.
Speaker 4: But nevertheless, though, I think you know Nick's hurt. Uh
Speaker 4: Josh Hart blew a tire.
Speaker 6: Uh sangue Jackson le Bronston, the head coach, he can
Speaker 6: just rang them man Cans rang him too much.
Speaker 4: Man, Josh Hart playing forty eight minutes like what two
Speaker 4: or three games in the row.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 6: So I think they just take a toll on your
Speaker 6: body as a whole. But you know, the Knicks, y'all
Speaker 6: had a great season. I got a couple of friends
Speaker 6: up to Uncle New York and them rats right now
Speaker 6: and they're having the ceremony right now. Skipped to my loop.
Speaker 6: Right now, y'all rule this grain right now. Man, y'all
Speaker 6: celebrated to hereld Man. I was seeing y'all playing music
Speaker 6: before the game. I knew again y'all was gonna lose.
Speaker 6: But I got to the places they ate country kitchen.
Speaker 2: Before the.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I knew that we're gonna win country kitchen.
Speaker 1: Cut your kitchen where it's at. I agree with you, Dub,
Speaker 1: and we've talked about it all year. The problem that
Speaker 1: Tims have is that he plays these guys extremely. I mean, bro,
Speaker 1: they on fumes. They're on fumes. I mean, you got
Speaker 1: Josh Hart. Josh Hart probably until he went out the
Speaker 1: other night, was probably averaging about forty three minutes a
Speaker 1: game in the in the postseason. You got all these
Speaker 1: guys played and O G look, I understand he hey
Speaker 1: he held together with all that tape. I was like, well, damn, bro,
Speaker 1: how you gonna be able to move? He got Canifield tape,
Speaker 1: all that rock k all down in the back of
Speaker 1: his leg, all down the side. Hell, I thought he
Speaker 1: was a ken doll that we had no pull the
Speaker 1: off as he tried to fix him up. What damn
Speaker 1: why he shoulder? He went up and down like two
Speaker 1: times up he raised that hands.
Speaker 2: I got nothing for you.
Speaker 1: I ain't got nothing player today, but that I mean,
Speaker 1: you play those kind of minutes and you look at
Speaker 1: the shooting Pascal Siakam eight of fifteen, Aaron Nei Smith
Speaker 1: eight of eight, Miles Turner seven of eleven, nim Hard
Speaker 1: six eight of ten, Haliburton ten of seventeen, McConnell six
Speaker 1: of eight, Isaiah Jackson three or three. Only Obie Tompa
Speaker 1: was out there running around like a blind dog in
Speaker 1: the meathouse. He was good and terrible to that good
Speaker 1: thing that he need him. But you let a team
Speaker 1: shoot sixty seven percent from the floor fifty four percent
Speaker 1: from the three.
Speaker 2: Oh man, you're not beating them.
Speaker 5: You know, it's funny, and the chances of you matching
Speaker 5: that efficiency is not highly not likely because somebody ain't
Speaker 5: playing no goddamn defense.
Speaker 2: For one, somebody ain't playing no goddamn defense.
Speaker 4: You know what they were say, is a player?
Speaker 2: Ye?
Speaker 4: Well, like what do you say? Can you can you
Speaker 4: start hurt? Really?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: Yeah, bruston hurt? Like who do you step go to
Speaker 1: and talk to say we really need you. Like, like
Speaker 1: who was on their team that you think Bronson could
Speaker 1: have went to, Butteven Chinzo gave you thirty nine a dub.
Speaker 1: He was nine to fifteen from the three he was.
Speaker 1: He was like keeping them attacked. But the problem is
Speaker 1: you if you studied and they have. I'm certain if
Speaker 1: you watch the way the Pacers play, they're looking to
Speaker 1: push tempo. Whether you make it, they'll take it out
Speaker 1: the net and they're gonna push it. If you look
Speaker 1: at it. They was on made basket. They was getting up,
Speaker 1: laying the ball up in the other end because the
Speaker 1: Knicks weren't getting back. You make you miss it. They
Speaker 1: getting up and you got Nim hard raining a three.
Speaker 1: You automatically know you got the sprint back because you
Speaker 1: know why. They know Josh Hart's gonna crash the boards.
Speaker 1: They know Hart and Steam's coming, so somebody if everybody
Speaker 1: crashing the boards, who's back on defense? So they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's krrah a corral, a couple of the lose balls.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get some easy bucket. But you know the
Speaker 1: Pacer style, they don't play defense either. They just feel
Speaker 1: that they're gonna make a better percentage, they're gonna get
Speaker 1: more layups than you are. Yeah, they don't play no defense.
Speaker 1: They're not They're trying to play old eighties basketball. And
Speaker 1: if you're old enough to remember when the teams were
Speaker 1: routinely scoring one forties, one fifties, there are a couple
Speaker 1: of games in the one eighties if you could believe that.
Speaker 2: But the way they play, they're trying to ay make
Speaker 2: or miss.
Speaker 1: We push it and mc mike d'An tony offense that
Speaker 1: he is, Yeah, uh talk bad about because he took
Speaker 1: the sentience teams he had.
Speaker 6: They been playing no defense. They've been trying to not score.
Speaker 6: You the Pacers doing now.
Speaker 1: So you see the number. You see the number they
Speaker 1: got one thirty. They scored thirty nine in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: They scored thirty nine in the second quarter. That's a
Speaker 1: that's seventy points. They got thirty one in the last
Speaker 1: twenty five playoff series. That's the first time, that's the
Speaker 1: first time somebody's been of one hundred and one through
Speaker 1: three orders.
Speaker 2: And you ain't playing a liquor defense.
Speaker 4: And they couldn't be me because you ain't playing defense.
Speaker 4: I'm the coach.
Speaker 1: You're sitting by me, come out. I put somebody else
Speaker 1: in there. Well at this point, well was o g
Speaker 1: once Og got hurt. He's the best perimeter defender, Josh
Speaker 1: Hart with that cartlage, you know, Jo you I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've ever had real collage, but you ain't
Speaker 1: moving to split with Yeah, because.
Speaker 2: The sudden movement, it hurt.
Speaker 4: It hurt. Yeah, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: They gave a little medicine. They gave a little medicine.
Speaker 5: I don't, Yeah, I don't. I don't know what they
Speaker 5: feel like. I don't know what it feels like. But obviously, listen,
Speaker 5: the Pacers did what they need to do. But I'm curious.
Speaker 5: The Knicks didn't have a bad season at all. Injuries
Speaker 5: injuries ruined the ending of this series, and I just
Speaker 5: I just wanted to I want to ask both of y'all,
Speaker 5: what do you think Jalen Bruns and rings as a
Speaker 5: Nick all time?
Speaker 2: Well, it's too early, because you got to realize that
Speaker 2: Nick one championship.
Speaker 1: Now they had walk cried Phraiser, they had Earl the
Speaker 1: Pearl one rock was it makes one championships?
Speaker 5: I mean, based on based on what he's done so
Speaker 5: far is as far as his scoring efficiency in the
Speaker 5: playoffs is he?
Speaker 2: Oh yeahwhere in the top as far Westand.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember Bernard King in the eighties,
Speaker 1: but bird Dog could go get buckets, yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I think the thing else and look, I
Speaker 1: love I love his game. He's an undersized guard. We
Speaker 1: hadn't seen a guard his size. You got to go
Speaker 1: back to Isaiah Thomas. You remember Isaiah Thomas was doing
Speaker 1: this for the Celtics before he had that hip.
Speaker 2: He tore out labor. M in his hell.
Speaker 1: He was dropping fifty, he was dropping forties and really
Speaker 1: him playing through dealing what he was dealing.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: He remember he tragically lost his sister and he played
Speaker 1: through a tour in labor, which really cost him because
Speaker 1: he should have sat his ass down.
Speaker 2: Let that thing.
Speaker 1: He dandy, ain't got a player, and the man never
Speaker 1: got the money that he rightfully deserve. But if you
Speaker 1: go back and look at a Isaiah Little, it not
Speaker 1: Zee the original Isaiah. He put up numbers, he put
Speaker 1: a had numbers like this. But man Brunson, man, he
Speaker 1: can go get buckets. He hey, he can got the
Speaker 1: three He can stroke the three, and he spends a
Speaker 1: lot of time in the pain man. He be putting
Speaker 1: that body on and putting that shoulder in the chest.
Speaker 1: All he needs is is a little separation and that
Speaker 1: left it in the mid range. He's special. They got
Speaker 1: something special. But the thing is what o Jo you
Speaker 1: know and Dub, you've been following sports. You don't start
Speaker 1: back in the Eastern Conference semifinals. You gotta start this
Speaker 1: is the journey all over again. You gotta leave your
Speaker 1: house all over again and start on this road again.
Speaker 1: And it ain't no guarantees in sports. That's why we
Speaker 1: love sports so much because it ain't no guarantee. Ain't
Speaker 1: no guarantee you're gonna get back here, ain't no guarantee
Speaker 1: that you're gonna take a step for it. You're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: they went to the semifinals, Eastern Conference summi finals. Next
Speaker 1: year they take the next step into the next year
Speaker 1: they take Now, it don't work like that. That's not
Speaker 1: how sports. You gotta think about it. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: a healthy youngest, a healthy dame next year. The bucks
Speaker 1: can't can't count. Can't count to my next year either,
Speaker 1: or healthy Joel and b and b you didn't get
Speaker 1: got them skepules.
Speaker 2: Fam you can't by all that the sketch man.
Speaker 4: Why you always got problem, need problem sketcher.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, hey, Doug, what they paying them? He Doug,
Speaker 1: what they're paying the bad man. You need to gonna
Speaker 1: get on some of the sketches they.
Speaker 4: Put me after his own. I ain't passing the ball.
Speaker 1: Let you know right now, schedules, pro kids, zips, it
Speaker 1: o't batter whatever y'all got. Y'all there. They probably give
Speaker 1: that man probably about twelve fifty to wear them sketches. Yeah,
Speaker 1: more than that to be to be honest, ain't nobody
Speaker 1: wearing them but him? They have to be giving him fifty.
Speaker 1: I let the sketches, I wear them Julius rather than sketchers.
Speaker 4: Also, dun he can't playing nine months was around. He
Speaker 4: ain't help me more thing with the knicks right now, So.
Speaker 2: You have to A.
Speaker 1: I don't know had this ever happened before. Two road
Speaker 1: teams on the same day go on the road and
Speaker 1: win game sevens. I don't know if that's ever happened before.
Speaker 1: So you probably got an opportunity to win something with
Speaker 1: witness something extremely rare with two road teams go on
Speaker 1: the road and win Game sevens. The Knicks go on
Speaker 1: the road and they do a complete demolition job on
Speaker 1: the Knicks one to one oh nine. The Timberwolves, down
Speaker 1: by as many as twenty points in the ball game,
Speaker 1: come back all the way back, and they wear ninety
Speaker 1: eight to ninety. Both teams advanced to the Eastern and
Speaker 1: Western Conference Finals, where the Pacers will take on the Celtics,
Speaker 1: who's been.
Speaker 2: Waiting for a couple of days.
Speaker 1: And the Timberwolves start at home where they take on
Speaker 1: the Dallas Mavericks, who dispatched the OKC thunder yesterday. So
Speaker 1: that's the that's the matchup. Pacers travel to Boston. Game
Speaker 1: one is probably what Tuesday? Wednesday in the Minnesota, Timberwolves
Speaker 1: open at against the Dallas Mavericks. Uh So the Boston
Speaker 1: series starts Wednesday. The Winston Conference the Math start Winnsday, Okay,
Speaker 1: the Mavericks and the Mavericks and the Timberwolves start Wednesday,
Speaker 1: Indiana and the Celtics start Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Okay. All right, it's time for our first first first
Speaker 2: segment of the night. It's a news cap.
Speaker 1: Several teams are considering drafting Bronnie in the first round
Speaker 1: to loud Lebron James. An anonymous NBA execs, if you're
Speaker 1: contender and you're not having those conversations, it's irresponsible. The
Speaker 1: Lakers are among the teams reportedly considering drafting Bronnie I'll
Speaker 1: bet in the second round. The Mavericks are also in
Speaker 1: the mix, with reports suggested they might draft Ronny as
Speaker 1: a strategy to attract Lebron to their roster. Dube, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna start with you on different first, what you think
Speaker 1: should their team draft Lebron Lebron James. You r Bronnie
Speaker 1: James in the first round with the hope of potentially
Speaker 1: Lourie Lebron Hey on, No, I love bron Bronni is
Speaker 1: gonna be great in this league, but I'm not taking
Speaker 1: the first round.
Speaker 6: No, I'm not gonna better do it the only way
Speaker 6: I would do it if I know Lebron. In fact,
Speaker 6: it's gonna come to my team now. Reason why I
Speaker 6: feel like the Dallas Massage name come up because the
Speaker 6: relationship with Lebron and Jason Kidd.
Speaker 4: So I don't think I'm tink. A lot of people
Speaker 4: know that they're real close and cool.
Speaker 1: On that.
Speaker 6: So I could see Jason Kidd trying to pull that off.
Speaker 6: But I don't see the Lakers letting that happen. I
Speaker 6: feel like they are gonna draft Brunny and just keep
Speaker 6: bron now and do it that way. But I'm on
Speaker 6: NBA owner and fresh rynd. Bronnie James come up. Watch
Speaker 6: out is he's still in the fourth round?
Speaker 2: Thirty fourth round?
Speaker 6: Object football? Well, I gave him second round. I'm not
Speaker 6: getting the first round. I got to go get I
Speaker 6: got to go give me some tick from somebody's gonna
Speaker 6: help my team right now, not two or three years
Speaker 6: from now.
Speaker 1: I need somebody right now. So now, I wouldn't take
Speaker 1: Bronnie first round. Now what you what you thinking about
Speaker 1: Joe Man?
Speaker 5: You know I'm going I'm going to get him. I'm
Speaker 5: going to get him first round, second round. I don't
Speaker 5: care what it is, because you understand Lebron has already
Speaker 5: said it already. Lebron said his dream is to play
Speaker 5: with his son. So whoever drafts Lebron, whoever drafts Bronnie,
Speaker 5: Lebron at some point is going to find his way there.
Speaker 2: It might be the Lakers.
Speaker 5: If it's not the Lakers, hell, it could be the Math,
Speaker 5: wherever it is Hell, it could be Cleveland, whatever it would.
Speaker 5: It don't matter what round he goes to. You still
Speaker 5: understand what you get. Even with a thirty plus year
Speaker 5: old Lebron. It gives your team a chance to be
Speaker 5: in contention wherever he goes. It doesn't matter even at
Speaker 5: his age.
Speaker 4: You know nothing.
Speaker 2: That's been.
Speaker 1: Thirteen years ago. I will say about Lebron. This Lebron,
Speaker 1: he's brought up several times. No, guess what I haven't heard.
Speaker 1: I've heard Lebron say his dream is to play with Bronny.
Speaker 1: I've never heard Bronnie say that's my dream to play
Speaker 1: with I.
Speaker 2: Suppose he's not supposed to say he's not because he's
Speaker 2: not supposed to. You got to start the script because
Speaker 2: they had that talk at home already. Let me do
Speaker 2: the talking.
Speaker 7: You say all the right things, and I'll have everything
Speaker 7: else on the back end. He's not supposed to say
Speaker 7: that if Lebron. I don't believe Lebron his last year.
Speaker 7: I believe he's gonna play with Bronnie the next two year.
Speaker 5: Last year, I told you that's not gonna happen. It's
Speaker 5: going to happen now if it ain't. If it doesn't
Speaker 5: happen now, it ain't gonna happen later. But then Lebron
Speaker 5: ain't trying to win no more rings. Then he need
Speaker 5: to come out and say thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4: He needs to. I just want to play with my son.
Speaker 4: Cool well, she's gonna want to win. Brought home.
Speaker 2: Hold on you, jail. You just said it's the passing
Speaker 2: of that t it's a young man's game now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Bronny ain't thirty yet. He gonna be here,
Speaker 4: y'all trying to give him.
Speaker 6: Taper food too fast, durable, continue to give him durable.
Speaker 2: You get that chicken.
Speaker 6: It's gonna be over. It's only gonna want some chicken.
Speaker 6: Give him umber now right now, man on the durable man.
Speaker 1: Bron That's the thing that's it. Like I said, I
Speaker 1: believe Lebron James, he's gonna opt out of the contract.
Speaker 1: I believe the signs two plus an option. The option
Speaker 1: here gives him the opportunity to opt out his contract
Speaker 1: and go wherever Brony is. Brian is right, but Lebron James,
Speaker 1: Lebron James, and he's looking like okay, I'm sure Rich
Speaker 1: Paul and Lebron is saying working who develops.
Speaker 2: Players? Laker?
Speaker 4: Who?
Speaker 2: The Lakers developed Lamo?
Speaker 1: They didn't. They didn't develop, They didn't develop, Lonzoball, the
Speaker 1: developed Julius Randall.
Speaker 2: You own?
Speaker 1: Oh, we want to give them credit if they thought
Speaker 1: so much, If they thought so much to Austin Reeves,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have been an undrafted Fridger. Wasn't Caruso or
Speaker 1: another undrafted Frigier. I'm talking about those high draft picks,
Speaker 1: the brandon Ingram, the d Los, the Lonzo Ball, the
Speaker 1: Julius Randall? Did they develop there?
Speaker 5: Hey, I got a question when it comes to development.
Speaker 5: Doesn't development anyway happen in the goddamn off season.
Speaker 6: If I'm mistaken, that bred pop bitch somewhere to get
Speaker 6: developed the right way?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Did you see you see? Okay? See you see them
Speaker 2: young guys? Are they developing? Yeah? You just told me.
Speaker 1: You just told me you developed by playing. Now you're
Speaker 1: telling me you developed in the off season.
Speaker 5: Play saying developed, working on your game, get get getting
Speaker 5: your ship together, because osse, once you go into a
Speaker 5: structuring environment, I'm just.
Speaker 2: Thinking excess nose. I'm thinking of ex nos and whatever
Speaker 2: you whatever you.
Speaker 5: Improve in the off season, then you bring that in
Speaker 5: and make and make it easier for those around you.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's what I mean.
Speaker 4: You carry over?
Speaker 2: Can you carry it over in the game? Hey, I
Speaker 2: mean I would hope, So, I would hope.
Speaker 1: We see a lot of guys. How many guys you
Speaker 1: see on tape? You see in the off season they
Speaker 1: working out and he come game time you're like, well, damn, bro,
Speaker 1: I saw you. Yeah, yeah, I saw your IG story.
Speaker 1: You look like Jared Rice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see what you mean. I see what you mean.
Speaker 1: But look like I said, I don't think Lebron. I
Speaker 1: don't think Lebron is chomping at the bed right now.
Speaker 1: He knows that process is a couple.
Speaker 2: Of years away.
Speaker 1: I believe Lebron James believes, legitimately believe he can play
Speaker 1: currently at the level that he's playing at at least
Speaker 1: two to three more years. I believe he believed that
Speaker 1: in his heart that he can average twenty five the
Speaker 1: numbers that he averaged twenty five points, seven rebounds, eight
Speaker 1: assists for the next two to three years that third
Speaker 1: year plus dub He want to put that record out
Speaker 1: that he don't want nobody to ever get that because
Speaker 1: they thought nobody would ever touch Kareem's record. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember when Keith Kareem broke the
Speaker 1: record at the Thomas and Mack at UNLV. People don't
Speaker 1: against Utah because back then teams travel basketball wasn't like
Speaker 1: it was now that you play all your home games
Speaker 1: in your home arena. No, the Lakers travel Boston, played
Speaker 1: games in Hartford, Atlanta, played games in New Orleans. People don't.
Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember that, Doug. That a little
Speaker 1: bit before your time. You at Ocho, Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I was there.
Speaker 2: I was there.
Speaker 1: The rules were a lot different. You got three shots
Speaker 1: to make two at the free throw line. Three to
Speaker 1: make two is what they called it. The first roude
Speaker 1: of the playoffs was the best two out of three,
Speaker 1: and then you went three out of five, then you
Speaker 1: went four out of seven. I remember when they put
Speaker 1: the three point line in the nineteen seventy.
Speaker 2: Nine Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, that game. So that
Speaker 2: just goes that just a show you.
Speaker 1: But I don't think I think lebron I think Bronny
Speaker 1: needs time to develop. He needs probably about another year
Speaker 1: to grow into its body, get a little stronger, what
Speaker 1: did they say. He's six one and a half two ten.
Speaker 1: That's a nice that's a nice little frame. He probably
Speaker 1: could put on another five times and can be a holiday,
Speaker 1: be a davy On Mitchell. He think he can be better,
Speaker 1: you think he'd be better than that job. I think
Speaker 1: he got the best trainer in the world, his daddy.
Speaker 1: I don't doubt nothing about what Broggie James can't be
Speaker 1: and all so. But but here's the thing done. We
Speaker 1: got the temporary expectations because of his daddy, because a
Speaker 1: lot of times what we do with his dad that
Speaker 1: he God ain't gonna give you that. You tell me
Speaker 1: the great historically great player that his dad and the
Speaker 1: son have been historically great. Kareem had a son, Doctor
Speaker 1: j had a son, magic got son.
Speaker 5: I know, I know I know one who won't be
Speaker 5: like that. I know I know a father son daughter
Speaker 5: who won't be like that. Who Marvin Harrison Senior, Marvin
Speaker 5: Harrison Jr.
Speaker 2: That'll be the first.
Speaker 5: Mark got to be the first, and that that's that's
Speaker 5: one on the way. But I mean, my expectations are realistic.
Speaker 5: You can look at at the DNA, you can look
Speaker 5: at the body style, you can look at the playing
Speaker 5: type of each of each person.
Speaker 2: You look at lebron you look at Bronnie.
Speaker 5: I'm not expecting Bronnie to look like lebron because they
Speaker 5: have completely different playing styles, They're built differently. It just
Speaker 5: it just it just common sense from looking from the
Speaker 5: outside in. So I'm not expecting Bronnie to play like that.
Speaker 5: So obviously, whatever style of game he does, having whatever
Speaker 5: style of game he does develop, he ain't going to
Speaker 5: have to make a name for himself and it won't
Speaker 5: be anything like his father.
Speaker 1: But he can sure do it right now, and bron could.
Speaker 1: At this point, I know you're not sure. Brinny needs
Speaker 1: to be Bryce's side. Bryce looked like he's about sixty six.
Speaker 1: That's what Bronnie needs. Brinny needs to be sixty six. No,
Speaker 1: stop it. Barry Bonds was a very good player. I mean,
Speaker 1: Bobby Bons was a very good player. He ain't Barry
Speaker 1: Ken Griffyth Sr. Was a very good player.
Speaker 4: He ain't junior junior.
Speaker 2: So stop it, stop it, y'all. List the names. You
Speaker 2: can list, all the names you won't.
Speaker 1: Maybe if you want to go hockey, you go to
Speaker 1: the hall, you go Brenton, Bobby Hawk, Okay, I can
Speaker 1: see that, but when you start talking basketball and baseball
Speaker 1: and football, it ain't even close either. The dad was historic.
Speaker 1: Archie Manning was great. He got two sons that went
Speaker 1: number one overall. Archie wasn't Peyton. I'm old enough. I'm
Speaker 1: old enough to remember when Archie play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen Archie play with the Saints. Man. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, you know, it's gonna be very,
Speaker 1: very interesting to see how this thing materializes. I just
Speaker 1: think the thing is is hard for a player when
Speaker 1: you have a historically great father, because they automatically assume
Speaker 1: you're gonna be like that. And bro, you're talking about
Speaker 1: I believe he's the greatest. Most people don't have him
Speaker 1: outside the top three. The likelihood of somebody a top
Speaker 1: three football, basketball, baseball player.
Speaker 2: And you got a son that's gonna be history transcendently great.
Speaker 2: Come on now, oh, the Mainweather. That's another good example. Hey,
Speaker 2: Floyd Senior wasn't Floyd A.
Speaker 1: He wasn't junior, right, Ay, No, if that was the case,
Speaker 1: If Sugar Ray Leonard was may Weather, for now we're
Speaker 1: talking about something. Because Sugar Ray was legit won the
Speaker 1: Gold Mellon in seventy six and then short uh yeah,
Speaker 1: seventy six. And then he ended up knocking out Wilfer Benitez,
Speaker 1: who was the youngest champion at seventeen. Well he was
Speaker 1: like he was a little older when he knocked him out,
Speaker 1: but he won the better like Wilfer Benitaez. I think
Speaker 1: he was seventeen when he won the title. But it
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. It doesn't happen. Offer, Look at Joe Fraser,
Speaker 1: Marvius uh seizar Z junior and senior.
Speaker 2: Junior, senior.
Speaker 5: Yeah, mah was great and he was great. Yeah, that's
Speaker 5: a good one. And that's a good one. That's a
Speaker 5: good one. That's a good one.
Speaker 4: It doesn't happen, Offer, I mean my daddy went with her,
Speaker 4: damn and I.
Speaker 2: Now so so now so that app was still on
Speaker 2: the tree, did fall from the tree? Still on the tree?
Speaker 1: Y Donovan Mitchell is the Lakers top trade target this
Speaker 1: summer if he decides, if they decide to add a
Speaker 1: third star. The focus on Mitchell is notable shift for
Speaker 1: the Lakers organization. Just a few months ago, they were
Speaker 1: content to pursue trade similar scale players including Trey Young
Speaker 1: or Dejontay Murray. Coming into the season, there were more
Speaker 1: focused on building up their supporting cast than anything else
Speaker 1: with but with Lebron entering the final year of his career,
Speaker 1: the Lakers are growing desperate to win a title, and
Speaker 1: they decided the quickest path to that goal is to
Speaker 1: bring in star power as soon as possible.
Speaker 5: So I keep hearing multiple things here, and I keep
Speaker 5: hearing Jeante Murray, Donovan Mitchell, and then I hear Damar
Speaker 5: Rosan wants to come back home and play. He has
Speaker 5: no problem coming back home. He's always wanted to come play.
Speaker 5: I think things can happen. I think Russ came instead
Speaker 5: instead of tomorrow.
Speaker 4: So what do they do?
Speaker 5: Who is the best fit? Who is the best fit
Speaker 5: to pair where they have? They have a three headed monster.
Speaker 5: I'm assuming they have to get really rush, right Janel
Speaker 5: Russell has to.
Speaker 2: Go or yeah, people gotta go. He ain't gonna be
Speaker 2: the only one. Well, you ain't gonna you ain't gonna
Speaker 2: have no bench. Then you gonna be just You're gonna
Speaker 2: be just like You're gonna be just like the Sons.
Speaker 2: Do you want to do that? Do you want to
Speaker 2: put it?
Speaker 5: Do you want to put all your eggs in one
Speaker 5: basket with a three headed monster and have no goddamn
Speaker 5: bench in there, and and the onus of winning becomes
Speaker 5: just is relying on three people.
Speaker 6: They nause, You're gonna be just like the Sons.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be home. Maybe Kevin Durant.
Speaker 4: Come for him?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah for him.
Speaker 4: You. I won't need no bits if I get ka.
Speaker 2: Look at it.
Speaker 1: Look at look at Minnesota, they got two stars enrolled.
Speaker 1: Look at them, but they won the championship two stars
Speaker 1: and rolls. Look at uh look at Indiana. Yeah, then
Speaker 1: the fire there in the Eastern Conference finals. Look at
Speaker 1: how they're built. Look at the Celtics. Look how they're bill. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the three stars? You you you deplete.
Speaker 2: Because I read that over the what the next three years?
Speaker 2: They old book bill.
Speaker 1: And KD four hundred and eighty four million between the
Speaker 1: three God damn, how you gonna put what you're gonna
Speaker 1: put around them on? They owe? How much? Four hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty four million? Yeah, and then go nowhere. So it's.
Speaker 2: Come the real talk. Whatever you mean, we got it
Speaker 2: for you. I'm phinomen. Let me see, let me see
Speaker 2: if Katie answer man, let me see, let me see
Speaker 2: what happened? Man?
Speaker 1: Look here, Hey, Cardinal's rookie Marvin Harrison Junior is being
Speaker 1: sued by fanatic. Marvin Harris Junior's marches to his own drum.
Speaker 1: There are higher limits of doing things his own way.
Speaker 1: One such limitation potentially comes from a contractual commitment he
Speaker 1: previously made a counselor of the conflict between Harrison Fanatic
Speaker 1: emerged after the draft, sparked by Harrison's failure to sign
Speaker 1: an NFL PA licensing deal that would allow Fanatics to
Speaker 1: sell his Cardinals jersey. It came to a head this
Speaker 1: weekend with Harrison not going to the NFL Rookie Premiere,
Speaker 1: and more significally, Fanatics sue and Harrison for breach of contract.
Speaker 2: Hey, you guys, I'm confused. I'm confused by this. Now
Speaker 2: if he signed the contract, you know what you're confused by? Okay? Okay,
Speaker 2: so he did sign it. Huh so he did sign it.
Speaker 2: It's hard for me.
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to believe that he didn't sign it,
Speaker 1: and this company is suing him, damn, because it's gonna
Speaker 1: be easy to prove one way or another, right, Doug.
Speaker 2: That sick that signature?
Speaker 1: What dollar Bill said, he told what he tells Blue.
Speaker 1: I got a contract betwixt me and you to say,
Speaker 1: you do what I tell.
Speaker 2: You to do. So get on. So how do you
Speaker 2: how do you how do you resolve the issue? I've
Speaker 2: obviously I've never been in this issue.
Speaker 5: I've never heard of fanatics or any company actually suing
Speaker 5: the player for reach your contract.
Speaker 2: When it comes to them.
Speaker 5: Wanting to sell your memorabilia, obviously, they want to be
Speaker 5: able to make money off you.
Speaker 1: And like when you said, O Joe, it was just
Speaker 1: like we were the member of the n f l
Speaker 1: p A. The n f l p A could sell
Speaker 1: our jerseys, that can sell our cars, they can sell
Speaker 1: our likeness because we signed.
Speaker 2: The contract, right and we get once once you signed
Speaker 2: that contract, you can't back out of it. I get it.
Speaker 1: He marched to his own beat. He didn't go to
Speaker 1: the combine. He didn't have a pro day. He said,
Speaker 1: my tape speak for himself. All that's finding good. Once
Speaker 1: you put your name on that dotted line, it's a
Speaker 1: whole A Hey this here you see you know what
Speaker 1: you know what contracts used to mean. A contract was
Speaker 1: a meeting of the minds. There was no signature required.
Speaker 1: Dub had you know what, Dub Dub had live stock,
Speaker 1: I had produce Dub, and I make a Hey, Dub,
Speaker 1: I tell you what. For a couple of pigs and
Speaker 1: a couple of cattle, I'm gonna give you grain. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you produce. Okay, I get Dub livestock. I
Speaker 1: don't all of a sudden, I don't want to give
Speaker 1: him no grain or no produce. Now we already had
Speaker 1: a meeting of the mind.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: But see now I gotta get it on paper, because
Speaker 1: once I put it on that eight by ten.
Speaker 2: You can't get out of that. Hold on, hold on,
Speaker 2: hold on, guy, just let me get this brother, judge, Judy.
Speaker 1: Right here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, once it's on here, I don't care where I
Speaker 2: was under the rest, and I was.
Speaker 6: Under just like them freeing ups. You got gonna make
Speaker 6: them sign on. Oh yeah, you now you You said
Speaker 6: you get thirty million?
Speaker 2: You know you dollar?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, yeah. Hey.
Speaker 1: I told my homeboy, I said, man, you signed the
Speaker 1: pre up. He said no, Man, homeboy, I ain't got nothing.
Speaker 1: I say, see, you should have signed the prenup because
Speaker 1: you want all of your nothing, Because if you getting
Speaker 1: the boys you're gonna get fifty percent of your nothing.
Speaker 2: So now you're only fifty percent of what you was
Speaker 2: when you came to the marriage. Now you see now,
Speaker 2: you see how you talking on? Now? You told me,
Speaker 2: but not for real.
Speaker 5: Sign Hey brother, I'm listen. My old lady makes more
Speaker 5: money than me. She got a little bit more money
Speaker 5: than me. And I'm just And I told hunk, listen,
Speaker 5: I'm trying to protect myself. I want to live the
Speaker 5: same like that live now in case he just tide
Speaker 5: to leave, I ain't signing ship because when you leave,
Speaker 5: I won't half ship. I want to still be a
Speaker 5: stay at home father when you go. You know how
Speaker 5: women are, man, One day they love you Monday, and
Speaker 5: on Friday they don't feel the same.
Speaker 2: No more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she will love you. They got somebody to love you.
Speaker 4: My girl, she on me and cried with me, so.
Speaker 2: Right hold on, she tried hold your.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you pat me off. That's gonna be okay, man,
Speaker 4: you're gonna follow me.
Speaker 2: Damn, I have to.
Speaker 6: I have to stay there cause my mama said I
Speaker 6: couldn't come back over, so I get stuck it out.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's cool, that's cool. That's cool. Hey, listen, forget,
Speaker 2: forgive and forget, forgive and forget. Y'all are good. Little therapy,
Speaker 2: little therapy.
Speaker 6: I had to wait till I got my income money,
Speaker 6: then got burnt. But I got my taxes.
Speaker 2: I was out of Are you left?
Speaker 4: Yes? She let me carry the kids on my income.
Speaker 4: I got go follow her after I got that seven thousand.
Speaker 4: Tell me I don't need you now, come.
Speaker 5: On, I get my own place and you can't come
Speaker 5: all funny. Hey, but I understand. I understand what Martin
Speaker 5: Harrison Jr. Was trying to do, right, I know, I
Speaker 5: know what he was trying to do. I think he
Speaker 5: probably signed I think he doesn't even realize he signed it,
Speaker 5: and probably signed it a little earlier, and he an
Speaker 5: he suspects, don't. I think he wanted to make the
Speaker 5: bulk of the money. He wanted to make the bulk
Speaker 5: of the money instead of get the small percentage.
Speaker 2: O Joe, Where's you're gonna go? Fanatics own damn near everything?
Speaker 2: Every where you're gonna go.
Speaker 1: How you gonna get your how you're gonna get your jersey?
Speaker 1: How you gonna sell your jersey?
Speaker 5: I don't know, the same way, the same way, the
Speaker 5: same way we sell our of stuff. Maybe he could
Speaker 5: be the first. Maybe maybe he could be the first
Speaker 5: to do it.
Speaker 1: Shoe, Oh, Joe, we own night Cap, he don't own
Speaker 1: the NFL.
Speaker 2: What the hell you talking about your team? I know,
Speaker 2: I don't know, Angerer, I listen, I listen. I don't
Speaker 2: know what angle he was trying to do.
Speaker 5: I'm sure there's something, there's a reason that there's a
Speaker 5: mastermind behind what he was trying to do.
Speaker 2: I think he just signed a little too early and
Speaker 2: he had other plans, that's all.
Speaker 1: You know what happens on Joe. A lot of times
Speaker 1: where people got caught up at early on. They were
Speaker 1: signing with the agents. They were getting that money. Okay,
Speaker 1: give me one hundred thousand, and then they wanted to
Speaker 1: go sign with another agent. Well, you already put your
Speaker 1: name in the contract. You gotta pay that hundred thousand pack.
Speaker 2: You can go somewhere else. But you got an eight
Speaker 2: or a lot of times guys, I want a new agent.
Speaker 1: Well, as long as you under that contract that he negotiated,
Speaker 1: he gonna get that three four five percent that he negotiating. YEA,
Speaker 1: once you do a new contract, it's off the table.
Speaker 1: But he gonna And that's why I get Oh, I
Speaker 1: got me a new agent. Bro, you just signed the contract.
Speaker 1: You know he's still gonna get paid on that.
Speaker 2: He gota care.
Speaker 1: I sometimes, you know, I don't think guys understand how
Speaker 1: that worked. Just because you fire him, that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: he's still not entitled to the contract that he negotiated
Speaker 1: for you. But hopefully hopefully it works out. Like I said,
Speaker 1: we don't know the gist of it. It just seems
Speaker 1: to me that he probably and probably what happened on
Speaker 1: Joe because he was a big name, they probably gave
Speaker 1: him some money upfront, you think. So, yeah, man, you
Speaker 1: know them how them them top them top rookies come out,
Speaker 1: they already une signing cards. Yeah, they already they un
Speaker 1: signed them, so they already get They probably got one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand, two hundred thousand dollars before you got any money.
Speaker 2: So that's how you get them nice shiny road.
Speaker 1: That's how you get the aps and the potent and
Speaker 1: you wearing Lewis and them customs. What ain't working at
Speaker 1: oh Joe? What job they had from the end of
Speaker 1: the back football season to the to the draft?
Speaker 2: Right? We know that that the N I L N
Speaker 2: I L. Everybody got no N I L. That's true.
Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, we understand Jane Daniels, We understand, uh uh
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. But everybody. I'm sure Marvin Harrison had one.
Speaker 1: But guess what, Yeah, we were, dub we were the
Speaker 1: last time you heard the person say I got too
Speaker 1: much money. You hear people say I got too many cars,
Speaker 1: I got too many homes, I got too many prayers
Speaker 1: of shoes, too many clothes. I ain't never heard the
Speaker 1: person say I got too much money, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: even with the n IL deal. Hold on, all I
Speaker 1: need to do is sign like a thousand cards and
Speaker 1: you're gonna give me two in a quarter of a meal.
Speaker 2: Some things on over here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, hey, I've been one time, like my second year,
Speaker 1: I signed like three thousand cards for.
Speaker 2: Like fifteen grand, three thousand and fifteen. Yeah. I wasn't
Speaker 2: getting no rep job, bro. I was a special team player,
Speaker 2: my bad man. I was.
Speaker 1: I wasn't what I became bo joke, Okay, hitting um yay,
Speaker 1: fifteen grand and you gotta think about it, old show,
Speaker 1: I was only making seventy three right, what that's a
Speaker 1: fifth of bout sellar you.
Speaker 2: You do, you do? I just did a signing last week.
Speaker 2: You still do signings and no?
Speaker 1: I do one?
Speaker 2: I did one. I did one. I think was that?
Speaker 4: What was that?
Speaker 2: Did we go? Did you go with me to DC?
Speaker 2: Did you go me to you didn't go to me
Speaker 2: to DC? To that Saturday?
Speaker 1: I went by myself. I do one to buy every
Speaker 1: four to five years.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's okay.
Speaker 5: There's a big one coming up in July where everybody
Speaker 5: gonna be at all the NBA players from back in
Speaker 5: the day Robin, all of the baseball players, all the
Speaker 5: legendary NFL Hall of Fame players is coming up in July.
Speaker 5: Dude told me to ask you if you want to
Speaker 5: do it out in Cleveland, because I just did a
Speaker 5: small one for Light for Light eighty ball, Light eighty Ball.
Speaker 2: I think Monday. It might have been Monday Monday last week,
Speaker 2: and he told me to ask you.
Speaker 5: I said, I don't know how Shannon works in operations
Speaker 5: when it comes to doing signings.
Speaker 1: But tell them about I appreciate it. I appreciate the invite,
Speaker 1: but but priud of that, Oh Joe. The last one
Speaker 1: I did, I did one in twenty nineteen. I just
Speaker 1: did one this year. Prior to the one in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: I think the last time I did it probably was
Speaker 1: two thousand and four, two thousand.
Speaker 2: I like how you spaced it out. I know it
Speaker 2: doing that. I know you're thinking, you think you're slick.
Speaker 2: I know what you're doing now, okay.
Speaker 1: And most of them, most of most of the time,
Speaker 1: I do it in private. So you know, you have
Speaker 1: the people that want the jerseys and oh you know,
Speaker 1: you want the special things, say uncle's club shape shape,
Speaker 1: and so most of them is done in private. And
Speaker 1: then you have the public side of the people. You know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they have the tickets and you pull the tickets. It's
Speaker 1: over the song.
Speaker 2: But nah, nah, but tell them thank you. I really
Speaker 2: really appreciate that.
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Speaker 2: As a rookie.
Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen, Jakobe Brissett played for the Patriots under
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. In twenty twenty four, Broset's back with the Patriots,
Speaker 1: playing for the second time with Jared Mayo. Grid Mayo,
Speaker 1: excuse me, the vibe is different. Brissette says he appreciate
Speaker 1: how much Mayo wants the players. Wants the players to
Speaker 1: be themselves, run the team and take ownership. He brings
Speaker 1: a lot of good energy. The cool thing is you
Speaker 1: can tell he's trying to make the players on the
Speaker 1: team run the team. Obviously he's the head coach and
Speaker 1: sets the standard, but he's definitely put a lot of
Speaker 1: responsibility on us, the players, and I like it. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna start with you, Oh Joe, what you think.
Speaker 2: I mean, It's cool, It's cool.
Speaker 5: I think the first the first thing he said that
Speaker 5: I like is he allows the players to beat themselves.
Speaker 5: I think there's something that players that have played in
Speaker 5: the Winland for many, many years have known. They had
Speaker 5: this thing called the Patriotway where you really had to
Speaker 5: you really just really couldn't be yourself. There are a
Speaker 5: few players that were themselves. Obviously Tom had to ask
Speaker 5: himself and not not be exactly who was. Gronk is
Speaker 5: one of the few, along with Aaron Hernandez, who were
Speaker 5: truly themselves and were able to get away with it.
Speaker 2: Because himsel Yeah, straight up, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I'm talk about own the field, man, I'm talking about
Speaker 2: own the field. Gronk was able to be himself.
Speaker 5: Obviously, you didn't see who Tom Brady truly was until
Speaker 5: he got the goddamn Tampa and the personality showed up.
Speaker 5: He created a Twitter account and you found out how
Speaker 5: funny he was and how much he liked to engage
Speaker 5: in creating content and I think drawing me. Allowing the
Speaker 5: players to be themselves first and then be football players,
Speaker 5: it would make things that much better and that much
Speaker 5: more welcoming for other players to want to come and
Speaker 5: play for him in New England.
Speaker 6: Cob bri your cover Brits that full of shit he
Speaker 6: gets trying to start get another big contract.
Speaker 4: That's he gonna say all the right things and and
Speaker 4: this and that.
Speaker 6: Never unless though, I do think Girod Mayo gonna be
Speaker 6: a great head coach. I really do, like y'all say
Speaker 6: he come up fund the bill billychick hes gonna be great.
Speaker 6: I mean, you always want to uh a coach that
Speaker 6: allow you could be yourself. It's twenty twenty four, man,
Speaker 6: you have to adapt. These are young, rich young men
Speaker 6: to Rob Mayo ain't too much older than the young
Speaker 6: man at that so he has to get on that level.
Speaker 6: You know, you have to come in and win over
Speaker 6: that locker room. Like I say, it used to be
Speaker 6: a Billichick waite, now it's gonna be a Gerard Mayo way.
Speaker 6: And he come into the right situation with Robert Craft.
Speaker 6: Even though I think things might not go great for
Speaker 6: New England. Maybe the first two years he ain't gonna
Speaker 6: get fired. I'm just thrown throw that got that he's
Speaker 6: gonna be okay. But the third season, if they ain't winning,
Speaker 6: I can see him getting up out of there. But
Speaker 6: Jacoby Bridge said they had a couple good years with
Speaker 6: the coach as well.
Speaker 4: I think I think he's they'll be okay.
Speaker 6: I don't really uh for see them being the old
Speaker 6: Patriots of old get the cause they got Girib Mayo,
Speaker 6: somebody up on the Bill Belichick tree. But I get personally,
Speaker 6: I just think Jacoby Bridge he just fo shit.
Speaker 4: Ma. He's saying everything he can say.
Speaker 2: Man, you know what I don't like, O Joe. I'll
Speaker 2: be all the way canded with you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, they have a lot of players pooping on Coach Belichick.
Speaker 1: And they wasn't saying nothing when they was winning the rings.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody had no way. Hey, nobody had no problem
Speaker 1: with not being able to beat themselves as long as
Speaker 1: they winning them rings. Now all of a sudden, Coach
Speaker 1: Belichick gone because you wasn't he there in twenty sixteen? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know what he ended up What did that
Speaker 1: he ended up starting the game for when Tom Brady
Speaker 1: was suspended.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he didn't say anything bad. Though, he ain't say
Speaker 5: anything bad. I'm just listen, UNC. You really couldn't be yourself.
Speaker 5: You really couldn't be.
Speaker 2: Really be who you truly are when you were there.
Speaker 2: I mean, just how dare you're gonna be?
Speaker 1: You? The third quarterback? Who the hell you trying to
Speaker 1: be Yeah, because he realized who he was when he
Speaker 1: was there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't think he was trying to say
Speaker 2: anything bad about Belichick.
Speaker 5: I think there's there's a sense of freedom, there's a
Speaker 5: sense of you know what, I don't have to walk
Speaker 5: on eggshells around around here where everybody's expendable.
Speaker 2: Well doing them days, everybody was expendable.
Speaker 1: Everybody they still expendable. They still expendable. Yeah, they got
Speaker 1: rid of Tall, you don't think they'll get rid of
Speaker 1: their ass. They cut Jaiir, right, they cut Joe Montana,
Speaker 1: they cut em and Smith, they cut they was about
Speaker 1: to cut Troy Aikman, Michael Levitt, Bruce and Thomas.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but even even more so back then, even more
Speaker 5: so back then, because they could they could put they
Speaker 5: can plug and pull and put pull pieces off the
Speaker 5: goddamn street. And things were gonna work because they had
Speaker 5: that number twelve as a centerpiece and no matter who
Speaker 5: you put around him, he was gonna make it work,
Speaker 5: no matter what.
Speaker 2: So that that's what I mean, a little bit more.
Speaker 5: Expendable, and people were walking on eggshells and and really
Speaker 5: didn't want to do anything wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Look, look I understand it had been very difficult. Here
Speaker 1: is the thing, oh Joe, if you go into a
Speaker 1: situation like that and that's all you know. Yeah, because see,
Speaker 1: like if you got a parent, Doubb and you could
Speaker 1: tested this. If you got a parent that's disciplined and
Speaker 1: you go somewhere else that requires discipline, it's nothing to you.
Speaker 1: It's when you go somewhere and if there is no structure,
Speaker 1: when you're used to structure. See if you if I were,
Speaker 1: if I had to join the military, the military would
Speaker 1: have been anything to me because I've come from a
Speaker 1: structured family. I'm used to putting stuff away. I'm used
Speaker 1: to being on time. I'm used to having someone to
Speaker 1: when I'm wrong, to correct me and correct me in
Speaker 1: a tone that they're like, Okay, this can't happen, or
Speaker 1: as Colonel Jessup said, people die, not to that extent.
Speaker 1: But I understand. It's like coming in under Coach Reeves.
Speaker 1: Coach Reeves was a coach Tom Lander disciple, there's only
Speaker 1: one way to do it.
Speaker 2: That was his way. Yeah, after that, everything else was
Speaker 2: a piece of cake.
Speaker 1: Now had I came from Mike Shanahan who we had
Speaker 1: helmets and T shirts on Friday.
Speaker 2: We only put the paths on for about fourteen plays
Speaker 2: during the week and then go to coach Reeves. Oh
Speaker 2: hell noah.
Speaker 1: But when we putting people on the ground on nine
Speaker 1: o seven during the week, you could deal with anything
Speaker 1: after that. So if you got drafted, it probably was
Speaker 1: a shock to you because it was different in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Had you gotten drafted to the Patriots, that had been
Speaker 1: been second nature to you, because that's all you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it wasn't It wasn't a problem
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 5: But I just knew once I got there because introducing
Speaker 5: myself to Bill, it was hello, welcome to the Patriots.
Speaker 5: You know, you're gonna have to change who you are
Speaker 5: to be here. So I understand what that meant. So
Speaker 5: those are the words verbatim that was said to me.
Speaker 5: So that's why I say, for god damn, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: have to just be a shell of myself and nothing
Speaker 5: like I was in Cincinnati because that ain't part of
Speaker 5: the Patriot way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that that's that's why I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So you say New England didn't get the full each other,
Speaker 4: it's what you say.
Speaker 2: Ain't even get ojo they got. They got Chad Johnson.
Speaker 2: Yeah shit, they ain't even get that.
Speaker 5: They got I don't know who the hell that motherfucker
Speaker 5: was that played for Patriot, That that nigga, that was
Speaker 5: Shiitt fuck.
Speaker 1: And I see and it was it was the total opposite.
Speaker 1: When I got to Baltimore, Ozzie, did you and a
Speaker 1: manager says, hey, be you, Yeah, I will, Hey, I will.
Speaker 2: I want the Shannon that I saw in Denver for
Speaker 2: all those years.
Speaker 1: Art Modell told rest his soul told me the same thing, Brian, Brian,
Speaker 1: Billy told me the exact same thing.
Speaker 2: Be you. Now it's different.
Speaker 1: I mean it's easy to say, but you know, o yallman,
Speaker 1: you going in you know, yeah, you meet friends and
Speaker 1: you joke a little bit, but it's not the same.
Speaker 1: Because I had ten years in Denver and I kind
Speaker 1: of grew and I kind of grew into the role,
Speaker 1: it was kind of a little difficult, difficult for me to.
Speaker 2: Come in there and try to like dat. So I
Speaker 2: just went about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had fun, told a few jokes, but my
Speaker 1: thing was see how I work out in the weight room,
Speaker 1: see how I practice, see how I eat, And that
Speaker 1: was that was kind of like being who I was yeah.
Speaker 2: Did we tell jokes that we have fun doing stretching? Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: But I can understand what you're saying when you've been
Speaker 1: a certain way and then all of a sudden you
Speaker 1: have to hell who you are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that would be tough. That'll be tough. Yeah.
Speaker 6: See, that's why I don't like what you get said
Speaker 6: when you're talking about be who you are.
Speaker 4: It's just like when I got with.
Speaker 6: My ex right before I got well, but she was
Speaker 6: a jump off. Then when she get with me, she
Speaker 6: wants to be a queen. I fell in love with
Speaker 6: the jumping on, not just somebody who want to be
Speaker 6: a queen. Man, I don't know this person right here,
Speaker 6: I'm all on your ownly fans.
Speaker 4: I'm loving what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, I get the sat man, be
Speaker 4: who you are.
Speaker 1: But Doug, you're supposed to take her from a life
Speaker 1: or that you rescue the queen. You went to all
Speaker 1: the because you remember now you climbed the tower. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you climbed the tower, the rescuer.
Speaker 4: I was advertising I'm doing all this and that when
Speaker 4: the other players didn't.
Speaker 2: Have to do all that. No, yeah, yeah, we've all
Speaker 2: been there. We've all been there.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you know I'm saying, you think
Speaker 1: you know I know, you know that, I know I
Speaker 1: know that you'll know that I know what you're about.
Speaker 2: But now, all of a sudden, you want to go
Speaker 2: out to dinner.
Speaker 5: Y'all?
Speaker 2: How you why you?
Speaker 1: I used to ask why you want to be seen
Speaker 1: with me? You never required that to nobody else. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm different. They know who to play them games with.
Speaker 1: I'm different, No, don't. I don't want to be different.
Speaker 1: I want to be just like them. You know. I
Speaker 1: want to pay the water bill because the only thing
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do is wash my mass here. That's the
Speaker 1: only thing I do with due. I ain't got nothing.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna put no food and refrigerator. I ain't
Speaker 1: buy no furniture I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2: I got one hundred.
Speaker 4: I got to stamp.
Speaker 2: Don't about I got to I got to.
Speaker 4: I ain't got nothing else.
Speaker 1: I got the y'all.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, but you, but you're right, doun that that
Speaker 2: man is you kill me with that. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: you different. You know I can see myself with you? No, yeah,
Speaker 2: yourself with me?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're not the fun guy. You're not the fun guy.
Speaker 5: If you were the fun guy, then they conduct themselves
Speaker 5: as such.
Speaker 2: Everybody want to you.
Speaker 5: You're a serious person that they see themselves with long term,
Speaker 5: like the fun guy, or they're gonna let the fun
Speaker 5: guy have fun, do whatever they want.
Speaker 2: Hit marsh night.
Speaker 5: You ain't gotta go nowhere. You ain't gotta be seen
Speaker 5: with her now you you are. You are a future
Speaker 5: husband to women in their eyes.
Speaker 1: Back in the day, long term with me with five hours,
Speaker 1: that what I got. I don't know you talk about
Speaker 1: long term. I'm a tempt Hey, you're giving them too much.
Speaker 4: Hey, I didn't want you. Damn.
Speaker 1: I've spent two hours come up, coming from out of town,
Speaker 1: so I ain't got the three.
Speaker 2: Oh no, but what I'm saying up the collar on
Speaker 2: now that's all.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm a jimp. I ain't no permanent I'm a
Speaker 1: TYMP agency. Come in, I'm gonna work a couple of
Speaker 1: hours a week, and you're.
Speaker 2: Growing up there, you're out of there. I guess I
Speaker 2: guess you
Speaker 5: The volume