WEBVTT - Wendie Malick 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.360 The Fancy Rascal Tour is just me, Craig Ferguson. I'm 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:05.720 the only performer. There's no opener. How are you going 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:08.920 to do that, Craig, Well, I'll suck for the first 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.000 twenty minutes and charge myself a grant so we get 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:16.960 the full effect. Anyway, this weekend I'm hitting the following places. Northampton, Massachusetts, 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:21.680 Foxwood's Casino in Connecticut, Boston, Massachusetts. Two shows at the 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:25.080 Wilburg this weekend August seventh through August ninth. Get your 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:29.680 tickets now that Craig fergusonchoo dot com slash car or don't. 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:35.360 My name is Craig Ferguson. This podcast is called Joy. 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:39.120 It's not Rocket Science. I talk to people I like 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:45.960 about their pursuit of happiness. Here's Wendy Malick, a beloved 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:49.479 American actress who, amongst other things, is the voice of 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:51.040 O Jack Horsefleso. 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:55.400 She's one of my classier friends. Enjoy. 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:00.560 Hey, I haven't seen you since I was the Owl 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:04.280 House on the Disney Channel. 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:06.920 Or did you catch it before it ended? Did it 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:10.680 end sadly? Yes, it was canceled. I think Disney got 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.600 nervous because we had a girl kissing a girl on 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:14.120 that show. 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:16.520 That's some of my favorite stuff is girl. 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:23.000 Why did they not want that because Disney could use that, 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:23.440 could they? 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:26.280 Well? I think Disney could could branch out a little more. 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:28.319 As you are, are they making any money? 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.039 I think they've lost money recently, have they really? 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:33.720 I think they could probably lose a little bit and 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:36.200 be okay. I was just talking to someone of that 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:41.400 this morning. Like, you're famously immensely wealthy, right, I don't 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:44.280 have a castle? Well, the castle I live in, to 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.600 be fair, it. 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:49.480 Needs to be totally replumbed. 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.840 Well no, well yeah they do. But also you know 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:54.920 you couldn't get an apartment in New York. 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:55.680 For the price of my castle. 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:56.880 Well that's true. 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:59.080 Yeah, so it's not. 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:00.760 A lot of space there in Scotland. 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.320 Yeah, I like a lot of like very people. You 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:07.040 live in a land, though, how many how much land 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:07.360 do you have? 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:08.520 Your fifty acres? 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:09.880 That's plenty, that's fine. 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.800 It's a lot for here, although it's almost entirely unusable, 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:15.480 very very steep up and down? 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.040 Is it fiery? Do you get fires near your house? 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:22.040 Is it fiery? It's it's vulnerable to fires? Yeah, because 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:25.840 we abut the state park. Okay, so we have a 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:28.480 lot of fuel out there, and our nearest neighbor is 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:29.400 a quarter mile away. 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:31.840 So yeah, have you been affected by the fires. 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.399 Of course, I think everybody here is. And you've got 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:36.800 horses too, do I make Do you have a horse transport? 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.280 Thing have a horse? We have a two horse trailer, 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:40.839 which doesn't do you much good if you have four 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:42.200 horses and a donkey. 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:44.519 Now do you have four horses and a donkey? Or 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:45.120 three horses? 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:47.880 Now we have three? I forgot okay. 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:49.880 Because I thought, wait a minute, you told me. 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:53.799 We have three and a half animals. And you've always 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.959 been a horsey person. No, No, I mean I lived 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.040 in New York for seventeen years before I moved here, 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:01.480 and as a kid, I did those trail rides where 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.120 the only time you go fast is when you're on 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:07.000 the way back to the bar. Yeah, they're barely a 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:08.000 person in front of you. 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:11.160 It's kind of in the Hollywood Hills. 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:12.240 Oh my god. 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.440 So when you see people you walk up the hills, 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:17.760 you see people in the bike, they're just like that. 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:21.440 You can dress it up, but you can't teach him 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.720 how to ride. No. I didn't start until I was 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:26.239 forty when I moved to to Panga. 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:27.560 I think that. 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.640 First of all, I'm surprised to hear that you're over forty, 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:31.720 and also. 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.960 Yeah, I'm older than you are. No, you have to 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:36.440 show me some respect. 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.280 Really, are you? You know me? I'm not going to 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.520 ask you, but you're nobody thinks. 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:43.200 So, I think so. No, I am definitely in my 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:45.000 third act, well into my third act. 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:46.360 Do you worry about it? 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:47.720 What are you going to do? 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:48.680 Well? 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:52.160 I know, but I but worry is something that you 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:55.160 do you even if you there is nothing to do, like. 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:57.240 I That's why I keep busy, so I don't have 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:59.360 time to, like, you know, worry too much. 0:03:59.920 --> 0:04:02.040 You do like you go out and clean the horses 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:02.560 and stuff. 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:03.400 That's part of it. 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:04.880 Yeah, my wife does that. 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:06.880 Well. I hate to meet your wife. 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:07.720 Yeah you do. 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:12.640 I think that shoveling ship is a very relaxing zen exercise. 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:17.719 Yeah, I've never found it particularly appealing whenever I've had 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:18.200 to do it. 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:19.839 Do you have dogs as well? Yes? 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:20.920 What kind of dogs? 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:21.480 Now? 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:25.240 We have a shepherd. I think she's a what does 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:30.320 she called the melt malono? Yeah, yeah, Melani. She's a 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:34.320 rescue but she's like a greyhound shepherd mixed. She's really fast, 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.920 has a long, thin tail, really long legs. Yeah, kind 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:39.839 of like you, A little bit kind of like me. Actually, 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:41.760 we do look alike a picture later. 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:45.400 Normally, I mean, I would never say you wear a melon. 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:50.320 Wow. But if I had the long face, yeah I was. 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:52.600 If I was, you know, looking for a voice of 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.320 a Malon, wir would be me and a cartoon I 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:58.360 was doing, I'd be like, I wonder if Wendy's available, 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:01.560 because she's got totally doing I think I should. Yeah, 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:03.520 So have you been doing a lot of that cartoon 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:07.760 voicey stuff? Yeah? Did you have very a very sexy voice? Yeah, 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:09.720 I do, Yeah, you do right now. 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:12.600 Sexy voice. It's it's low. 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.880 Actually. Lauras Sandracomo years ago said, did you ever do 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.400 you know voiceovers or do cartoons stuff like that? And 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.240 and I thought, you know, I did some commercials when 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:25.680 I was starting out in New York and figured, well, 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.320 I don't have to do those anymore. I think I'm 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:29.440 going to bag it. And she said, no, you really should. 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:31.599 They're really kind of fun. And I got this great 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.880 Cadillac commercial right out of the box and started doing 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:38.280 animated stuff and I love it. I love to just 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.440 work with my voice. Yeah, it's nice. I like doing it. 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.000 I mean some of it is just a lot of 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:44.640 screaming and stupid. 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.080 When they call it walla when you have to go. 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:54.080 I don't really to bring people in to do your own. No, 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:57.479 I don't. But some of them are way more fun 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.479 than others. I mean, for me, BoJack Horse and I 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:02.040 played his mother. I know that. 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:05.000 To me, that's the greatest animated series. 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:07.520 I think it's so brilliant and the art direction is 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.200 so insanely good, and you can watch them three or 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:16.120 four times and see new stuff. It's so densely animated 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:19.480 and gorgeous and funny and heartbreaking. And they gave me 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.520 this amazing thing to do in the last season where 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:24.880 you found out why I was such a witch. 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.279 Yeah, you were evil. You were an evil character. 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:28.680 And I had a horrible childhood. 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.159 Yeah, and you personally didn't have a horrible. 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:33.919 No, I had a really good one. Yeah. 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.000 That's weird that you would become a performer and a 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:39.320 successful performer and have a happy childhood. I don't think 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:40.080 that's common. 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.039 Betty White did. Yeah, that's true. 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:45.760 But when Betty, I mean Betty who we both knew 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:46.279 and loved. 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.680 But when Betty was a child, you know, it was 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.680 a different time. There were like they'd just come up 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:52.320 with a wheel. 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:56.480 They just they just came up with television, that's for sure. 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.360 Well they actually hadn't, because I remember right, and she 0:06:59.920 --> 0:07:04.800 was doing radio still in theater before TV predated television. 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:05.440 That's true. 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:07.000 I met because I was so sad. 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.720 Well, obviously when Betty passed, it was very sad. 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:12.440 But she loved you too, Oh, I ado order. 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:14.120 You know, she was the first person I worked with 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:15.040 when I came to Hollywood. 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:15.640 You're kidding. 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:19.160 Yeah, she had just come off the Golden Palace, which 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:20.080 was the one after. 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:20.800 The Golden Girls. 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:21.680 God I missed that. 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:26.920 Yeah, it wasn't the was the worst thing she did, 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:28.720 because the worst thing she did was the one she 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:30.080 did after the Golden Palace. 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:31.280 Yeah. 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.920 It was a show called Maybe This Time Maybe it 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:35.880 was Me, Betty White, Marie Osmond. 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.320 Oh my, yeah, but you know. 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.560 What, you know, in my wildest dreams, I can't imagine 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:42.160 that cast. 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.640 You know. Actually, both of those women, I loved them 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.320 both and I still do. They were both great to me. 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.960 They were both fabulous. Marie had some personal stuff that 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.800 I don't connect to in the same way religiony wise, 0:07:56.880 --> 0:08:01.400 but religion, Yeah, religion. It's very earthy, kind of like 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:03.720 funny person. And Betty, of course is that's forcing it. 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:06.040 How long did you guys do Hot in Cleveland? 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.600 I think it was six years. 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:10.600 God, that was a great show to do. 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:16.080 It was such a gift and so utterly unexpected. Yeah, 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.960 you know, for well, you realize you look around in 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:23.440 how many series are anchored by women over fifty? Yeah, 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:28.320 I guess, and we were like fifty sixty ninety Yeah, 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:29.200 so pretty crazy. 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:32.120 It was the best smelling set I've ever been out 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:32.600 of my life. 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:33.800 There was that kind of when you. 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.400 Like there was lavender near Betty and then there was 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:37.840 the more exotic perfumes. 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:39.280 It was you in Valerie Dan. 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:41.040 Mine was Egyptian must oh. 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.319 I know you are Egyptian, right, or you are Egyptian 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:46.840 heritage a quarter that I think that's fascinating. 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:49.079 Have you been to Egypt? No? And I was invited 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.520 by my grandfather, but he was a Pentecostal minister and 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.480 way too strict, so I didn't go with him, right, 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:58.160 But I do need to. I've been to Africa many times. 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.559 But never to Egypt. I'd like to go to Perhaps 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:01.920 we could go together, maybe we'll go. 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.599 Well, Megan is the name of the women I'm married to, 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.839 so I've heard right. So Meghan and I were talking 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:10.040 about maybe doing a Nile cruise. 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.640 I know, I think that would be really fascinating. 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:14.680 Does this fact you go down then Isle and you 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:16.839 kind of see the pyramids and stuff, but you're still 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:17.440 on your own. 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:21.080 Little bit can touch you or talk to you. 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:23.560 Yeah, I see, exact quite like that. I'm not good 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:28.080 at mixing. I. 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:30.840 Craig Ferguson will be hitting the road again this summer 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:34.280 and fall, bringing the Fancy Rascal Tour to your region. 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:36.880 For tickets and full list of tour dates, go to 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:40.320 my website, the Craig Ferguson Show dot com slash tour. 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:50.920 Come see me live or don't so listen. You started 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:55.480 out in Buffalo, is that right? You're from Buffalo, which 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:57.840 is almost Canadian? Are you okay with that? 0:09:58.240 --> 0:09:58.520 Yep? 0:09:58.840 --> 0:09:59.000 Right? 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:02.040 Okay? Oh yeah? Did you go up to Canada every summer? 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:05.040 Were you? Summer? We had a summer house on Lake Erie. 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:06.679 See, so you were well Ontario? 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.000 You're well, no, no, no, I grew up in a very 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:12.840 middle class family my grandparents. My grandfather did quite well 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:14.600 and was able to retire early. 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:17.000 And they built this is the Pentecostal No, no, no, this is 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:17.559 the fun. 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.360 One, right. He had a hotel and restaurants, okay, And 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:22.560 they built that house the year I was born on 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:25.559 the beach and it was three sides of it were 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:29.600 a Carolinian forest and the front was was just sand 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:31.920 dunes going down to this beautiful beach and the water 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.120 was right there. And uh, do you have siblings, Yeah, 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:36.199 a brother and a sister. 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:38.559 So you guys were just swallows and amazons around. 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:40.880 Oh, you could just you could just be free all 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:45.280 day and play. And the woods. My mother always called 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.840 it a cathedral of trees, and that to this day 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:50.280 is kind of my church. Trees. 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:55.319 So you're not a Pentecostal, Coptic Christian or anything. 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.880 I'm a nature advocate. 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:01.200 Are you religious? 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:04.880 So no? No, but I would say spiritual. 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:08.040 Yeah, no, I just I rejected all of it for years. 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.360 But as I get older, I found myself hedging my 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:11.240 bets a little more. 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.960 So do you go to church? I built one near 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:14.520 the castle. 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:18.680 There was an old building in the place where I 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.439 live in Scotland and it was derelict and during the lockdown, 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:23.520 I did an event to do so I thought, I 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:25.839 think that was a church, and I'm going to put 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:26.200 it back. 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:28.240 So I went on YouTube and there's. 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:33.520 Very much I'm not religious at all, but I thought, 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.600 you know, it probably should be a church if there's 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:38.640 a if there was an old estate like this. 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.360 So I put it back and I you know, pain 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:43.280 do you go in and meditate? 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:44.520 And I do. 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.920 I'm not churchy, but I like, I don't invite other 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:52.120 people in. But I bought church pews from a place that, 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:54.360 you know, salvage yard. 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:55.439 Yeah. 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:58.000 The guys that were delivering it said, this isn't a bar. 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:01.520 I went no, I said, we've never delivered church pews 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.840 to a church before. They usually take them out of 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.959 churches and put them in bars. But I'd bought them 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:09.760 and I put them in and it looks just like 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:10.800 a little Scottish church. 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:12.640 I go, do you have stained glass windows? 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:16.000 No, we're we're from a different flavor where stained glass 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:16.760 windows are. 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:18.080 That's probably a little too. 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:20.920 Yeah, it's a little it's like, yeah, it's a little 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:21.800 imagery wise. 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:24.240 I mean they do it in Protestant churches. 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.760 They do, and actually I don't, but I will be 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:29.880 honest with you. I have ordered some the but just 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.400 tiny little ones like window pantes. It's not a giant 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:34.760 it's a tiny wee building pews. 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.160 Like a chapel. Yeah, oh no, I think you don't 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.800 think of doing that? In you what I do? If 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:43.720 I may share it with you, Yes, that's why I'm here. Yeah. 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:46.000 Have you ever been to Big Sir? Yes? 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:46.360 I have. 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:50.439 Okay, we we did a retreat there, a tai Chi retreat. 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:55.080 You I didn't. I mean I'd had a little training 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:56.960 that I didn't really know what I was doing. But 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.600 a year ago Thanksgiving, we went for a tai chi 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:05.080 retreat class thing with this Chinese master and one of 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:09.040 the things we did was this morning salutation to the sunrise, 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.840 and we'd all gather on this cliff and watch the 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:14.920 sun and come up behind the mountain. And he taught 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.400 us just some basic moves of welcoming the day. And 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.880 it's a it's a gratitude ritual. So I now do 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.080 that every morning, do you really? I do it when 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:26.720 I want my dog first thing, and when I'm out 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:29.760 just looking at the mountains and the beauty and I 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:32.520 sort of say thank you, and I take in energy 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.840 that I need and send out healing or forgiveness or 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:38.400 peace or whatever it is I want to sort of 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:42.040 send into the world and then gratitude for what remains, 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:46.760 including my own body. Well, it's not quite what it 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:47.200 used to be. 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:48.480 I don't know. I look. 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:52.360 I know that it's not allowed to comment on people's appearance, 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.360 but yours is spectacular. So you may say that, yeah, 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:57.719 well then it is, though I mean, but I. 0:13:57.679 --> 0:13:59.720 Mean things like you know, arthritis and you know the 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.120 I don't have a lot of cartilage, stuff like that. 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.480 It's just part of the deal. 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.959 Well, you because you started out, you were a model. 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.720 When you started, right you were doing modeling. Were you 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.760 very self conscious? Because whenever I've talked to Megan, my 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:14.719 wife did modeling when she was young as well. And 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:21.239 she's still young obviously but always always forever young. Yeah, 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.880 but she's quite she's very critical of herself. 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:25.160 Are you like that? 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.120 I certainly was when I started, because I knew what 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.560 my good side was. I just was, you know, very 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:34.880 self conscious about how to stand, how to move. You know, 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.200 my smile is crooked, which I'm really aware of. I 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:40.600 think there was a time. It's probably during dream On, 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.200 which was in nineteen ninety. I think we shot the 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:46.640 pilot right where I went from being the straight woman 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:50.560 for Brian ben Ben to being a real character actress, 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:53.760 like I was a neurotic psychologist and they found out 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:55.360 I was funny and they let me run with it. 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:59.080 And that was a huge gift because I didn't have 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:01.560 to be per effect. I didn't have to be angreen 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:04.200 new like and I never really was. I was always 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:05.120 sort of the. 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.920 Did you feel like? It was an overused word. But 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.080 the environment for models, I think is very tough. But 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:13.560 I don't know what it's like because I'm not a 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.800 modal and I never have beened. But whenever I talked 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:18.320 to male or female people who have done it, it's 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:22.520 a very kind of abusive almost environment that people are 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:24.080 so mean to do. 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:27.400 Well, and it's you know, there's nothing to back up this. 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.640 This is kind of what you've got to offer. So 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:34.200 no matter how interesting you are talented in other ways, 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.000 it really is all about your face and your body. 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:39.560 And when that's all you have to go on, you 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:41.000 can really lose your mind. 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.520 I think, yeah, I think, so, did you lose your mind? 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:45.720 When you were doing no, because I never started. I 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.960 mean I went to New York to act after college 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.880 and I was making like seventy five dollars a week 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.520 and having to waitress on the side, right, And someone 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.280 came up to me in Times Square and asked me 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.480 if I'd ever modeled, and I, wow, I've done that. 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.840 Okay, I think I think someone said that to me 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.160 once in Times Square and it went very. 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:07.360 Badly, and it was for a different kind of magazine. 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:10.600 He said, you should come meet. Well, I mean you 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.280 I wish I did. And I just took five years 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.800 because I wanted to travel. I have huge wander lust 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.680 and I couldn't afford to do it until I became 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:20.960 a model. So then I ended up living in Paris 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.080 for a year and I went all over the world 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.320 shooting because I got ten in a day because of 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:28.760 the Egyptian and I had a blast. But I knew 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:30.720 it was just for temporary, that I was going to 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:32.640 go back and go back to acting, which I did 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:34.560 in when I was thirty. 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.840 Right, So, because I guess model, it's kind of that 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:42.520 kind of thing to describe, and then certainly your career 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:43.600 is over as a model of. 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:45.080 It I mean, there are models out there that have 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.440 been doing it for twenty five years and they look amazing. 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:49.960 I think, no, it's a little different. I think you. 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:51.640 I mean you could model. You could do a modeling 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:52.520 campaign right now. 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:57.120 Road Hard and put Away No, although that is. 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:58.280 A good name for a brand. 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:00.040 I think road Hard. 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:05.160 You can put them away wet, they'll come out the next. 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:06.120 Day to the great. 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.119 So you went back to did you come to LA 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:11.800 after that then? Or you used to go back to me? 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.800 I went back to New York and was there until well, 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:18.359 my ex husband and I we had a place in 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:21.520 the village and were there from eighty two to eighty nine, 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:23.400 I guess, And we're going back and forth a lot. 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:27.200 He's a screenwriter. But then I got a job here 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:31.679 and a series, my first one in No Actually it 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:35.719 was called Trauma Center Doctor Bridget Blaine. 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:40.120 Oh my god, I waste I see Trauma Center. Is 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.440 they don't make enough of that kind of thing anymore? 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:45.560 Or maybe the time I had a mask on so 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.040 it was all about the eyes. Reminded me of all 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:51.920