Speaker 1: I think Jackson will be fine this year. I think
Speaker 1: he'll kind of slidicisfy himself as one of the best
Speaker 1: center fielders in young the talent in the game there today.
Speaker 2: Hey, we've got former big league closer Heath Bell joining
Speaker 2: us right now and he's one of the new hosts
Speaker 2: of Friar Territory. All geared up right now too. He's
Speaker 2: great to have you on here for the first time. Man,
Speaker 2: how you doing and you're having fun hosting the show?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm having a good time. Thanks for having me. Guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, great to see you dude. All right, so let's
Speaker 2: do this and then we'll talk a lot.
Speaker 4: Can you gain twenty five pounds in three months a fat?
Speaker 3: Definitely, exactly.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm twenty five pounds, but I can't
Speaker 1: gain it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty five pounds of muscle and easy without help.
Speaker 2: But all right, let's hit San Diego Padre storylines. This
Speaker 2: is what we want to go over with Heath and
Speaker 2: then fans, if you have a question, just type it
Speaker 2: in family drama. So will the Padres internal legal battle
Speaker 2: prevent aj Preller from doing what he normally does? So
Speaker 2: far we have seen that being the case, NL best,
Speaker 2: the NL West is lit. Yes, Dodgers, Dbacks, Giants all
Speaker 2: got better. Jackson Merril was so good last year? How
Speaker 2: do you prevent the sophomore slump? And bullpen bullies? The
Speaker 2: bullpen's tough. It almost ended the Dodgers season early. Can
Speaker 2: they run it back? Minus Tanner Scott Okay Heath. Let's
Speaker 2: start at the top here. This is a topic that's
Speaker 2: been discussed on Friar Territory. What do you think is
Speaker 2: going on right now at the front office and how
Speaker 2: much it's affecting the padres from doing business the way
Speaker 2: that they would like to do it. Aj Preller just
Speaker 2: loves activity and action and he's had to be held
Speaker 2: back to how he usually is.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: AJ loves to spend money and he can't spend money
Speaker 1: right now, so that's kind of that's probably heartbreaking for him.
Speaker 1: For the last you know, year or so, he's had
Speaker 1: a cut back on the payroll, but his hands have
Speaker 1: been tied because the ownership is fighting for position, the
Speaker 1: brothers and the ex wife so or the widow, I
Speaker 1: guess you could say. So it's just a it's a
Speaker 1: frustrating time and I think the players try to block
Speaker 1: it out as much as you can, but you can't help,
Speaker 1: you know, like King and you know, trying to do
Speaker 1: a long term contract, and other guys and other people
Speaker 1: don't want to come here because you just don't know
Speaker 1: who's going to manage the team, who's going to run
Speaker 1: the team, is the team going to be sold? So
Speaker 1: it's probably a frustrating time for the players right now.
Speaker 1: But I guarantee they all say they try to block
Speaker 1: it out, but you still it creeps in your head
Speaker 1: once in a while.
Speaker 4: It has to, it has to. Here's the problem with
Speaker 4: what the Padres have going on here. They have a
Speaker 4: tough division. The NL West is no joke now. I mean,
Speaker 4: the Dodgers have a four hundred million dollars payroll, right,
Speaker 4: The Diamondbacks are a lot better, The Giants have gotten better. Well,
Speaker 4: I mean the Rockies don't really count. But the Padres
Speaker 4: are in a tough spot. I know they almost took
Speaker 4: out the Dodgers last year, but every other team in
Speaker 4: the West is improving and the Padres, because of this situation,
Speaker 4: have had to stand still. How do they hang in
Speaker 4: this division?
Speaker 1: Well, I think the Padres have to look at the
Speaker 1: farm system. I mean, last year. If Profar didn't do
Speaker 1: what he did, the Padres wouldn't have been doing as
Speaker 1: good as they once were. And then Jackson Marrow came
Speaker 1: up and did really well, and then AJ made a
Speaker 1: couple of trades during the season, so it it it
Speaker 1: worked out pretty well. But I really think Profar was
Speaker 1: kind of the the guy that kind of carried the
Speaker 1: team in April and kind of got the Padres off
Speaker 1: to a hot start and whatnot and kind of carried them.
Speaker 1: I mean, he fell off a little bit towards the end,
Speaker 1: but he had an incredible season that nobody saw that coming.
Speaker 1: So I think AJ and the Padres are trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, saying, Jason and a couple other guys that hoping,
Speaker 1: you know, they can find lightning in a bottle again.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of what they're they're hoping for. Is
Speaker 1: it gonna work?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: If the season doesn't go well this year, I could
Speaker 1: see a fire sale mid season and and then basically
Speaker 1: back to rebuilding.
Speaker 3: It's the unfortunate part.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Can Jackson Merrill avoid the dreaded sophomore slump where some
Speaker 4: people say sophomore slump? Or is he going to be
Speaker 4: an MVP type of cannon.
Speaker 1: Well, I think he'll be fine. See so normally he's
Speaker 1: a shortstop. He's playing center field. He kind of learned
Speaker 1: it last year and now he's probably really trying to
Speaker 1: embrace how to be a center fielder. So, you know,
Speaker 1: I think he'll be fine. I just I don't think
Speaker 1: he's gonna do what Tatis did kind of you know,
Speaker 1: do some you know, nose cream or whatever he did
Speaker 1: his sophomore or third year. So it's but I think
Speaker 1: Jackson Merril will be fine. I don't think he'll have
Speaker 1: a slump. You know. I think when you traged positions,
Speaker 1: you kind of really focus on that and you don't
Speaker 1: you don't ever feel really comfortable at that position. After
Speaker 1: two or three years go by, then you start feeling comfortable.
Speaker 1: So I think Jackson will be fine this year. I
Speaker 1: think he'll kind of slidisfy himself as one of the
Speaker 1: best centerfielders and young talent in the game today.
Speaker 4: You know about good bullpens in San Diego. Is this
Speaker 4: bullpen going to be able to do the same thing,
Speaker 4: essentially carry this team's pitching after Cease and Kinger, you
Speaker 4: don't know what you're gonna get from you, Darvis. You
Speaker 4: don't know what you're gonna get from Waldron mus Groves out.
Speaker 4: So there's gonna be more innings that they had to
Speaker 4: pick up. But they were one of the best in
Speaker 4: the league and kept the offense who didn't do anything
Speaker 4: in the last two games and kept them in the
Speaker 4: games and could have gotten them to gotten them too,
Speaker 4: you know, the NLCS.
Speaker 1: Well, I think traditionally San Diego has always done really
Speaker 1: well in the bullpen. They always find guys that nobody
Speaker 1: else wants or nobody is going to do well. You know.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, Matt Suey did not as well
Speaker 1: as I think he should have done, and I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna step it up this year. And there's a
Speaker 1: couple other guys like Adam I think is going to
Speaker 1: do a.
Speaker 3: Better year, have a better year this year.
Speaker 1: And it's you know, it's just one of those things
Speaker 1: that San Diego traditionally has a really good bullpen. I
Speaker 1: think it's just with Trevor Hoffman still working with the
Speaker 1: team and just going out there and just you know,
Speaker 1: kind of being the unsung hero a little bit besides
Speaker 1: the coaches. You know, you just kind of have that
Speaker 1: veteran Hall of Fame status that are just right here
Speaker 1: that guys always talk to and ask questions, and you
Speaker 1: know what better to you know, talk to about? Then
Speaker 1: you know have Trevor Hoffman just kind of in the wings.
Speaker 1: You know about situations. So I think San Diego be
Speaker 1: finding the bullpen. It doesn't look as sexy as it
Speaker 1: did last year, but I think they'll be fine and
Speaker 1: they'll be in the top five or the top three
Speaker 1: bullpens of the year by the end of the year.
Speaker 2: Here I'm going to combine two fan questions here. So
Speaker 2: one fan says Padres fire sale if they struggle, and
Speaker 2: another fan asked about Bogart's performance to watch I can
Speaker 2: tie him together because Bogart ain't getting traded no matter what.
Speaker 2: So we want to answer both here, like if things
Speaker 2: do go really poorly, who gets dealt because there are
Speaker 2: long term pieces that really aren't tradable based on how
Speaker 2: much money they cost, not that they're bad players. And
Speaker 2: then just what do you think about Bogarts? And obviously
Speaker 2: shifting back to shortstop, Well.
Speaker 1: Bogart's signed to be a shortstop. I mean I didn't
Speaker 1: like the signing when you had Tatis to be a shortstop.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, he made some airs, but you can
Speaker 1: always just work on your defense a little bit better.
Speaker 1: And they went out and got I mean, heck, we got.
Speaker 1: I think everybody in the team except for the pitchers,
Speaker 1: play shortstop. So it's just one of those things that
Speaker 1: I think it was a little strange. But to move
Speaker 1: him to second base just because Kim, you know, Bogart's
Speaker 1: got hurt. And then Kim had an incredible year, but
Speaker 1: he particularly wasn't that great of a player. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was a good, solid, maybe above average major league player,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't outstanding like he was, and they moved him,
Speaker 1: and then what happened again.
Speaker 3: You know, he.
Speaker 1: Fell back to a pretty good shortstop or a middle infielder.
Speaker 1: So I think vo guards will be fine over there.
Speaker 1: You know, he's you know, lost a step, but we
Speaker 1: always do that.
Speaker 3: When we get a little bit older.
Speaker 1: But I think he's got a little fire inun his
Speaker 1: butt to kind of show everybody that he's a shortstop
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be the short stop of the future.
Speaker 1: And I just think when I say fire sale, I say,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just one of those things I think
Speaker 1: swore As might go Cec and King. You know, I
Speaker 1: think mostly pitchers will go and I think that's the
Speaker 1: one thing we kind of lack in the last couple
Speaker 1: of years was starting pitching. We have starting pitching, but
Speaker 1: you know, you Darbus is getting older, Joe Musgrove's not there.
Speaker 1: You know. I do like the Korean guy that we signed,
Speaker 1: well not he's not from Korea, Heart Kevin Hart or
Speaker 1: Kyle Hart.
Speaker 2: Kle Hart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I like him because he's a pitcher and
Speaker 1: there's not many pitchers out out there, but he just
Speaker 1: got to He's one of those guys. He's got to
Speaker 1: keep the ball down. If he keeps the ball down,
Speaker 1: he's going to do really well. But when I say
Speaker 1: fire sale, I mean all the trade rumors they were
Speaker 1: talking just recently. It wasn't like in the mid season.
Speaker 1: It was kind of like leading up to spring training,
Speaker 1: what is ag going to do? Are they going to
Speaker 1: trade this guy? Or because he fortunately can't sign these guys,
Speaker 1: so you know, if people are willing to give some
Speaker 1: prospects or whatnot. But my biggest thing with the Padres
Speaker 1: is they need to start building with what they have
Speaker 1: within and start stop going out and trying to get
Speaker 1: the best prospects around the league. You know, they need
Speaker 1: to draft and develop guys and keep them and bring
Speaker 1: them to the big leagues and let them, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of like a Jackson Merrow help them help them
Speaker 1: in the big league level. You can't always find a
Speaker 1: Tatis from somebody else was the White Sox and then
Speaker 1: have him be the star of the team. So and
Speaker 1: then it doesn't work. Even the Yankees haven't done it.
Speaker 1: You know, they tried for many years when they went
Speaker 1: out and signed to every everybody, but you can't do
Speaker 1: it for years and years out, especially especially when you
Speaker 1: have an ownership issue going on this season. So it's
Speaker 1: that's kind of where the fire sale. I don't predict
Speaker 1: them to have a fire sale, but you know, just
Speaker 1: to looking on the outside in if they don't do well,
Speaker 1: who knows what Aj is going to do. And you know,
Speaker 1: he's gone through so many coaches and so many different situations.
Speaker 1: When he first got here, you know, he went and
Speaker 1: got a bunch of veterans, then he went young, and
Speaker 1: then he's traded off so many prospects.
Speaker 3: So you just don't know what's going to happen.
Speaker 4: Let's say they have success, Let's say they continue to
Speaker 4: have success, how many years of success do they need
Speaker 4: to have to make it a Dodgers Padres rivalry instead
Speaker 4: of a Dodger's Giants rivalry. I know their rivals now
Speaker 4: and there was a Kershall crying emoji stuff, but it's
Speaker 4: still not is it still not up to the level
Speaker 4: of the Giants Dodgers' rivalry.
Speaker 1: The Padres have to win a World Series, playing and simple.
Speaker 1: You got to go out and win a World Series
Speaker 1: and kind of the Giants, because the Giants in early
Speaker 1: what twenty tens started winning every other year for like
Speaker 1: three times in a row. The Gant the Dodgers have
Speaker 1: won the last couple of years, they're always in the hunt.
Speaker 1: So until the Padres can consistently beat the Dodgers and
Speaker 1: get to the World Series and win the World Series,
Speaker 1: I don't think the rivalry be It's gonna be kind
Speaker 1: of like a backyard rivalry, but it's not that you know,
Speaker 1: big college rivalry. Maybe the high school rival of you know,
Speaker 1: your local high school or something, but it's not that
Speaker 1: big division ie rival like the Giants and the Dodgers.
Speaker 1: So you know, the Padres have to go out there
Speaker 1: and win a World series to I would say, win
Speaker 1: one or two in the next five years to kind
Speaker 1: of make it, you know, a Dodgers you know, Padres
Speaker 1: rivalry right now. It's kind of like that little brother
Speaker 1: big brother rivalry that you kind of know the big
Speaker 1: brother the Dodgers are gonna win, but sometimes the little
Speaker 1: brother does. It's kind of like you guys remember the
Speaker 1: movie The Little Giants, the Little football movie back day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like Little Giants are the Padres.
Speaker 1: We can win, but until we like go and beat
Speaker 1: him consistently year in a year out, I don't see
Speaker 1: it being a rival. They have to win a world series.
Speaker 4: Wow. Big news there, big news. You know we're talking
Speaker 4: about all this news. We're talking about all these player moves.
Speaker 4: You know we haven't mentioned. The biggest move the Padres
Speaker 4: made this entire offseason was announced a couple of days ago.
Speaker 3: Do you know what that was?
Speaker 4: He our old guy no don Orsillo signed a like
Speaker 4: ten year lifetime contract to be don Diego and finish
Speaker 4: out his career as a San Diego Padres. So, I mean,
Speaker 4: the fans in San Diego love him. Him and Mudter
Speaker 4: one of the most entertaining watches on TV. So I
Speaker 4: just want to say, while we have you and we're
Speaker 4: talking Padres, congratulations to don Orsilo well deserved.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a great guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, just watching those guys are and listening to
Speaker 1: those guys, it's it's fun to watch.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like back in the day.
Speaker 1: It's not I don't think it's his I think Harry
Speaker 1: Carey is one of the best ever. But they're in
Speaker 1: then definitely in the top five of that category. So
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's some announcers out there that are
Speaker 1: really good that unfortunately I just don't like listening to
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. I'm not going to name any names,
Speaker 1: but they're just kind of like it's just I don't
Speaker 1: I don't want, I don't want to listen to them
Speaker 1: because they're just boring.
Speaker 3: But you know, you got to have something.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, I'm with you. I'm this My
Speaker 2: thoughts are the same exact. There are some out there
Speaker 2: that are boring that sound like when you know, sound
Speaker 2: like listening to the ball in the seventies or eighties,
Speaker 2: and nothing has changed and it's just not fun enough.
Speaker 2: And I too, will not say their names on this show.
Speaker 2: I will say them to people when I'm not on
Speaker 2: a show because you're feeling because I was in that
Speaker 2: fraternity once and I actually didn't care if people said
Speaker 2: they didn't like me because they took a different style.
Speaker 2: But I'm with you. There's there's some great, there's some good,
Speaker 2: and there's some boring. So Don is a star. I'm
Speaker 2: with you, man, Dude, You're great. It was great having
Speaker 2: you on a lot of people listening right now are
Speaker 2: like Heath knows Friar current Ball, Like you know these guys.
Speaker 2: You're watching the game, so excited to hear more of
Speaker 2: you and Kyle Glazer. Obviously Mike Cameron part of that
Speaker 2: show too. But you can listen to Heath go get
Speaker 2: some Friar Territory action. If you're a Padres fan and
Speaker 2: you're looking for real talk on the pods, Heath, you
Speaker 2: having fun with it. I mean you you're watching the games, dude,
Speaker 2: you know this team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm enjoying. I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 1: You know. I stepped away from the game to kind
Speaker 1: of raise my kids. They're kind of older now, you know,
Speaker 1: they're my last one is fifteen. The rest of them
Speaker 1: are out of high school and college, and I'm really
Speaker 1: trying to get back in the game. But I've never
Speaker 1: the love for the game and watching the game has
Speaker 1: never changed. I mean, there's so many guys that retire
Speaker 1: that stop watching baseball, and I just think that's funny.
Speaker 1: I Mean, we play this game our whole lives, and
Speaker 1: then you know, somebody tells us we can't play because
Speaker 1: we're too old, and then all of a sudden, we
Speaker 1: just never want to watch the game. I mean, I
Speaker 1: go to baseball games all the time. I'll go to
Speaker 1: myeror league games. I go to ice, some high school games,
Speaker 1: and some college game. So I just like being around
Speaker 1: the game. And you know, the Padres are the Padres
Speaker 1: and Mets are kind of my two teams that I
Speaker 1: you know, the Mets gave him an opportunity in the
Speaker 1: minor leagues and got to the big leagues. But then
Speaker 1: I really kind of blossomed with San Diego, and so
Speaker 1: those are my two teams at heart, and I just
Speaker 1: I really follow them a lot, and you know, it's
Speaker 1: just I'm I would love to coach for one of them,
Speaker 1: especially San Diego, you know, or do something with them.
Speaker 1: But you know, talking about baseball, Heck, my wife never
Speaker 1: wants to bring that up because I'll just talk all
Speaker 1: day long. So and she's like, how do you know
Speaker 1: these things? And I'm like, I don't know, because maybe
Speaker 1: I played and I pay attention, So who knows?
Speaker 3: All right? Real quick?
Speaker 4: Last one one of the conversations we had here was
Speaker 4: Ryan Helsley was coming out the Hell's Bells. Is that
Speaker 4: fair because you played with hoff and you have the
Speaker 4: last name obviously to be able to play that song.
Speaker 4: Can anybody else use his song? And are saying, man, here, here,
Speaker 4: here's the thing. If you enjoy baseball and you respect
Speaker 4: the game, Hell, no, you cannot use his song.
Speaker 3: I even have the name.
Speaker 1: And I was in Triple A and they put it
Speaker 1: out for me, and then I came in after the game.
Speaker 1: I was like, don't ever use that song again. That's
Speaker 1: Trevor Hoffmann's song. And I was with the Mets organization
Speaker 1: of the time, even though it kind of fits with
Speaker 1: me in my last name, I said, I gotta find
Speaker 1: a song that fits me. I can't take somebody's song.
Speaker 1: So you can't. You can't take Inner Sandman or Hell's Bells.
Speaker 1: Those are like tradition. You get, you gotta you just
Speaker 1: you hold those guys on a pedestal Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: If you're a Hall of Famer and you want to
Speaker 1: use it, go ahead, But honestly, you that's just disrespectful
Speaker 1: to those guys. I really believe in the game of baseball.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say no on that aspect.
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go like it. Plus, there are a
Speaker 2: few other songs from a few other songs, a few
Speaker 2: other No, my thing is.
Speaker 3: Is just not even.
Speaker 4: It's just one of those things like those guys are
Speaker 4: the best of all time, right yea, and everyone knows
Speaker 4: them with their songs, so that's them. Like, figure it out.
Speaker 4: There's a million songs with hell in it, bel in it,
Speaker 4: this and that and whatever you want.
Speaker 3: I mean, figure it out you.
Speaker 2: Yep, exactly. Heath great to have you on, man, appreciate
Speaker 2: the time. We'll see on friar.
Speaker 3: Thanks enjoy watching you guys. Take care,