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We had a weird slate 34 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: last night. At the other four games that were played, 35 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: five of those eight teams were below five hundred, So 36 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: we're just focusing in on Nuggets Timberwolves as a game reaction. 37 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: After that, Lebron James and JJ Reddick had their first 38 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: episode of their Mind of the Game podcast, and there 39 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: were several basketball concepts that were hit in that show 40 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: that I wanted to dive a little bit deeper into, 41 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: so we'll do that in our middle segment. And then 42 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: at the end, I've got four mail bag questions for us, 43 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: some follow ups from yesterday's stuff about the goat debate, 44 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: as well as some stuff about the Warriors and bam 45 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: Adepayo who's made five of his last five threes in 46 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: the last four games. You guys know the joe for 47 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: we get started. Subscribe to a brand new YouTube channel 48 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: so you don't miss any more of our videos. Follow 49 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,119 Speaker 1: me on Twitter at underscore jsn LTS. 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So all 109 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you have an incredibly small Minnesota Timberwolves 110 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: team that typically obviously brings a very massive front line 111 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: to the table, and so they started without a center 112 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: in this game. They brought Ni Alexander Walker into the 113 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: starting lineup and slid Kyle Anderson down to center, brought 114 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: Luca Garza off the bench, who obviously has his own 115 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: limitations physically against some of the bigger centers in the league, 116 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: and he can shoot the ball, which kind of brings 117 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: a similar dynamic to guys like Carl Towns and Naz Reid, 118 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: but just not enough size on the front line. And 119 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: Timberwolves they fought admirably they went down big early then 120 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: went not a big run, but really it felt like 121 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: whenever Denver was, you know, able to kind of engage 122 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: themselves for a couple of minutes, they were able to 123 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: pull away. I thought the key stretch of the game 124 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: was in the middle of the fourth quarter. I've talked 125 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: a lot about like the that the Denver rotation, and 126 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: one of the ways that it kind of swings is 127 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: to start the second and fourth quarters, they'll go with 128 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: like Jamal Murray and a bench group and they'll switch 129 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: everything and they'll flow a lot through Jamal on the 130 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: ball and kind of just let him pick his spots 131 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: and really lean on one on one basketball, just kind 132 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: of matchup hunting. But then they go into like a 133 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: phase in the middle of the second quarter, middle of 134 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter where they take Jamal off and they 135 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: bring the center the starters on basically, and it's it's 136 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: usually the starters, but with Reggie Jackson in for Jamal Murray. 137 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: Was a little funky in this middle of the fourth 138 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: quarter stretch because I'm not sure exactly why, but they 139 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: left Aaron Gordon out longer, so Justin Holliday was in 140 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: in the group. It was a little bit of a 141 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: smaller lineup. I think that might have been an attempt 142 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: to try to generate some more spacing, because obviously when 143 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: the Wolves went smaller, they's smaller with a ton of 144 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: really good perimeter defenders, and so obviously to beat really 145 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: good perimeter defenders off the dribble and to try to 146 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: get into the lane and get good shots sometimes it 147 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: helps to have a little bit more spacing. I'm guessing 148 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: that's what they were going with, but who knows. But 149 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: Eric Gordon was out, so it was basically the starters 150 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: with Justin Holliday and Reggie Jackson in for Gordon and Murray, 151 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: and they went really heavy into the Michael Porter Junior 152 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: and Nicole Yokics two man game, and the Wolves had 153 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: got up four. They were up four in that kind 154 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: of middle portion of the fourth quarter off of a 155 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: Luke Garza Friezo Luca Garza free throw, and they go 156 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: down and they run MPJ Yokics two man game. A 157 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: couple possessions in a row is a textbook example of 158 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: the setup in the fake. So they start with the 159 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: dribble handoff, Jokic pitches it to MPJ. MPJ comes off 160 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: going to his left hand side hard step back dribble 161 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: knocks down at three on the left wing, and then 162 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: on the very next possession they go to run the 163 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: exact same thing. MPJ positions himself, the defenders getting physical 164 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: with him and trying to bump him off of that line, 165 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: and MPJ just stunts like he's gonna come off the 166 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: dribble handoff and cuts back door. Yokic hits him on 167 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: the slip. He dunks on a bunch of people underneath 168 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: the basket. So now we've run the same drible handoff sequence, 169 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: just with the fake on the back end. We get 170 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: five easy points. They go down, they get a stop, 171 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,119 Speaker 1: and MPG in transition hits a step back jump shot 172 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: over Jade McDaniels, beating him with kind of like a 173 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: pump fake and then a little off the dribble move 174 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: going towards his left, and you know, it is a 175 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: great example of what we talked about a lot, which is, 176 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: you know, MIKEL. Porter Junior, in my opinion, has a 177 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: lot more dribble pop, a lot more you know, kind 178 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: of like ability to scale up offensively than he even 179 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: shows for large portions of the season. And you know, 180 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: when he has an opportunity to kind of get more 181 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: of the offense run directly through him. He can show 182 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: you that he can be a guy that can kind 183 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: of anchor an offense for a stretch, and that bigs. 184 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: I thought that swung the game. You know, like Minnesota 185 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: a ton of momentum. Anthony Everards was playing out of 186 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: his mind making all these crazy shots without a half 187 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: dozen highlights from Anthony Edwards in this game, and it 188 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 1: just kind of felt like the momentum was heading Minnesota's way. 189 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: And when I tell you that sequence, those three possessions 190 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: completely flipped the game. And then Jokic hit three threes 191 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter and just like that, the game 192 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: was basically over. I wanted to talk about Jokic working 193 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: on his jumper for a little bit because I thought 194 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: this was a clear kind of tone that he was 195 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: setting early. So he was being guarded by Kyle Anderson 196 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: and he had plenty of opportunities to just kind of 197 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: physically bully his way to the basket. And the dead 198 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: giveaway was early in the game. Jokicic was just bombing 199 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: fadeaways out of the post and he made I think 200 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: he made one or two of them. But he was 201 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: missing a lot of them, but he was just bombing fadeaways. 202 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: And then you go into the end of the game 203 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: and he's bombing these long threes and some of them 204 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: are contested and earlier in the shot clock, and I'm like, 205 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: this is interesting, and I really think Jokic is just 206 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: trying to polish up his jump shot to get ready 207 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: for the postseason. This is something I've talked about a 208 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: good amount this year. But like the one thing I 209 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: still even in spite of this, I think Jokic is 210 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: the best player in the world by a comfortable margin. 211 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: But if you had to nitpick Jokic for something this year, 212 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: he just hasn't been as accurate as a jump shooter 213 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: as he was last year. To give you an idea, 214 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: last year, in the regular season, a Jokis jump shot 215 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: was worth one point one seven points per shot, and 216 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: in the postseason it went up from one point one 217 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: seven to one point two to one points per jump shot. 218 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: So from basically training camp through to when they hoisted 219 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: the trophy, Jokic was making his jumper at just a 220 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: preposterous rate. You know, before the last couple of games 221 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: this season, he had been down to zero point ninety 222 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: nine points per jump shot, and in the last couple 223 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: of games he shot well enough to tick it up, 224 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: but still at this point for the entire season, he's 225 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: at one point zero one points per jump shot. So basically, 226 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: like to put it simply, he is about what fifteen 227 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: somewhere between fifteen and twenty percent worse as a jump 228 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: shooter this year as he was last year. Now, the 229 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: big question what I've been saying is like, it's not 230 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: so much whether or not he it's not so much 231 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: whether or not he's bombing the exact same types of 232 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: really difficult shots that he was last year in the postseason, 233 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: because I really do think that Jokicic just kind of 234 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: was in his zone in a lot of ways, and 235 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: he was hitting some really like you'd a bunch of 236 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: the somber shuffle shots and just a bunch of really 237 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: absurdly difficult shots. I'm more concerned about it in the 238 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: perspective of the pick and pop, like I don't really 239 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: look at those individual like crazy shots as massive swing 240 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: factors over the course of a playoff runt, Like those 241 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: are big plays and they obviously served their purpose, but 242 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: those get categorized for me under rescue possession, which is 243 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: like this is like there's a few seconds on the 244 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: shot clock and we're just throwing something up. I'm more 245 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: concerned about, like, a big part of Jokic's offense last 246 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: year was the pick and pop and you know, hitting 247 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: not just the pick and pop three, but getting a 248 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: lot of close out opportunities off that where he pumped 249 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: fake and then kind of rumbled down the lane towards 250 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: his left hand side and get all the way to 251 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: the rim for a layup or be able to make 252 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: really good kickout reads for high quality shots from there. 253 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it hasn't been a problem in the 254 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: regular season for the most part, because obviously Jokic is 255 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: still the best player in the world, and over the 256 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: course of the eighty two it's it's just not something 257 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: that's gonna manifest. But I do think that it's an 258 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: important element to him being able to counter some of 259 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: the very best teams at the top of the league 260 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: when we get to the later rounds of the postseason. 261 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: And so I think what was really encouraging about last 262 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: night is I think Jokic knows that. Because Jokic is 263 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: very much not the kind of guy this year that 264 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: would be bombing fadeaways when he has a significant size 265 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: advantage or taking somewhat early clock contested threes. I think 266 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: Jokic senses the urgency. I think he knows he's gonna 267 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: need that shot to a certain extent when he gets 268 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: into the postseason. And I think he's ramping up now. 269 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: He's like, it's middle March, today's March twentieth. We got 270 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: what like three weeks or so until we get into 271 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: the into the three and a half weeks, four weeks 272 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: or whatever until we get into the postseason, and I 273 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: think he's just trying to build it out, trying to 274 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: build that rhythm, regain that confidence. We'll be keeping an 275 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: eye on his jump shot over the course of the 276 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: last few weeks of the regular season here, because I 277 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: think that's going to be a strong endict because here's 278 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: the thing. If he shoots the ball like he did 279 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: last year, they're just gonna win again. That to me 280 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: is like what makes Jokic, being just a complete and 281 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: total dead eye jump shooter pretty much makes Denver unbeatable. 282 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: And I think Jokic has identified that and is really 283 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: trying to build it out on the Wolves front. I 284 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: want to talk about Ant for a minute. I've had 285 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: a lot of fun watching him this year. He won 286 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: me over in a lot of ways. Last year I 287 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: became a huge fan of the Timberwolves towards the tail 288 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: end of the season as just a team that brought 289 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 1: an insane level of physicality on the defensive end of 290 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: the floor. And I just am a huge believer in Ant. 291 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: I think he's the one American player that has like 292 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: the real potential to rival these European bigs that are 293 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: killing everybody, right, And you know, watching him lately as 294 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: reminded me a lot of young Lebron James. And they're 295 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: not very similar as players, but they are similar as 296 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: transcendent athletes. And it kind of reminds me of young 297 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: Lebron in the sense like when you watched young Lebron, 298 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: and I'm talking like two thousand and three to twenty ten, 299 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: like that first Cleveland stint, it was like every single 300 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: night you watched him, he was making a half dozen 301 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: highlight plays like I like, and they're all different, right, 302 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: It'd be like a crazy tip dunk, classic transition runout, 303 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: some sort of half court driving dunk in traffic that 304 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: just defies any sort of logic. One of the similarities 305 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: that I see between ant and Lebron and their younger 306 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: phase is the ability to take and make extremely difficult 307 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: jump shots. When we talk about movement jump shots, so 308 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: like that's anything that's flying off a screen and rising 309 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: up and shooting some sort of dribble combination into a shot, 310 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: host fadeaways, all that kind of stuff. The difficulty in 311 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: those shots is not actually in the release. It's in 312 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: the legs. It's in the base. If you I have 313 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: found personally when I'm taking post fades, step back threes, 314 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: things along those lines. As long as I get my lift, 315 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: meaning like I get enough separation to get to my 316 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: spot and I get great lift on the shot, the 317 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: actual shot itself is just a jump shot, that's all 318 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: it is, and as long as you have the appropriate 319 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: amount of lyft, it feels more or less like a 320 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: normal you know, a patch and shoot jump shot does 321 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: there occasionally can get to another level of difficulty when 322 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: you're drifting, because obviously the aiming element is a little 323 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: bit different, But it's all about legs. Those shots are 324 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: all about legs. And Lebron when he was young and 325 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards in this phase of his career. They have 326 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: just this preposterous level of athleticism to where they can 327 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: elevate out of really any spot or footwork ordriple combination 328 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: and get great lift, and so they get to these 329 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: like so the highlights for and it's not just the dunks, 330 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: it's not just the the there's some footwork stuff we're 331 00:15:58,480 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: going to get to in a second that he does too, 332 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: but a lot of it is like really high level, 333 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: difficult jump shot making off of the virtue or off 334 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: of the strength and power of his incredible athleticism in 335 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: his leg strength. We're seeing all this Like another big 336 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: element of the ant highlight reel has been footwork as 337 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: of late, and I think a lot of times we 338 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: don't associate footwork as a skill when it really is 339 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: like you work on ball handling, you work on shooting, 340 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: But footwork is what connects all of those things. The 341 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: only thing that will ever make it so that you 342 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: can use your ball handling to get to a spot 343 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: and then actually make a shot in that spot. The 344 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: bridge that connects those two things is footwork. And so 345 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: the two main pieces of footwork that I wanted to 346 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: dive into for Ant are his slow down steps. So 347 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: this is one of the things he does in the 348 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: lane where like he's this freaky athlete, but he'll slow 349 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: down and take long, powerful steps. And one of the 350 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: things that that does is when Ant beats a guy 351 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: off the dribble, everyone's trying to recover back into space. 352 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: So a lot of times by slowing down he can 353 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: find openings because the dudes who are recovering into the 354 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: player coming in too fast, and so when he slows 355 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: himself down, he can kind of wait for an opening 356 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: to generate and then kind of slide into that opening 357 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: and go He'll hit euro steps. Out of that, he'll 358 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: hit like side step like kind of hooks and floaters 359 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: and things like that. And then the second big one 360 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: is step throughs. And this is a fundamental part of 361 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: a fundamental counter to the post fade, and this kind 362 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: of originally, you know, we talk a lot about Kobe 363 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: and MJ with this stuff, and Ant has definitely taken 364 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: a big part of this. But like, we don't really 365 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: see a lot of guys in the NBA that utilize 366 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: the step through these days. We see post fades. There 367 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: are a lot of guys that take post fades, But 368 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: the step through is kind of something that is a 369 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: little bit of a lost art in the NBA, and 370 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: it's been a big thing in the in the women's game. 371 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: I've noticed, like the step through is is is very 372 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: prominent when you watch women's college troops in WNBA basketball, 373 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: where like the footwork is really sharp at that lot. 374 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: Skill development in general in the women's game is super 375 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: super sharp. But like essentially what a step through is 376 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: when you think of a right shoulder fade in the 377 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: left shoulder fade, the footwork, the way it works is 378 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: like if I have my back to the basket and 379 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: I kind of pivot back and then I pivot over 380 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: my right shoulder to take a right shoulder fade, I'm 381 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: planting my left foot right as I elevate into the shot. 382 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: And if I take a left shoulder fade over this shoulder, 383 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: I'm planting my right foot as I'm coming around to 384 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: elevate and I'm trying to square up in mid air. 385 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: So basically all you're doing on a step through is 386 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: let's start with the right shoulder fade. As I'm coming 387 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: around to plant for that right shoulder fade, I pump 388 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: fake and then I just continue to pivot around. So 389 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: it's like it is basically a double pivot. It's the 390 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: exact same footwork that you would to plant to elevate, 391 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: but I'm planting again and pushing off and propelling myself 392 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: forward towards the rim. And one of the things that 393 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: it's interesting because I never saw it until it became 394 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: super popular in the women's game, but you can actually 395 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: take another step on your step through. And that's something 396 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: you did not see in the NBA when you go 397 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: back to the Kobe's, in the in the in the 398 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: MJ's that it was in the rule book, but it 399 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: just wasn't something that players practiced and did. When you 400 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: take that extra step, you don't have to jump off 401 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: two feet. You can actually step through with that extra 402 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: foot and they consider it part of like your gather 403 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: and right and as part of your gather steps, so 404 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: it's not a travel and so you can step through 405 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: and actually get way closer to the rim and get 406 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: easy shots. And so it hit two of those last night, 407 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: one on I want to say, he hit one on 408 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon and then one on Michael Porter Junior. And 409 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: so against bigger players used footwork to get around them 410 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: in the post, and like, you know, it kind of 411 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: the way it kind of reminds me of the young 412 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: Lebron piece is it almost feels like he knows he's 413 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: so supremely gifted that he's just kind of trying shit 414 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: sometimes like duh, Like let me try this move, let 415 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: me try that move. This shot is really difficult, but 416 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: screw it, Let's just try it, you know, like that 417 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: sort of thing, And like, you know, it's funny because 418 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: when I think about the future of ant that's where 419 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: I also think about the Lebron trajectory in the sense that, 420 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: like when Lebron got out of there into Miami, he 421 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: became more obsessed with efficiency and then it was less 422 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: about trying stuff and like hyper focusing on the things 423 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: that he's already great at. And what's like I talk 424 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: about low hanging fruit and basketball. I talk about how 425 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: young players, when they grow up, what happens is they 426 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: get really good at identifying what works in repeating that, 427 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: and really good at identifying what doesn't work and stopping 428 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: doing that, and that really is the pathway to efficiency. 429 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: And so Aunt is kind of in that young phase 430 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: of his career where like the efficiency like, I think 431 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: he had thirty last night, but he took like twenty 432 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: six shots or something like that, or it was like 433 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: twenty eight points on twenty six shots or something like 434 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: That was the most efficient game that Anthony Edwards has 435 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: ever had, And that obviously is something that's gonna be 436 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: kind of part of his story at this phase of 437 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: his career. But he will reach a point where he's 438 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: passed the young, exciting, just trying stuff phase and he's 439 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: going to enter into like a what am I grade at? 440 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: What do I need to work on? How do I 441 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: up my efficiency? And then that's when he's going to 442 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: leap to an entirely different level. I saw a clip 443 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: on Twitter this morning of him doing an interview with 444 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: Taylor Rooks and she asked him, on a scale of 445 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: one to ten, where he was in his potential and 446 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: he said five out of ten, and then he started 447 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: talking about Kevin Durant, how he's his favorite player, how 448 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: he really wants to get to the point where KD is, 449 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: where every single shot looks the same. And I've talked 450 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: a lot on this this concept on the show, but 451 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: like a jump shot is like muscle memory, even in 452 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: off the drib dribble combination types of stuff. You really 453 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: want to just tweak the things that come before the shot. 454 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: But when you elevate, you want it to look more 455 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: or less like you're catching shoot jump shot. That's where 456 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: you can reach real consistency as a jump shooter. And 457 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: when essentially it's about triggering a muscle memory that you've 458 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: done so many thousands of times that you get more 459 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: consistency out of it, right, And that to me is 460 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: where I get really excited about and it's potential in 461 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: the long run, is like he's got all of this 462 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: ability now, but he hasn't even really figured out how 463 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: to make it into something that's consistent and efficient yet. 464 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: And when he figures that out, it's just it's just 465 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: it's it just watch out, man. And that's that's why 466 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: I look at him as the one guy, the one 467 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: American player who can enter into that conversation with Giannis 468 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: and Embiid and yokicch And and Luca and those guys. 469 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: Last last hit on the Timberwolves, Jade McDaniels, he had 470 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: twenty six points on fifteen shots. Was trying to dunk 471 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: everything in this game kind of reminds me of what 472 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: happens when an athlete discovers his athletic advantage and and 473 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: how like that kind of unlocks a level of aggressiveness. 474 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: And the dead giveaway to me was in the fourth 475 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: quarter there was a play where I can't remember if 476 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: it was on a cut or on a closeout, but 477 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: he was driving along I think it was on a 478 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: pocket pass. But when he caught the ball, he was 479 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: rolling and Jokic was waiting for him at the rim, 480 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: and he caught the ball kind of in the like 481 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: right block, kind of extended out a little bit, and 482 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: if you freeze frame it right when he catches it, 483 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: Jokic is kind of in his way. And I remember, 484 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 1: as I was watching it live, I'm like, I'm like, 485 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: I'd never even conceived that he might dunk it, and 486 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: he just literally rose up over Yokic, and Jokic even 487 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: was surprised. Bat he was like, oh shit, like he 488 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: kind of pulled back at the last second, and Jaden 489 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: just threw down this like jackhammer right right handed dunk, 490 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: and like, to me, it's like that's where Jaden has 491 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: started to realize, like like no one can actually kind 492 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: of contend with him above the rim. Or not many 493 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: people can contend with him above the rim, and that 494 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: to me is like cause he's shown he's shown high 495 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: level shot making, right, he's got that little drifting jumper 496 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: that he hits. He can knock down a three point 497 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: shot at a big and one late in this game. 498 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: But like, really where he has his supreme advantage is 499 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: in his length and athleticism and like that that was 500 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: what was crazy about that twenty six points on fifteen shots, 501 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: getting to the foul line a lot just by going 502 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: aggressively to the rim and just getting hit right across 503 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: the arms and stuff like that, people are gonna hit 504 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: hit the arm instead of the ball just because of 505 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: his athleticism. So again, not too much to take away 506 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: from this game for the Timberwolves, just simply because of 507 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 1: the fact that so many guys were out. But they 508 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: had won three in a row before that, so they're 509 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: playing some good basketball. Then the Nuggets are just gonna 510 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: tough to beat in that situation when you're giving up 511 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: those kinds of advantages. For our next topic, Lebron James 512 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: and JJ Reddick did a podcast yesterday something they recorded 513 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: it seemed about a month ago when the Lakers beat 514 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: the Clippers in that game where Lebron single handedly outscored them. 515 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: At least that's kind of the way it was framed 516 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the show. My initial takeaway on 517 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: the show in general was just it was something that 518 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: I think is important for the overall scale and scope 519 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: of basketball coverage because JJ Reddick, in my opinion, is 520 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: the very best in the world at what I do 521 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: for a living, meaning like covering the NBA on a 522 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: national level. I think JJ's the best at it. He 523 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: obviously does more than what I do as well, because 524 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: he does color commentary and additional stuff like that and 525 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: debate shows and things like that. But specifically within the 526 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: realm of basketball analysis, I don't think anybody does it 527 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: better than JJ. And then Lebron James is arguably the 528 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: most famous basketball player in the world, at least active 529 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: basketball player, and he brings an incredible amount of IQ 530 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: to the table, an incredible amount of CACHE to the table. Specifically, 531 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: what stands out to me is they put up a 532 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: ridiculous number on YouTube in that in that show, and 533 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't about anything urgent, Like it wasn't like we're 534 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: gonna break down what happened in last night's game. It 535 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: wasn't like we're gonna break down this team or that team. 536 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: It was just generic, in a vacuum basketball conversation. And 537 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: I think like getting that kind of viewership for that 538 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: sort of of like non urgent topic is just a 539 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: testament to the power, the star power that those two 540 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: guys bring to the table. And obviously namely Lebron, but JJ, 541 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: JJ has reached a certain level of notoriety in his 542 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: field as well, and so I really enjoyed it. There's 543 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 1: a lot of really good conversation. I'll be honest with you, 544 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: I'm I A part of me wishes that this was 545 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: something that was more consistent and more focused on the 546 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: actual day to day NBA because I think it could 547 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: be incredible. But it's early, so we'll see. We'll see 548 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: what ends up happening over time. I wanted to hit 549 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: on a couple of specific things that they talked about 550 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: talked about those so at the beginning there were is 551 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: a conversation about the three things that make a good 552 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: basketball player, and there was a specific point that JJ 553 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: made about something called that he calls competitive stamina. And 554 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: I think this was really interesting to me because this 555 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: is a very specific reason why I harp on something 556 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: called habits, right, there's a reason why I've talked about 557 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: it with the Sons and the Kings a lot souns 558 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: Kings and MAVs a lot as of late. And what 559 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: I mean by habits is like a habit is something 560 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: you do unconsciously. A habit is something that is so 561 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: baked into your routine that you just it's it's almost 562 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: easy to do because you're just accustomed to doing it. 563 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: And the reason why I think habits matter so much 564 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: is when you get into any sort of situation with adversity, 565 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: whether it's like a game that's slipping away from you 566 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: or some sort of emotional adversity or whatever it is 567 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: that's going on, your habits will carry you through those 568 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: moments because, like like anything that you're not consistent in, 569 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: when adversity hits, those will be the first things that 570 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: you stop doing right and then like your true core 571 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: nature will reveal itself in those situations, And so you 572 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: need to take your day to day routine and make 573 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: it into a habit so that that is what you 574 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: lean back on when the shit hits the fan. For 575 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: lack of a better term, right, and so that like 576 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: when when JJ talks about competitive stamina, that's literally that's 577 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: literally what I think of think of when I talk 578 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: about habits, so specifically, for instance, like for me, I 579 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: remember shooting workouts. I used to do them relatively casually 580 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: when I was in my early twenties, and then I 581 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: heard a lot from younger KD talking about doing your 582 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: practice reps at game speed, and that was something that 583 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: like when I first started doing was hard because like 584 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: you're in an empty gym, and like, I have this 585 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: shooting workout that I do that's like a combination of 586 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 1: like four or five drills, and like I'll like I'll 587 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: be I'll give you an example, like a rip through 588 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: one dribble pull up drill that I that I do 589 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,479 Speaker 1: every single day. And like, so I pitched the ball 590 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: out to myself at the top of the key, facing 591 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: away from the basket, and then I reverse pivot and 592 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,479 Speaker 1: I rip through as hard as I can, and then 593 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,959 Speaker 1: I do a left right take off into a pull 594 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,239 Speaker 1: up jump shot, and then I do the same thing 595 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: going left until I make five going both ways. Then 596 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: I move it back with a counter move, so I 597 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,239 Speaker 1: rip through and then do a counter move and then 598 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: take off going left and vice versa right and that drill. 599 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: Like when I was doing it casually, it was easy 600 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: because you know, I have just reverse pivot and push 601 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: the ball out in front and I elevate and it's 602 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: just kind of almost like treated it almost like a 603 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: warm up, And like all of a sudden, you realize 604 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: you're practicing a shot that you'll never take in a game, 605 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: because guess what, Never in a basketball game do you 606 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: get to casually rise up into a jump shot, Like 607 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: if you're gonna take a wonderable pull up, if you're 608 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: gonna shoot any sort off the dribble jump shot against 609 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: real basketball players, you gotta be moving. You gotta be 610 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: moving with real pace and speed. And like even for 611 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: a guy who's as big and athletic as I am, 612 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: like you still have to have a certain amount of 613 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: pace that you bring to those shots to get him 614 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: off against good defensive players. Because again, that's the thing, 615 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: like six six and six ' ten wingspan, like like 616 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: I have that's tall compared to like the average pickup game. Maybe, 617 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: but like if you go play against you know, go 618 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: play at an open gym at a at a college somewhere, 619 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: go play against real college athletes when they come back 620 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: to town, or overseas athletes when they come back to town, 621 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, there's a lot of wings 622 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: that are six six and six seven and sixty eight, 623 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: and suddenly you need to have a certain level of 624 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: verve that you bring to the table to be able 625 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: to get your shot off right. So when you try 626 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: the drill with like real game speed and I'm reverse 627 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: pivoting and I'm ripping through as hard as I can, 628 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: I'm covering a ton of ground and I'm elevating, it's hard. 629 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: It hurts your body when you're in your mid thirties, 630 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: like it. It takes a certain amount of like of 631 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: like of exertion that's hard to do at the beginning 632 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: of a workout. And when I first started doing it, 633 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: it was really challenging, but over the course of the 634 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: weeks it became a habit for me, and now, like, 635 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: I literally don't know how to do it any other way. 636 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: And now when I go up to the gym and 637 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: I go to do those those drills, like I ring 638 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: a certain level of intensity to it just because that's 639 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: the only way I know how to do it. It 640 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: has become a habit for me. And so as a 641 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: result of that, like I have this like routine that 642 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: I stick to every single day, and like even when 643 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: I don't do it, it feels weird. Like if I 644 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: happen to skip a shooting work out on one day 645 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: because of whatever, I'm busy with work, or my wife 646 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: and I are are have some sort of function, or 647 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: we're out of town or whatever, it is, like it 648 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: just feels weird, right, And like to me, like that, 649 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: when JJ talks about competitive stamina, that's what I think about. 650 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: I think about establishing habits and making it so that 651 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: specific behaviors of yours become habitual, even something simply like breakfast. 652 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: I used to never have breakfast, and it was such 653 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: a stupid thing because I'd deal with these crazy energy 654 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: swings throughout the day. And now I have a five 655 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: part breakfast every single morning, three over medium eggs. I 656 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: take oatmeal, a banana, a yogurt, and an athletic greens 657 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: every single day in the morning, first thing in the 658 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: morning when I wake up really hard at first. Now 659 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: it's a habit. So now like every morning I wake up, 660 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: that's just what I do, and that's helped me so 661 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: much with energy levels throughout the day because I just 662 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: get this really big, you know, kind of versatile breakfast 663 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: every morning that kind of checks all of those boxes, right. 664 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: And so the second part of it is what fuels 665 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: a person to build those kinds of habits, Like what 666 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: is it that allows a person to get to that point? 667 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: And a couple of things. Love of the game. Both 668 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: Lebron James and JJ Reddick talked about love of the game. 669 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: I think that is a key element because obviously, like 670 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: it's easy to work on shooting drills, it's easy to 671 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: get in the gym and work on your game when 672 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: you love basketball, because like even something still like the 673 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: only example the counter that I give is like when 674 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: I was a kid, and I when I was in 675 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: high school, when I was playing high school football my 676 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: freshman and sophomore year, I hated practice. So every day 677 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: when you went to practice, you're just in survival mode. Now, 678 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: my gew I was in Arizona, so it's hotter than 679 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: well and uh and you're outside at the sun and 680 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: it's and you know, every everybody who's played football knows 681 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: exactly what I'm talking about. But like practice sucked, so 682 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,239 Speaker 1: it was hard to kind of get up to do 683 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: it right. And like, but basketball, It's like when I 684 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: today today, because I'm covering Celtics Bucks, I am not 685 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: gonna go to the normal pickup run that I go. 686 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: So this afternoon, I'm gonna go do a shooting workout 687 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: and like, that's gonna be fun for me. You're gonna 688 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: put my headphones in, I'll listen to a podcast or 689 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: listen to some music, and like for thirty to forty 690 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: five minutes, it's gonna be enjoyable for me to do 691 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: a workout because I love basketball, and so like that's 692 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: that is a that is a foundational concept. Secondly, competitiveness. 693 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: To me, this is I talk about this on the 694 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: show a lot, but separating love of the game from 695 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: a hatred of losing, because I do think those are 696 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: two very different things. I think there are people in 697 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: the NBA who love basketball but don't hate losing enough 698 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: to kind of push themselves to that next level, and 699 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: so I think that that is an important element of it. 700 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: I think the greatest basketball players of all time are 701 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: all people who both love the game but also hate losing. 702 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: And then finally, a general lifestyle of excellence. And so 703 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: what I mean by this, I wanted to use this 704 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: as an opportunity to shout out a friend of mine, 705 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: Sam Beskin. He came out a Tucson playing at Catelena 706 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: Foot Hills at the school that I coached. He was coaching, 707 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: or he played there before I started coaching there, though, 708 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: but I met him through the program and he went 709 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: on to play at Stanford, and then he transferred from 710 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: Stamford to play at Colorado School of Mines and he's 711 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: been there this year and this year is his final 712 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: season there. But I worked out with him over the 713 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: course of the last three summers and got to know 714 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: him personally. And I've never met a human being that 715 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: approaches every single task in his life with the same 716 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: level of intensity and discipline and focus and competitiveness. And 717 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: because I'm the exact opposite, I'm like anything involving my 718 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: job which has to do with basketball, I'm locked in. 719 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm giving it everything I got. Anything having to do 720 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: with basketball as a player or as coach, I'm handling 721 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: it with like one hundred percent of everything that I have. 722 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: But like, if I wanted to go, if my wife 723 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: was like, you want to go, run a couple of 724 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: miles with me today, I'd have a really hard time 725 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,479 Speaker 1: pushing myself through that run. If I went on a hike, 726 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: I'd have a hard time like pushing myself through that 727 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: hike because like I'd be I'd get through it. But 728 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: I just I have a hard time personally, like being 729 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: really engaged in things that I'm not passionate about. And 730 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: like the sam My buddy Sam, like he just no 731 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 1: matter what it is, whether it's his diet, whether it's school. 732 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: He was a scholar athlete selection in the Pac twelve 733 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: when he was at Stanford. Uh, I like even like 734 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: he told me a story about how he was in 735 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: a run on campus with a with a guy who 736 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: was a marathon or at Stanford, and like and like 737 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: he got his butt kicked in the first lap and 738 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: so he like pushed himself on the second lap and 739 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: like actually managed to keep up with the guy and like, 740 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: and I'm just I'm so impressed by just his overall 741 00:34:55,080 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: like ability to get his mind and body to peak 742 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: efficiency and output regardless of what he's doing. And I 743 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: think I think all of the best basketball players and 744 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: best whatever it is that they do and whatever their 745 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 1: profession in the world. Those people, it's not just that 746 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: they love their profession, it's not just that they're competitive. 747 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: They have a general lifestyle of excellence and like that 748 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: that sort of thing, to me is is something that 749 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: kind of goes under the table or that gets kind 750 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: of like not given the appropriate level of regard when 751 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: we talk about these guys. Next, can basketball i Q 752 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: be learned? This was the third thing that that JJ 753 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: Redick put on his list of things that make a 754 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: good basketball player. And Lebron and JJ had kind of 755 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: a back and forth about it, and Lebron talked about 756 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: some of it being kind of like you're born with 757 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: and and and JJ talked about some of it that 758 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: you can be that can learn. I tend to agree 759 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: that it can be learned. Separate basketball IQ from the 760 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: natural gift, which is the ability to process information quickly 761 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: in the heat of the moment. That to me is 762 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: the the like the natural part of it. Right, So, 763 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: like when I talk about guys like Lebron, nikolea Jokic, Luka, Doncicic, 764 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: you know, Chris Paul h you know Trey Young, like 765 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: all of the really really high level passers in the league, 766 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: it's a couple of different things. It's not just basketball 767 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: IQ having to do with understanding reads. We'll talk about 768 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: that in a minute. A lot of it is a 769 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: human superpower in that in the heat of action, when 770 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: lots of shit is going on around them, they can 771 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: quickly interpret information and make decisions on the fly. That 772 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: is the that to me is the natural gift that 773 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: pushes them over the top. That is not learnable. That 774 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 1: is something that you're born with, right But the basketball 775 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: i Q piece is learned in my opinion, meaning like 776 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 1: the actual nature of the reads. So for instance, let's 777 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: just talk about pick and roll. So like if I'm 778 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 1: running a ball screen on the left side of the floor, 779 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: I have and we'll talk about this not in the 780 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: concept of five out, but rather in four. So I've 781 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 1: got a guy standing in the left corner as a shooter, 782 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: standing in the right corner as a shooter, standing on 783 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: the right wing as the shooter, and I've got the 784 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: guy coming up to set an all screen so i 785 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: can get to my right hand downhill. In that situation, 786 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: you can learn what the reads are. So for instance, 787 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: defender's icing the screen, meaning he is denying me access 788 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: to the screen and forcing me towards the baseline side. 789 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: I can do a couple of different things there as 790 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: a read. I can either just take that baked in 791 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: driving lane, draw the help defender and make a read 792 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: from there. Or I can use it as an opportunity 793 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: to set him up for the screen. So hard dribble 794 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 1: to the left, then a counter dribble, and then try 795 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: to use the screen, basically trying to get him onto 796 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: the opposite side of you so that you can use 797 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 1: the screen. If he's in a trail position by come 798 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: off of the screen and the guy is not digging 799 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: down off the shooter on the right wing, and the 800 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: big man is far back, and I can get some 801 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: separation from the guy off the screen, I'm taking the three. 802 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: If the big is back and they're not digging down 803 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: off the wing and the guard is chasing over the 804 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: top and he's doing a good job staying attack, I 805 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,240 Speaker 1: need to continue to work downhill and if nobody else comes, 806 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: I need to get a floater off before I get 807 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: to the big man. If the big Man steps up, 808 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: that's where the pocket pass is there. If the big 809 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: Man stays back but there's nail help meaning the guy 810 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 1: coming from the wing all I need to do is 811 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: make the swing pass to the wing. If the big 812 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: man comes up and the pocket pass is not open 813 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: because they're tagging from the weak side off of the 814 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: guy in the corner, it's the skip pass to the 815 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: corner and to hit that shooter or if he cuts 816 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: along the baseline. You can learn those reads through a 817 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: film study and just understanding the game, and literally anybody, 818 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 1: even someone who's never played basketball in their life, can 819 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: learn basketball reads. But in the game, what applies those 820 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: things is a combination of skill, meaning like the ability 821 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: to dribble and pass and like actually handle a basketball right. 822 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: But the second part of it is to be able 823 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: to quickly process those things. There are lots of guys 824 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: in the league who understand the reads but can't pick 825 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: them up quickly. When you see one of your favorite 826 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: players in the league go go into a ball screen 827 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: and miss a skip pass or miss an easy read, 828 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: it's not because he doesn't know that read exists. He 829 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: knows it's there, he just hasn't processed it in the 830 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: heat of the moment. He struggled to see it all right. 831 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: And there's no shame in that, because literally, it's like 832 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: only a handful of guys at the top of the 833 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: league that are that gifted at processing those things on 834 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: the ball that quickly. Right now, there's a middle tier 835 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: there in terms of processing speed in IQ, and this 836 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,280 Speaker 1: is where we get all the high IQ role players 837 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 1: and things along those lines. Those guys they can make 838 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: reads relatively quickly in their specific role, and there's a 839 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 1: ton of value there as well. But when I'm talking 840 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: about the stars at the top of the league, it 841 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: is kind of rare to have a guy that can 842 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,919 Speaker 1: quickly process those things super quickly every single time, get 843 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,439 Speaker 1: the ball in the right spots every single time. Two 844 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: other quick ones before we move on Lebron's point about 845 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 1: centers naturally wanting to drop towards the rim on help 846 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: on drives even if they're guarding shooters. This is fine. 847 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: I just thought this was funny because this is something 848 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: we talked about the show over the last few weeks. Specifically, 849 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: I think it was when we were talking about the 850 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 1: Cavs game when Cave Celtics, when Porzingis kept leaving Dean 851 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,280 Speaker 1: Wade open on the perimeter. I talked about the natural 852 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: inclinations of centers and their tendency to want to drop 853 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,760 Speaker 1: back towards the rim and to be in a position 854 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: to help. And like how sometimes a player's natural tendencies 855 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: will go against whatever the game plan discipline is. And 856 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: so Lebron made a point about how like when he 857 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 1: sees when he sees in a switch situation, a center 858 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 1: guarding the shooter in the strong side corner and he's 859 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: on the strong side wing, Lebron will just drive really 860 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 1: hard towards that right hand side because he knows, even 861 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 1: though the center is not supposed to help out the 862 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: strong side wing or strong side corner, he knows he 863 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: wants to because it's his natural inclination. And I thought 864 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: that was really really fascinating because like again, like there 865 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: are these like little tendencies that you can capitalize on, 866 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 1: and that's a great example of one. It's just like 867 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: centers have a tendency to want to help, so if 868 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 1: you drive in their general direction, you might be able 869 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: to get an open three, just simply baked based on 870 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: that center's specific tendencies. And then finally, Lebron and JJ 871 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: had a long conversation about the Warriors beating the Celtics 872 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty two finals because of IQ and 873 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: not talent. I just thought that was interesting because it's 874 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: Lebron James saying it, and that's something that me and 875 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: Colin talked about a ton heading into that series and 876 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: after that series. We both said before that series we 877 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: thought the Celtics were the more talented team, but that 878 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: we expected the Warriors to win on the strength of 879 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: their experience and on Steph Curry being the best player 880 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,479 Speaker 1: in the series. And I one hundred percent agree. Lebron 881 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: went on this rant about how the top four teams 882 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: in the league when you get to the conference finals, 883 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: those teams are all generally very good and all have 884 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: lots of talent, and what separates from those four is IQ. 885 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: And I thought that was really fascinating because again, like 886 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 1: margins get really tight at that point, and what swings 887 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: margins are little tiny details, and teams that have high 888 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: IQ don't make as many mistakes in the details. All right, 889 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: quick mail bag, and then we're out of here. I 890 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 1: heard you speak on why Kelly Ubre has been a 891 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 1: very smart has been very smart with his reads on 892 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: screen and rolls and getting open dunks on his tags 893 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: and his tags. I'm sorry, guys, I'm gonna just start 894 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: that one over. I heard you speak on why Kelly 895 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: Ubre has been very smart with his reads on screen 896 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 1: and rolls and getting open dunks when it says in 897 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 1: his tags the roller, but I'm assuming he means when 898 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: the roller is tagged. If this is the case, why 899 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: was he just not a good fit in Golden State? 900 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: My impression was that he was is that he just 901 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,240 Speaker 1: wasn't good enough at the free flowing read and react 902 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: type of offense and couldn't figure out how to get 903 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: how to gel well enough with Steph Curry. So I agree, 904 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: But this this is a classic example of the difference 905 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: between a four out offense and a five out offense. So, 906 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: for instance, if you are in a situation where you 907 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: are spotting up in the corner and they're running two 908 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 1: man game and you are watching your lowman, right, so 909 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: the guy who's guarding you is now the lowman. So 910 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: if I'm in the corner ball screens on the opposite wing, 911 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: the guy who's guarding me, his job is if there's 912 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: anything that happens to where the pick and roll gets compromised, 913 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 1: meaning like the roman gets behind the screen defender, maybe 914 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: the guard starts to get downhill or maybe it's a 915 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: blitz and the ball gets to the short roll guy, 916 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: he has to step up and basically be the guy 917 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 1: who defends whoever it is that's coming down the lane. 918 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 1: And so you are now making a very simple read 919 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,240 Speaker 1: as the guy in the corner. Right, If he doesn't 920 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 1: go very far, you want to stay in the corner 921 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: to space. But if he steps up and leaves a 922 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: vacancy like kind of a runway for you, that's when 923 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 1: you want to cut along the baseline. That's a simple 924 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: read that is not as complicated as some of the 925 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 1: more complicated reads that Kelly Yubrad had to make in 926 00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 1: Golden State's five out offense, and specifically for Golden State, 927 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: they were a big believer in like even when you're open, 928 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 1: you don't shoot, you turn and run a DHO for 929 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: one of their shooters, right, Like Gary Payton's a great 930 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: example of this. Like the dude will take if he's 931 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: just standing wide open, he'll take a shot. But if 932 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,320 Speaker 1: he catches and he's not in a great position to shoot, 933 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: and I mean a great position to shoot, he's turning 934 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: and flowing into a DHO, right, And like so much 935 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: of that, there's more high level cutting in the Golden 936 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: State offense from different spots on the floor and so 937 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: againt like those are examples of him improving making reads 938 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 1: within that specific role operating out of the corner as 939 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 1: a spacer. But it's not the same as some of 940 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: the more like because no team in the league runs 941 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 1: more action and I mean literally run sets out of 942 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 1: five out than Golden State does. They are as structured 943 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,760 Speaker 1: an offense as you'll find in the league. Next question, 944 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on BAM's recent three point attempt streak? 945 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 1: Is it sustainable? Why has it taken so long? So 946 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: in the last four games, Bam and Toebayo's five for 947 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,720 Speaker 1: five from three, including a game winner against the Detroit 948 00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: Pistons a bomb from about twenty five feet at the 949 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: top the key. Here's the thing. I don't think Bam 950 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 1: needs a three point shot, and obviously if you can 951 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: make it at a high percentage, you want to take 952 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 1: it just from the same point of shot value. But 953 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 1: for me, Bam is in a very similar situation to Yannis. 954 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: He primarily functions with his athleticism as a cog in 955 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 1: their offense. It's different than yanis because down Jannis operates more, 956 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,760 Speaker 1: you know, kind of on an island, trying to attack 957 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 1: and score. But what I mean by that is, like 958 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 1: I don't think Yannis needs a three point shot. I 959 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 1: think he needs to be able to make shots over 960 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: contests around the rim, and I mean like before the rim, 961 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,760 Speaker 1: so like little push shots, floaters, half hooks, short jump shots, 962 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 1: things like that matter more to Yannis. That's how I 963 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 1: feel about Bam. Great that he made five threes, but 964 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: he misses like half of his shot attempts that aren't 965 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 1: dunks within eight feet of the rim. So like that's 966 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: the real problem. Like it's more can you make the floater, 967 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: can you make the pop shot in the lane? Can 968 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 1: you make the short jump shot or the little hook 969 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: shot over the defense? Obviously the three point shot going 970 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 1: in over the last four games is it's not like 971 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 1: it's a bad thing. But like, that's not the difference 972 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: between Bam reaching where he is now and reaching his 973 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: ultimate potential. To me, he's got to become a guy 974 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: who can hit sixty sixty five percent of his non 975 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: dunks around the rim, and he's just not there right now, 976 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: and that's where he's holding himself back. Offensively. I've never 977 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 1: heard of a tense seed, a tense seeded team getting exposed. 978 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 1: We knew they sucked. This was after the Warriors lost 979 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: to the Knicks. Just going to take another example opportunity 980 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 1: to talk really quickly about how the Warriors and Lakers 981 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: are better than their record. Warriors are twenty three and 982 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: sixteen when both Draymond Green and Steph Curry play. That's 983 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 1: a win percentage that if for the whole year they 984 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 1: stayed at that level, they would pass the Lakers in 985 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 1: the standings, they passed the Suns in the standings, they 986 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 1: passed the Mavericks, and the standings, they passed the Kings 987 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,360 Speaker 1: in the standings, they'd be out of the play and 988 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,839 Speaker 1: they'd be at the sixth seed right now. That's even 989 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: with everything that's gone wrong this year, if they just 990 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 1: had the winning percentage when Steph and Draymond are on 991 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: the floor together and the Warriors are not on the 992 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 1: upper tier, they are not as good as Denver, They're 993 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 1: not as good as Boston. I don't even think they're 994 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:12,319 Speaker 1: as good as a healthy Minnesota team. Necessarily, it's I 995 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 1: would be tempted to pick teams like the Bucks and 996 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 1: the Clippers over them, but everyone else, every other team 997 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: in that group, whether it's the Knicks, whether it's the 998 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,240 Speaker 1: Sixers when they're healthy, whether it's the Suns or the Kings, 999 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 1: or the Pelicans or the thunder like all those teams. 1000 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 1: I think the Warriors and the Lakers are just as 1001 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: good as them. It's all those teams. It's about matchups, right, 1002 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 1: Like the Kings just did a number on the Bucks 1003 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 1: and Lakers and and then lost at home the other night. 1004 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: I'm blanking on who they actually lost to in that game. 1005 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 1: But everybody can lose to anybody on any given night. 1006 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 1: That's not a I think it was it was it 1007 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 1: the Knicks. I think it was the Knicks, But that 1008 00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,720 Speaker 1: that that group is very notchup oriented. Anybody can beat anybody. 1009 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,320 Speaker 1: It's just a depend Like if your weakness aligns with 1010 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 1: another team's strength, you'll lose in that matchup. But that 1011 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're necessarily a worst team, because that team's 1012 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 1: strength might match up differently with another team strength and 1013 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,720 Speaker 1: weakness and they might lose that matchup. Right, The Lakers 1014 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: and the Warriors are way down in the standings. The 1015 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 1: Warriors because Draymond Green missed a significant chunk of the 1016 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 1: season and the Lakers because they went three to ten 1017 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 1: after winning the N Season Tournament, which dug them a 1018 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,840 Speaker 1: massive hole in the standings. Outside of the times that 1019 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 1: Draymond missed, the Warriors have been really good outside of 1020 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 1: that three and ten stretch after the N Season Tournament. 1021 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 1: The Lakers have been really good. They are better than 1022 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 1: their records. They are not top tier contenders, they're not 1023 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: even second tier contenders, but they're every bit as good 1024 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 1: as those other teams in those tiers. And if you 1025 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 1: think just because they're a nine seed or a ten seed, 1026 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 1: that's an accurate representation of how much talent they have 1027 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 1: on the roster, I think I would disagree with you 1028 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 1: at that point. Last question this was in response to 1029 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: the Lebron Jay topic we had at the end of 1030 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: the show yesterday. A hair over Lebron, I said MJ 1031 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 1: was a hair over Lebron. If you check the criteria 1032 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 1: for the goat of any sport, it's all about dominating 1033 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: the sport for a long enough period of time while 1034 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:16,840 Speaker 1: winning championships in a dominating fashion. Any case for Lebron 1035 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: James has to do with his longevity in dominating a 1036 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: conference and not the league. His underwhelming finals record speaks 1037 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,720 Speaker 1: to that playing longer does it make you better unless 1038 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 1: we are just speaking to the best athlete. A couple things. 1039 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 1: I technically lean more towards dominating over longevity personally as well. 1040 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,959 Speaker 1: That's why I have MJ Hairover Lebron. But a couple 1041 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:44,320 Speaker 1: of things. First of all, Lebron James dominating the Eastern Conference. 1042 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,480 Speaker 1: I agree with you, it's an overrated kind of thing 1043 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 1: to talk about, right, Like he has ten conference championships, 1044 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 1: nine of which took place in the Eastern Conference. That's 1045 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 1: certainly impressive. But yeah, the Eastern Conference was weak more 1046 00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 1: at the time, like it's The Eastern Conference is weak 1047 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: now in a different way than it is back in 1048 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 1: Lebron's era. Like now the East is weak at the bottom, 1049 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 1: but there are still really good teams at the top 1050 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: every single year, usually two or three, like really good 1051 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,959 Speaker 1: teams in Lebron's East. There just never was a team 1052 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: remotely as good as them, and so they kicked everyone's 1053 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,319 Speaker 1: ass in the postseason every single year because the best 1054 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,479 Speaker 1: team they'd face would be a Pacers team with Paul 1055 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 1: George or a you know, a Raptors team with De 1056 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 1: Mardiros in Kyle Lowry. But every time we have this conversation, 1057 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,919 Speaker 1: we gloss over a simple fact. Lebron James has won 1058 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 1: four NBA championships. So forget about the damn conference titles 1059 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: all you want. He has four damn championships since he 1060 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 1: came in the league. No player or franchise has won 1061 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,359 Speaker 1: more championships than Lebron. That is a certain level of 1062 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 1: dominance in its own way. And so like again, like, 1063 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 1: you're right, the conference championship thing is a little bit overblown. Yes, 1064 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 1: Lebron played in the East, and then he still ill 1065 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,360 Speaker 1: hoisted the Dan Larry O'Brien Trophy four times, despite a 1066 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 1: lot of things that worked against him over that span, 1067 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 1: like the Cavs originally never putting a championship level roster 1068 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 1: around him in his first stretch there in Cleveland, Like 1069 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 1: the Kyrie fiasco in twenty eighteen, Like Anthony Davis's injury 1070 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 1: history and immediate decline after the twenty twenty playoff run. 1071 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 1: Like if I told you after Lebron convinced Ad to 1072 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,920 Speaker 1: come over in the summer of twenty nineteen, if I 1073 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 1: told you, hey, Lebron's going to be really good for 1074 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 1: all five of the next five years, you'd be like, Okay, 1075 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 1: they're winning multiple titles, but no ad had a significant 1076 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 1: injury stretch and declined as significantly as a player. Went 1077 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:43,719 Speaker 1: from being a guy who's in contention for the best 1078 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 1: player in the world to a guy who's a fringe 1079 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,800 Speaker 1: top ten guy now right, And like that is the 1080 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 1: Despite all of that, he still hoisted the trophy four times. 1081 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 1: And so again, when we're talking about Lebron's dominance, he's 1082 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 1: not as dominant as MJ, but he's still pretty damn dominant. 1083 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 1: I didn't even talk about in that stretch, Like literally, 1084 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:07,560 Speaker 1: after Lebron won his third title, the two best players 1085 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 1: beneath him in the league teamed up. He's the best 1086 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 1: player in the league. He won his third title, just 1087 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,359 Speaker 1: beat a seventy three win team, had back to back 1088 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,279 Speaker 1: forty plus point games in the in the finals, had 1089 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,720 Speaker 1: a stranglehold on the best player in the world title. 1090 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 1: And then Kevin Durant and Steph Curry teamed up on 1091 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,120 Speaker 1: a team that already had one of the best coaches 1092 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,800 Speaker 1: in the league, the best defender in the league in 1093 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 1: Draymond Green, the best wing defender in the league, and 1094 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 1: Andre Udala, the second best shooter in the league who's 1095 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,160 Speaker 1: also an excellent perimeter defender in Klay Thompson. All of that, 1096 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,279 Speaker 1: plus the two players in the league that were right 1097 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:46,360 Speaker 1: behind Lebron like like any still hoisted the trophy four times. 1098 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 1: So like again, I think when we're I think when 1099 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,480 Speaker 1: we're talking about Lebron James dominance, it's it's important to 1100 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 1: view it as different than MJ. But it's not a 1101 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,879 Speaker 1: lack of accomplishment. Like think about the way Larry Bird 1102 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,799 Speaker 1: is revered. He only has three of them, right, Like, 1103 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 1: it's it's not I think that the Lebron's dominance has 1104 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 1: actually become a little underrated in that regard. Lastly, his 1105 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 1: a playing longer doesn't make you better unless we are 1106 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 1: just speaking to the best athlete. This I just fundamentally 1107 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 1: disagree with. Obviously, dominance is the larger factor as I 1108 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 1: talked about, but I do think longevity really matters, and 1109 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: the reason why is simple. If I was talking about 1110 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 1: who the best basketball player ever was, I look at 1111 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 1: it from the perspective of if I was a if 1112 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 1: I owned a franchise and I had to start from scratch, 1113 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,320 Speaker 1: and I could only pick one player in NBA history 1114 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,240 Speaker 1: to start with, and I could have their entire career, 1115 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 1: which player gives me the most opportunity to win the 1116 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 1: most championships in a vacuum. And if I get twenty 1117 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 1: years of Lebron James playing at a top ten level, 1118 00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 1: during which a hefty I go like nine years from 1119 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: twenty twelve to twenty twenty, I thought he was clearly 1120 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 1: the best player in the world. So for a nine 1121 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 1: year stretch there he was literally number one. So I'm 1122 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 1: getting nine years of number one in an additional eleven 1123 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,759 Speaker 1: years of top ten and then that first year, but 1124 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 1: Lebron is still top twenty. So like with that being 1125 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,240 Speaker 1: my kind of foundation for bringing in a star player 1126 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 1: to start my franchise, I have a really good chance 1127 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,799 Speaker 1: to win. And so that's why I look at longevity 1128 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 1: as also a significant part of the case, because you 1129 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,799 Speaker 1: want to see what ceiling the guy can reach, but 1130 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: how long he stays there is a big indicator. Because 1131 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,359 Speaker 1: again in the NBA, like a lot of shit can 1132 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 1: go down, matchups can be weird, injuries can happen. Sometimes, 1133 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,720 Speaker 1: you sometimes even though you are in a good position 1134 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,680 Speaker 1: to win the title, just bad things happen and you 1135 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 1: don't twenty fifteen, but another title, Lebron probably wins if 1136 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 1: his team is healthy. I believe a healthy Kyrie and 1137 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,720 Speaker 1: Kevin Love with Lebron James be the Warriors in twenty fifteen. 1138 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:06,720 Speaker 1: That's trophy number five. Like that, Like again, anything can happen. 1139 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 1: And so that's why getting more cracks at the table, 1140 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,880 Speaker 1: more you know, pulls at the slot machine, so to speak, 1141 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 1: give you more opportunities to win. And that's why longevity matters. 1142 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,120 Speaker 1: All right, guys, that's all I have for today is 1143 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,800 Speaker 1: always sincerely appreciate you guys for supporting the show. I 1144 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,279 Speaker 1: shouldn't say that's all we have for today. That's all 1145 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 1: we have for this morning. We will be back tonight 1146 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 1: right around about let's see, the game starts at seven 1147 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:32,279 Speaker 1: thirty eastern, so right around like what's that going to 1148 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 1: be a right around like ten o'clock eastern. We'll be 1149 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,840 Speaker 1: recording live on YouTube. After the final buzzer of Buck Celtics, 1150 00:55:37,880 --> 00:56:11,520 Speaker 1: I will see you guys that the volume