WEBVTT - David Faustino Meets World 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:19.720 Oh, I watched Balloon Farm. 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:20.959 Will, what did you say? 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:22.920 I was like, I go, I grabbed idiot. 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:25.239 I was like, Will says, there's a really crazy movie 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:26.840 we should watch, and we had so. 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:28.319 Much fun farm. 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:29.520 Tell me about balloon Farm. 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:32.640 Oh, balloon Farm is a Magical World of Disney. 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:35.479 It's a wonderful Disney that we did, done magical rewind Ye. 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:35.760 Yeah. 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:38.920 Then, and so we're Will and I were getting together 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:42.120 to record in the City or a pod Meats World episode, 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:43.920 and I don't know, somehow he was. 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:46.040 Like, oh, you want to see an unhinged movie. 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:49.280 And indies really into watching bad movies, Like ever since 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:52.040 we watched Goblins two or you know what was it 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:56.720 called Trolls Too, which should have been called Goblins. Ever 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:59.040 since we watched that, he's like obsessed with watching, you know, 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:00.600 really bad movies and having fun. 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:02.840 So, yeah, we watch balloon Farm. 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:03.680 Painted it is. 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:07.759 It is about a dust bowl farm. And then Rip 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:12.000 Torn shows up, okay to Mara Wilson is on the farm. 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:16.959 He shows up and starts growing balloons. 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:24.959 Oh, and everybody is so happy to have balloons, like 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.280 they're starving, like they're literally it's a dust bowl, Like 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.679 there's there's there's no one able to grow crops, but 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:34.040 he grows balloons and changes everybody's lives. 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:35.960 And sells them for ten dollars a piece, to the 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:39.600 point where one family buys so many they lose their farm. 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.560 The weirdest a balloon, Yes. 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:47.319 And we're like, just you're sitting there trying to understand, 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:51.120 like the logic of this movie. It's okay, So like 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:53.120 it's based on a book, and you could tell it's 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.760 like a probably from the nineteen fifties or forties, because 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:58.880 it's like very old timey idea of like basically like 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:02.520 magic comes to and uplifts the spirits of these sad, 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:03.360 depressed people. 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:05.280 Like that's the idea is like Willy. 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.680 Wonka showed up and like made their life magical and 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:09.280 then he disappears into the sunset. 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.799 But the logic of it is like, but these they 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:13.720 need food. 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:15.600 Right, imagine. 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:20.760 Why he eventually Well, do you want me to ruin 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:21.400 the movie for you? 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.200 I can if you want, I'm probably you know what, 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:25.600 let me check my calendar. I'll let you know if 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:27.200 I'm going to be able to get to Balloon Farm, 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:29.320 I will not be able to get to Balloon Farm. 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.880 So what what then happens is Mara Wilson uses the 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:36.240 rest of the town's water supply to grow her own 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:39.600 balloons on his farm, which are water balloons that sounds 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.480 to hie up into the to the sky and pop 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.680 and rain. So then everyone can do crops. But the 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:47.720 thing that makes no sense is one of his pieces 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:49.880 of magic, which again we talk about a nauseum, a 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:53.400 magical rewind is he'll like, he'll have one lemon, and 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:55.720 he'll put it in a container in a picture, and 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.400 then all of a sudden it's lemonade and he has 0:02:58.440 --> 0:02:59.760 one coffee. That is what happens. 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:02.560 Puts if you open lemons and put water on it. 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:05.240 No, it's just one. He doesn't even cut it up. 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.080 He's just and then as somebody walks by, it turns 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.400 in pecan one per So I'm like, why is he 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.840 doing that with corn and the crops they're actually trying 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:17.840 to grow or money. And so for the book, though writer, 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:20.440 we did the deep dive. By we, I mean producer 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:23.440 Jensen did the deep dive. And what it is is 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:26.400 that they added like the book was just a kid's 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:29.600 very kid's friendly, five or six year old book about 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:31.960 a guy who grows balloons. And then they added all 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.480 the stuff about like the evil corporations coming in, people 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.119 losing their farms, like that was just added for the movie. 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.800 And apparently the gem which we could not find is 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:46.560 there was a we saw it for a fuzzbucket. There 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:50.360 is a series of these movies that are introed by 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:54.280 Michael Eisner, right, and he'll he'll do like a fifteen 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:56.720 literally like a fifteen minute or ten minute on camera 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.520 intro where he's like walking on Disneyland, no where, he's 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:01.960 just talking of BC on a set. And so apparently 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:04.680 the one for Balloon Farm opens with him doing like 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:08.040 a ten minute thing on hot air balloons, which the 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:09.680 movie is not about at all. 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:13.200 Oh my gosh, so is the part of the lesson? 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:15.280 Still trying to figure out the lesson is part of 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.640 the lesson. A give a man of fish, you feed 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:19.480 him for a day. Teach a man to fish, you 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.320 feed him for life. With the water like that, once 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:26.280 they figured out how to make rain, they were then 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:27.320 able to have crops. 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:30.960 It's more like like allow some magic and whimsy into 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:33.359 your life. Because everyone in the town is suspicious of 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:36.679 this new guy. And when he's growing and mar Wilson 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:39.280 is like much more welcoming and like able to see. 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.719 So they took a Santa story exactly and they made 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:43.080 it about me. 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:43.919 But the. 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:45.920 Shows up. 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.120 But the actresses that plays the mom is amazing. What's 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:49.479 her name from Rozanne? 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:50.280 Oh yeah, yeah. 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:55.760 The cast is incredible. It's Laura Metcalf. Yes, it's Laurie Metcalf, 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:57.960 marl Wilson. Mean, it's like a really good cast, but 0:04:58.160 --> 0:04:59.960 it is shot so poorly. 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.080 It's that weird. It's that weird video. 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:07.479 Moment where like video was so bad still but so 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.600 much cheaper than film that there was just they just 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:14.400 shot on video and it just looks it looks sped up, 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.400 like the frame rates all messed up, so it looks 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.400 like it's a sixty frames per second with this like 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:22.679 cropped bat and yet they're trying to do camera moves. 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.799 But you're just like it's just it's so it's dated 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:27.960 in the worst way. Like it's like, just shoot this 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.440 on film. Please shoot this on film, or don't try 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.240 and make it a movie. Just shoot on video like 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.760 a Boy Meets World episode, like you know, don't. But 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.240 instead it's like trying to be a movie and you're like, oh, 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:39.440 it's so painful to watch. 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:42.159 The director was Ay, a man named William Deer who 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.400 started on music videos, did Cheap Trick, Michael McDonald all 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:48.320 that stuff, then did directed. His first film was Harry 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.440 and the Hendersons and then he did the alowsome Richard 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:53.039 Grico movie If Looks Could Kill? 0:05:54.000 --> 0:06:00.240 So this is my guy. He that was a notorious flop, but. 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:00.800 He wrote it. 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:04.719 He wrote The Rocketeer, and he did J. T. T's 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:06.480 movie The Wild America. 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:07.840 Acution for him. 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:13.120 A bunch you and we were in this. Yeah, so 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.520 this guy was Yeah. I mean when you got Harry 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:18.240 and the Henderson's and If Looks Could Kill, come on 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:22.800 blon Farm. Yeah, that's that's one for the ages. 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.840 So he was like a really popular director. I was 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.640 wondering why this cast was attached to this movie. I 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.640 was like, this is an incredible because Mara at the 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:33.799 time was like the number one kids actor. 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:35.320 Yeah, that's so. 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:37.480 And then you got the cop who's gone on to 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:39.880 become famous. But he was like in a different movie 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:40.760 with his character. 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.520 It was like every time he's like trying to make 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:45.360 it it is for sure a pet detective and you're. 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:46.240 Like it's not working. 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:49.640 There's work where everyone else is in a like Dustball movie. 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.960 Yeah, Like it was so strange. He like came in 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.400 and he's like, I'm the sheriff and I got and 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.880 you were going like, oh oh, he's doing a different films. 0:06:58.760 --> 0:06:58.960 Yeah. 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.760 He saw Disney and was like, I know what they want. Yes, Yes, 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.280 welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Daniel Fishl, I'm Rider Strong, 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:06.240 and I'm Wilfordal. 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:22.320 We have interviewed what feels like hundreds of child actors 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.920 throughout the years on Pod Meets World, but today we 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.600 are chatting with someone who took it one step further. 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:32.840 He was a baby actor at just three months old. 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:36.000 He made his TV debut on a Lily Tomlin special 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.120 and then he got real lazy and he didn't work 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:42.400 again until he was six, with a small part on 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:45.480 Little House on the Prairie. Then came the guest star 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:50.320 cycle on shows like Highway to Heaven, Family, Ties, Say Elsewhere, 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:51.600 and Love Boat. 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:53.160 Will just lit up like a. 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.800 Christmas Tree Television Royalty. 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:59.000 Plus two Disney original movies that Will is going to 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:03.320 have to look into, Mister Boogady and Bride of Boogady. 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.680 Whoa I tell Yes, Uh huh. 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:10.239 And then in nineteen eighty seven, at just thirteen years old, 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.560 a once in a generation character came his way when 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:17.080 he was cast as Bud, the youngest of two children 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:21.720 born to Al, a shoe salesman, and Peg Uh Peg. 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:24.320 That show the. 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:28.720 Hall of Fame controversy, magnet culture shifting sitcom Married with 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:32.040 Children would become one of the longest running sitcoms in 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.920 American TV history, running for eleven seasons and two hundred 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:40.479 and fifty six episodes, helping lift Fox from laughable alternative 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:43.080 to bonafide competitor to Network TV. 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:45.280 How Big Was Married with Children. 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.920 The show, which at its peak averaged twenty million viewers 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:56.520 per episode, was remade in Argentina, Armenia, Bulgaria, Germany, Hungary, Israel, Mexico, Russia, Turkey, 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:00.640 the United Kingdom, and Brazil, where their title tried translated 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.240 to the War of the Pintos. 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:07.600 What are they the Pinto Family? 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:09.480 I don't know. 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:13.120 I'm married with Children translated to the War of the Pintos. 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:18.119 I don't Know in Brazil and now approaching its fortieth anniversary, 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:20.920 the cast has been reuniting last year for a sold 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.360 out show at the Wiltern and just last month at 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:25.440 the Orpheum as part of the Netflix Is. 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:26.280 A Joke Festival. 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:30.000 All this and he somehow found himself as a West 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:34.480 Coast hip hop pioneer, bringing rap music and NWA to 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:35.440 the Sunset Strip. 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:37.360 This week on Podme's World. 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:41.640 From a show that critics called zestily lowbrow, sex obsessed, 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:47.000 utter trash, and the crudest comedy on primetime television, It's 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:51.240 Bud Bundy aka Grandmaster b David Faustino. 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:57.400 Hey, guys, how are you never get an outdoor interview? 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:01.880 This is awesome to enjoy my backyard. I love it 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:05.760 out here and it's shady, so that's nice. I just 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:08.640 moved and like one of the prerequisites is I had 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.520 to have a backyard. 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:11.959 Which, yeah, some backyard space. 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.320 Oh my god. Yeah, I love it. So tell me 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:16.679 because I just sat down, like I didn't look at 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:18.480 what's what? Tell me a little bit about the show, 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:19.320 just if you can. 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:20.960 About our podcast. 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:25.000 Yeah, sure, So we are a boy meets World rewatch podcast. 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:26.280 We do two episodes a week. 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:29.560 The first the first episode a week is us going 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:33.240 through scene by scene of an episode in chronological order, 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.199 starting with episode one, we've made it all the way 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:36.120 through season seven. 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:37.079 Oh wow. 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:37.960 And then our. 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.680 Second episode of the week is an interview episode, and 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:45.559 we have interviewed all the writers and producers and props 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:49.640 and hair and makeup and guest cast and background actors, 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:54.119 anyone we've been able to pull who was directly connected 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:57.440 to Boy Meets World. And then also we expand on 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:01.600 that to anyone who was a child actor, anyone who 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.160 was on a show around the same time we were people. 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:05.800 Going through every crew member and. 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:10.000 Here you are. 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.200 That's so while because I'm doing something very similar. It's 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:16.480 it's it's it's uh so it's interesting to talk about 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.760 that because I I didn't I really didn't know you 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:20.800 guys were doing. That's so cool because I'm doing one 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:25.360 where I have the audience in on the show. We'll 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.880 have like you know, it's it's it's like a mod 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.880 cast we call like a member's only podcast, and so 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.360 you become a member and then you know, you get 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:36.920 to come to the Zoom parties. I we just started 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:40.320 ours like uh two months ago, so we do it 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:40.959 bi weekly. 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:42.319 Who are you doing it with? 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:46.680 So it's myself and my my partners who like you know, 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:49.040 help me create the platform and everything, and my co 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.720 host a guy named Darren Blat, But I have like 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.280 so like the first week we had Amanda Burs, who 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:57.600 played the neighbor on Mary with Children, and then we 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:01.800 had we had the the No Mam Guys, which was 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:03.959 like Al was like, you know, a group of guys 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:07.160 that he hung out with, and then we had Ed O'Neill. 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:11.360 Sure next week, So I'm sorry, but Amanda was your 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:15.400 first differ jumping right in, Amanda was your first guest. 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.640 Wasn't Amanda one of the few people that there was 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:21.280 a quote unquote problem with? Isn't you were You were 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:23.920 famously now with me, But weren't you one of the people, 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.480 not only one of two people not invited to her wedding? 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.640 Yes, but I also was like I was also really 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:33.079 young and really immature, and like, you know, I can 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.200 see why she might not have wanted to invite me. 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.240 But that's I'm just saying, that's really cool that you 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.120 guys have reconnected and that she came on. 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:39.640 Your show and everything. 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:41.640 That's awesome, totally fine. I mean Ed and her have 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.439 a little bit more of a beef than I than 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:47.160 we do. But like even when Ed was on. We 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:50.000 told him, I told I didn't tell him Amanda had 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.760 been on yet, perfectly because I thought, okay, I got 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:54.559 him to do the show, and I don't want to 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:56.959 do anything to screw that up. So I told him 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.160 while we were doing it, and he's like, oh yeah, 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.640 I mean he didn't. He talked very nicely of her. 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.720 But there's that great clip. I don't know. I'm guessing 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:07.480 you've seen it because you're talking about it, where he's 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:12.200 he's being interviewed by like TV Academy or something like that, 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:15.280 where he goes into he goes at length into this 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:17.560 whole ordeal that the two of them have and it 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:19.480 gets funnier and funnier. 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:22.760 I actually, no, I haven't one I saw. I just 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:24.640 saw a clip of you talking about the wedding. 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:29.800 Oh you must. You must find it and watch it. 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:31.959 We will look that up. 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:32.600 That's great. 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.719 So that's why, that's why this is actually the the 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:37.319 the name of the show I do. It's called The 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:38.840 Bundy Club. So so cool. 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.280 So do you watch the episode with the fans? 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.880 So we what we do is we take an episode, 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.040 so we don't go in chronological order like you guys. 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:49.320 It just depends on like what guests we have, and 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:53.200 we let the guests pick the episode or episodes in 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:56.000 this case, like tomorrow, I have David Garrison, who played 0:13:56.000 --> 0:14:01.120 the first Marcy's husband and and and so he's on 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.040 and that's really cool. It's really cool. Like fans were 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:07.360 going crazy about him, like they went crazy for Ed, 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.079 but it's almost like they're more like, oh my god, 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:14.840 like Steve no and so he got So he's We 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.440 picked a few episodes as three episodes that we're doing 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.360 tomorrow night, and so the fans watch it, right, the 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:22.720 homework is to watch it and then we all come 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:26.560 together and we break the episode down in that that's awesome. 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:31.240 Yeah, well, before we jump into talking about the Netflix event, 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:35.120 I did want to say, you might be the person 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:39.600 who started acting the youngest to ever appear on our show. 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:41.360 How did three months old? I would hope? 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:45.560 So I was did you find yourself sharing a credit 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.520 with Lily Tomlin before you even had your first tooth? 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:52.360 You know? Well, the funny thing about that is is 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:55.560 I actually played her daughter. So I always say that's 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.720 how small my penis was. From the they hired me 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.720 as as a as a daughter. But yeah, she so 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.640 she's like the setup of that. Okay, I'll go back 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.880 a little bit. My dad was a costumer, uh for 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.160 you know, his whole career. He was that's what he did. 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:14.520 And uh and my older brother, who's eleven years older 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.280 than me, like, was this beautiful child. I don't know 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.480 where he came from, but he was just like, you know, 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:22.520 really just and uh, this guy was producing a commercial, 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:24.280 was like, oh my god, this kid, I gotta So 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.480 that's kind of how it started. And so we all 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:29.080 at one time or another, there's four of us were 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:32.240 you know, actors. We're all still in the business. And 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.800 one of my brother now that that brother, he's like, 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.760 you know, he's like the audio main mixer for like, 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:41.720 you know, the Voice and American Idol. He's got two Emmys. 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:43.960 And I always say, somebody in the family had to 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:47.240 get an Emmy, right, I say, can you let me 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.400 borrow one of them? You know? And then and then 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.400 I just kind of fell in line, and uh, you know, 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.600 and uh in that in that episode or that show, 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.240 I guess it was the Lily Tomlin special. She was 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.080 she's like a clown at the circus, I guess. And 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:02.760 she's rushed to the hospital to have a baby, and 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:04.920 her baby's a clown, and I'm that clown. And here 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:06.920 I am still a clown. 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:10.080 Very far now an adult clown. 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:13.080 Though an adult clown three months old. It's gonna be 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:14.240 tough to beat that one. 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.960 I think. I think it's it goes down in the records. 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:21.520 Yeah, yeah, unless some unless somebody's ultrasound is actually used 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.320 in the show. I think you're gonna, you're gonna, you're 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:25.200 gonna take that title. 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:25.920 Sit on that person. 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:32.600 Well, after that role, you waited until you had really matured. 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:36.200 You waited until about six years old to pursue acting 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:36.880 full time. 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:38.600 Was is that right? It could be? 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:39.880 Yeah? 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:40.200 Yeah? 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.560 Were you were your parents still on board? Were your 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:44.920 siblings still in it too? 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:45.200 Like? 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.640 Was everybody just gung ho about it from the get go? 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:50.400 Yeah? We all really, like we enjoyed it, you know, 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:54.160 and it was it was it was always fun to us, 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.560 and like, you know, we'd get to travel the world 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.120 because of it, Like my mom and I were extremely close, 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:03.920 Like we we went all over the Middle East, Europe, Hawaii, like, 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.639 you know, we got to travel and and it was 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.639 it was a lot of fun. And uh, we you know, 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.679 we really enjoyed it. And you know, it's funny you 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.359 say that because I, as I was saying about the watch, 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:17.160 you know, rewatching the episodes that we watched with the fans, 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:20.280 I was watching one because David Garrison picked one of 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.560 the ones, and it's called Buck Staves of the Day. 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:26.639 We go like, uh, we go camping, and one of 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:28.840 the kids that we take camping is my little brother 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:32.360 who's six years younger than me, and he's in. He's 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:34.840 in a few episodes. Actually, they brought him in like 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:36.879 to four or five episodes, and that was one of 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:38.720 the ones he did when he was super young. So 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.440 we're all, you know, but he works in audio with 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:45.440 my other brother. They may have made the right choice there. No, 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:46.480 I don't know. 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:50.240 Is it four boys or do you have a sister too? 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:53.800 One sister and three boys? Gotcha girl? Yeah? 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:57.199 Well, so it's so interesting because like we all like 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:59.800 by the time our show was up and running, there 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:03.600 was sense of like normal life that like acting had 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:05.399 sort of pulled us away from. But it sounds like 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:07.800 for you you were just always in the business, like 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:10.440 your family, so there was no like alternative. 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:12.440 There was no like normal life, was there. 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:14.520 Yeah? No, that was really it. I mean, you know, 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:16.600 I'd go back to school. I went to this little 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:20.720 Catholic school in Burbank called Saint finbarr On all of there, 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:24.159 and you know, I would always it always. It always 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:27.639 struck me how many kids were not actors. Like to me, 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:29.679 it's like you just said, it's like it was so normal, 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:32.439 that was our lives and like, you know, everybody, we 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:34.560 sort of knew it would would. And then you go 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:36.600 back to my school and like I was like the 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:40.560 only kid that was an actor in that whole you know, school, 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:43.320 and so consequently, you know, I was never like great 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:45.680 at sports. I was never the cool kid. I was never, 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:48.639 but I I got along with everybody, like I was 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:52.000 that guy who melded all the people. Yeah, you know, 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:53.880 part of it was that, you know, I'd come back 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:55.880 and they'd see me in this commercial or that show 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:59.199 or you know, and and uh so bye bye by 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:01.520 kind of by that way, I was popular with the kids. 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:03.960 But what was interesting is when I really hit it 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:06.520 big with married with children, and I tried to like, 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:09.920 you know, they say that, you know, fame doesn't change you, 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:12.240 it changes the people around you. And maybe some of 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:14.639 that's true. Maybe some of it's not. But it was 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.560 very strange when I after success really hit and I 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:19.080 tried to hang out with some of these guys. They 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:21.280 I could tell there was like this weird like they 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:24.040 were waiting for me to be a jerk. You know. 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:27.640 I tried my hardest to sort of you know, hang 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:30.120 out with them again, and it never. Some of those 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:36.960 guys just they weren't able to to. I don't know, yeah, guys, 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:39.560 it was very strength. So so I dropped them all, 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:40.520 and now I have new friends. 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:56.360 You got good friends. Was there ever a time between 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:59.240 you know, six and married with children when you were like, 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:01.000 I don't think this for me. Maybe I'm just going 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:02.520 to be a regular person. I don't want to be 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:03.440 an actor. No. 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:06.680 The only times I would ever maybe have those thoughts 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:09.199 is when I would, you know, as you guys know well, 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:12.480 is when I would get really close on an audition 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:14.919 and I would call back, call back, call back, and 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:17.600 then you know, you're between it's between you and three guys, 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:20.520 and I'd lose it. I would take that really hard, 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:22.560 and I would like cry in my bed and be 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:26.640 in a position and and and and and then I went, 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:29.199 my you do I want to do this. But I 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:31.680 always just got back out there and just kept swinging, 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:36.120 you know, for for every every every strike you get, 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:39.080 for every for every thirty strikes you maybe hit one 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:42.320 out of the park. Yeah, definitely, That's just the way 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:42.960 it goes. You know. 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:46.600 Well, that early run of shows you appeared on is 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:49.760 pretty historic little house on the Prairie Highway to heaven 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:53.120 saying elsewhere. But I know Will is going to want 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:56.040 to hear everything about Family Ties. 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:00.440 Michael J. Fox and Family Time. It's like one of 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:01.639 the reasons I became an actor. 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:04.160 That show was fun because I was a fan too. 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:06.159 That That's the cool thing is I was already a 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:07.359 fan of that show is one of those shows I 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:10.760 would watch and so getting to get on getting to 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:13.159 be on that was like, I was like, holy, you know, 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:16.680 like you said, Michael J. Fox and Justine and this 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:19.880 is a this is a weird story that they may 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:24.720 not want me to tell, but oh well, I remember 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:27.040 because I was nine when I did that, and I remember, 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:29.480 you know, I was a fan. And I don't know 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:31.560 how long this last. I had this scene where I 0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:33.399 would I'd enter the house with the two of them 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:34.800 and I remember, We're like you know, you're at the 0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:36.640 front door and you're out off the set and you're 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:40.520 off camera. I remember, I just I just remember them 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:44.720 like making out furiously like you know, and then and 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:47.880 then it was like q enter like again. I don't 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:49.639 know how long that lasted with them. It was probably 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:55.359 just a little fling or whatever. Justine and and Michael. Yeah, 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:59.840 wow cool. It was just like, what's going on here? 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:06.639 I thought you guys were brother and sister when I 0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:09.439 see how it goes here. That's so. 0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:15.080 Was your dream always to get on a weekly sitcom? 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:15.600 Was that? 0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:15.840 Like? 0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:17.880 For Will? That was just always the goal? 0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:21.000 Yes, okay, I mean that's what you know, because you know, 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:23.600 you can see the kids who have these series right 0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:24.399 in our world. 0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:26.800 It was like there are series like how do you 0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:27.360 do that? 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:33.239 Amine? You're fine? And and so I really wanted that 0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:35.240 bad and I you know, I did several pilots and 0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:37.199 I did the show that went for five episodes that 0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:39.679 no one saw, you know, I did the gamut and 0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:41.720 then uh, you know, Mary with Children had and it 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:44.720 was already so they had hired two other kids to 0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:48.000 play Budd and Kelly and shot the pilot and everything. 0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:50.080 So when we when we did land it Christina and 0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:54.080 I it was already sold. So it was like, you know, 0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:55.879 it was it was crazy. And now those are the 0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:58.080 days of like answering machines. And I remember going to 0:22:58.160 --> 0:23:01.240 Network and you know they you know how they do, 0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:04.800 They pair people up, and they paired Christina and I 0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:07.480 up and and then so by the time we drove 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:09.600 from Fox, you know, my mom was driving me obviously 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:12.560 from Fox to back to our house in Burbank. We 0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:15.320 got home, There's one message and it was blinking and 0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:16.919 I was like, Emma was my agent saying that I 0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:18.000 had had booked. 0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:20.600 Yeah, gosh, those are the good old days when you 0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:22.520 could come home and see a message and not know 0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:26.080 what it is and be excited. Now it's like the 0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:28.440 second you wouldn't have even made it to your car 0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:29.879 before you would have known the answer. 0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:32.280 You know, that's how it goes, right, Yeah, everyone in 0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:34.119 a different direction. That's my favorite. 0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:38.520 I love that one. So then they just reshot only 0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:40.800 the Bud and Kelly scenes after they cast you guys. 0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:41.760 Was that weird? 0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:46.400 No, it was pretty pretty easy. And normally, I mean 0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:49.359 that set was you know, and and I think ed 0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:52.199 and Katie and Christina all, you know, attest to this. 0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:55.040 It's like they all say, there's never been a there 0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:58.000 was never a job before or never been a job after. 0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:00.960 That was quite like you know, thes Ron and Michael, 0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:04.320 they were just these like hilarious anything goes guys. They 0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:07.760 were just the greatest guys guys, and just it was 0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:09.720 just a fun and besides the little beef with Ed 0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:12.359 and Amanda, like there was no I don't know, it 0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:15.119 was just anything goes. It was very fun and open 0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:17.280 and we didn't over rehearse anything, and it just it 0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:20.959 was just a wonderful set to be on. It really was. 0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:23.720 And how did you guys feel about Fox at the time, 0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:27.560 because Fox was still kind of new, unproven, right, you 0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:29.720 guys were part of the reason that it became what 0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:31.880 it became. But did it feel like you were on 0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:33.880 like a sort of rebel. 0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:37.280 Well, no, it felt like because you know, again, we 0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:38.800 all talked about how we all wanted to be on 0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:42.200 series as actors, right, right, And that was the sort 0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:44.960 of caveat. Is that the right word. I'm not sure 0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:46.320 it was like that. It was like the oh, but 0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:52.679 it's but it's beyond it, but no one will see it. 0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:55.479 And that was the truth. For three years. And I 0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:57.400 always tell this story and you probably heard me tell 0:24:57.400 --> 0:25:01.440 it before, but I you know, I I had worked constantly, 0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:04.040 but never was no one ever went, hey, that's the guy. 0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:05.879 And you know, we all want that fame. It's in 0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.239 us that we all kind of want recognition for what 0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:11.959 we do. And like season two, or maybe it's end 0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:14.280 of season one. I remember I went to the mall 0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:17.520 and I had this married with Children T shirt and 0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:20.320 you know, like the first two seasons, no one watched 0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:23.119 the show. They went back and watched it later, and 0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:25.159 I remember wearing this T shirt to the mall with 0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:29.280 my friends and not a single person was like, oh, 0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:32.680 I want no one And I remember going, fucking, it's 0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:34.560 never gonna happen with this. And then you know, the 0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:38.000 third season it caught fire and then it was like 0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:40.280 then I went through that phase where I was like 0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:44.880 a teenager, an awkward teenager in this crazy amount of fame, 0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:48.160 and I did for about three or four years. I 0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:52.320 hated being recognized unless it was on my terms, when 0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:54.600 I wanted it, where I wanted it. But for the 0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:58.160 most part, I just was like I was pretty miserable 0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:01.080 until I learned to embrace it. Like eighteen, you know, 0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:04.200 I was just like I yeah, and you know, people 0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:05.760 will try to come give me love, and I was 0:26:05.840 --> 0:26:08.359 super guarded, like you know, how dare you like what? 0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:11.199 It was just so weird, It was so weird, and 0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:12.760 then I, like I said, I learned to embrace it. 0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:14.600 And then from then on it was just it was fun, 0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:16.320 you know. Yeah? Yeah? 0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:20.600 Were you a precocious teenager and were you always wise 0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:24.879 beyond your years? Because obviously Bud took a certain type 0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:28.440 of child actor, like not just anybody could play that part. 0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:32.280 Did that did it fit you as a person somewhat? 0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:36.400 Yeah? And I heard this story not until I watched 0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:39.600 Michael moy because I was I had him. I had 0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:41.760 him on a podcast I was doing years ago, Michael Moore, 0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:43.800 one of the creators, one of the two creators, and 0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:45.800 I watched some you know videos, and I watched him 0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:48.720 in an interview. Go what did he say? He said? Uh, 0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:50.760 he said he had you know, he had this this 0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:54.840 sweet personality and smile, but with the devil in his eyes. 0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:59.480 And I was like, okay, I'll take that. Yeah, so 0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:01.840 I guess on some level, yeah, and we you know, 0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:04.879 they write for us. Right after a while, they write 0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:07.359 for all of us and like our strengths and and 0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:10.080 so you know, you kind of meld yourself with what 0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:12.320 they're writing, and then they start to write for you, 0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:15.359 and so yeah, absolutely, you know, it's definitely a part 0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:17.760 of who I am. 0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:20.399 Tell us a little bit about the family dynamic, because 0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:23.080 so much of the magic of married with children was 0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:24.000 the core for. 0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:25.320 And how you all meshed. 0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:28.600 What do you remember about those early days and getting 0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:30.680 to know Ed and Christina and Katie. 0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:35.480 I mean, it was so great because again we were 0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:40.040 on this fledgling, fledging, fledgling network that no one knew, 0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:41.679 and you know, the writers would make fun of it 0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:43.679 on the show all the time. Like a couple of 0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:45.240 times they'd be like, you know, he'd say we were 0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:47.879 watching TV, and he'd say, like, assume Fox, you know, 0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:51.359 assume Fox network position we'd have like you know, like 0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:55.320 antennas and like metal, you know, right, So they would 0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:58.159 poke fun of that a lot, and they do it 0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:00.080 all the time with like what the announcer would say 0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:02.560 on the television that we were supposed to be watching, 0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:04.439 And so they poked a lot of fun. But we 0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:07.080 would go to these you know, the first two seasons 0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:09.400 they would have us go to these like mall openings, 0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:12.080 and we'd be sitting there at these tables and nobody 0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:14.280 knew who we were. We'd get like these random few 0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:16.919 people who were like rabid watchers, but other than that, 0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:18.880 no one. So we kind of went through it together, 0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:22.240 and none of us were really famous yet at all, 0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:24.120 so it was like we were all in it together. 0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:28.200 And was speaking of David Garrison, like, who played the neighbor. 0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:30.840 He was a very That guy's a great actor. He's 0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:34.920 a brilliant actor. Came from stage, went back to stage 0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:37.160 and has been in New York doing stage ever since 0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:40.040 to this day. And I learned a lot from Ed 0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:43.440 and him. You know, I would always ask them for like, 0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:45.800 you know, it's this, and David would help and give me, 0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:49.000 you know, adjustments, and then I just started, you know, 0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:51.800 copying ed a lot in his mannerisms and what he 0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.440 did because he was always just hilarious to me, and 0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:57.680 that really worked. And so we were all in it together. 0:28:57.840 --> 0:29:00.800 And you know, Christina and I we're in the same 0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:04.239 school room together. We were at the Sunset Gower Lot 0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:05.760 where'd you guys shoot Boy Meets. 0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:09.760 World, Disney KTLA and CBS Radford, got. 0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:11.320 It, got it. So you know, you know where we're 0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:15.600 on Sunset Gower, it's this like a little lot, but 0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:19.480 that did everything. Buildings were falling apart, like it was 0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:22.800 just so like and yet Who's the Boss was there 0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:25.080 and all of these big shows and I was already 0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:28.800 Who's the Boss fan, and you know, as most of us, 0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:32.520 you know, had this horrific crush on on Alyssa. Yeah, 0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:35.640 and and I remember because it was like our school 0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:39.920 room and then like two doors down was Alyssa and Danny, 0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:44.280 you know, Pentato and uh and I remember just you know, 0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:46.840 they they talk about being tongue tied, and I literally, 0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:50.280 I like I learned what that that the definition of 0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:54.080 tongue tiede meant when I like would try to talk 0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:56.440 to her because I was literally I was like my 0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:58.360 birds wouldn't come out, you know, And I had this 0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:02.400 painful crush. But yeah, it was, it was. It was 0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:05.520 a great experience. You know, I'm still we're still all 0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.960 extremely close to this day, like super close, you know, 0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:14.280 like I see Katie constantly all the time, and her 0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:18.440 and her husband Kurt and I are very close and 0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:21.200 and ed and I mean we were all just extremely close, 0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:24.240 we're on the same text threat and we're we're always talking, and. 0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:26.680 So yeah, you talk about oh right, I was just 0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:28.960 gonna say, you talk about how good all the actors are. 0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:32.360 I started at the Hartford Stage in Connecticut, which is 0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.360 a great stage, in nineteen eighty six. I was ten 0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:37.440 and two years before. The first play I ever saw 0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:41.160 there was of Mice and Men where he's playing Lenny, 0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:43.760 and he was so good. It was like at eight, 0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:45.680 I was going, oh my god, this guy's amazing. 0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:48.520 Do you know the story behind that? And no, oh, 0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:51.560 that's funny you bring that up, because it wasn't until 0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:53.440 a couple of years ago I learned this. You know, 0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:56.440 they couldn't cast out. They had the whole family besides 0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:59.040 Christina and I had the kids, they had the neighbors, 0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.800 they had Peggy, but they couldn't find their Aul and 0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:05.160 they were searching everywhere, and they you know, all the 0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:08.120 funny guys that went out to like, you know, they 0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:11.600 thought Sam Kinnison there was who was the other actor 0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:14.760 you know, uh, Randy Quaid and all these guys that 0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:17.560 they just they just didn't you know, And and and 0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.480 Barry Diller at Fox really wanted somebody famous to carry 0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:24.360 this thing so much so it was sold for twelve 0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:28.080 more episodes. And Ron and Michael like didn't want anybody 0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:32.200 that that that Fox wanted. And Mark Hirschfeld, you know 0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:35.920 the casting director, Mark Hirschfelder, brilliant casting director, just the 0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:41.280 brilliant casting director. And he went to that play, uh 0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:43.760 and saw off mice and men and it was there 0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:49.880 that he went, this is our guy. And they tested him, 0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:52.680 and you know, Barry Diller, they they didn't want him, 0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:55.080 like at all, and they they they lost six of 0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:59.080 the episodes based on their decision to cast ed, and 0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:02.480 to their credit, they still went forward with six episodes 0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.560 and they they they did it, and you know the 0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:08.160 rest is history. Yeah. Well, it's also wild that you 0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:08.959 saw that play. 0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:10.479 Yes, that was I was say eight years old and 0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:12.800 I was on that same stage two years later in 0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:15.600 the Dolls House. But I mean at eight, I was like, 0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:18.200 who is this guy? I mean it was really incredible. 0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:21.800 Where is that? So? How big is that theater? Not big? 0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:24.960 It's probably thirty nine, yeah, ninety nine to maybe one 0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:25.800 hundred and fifty. 0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:26.480 Oh wow. 0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:28.520 But it's like you would you would look at the 0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:30.280 pictures of everyone that was up there, so when I 0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:33.320 did a Dolls House, it was David Stratharn and Mary 0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:36.840 McDonald and Jerry Bammon and Mark Lamos was the artistic director. 0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:38.640 I mean, it was a bunch of pretty outstanding. Yeah, 0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:41.240 a bunch of hats exactly. But the other thing a 0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:43.280 lot of people forget about Married with Children is that 0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:47.480 everyone credits Roseanne with kind of starting the blue collar 0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:50.680 family sitcom. Married with Children was a year earlier. 0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:52.959 We were first, right, Yeah, so it's one of these 0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:54.760 got noticed first, exactly. 0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:56.320 But that's the thing is when you go back and 0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:59.280 you look at that actual blue collar sitcom family, the 0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:01.800 bundies were for man, absolutely crazy. 0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:05.840 The working title of Married with Children was not the 0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:13.200 Cosby's which has a different definition now. But I wanted 0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:16.920 this show, obviously to push the envelope beyond anything the 0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:18.840 big three networks would allow. 0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:21.040 What did your parents think of the material? 0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:23.920 Well, that's funny, id you know everywhere I go, when 0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.280 I go to conventions or on the street, people will 0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:29.360 go like, you know, I'm serious, Like seven out of 0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:31.560 ten people were like, I had to sneak away and 0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:33.640 I couldn't watch it, and I got in trouble and 0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:35.880 was like and then you have the other the other 0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:37.840 few people are like, you know, we loved it. We 0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:40.720 watched it together as a family. I came from I 0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:42.440 told you I went to Saint Finbar. You know, I 0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:45.160 came from this kind of My mom wasn't, but my 0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:48.160 dad was this old school Italian Catholic, like you know, 0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:52.640 just you know, a little a little kind of crazy 0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:56.800 in that. And so they were always very supportive of 0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:58.520 of what I did and wanted me to work. And 0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:00.000 you know, they didn't spend my money and they were 0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:02.800 great in that aspect. But you know, watching the show 0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:06.280 around them after it was uncomfortable sometimes, you know, with 0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:08.120 some of the things because you know, you rewatch it 0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:10.840 and it's like Alan Peggy are making these like weird 0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:13.759 sex jokes while the kids are in the room. You know, 0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:16.759 it's just, yeah, it's bizarre. So that he got a 0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.920 little uncomfortable, but you know it was. It was a 0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:20.520 great job. 0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:23.560 And yeah, so yeah, well Kelly too. I mean the 0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:27.280 Kelly character to have a fat, quote unquote fast teenage girl. 0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:30.520 At the time, all this was like groundbreaking television. 0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:32.799 It was just so different, it really was. And like 0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:35.840 I said, rewatching these episodes, it's just like, my god, 0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:38.120 you know it was it was pretty you know, a 0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:40.560 lot of that you couldn't So in some aspects you 0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:42.719 could get away with more today, but in a lot 0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:45.000 you couldn't get away with a lot of the stuff 0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:48.240 we did. Yeah, man, but you were talking about Roseanne. 0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:50.960 It's funny because Ron Levitt, you know, one of the 0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:54.600 funniest people I've ever met to this day, he would say, like, 0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:56.600 you know, when he watched Roseanne at the end, they'd 0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:59.040 sort of like go up and they'd like, you know, 0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:00.680 they want to make love and they'd go, you know, 0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:03.160 have sex, and he'd always go, yeah, right. 0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:13.520 When did you know that the show was a hit, 0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:17.680 because even though the numbers were modest compared to established networks, 0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:21.200 you had a very engaged, young, passionate audience, and its 0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:23.720 position in pop culture was massive. 0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:26.200 Do you remember the moment you were like, oh, this 0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:26.640 is a hit. 0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:30.120 Well, two things come to mind. One was, you know, 0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:33.760 the woman in Detroit or not Detroit, Michigan named Terry Rocolta, 0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:37.680 who is you know, the the wife of some billionaire 0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:41.440 out there, very powerful and you talk about like, you know, 0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:45.640 the sort of humor of the show. She came into 0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:47.799 the room and watched her kids like cracking up at 0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:50.479 this this show, and so she sat down to see 0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:53.240 just what they were cracking up at and she was appalled. 0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.880 And just you know, she was very successful in pulling. 0:35:55.920 --> 0:36:00.400 She got Coca Cola, McDonald's and some other giant answers 0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:04.560 to pull with that. I mean, everybody made the press 0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:06.480 and it was all over and everybody's like, what are 0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:09.160 we not supposed to be watching? Ye, And that's when 0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:12.719 it become became sort of an overnight success. But for me, 0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:15.359 I was always in the you know, I got into 0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:18.960 hip hop music really young, like twelve years old, and 0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:23.640 you know, Marriywoo children was huge in the in the 0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:25.920 hood as we say, and in the hip hop community. 0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:28.480 And I started noticing it then because I would go 0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:30.680 to these hip hop shows and they like pulled me 0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:32.640 up on stage and want to put me in their 0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:36.160 videos and so it was very cool. That's what I really, 0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:38.320 you know, started noticing because like the hip hop community 0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:41.640 like just embraced it like it was you know, like 0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:43.919 it was their family. And ye, that was very cool 0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:44.160 for me. 0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:59.600 So during that time when politicians, wives and noprah are 0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:03.960 called the show filth, what is your reaction as a kid, 0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:06.759 Are you feeling scared like this isn't good for us, 0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:10.400 or do you pretty quickly realize like, oh, our ratings 0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:12.239 are going up, this is only good news for us. 0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:15.960 I think it was pretty much just good news. As 0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:19.520 a matter of fact, the producer sent that woman, Terry Ricolta, 0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:22.960 a thank you basket, like after the ratings skyrocketed. Yeah, 0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:23.759 they literally did. 0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:24.960 Yeah, thank you. 0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:26.760 That's awesome. 0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:30.080 That's pretty great. And Hustler magazine gave her up the month. 0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:31.960 So I mean, you know, what more can you ask for? 0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:36.760 Thought, I actually I thought that was a totally different 0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:37.600 thing on Hustler. 0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:43.720 Well, yeah, I mean that's sort of the joke I think, right. 0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:49.920 Did you like how close an age are you to Christina? 0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:52.920 Did going through this experience bond you two in a 0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:55.640 way that's different maybe than with Ed and Katie just 0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:56.920 because you were closer in age? 0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:59.120 Yeah, I mean so we're only like two and a 0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:03.240 half years apart, and yeah, I mean we were super 0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:05.560 close because again, we were in the same schoolroom for years, 0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:08.799 and we would travel together, and you know it, we're 0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:11.240 kind of like brother and sister in a way where 0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:14.560 you like, you know, at some point, you're like quiet already, 0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:17.799 like yeah, enough stories about whoever, Like you know, you're 0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:21.319 the little little brother, and I'm sure my stories annoyed her, 0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:24.640 and but we were always we've become actually there was 0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:26.600 a time like you know, the show ended and kind 0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:28.640 of all in our separate ways, but we've actually become 0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:33.680 closer in a different way over the last like five 0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:39.440 ten years. Yeah. Yeah, we become you know, very very close, 0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:42.799 like as you know, friends and supporting each other and 0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:44.600 in different ways. 0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:48.000 I know he appeared on married with children, but you 0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:51.480 also became friends with Sam Kinnison, who was on top 0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:54.239 of the world at the time. What was he like 0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:56.040 both to work with and as a human? 0:38:56.520 --> 0:39:03.600 Oh my god, Sam was one of the greatest guys, 0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:06.840 like ever he you know, we spent so it was 0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:09.279 a two parter episode, so we spent two weeks with him. 0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:10.960 But him and I I don't know why, it was 0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:14.320 this weird thing. We became extremely close. Like I would 0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:16.360 like hang out at his house. He would take me 0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:18.239 to all the shows. I would introduce him at at 0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:22.560 at concerts, and he took a liking to me. And 0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:24.960 you know, at that time, I was pretty innocent, right, 0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:28.160 I wasn't like I'm I think I might have like 0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:31.279 smoked weed and maybe drank a little alcohol, but I 0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:34.120 wasn't doing any like drugs or anything. And he you know, 0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:36.680 you'd go to Sam's house and there'd be like, you know, 0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:39.040 there'd be like one hundred dollars bill over a mountain 0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:42.640 of cocaine this corner and that corner and this corner, 0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:45.279 and he'd always you know, have quailudes and all this stuff. 0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:48.040 And I never partook. You know, I went through my 0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:51.120 own thing later on, but I never I think, and 0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:52.719 I could be wrong, but I think there was like 0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:56.440 something about my innocence that he likes to have around. 0:39:57.400 --> 0:39:59.040 That's what I when I look back. But he was 0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:01.080 so cool. I remember I was at his house on 0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:03.680 my dad's birthday once on December tenth, and my dad 0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:06.439 was a huge Sam Kinnison fan, and I said, you's 0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:08.799 cool if we, you know, call my my dad. He's like, oh, yeah, 0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:12.719 you want a few screams, and you know he's like happy, 0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:16.400 and uh that's always. It was cool. He was a great, 0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:19.840 great big heart. You know, obviously he was a horrific addict, 0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:23.719 and you know he missed a few days uh at 0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:26.239 work and the Bruisers were not happy about that at all. 0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:29.880 You know, they weren't. They were pros and they didn't 0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:32.000 want that happening. And you know, he would miss a 0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:34.439 day and not realize that he didn't show up, and 0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:39.080 but then he would like he would try to he 0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:42.000 would try to make that right by like catering lunch 0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:45.680 from Chasin's and having Belly dancers come and you know, 0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:47.600 but I loved the guy, but you know, I know that, 0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:50.920 but the the final outcome, you know, he played the 0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:54.640 it was like a it was like it's a play 0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:56.719 on It's a Wonderful Life. It was called It's a 0:40:56.719 --> 0:40:59.439 Bundiful Life and you know how the angel comes comes 0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:02.719 back and show how everybody's life would be without you know, 0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:07.160 James Stewart character, and in this everybody's life was magical. 0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:11.360 You know, Elly was like him. Oh it was great. 0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:14.279 It was great. And uh, I remember there's you know, 0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:18.120 it was the first show Ted McGinley, who wasn't in 0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:20.759 the show yet, he just was a guest actor in 0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:24.320 this episode. And uh and in this episode he played 0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:27.200 the dad that i'll you know, the real dab of us. 0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:30.359 And I remember there's a scene in his last name 0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:33.719 was Jablonski, and so he's like, after we're like I 0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:36.160 love you, I love you, I love you more, he's like, 0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:39.200 let's get a wo Jablonski and we just this wo 0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:41.560 Jablonski and they turned to Edd and he's like, oh, 0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:45.279 Jablonski and it was just this funny, funny bit. But 0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:47.919 that's where we discovered Ted. And then he came back, 0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:51.400 you know, not too long after to play Marcy's new 0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:52.680 husband and who I love. 0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:54.239 I did a show with Ted and he's like the 0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:55.239 nicest guy in the. 0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:58.520 Planet, the greatest guy. He's so great. Yeah, and you know, 0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:00.680 he was a little pissed at me from minute because 0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:03.520 we did that first reunion, which I produced with my 0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:07.120 partner Ben, and he you know, it was it was 0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:09.520 it was the Bundyes, right, and you know Ed and 0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:12.120 Amanda had this thing going, and I knew he wasn't 0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:13.840 gonna do it with her, and I was like, not 0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:15.920 going to happen, and so I just kind of we 0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:17.759 made it the Bundies and I know, and so I 0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:19.720 heard that he was a little like, you know, myffed 0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:22.080 about that, and I wasn't sure if that was true. 0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:23.680 And I heard it from her and anyway, I way 0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:25.480 ended up talking and he's like, yeah, I was a 0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:28.880 little pissed about that, and so I said, you know, 0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.799 when we do this again, you know, it'll it'll you know, 0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:34.080 you'll be on the stage, regardless of if it looks 0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:36.040 weird or not that a man's not there. You got 0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:37.799 to be a part of it. So before you go 0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:39.279 on and for that, I will tell you that we 0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:45.719 had to postpone the last uh uh reunion due to 0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:49.319 Christina something that Christina is going through and but she's 0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:52.239 getting much better and it's just a postponement and it 0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:55.400 will be coming. I think like late fall is what 0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:57.560 we're looking at. But yeah, we had to postpone the 0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:01.160 Netflix one unfortunately her health. Yeah, okay. 0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:05.200 She By the way, you talked about Alisa Milano, who 0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:07.319 clearly for people of our age, you and I are 0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:10.400 very similar in age, so it was who's the boss? 0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:13.520 And and then you had Commando with Arnold Wrozenegger. 0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:15.160 I was just like, she was. 0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:18.279 The best, but then Christina kind of took over for 0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:21.040 a lot of us, where she became that kind of 0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:25.359 the next girl that everybody had a crush on. And 0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:28.600 I'm curious was because again we always say that we 0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:31.400 were blessed is the wrong word, but it was. It 0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:33.719 was a lot more beneficial for us as people and 0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:35.200 as actors that we got to go through all this 0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:39.360 without social media. So were you able to kind of 0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:43.960 see though, how Christina was becoming kind of like that 0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:46.760 a teen icon to boys across the country. 0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:51.920 Yes, but it was so weird, like I say, because 0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:54.400 it just so wasn't like that for me. You know, 0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:56.440 when we see people close up every day, we get 0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:58.600 to see their you know, quote unquote warts and pimples 0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:01.040 as they say, and it's like Christina had a lot 0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:06.680 of words. I'm kidding, No, No, I just never. It 0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:08.640 was just never. So it was kind of like I 0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:10.640 would just hear it from them, but I didn't really 0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:15.319 understand the gravity of what people were, you know. But 0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:17.319 I remember a few times being in New York and 0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:20.359 walking through the streets and some people saying some very 0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:23.640 colorful things about her, and which I won't to repeat, 0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:28.200 but a couple of them are hilarious. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, 0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:31.040 she definitely became the girl right And looking back when 0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:33.080 I look at these episodes, like, god, she's gorgeous. 0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:36.000 Yeah, it's stunning, but also like kind of a bat, 0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:38.480 which was the thing that was she was just that 0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:41.640 none of none of you were the mold of the 0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:44.520 sitcom family, none of you. And that's the thing that 0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:47.640 was so great about the Bundies, as you know, even Neighbors, 0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:49.920 there was not a single It's like they took every 0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:52.680 single sitcom paradigm and when we're going to do the 0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:54.879 opposite of this, yeah, and it's either going to work 0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:56.680 or it's not going to work, and it just it 0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:58.839 worked like Gangbusters. But it was one of those things 0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:01.320 where you couldn't have turned it on its head anymore. 0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:04.239 I mean, even in the later seasons where every the 0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:07.319 Brady bunch brought on Oliver, everybody tries to bring on 0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:09.520 a new little kid to make it young again, and 0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:13.880 and you guys brought on seven. It was just and 0:45:13.920 --> 0:45:15.680 they named him that because he was the seventh kid 0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:17.880 in the family and nobody wanted him, so they just 0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:18.680 gave him to the butt. 0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:20.360 It was just he was just seven. 0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:23.479 And so even that, like using the typical sitcom things 0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:25.319 and just going we're gonna do this so differently than 0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:27.359 anybody else has ever done it. It could have fit. 0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:31.239 Yes, how they ended the seven run. No, what what 0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:33.040 did they do with seven? I don't remember. Well, just 0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:36.080 the kid is so sweet, but you know, he just 0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:38.239 wasn't an actor. I mean, I don't. He just that 0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:41.399 wasn't his thing, and he didn't. It never took and 0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:44.759 the audience hated it, so they just stopped doing it. 0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:46.960 And then at one point we're like at the we're 0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:49.719 at the kitchen table and there's a milk cart and 0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:55.680 it zooms in. Have you seen me? It's great? Yeah, 0:45:57.680 --> 0:45:58.400 it was brilliant. 0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:03.040 Yeah, awesome, Like your own interests as a kid started 0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:06.360 to bleed over to Bud. So writer was into poetry 0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:09.520 and counting crows, and so then was his character Sean, 0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:13.080 you were a huge hip hop fan, and then so 0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:17.839 was Bud and in turn Grandmaster b. Yes, how did 0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:21.160 that come together? And were you at all weirded out 0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:22.799 by it the way writer was? 0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:23.680 Or did you love it? 0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:23.839 Oh? 0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:25.160 You were weirded out by it? Oh? 0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:27.640 Yeah, well yeah, because it was it was, Yeah, it was. 0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:29.960 It's a long complicated story, but yeah, no, it was 0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:33.759 definitely like parts of my life being taken without consulting, 0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:35.520 without me being consulted. 0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:37.719 Yeah, I get it, I get it. I feel that 0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:41.799 for me again, it was a nod to sort of 0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:46.879 what I loved, you know. Uh, the Grandmaster Beat character came. 0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:49.920 You know, this was early when hip hop was not mainstream. 0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:52.440 It just wasn't. It wasn't a mainstream people. A lot 0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:55.759 of people hate it and I embraced it early on. 0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:57.719 And so I'd have these guys come into the set, 0:46:57.760 --> 0:47:01.560 you know, I'd have like Ice Cube and Iced Tea 0:47:01.719 --> 0:47:03.440 and Easy E all these guys. 0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:06.120 You had nw A coming and visiting you on the set. 0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:09.880 Yes, I did. I did. Easy was the greatest. You know, 0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:11.680 he was a big marry with children fan and all 0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:13.879 these guys were And Drey never came to the set, 0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:15.400 but he did come to my club that I used 0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:18.759 to run. They did they impromptu. It's there was the 0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:22.759 greatest night of the club. And it just became impromptu. 0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:25.440 It wasn't planned anything, but Drey was there, Easy was 0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:28.080 there and Wren. It wasn't when Cube had already left 0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:30.200 at this point, but the three of them were there 0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:33.160 and they did this impromptu performance and it was just 0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:36.279 like God, it was the greatest thing ever. But they 0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:38.040 would see these guys coming, they be like, yo, what's 0:47:38.040 --> 0:47:40.960 Fustina what's happening here, you know what? And so they 0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:43.920 that's how the Grand Master b character started. I don't 0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:46.400 think they really consulted me. It just kind of happened. 0:47:47.000 --> 0:47:49.480 But I remember when they wanted to do my bedroom 0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:51.319 for the first time. They were like, you know what, 0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:54.120 how do you And I was like, and NAS's Illmatic 0:47:54.360 --> 0:47:57.840 uh album? It hadn't dropped. It was just dropping. And 0:47:57.880 --> 0:48:00.680 I knew about it, you know, a year or two 0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:03.719 in advance, just by being in that scene and the 0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:06.360 Source magazine and those guys, and so I was like, 0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:08.759 I want the Illmatic poster and they're like the who what? 0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:11.200 I was like, you just throw it up there. And 0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:14.120 then you know, when people saw that, they were just like, oh, 0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:17.440 you know. And even Nas, when I run into him, 0:48:17.480 --> 0:48:19.759 it's like crazy love and he has this quote in 0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:22.480 the La Times. He was like, you know, when we 0:48:22.520 --> 0:48:25.520 saw our poster up on Bud Bundy's wall, we knew 0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:26.480 we were about to flow. 0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:30.480 That's really cool man. 0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:33.600 So I still use the Moniker as my DJ name. 0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:34.600 Yep Graham. 0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:37.080 I do because people were like, you know, what is 0:48:37.120 --> 0:48:39.799 your DJ am gonna be? And and for so long 0:48:39.840 --> 0:48:41.399 I was like, no, that would be corny and people 0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:42.759 are like, you got to use it. It's just like, 0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:44.279 you know, you have it, just go with it. 0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:48.759 I was like, all, yes, we had Brian Austin Green 0:48:48.920 --> 0:48:51.400 on the podcast a little while back and we got 0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:55.719 into Ballistics, which is the underage club you ran on 0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:57.919 Sunset Boulevard here in Los Angeles. It was a real 0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:02.239 hangout for young Hollywood at the time. You mentioned that 0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:06.840 story about the impromptu hang and performance. Uh, would you 0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:09.120 say that's your favorite Ballistics story. 0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:10.799 I'm sure you have many, but. 0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:12.799 One of them one of them. First of all, I 0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:16.160 love Brian, you know, Brian one of the sweetest guys, 0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:19.239 and you know, we still remain not close, but we're 0:49:19.239 --> 0:49:22.520 always a text away, you know. And I love Brian. 0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:26.680 But I think the Knights, you know, that one stands 0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:28.799 out obviously about n w A. But well, what I 0:49:28.840 --> 0:49:31.160 loved about the club was, you know Will I Am, 0:49:31.760 --> 0:49:34.319 who was Will one X at the time. He uh, 0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:36.680 you know, people don't realize because he sort of went 0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:39.600 a pop version. But in my in my opinion, his 0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:42.359 pop is like great, you know, it's like, yep, he did. 0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:45.799 He's a he's a he's a magical guy. And but 0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:47.560 he was a battle rapper, and like a lot of 0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:50.600 people don't know that about Will. He was vicious and 0:49:51.080 --> 0:49:55.360 ruthless and he would he kept this uh the freestyle 0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:58.280 battle like he was the champion for like six months 0:49:58.280 --> 0:50:00.279 in a row. No one could beat him because he 0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:02.319 would just take people apart, kind of like eight mile 0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:06.080 from head to toe. And I remember the only time 0:50:06.120 --> 0:50:09.640 he lost. They brought in this kid, this young, like 0:50:09.880 --> 0:50:12.239 eight ten year old kid that was you know that 0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:14.719 they were kind of trying to build up. And I 0:50:14.760 --> 0:50:19.480 remember they wrote his wraps beforehand and like figured out 0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:25.520 a way to his own manager, what polo was behind 0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:29.239 this kid, and so they wrote these rhymes and they 0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:31.080 had this kid come and because he was so young, 0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:34.200 because the rhymes were so you know great, he actually 0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:37.120 won that night. Well Will came back the next week 0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:40.719 and didn't care this this kid was ten years old. 0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:44.279 He just destroyed this poor little kid and probably sent 0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:47.719 him home crying. And then he took the championship back. 0:50:47.760 --> 0:50:50.520 But he was just so he was so great. I 0:50:50.600 --> 0:50:52.440 knew he was going to be a star from like 0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:55.279 one of the few first few times I met him. 0:50:55.320 --> 0:50:57.719 I was like, this kid is going to be a star, 0:50:57.880 --> 0:50:59.399 Like no doubt in my mind. And they all met 0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:01.479 there by the way. None of them knew each other. 0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:04.480 They literally all met at ballistics. 0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:07.480 Wow, are you still listening to hip hop? Do you 0:51:07.520 --> 0:51:08.920 have any modern day favorites? 0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:12.480 Oh, it's funny, I was, I do. I have a 0:51:12.480 --> 0:51:14.160 lot of them, you know, I mean I love hip hop. 0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:15.800 I mean I have a lot of stuff I hate, 0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:18.960 you know, I I I sort of hate the direction 0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:25.160 hip hop went in in you know, the you know, 0:51:25.200 --> 0:51:28.200 I said he glorified drugs. It just it just become 0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:30.440 very I don't know. That's and it's one of the 0:51:30.480 --> 0:51:33.600 reasons people hate hip hop because they'll turn on you know, 0:51:33.680 --> 0:51:38.000 these like popular hip hop stations, and between every great 0:51:38.080 --> 0:51:41.440 song is like four horrible ones that are kind of unlistenable. 0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:44.920 And so I hate that. But there's still some really 0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:48.239 great stuff that's, you know, still out there, Like I 0:51:48.320 --> 0:51:49.760 like this Griselda movement. 0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:51.040 I love Griselda. 0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:54.200 I love Griselda. Benny the Butcher. I was just on 0:51:54.239 --> 0:51:57.880 a zoom call with a guy named Afro who don't 0:51:57.920 --> 0:52:01.440 get him confused with Afroman. He's not. He's a different guy. 0:52:01.040 --> 0:52:05.040 He's this dope underground like artist. He's only twenty eight 0:52:06.000 --> 0:52:09.160 he's battled, you know. He's a freestyle battler and so 0:52:09.320 --> 0:52:11.319 great and such a humble, cool guy. As a matter 0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:13.040 of fact, we just were on a Zoom meeting at 0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:15.560 twelve o'clock today and we're gonna we're gonna try and 0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:18.719 put together a little EP just for fun. So I 0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:22.279 love him, and and there's a lot of you know 0:52:22.600 --> 0:52:25.319 people I'm listening to that I like because I have 0:52:25.360 --> 0:52:27.759 to stay up on some of the new stuff just 0:52:27.840 --> 0:52:30.040 because of what I do for my hobby and my 0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:33.239 sort of second hustle, so I have to weed through 0:52:33.280 --> 0:52:34.200 a lot of crap. Though. 0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:36.719 Yeah, do you know Toby Wigway at all? 0:52:37.000 --> 0:52:37.480 I don't. 0:52:37.680 --> 0:52:40.000 Oh my gosh, you have to check him out. I'll 0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:42.840 send you a link. His wife also is a rapper. 0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:47.879 They're phenomenal separately and together and very very very good. 0:52:47.920 --> 0:52:48.799 You'll have to check them out. 0:52:48.840 --> 0:52:50.240 Where are they're from? 0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:50.800 Atlanta? 0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:53.799 Okay? Yeah, love to hear it. Please do. 0:52:54.400 --> 0:53:08.280 I will send it to you. Okay. 0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:11.439 I want to talk about these reunions a little bit. 0:53:12.320 --> 0:53:14.279 Where did the idea for the first one at the 0:53:14.320 --> 0:53:15.200 Wiltern come from? 0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:18.960 So it all quickly, It all birthed from a friend 0:53:19.000 --> 0:53:21.520 of mine, Ben Brocata, who's one of these sort of 0:53:22.520 --> 0:53:25.080 you know, he's an agent that does conventions and things 0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:27.120 like that. And we just started out as a as 0:53:27.160 --> 0:53:31.560 a you know, client agent relationship, but then we became 0:53:31.640 --> 0:53:33.799 friends and he always said, you know, we should get 0:53:33.880 --> 0:53:37.160 we should do this, we should do like a convention 0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:39.960 where we all do a signing together. And I was like, 0:53:40.040 --> 0:53:43.000 that's never going to happen, dude, Like Ed is never 0:53:43.080 --> 0:53:45.360 going to do that. Like I'd have people call me, 0:53:46.400 --> 0:53:48.920 these agents that would find me, and they'd be like, hey, listen, 0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:50.879 you know I want Ed to come out for one 0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:53.840 day in Florida for four hours. We'll pay him one 0:53:53.880 --> 0:53:56.880 hundred grand. So I'd be like, okay, sure, I'll call him. 0:53:57.120 --> 0:53:59.080 And i'd call him and I knew the answer, and 0:53:59.080 --> 0:54:01.520 he'd be like, yeah, nah, I don't want to do that, 0:54:01.680 --> 0:54:04.320 you know, like one hundred k. So he's never gonna 0:54:04.320 --> 0:54:07.720 do it. But what I did know about Ed, because 0:54:07.719 --> 0:54:09.719 I know Ed so well, is that he loves to 0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:13.200 tell stories. He's one of the greatest storytellers you can 0:54:13.280 --> 0:54:15.520 ever say. Well. He would keep us entertained for hours 0:54:15.560 --> 0:54:18.920 and hours and hours telling stories about Youngstown, Ohio and 0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:22.360 the gangsters. That he grew up around New York and 0:54:22.600 --> 0:54:24.160 like he would just you know, he was he's a 0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:27.920 great storyteller. So we kind of morphed into one of 0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:30.000 these ideas, well, what if we did, you know, like 0:54:30.640 --> 0:54:34.120 a thing where where he can be on stage and 0:54:34.160 --> 0:54:36.160 like he'd say, you know, I gotta have a barrier, 0:54:36.200 --> 0:54:38.680 and he doesn't mean He's like, yeah, he doesn't want 0:54:38.680 --> 0:54:41.040 to be too he doesn't want people like putting their 0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:42.960 arm around him. He's just not that kind of guy. 0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:47.440 So for a fraction of what he would make, you know, 0:54:47.560 --> 0:54:51.160 one of these conventions and signings, we approached them with 0:54:51.200 --> 0:54:53.840 this idea to go up on stage and tell stories, 0:54:53.920 --> 0:54:56.799 is how I sort of worded it. And I thought 0:54:56.840 --> 0:54:58.759 he'd be the hardest one to get on board. He's like, oh, 0:54:58.760 --> 0:55:01.520 well that sounds kind of fun. You know, let's let's 0:55:01.520 --> 0:55:04.239 see if Katie and and Christina. So it became once 0:55:04.280 --> 0:55:09.160 he was on board, which was like simple, then you know, 0:55:09.560 --> 0:55:11.880 it was easier to get Katie and Christina to do it. 0:55:12.680 --> 0:55:15.440 They were a little more difficult to get on board 0:55:15.480 --> 0:55:18.080 than Ed was. He was immediately like, let's do this. 0:55:18.160 --> 0:55:20.319 It sounds like fun, it sounds like and it was 0:55:20.400 --> 0:55:22.080 exactly what I knew it would be. He went on 0:55:22.080 --> 0:55:24.239 stage and you told a bunch of great stories that 0:55:24.480 --> 0:55:28.960 captivated the audience and and it was great, you know, and. 0:55:28.960 --> 0:55:31.640 That you raised money during that one for Race to 0:55:31.680 --> 0:55:32.440 Erase Ms. 0:55:32.520 --> 0:55:34.600 Right, yeah, I've I've been going to the Race to 0:55:34.640 --> 0:55:36.879 Erace Ms for thirty three years in. 0:55:36.800 --> 0:55:38.760 A row, oh my gosh. 0:55:38.920 --> 0:55:42.160 And you know, and it was before obviously Christina was 0:55:42.200 --> 0:55:44.279 diagnosed in and I've been a huge part of that 0:55:44.960 --> 0:55:46.680 when it was a race. Did you guys ever go 0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:46.960 to that? 0:55:47.560 --> 0:55:49.880 No, I don't you know what I may have. I 0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:50.880 may have in the past. 0:55:50.960 --> 0:55:53.480 I it's been a long time, but I do think 0:55:53.480 --> 0:55:55.720 there was a time as a teenager I went. 0:55:55.840 --> 0:55:57.640 Oh yeah, it was the greatest event in the world. 0:55:57.640 --> 0:56:00.440 It started out as this ski race, that's what it 0:56:00.480 --> 0:56:04.560 was like fail and like all the greatest places, and 0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:07.000 then of course it was a logistical nightmare and so 0:56:07.040 --> 0:56:10.759 they yeah, finally became uh like a gala at the 0:56:11.360 --> 0:56:14.480 at the Century Plaza Hotel. But I so missed those days. 0:56:14.560 --> 0:56:17.279 But you know, I'm still big part of that. Nancy 0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:21.480 Davis is a close friend, you know, and it's it's 0:56:21.520 --> 0:56:24.680 always been dear to me, so that obviously when when Christina, 0:56:25.080 --> 0:56:26.600 when this went down, we were like, you know, what's 0:56:26.640 --> 0:56:30.120 the what's the perfect uh cause to raise a little 0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:31.600 bit of money for us? Not we raised the time, 0:56:32.239 --> 0:56:33.799 we raised some money for them, but. 0:56:33.920 --> 0:56:39.440 Yeah, and it obviously sold out, so uh, you couldn't 0:56:39.440 --> 0:56:42.719 have been too shocked by by that reaction considering all 0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:44.000 of you were involved. 0:56:44.080 --> 0:56:45.400 But what did that shocked? 0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:48.279 But I was like, I think they were because you know, 0:56:48.560 --> 0:56:51.000 Katie and I are the only two who do the conventions. 0:56:51.160 --> 0:56:53.560 Like Katie finally did one. She loved it and she realized, 0:56:53.600 --> 0:56:55.239 you know, she can make money, and so I think 0:56:55.280 --> 0:56:58.040 she knew. But I think Ed and Christina were you know, 0:56:58.040 --> 0:56:59.520 we we pulled, you know, they picked us up and 0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:02.160 we all went to the uh separately, but they picked 0:57:02.200 --> 0:57:03.600 us up in cars and we all pull up and 0:57:03.600 --> 0:57:06.120 the Wiltern was just it was like it was like 0:57:06.200 --> 0:57:08.680 you were going to like a I don't know, like 0:57:08.719 --> 0:57:11.360 a Beatles concert or something crazy like back then. It 0:57:11.480 --> 0:57:14.760 was like a buzz with lines of people with wearing 0:57:14.800 --> 0:57:17.520 the nomam shirts and dressed like Alan Peggy and it 0:57:17.600 --> 0:57:21.000 was just it was the the energy was insane and 0:57:21.600 --> 0:57:24.520 I don't think I mean, I was even blown away 0:57:24.560 --> 0:57:26.080 a little bit. But I don't think they were knew 0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:27.680 what was coming. You know. It was it was quite 0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:30.240 you know, and it sold out like in two days, right, 0:57:30.520 --> 0:57:33.680 which was which was also kind of wild, but it 0:57:33.720 --> 0:57:35.200 was a blast. I think they were all which is 0:57:35.240 --> 0:57:37.880 why they all were like, yeah, let's do another that. 0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:39.960 We were set up to do that, and then unfortunately 0:57:40.000 --> 0:57:42.200 we had we put that on hold for a little while. 0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:45.360 But you know, even any when he came on my show, 0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:46.880 I was like, you know, how's he going, you know? 0:57:46.920 --> 0:57:49.120 And he was so great. I said, you only have 0:57:49.160 --> 0:57:50.560 to stay for an hour. He stayed for the full 0:57:50.600 --> 0:57:53.720 two hours, and of course told stories to all the fans. 0:57:53.760 --> 0:57:56.920 And this one woman from Germany who actually posted on 0:57:56.960 --> 0:58:00.760 the site shameless plug it's Bundy clubbed but we have 0:58:01.200 --> 0:58:04.400 you know, these members posting area and she she did 0:58:04.440 --> 0:58:06.840 this three part post that goes on and on and 0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:09.680 on about how she, you know, on her own without 0:58:09.720 --> 0:58:11.400 her husband because her husband's like, what are you? Are 0:58:11.400 --> 0:58:13.640 you crazy? She came out here, had never been to 0:58:13.680 --> 0:58:16.240 Los Angeles and made the journey and was super nervous 0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:18.480 about it. And she tells the story. But she got 0:58:18.520 --> 0:58:22.040 to talk to Ed on this zoom call and she 0:58:22.240 --> 0:58:25.960 wrote this like speech that she wanted to tell him. 0:58:26.200 --> 0:58:28.440 She started tearing up through it, and Ed was super to. 0:58:28.520 --> 0:58:29.960 All of us were like, oh my god, this is 0:58:30.320 --> 0:58:33.240 extremely touching, you know, and it was great to have 0:58:33.320 --> 0:58:35.160 him on. You know, it was really cool that he 0:58:35.200 --> 0:58:36.920 did it. And he's very loyal and he's just a 0:58:37.000 --> 0:58:37.880 you know, he's a good dude. 0:58:38.400 --> 0:58:39.200 That's so great. 0:58:39.760 --> 0:58:44.600 Yeah, well, congratulations on the Bundy Club. Where can people listen? 0:58:44.640 --> 0:58:46.760 I know you mentioned the website Bundy club dot com. 0:58:46.760 --> 0:58:48.800 Where can people find your podcast? 0:58:48.960 --> 0:58:50.360 And it's a zoom oh. 0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:52.600 Yes, So you just go to Bundy club dot com. 0:58:52.640 --> 0:58:54.920 You sign up. There's like different levels of membership. You 0:58:54.960 --> 0:58:56.520 can go for free if you want, or you know, 0:58:56.920 --> 0:58:59.320 it goes up. But and then you know, you get 0:58:59.320 --> 0:59:01.720 to come on. I have Poulli's Shore coming on because 0:59:01.720 --> 0:59:03.080 he did it. He's a fan fave of One of 0:59:03.120 --> 0:59:06.280 his episodes is just so fun. He played you Al 0:59:06.320 --> 0:59:09.040 has to go work in like a fast food joint 0:59:09.240 --> 0:59:13.240 and Polly plays his boss and it's hilarious. People love this. 0:59:13.320 --> 0:59:15.760 So he's coming on, but I think that will anyway. 0:59:15.960 --> 0:59:18.240 Bundy club dot Com just sign up and then you 0:59:18.280 --> 0:59:20.080 can come to the zoom thing and you get to 0:59:20.600 --> 0:59:23.000 like you After we do the interview, people get to 0:59:23.000 --> 0:59:25.400 come on. We kind of I think there's like a 0:59:25.480 --> 0:59:27.400 thing where if you do a lot of posting and 0:59:27.440 --> 0:59:29.560 you were like first in line to ask questions and 0:59:29.600 --> 0:59:32.320 come in the zoom. It's like a system. But it's fun, 0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:34.120 a lot of fun. People love it and I love it. 0:59:34.160 --> 0:59:35.360 I have a lot of fun doing it. 0:59:35.520 --> 0:59:36.120 That's a great idea. 0:59:36.120 --> 0:59:37.720 It sounds it's almost like a virtual convention. 0:59:37.800 --> 0:59:40.120 It's really cool. It's a trick. It's a trip, it 0:59:40.160 --> 0:59:41.280 really is. Yeah. 0:59:41.320 --> 0:59:43.240 Well, that's great and we look forward to hearing more 0:59:43.320 --> 0:59:46.840 about the upcoming Netflix reunion special hopefully later this year. 0:59:47.200 --> 0:59:48.880 We will keep an eye out for that. Well, thank 0:59:48.880 --> 0:59:50.960 you so much for joining us today. It's so wonderful 0:59:51.000 --> 0:59:51.640 to talk to you. 0:59:51.880 --> 0:59:53.440 That was a lot of fun. Yeah, thank you guys. 0:59:53.440 --> 0:59:55.480 It's good to see you. Glad you guys are all together. 0:59:56.520 --> 0:59:59.000 It's kind of rare, right that we all, like a 0:59:59.000 --> 1:00:00.760 lot of us stick together. That's kind of cool. 1:00:01.200 --> 1:00:02.280 I know, it's great. 1:00:02.360 --> 1:00:04.760 Congratulations on the new house too. I love the dogs 1:00:04.760 --> 1:00:07.800 in their little coyote vests. They're they're spiky vests. 1:00:07.880 --> 1:00:11.640 Oh you can see. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. I'm 1:00:11.640 --> 1:00:13.480 gonna go do some laundry in my new laundry. 1:00:13.600 --> 1:00:14.120 Yeah. 1:00:14.360 --> 1:00:14.600 Fun. 1:00:14.640 --> 1:00:16.160 As long as they're drainage, you're fine. 1:00:16.240 --> 1:00:19.240 Yeah, thank you. 1:00:21.120 --> 1:00:24.120 That's so cool that they're all that close and of 1:00:24.720 --> 1:00:26.120 just like a group chat. 1:00:27.160 --> 1:00:27.920 It's really great. 1:00:28.080 --> 1:00:31.440 They also, I mean they between them and the Simpsons, 1:00:31.480 --> 1:00:34.920 they made a network, literally built a network. It was 1:00:35.000 --> 1:00:38.120 we come on ABC or people going on CBS. I mean, 1:00:38.120 --> 1:00:40.680 it's something that's got the heritage of sometimes one hundred years, 1:00:40.720 --> 1:00:42.960 eighty years. They built the network. 1:00:43.320 --> 1:00:46.080 They were the first ever sitcom on Fox and only 1:00:46.160 --> 1:00:49.720 the second show ever was that crazy? 1:00:49.880 --> 1:00:51.080 Was Simpsons the first one. 1:00:51.160 --> 1:00:53.240 I think it has to be God, that's nuts. 1:00:53.320 --> 1:00:55.600 The second show ever on an entire network, which is 1:00:55.680 --> 1:00:58.560 which then now, if anybody thinks of networks, there's four, yeah, 1:00:58.600 --> 1:01:01.760 and there was three everyone now knows for yep, And 1:01:01.800 --> 1:01:05.560 they were the second show ever. That's nuts, Yeah, God crazy. 1:01:05.880 --> 1:01:07.560 Thank you all for joining us for this episode of 1:01:07.600 --> 1:01:09.680 Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us on 1:01:09.680 --> 1:01:11.960 Instagram pod Meets World Show. 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