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Speaker 1: Revel revelation.

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Speaker 2: Look at this now, timpto.

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Speaker 3: Jesus, Oh, using will be to It's time to bed.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, your Wednesday morning just got a lot better.

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Speaker 2: Welcome on into Morning Combat pre game preview for UFC

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Speaker 2: three fifteen.

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Speaker 4: Get fired up?

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Speaker 2: How are you on this Wednesday? May seventh, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 4: Luke Thomas, the MK co hostess with the most tests.

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Speaker 2: But we needed today, so we went to the bullpen.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. The grandson of a bootlegger.

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Speaker 2: It is from Uncrowned with Love, Sir Charles Mendenhall.

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Speaker 1: I like, I like that.

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Speaker 4: Wow, all right, Wow.

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Speaker 1: I've already made you call me sick. This is gonna

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Speaker 1: be a fun show.

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Speaker 4: Just a reminder for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Today's episode of Morning Combat, this very special episode to

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Speaker 2: get you fired up for Saturday's pay per view Return

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Speaker 2: to Montreal is presented by DraftKings, and of course with DraftKings,

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Speaker 2: the crown is yours. Uh, Luke Thomas, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you want to read the disclaimer this time around.

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Speaker 4: Maybe bring Chuck back.

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Speaker 2: Into the fold the folds, you know, if you will,

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Speaker 2: about what we expect from him in this episode. You

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Speaker 2: know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: This is ain't like the other.

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Speaker 1: Shows you do. This ain't like you know, you ever

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Speaker 1: like go out on your day and just like I

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Speaker 1: gotta do dumb shit today. That's what this about. I

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Speaker 1: can do that? Can you rise to the occasion?

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Speaker 2: This ain't your your dad's well, it probably is your

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Speaker 2: dad's favorite show actually because we're just so much old.

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Speaker 4: But this ain't your dad's regular UFC preview we expect.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any planted questions about the Ali Act

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Speaker 1: from Turkey to inject into this broadcast before.

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Speaker 2: Before we get into all things moll were now or

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Speaker 2: sorry Montreal as pronounce it, Chuck. You were one of

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Speaker 2: the invited special guests slash influencers, slash billionaires slashed ass liquors.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got loose there for a second.

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Speaker 2: No, you were seriously Times Square. You were ringside for

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Speaker 2: for h E's big splash and uh what you were

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Speaker 2: actually within the giant fences?

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Speaker 5: Are you.

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Speaker 1: Know? You were trapped in there. I could turn my

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Speaker 2: Well, they had your search into your hair search history

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Speaker 2: stretched out like they knew what was going on.

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Speaker 6: It was bad news, man, I mean fight you you

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Speaker 6: saw the fights, and really that's what it came down

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Speaker 6: to for me. All the rest of it was just

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Speaker 1: I don't know how I got in to the actual

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Speaker 1: perimeter because there are other writers there. As far as

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Speaker 1: I know, other.

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Speaker 6: Journalists and writers were in a restaurant hard rock, the

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Speaker 6: hard rock hard rock I was supposed to be from

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Speaker 6: what I understood at the Bubba Gump Shrimp.

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Speaker 2: But that's you and hard hit in Helan's were the

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Speaker 2: only journalists allowed with.

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Speaker 1: If I got a credential and it's like you can

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Speaker 1: set up shop in the hard rock I'm like, you

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Speaker 1: could set up shop on these nuts.

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Speaker 2: As Yeah, sure, all right, that is a I wasn't too.

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Speaker 6: Far from uh O Iron, Mike, Pat mcfeel all those

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Speaker 6: all your favorites were right there.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's incredible, I said.

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Speaker 1: I said next to Mike Tyson. When Rico Verhoven fought

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Speaker 1: in Glory in Norfolk, Virginia, he talked to me the

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Speaker 1: In fact, what happened was Rico was winning and we

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Speaker 2: In his old Italian accent, was pect you go, Chuck,

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Speaker 2: I do encourage our readers to check you out on

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Speaker 2: Uncrowned and among a bevy of fantastic pieces the one

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Speaker 2: you had on thank you Ryan's ball dropping the ball?

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Speaker 1: Should I read that famous quote from him?

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Speaker 2: No, no, we should.

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Speaker 4: This show will not be about Ryan Garcia.

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Speaker 2: But what this show will be about, guys, is obviously

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Speaker 2: the pay per view that goes down Saturday, UFC three

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Speaker 2: point fifteen in Montreal. Two title fights atop the fold

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Speaker 2: and the first title defense of that name that you

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Speaker 2: should remember, balal Muhammad. And by the way, this pregame preview,

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Speaker 2: Oh Get Fired Up, is brought to you by Quervo.

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Speaker 2: Now's a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila.

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Speaker 2: And when we say now, look, Thomas, I mean it's

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Speaker 2: eleven a m. Eastern somewhere. Okay, how about right here,

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Speaker 2: right now? There is no other place I'd rather be

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Speaker 2: right Jesus Jones, Chuck, we are going to.

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Speaker 1: Be sampling today like you're jumping in with the song

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Speaker 1: the Blanco.

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Speaker 2: The Blanco today.

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Speaker 4: All right, So let's get it, Luca.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have it. I have a mixer here, I'm

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Speaker 4: People often say, like, BC, do you guys actually enjoy Quervo?

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Speaker 1: We do this?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Do I do? I?

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Speaker 2: Unlike Luke Thomas, I'm Quervo no chaser on this bitch. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's what I'm talking.

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Speaker 1: You're also I mean, Mike Myers in fucking whatever movie

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Speaker 1: that was?

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Speaker 2: What what are you trying to say?

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Speaker 1: All the pepsi and then the pizza hut ads everywhere?

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Speaker 1: It's not so I married an next? Which one?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Wayne? Wayne's World? More? Wow? I mean, Chuck, what I mean?

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Speaker 1: You want to belie me about how you're drinking. If

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Speaker 1: you're pouring half shots, I got terrible news for you.

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Speaker 1: That's not a full shot.

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Speaker 4: That these are doubles, these are double shoes are not double.

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Speaker 1: You can have double. This is not at the bottle.

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Speaker 1: This is a single shot. You're out of your mind.

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Speaker 1: You have a double shot class at home. It's much

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Speaker 4: If you want to keep I'll play those games.

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Speaker 1: All right, Okay, let's let's see. I mean, you talk,

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Speaker 2: This was a guy's shot who said it would take

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Speaker 1: Right to make I was there that day. I was

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Speaker 2: I apologize to you guys after on behalf of Luke.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But it wasn't It was a legendary. It was a

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Speaker 2: Epic moment, Luke. I'll slide that over here, Luke. We

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Speaker 2: we have so much respect for you, your family, your

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go. Uh, Alcentro c.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: Very nice. Oh that's smooth. Should have done it your way.

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Speaker 1: I mean that, come on now, se it's delicious though.

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Speaker 4: first just the first shout out by the way to Quervo.

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Speaker 2: That's what we're talking about. Let's get fired up about

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Speaker 2: three fifteen, big picture for all the talk we do

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Speaker 2: about matchmaking, quality of cards, Chuck, what is three fifteen?

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Speaker 4: Can we get a letter grade?

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Speaker 1: Can you?

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Speaker 6: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Is it deep?

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Speaker 4: What would you say three fifteen brings to the table

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Speaker 6: Has made a letter grade? I would probably go a

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Speaker 1: Going to do work in this fight. I like that.

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Speaker 6: I like Thelall's fights. I know he doesn't get a

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Speaker 2: Try to interview I'm sure you've seen this. If you

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Speaker 1: It's like, Holy, he leans into it now, right. I

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Speaker 1: I didn't get a grade. Can I counteract a little? Please? Please?

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Speaker 1: I can't. He is crazy. I'm not going to do that.

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Speaker 1: we just be honest right now? Is an awesome time welterweight.

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Speaker 1: Some of the older riff raft is finally being pushed out.

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Speaker 1: There's a bunch of new guys coming up, obviously, Sean

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Speaker 1: Brady's coming up. Jack obviously is here. Shot Cut is

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Speaker 2: Gary is here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean you can blow him later, sulright. Sorry, Well,

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Speaker 1: but what I wanted to say was it's like, it's

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Speaker 1: to seventy that have some of this new blood. Jack

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Speaker 1: Dela is just twenty eight years old. Hello, this is

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Speaker 1: one of them. This fight just on fight terms. Fucking rules.

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Speaker 1: It rules now. Does it have spectacle, doesn't have massive popularity? No,

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Speaker 1: dock it. But it's an exciting time at welterweight, and

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Speaker 1: this fight is one of the reasons why it's an

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Speaker 1: exciting time at welter.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think this is a sneaky good fight from

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Speaker 2: a matchmaking perspective, from a amount of fights I want

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Speaker 2: to see.

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Speaker 1: Please, No, last time I'm going to say is not one,

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Speaker 1: not too three fights at women's flyweight on this car.

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Speaker 1: So you have the champions, you have the champion. I

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Speaker 1: think you have champion number one, contender, number five, number six, five,

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Speaker 1: this car. Dude, this division is gonna have a massive

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Speaker 1: upheaval and twist on a single night. I gotta say

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Speaker 1: I don't hate that either. And the individual matchups Silva

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Speaker 1: Jesdivissius And by the way, kind of funny that we

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Speaker 4: Now, when you look at the culture standpoint, you're right.

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Speaker 2: That was before TKO came in and just turned up

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Speaker 2: June twenty eighth in Las Vegas, UFC three seventeen. So hey,

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Speaker 2: And as you can tell, this shots fired brought to

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Speaker 2: you by Quervo. Now's a good time to enjoy the tequila.

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Speaker 2: You know what that invented tequila And I think it

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Speaker 1: I'm a good dad. Hey, why don't you pour more

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Speaker 4: Can okay Jesus Christ, maybe to equal the one that

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Speaker 4: I don't want to take the Lord's.

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Speaker 1: Name of vain in front of you, Cheese and Rice.

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Speaker 2: No, I just say, goddamn it, ship, Okay, that's that's

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Speaker 4: As we shoot to uh, happiness to.

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Speaker 1: Virility already. What time, it's like eleven seventeen.

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Speaker 2: That's when I talk. Let's to the Balah Muhammad sound

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Speaker 2: the one below.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about Islamachev.

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Speaker 2: Let's listen.

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Speaker 5: So I hate to even ask you about Islami Kashev,

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Speaker 4: You had all these positive things to say about Islam.

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Speaker 5: You weren't at all thinking about the possability of getting

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Speaker 5: hold up. Have you known him to be desirous of

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean we've ever we've talked about it, said it,

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Speaker 7: and he's all that you ruin my plans. It's one

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Speaker 7: of those things like all you want to know, you

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Speaker 7: I'm still gonna be the champ. So start your camp

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Speaker 7: right now. Whoever you haven't line, whoever you have in

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Speaker 7: the store, You're good.

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Speaker 2: That was the Anak and Florian podcast, a fantastic long

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Speaker 4: Chuck, this is kind of wild here.

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Speaker 2: Is it easy to say just like that that whoever

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Speaker 1: I mean, it seems to be that way, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: It seems to me that that's what's going on. Which

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, what are we laughing about you? Sorry? They

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Speaker 2: They got you again? Sorry?

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Speaker 1: Okay, which do you prefer?

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is like one of those things because

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Speaker 6: I feel like anything beyond that would become like lesser.

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Speaker 1: Am I wrong? I don't really want to see that.

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Speaker 2: But I'm on that side. I'm on the Ilio Islam.

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Speaker 2: This is a no brainer side. There's a complete other

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Speaker 4: So so you like, how does the Hunter Campbell.

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Speaker 4: But is that are we heading in that direction there?

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Speaker 1: Like it's not It's not really a question of like

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Speaker 1: it from the one, just a much bigger piece of

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Speaker 1: the pie rather than you're just sort of a sugar

440
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Speaker 1: high of one fight. Yeah, I'll take the sugar high, wouldn't.

441
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Speaker 1: But if there's more to be had to me, that

442
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Speaker 1: seems like a much more interesting possibility real quick.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to bring in the fan in this and

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Speaker 2: this is the fourth member of our team today are

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Speaker 2: our great bong enthusiast and producer director.

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Speaker 1: He was taking medicine of the uh.

447
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Speaker 4: Of the main card minute podcast. Does this mean long Island?

448
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Speaker 2: Luke Nosda, son of n just said Luke, son of

449
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Speaker 2: an Australian son of a horny down under man, and

450
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Speaker 2: the timing was right? Is this fans should be cheering

451
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Speaker 2: for JDM to win so we can get Islam versus Ilia.

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Speaker 8: No, because I feel like, why does Balal have to

453
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Speaker 8: lose to get Islam? Can't balall win and stay at

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Speaker 8: seventy and then Islam stays at fifty five? Or is

455
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Speaker 8: the whole thing Balaal wins and moves up and Islam

456
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Speaker 8: moves up.

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Speaker 4: Oh, you're right, I screwed it up. So that would

458
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Speaker 4: mean Blaal would have to win to keep the time.

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Speaker 1: Oh the question is if Balal wins and it forces

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Speaker 1: Islam to stay at fifty five, why is that preferred?

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Speaker 8: Ah, that's preferred. I want to see Islam Ilia as

462
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Speaker 8: much as BC does, so I'm fully in on that.

463
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Speaker 2: So we need Balal to win in this case then

464
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Speaker 2: to keep hold of that tie.

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Speaker 1: I don't give a shit who wins. But I don't understand, like,

466
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Speaker 1: like we're talking about one fight versus Islam potentially having

467
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Speaker 1: three or four At one seventy.

468
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Speaker 2: He's going to have a lot at one seventies he

469
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Speaker 2: might not.

470
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Speaker 1: Though that's the problem. If Ballall keeps winning, we probably

471
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Speaker 1: don't get there. I don't think that there's a world

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Speaker 1: where Balaal and Islam fight. I just don't.

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Speaker 2: I think Blall saying publicly that he's willing to go

474
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Speaker 2: up to middleweight, willing to fight Chamayav. I think basically

475
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Speaker 2: it's a setup there that like this fight on Saturday,

476
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Speaker 2: this main event three fifteen, will decide whether we get

477
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Speaker 2: Islam versus Elia the summer, it will. But after that

478
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Speaker 2: I think Ballall would move up. I mean so they

479
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Speaker 2: could he could give his friend a chance.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that UFC's going to do that. I

481
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Speaker 1: don't believe that at all.

482
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Speaker 2: Well, that was shots fired, brought to you by what

483
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Speaker 2: by Quervo, And just a reminder, Chuck that now is

484
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Speaker 2: as good as time as ever to experience and enjoy

485
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Speaker 2: the tequila that invented tequila.

486
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Speaker 1: What if they did make ballall versus Islam? I mean,

487
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Speaker 1: come on, why would they do that?

488
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Speaker 6: I know, but I'm just saying, like, if given that

489
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Speaker 6: they were going through this process right now, they won't

490
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Speaker 6: fight each other. Wait night, it's if this happens, this happens,

491
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Speaker 6: if this happens, this other thing happens. I remember when

492
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Speaker 6: Rashad you know, was going against John Jones. These types

493
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Speaker 6: of betrayals sometimes make a you know, for a fun

494
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Speaker 6: build up. I'm just saying I'm not to mention that

495
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Speaker 6: would be a fun fight. I I don't know if

496
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Speaker 6: they would ever do that, but.

497
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Speaker 2: They have both unequivocally said no, well, respect each other

498
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Speaker 2: too much. I just saw a.

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Speaker 1: Clip where you know, he's like, it doesn't sound.

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Speaker 4: Like he's totally I think he's the one that's more willing.

501
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think Islam has great interest in it.

502
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Speaker 1: I don't think you UFC has great. You're going to

503
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Speaker 1: take a guy who is again I like Blalah Muhammad.

504
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Speaker 1: I think he has a good chance of winning on Saturday,

505
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Speaker 1: but he's not well liked, and you're gonna take the

506
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Speaker 1: number one pound for pound fighter in the game and

507
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Speaker 1: put him up against them versus doing that against Apoia.

508
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: That makes absolutely no sense, Like there's no fucking chance

509
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Speaker 1: to do that.

510
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Speaker 2: Indeed. Interesting, interesting that this main event, though, can dictate

511
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Speaker 2: so much in the future. Let's talk about this main

512
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Speaker 2: event and what it brings to table.

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Speaker 6: It's actually unique in this sense because I feel like

514
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Speaker 6: we haven't had a situation like this in a while, right.

515
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Speaker 2: Or maybe ever. I mean, it's so distinct where it's

516
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Speaker 2: sort of like it is going to dictate the past

517
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Speaker 2: of a lot of people, you say, and I think

518
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Speaker 2: you're right. I've seen it. And I interviewed Blall this

519
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Speaker 2: week on my YouTube channel, and just the amount of

520
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 2: just random hate that drops and you're like, oh, yeah,

521
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Speaker 2: I forget how polarizing his connection to the whole Israel

522
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Speaker 2: Gaza thing is in Palestine by extension also just the

523
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Speaker 2: fact and it's probably a spot where I was a

524
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Speaker 2: couple of fights ago a lot of people just still

525
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Speaker 2: don't believe in this guy.

526
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Speaker 1: But wouldn't you say.

527
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Speaker 2: Recent history at welterweight with Shaffcott looking not like a

528
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 2: killer looking human for a night against Ian Gary in

529
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Speaker 2: a very competitive fight, and some of the other developments

530
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Speaker 2: that now in a weird way, Blal's getting a little

531
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Speaker 2: bit more respect than he ever did, although he's still

532
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 2: hated by such a huge part where he's coming in

533
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Speaker 2: rightfully as the betting favorite and he's basically saying, look,

534
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 2: I'm fighting a one dimensional guy who can only box.

535
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,239
Speaker 2: I'm the kryptonite for this guy. I feel like, if

536
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 2: if you hadn't seen Gary versus rockmanoff first or other

537
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Speaker 2: things that happened, we might be going, is this the

538
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: time this fraud champion's finally gonna gonna get served? He

539
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 2: kind of got respect by virtue of circumstances in a

540
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Speaker 2: weird way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think for a while that we felt like Ballall

543
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Speaker 6: was just going to be holding that spot until Shafcott

544
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Speaker 6: got to him. But now I'm not sure man like

545
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 6: Ballall is one of those guys now the way he's

546
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Speaker 6: winning fights, what is it twelve twelve fight? Like you know,

547
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Speaker 6: taking let eleven so eleven wins streak and like twelve

548
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Speaker 6: and BEATNA because of the one. But you know he finished,

549
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Speaker 6: Sean Brady, this is the guy who's kind of coming

550
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Speaker 6: up behind it inside too. Yeah, So I mean like

551
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 6: he's It's one of these weird unsung things because a

552
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Speaker 6: lot of times fans can separate a guy's personality who

553
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 6: he is from the fighter in a strange way. That

554
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 6: hasn't really happened with Ballall. I was very impressed with

555
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 6: him going into that situation with Leon, you know, given

556
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 6: the circumstances of fighting in very strange hours, enemy territory,

557
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 6: all that stuff, and just dominating the fight he did.

558
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Speaker 6: I don't know, man, I feel like he's kind of

559
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 6: earned my respect. I feel like he is the guy

560
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Speaker 6: to beat. It's not like a fluke champion up there.

561
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Speaker 2: Look I've come around. I'm just worried that I'm coming

562
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Speaker 2: around too far too late, like I typically do when

563
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: I missed somebody on the way up yet. Did you

564
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Speaker 2: see the countdown show in the embedded he's training during

565
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Speaker 2: Ramadan again, and it's like you continue to stack things

566
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Speaker 2: against balal Mohammed and he continues to get better and

567
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Speaker 2: find more ways to show us how great he is.

568
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Speaker 2: It's just weird that we enter this fight now where

569
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Speaker 2: I feel like people are looking at this matchup going, yeah,

570
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Speaker 2: Ballall is gonna probably defend his title here where I

571
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Speaker 2: thought every step of the way for him, we would

572
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Speaker 2: be looking at him as a Law as a transient,

573
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Speaker 2: transient champion.

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Speaker 1: Law is definitely a guy I didn't see coming like this.

575
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Speaker 1: I just didn't. I didn't. I wish I could say

576
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Speaker 1: I did, but I just didn't. And he got better

577
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Speaker 1: and better and better and better. Here's what's interesting, though,

578
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Speaker 1: did he earn my respect? Absolutely? Like, you know, what

579
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Speaker 1: are the odds on this one Long Island, Luke? Did

580
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Speaker 1: you sareff with us? I believe.

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Speaker 8: Last I look, Blall was like minus two hundred j

582
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Speaker 8: DM plus one seven.

583
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Speaker 1: Right, so I mean, not a huge favorite, but a

584
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: decent sized. But the point I wanted to make was

585
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Speaker 1: after first of after the Sean Brady went, I was like, okay,

586
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Speaker 1: that's interesting, and then after like he just like, I mean,

587
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Speaker 1: the fifth round obviously is not that case, and I

588
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: know Leon won another one in between, but in general

589
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 1: that was that was Bullall's fight against Leon Edwards, and

590
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, I mean, what can you say now?

591
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: The dude is absolutely legit. And by the way, did

592
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Speaker 1: it when Leon had all these excuses about why he

593
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Speaker 1: couldn't perform in his hometown and Ballall just showed up

594
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Speaker 1: and said, right.

595
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Speaker 4: He dropped him on his head.

596
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Speaker 2: He literally dropped him on there.

597
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Speaker 1: Was like, right, But that didn't stop me, now did it?

598
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Speaker 1: You fucking okay? Anyway, But here's what an interesting now

599
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: the division is the screws are starting to turn again

600
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: a little bit here where Ian Gary did stumble a

601
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: little bit against the shot cut, but that human eye

602
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: shot cut and now he got the win against protest

603
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: he surged. JDM has been off for a little bit,

604
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Speaker 1: which we'll get to, but I think is an interesting

605
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: contender for somebody we haven't seen yet this year. And

606
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: Brady's back, and it's like Ballall has turned into a

607
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: guy that the fans in terms of just who the

608
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: fighter is, they'll make fun of him for being boring,

609
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: but they do give him begrudging respect. But he has

610
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: turned into the object to be unseeded, like they want

611
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: to tune in because it's like, somebody take the fucking

612
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: belt from this guy, which to me adds to I mean, again,

613
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: there's not star power, but it adds to some degree

614
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: of stakes that's involved as long as people care, right,

615
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 1: like do you have to care?

616
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Speaker 2: Crazy thing. What Ballall's turning against is our expectations of him.

617
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: Not one part of his game stood out on his rise,

618
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: so it is easy, I guess, to sort of overlook

619
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Speaker 2: his chances.

620
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Speaker 4: Of doing exactly what he's doing.

621
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Speaker 2: But in two months he'll be thirty seven years old,

622
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Speaker 2: so he's bustling the trends of age and all that.

623
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Speaker 2: When I talked to him in the past week, he said,

624
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Speaker 2: in terms of why he might have some of the

625
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 2: best guest tank given his age and that he's doing

626
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 2: the best work of his career given his age, is

627
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: that he got into the sport late, and it's just

628
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: that insatiable work ethic has. It really just come down

629
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 2: to this guy outworks what was expected to him and

630
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: just keeps finding more success Because of this.

631
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Speaker 6: I think he's married to the game. He's one of

632
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 6: those guys who you know, he shows up to the gym,

633
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 6: really leaves late. He coaches guys beyond what they expect

634
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 6: of him with his with his time, you know how

635
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 6: much he's able to give, He gives him full his

636
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 6: full self. You talk to anybody in his camp, they

637
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 6: talk about this. I think that's part of it. You

638
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 6: mentioned it man like there was a point in time

639
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 6: he lost some fights early right like.

640
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Speaker 1: He was losing. It was just kind of a stuff

641
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Speaker 1: by Luca.

642
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was like he was kind of a guy

643
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 6: that you weren't. He wasn't going to be on your radar.

644
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 6: He was going to be maybe even a prelim guy.

645
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 6: It felt to me for the long time. But he

646
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 6: starts to emerge and through that process he gets better

647
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 6: and better. He made I you know, I think he

648
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 6: was behind the eight ball forever. I don't think the

649
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 6: UFC wanted to give him a title shot. I think

650
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 6: it was one of those moments where you're like, the

651
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 6: meritocracy has to win. At some point. You can't deny

652
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 6: the guy. They had to give him the title shot.

653
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 6: Does that mean that they want him out?

654
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Speaker 1: Maybe? You know what I mean.

655
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Speaker 6: I don't know how much they really want to be

656
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 6: in the ball all business ultimately, but his work ethic

657
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 6: man has put him there and he's one of those stories.

658
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 6: I do agree he has less miles on him all told,

659
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 6: Josie Aldo, who's on this card is something like thirty

660
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 6: seven or thirty eight, and that's very close. But look

661
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 6: at the difference in mileage there, you know what I mean. Like,

662
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 6: so if you look at something like that, you're like,

663
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 6: a guy like him can surge late. It's not too surprising.

664
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 6: But the fact that he's gotten so much better to

665
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 6: the point where I was going to ask you that

666
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 6: if he fought shot Cut right now or who are

667
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 6: if Shofcott is the number one contender, if he were

668
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 6: to fight him right now, who.

669
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: Would you favor? That's tough. I mean I would still

670
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: favorite shot Cut, but small nervously. But back I mean,

671
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: like maybe before the lee, you know, if you thought

672
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: about that, yeah, you would have probably put him with

673
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: something like that. So what he's doing is is fairly

674
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: remarkable given all that, And he did.

675
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: That by s out with an injury to sort to

676
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: be fair, these elements around him changed, and I think

677
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: it made people appreciate more of what he actually is.

678
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me add a couple of factors to that

679
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: if I can. One is, you know what's the Thomas

680
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: Edison quote. Genius is one percent inspiration ninety nine percent perspiration. Well,

681
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,239
Speaker 1: all Muhammed is that times a million? But the other

682
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: part too, we really have to give credit. And this

683
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: is something I didn't pick up on until, you know,

684
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: because I didn't think he was going to be Leon

685
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: and then he kind of houses him a little bit

686
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, how did he do this? And

687
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: I made a whole video about it. But in so

688
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: doing that, I hit up his coaches because I was like,

689
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: did y'all do this on purpose? And they had all

690
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: of it was intentional, all of it was directed.

691
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 4: It's two world champions in that camp, right, So.

692
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: They have Lewis Taylor put the guns down, who does

693
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: some of his stuff, and then Mike Valley yep, who

694
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: was featured in the countdown. I talked to Mike Valley

695
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: a couple times after actually several times after the fight

696
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: with Leon. Dude. The level of detail that Mike Valley

697
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: and his team, because it's not just him, he's very

698
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: he's very clear, it's not just me, it's all these

699
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: other guys too. But he has that Gutierrez, his striking

700
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: coach as well him as well. The level of pre fight,

701
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: strategic and tactical breakdown that they go through is I'm

702
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: not going to say more than what I've seen from

703
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: other teams, but it's mostly more from what I've seen

704
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: from other teams. It is so much more intricate than

705
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: you realize, and I think having like a vision about

706
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: how they want Ballall to perform, as well as diagnosing

707
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: the very very specific weaknesses in context of his opponents,

708
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: has given Ballall a massive leg up. So it's a

709
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: lot of him just absolutely refusing to go away and

710
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: getting paired with. They said it in the Countdown, arguably

711
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: the most underrated coach in MMA, and I don't think

712
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: that's crazy. In Mike Valley and.

713
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: He's training another title fight during Ramadan, like and he's

714
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: not even at.

715
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: The end at the end of March. It wasn't like

716
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: it affected this month or all of April credit.

717
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: So what is the connection then to Aka and Habib?

718
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: Is that more of a of a consulting moonlighting He.

719
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: Does some training with them. I mean, his home team

720
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: is with Mike and whatnot, but he obviously does a

721
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: lot of mood lighting for long stretches.

722
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 6: We wanted to train in Chicago area so that they

723
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 6: could be part of a champ cap because he could

724
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 6: have went the other way but he wanted his guys,

725
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 6: his loyal like his loyalty to that gym, to experience

726
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 6: this with him, through him and all that stuff. So

727
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 6: it's fairly admirable.

728
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: Really.

729
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: Then you know, then are we are we to judge

730
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: and say this friendship which I'm saying is absolutely legit

731
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: between Islam and blal. It's not like a like a

732
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: d C and uh, you know level friendship within it's not,

733
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: you know, so.

734
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: Different because that's true. You know, he purposely dehydrated himself

735
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: in lost Wages, which we know he didn't want to do.

736
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 2: You understood the reason reason why that happened because they

737
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: were that tight.

738
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 4: We understand why Morob and al Joe are that tight.

739
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: I don't think Kane and d C is comparable, toll And,

740
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: I mean no, I don't think that's comparable.

741
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 4: So how you kind of started earlier like they had

742
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 4: to fight.

743
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: Each other, Well, I was just throwing it out there.

744
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys poop pooed that pretty hard.

745
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: But well, look, he's leveled up because of the relationship.

746
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: I mean, you can see where his game is getting

747
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: better here and you know every step.

748
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 6: Do you believe him because he said, like, hey, I

749
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,719
Speaker 6: don't need to take this guy down. I want him

750
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 6: to like suffer through these hands.

751
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 4: You know, he talked about the Canelo hands.

752
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: Yea, he wants to show his hands.

753
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 6: But I'm like talking to what you were just talking

754
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 6: about him, Like, I find that a little hard to

755
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 6: believe because remember with Dela matt Atlena, Like there was that.

756
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: Fight, who's the who's the guy? He fought? Uh, a

757
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: couple of fights back who was a late minute it

758
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: was a last muscle hot back guy.

759
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: It was his decision.

760
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 6: That guy took him down three times, kind of held

761
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 6: him in there for like eight minutes. And I mean,

762
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 6: I know that that was a very strange circumstance. But

763
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 6: if you see things like that and these guys watch film.

764
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: Gilbert Burns took him down seven times, seven times. So

765
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: I'm just that's right.

766
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 6: And I mean obviously we kind of you obscure that

767
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 6: because he finishes Burns, you know, but I think that

768
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 6: that's going to be very inviting for him.

769
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: I just can't imagine.

770
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Jack Deloma Madelena off the top and

771
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: say he's getting this title fight in some weird ways

772
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: because the sea's parted at the perfect time, But he

773
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: has been off for fourteen months.

774
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 4: He's coming off of a fight in which he was losing.

775
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 2: On two of three scorecards entering the third round against

776
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: he just said his name burns Boo Earns. And then

777
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: he has to actually rally and finish him in the

778
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 2: final minute to be able.

779
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 3: To do that.

780
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 2: Decisions before that, are we overblowing the JDM has legitimate

781
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: questions to be answered here, luke or is this a

782
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: legitimate referendum moment on his elite status?

783
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely?

784
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: And his first title shout at the same.

785
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: Time, no question about it. Now to that point, he's

786
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: been the time off. I mean, we just saw Ryan

787
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: Garcia and Devin Haney, different sport, different circumstances, but they

788
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: were off for a little over a year, and they

789
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: looked like absolutely shutting up the war over here. Man,

790
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but they looked like shit. They looked like shit,

791
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 1: They didn't look like themselves. And again, sometimes it takes

792
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: a few fights to get back. You just don't have

793
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: that luxury if you're JDM. You have to go right

794
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: into the mouth of the lioneer and taken on the law. So,

795
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: first of all, that time off by itself means a lot.

796
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 1: As I just mentioned, he got taken down seven freaking

797
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: times against Gilbert Burns. And if Gilbert Burns, you might

798
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: remember the final sequence he gets two on one and

799
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: wraps and pulls j JDM to the mat. JDM just

800
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: has a presence of mind as he gets pulled to

801
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: kick up on the other side to roll the guy through,

802
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: which is amazing to do. But it's like, if you

803
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: didn't do that one thing, we're not having this conversation

804
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: about you. Like he rescued himself, which is amazing that

805
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: he hit him with the knee the whole nine yards.

806
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm just saying there are a lot of questions about JDM,

807
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: the inactivity. He fought three times in twenty twenty three,

808
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: one time in twenty twenty four, not at all yet

809
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: this year this will be the first that, plus some

810
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: of the development issues. But here's what I'll say, BC,

811
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: we talk about this all the freaking time. He's twenty

812
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: eight years old. He is just now starting his prime,

813
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: and when these guys start their prime, they level up

814
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: big time. Also, the loall I think kind of surprised Leon.

815
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: He's not gonna surprise JDM. JDM is gonna have a

816
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: clear sense of like patterns, what he wants to do,

817
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: where this fight is going to take place, what the

818
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: fault lines are that he has to win, and all

819
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: of that to me make it very interesting. But you asked,

820
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: like you know what happens here. I don't think it's

821
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: fatal if he loses to the law here. I really don't.

822
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: But you know, for a guy who's like his best

823
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: win was not accidental but right, but a little bit

824
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: Hail Mary ish, we are wondering exactly what the upside is.

825
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a good fight to give us an.

826
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: You could played MMA fan though right now to fill

827
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: your own interest hole, just you know what I mean,

828
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: just hammer that whole out.

829
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 4: Are you guys gonna slight the awkwardness pass?

830
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: I'm sorry about the apologies. We'll edit that out afterwards.

831
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 2: Are you would you sub in for your interest level

832
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: Brady or or Gary or shot cut right now? Or

833
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: are you yeah? Or are you just as fired up

834
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: to see the things that you don't know about JDM?

835
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: I think you nailed it because at twenty eight years old,

836
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: and I mean he has looked good. I think that

837
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: those he was on he had a head of steam

838
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: before those split decisions right like, I felt like people

839
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: were really talking about him. Then it was kind of

840
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: cooled a little bit and then picked back up again

841
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: as he as he like you mentioned, he got by Burns.

842
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: I still I feel like he belongs there. And also

843
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: he does represent you.

844
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 6: Know, a market like Australia right now can be kind

845
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 6: of restored and to its hot bed, you know, like

846
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 6: becoming that place again. If he's able to do what

847
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 6: people think he can, I just think that it's you

848
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 6: mentioned level up. I mean, this is one of those

849
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 6: situations where you're going, like Ballall has faced everybody, you know,

850
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 6: He's faced such a wide range of people, whereas JDM

851
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 6: hasn't you know, he has not faced that.

852
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: Level of competition.

853
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 6: So I think there would still I think it would

854
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 6: still be surprising if this is the moment he does

855
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 6: level up. He shows up and we see like hit

856
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 6: hitting his stride and he goes right through a guy

857
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 6: like Ballall, that would be truly surprising to me.

858
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 4: JDM seven to zero in the UFC.

859
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 2: Obviously, the big wins are the Burns knockout, the split

860
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: decision over Holland, but a lot of the wins before that,

861
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: he does have a sub over Randy Brown or developmental

862
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: wins on the way up.

863
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: So Luke remember so long, Luke current me. If I'm wrong,

864
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: apologize BC. The original pairing was supposed to be JDM

865
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: versus Sean Brady, and then when the injury fell out,

866
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: it ended up being Sean Ballall and then Brady Leon Edwards.

867
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: Is that right?

868
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what happened, was it?

869
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 8: I don't remember them ever booking JDM.

870
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: No, they had him booked. They switched this he was

871
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: he was he was supposed to fight Leon. I believe

872
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: that's right, and then they switched this over to the

873
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: title shot when got injured.

874
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: The timing was perfect for JDM, is what Balala is

875
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 2: saying this week. As simple as he says it, when

876
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: you compare the skill sets of the two of them,

877
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 2: is it fair when Blaal says JDM is a one

878
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: dimensional fighter who can only box and strike, and he's

879
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: great at boxing, but that's all.

880
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: He can do.

881
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: And by default, as the well more well rounded fighter

882
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: with the gas tank and the Canelo hands, we can say,

883
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 2: well we will block and box, but but you go

884
00:38:55,080 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 2: to the Canelo hands route, You're like, is it that

885
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: simple to look at this as a as a one

886
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: dimensional fighter with a great when his A game is

887
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: working due JDM is what I mean.

888
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: I don't understand Ballall's comment there because it's like, what

889
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: does he imagine his well roundedness amounts to? Like, yeah, okay,

890
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: he finished on Brady on the feet, that's fine, but

891
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: which is actually really a nice win. But he grappler well, okay,

892
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 1: but those are control positions. He's not a dynamic finisher.

893
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: JDM is obviously significantly better on the feet. Now again,

894
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: how that plays out in MMA context remains to be

895
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: seen by virtue of what game plan he goes. But

896
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: the point I'm trying to make is JDM has the

897
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: kind of functionality in other parts of his game that

898
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: Belall relies on in in different parts of his game,

899
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 1: Like they both have A games and then functional B games.

900
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: Like the notion that like Blall is like vastly more

901
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: well rounded is I think he's a little bit more

902
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: well rounded for sure. I'll give him. I'll give him

903
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: the nod, but I don't think it's nearly as you

904
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: know either or as he seems to be presenting it.

905
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: All right, New segment brought to you by Quervo. This

906
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: is real, real talk, honest answer here. If I am

907
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: not positive, if this turns into a five round boxing match,

908
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: even though Ball has got those Canelo hands well, JD

909
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: M f M up over five rounds and a boxing

910
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: match in which takedowns are not a part of this equation.

911
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: JMS is him up. Jdm's whole game is this dynamic.

912
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: We look at his face by the way, like you know,

913
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: shouts shots on my commentary partner at xFC, Jessica Aguilar,

914
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: she has, you know, the whole the nose off to

915
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: the side. It's like Picasso.

916
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: It's a bad dude.

917
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: They yeah, these they're they're they're not They're not in

918
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: any way trying to hide it like they're cool with it.

919
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: JDM is the same way Sean Brady. Dude, you got

920
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: two contenders at one seventy with noses off to the shop.

921
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 2: Just think he gave himself a man flower here, like

922
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: just to fit in. And I think that's ridiculous, Like

923
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: yall all.

924
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 6: Looks like his face has been like pressed down into

925
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 6: like something hard for a long time with a bulling bob.

926
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I wanted a different direction. What was the question.

927
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 4: The shop.

928
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: Paters used to accuse him or I was going to

929
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 2: ask you whether you thought real real talk does blow,

930
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: says I'm confident I won't take it down once I'll box.

931
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: So so again, Belall's hands. There's real that you can't

932
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: dis discredit them at all. But you have to understand,

933
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 1: like what makes JDM striking special. We're talking about like

934
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: what boxing and MMA means, and people think that means

935
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: throwing pretty combinations. He does throw multi strike combinations more

936
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: than three at a time, so through three, four, five,

937
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: that's not really it. He plays Frogger, that's what he does.

938
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: So he stands in front of oncoming traffic and he

939
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: dodges the cars. And the reason why that's relevant is

940
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: because he gets them real close, and that enables him

941
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: to then do those combinations. They look pretty because of

942
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: the inherent danger he accepts as part of that style.

943
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: But Law does not do that. Law bullies people with

944
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: volume and makes them cover. That's not the same thing

945
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: as I'm gonna stand right in the line of fire

946
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: and make you miss and then overwhelm you.

947
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: And before the show you're like in God who plays

948
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: reverse frog and I'm like, he's way too soon. For that,

949
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: if we can have a wow. Sorry, it was the

950
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: it was if we could have if we could extend

951
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: the real, real talk for a second over here, Chuck,

952
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: fire him, fire him? You know, I put him on

953
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: the spot right there about if this is a five

954
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: round boxing match, what happens? Let me put you on

955
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 2: the spot, all right, blall with his very impressive PEC deck,

956
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: does he have the best rack add or blow one

957
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy pounds of MMA or just.

958
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: Just oh that's tough, that's tough. It's just men though. Yeah,

959
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: you give him that, he's gonna there's no way he's

960
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: gonna stay at a box.

961
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 6: By the way, be shocked, because if he's getting pieced

962
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 6: up in this fight, he's gonna shoot.

963
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, then what what?

964
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 6: Momentum also carries him into weird situations a lot of

965
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 6: times because he'll come forward where else you're gonna go.

966
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 6: Eventually you're on the fence, you know, if the dude's

967
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 6: backing up.

968
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,479
Speaker 1: It's just would you say, has.

969
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: The certain intangible that champions have that they know how

970
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 2: to win close fights? They're just sort of timing, is there?

971
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 6: Look at I mean his amount of decisions too, like

972
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 6: I think he's one of those guys who just slowly

973
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 6: breaks your will over the course of a fight, doesn't

974
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 6: he like just kind of putting it on you the

975
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 6: whole time until you're like, I can't there's nothing like.

976
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: It's just a thing. It's a thing in grap If

977
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: you go three rounds with a with a with a partner,

978
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: in the first round, you kind of figure out there's

979
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: a couple of places where they're weak, a couple of

980
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: places you can camp out, a couple of places where

981
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: they don't have a good answer for you. The round ends,

982
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: you don't finish him, you go back to the next round.

983
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna go right to it. And then that's going

984
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: to open up a secondary set of doors, and then

985
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: a third set of doors. And so that's what he does.

986
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: He just begins to like, yes, he's the key master

987
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: from which matrix was at the second matrix where he's

988
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: just trying the doors and he doesn't get him all

989
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: of it at first, but then one then leads to

990
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: the other. And so it's this people like he breaks

991
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: your spirit. No, he just audits the little tiny leaks

992
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: in your in the plumbing and then finds where to

993
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: go and then the water spills out there.

994
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: Do we expect JDM to be able to leave his

995
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 2: back off the off the canvas for more than it's

996
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 2: not in this fight? Will he own the percentage of

997
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: control here? Will he be able to make this more

998
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 2: of a kickboxing matchine the end?

999
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: That seen? To me, that's like the big question, Like

1000
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: he does get taken down and I'm I don't know,

1001
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: Like you.

1002
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 4: See him down twice in round one? Is gonna be

1003
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 4: a long night and his guest because.

1004
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: Ball All is not a dynamic finisher. No, no, it's

1005
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: not like it's not like, dude, if you saw Islam

1006
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: get two takedowns on you, you'd be like, that's okay, Well,

1007
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: I mean you're not gonna I mean, this is this

1008
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: is this is done for you. But for the ball All,

1009
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: it's like he might capture the back and win the round.

1010
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: And that's bad because how do you solve that problem

1011
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: if your grappling is not good enough but at a

1012
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: bare minimum, you can just lose the round. The next

1013
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: fucking round starts right back here. That's that's a low

1014
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: percentage way to win. But it's not a bad things.

1015
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: It's just not the same as when you're dealing with

1016
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: somebody who's a dual threat.

1017
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 6: There's not a dual threat the potential of a boring fight,

1018
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 6: like you know, dude, it's fucking but I mean like,

1019
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 6: but I mean he's kind of given the guarantees of

1020
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 6: h and so I mean, I I don't always agree

1021
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 6: that his fights are bored. I didn't think that, like

1022
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 6: the Leon fight was knowing it was just I mean, I'm.

1023
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: Being halfway facetiously. What I'm saying is, no, I understand

1024
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 1: there's a capacity with because he has such a control

1025
00:44:58,840 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: based style.

1026
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 6: To get the problem because it always feels like a pattern,

1027
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 6: even even given the circumstances you mentioned, Like if there's

1028
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 6: a pattern established, you know, and you're trying to get

1029
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 6: your bang for your buck on a pay per view,

1030
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 6: that's where it always goes a problem for him because

1031
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 6: it's like, oh, so we're just gonna see five rounds

1032
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 6: of this, you know.

1033
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, And when people think like that, it becomes boring.

1034
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: You see, if there's a pattern, you'll all solve it.

1035
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: Check out the hook WHT the DJ evolves it.

1036
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 4: Son, It's like we have reverse zero and get with

1037
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 4: the hero.

1038
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 2: What'd you got?

1039
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 6: I said, we reverse roles here like usually as you

1040
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 6: singing today, he's already busted out too.

1041
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 2: It's just nice to see him so obvious, you know,

1042
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: it really is. I think it's time we talk about

1043
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 2: before we get your predictions, I want you to tell

1044
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: me if if either man wins, what's their first title defense?

1045
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 4: Chuck, why don't you go first?

1046
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: Here?

1047
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 6: So if I'm guessing if since we're doing this whole,

1048
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 6: this whole dance, if Jack Dela Matt Atlanta wins, he's

1049
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:52,959
Speaker 6: fighting Islam.

1050
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: Damn Luke.

1051
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: Is it as simple as that?

1052
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I fully agree. Yep, Okay, that, by the way,

1053
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: awesome fight.

1054
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 4: Would they bring that to Perth?

1055
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: They already made fight?

1056
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: That's a good that's a tougher question to answer. No,

1057
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think they're gonna put Islam

1058
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: back in the States because I think they want to

1059
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: use what's left of his star power for pay per views.

1060
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: It goes the other way.

1061
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 6: I'm would either be that's the thing. Is that Sean

1062
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 6: Brady or shot cut I don't know. I feel like

1063
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 6: it's just going to be circumstantials. Who's available and on

1064
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 6: the date they want it? You know, yeah, it's Islam.

1065
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: It's it so who if it's JDM, Sorry, is it

1066
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: going to be Brady to soho Cut? You're thinking not

1067
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 2: physically he does not appear to be ready.

1068
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, after the way Brady's been looking

1069
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: and the humbling heat the time.

1070
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 6: The other thing is man guys like shot Cut. I

1071
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 6: always feel a little bad for him because once they

1072
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 6: go off the raidar, everybody just pushes them aside until

1073
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 6: there's it's very tough to break back in. Even though

1074
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 6: he had that standing, he just doesn't keep himself in

1075
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 6: the limelight that anybody pays anything.

1076
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: And it's like we lived through when well. The way

1077
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: John Jones got the title shot ahead of her shot

1078
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: was Rashad was waiting for showgun and it's like you

1079
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: remember that whole thing. It's like spiders think it's like

1080
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: your heads you win, tails they do, they lose. It's

1081
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: because you know, all I want to wait for something,

1082
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: and then you wait, and then you can end up

1083
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: getting injured and then you lose the whole thing. Or

1084
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: you can just jump on an opportunity, but then it's

1085
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: not the right time and then you're gonna lose it. Anyway,

1086
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 1: it's a very very difficult to navigate the situation.

1087
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: What do you guys make of this unpublished podcast, of

1088
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: which apparently Balal was a guest on the Henry Suhudo

1089
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: and Kamorrow Usman.

1090
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 4: And apparently did they didn't.

1091
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: Hear this yet? No, no, no, I'm saying they need

1092
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: they need to. They need to.

1093
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 2: So apparently they had a for ten minutes they argued,

1094
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 2: and then Blah walked off the show. Should we fear

1095
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: that if Usman beats Buckley that we're going.

1096
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: To get I don't think this is going to beat Buckley.

1097
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 1: I think people are terribly overrating the condition.

1098
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: They throw him in against ballall next and try to

1099
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 2: cash in on. This is really what I'm trying. No, no, no,

1100
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 2: Balalusman because of this podcast scenario.

1101
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: Uh so if he beats Buckley, it's possible.

1102
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 2: I don't want that, all right. What I want, though,

1103
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 2: when I want predictions, I want predictions. I want to

1104
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: know who wins when?

1105
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 3: Why?

1106
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: How Luke Thomas you're up for?

1107
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, I don't know. I don't fucking know.

1108
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 2: You know you know what?

1109
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: Who should go to? We should go to the betting

1110
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: guy for Yeah, let's go to betting guy, what do

1111
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: you think?

1112
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 8: All right, So my heart is obviously with JDM. I'm

1113
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 8: rooting for JDM. Oh yeah, my betting like the law

1114
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 8: is going to win this fight. I think is going

1115
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 8: to have his way with him taking.

1116
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 1: You're betting, so you're picking him straight up and betting

1117
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: on him.

1118
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 8: I'm yeah, I'm betting on ballall. I'm picking ballall. But

1119
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 8: I will be rooting for JD.

1120
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: Should they did he lose his Aussie card right there?

1121
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 8: Well, I'm still rooting for him.

1122
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: Man, you didn't comment on that video I sent you

1123
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: of the Koala jack and off.

1124
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a little turned off by.

1125
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: You can turn him off. I also send him one

1126
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: of a gorilla shitting in his hand than eating it.

1127
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 4: Luke doesn't know yet.

1128
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: We have a blab by decision. Okay, what do you got?

1129
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: I have the same thing. I just and I think

1130
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: that it'll be one of those things That's what I

1131
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: was talking about.

1132
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 6: I think it'll be kind of established what kind of

1133
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 6: fight it's going to be, and that that's what's going

1134
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 6: to piss off Montreal in the end.

1135
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: Is that gonna you know what the answer is, I

1136
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I'll take because of everyone's picking the law,

1137
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: which is probably correct. I'll just take a flyer on JAJ.

1138
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 2: When we don't want that because you don't have any passion, or.

1139
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: Because this is why the fight is actually interesting, which

1140
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: is that, like, dude, there's that is true. The law

1141
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: is something of a known quantity. Right now. Now we

1142
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: feel like, okay, we've got a much better understanding of him.

1143
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 1: We just don't with JDM that the same degree.

1144
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 2: I feel like it will be a ball all decision,

1145
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: which is like the boring obvious pick. But I think

1146
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 2: JDM drops him like uh, you know, put some marks

1147
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 2: on his face, and it's sort of one of those

1148
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 2: where you're like, oh, wow.

1149
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: Leon can do it. You would imagine j DM might

1150
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: be able to do.

1151
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: Something a good fight.

1152
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a good fight.

1153
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a man it'll at least be

1154
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: a good fight in certain parts for sure. Yeah. Yeah,

1155
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: if JDM has his moments, then it's probably going to

1156
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: be right. It is Ball overwhelms them. That's all right.

1157
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 2: Let's get fired up for this co main event on

1158
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 2: Saturday in Montreal.

1159
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 4: Has Valentina Cheffchenko thirty seven.

1160
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: Years old, ankles, ankles, Ankles.

1161
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: Directly off of her Sphere trilogy win over Alexa Grosso,

1162
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: who is on this card as mentioned earlier, Well, welcome

1163
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: in unbeaten in the octagon minon Pharaoh of France, who

1164
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: is on fire. She will be the slight favorite. And this,

1165
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: by the way, Chiffchenko versus Pharaoh preview is brought to

1166
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,240
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1167
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,600
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1168
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 2: Total Wireless. It's interesting, Chuck to see Valentina essentially win

1169
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 2: two and three of that trilogy, even though the second

1170
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 2: one was a draw, but there was a scoring error

1171
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 2: in there. And now Grosso stock being down and she's

1172
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: a She's an underdog herself against Natalia Silvia a couple

1173
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 2: fight it's earlier. But what do we make of this fight?

1174
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 2: Because I'm surprised that Valentina is the underdog. I have

1175
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: so much respect for the run Pharaoh is on what

1176
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 2: she did to Aaron Blanchefield. She kept her back off

1177
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 2: the canvas, she lit her up in the striking. What

1178
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 2: are your expectations entering this is going to be a

1179
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 2: big passing of the torch. It certainly got that potential

1180
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: with ferrou being the betting favorite coming.

1181
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 6: The chev Chankle puzzle is like the strange part, right

1182
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 6: because even before the trilogy with Grasso, there was that

1183
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 6: very close Tyler Santos fight. Remember it was like a

1184
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 6: very close and a lot of people at the time

1185
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 6: thought that she lost that fight, and then you get

1186
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 6: the Grasso thing.

1187
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: But then she's getting more dominant as this.

1188
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 6: Series goes on. So I'm not sure where Chevchinko was.

1189
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 6: And maybe you can tell me how old is she is.

1190
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 6: She's like thirty seven, so thirty seven years old. Again,

1191
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 6: you have an aging champion and you're like, I don't

1192
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 6: know when that starts to go. But I also know,

1193
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 6: just like Bellall, that her work ethic is up there,

1194
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 6: and that she's married to the game and a very

1195
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 6: so she lives the game.

1196
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 2: We don't know who's married to Pavel. That's the topic

1197
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: for another debate.

1198
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: That's another throufle.

1199
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 4: But that puts that in further behind father.

1200
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: He's going to get married to the sisters. So I'm

1201
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: able to make him a grooms you know what I'm saying, Yeah, boy,

1202
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: you're but you're the mother I have to say.

1203
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 6: I have to say that to me, man in Ferro

1204
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 6: is like one of those fighters who is unsung, possibly

1205
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 6: because you know she just I saw her at the

1206
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 6: Apex years ago a couple of years ago against uh

1207
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 6: Buyna Silva uh and she was so dominant that I've

1208
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 6: kind of paid attention, like what is she going to do?

1209
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 6: And from there she's only looked better and better. To me,

1210
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 6: that Aaron Blanchfield was quietly one of the most impressive

1211
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 6: things that happened last year. To go into that situation,

1212
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 6: which I thought was really set up to be a

1213
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 6: showcase for Blanchefield to kind of get across and to

1214
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 6: say like, hey, this undefeated, what twenty four year old

1215
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 6: gets a home game against this you know, Parisian or whatever,

1216
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 6: this French fighter coming over from from Nice. Yeah, and

1217
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 6: it was a set up for her to lose and

1218
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 6: for her to win the way she did, piece her

1219
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 6: up on the feet, kind of keeping it. What she

1220
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 6: did is basically take away Aaron blanche I don't know

1221
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 6: if you've done like a like watch the tape on

1222
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 6: this to kind of break it down, but this one

1223
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 6: she took away her like she exposed her for not

1224
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 6: having a plan b. You know, there was no Plan B.

1225
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 6: It was like so it was like existential. About two

1226
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 6: minutes in enough, you're like, how she's going to get

1227
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 6: through this fight? It was very crazy.

1228
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: That to me is fun man, because Chevchenko is such

1229
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 1: a such a monster too. To me, it's like you're.

1230
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 6: Catching probably the quietest but most dangerous head of momentum

1231
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 6: coming at Chevchenko.

1232
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 1: It could be a long night for Chevchenko.

1233
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 2: You ever wonder about your college years and Plane B

1234
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 2: had a better round. Look when we're talking about the

1235
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 2: challenger here in Farah seven to zero in the UFC,

1236
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 2: But I feel like sometimes in the women's division, where

1237
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of depth, you could get two

1238
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: or three great wins and be in a title spot. Dude,

1239
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 2: she really had to earn this when you consider in

1240
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: those seven fights she finished, Tabitha Ricci, got a decision

1241
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 2: over title challenger Maro Bueno Silva, beat former tyre tonger

1242
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 2: Jennifer Maya by decision, a decision over another title challenger

1243
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 2: in Chukagian, and then.

1244
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: She beat van knee injury former champion.

1245
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: Rosanama Unis, and then unbeaten number one contender Aaron Blanchfield.

1246
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 2: That's battle tested as shit, yeah, at one twenty five, like,

1247
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 2: maybe I should perk up and realize that her being

1248
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 2: the betting favorite is not crazy.

1249
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: Here didn't have a strong opinion about who's gonna win

1250
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 1: the main event, have a strong one in the co main.

1251
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: I think Pierro's gonna Fierro should should very much win

1252
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: this fight. Tune like a guitar. Yeah, I won't go

1253
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: that far that, you know, you know what, I feel

1254
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: halfway vindicated, Chuck, because before the fight in April twenty

1255
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: twenty four, I said, oh, Devin Haney's gonna tune Ryan

1256
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: Garcia right, because I looked at the tape and Ryan's

1257
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: not good. And then sure enough he's good in that

1258
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 1: one fight, but then he went back to also being

1259
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: not good. And so I feel like over like the

1260
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: wheels of justice grind slowly, but they grind finally. So

1261
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: in any case, least he's not a racist. But anyways,

1262
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 1: go ahead, Well, ye, I mean he could be that too.

1263
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: I mean he knows, but all of Luke's heroes. Inevitably,

1264
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: anybody I've ever liked turns out to be a racist

1265
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: or an anti semshit.

1266
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 2: The other day, you were like Nikki Rod's brother's great.

1267
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they're like, oh, turns out maybe not

1268
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: so much. You know anyway, tough break, all right, But

1269
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: the one I want to make was on this one. Now,

1270
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: there is a risk that the UFC is running here.

1271
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: They could run a boring comaine, and that is absolutely

1272
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: something that's on the table.

1273
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 4: They don't care though, Okay, I'm.

1274
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: Just saying we have to be ready that I'm not.

1275
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm not declaring to you that is where it will happen.

1276
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: But that's that's on the charcouter reboard, whether or not

1277
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: you grab the you know, the whatever.

1278
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 2: Anyway, we wi right, chuck.

1279
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: But here's why she's interesting. She's a plus A plus athlete.

1280
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: If you just look at Furoh, she's built like a tank,

1281
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: a wiry tank, a wiry tank, but like her core

1282
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: is like real, she's got like the dustin POORI a

1283
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: wide body kind of situation.

1284
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, I mean, what about can you tell

1285
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 4: me about.

1286
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: Where are we going with this? Jud's like she's got

1287
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: an apt but in all seriousness, in all seriousness, she's

1288
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: an A plus athlete. And what was interesting about the

1289
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: Blanchfield fight was not just it was how surprising I

1290
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: was because I thought Blanchfield same here, we had her

1291
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: in studio, Blanchield was just gonna roll is your room

1292
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: service thing?

1293
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 8: Was that what it was?

1294
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: Blanfield? Yeah, that's right. I remember that the Happier's days.

1295
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: I don't understand. But what I'm trying to point out

1296
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: is her ability. You mentioned that she that that Blanchfield

1297
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: had no b game. Fierro's ability to beat you to

1298
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: the punch and keep you at her range is extraordinarily good.

1299
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: Her takedown defense ninety three percent. Only Jennifer Maya got

1300
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: her down one time and could only keep her down

1301
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 1: for like a matter of seconds. I feel like Schefchenko

1302
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,439
Speaker 1: kind of relies on the takedown now more than ever.

1303
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: And you did mention she got better over the trilogy.

1304
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: I don't see it that way. I mean, I do

1305
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: see it that way in a sense, But what I

1306
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 1: really see it as is that Grosso got fucking.

1307
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 2: You have bought all the stock in Grosso has gotten

1308
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:04,439
Speaker 2: like way worse.

1309
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: There's no absolutely is no denying her takedown defense got worse,

1310
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: Absolutely got worse. She crumbled under fight, It got terrible. Yeah,

1311
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen with Fierro. That that will not

1312
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: be available to her, not for very long anyway.

1313
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 6: So for me, Blanchfield only tried a couple of times,

1314
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 6: remember like three times, and she was didn't get closer,

1315
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 6: she couldn't get close enough. And then it was almost

1316
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 6: like she was like, I have to abandon that idea.

1317
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, Chefchenko is gonna have way more offense than.

1318
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 2: That, like Blachfield not moving her head at all. Okay,

1319
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 2: and even these good names that she's beat, how many

1320
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 2: of those would we say are elite strikers on the

1321
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 2: level of Chefchenko.

1322
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 4: What will this fight look like?

1323
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 2: I mean if Chefchenko is not making it easy for

1324
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 2: Blanchfield did not move her head, she was just getting

1325
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 2: lit up left and right, left and right.

1326
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, But the point is Fierro can just what you

1327
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: always want to look for is where the fight takes

1328
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: place in the octagon and who is defining the terms.

1329
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: And the reason why Fierro wins even though it goes

1330
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: to decision after decision except for her first two fights

1331
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: in the UFC, is because she sets the terms and

1332
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: these these opponents cannot find a way to change that equation. Now, Chefchenko,

1333
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: of anybody, has that capability. But I think as that

1334
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: fight settles into a groove, you're going to see Fierro

1335
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: behind the jab, behind the pushkick, dominant in the clinch,

1336
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: stuffing the takedowns, and it's going to put Chefchenko in

1337
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a compromised position. She doesn't

1338
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: have the same athleticism at age thirty seven as she

1339
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: once did. She's been fighting the same opponent for two

1340
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: fucking years. Yeah, I'm telling you Fro's position here to

1341
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: do real well.

1342
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 2: All right, Chuck, real real Colorado edition?

1343
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: All right, who's more racist?

1344
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 2: Take me back.

1345
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: You.

1346
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 2: If Rose wasn't injured in that Pharoh fight, does not

1347
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: my units get a close win and we're not here

1348
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: right now. No, So what I'm saying is that's the

1349
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 2: most competitive fight we've seen for farroh Or. She had

1350
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: to do the most adjusting. Yeah, and she ultimately looked

1351
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: very good in that fight, but she had to overcome

1352
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 2: some things, including Rose's right hand. I'm just saying it's

1353
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 2: probably true.

1354
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm trying to. I was like going back and trying to,

1355
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: but I think that Fierro I it would.

1356
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 6: I mean, that's one of those ifs to me because

1357
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 6: I don't really know how that would have played out.

1358
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 6: But honestly, almost everything that I've watched from Fierro has

1359
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 6: been pretty dominant. When you mentioned this kind of who's

1360
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 6: dictating the terms, She's almost always dictating the terms, and

1361
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 6: I think that that's like what makes her who she is,

1362
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 6: Like she just kind of I wonder in this situation,

1363
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 6: have you ever talked to her? And if you're I

1364
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 6: did a I talked to her.

1365
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: French is not great.

1366
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 6: Well, it's like she goes through a chancellor. But it's

1367
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 6: like as dry dry as you can. It's just there's

1368
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 6: not there's not like she's not giving you a lot

1369
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 6: of personality. And I don't know how she is in

1370
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 6: her native like if it's with French media or something

1371
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 6: like that. But I always wonder about this kind of

1372
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 6: champion because she's so unsung in the United States at least,

1373
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 6: like people aren't talking about her, like what is her

1374
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 6: ceiling in terms of is it just going to be

1375
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 6: like if she wins it, they're going to have a

1376
00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 6: show in France? Are they going to do something like

1377
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 6: that because they can capitalize on that. That sort of

1378
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 6: thing with you know, with Cedric Dumbay, like kind of

1379
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 6: selling out maybe they can bring something like that. It's

1380
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 6: a weird one because we haven't seen a lot of

1381
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 6: champions that yeah, yeah, but we haven't seen a lot

1382
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 6: of champions that are that quiet, yes, that are that

1383
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 6: dangerous like she, to me, is kind of in that

1384
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 6: terrain where we should have seen her come in for

1385
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 6: a long time here.

1386
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 4: At least her game is fun to watch.

1387
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: But I get exactly what you're saying, right zero, Yeah,

1388
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: I don't love her game.

1389
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 2: I think it's fun to watch for somebody who's who's

1390
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 2: a snowboards, for someone who gets decision wins. I think

1391
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: it's fun to watch or break people down offensively technical thrillers,

1392
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 2: technical thrillers indeed. So I don't know what would be

1393
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,479
Speaker 2: the big surprise here. If we're going to f around

1394
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 2: and find out again that chef Chenko is as good

1395
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 2: or better than we thought historically.

1396
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: Take down dominance. Would be very surprised.

1397
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 4: That's how that her path is that the only path.

1398
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: I won't to say it's the only path, but you're asking, like,

1399
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: what would be surprising? That would be surprising if she

1400
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: shows takedown dominance, I'd be like, Wow, that is extremely impressive.

1401
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: That would be because Fierro again, I'm gonna say it's

1402
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: not that she has It's not merely that she has

1403
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: good tech. I think people really sleep on what kind

1404
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: of an athlete she is. Man, it's a different level

1405
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: with her for her, I mean, for she check her

1406
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: to get on, to be able to secure a top

1407
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: position nick down would be impressive.

1408
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, because Farroh is so stubborn, so so strong in

1409
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 4: that regard.

1410
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 2: This is Dann. That's a tough ass fight the more

1411
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 2: you break it down.

1412
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: So what do you make a Valentino's kind of fascinating

1413
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: though too, her no mad.

1414
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 2: Training style where she can be on a boat ahead

1415
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 2: of some fights. This time she was in El Paso

1416
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 2: in a tiny gym, like always floating around always Highland

1417
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 2: for half the year. It seems like we marvel at

1418
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 2: how her consistency, her longevity. But do you feel like

1419
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 2: she's been actually adding to her game.

1420
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:41,959
Speaker 1: It's hard to say, because he's been fighting the same

1421
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: person and had the same.

1422
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 6: Kind of and you put more of that on Grassow

1423
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 6: kind of declining, or he puts all of it on

1424
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 6: that well mostly, I mean it's you could make that argument,

1425
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 6: and I think that that's when you're talking about the

1426
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 6: grassow fight here. I think there we'll find out right,

1427
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 6: like we'll see kind of where she's at.

1428
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: Dude, I mean just think about she got on top

1429
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: of a grosso. Did she do anything super memorable in

1430
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: terms of passing? She got basically real duds, Like, yeah,

1431
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: she do. She's got basic takedowns in like secure top

1432
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: position with a little bit like modest ground upound it.

1433
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: You know, but I'm sure I'm forgetting something. But that's

1434
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: what it comes to mind. And you know, I just

1435
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: don't think that Avenue is going to be there against Fierros.

1436
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: The question is like what what avenue is going to

1437
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: be there? And it's going to be at range And

1438
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: that's that's a that's a more fifty proposition.

1439
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 2: What's the best concert you've ever been to with a

1440
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 2: female lead vocalist? Oh man, that's on topic kind of.

1441
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: I mean, good question. Actually I saw Whole once that

1442
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: was pretty really that's it. This is the third one

1443
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: drinking game. Now.

1444
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 6: You remember that band Belly, Yes, I saw them. I

1445
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 6: saw Radiohead open for them in Boulder, Colorado. That was

1446
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 6: a fun concert because of those two bands together.

1447
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: I saw Garbage that would be I saw the Breeders

1448
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: Naked Eyes Maabyl seven dude that one time got taken

1449
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: on a date to a Tigan in Sarah concert. There

1450
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: wasn't a second date on that one. Let me you know,

1451
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: X saw them. I've seen a lot. I saw guys.

1452
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: Don't know who they are.

1453
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 6: By the way, you're getting close with your your favorite band.

1454
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 6: I noticed, like, no, no, but I mean you're getting

1455
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 6: close with them.

1456
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: I just no, no, no. I I met up with

1457
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: Eric Rutan the guitar stuff.

1458
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 2: Will we ever get a zoom call on MK with

1459
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 2: George corps grind?

1460
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: So what I found out was I didn't know. So

1461
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: I finally met up with Eric Rutan. They were in

1462
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: ac recently and I went to the show. We hung

1463
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: out and I don't know how it came up, but

1464
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: we were talking. He brought progresting or something, and one

1465
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: way there he goes, you know who, because because I

1466
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: don't like parting, you know who in the band is

1467
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: the biggest pro wrestling guy. George Corpse Crinder, the lead singer.

1468
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: I knew, the one who talks about shooting blood from

1469
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: his cocka that one. Yeah, oh god, all right.

1470
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 4: Back to this fantastic fight.

1471
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 2: Look if Valentino wins here, we're certainly talking about just

1472
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 2: adding to her great resume. Okay, if she loses, we're

1473
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 2: gonna go. Maybe that's the end of the of the run,

1474
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 2: of the incredible run she had. If she wins, though,

1475
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 2: are the remaining mountains to climb?

1476
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: I e.

1477
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 2: The idea that nwness is coming back and the idea

1478
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 2: that we've thrown around a long time that is women's bandom.

1479
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 2: Waight a is so weak that couldn't she go back

1480
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 2: up and wait and be a maybe a twue division champion.

1481
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 2: If Valentino wins, Luke Thomas, do you see more history

1482
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 2: and more mountains to climb in her future?

1483
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: I would say that if she wins that you really

1484
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: have just a couple of options. One is thirty five,

1485
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: and that's something that she might do for posterity sake.

1486
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: And then the other one is you the one fight

1487
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: in the top five. Excuse me, we've mentioned all the

1488
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: top five fighters on this card. Two of them that

1489
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: are not are Blanchefield and barber who are fighting later on,

1490
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: and I think a month or so I forget exactly

1491
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: when it is. So if Barbera wins, well, then you

1492
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: have a fresh aim that's kind of been hyped Contender series. Alum,

1493
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: she might stick around for that. But those are your

1494
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: two options, because if Blanchfield wins, she's gonna fight I

1495
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: mean maybe, I don't know, but like you know, if

1496
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: you beat Phiero, it's still playing a little bit of

1497
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: m a math. But would it makes sense to fight Blanchfield?

1498
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how that would go. Yeah, what about

1499
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 1: Whale moving up? So that's an interesting one. Yes, yes,

1500
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: that one could That one could do it.

1501
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 2: I'm wondering with Amanda back, is it back just for

1502
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 2: one fight against Paine or could we get at that

1503
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 2: trilogy with or Kayla with Valentino. I think if Valentino loses,

1504
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 2: she fights Rose because Rose wants that really bad. They've

1505
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 2: trained together, they have a lot of respect for each other.

1506
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 2: That'd be kind of an interesting fight. But if Pharaoh wins,

1507
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 2: what's the first title defense or are we gonna find

1508
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 2: out after something?

1509
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: Still? Barbara winner interesting?

1510
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 4: M I mean if na Tellia Silva beats Alexa Grosso

1511
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 4: coming off.

1512
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's the wild card too. I think that

1513
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: one's a little bit. Yeah.

1514
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,919
Speaker 6: Italia's like, what like fairly young, right, Yeah, and she's

1515
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 6: won all of her fights in the seas, so I

1516
01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 6: mean it would be hard to had time off due

1517
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 6: to try why it is good though, That's why it

1518
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 6: is a good card in that way, because you get

1519
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 6: a lot of clarity on these things.

1520
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: Every time we bring up this matchup, he's like sneaky

1521
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, the kind of But Luke, we

1522
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 2: need a prediction jeff Chenko versus He's been firm, He's

1523
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 2: been consistent, Chuck.

1524
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be the same way. I think

1525
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 6: it's the same thing. And I mean, if it goes

1526
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 6: the way that I keep seeing all this, man.

1527
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 2: What.

1528
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: Why are you breathing over there? Like Skip Bayless, I think.

1529
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 2: Be really hard fought. It might need to be a

1530
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 2: boring fight. It might need to be people saying that

1531
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 2: they didn't agree with the decision. It's gonna have to

1532
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 2: be close. But I think she can do this. I'm

1533
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 2: going Chiff Chenko by upset. There you go, cloudy decision

1534
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 2: meaning split majority.

1535
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:44,959
Speaker 4: In that rank in that vein Long Island.

1536
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 8: I got a bet on it, so I'm going Chevy

1537
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 8: decision as well.

1538
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he never bets with his heart anymore.

1539
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 1: It's always transaction. You know, there was value on. Don't

1540
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: Trusty Cash as a dog last time? You know, do

1541
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: you hear yourself? You don't even speak English anymore?

1542
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Chevy, it's like second hand Afs Trilian.

1543
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's keep going down this pay per

1544
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 2: view card. I'm want to get more excited about Jose

1545
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 2: Aldo fight into Montreal. But it's like, not against some

1546
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 2: of these older guy fantasy matchups. I want, it's against Yeah,

1547
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 2: the Arieljwanna you look like, who's thirty seven but is

1548
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 2: on a five fight win streak, is the brother of

1549
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 2: Faras of Montreal fame. But like this is the third

1550
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 2: straight fight where all those getting the Anderson silver booking

1551
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 2: where you're like he's a legend. He doesn't need to

1552
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 2: fight Cannoneer, he doesn't need to fight Derek Brunson. Like

1553
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to see Aldo against his last two opponents,

1554
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 2: which he's split the Chris Gutierrez, right.

1555
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, Jonathan Martinez, Jonathan Martinez, thank you.

1556
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 4: I don't feel like I need this. Can you guys

1557
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 4: talk me into Josie Aldo versus i'mn zion.

1558
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: What I'll say is, if you's a hobby, the way

1559
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 1: he has turned his career around, I think he's also

1560
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: a bit surprising that he ended up in this position.

1561
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: Better late than never eat thirty seven year right, a

1562
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: little bit older, he would do something kind of fun.

1563
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: It's just that I don't want this for Jose Aldough.

1564
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: I would want him to be in Dominic Cruz's retirement.

1565
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 1: That is. It is really strange because they're cashing them out.

1566
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: They're cashing them out. Yeah, I mean, look, look, look

1567
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: look at it for what it is.

1568
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 2: But they're not even putting him in against somebody that

1569
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 2: I can use it in a great day.

1570
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:20,879
Speaker 1: You'd be like Mario Bautista.

1571
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

1572
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: We're cashing them out, losing the recipes. Jock's really screwed up. Man.

1573
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 6: It's been six years since he went down to bantamwaight,

1574
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 6: Like I remember when he was doing that. Six years

1575
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 6: he's been doing this. It's insane, it's incredible. It's incredible.

1576
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 6: Like we were like when he was doing it, it

1577
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 6: felt like, man, what are you doing. You're gonna you're

1578
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 6: probably not gonna make bantam weight, and what are you

1579
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 6: going to do? Resurrect yourself? And six years later we're

1580
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 6: still talking about him and facing guys like this, kind

1581
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,640
Speaker 6: of would work figures that they favors to. I don't know,

1582
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 6: like a Montreal guy. You can put a Montreal guy

1583
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 6: in this guy, I don't know.

1584
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: The Hobby has has put together a very respectable wind streak.

1585
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: He was owed some step up, for sure, he was

1586
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: a step up. It's just that like this was the

1587
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 1: only step up they could have given him, like a

1588
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: legend in the game. Who would like to see in

1589
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: a little bit more? Though? Well he had the I poke.

1590
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 4: I mean I'm saying that caliber fight.

1591
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, yes, I fully agree. Yeah, yes, how

1592
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: about Brandt? I don't know, although would you like that

1593
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 1: more than this one?

1594
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 2: N he's kind of you see his now long hair though, Yeah,

1595
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 2: he's got like wavy, wavy mister Faber hair now does he? Yeah,

1596
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 2: you gonna check him out. He's he's rebranding more aggressively

1597
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 2: than Leonard Lerbie when he turned to Uncle Phil.

1598
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 1: He's turning into like a really fit jelly roll or something.

1599
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 2: I think so of this five fight win streak for

1600
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 2: Za Hobby, the highlights are a decision over Ricky Tercios.

1601
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 2: How do you say a or ky ling?

1602
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Chinese guy.

1603
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 2: Richie Lang, thank you then you got a decision went

1604
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 2: over Javid bosh Rot and then a decision went over

1605
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 2: Old but still there Pedro Munos. Those last two are

1606
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 2: good where we terms of like how how tough, how dangerous,

1607
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 2: how good is Iman's hobby? Amen?

1608
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: Like I said, he was O to step up from this,

1609
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: Like those last two wins are legit opponents. Those are

1610
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 1: not bullshit opponents at all. He has really worked on

1611
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: his skill set. He was a guy that I thought

1612
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:18,640
Speaker 1: was a bit also ran. That's really not true. You know,

1613
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 1: he might even win. I don't think that's necessarily out

1614
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 1: of the question. It's just.

1615
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,799
Speaker 4: It's just what are the favorite do we have the odds.

1616
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 8: Loong I al though minus one ninety eight, one sixty four.

1617
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's about right.

1618
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 2: Isn't that telling you you're doing something wrong? Put him

1619
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 2: in with the rising stud that can like the real

1620
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 2: rising stud that can really benefit from it. I don't know.

1621
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. Joe's Aldo trajectory is

1622
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: as crazy as it gets. I know, I can't believe

1623
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 1: that he's allowing him, Like Jim Miller has a bit

1624
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: of a different career, like he's never a champion and

1625
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: you know, trying to make use of the last chapter

1626
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:58,520
Speaker 1: in a functional way is totally understandable. It's just surprising

1627
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: that Aldo is act yes, sor right?

1628
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 2: What about although moving back up to Feather and taking

1629
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 2: on Chewie Wee's.

1630
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 1: Better. But you know the problem with that is chewee

1631
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 1: Wee's doesn't have great stand up.

1632
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 8: Is thirty five though he's one.

1633
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 1: Oh he's thirty five. You're right, I'm sorry.

1634
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 2: I thought he was a Feather.

1635
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 1: But the other problem, the other problem is that Aldo

1636
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: has motherfucking lights out takedown defense. Morob couldn't even isn't that.

1637
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 4: An interesting ship fight?

1638
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: No, he'll fucking smoke chew Wi's We talked Cheweis wins.

1639
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 2: He gets a huge push and a huge did you

1640
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 2: see on his first podcast episode he had that chick

1641
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 2: on and he asked her whether she's ready to take

1642
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:36,600
Speaker 2: down Drakes nine and a half inches and she just

1643
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 2: walked off?

1644
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: Oh man, no, I didn't see that.

1645
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 4: It was kind of like uh Aspinall and Nina drama

1646
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 4: that time.

1647
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 2: It's just it's got weird.

1648
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 1: Well, you know, everybody, fighters have lots of things to say.

1649
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,640
Speaker 2: Luckily they shouldn't get that weird in comparison, do we

1650
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 2: have a prediction. I mean we want all though to win.

1651
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 2: I want another Jeremy. Yeah, it's just it's just come on,

1652
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 2: TfL could have really used him. They really could have.

1653
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,560
Speaker 2: I could use an ten million DFL use him, Like,

1654
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 2: couldn't you feature jose although against.

1655
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: Like you think PFL knows what the fun to do

1656
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 1: with him? You just you just broke news that they

1657
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 1: were having a big show. Get that at the end

1658
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: of the No American TV.

1659
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 2: It's great, It's really great.

1660
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 4: Log I don't look you have nothing to say about

1661
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 4: this fight, do you.

1662
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 8: I kind of think Zobby is a live dog.

1663
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 1: That's that's I thought.

1664
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 8: I thought the odds would be flip flopped. I'm not

1665
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 8: gonna lie. I thought Jose Aldo would be a dog.

1666
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:26,719
Speaker 8: So I'm a little weary to take him at minus

1667
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 8: two hundred.

1668
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 2: That power still there, the delivery system is still there,

1669
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 2: the gas thanks. You know, it's getting shorter.

1670
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 1: And the interesting part about it is the leg kicking.

1671
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 1: Petro Munos is a dominant leg kicker. He got kind

1672
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 1: of neutralized in that one. Aldo is also a dominantly kicker.

1673
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 1: But Aldo is much better about slip and rip.

1674
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 2: But countdown they talked about when bringing back the old

1675
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 2: kickboxer Aldo, and I know they say that every everything

1676
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 2: that's a bunch of care about, but maybe they're seeing

1677
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 2: that in the scouting report.

1678
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: Just Okay, don't you spill more.

1679
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 2: Uh No, I've wiped it all up. I've got a

1680
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 2: judicious uh MAXI pat over here.

1681
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go, Let's.

1682
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,759
Speaker 2: Continue on down the line. How about this women's flyweight matchup?

1683
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 2: Former champion Alexa Grosso, coming off of the draw and

1684
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,640
Speaker 2: loss in succession against Valentine of Chevchenko, will take on

1685
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 2: an absolutely rising twenty eight year old Natalia Silva from

1686
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 2: Brazil who count it right now? She is eighteen and

1687
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 2: five with one draw overall, but unbeaten in the UFC.

1688
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 2: And when you look at some of those wins from

1689
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 2: Jazz Davisius through Andrea Lee Jessica on Droge last time

1690
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 2: about around, this is a very interesting potential crossroads matchup.

1691
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 2: But crossroads, Chuck Minden Hall, if we're buying as much

1692
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 2: stock as Luke is presenting in this seemingly in her

1693
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 2: prime great fighter is going downhill fast in terms of

1694
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 2: the skills are just evaporating off of her. Are we

1695
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:54,600
Speaker 2: overblowing the Grosso ain't shit anymore and should she be

1696
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 2: a betting underdog against a really good fighter in Silva.

1697
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 1: I don't think we're overblowing it either. I think that.

1698
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 6: The Grasso that that showed up at the sphere was

1699
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 6: not in any way the one who first beat chef Chenko.

1700
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 6: You know, and I know a lot of people and

1701
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 6: I was I've been doing it too. You kind of

1702
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 6: give credit to chef Chenko for kind of, you know,

1703
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 6: solving it. But I agree that there's there's definitely something there.

1704
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. You know that they

1705
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 1: was talking what was it, the famous soak sheets thing.

1706
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1707
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 6: She was a champion for a minute. I think she

1708
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 6: did her victory lap. I don't know if that somehow

1709
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 6: compromised her. You know, the hunger will.

1710
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 2: Find out the Egyptian cotton ring maybe quickly.

1711
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but one thousand thread counts, so we'll see.

1712
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 6: To me, that's the like putting her on this card,

1713
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 6: it becomes like a big showcase for the division. But

1714
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 6: I think one of the biggest intrigues is this fight,

1715
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 6: given that she's what thirty one now. For the longest

1716
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 6: time she was this prospect We always talked about her,

1717
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 6: she'll be there eventually. You know, she had some she

1718
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 6: slipped a few times, then she broke through. Now it's like,

1719
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 6: does you still have it at thirty one, dude?

1720
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 4: After the I mean, the quality of opponents she's been.

1721
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 2: Facing, she's been I mean, look, tell us speak a

1722
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 2: little bit deeper into that. Are you really that nervous

1723
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 2: that she's not physically washed but that she's lost sight

1724
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 2: of the plot.

1725
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 1: She appeared to have her confidence shattered a little bit,

1726
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 1: but her takedown defence just regressed.

1727
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 4: Like, but Silva's not going to shoot once?

1728
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 5: You know this?

1729
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:27,879
Speaker 1: No, no, she won't, And I think it's worth considering

1730
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 1: like a change of opponent might be good for Grosso

1731
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: at this point actually exactly what the doctor ordered. I'm

1732
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: not counting her out for that reason, but I'm just saying,

1733
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 1: over the course of two years and three fights, she

1734
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 1: got demonstrably worse. And that's hard to know exactly why,

1735
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: but I think the enormity of the challenge just kind

1736
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 1: of she almost psy liked herself out. I mean, to me,

1737
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: it's not so much physical issues as it is psychological ones.

1738
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 2: But what what ilk is she made of to go

1739
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 2: back on the Leon Edwards John Annett call, I feel

1740
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 2: like we can't. We can't like the idea that she

1741
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 2: can come back and put Humpty Dumpty back together. She's

1742
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 2: built like that, she's wired like that. She's a live

1743
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 2: dog in this matchup.

1744
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree with that. Yes, I fully agree that

1745
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: she's a live dog. Yes, But how do you how

1746
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 1: do you walk out of the Chevchenko trilogy? I mean

1747
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 1: without big questions? I mean I guess one way would

1748
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 1: do that be like, well, it's Chefchenko. We don't have questions,

1749
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 1: but I have questions, like your takedown defense should get

1750
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 1: better over the course of three fights, not clearly worse.

1751
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: And it wasn't like Chefchenko's takedown entries were dramatically different.

1752
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 1: It's just to shee her defense collapsed. That's a weird

1753
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 1: thing to happen for a fighter still in their physical prime.

1754
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 1: That's a weird thing.

1755
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 6: Is hugely disappointing for anybody expected a competitive tri like

1756
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 6: the trilogy of it, right like that you would get

1757
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 6: the best maybe at the end, or you'd get some

1758
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 6: back and forth. And I could see her coaches and

1759
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 6: everything just were just so disappointed and everything that happened there.

1760
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:55,680
Speaker 6: I just I feel like, maybe you're right, Maybe it

1761
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 6: is a confidence issue, maybe she rediscovers it here, but

1762
01:16:58,560 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 6: something was clearly off with me.

1763
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 2: So here's the deal about Natalia Silva. I'm as big

1764
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 2: of a fan as her, as her her high motor,

1765
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 2: her personality, her work ethic as I am.

1766
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 4: Fearful whether she'll be a true defeater of the elite.

1767
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 2: Despite the run that she's been on. She got to

1768
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 2: win over on Roger. I mean, she's making some moves here,

1769
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 2: but she showed a good chin down the stretch against Andros.

1770
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 2: She's showing some of those intangibles. I don't think she's

1771
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 2: enough of a power striker. She's a volume striker to

1772
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 2: really put people in the notion of being in danger.

1773
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 2: She's also not a.

1774
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 4: Big groundworker in that regard.

1775
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 2: If the old Grosso is willing to come back through

1776
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 2: that curtain, I'm wondering if this is the perfect elite

1777
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 2: opponent to remind everybody who you are against.

1778
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 1: If Grosso can work behind that job, I think you're

1779
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 1: onto something.

1780
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 2: But I just do you feel those limitations on Silva

1781
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 2: that I for sure, and.

1782
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 1: Again she has had She's done good work in UFC.

1783
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,560
Speaker 1: But remember she had a personal tragedy and had to

1784
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 1: come back from it in the whole nine yards and

1785
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: it takes a little bit of time and it can

1786
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 1: derail you a little bit. So you know what, we're

1787
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: kind of look, are we actually getting at her? I

1788
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 1: think we'll get a better one this time. But I'm

1789
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 1: saying Grosso has the tool Grosslo had the tools to

1790
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 1: beat Chivchenko, but she was a little bit overwhelmed physically.

1791
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 1: Silva is also a bit of a physical powerhouse is

1792
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:15,600
Speaker 1: a strong word, but you know she was able to

1793
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 1: match Onrodge to a degree, and I think that might

1794
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: also play a role, especially in the clinch. So to me,

1795
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 1: it's a question of like that jab from Grosso, putting

1796
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 1: it in arrange, scoring offense, scoring offense, making her answer

1797
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 1: for it. That's to me gonna be the big question here.

1798
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 2: This is the deepest women's division. Do you see when

1799
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 2: you look at Silva, I could see her with the title.

1800
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 2: Do you get that feeling?

1801
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like this this fight will fill

1802
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 1: us in a little bit that way. I don't know.

1803
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 6: I'm with you a little bit. You have to kind

1804
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 6: of see this first, but I do wonder you. I

1805
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 6: remember we talked about this before with the Sarah gone,

1806
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 6: Francis and Ghana thing. You're like, what if they do?

1807
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 6: You know, what if Francis comes out and wants to

1808
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 6: wrestleboy the weird The weird thing is, I'm like, if

1809
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 6: you feel like that could be a potential confidence busting

1810
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 6: thing to do with the plant something in her head?

1811
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see.

1812
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 6: I doubt she does that because she's never really shown

1813
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 6: that in her game, but sometimes you want to see

1814
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 6: people mix it up a little bit and not be

1815
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 6: one dimensional. It would be interesting if she did try

1816
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 6: to plant some fear in her head that she might

1817
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 6: do that.

1818
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 4: Don't forget chuckle was the water said?

1819
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 2: Maybe it's maybe it's poton story just the most poignant

1820
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 2: words ever said on the show.

1821
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 1: It turns out it was. It really was really was.

1822
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 2: What's the line on this one with the with these

1823
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 2: ladies in Flyway, Long Island?

1824
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 8: Sorry, I'm meeting h plus very professional minus two fifty

1825
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 8: eight silver.

1826
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: Wow. That's wow, that's pretty crazy. They've got doubts about

1827
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 1: your girl.

1828
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 4: I don't think she's washity here.

1829
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:43,639
Speaker 6: They've got they've got okay days of MMA, like betting,

1830
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 6: not knowing what's going on or over aren't they Like

1831
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 6: I remember back in the day, you'd see some lines,

1832
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 6: you'd be like, that makes no sense, Jose Aldo plus six, Like, oh.

1833
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 2: Bitch, interesting stuff right there. Well, let's go.

1834
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 1: I gotta lean Grosso.

1835
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 4: I gotta take the plus money here. I think that

1836
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 4: looks She's got to make it a little bit more

1837
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 4: of a messy fight her.

1838
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:08,679
Speaker 2: She does have great boxing, but I think she thrives

1839
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,639
Speaker 2: in chaos with that great boxing rather than the other

1840
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 2: way around. Silva likes to be clean with her strike.

1841
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 2: She likes to control that distance. She's got very sneaky kicks.

1842
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 2: But if Grosso can get to the clinch and make

1843
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:21,720
Speaker 2: it more of an inning, an inner fight, you were

1844
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 2: talking about innies and out, he's right, like, if she

1845
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 2: can make it more on the show, if it could

1846
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 2: be in any fight, it could be. The other thing

1847
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 2: is does it.

1848
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 6: Matter that, like so Grasso has been involved in several

1849
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 6: five round fights, Does it matter like I did, was

1850
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 6: she better in a three round where she can kind

1851
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 6: of like yeah, you know kind of?

1852
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 1: I think she where she was at when she got

1853
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 1: to that chev Chango series. I felt like she was

1854
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:52,799
Speaker 1: really peaking, Yes, seaking.

1855
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 6: So I'm like, maybe going back to three rounds where

1856
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 6: she can she doesn't feel like she has to conserve

1857
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 6: or anything like that.

1858
01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 1: Maybe that changes things too.

1859
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 2: You take away that championship pressure too.

1860
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see. Yeah. But at the same time, if

1861
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: you're Silva, this is a huge opportunity for you. I mean,

1862
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 1: she's going to be riding that one, you know.

1863
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, she has a win over Macy Barber too.

1864
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a this is been a good run.

1865
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting to kick off the pay per

1866
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 2: view card to round out the five fights, BSD, Ben

1867
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 2: Wah Saint Denis we I didn't think we saw this coming.

1868
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 9: Ben st Donkey, I mean, one dog, he is song

1869
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 9: and I there was the quote that Luke's mentioning is

1870
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 9: when he came out this week and said he's been

1871
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 9: kind of.

1872
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 2: Training himself the last two fights and he realizes maybe

1873
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 2: that isn't the great Like, I didn't see this losing

1874
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 2: streak coming, but I still feel like the future is there.

1875
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 4: Who was the original opponent that that.

1876
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 2: Just got Joel.

1877
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 1: Was supposed to be a fucking banger.

1878
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 2: Instead we get Kyle Preppole, the thirty five year old Windsor,

1879
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 2: Ontario and.

1880
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 1: Two in the UFC. In his initial run, they bounced him.

1881
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 1: He went four and one. I think he's got three

1882
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 1: first rout finishes. Just a Canadian home body there.

1883
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,679
Speaker 2: He lost decisions to Nordine, to leb and All and Hubbard.

1884
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 2: He screams, uh, you know what's that dude with the

1885
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 2: green hair? Chris Martino?

1886
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,719
Speaker 1: Right, a little better than that. Chrismino was not ready

1887
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,520
Speaker 1: for him. Okay, but the let that kids hear the scorecards.

1888
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:13,679
Speaker 1: They stopped that fight with like fifteen seconds left. Yeah,

1889
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 1: we're taking up. Oh look, but they let him take

1890
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 1: a hilatious beating anyway.

1891
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 2: Benoit still twenty nine, Yeah, knocked out by Poritier, stopped

1892
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 2: by uh moy Kano with the cut and that was

1893
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 2: a hilacious fight. I'm not throwing away the stock though.

1894
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 2: Where are you at in this experience, Judge?

1895
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 6: I remember maybe eighteen months two years ago, we were

1896
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 6: talking about the guys coming up, and he was one

1897
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 6: of the guys that we were like, watch out for

1898
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 6: this dude when he gets there. It's crazy to me

1899
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 6: that he's derailed this hard. Where now you're I mean,

1900
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 6: this is a setup for him. If he goes in

1901
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 6: there and loses a fight like this, I'm like, I

1902
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:52,440
Speaker 6: don't even know, it would be one of the biggest disappointments.

1903
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 6: That's how high I held him. At one point I

1904
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 6: thought he was going to kill It was a lock

1905
01:22:57,840 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 6: for me that he was going to beat Poorier. Yeah,

1906
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 6: and so I I don't know these.

1907
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 4: But didn't he take these fights with like legit medical issues.

1908
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:07,600
Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine how fucking dumb you have

1909
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 1: to be. I'm gonna fight Dustin Parier with no coach

1910
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 1: and staff infection and I think I'm going to win. Like,

1911
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:18,640
Speaker 1: your judgment has to be poor. No no, no, no

1912
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: no no. I'm sorry. I don't do this too often,

1913
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 1: but this one deserves it. Your judgment is ship. If

1914
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: you think you could beat Dustin Parier with staff infection

1915
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:34,560
Speaker 1: and you you haven't had a fucking head coach, you

1916
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 1: make very poor decisions.

1917
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 4: Okay, do we blame him for them? Mokana loss? Or

1918
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:41,639
Speaker 4: did that fight just get away from halfway?

1919
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:43,759
Speaker 1: Also another fight where you had no fucking coach.

1920
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 4: But I don't know how that's baby.

1921
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 2: Boots Schumann obviously do that at the.

1922
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 1: Level Wakano is slick and what Kano is another guy

1923
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 1: who had a bunch of losses and then really got better.

1924
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 1: He had momentum and that was a good Like he

1925
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 1: was a guy who's over aggressive the wrestling but not

1926
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,600
Speaker 1: quite sturdy enough in defense of jiu jitsu. Is the

1927
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: kind of guy Moreconna can just pick right off. And

1928
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 1: that's what you saw. So like, definitely there was a couple.

1929
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 1: It was just a moment in time. I still have

1930
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Speaker 1: high on BSD in the sense that, like, he's not

1931
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 1: too old, he's an A plus athlete, he has a

1932
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Speaker 1: go get her attitude. He just needs someone to guide

1933
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Speaker 1: him and make fucking good decisions.

1934
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 2: That just play matchmaker Monday. What coach is perfect for him? Well,

1935
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Speaker 2: he's in France, so I mean that kind of Hey

1936
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 2: you can you can reroot your life, all right if

1937
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 2: you want to see Juana was in a Valentina's camp.

1938
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 1: Ahead of this. Yeah, I would say he's a good

1939
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Speaker 1: coach for somebody like that who's got a good grappling

1940
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Speaker 1: prowess too. Honestly, the boys at kill Cliff, they come

1941
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Speaker 1: up with some winners down there. For sure. Henry Hooftof

1942
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 1: would be because he would you know Henry hoots. Yeah,

1943
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 1: Henry Hooft is one of these guys who doesn't shy

1944
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 1: away from like, oh you've got an aggressive style. He'll

1945
01:24:55,520 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 1: lean into it, you know what I mean? I stop that?

1946
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Speaker 8: Okay, you little missy Elliott love you give.

1947
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 1: Him the hip hop horn on his C and D jokes.

1948
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 1: That a good point and it's not fair to the rest.

1949
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 2: Now, look, are you intimidated by Chuck's willingness to put

1950
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Speaker 2: this shot through college and not drink it?

1951
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:15,600
Speaker 3: Is?

1952
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 2: That's well, scream things.

1953
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 1: See I didn't see that boggin por anymore. So I

1954
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 1: was sipping it, you know.

1955
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 2: Is that an invitation to go I need to be

1956
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Speaker 2: a dad after this?

1957
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 1: Wow? All right, okay, well that is morning drinker anyway.

1958
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Speaker 1: So that's that is your.

1959
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Speaker 2: UFC three fifteen pay per view main card. Bsd' is

1960
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Speaker 2: gonna win this.

1961
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:36,839
Speaker 1: Right should win that one. He's something like huge favorite

1962
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Speaker 1: minus nine hundred. Jesus, are you serious? I mean it's

1963
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 1: like a you know, patchwork opponent, right, like you're just

1964
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Speaker 1: kind of throwing somebody. DSD again is still a great

1965
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Speaker 1: athlete and has a hard nosed attitude that's enough to

1966
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Speaker 1: get the job done in all like, yeah, very good,

1967
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Speaker 1: very good.

1968
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Speaker 2: Indeed, before we talk about the featured prelimbs here up

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Speaker 4: And when you're looking ahead.

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Speaker 2: A picksick lineup based on this three fifteen card, as

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Speaker 2: I struggle to get some of the words out of

1982
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Speaker 2: my mouth there, I'm definitely looking at chef Chenko, who's

1983
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Speaker 2: got a history of going deep into fights. This is

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Speaker 2: the type of fight that screams distance and decision, the

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Speaker 2: amount of offense and possible sprinkled in of control time

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Speaker 2: on top that Valentina can give me. I feel like

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Speaker 2: that's a smart choice for a pick six lineup.

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Speaker 6: I'm not surprised you're going deep on on Valentina, but

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with Jasmine. I think that that's I

1990
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Speaker 1: You see, I'm just saying a fighter's name. He just

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Speaker 1: those are my two. Yeah, all right, I'll go binafi

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Speaker 1: or because I think it's gonna go the distance. She's

1997
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Speaker 2: Well, said Luke Thomas, as we get into the rest

2031
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Speaker 2: of this card, it might be time to get into

2032
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2033
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Speaker 1: All right, all right, enjoy father of the Year over there.

2034
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 2: I didn't spill as much as you guys out. You

2035
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Speaker 2: guys are I'm good.

2036
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 1: You had a good run. Okay, you had a good run.

2037
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 2: We're looking at a Canadian superhero coming back, Mike Malott.

2038
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 4: Do we have the same confidence we.

2039
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:24,480
Speaker 1: Sorry, what did you call him? Canadian superhero?

2040
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 2: He's built like that, Luke, But do we have the

2041
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 2: same confidence in Mike Malot that we used to As

2042
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 2: he enters this fight with Charles Radkey, can you break

2043
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 2: it down for us?

2044
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 1: Who was against Neil Magne Charles Ratt and that was

2045
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 1: in Canada too, right, I believe that was I think

2046
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 1: you're right, and he completely fell apart. Radkey's not Neil

2047
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 1: Magni in ways better and worse aggressive opponent could make

2048
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:49,639
Speaker 1: a difficult for him, big puncher.

2049
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 4: He did beat Trevon Giles talking about my Lot last

2050
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:52,680
Speaker 4: time out.

2051
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:55,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's got excuse me, some well rounded ability,

2052
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

2053
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 2: All right, there we go, Chuck.

2054
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 6: When we move on, they like it obviously if they're

2055
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 6: putting it as the last prelim, right they want They're

2056
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 6: going to.

2057
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 2: Try to give him more time at the Seine.

2058
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 4: That's his only loss in that show.

2059
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 1: You lose this one.

2060
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:12,600
Speaker 2: Long out, Look you believe her in malt or have

2061
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:14,640
Speaker 2: we at thirty three seen the best of what he

2062
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 2: will be?

2063
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 8: I don't know, but I'm intrigued with this fight because

2064
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 8: Radke's got one hundred percent takedown defense and a Lot's

2065
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 8: obviously going to want to take it to the ground

2066
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:22,679
Speaker 8: to win. So it's intriguing.

2067
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 1: It is.

2068
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 2: It is is as intriguing potentially as this next spout

2069
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 2: in the women's flyweight division, thirty six year old and

2070
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 2: Canadian favorite there In Kbec Jasmine Jazzdavisius has been on

2071
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 2: a very good run. Overall. It's four straight wins, but

2072
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 2: you can extend it out to six of her last seven,

2073
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 2: and we're talking about most recently Mara Buano Silva, So

2074
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 2: she's on a heck of a run, and now they're

2075
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 2: going to give her Jessica Androdge who we can count

2076
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 2: out in terms of like at some point we're going

2077
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 2: to say she's past it, but she's thirty three only

2078
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 2: somehow she's got the most wins in UFC female history,

2079
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 2: and every time we feel like she might be past

2080
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,240
Speaker 2: it to knock Mackenzie durn out.

2081
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,440
Speaker 1: So are you guys offended by the term gatekeeper?

2082
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:07,600
Speaker 6: Like I know some people are. Some people don't like

2083
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 6: to use that's how it's used. Yeah, because to me,

2084
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:13,440
Speaker 6: that's where she's at. I mean, she's like a gatekeeper.

2085
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:17,160
Speaker 6: Everybody who's anybody has to get through Jessica Andrage. If

2086
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 6: you do, you end up on that side of the ledger.

2087
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 6: We've seen it with all the women that are at

2088
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 6: the top five, right, like they're all they're all, you know,

2089
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 6: they all had to get through jess Gondre, and I

2090
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 6: feel like that's where Jasmine is here. To me, that's

2091
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 6: where Jessica Andre. Now, I don't even think it's a

2092
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 6: bad thing. I think that she just kind of she

2093
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 6: was a champion at one point. It's not like you're

2094
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 6: saying she's not capable of that. But where she's at

2095
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 6: right now. I feel like that's like she's the quintessential

2096
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 6: gatekeeper to me.

2097
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 2: Well, she had that rough stretch after she lost the

2098
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:47,440
Speaker 2: title where she was like selling all of her possessions

2099
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 2: to try to be able to pay for training camp,

2100
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 2: and she did like the photo shoot that she now regrets,

2101
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 2: like she went through some rough times. But yet she

2102
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 2: had a two flight win streak before that. Lost didn't Tealiasva,

2103
01:31:58,080 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 2: so I had a little bit harburn.

2104
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 1: She did.

2105
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 4: She's still in her at thirty three.

2106
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 1: I agree. I think that's really the sort of central

2107
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 1: issue here. And Jessdavisia is not for nothing, what thirty six,

2108
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 1: thirty five, thirty five, Yeah, so she's kind of got

2109
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 1: you know that you got to strike while the Irons

2110
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 1: relatively hot. I mean, I think that Androdge being such

2111
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 1: a big puncher and typically having decent takedown defense typically

2112
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 1: not always is going to be a real threat. I

2113
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 1: remember she had a fucking standing arm triangle on Amanda

2114
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 1: Lamos That's insanely difficult to do. So she's still got

2115
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 1: a little bit of that in her. It's just, you know,

2116
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 1: still one of the craziest KOs too, right with that slam. Yeah,

2117
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 1: the whole.

2118
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 6: I mean that thing will be on the on the

2119
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 6: b roll forever, like when they they're showing, you know

2120
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 6: something something big like that.

2121
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 1: Don't take down that comes with elevation like that.

2122
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 2: Indeed, that pile Driver which was her nickname, which is

2123
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:43,680
Speaker 2: wild for Jesseavissia.

2124
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 4: She is thirty six.

2125
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 2: By the way, only UFC defeats are a decision loss

2126
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 2: to Tracy Cortez in twenty three and a decision loss

2127
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:55,600
Speaker 2: to Natalia Silva the previous year. So fighters, you got

2128
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 2: to take the well, this is a good over under bet.

2129
01:32:58,120 --> 01:32:59,719
Speaker 2: This is a good time to bring in our betting expert.

2130
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 2: Long Luke, no cita, you're going over here, You're going under.

2131
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:04,599
Speaker 1: Here, I'm going over.

2132
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:09,880
Speaker 8: That's it, okay, going over, going over, that's the busiest decision.

2133
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 1: There you go.

2134
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 2: This would say a lot about where Jasmine.

2135
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:16,680
Speaker 1: Is and what the UFC can do with her. You know,

2136
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 1: if she can win something like this, they can start

2137
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:19,640
Speaker 1: moving here into title pictures.

2138
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 2: Just the same, very enthusiastic.

2139
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:24,759
Speaker 1: I mean yeah. Also, Androge still has a big fucking punch.

2140
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 4: She's got that that strong low base too.

2141
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 2: I mean she's tough.

2142
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 1: Do you remember she was picking people up over her

2143
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:31,719
Speaker 1: head at thirty five.

2144
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, was she only thirty three?

2145
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 1: How is it even possible? So she was she was like,

2146
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:44,680
Speaker 1: uh she was strong or bantam weight. To see what

2147
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:46,599
Speaker 1: she can do with these other way classes is insane,

2148
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 1: Like the Jeremy Stevens of of women's side. I know,

2149
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 1: I know, I know, but I mean just in general,

2150
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 1: like she just fights everybody be in a different way.

2151
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 2: Hard the female vonder lay in some ways.

2152
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that's more accurate.

2153
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 2: I don't not like that, like somebody who was a

2154
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 2: champion a ton of credit gunslinger, because she goes in

2155
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:08,639
Speaker 2: there every time with just an intensity and an attitude

2156
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 2: I mean, to get through or is going to be.

2157
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:10,639
Speaker 1: It's always tough.

2158
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 2: It takes punishment. Yeah, it's a hell of a runch.

2159
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 2: He's on, what about punishment in this light heavyweight till

2160
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:18,880
Speaker 2: I know it's not going to break your interest levels?

2161
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 2: Or in terms of the rankings, do we expect fireworks

2162
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:27,679
Speaker 2: when Lithuania's own Modestus Bukowskis takes on, iwan kute Laba

2163
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:29,719
Speaker 2: the damn moldolvan hulk.

2164
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 1: Right, it's a test of Bukowskis because you know kuter

2165
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 1: lob is going to come out just donking it up.

2166
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 1: But he's strong and powerful and aggressive and that's a lot. So,

2167
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's interesting, right. We talk about this all

2168
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 1: the time, like overwhelming someone with your offense quickly works

2169
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 1: in ninety nine percent of cases with the human like

2170
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 1: the human population, but guys who are really good at defense,

2171
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't and then they weaponize it against you. We

2172
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 1: are going to find out who bukowskis is in terms

2173
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:57,880
Speaker 1: of being able to deal with that. Who. By the way,

2174
01:34:57,920 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 1: guy got bounced with the organization kind of had to

2175
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 1: reac coop, had to come back.

2176
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 4: He's not a good run.

2177
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:04,560
Speaker 1: He's not a good run. So this is a this

2178
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:05,680
Speaker 1: is an interesting test for him.

2179
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:09,559
Speaker 2: Uh to close out that prelim portion Nava host Sterling

2180
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:12,599
Speaker 2: at light heavyweight against Ivan Ersulon.

2181
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 4: I don't you know, will I be there early enough

2182
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:15,720
Speaker 4: to see that?

2183
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:16,320
Speaker 2: That's the question.

2184
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's whatever fight.

2185
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 2: And the early prelims. You guys have any common.

2186
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 1: Love host Sterling City Kickboxing guy.

2187
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about the fights even before that, you know,

2188
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 2: I don't have a little Brad Katona getpecsad, dude.

2189
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 1: Brad Katona wins the ultimate fighter, gets bounced, comes back

2190
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 1: kind of up and down, and then they give him

2191
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 1: the dude who fought Umar I think it was on

2192
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 1: short notice, right, the Kazak guy who's actually pretty decent.

2193
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 1: But you know, it's like, oh, you got to fight

2194
01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 1: an unranked Kazakh who's actually fucking real good welcome back

2195
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 1: to the UFC, fuckhead, you know what I mean. And

2196
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:51,640
Speaker 1: you get to do it with like eighteen people in

2197
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 1: the Bill Center. Yeah, really tough assignment for Brad Katona.

2198
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 2: All right, Marc Andre Barrio, Bruno Silva there at middleway

2199
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 2: and Daniel Santa featherweight against Lee Jong Yong Long. Look

2200
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:05,040
Speaker 2: you got anything to sprinkle on the end of that,

2201
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:08,360
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're gonna be main card minuting it beginning

2202
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:09,679
Speaker 2: at like twelve noon on Saturday.

2203
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 8: I was gonna say, I'll be live for the full

2204
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:13,400
Speaker 8: card on Saturday. I want to say Brad Katona probably

2205
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 8: the real Canadian superhero. His nickname is Superman.

2206
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:16,640
Speaker 1: Uh.

2207
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 8: That's a solid fight, dude, That that first fight of

2208
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 8: the night that should be on the prelims.

2209
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 1: To me, I think that's yeah your na.

2210
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 2: On Nickelbeck Nay, Wow, I'm still you gotta you gotta

2211
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 2: you gotta say that.

2212
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 1: Wow.

2213
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 4: Uh, that's UFC three fifteen.

2214
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:34,559
Speaker 2: Before we close it out, though, there was that news

2215
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:37,840
Speaker 2: in the PFL that I'm sure are listening. So they're

2216
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 2: gonna do the PFL Championship Series in is it July?

2217
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2218
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 2: In South Africa? What's the city? They chose?

2219
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 1: Cape Town?

2220
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 2: And we're gonna get Johnny Evelin. It just says defending

2221
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:51,400
Speaker 2: his title, So is it the bellator title?

2222
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 1: Okay? Nobody? So fucking glad you asked that. I am

2223
01:36:57,360 --> 01:36:59,599
Speaker 1: so fucking glad you asked that, because, first of all,

2224
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 1: let me say this, let me, let me let me

2225
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:04,639
Speaker 1: say the nice things upside, nice things up front. Two

2226
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:07,760
Speaker 1: countries in my mind that have been consistently producing good

2227
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 1: fighters but have never had a big show are Argentina

2228
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 1: and South Africa. It is good that a bigger show

2229
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 1: is going to South Africa to you know, celebrate that

2230
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:21,680
Speaker 1: that market to an extent. Right. I actually think that's

2231
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:25,879
Speaker 1: a great thing. So I do give PFL credit for that. However,

2232
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:31,679
Speaker 1: holy motherfuck Koda Ditch was on this card and Johnny

2233
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 1: Eblin's on this car right, all right, all right, So

2234
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 1: you're asking, though about all the issues with this card.

2235
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 1: Number one, is it going to air in the US.

2236
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 1: Who the fuck knows?

2237
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:40,640
Speaker 3: Right?

2238
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 1: The mystery of the of the century will the PFL

2239
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 1: air in the United States? They finally have Eblin and Dakota,

2240
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:51,000
Speaker 1: like two great fighters on their roster in their card

2241
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 1: and you might might might not be able to even

2242
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 1: watch him. That's the number one.

2243
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:55,559
Speaker 2: Okay, would she be fighting right now if she didn't

2244
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:57,520
Speaker 2: come out publicly and make it embarrassed.

2245
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 1: Then probably not an Eblin too? Probably do they put

2246
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 1: her into putting in fucking Cape Town with no certified

2247
01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:05,719
Speaker 1: deal like holy ship balls? Okay, that's number one. Number

2248
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 1: two the way this card works, so it's PFL Africa overall,

2249
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:14,879
Speaker 1: but only one part of the card is called PFL Africa.

2250
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:20,120
Speaker 1: The main card is called the PFL Championship Series Road

2251
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 1: to Dubai. So let's back up a step. The main

2252
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 1: card in Cape Town, South Africa is PFL champion Series

2253
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 1: Road to Dubai. You have to be whoever came up

2254
01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:36,280
Speaker 1: with that decision at PFL to do it this way

2255
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 1: is the dumbest fucking there's ben was Saint Denis.

2256
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 4: Levels sup remind you of?

2257
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:44,080
Speaker 2: Like these four fights will be Bellator NYC, but the fights.

2258
01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 1: Before they in Saudi Arabia they did like the PFL,

2259
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 1: like the KSA card or MINA card, and then the

2260
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 1: main card was called something else. My understanding is they

2261
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 1: do this when they when they have to combine events.

2262
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 1: But whatever, So that's part two. They bastardized their own

2263
01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 1: titles so bad. I mean, could you add more confusion

2264
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:02,640
Speaker 1: to this unnecessarily? Why the fuck are you doing that?

2265
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 1: It's PFL number three, number three, the one you brought up.

2266
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:12,800
Speaker 1: So they list Johnny Eblin as a world champion, but

2267
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:16,080
Speaker 1: they don't call him a PFL champion in the press release.

2268
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Then they called Dakota Ditschiva a

2269
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:22,559
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four PFL tournament champion, but it's not clear

2270
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:26,680
Speaker 1: if she's defending any kind of title therein So it's

2271
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 1: like the naming convention doesn't work, the title convention is confused,

2272
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 1: and we don't even have a deal for uh North

2273
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:39,600
Speaker 1: American television distribution. When it's like you've got two of

2274
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 1: your premier fucking talents, who and Dakota Ditcheva. Maybe the

2275
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:45,560
Speaker 1: most exciting up and comer in all of them is

2276
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 1: MMA time. It's like dude, So this show, they had

2277
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:50,639
Speaker 1: the pluck are y'all doing the shows?

2278
01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:52,760
Speaker 2: They had no plan. They got called out and they're like, oh, yeah,

2279
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:54,640
Speaker 2: you're right. She hasn't fought the first half of this year.

2280
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 2: I couldn't.

2281
01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 1: Why couldn't Johnny Eblin have fought in Orlando? Why couldn't

2282
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:00,720
Speaker 1: Dkota Ditscheva have fought in Orlando? What the fuck are

2283
01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 1: they doing?

2284
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 4: Why would you not declare who's the actual champion?

2285
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:06,479
Speaker 2: Or make the turn, make the tournaments that you're making

2286
01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:09,439
Speaker 2: building your whole name around, make those for the title.

2287
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 2: I would actually tune in if you're going to do

2288
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 2: your best fighters per division in these brackets.

2289
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:15,960
Speaker 6: It's like heavyweight tournament, right, Like the first part is

2290
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 6: like heavyweight tournament, and the bantamweight and and.

2291
01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 1: It's and it's like local, so local. That's what I

2292
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 1: was going to ask product. That's why it's going to

2293
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 1: ask are they at least using some of the local product?

2294
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:26,680
Speaker 3: Oh?

2295
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 1: I looked at the guys' names, and they're all like,

2296
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 1: you know, two and one or three or something like that.

2297
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:32,599
Speaker 2: They're just they're still even though they made changes, they're

2298
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 2: still a slave to their own ways of organizing they're

2299
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:40,160
Speaker 2: still adding more things, looking horizontally.

2300
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:43,360
Speaker 1: Right now, Okay, put the camera on me. It is PFL.

2301
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 1: Nobody cares about the Champions League bullshit theme. Nobody cares. Oh,

2302
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna have PFL Mina, PFL Africa, PFL Europe. Hey,

2303
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:55,759
Speaker 1: look at me, Look at me, Look at me. Nobody cares. Okay,

2304
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,600
Speaker 1: what we want is quality and to be able to

2305
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 1: watch it without having to pire right on the on

2306
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:03,479
Speaker 1: the dark web. Okay, that's what we want. I don't

2307
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 1: want to have to get next to We.

2308
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 4: Get enough of our thrills in the dark web.

2309
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:07,800
Speaker 2: Don believe us.

2310
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 1: I can't believe that they're dude, I've never seen a company.

2311
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:14,679
Speaker 1: It's like, we got all this great stuff, why don't

2312
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 1: we arrange it in the most confusing worst way possible.

2313
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:19,639
Speaker 1: That's the PFL.

2314
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:20,879
Speaker 2: That is the the CFL.

2315
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 4: Right there, Wow, Chuck, how funny.

2316
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 1: Cape Town?

2317
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:25,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're going.

2318
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 1: I would like to be there. I would actually like

2319
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:27,720
Speaker 1: to go see Cape Town.

2320
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 6: I would it would be cool to go to Capet.

2321
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:32,639
Speaker 6: And that's the other thing, like they you take anything right.

2322
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 6: Like the UFC has said they're going to go to

2323
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 6: South Africa, they have not done it. You should, you know,

2324
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 6: it should be something to that, you know, like that

2325
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 6: you're going there first.

2326
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 2: You know, Chuck who was your celebrity crush at seventeen.

2327
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 1: At seventeen.

2328
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 2: Can Love Hewitt? Yeah probably No, Wait, you were like

2329
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 2: seventeen year.

2330
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:53,200
Speaker 1: Early eighties, right, he was, and she's probably pretty young

2331
01:41:53,200 --> 01:41:56,040
Speaker 1: at that point. Well, you're graduate high school. That was

2332
01:41:56,200 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 1: in the nineties. That's that's true for maybe like Belinda Carlisle.

2333
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 1: I liked her Belinda Carlist and uh, brother, this is

2334
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 1: an easy one.

2335
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:11,760
Speaker 6: All right, let's hear it. Oh, well, you know who

2336
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 6: what was what was the Spencer's Gifts. You'd go to

2337
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 6: the back and they had those posters like it was

2338
01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:17,200
Speaker 6: the Samantha Fox.

2339
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:19,639
Speaker 1: Yeah. First of all, Cidy Crawford was the first.

2340
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 2: Cindy is your very eighty centric answers brother, Yeah.

2341
01:42:22,160 --> 01:42:23,920
Speaker 1: Sidney Crawford was the first one. But you can help

2342
01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:24,479
Speaker 1: me with the second one.

2343
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 4: I don't get down with her or her dimple. I

2344
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:27,200
Speaker 4: was more Kathy Ireland.

2345
01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 1: Ye, Kathy Island's also a top She.

2346
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:31,120
Speaker 4: Reigned in Spain in ninety two and some people know

2347
01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:31,880
Speaker 4: what I'm talking about.

2348
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:37,000
Speaker 1: Uh the MTV VJ. Daisy was her last name. Says, yeah,

2349
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:42,080
Speaker 1: Daisy Flentes was a top tier choice for fourteen year old.

2350
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 2: I was more of a Cindy Taylor from E's wilde.

2351
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:47,280
Speaker 1: On, you know, just because this guys are a little

2352
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 1: bit racist. It's okay, that's all right, I forgive you now.

2353
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:51,160
Speaker 1: More of a chef chanko guy.

2354
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 2: She's from South Look, she's from South America. But that's cool.

2355
01:42:55,080 --> 01:42:57,880
Speaker 1: I know. Yeah. I like how this is now the

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Speaker 1: real talk. Okay, we can end this now, we can

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Speaker 1: lean him back.

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Speaker 2: Gee's young. He got uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: I don't like it when when you got start following

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Speaker 1: that thing. Ryan tends to think that longer broadcasts or

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Speaker 1: by definition better, and they're absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Chuck, could you tell the people where they can

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Speaker 2: find you?

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Speaker 1: You're right here?

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Speaker 4: Are you hanging out Glover?

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Speaker 1: The local methadone clinic? Are you that's the other place?

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Speaker 4: Like once a month? Do you see Glover?

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Speaker 1: Actually Glover?

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Speaker 6: I do see a lot, but I haven't recently. I

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Speaker 6: guess he's he's he's been out a lot more. But

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Speaker 6: generally speaking, if you're going to be like you're gonna

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Speaker 6: see a guy in town, it's gonna be him. You

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Speaker 6: won't see Alex Para as much but sometimes but yeah,

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Speaker 6: he's around you ever.

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Speaker 2: See Merle Potons x No I find we.

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Speaker 1: Can, we can. You can find my working on Crowned.

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Speaker 1: Yeah there, goodbye guys, long out look.

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Speaker 4: We can find you this weekend at the main card

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Speaker 4: minute probably yeah.

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Speaker 8: Do full card watch along for the pay per view.

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Speaker 1: Join me.

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Speaker 4: That's great, that's great, Luke Thomas, you have anything to

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Speaker 4: pump the.

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Speaker 1: Main comaine together and then post fight show.

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Speaker 4: Love it big big news on substack this week.

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Speaker 2: Anything cool.

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Speaker 1: Next week is gonna be a big week an expose

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Speaker 1: if you will. No, I'm sitting down with a policy expert.

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Speaker 1: You'll see how All right, wow, all.

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Speaker 4: Direction, Well, thank you for tuning in.

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Speaker 2: This episode of Morning Combat was of course brought to

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Speaker 2: you by DraftKings, where you already know with DraftKings that

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Speaker 2: the crown is yours. Thank you so much to Cuervo

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Speaker 2: for being a big part of what we do here

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Speaker 2: in pregame preview when we give it to you real

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Speaker 2: as real as possible, real real reel. If you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm talking about, follow us on those socials below,

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Speaker 2: our YouTube channels adjacent and all the stuff we do

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Speaker 2: right there. What a time to be alive. Just get

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Speaker 2: to you know, like they pay us to sit here

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Speaker 2: and drink fantastic blanco. This is my favorite, you know

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Speaker 2: test test uh, the fragility of our own careers with

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Speaker 2: really bad time jokes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm ready to go. Luke's got it.

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Speaker 2: Joseph A.

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Speaker 4: Banks with his name on it for Long Island, Luke.

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Speaker 2: For Out, Shout out the Ken right, Ken's great. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and those other guys.

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Speaker 4: That's Chuck Mintenhall, Luke Thomas, your boy BC.

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Speaker 2: I feel like he's looking at me very angrily. So

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Speaker 2: we are out of here.