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Speaker 1: Oh, what is going on?

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Speaker 2: I hope you're early Friday morning festivities or grand hope

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Speaker 2: everything's going well.

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Speaker 1: I want to get to in a few minutes. It

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Speaker 1: was a very.

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Speaker 2: Popular opinion a few months ago, and it's turned out

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Speaker 2: to be completely wrong.

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Speaker 1: A lot of.

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Speaker 2: People were saying this over and over and over. Popular

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Speaker 2: opinion has been completely wrong. I'll give you that just

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Speaker 2: a couple of minutes here, But I want to start off.

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Speaker 2: We got another sex toy on the court of a

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Speaker 2: WNBA game. Now, this is the fourth sex toy that

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Speaker 2: has reached the court of a WNBA game. Now, there

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Speaker 2: are a couple of layers here. I didn't realize what

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Speaker 2: was going on. I'm like, wait a minute. So over

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Speaker 2: the last week and a half, there have been four

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Speaker 2: sex toys that have been thrown onto a WNBA court

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Speaker 2: during the game. Okay, what I didn't realize was all

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Speaker 2: of the sex toys that were thrown at WNBA games

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Speaker 2: that didn't reach the court. Because I'm looking at this

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, I'm looking at all this information.

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Speaker 2: It's just all kinds of stuff. I'm not gonna bombard

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Speaker 2: you with all of these things, but a couple of

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Speaker 2: them are kind of interesting, as best I can tell,

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Speaker 2: And I tried to research this as best I can.

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Speaker 1: It's it's tough.

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Speaker 2: It's like you ever see a beautiful mind where Russell

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Speaker 2: Crowe is kind of losing his mind and he's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: this connects to that and this means this, And that's

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Speaker 2: how I was trying to figure out the timeline of

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Speaker 2: the sex toys being thrown on WNBA courts. This is

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Speaker 2: the best I can tell. So I believe this started

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Speaker 2: back on July twenty ninth, so a little more than

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Speaker 2: a week ago. It was Tuesday to twenty ninth. It

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Speaker 2: was the Valkyries and the Dream. There was a man

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Speaker 2: that was arrested, Delbert Carver, twenty three years old, threw

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Speaker 2: a sex toy on the court. Now he was arrested

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Speaker 2: and charged with get this, those in all these charges

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Speaker 2: disorderly conduct, public in indecency, slash, indecent exposure, and criminal trespass.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm no lawyer, I don't know, if you know

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Speaker 2: he's found guilty all across the board what that means.

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Speaker 2: But that's a lot of stuff to be charged with.

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Speaker 2: I know that much, and so I'm piecing this together. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it happened a couple of nights later, Friday, August first,

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Speaker 2: Valkyri's Chicago Sky Game.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: Then I'm like, wait a minute, something's weird with August fifth.

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Speaker 2: So this is Tuesday, August fifth, one week after the

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Speaker 2: first sex toy was thrown on the court. Okay, and

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Speaker 2: so I'm reading this story about an eighteen year old

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Speaker 2: who was arrested. He tried to throw a dildo on

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Speaker 2: the court. Didn't make it, you know, didn't reach the court.

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Speaker 2: It hit like an uncle and the niece, like a

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Speaker 2: nine year old niece or something like at these two people.

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Speaker 2: It didn't make it onto the court. This guy was tackled,

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Speaker 2: you know, he was arrested, the whole thing. And he

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Speaker 2: said the eighteen year old, this guy named Caden Lopez,

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Speaker 2: he told officers. He was like, it's just a stupid

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Speaker 2: He apologized that I'm sorry, I was just following this

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Speaker 2: stupid prank. That's what it is, like, go back to

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Speaker 2: when you were eighteen. Now, I wasn't like dildo thrown

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Speaker 1: When I was eighteen, but it's pretty freaking stupid.

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Speaker 2: And if there was something that, oh, it's just the

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Speaker 2: oh cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's like there's plenty of things I've done at eighteen

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Speaker 2: years old that were completely dumb, and looking back.

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Speaker 1: Like, what the hell was I thinking? That's what's happening here?

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Speaker 2: But that happened at a Connecticut Son Phoenix Mercury game.

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Speaker 2: All right, wait a minute, didn't That same night there

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Speaker 2: was a sex toy that hit Sophie Cunningham of the

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Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute.

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Speaker 2: On that same night, August fifth, there was another sex

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Speaker 2: toy thrown at the Wings Liberty game, and that sex

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Speaker 2: toy didn't reach the court. So on the same night

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Speaker 2: there were three different games. I didn't realize any of this.

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Speaker 2: I'm piecing it together, like, wait, okay, we got the

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Speaker 2: section of this is the fourth sex toy that has

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I didn't realize all all this stuff

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Speaker 2: is stupid and dangerous. It hits Sophie Cunningham. It could

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Speaker 2: have been way worse that the trend like the fun

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Speaker 2: is over. At least that's how I see it. Maybe

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Speaker 2: you look at the first one like oh wow that,

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Speaker 2: or it hits Sophie Cunningham and you're like, wow, that's

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Speaker 2: kind of a coincidence. She put it out there on

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Speaker 2: X like stop doing this, and then she's the one

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Speaker 1: This is dumb. It's played out. It's not even like

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Speaker 1: oh wow, Like.

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Speaker 2: The whole shock value of it is worn off, like

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Speaker 2: the betting aspect of you could bet.

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Speaker 1: On the color of the next one to reach the court.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: To me, the whole thing is just like what are

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Speaker 2: Like this is the equivalent of well, I don't even know.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to make it the exact same thing,

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Speaker 2: but you know, when something gets played out where it

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Speaker 2: was cool for a month for someone to say, Oh,

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Speaker 2: he's all that and a bag of ship, and then

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Speaker 2: someone said it like months later that it was a

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Speaker 2: completely outdated No, we're not doing that anymore. Man's It's

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Speaker 2: like someone shows up to the party now and dabs

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Speaker 2: and you're like, Wow, dude, that's that way, or no, man,

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Speaker 2: that's not the thing.

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Speaker 1: That's where I'm at with this whole thing. It's wow.

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Speaker 2: It's time to turn the page on this one. But

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Speaker 2: does that not blow your mind? I didn't know that.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: On Tuesday, just a couple of nights ago, three different games,

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Speaker 2: sex toys are just being thrown around from the crowd

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Speaker 2: trying to make it onto the court. They might just

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Speaker 2: hit someone upside the head and not make it to

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Speaker 2: the court. By the way, I'll turn the page on

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Speaker 2: all this. I just had a flashback, so I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you a brief story. This has nothing to do with

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Speaker 2: sex toys being thrown at games, but it reminded me

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Speaker 2: of one game I was at a famous game and

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Speaker 2: something else was thrown and it didn't quite make the field.

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Speaker 1: But so what I would do?

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Speaker 2: So I'm from South Bend, Indiana and way back in

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Speaker 2: what was it five? I was part of the Notre

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Speaker 2: Dame pregame show. And what was awesome about that is

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Speaker 2: they would give you a pass. You could go up

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Speaker 2: could actually go down to the field for the final

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Speaker 2: five minutes of the game. Really cool, right, And I

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Speaker 2: went to the Bush Push game. There's USC at Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: Famous game. And so this is gonna sound like first

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Speaker 2: world problems, but I actually hated being in the press

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Speaker 2: It's a quote unquote working environment. You can't er, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like, I'm a lifelong Notre Dame fan.

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame scores a touchdown against number one ranked USC,

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Speaker 2: and I'm just supposed to sit on my hands.

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Speaker 1: And be like, oh, that was a good play.

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Speaker 1: I'm not built like, I can't do that. I can't.

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Speaker 2: So what I would do throughout that season, I would

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Speaker 2: where the Eagles nest, you know, and have this bird's

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Speaker 2: eye view of the entire stadium. You can feel the crowd.

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Speaker 2: You could cheer if you wanted to. I'm like, this

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Speaker 2: is the spot. So for that USC game, it was packed,

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Speaker 2: Like everybody's on top of the press box and you're not.

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Speaker 2: It's like there's a ledge in front of you. It's

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Speaker 2: you know, it's almost like kind of like a treehouse

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Speaker 2: not like we're just standing on a slab of metal

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Speaker 2: kind of like enclosed, right, But it was packed. I

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Speaker 2: way too many people up there. They're trying to film

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Speaker 2: the game, and all these people are up there from nowhere,

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Speaker 2: but I wedged my way in. I'm watching the game

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Speaker 2: on top of the breast box and I don't know why.

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Speaker 2: There was a touchdown score Notre Dame scored a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: The crowd's going crazy, and for whatever reason, something just

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Speaker 2: I'm watching it just soar through the air, just majestically

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh.

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Speaker 2: Man, what you got those people at games? Man, these people,

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Speaker 2: it's a good idea, you know, but sorry, the the

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Speaker 2: the dildo's being thrown at w NBA games and not

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Speaker 2: quite reaching the cord. I had a flashback with the

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Speaker 2: Bush push game. You know, you never know who's listening.

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Speaker 2: It's the famous line with radio.

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Speaker 1: It's so true.

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Speaker 2: I've had so many times throughout the years where something

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Speaker 1: Really another real cool story.

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Speaker 2: So I do a show on Sundays, it's called Countdown

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Speaker 2: and one of the guys on the show, it's it's

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Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz, former NFL player, and it's Bill Krackenberger. He's

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Speaker 2: a professional sports handicapper and crack is here in Vegas

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Speaker 2: and it was a couple of weeks ago, he sent

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Speaker 2: I met Frank Caliendo.

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Speaker 1: I met him.

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Speaker 2: We ate some pizza. You know, I was out, he

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Speaker 2: was out. We're like, hey, you want to hang out.

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Speaker 2: He's like, he listens to the show on Sunday. I

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Speaker 2: guess he's got this whole routine he I don't know.

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Speaker 2: He he does like some sort of physical therapy, or

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Speaker 2: he gets in a pool and early on a Sunday

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Speaker 2: morning and he listens to the show. It's like, oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh, that's awesome. Frank caley Endo is hilarious. I

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Speaker 2: love that guy. You never know who's listening in radio.

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Speaker 2: I would not be shocked at all if either the

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Speaker 2: It was a very popular opinion just a few months ago,

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Speaker 2: So, when Shador Sanders was about to get drafted and

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Speaker 2: That's what a lot of people were saying. Has Deon

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Speaker 2: If anyone thought like that, they are pathetic as an

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Speaker 2: Controversy is all over the place, Negativity is all over

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Speaker 2: A lot of people are saying a lot of stupid

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Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. You don't have to like him.

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Speaker 2: But you can't sound like a moron just because you

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Speaker 2: And my next thought was, can you imagine if all

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Speaker 2: you realize what people would be saying? They'd be like,

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Speaker 1: Why you're worried about the draft? Yahda YadA.

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Speaker 2: There'd be so many people coming out of the woodwork

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Speaker 1: Just check yourself right again.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to like him, but be careful of,

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Speaker 1: That's all I would say. And then we get out

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Speaker 7: But I wanted to talk about Mike Brabel. This Mike

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Speaker 6: It's total It's total lunacy.

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Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Brian. It doesn't fit into

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Speaker 7: college sports. The coaches used to act like that.

438
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Speaker 6: Back then.

439
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 7: They would do everything that you would use, every slur

440
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 7: in the book in the locker room. You know, nobody

441
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 7: really scrutinize you the coaches that much back then. That

442
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 7: is not a modern day coach right now. And he's

443
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 7: like walking a fine line of being like a social

444
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 7: media star in like a hardcore old school NFL coach.

445
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 7: But he's not Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick would have never

446
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 7: done that. That's what I want to point out. Bill

447
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 7: Belichick would have never jumped in the pile like that.

448
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 6: Like what is that? You know? You know?

449
00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 2: Listen, blind Scott, I love you, and you do you

450
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 2: make a great argument, and I see it completely differently.

451
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: But I love your argument.

452
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's the best funniest thing about sports radio.

453
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 2: I love a good argument, and you made a great argument.

454
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 2: I see it totally differently. But that's the thing, Like

455
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,239
Speaker 2: a lot of people think that I want them to

456
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 2: agree with me, don't. I don't rage against someone seeing

457
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: it differently. I rage against a bad argument. It might

458
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 2: be an argument on my side, you know, like we

459
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 2: both think I don't know. Let's say that we both

460
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 2: think the Chiefs are gonna win the Super Bowl this season.

461
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 2: I don't know, And your reasoning is, oh, yeah, because

462
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, just something stupid, like you know, they're

463
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 2: they're gonna throw you know, Mahomes is gonna throw twenty

464
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: five touchdowns on deep balls this season.

465
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Speaker 1: That's It's like, that's.

466
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: A horrible argument, even though we both think that the

467
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 2: Chiefs are gonna win the super Bowl. I completely disagree

468
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 2: with your reasoning. So it's all about the argument. To me,

469
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 2: it's not about which side you're on. But listen, blind

470
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: Scott made a great argument. I'll say real fast why

471
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: I don't agree with it. The reason I do not

472
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: agree with it is that you're trying to establish a culture,

473
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: and you're trying. What Rabel's going for is a tough

474
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 2: a culture of toughness, and I think that serves an

475
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: NFL team very very well. I mean this idea that

476
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: what uh, that was just a social media thing.

477
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 1: It's just for the media. That's that's not true.

478
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 2: You wouldn't have players come right out in full support

479
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 2: of this.

480
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 1: This is your quarterback, Drake May.

481
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: Here's what he said about Vrabel getting into a skirmish

482
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Speaker 2: the other day at practice.

483
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Speaker 4: That's what we're trying to build, I think. And it

484
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 4: starts with the coach. Starts with the head coach. The intensity,

485
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 4: bringing it every day, you know, taking no crap and

486
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 4: you know when we're out there on the field. But

487
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 4: also it comes to a time where our guys offensively

488
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 4: and get over there and get some tussles and kind

489
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 4: of have some penalties and extra after the whistle, you

490
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 4: can get us some trouble. But for mentality, I like it.

491
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Speaker 4: I think that's what you want. I mean, I almost

492
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Speaker 4: got in there, but I think maybe no, maybe.

493
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Speaker 1: So I'm here to tell you that is not fake whatsoever.

494
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 2: Rabel knows what he's doing getting in there and you know,

495
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 2: showing that type of toughness or at least willingness to

496
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: put your nose in there is Players love that stuff.

497
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 2: It's not like they all rolled their eyes in like oh,

498
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: that was clearly for the media. That was just for

499
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: social media clicks. That wasn't their reaction at all. This

500
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: was Mario Davis, the wide receiver. This is more funny

501
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 2: than anything I say.

502
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Speaker 1: You should have seen the other guy. I loved it,

503
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: But to me, I get the counter argument.

504
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Speaker 2: I do, and a guy that I really respect who

505
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 2: had a lot of success in the NFL, Tony Dungeee,

506
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 2: Tony Dungee would agree with what blind Scott said there

507
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: completely and Tony Dungee his approach was exactly what blind

508
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: Scott talked about in Colts training camp. No fights, we're

509
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: not you know, we're not getting penalties here. We're not

510
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 2: doing in the regular season. We're not doing it in

511
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: training camp, we're not doing it in practice, preseason games.

512
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 2: There's no place for it here. And it served them well.

513
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: That was a good approach for them. I don't think

514
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: that applies to everybody. You can a lot of different

515
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 2: ways to approach these things. And for the Patriots who

516
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: only won four games, who've been kicked.

517
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: Around for a long time now.

518
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: It's been a long time since Brady and Belichick won

519
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: the last Super Bowl, and there have been some lean

520
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 2: years in between that year in these last handful of years,

521
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 2: so you're trying to establish a new culture, toughness, you know,

522
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: all of that stuff.

523
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: And I also think this too. I think that.

524
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Speaker 2: It's easier, say in the in preseason or training camp,

525
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 2: or this was a joint practice with the Washington Commanders. Okay,

526
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 2: I think it's easier if you step over the line. Right,

527
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 2: there's a skirmish there, there's a fight. You're not going

528
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: to do that in the regular season. It would be

529
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: a penalty. I think it's easier if you step over

530
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: the line in training camp to dial it back when

531
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 2: the real games roll around. I think it's easier to

532
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 2: dial it back than it is to crank it up.

533
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: I actually I would rather have my team step over

534
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: the line from time to time. Maybe there's a fight

535
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: here that maybe there's a late hit, maybe there's a

536
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 2: coach that jumps into a dog pile, what have you.

537
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: I think it's easier to dial it back than it

538
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 2: is to crank it up.

539
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: I'll say it this way. My Dolphins. I love the Dolphins,

540
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: but they're too pretty.

541
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Speaker 2: I would love it if Mike McDaniel jumped into a

542
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: pile that's never going to happen. I would love it.

543
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 2: I would love it if there was a fight in practice.

544
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 2: And some might hear this and look at it and

545
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: be like, what are you talking about. No, for this example,

546
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 2: it's case by case. But for the Dolphins, the problem

547
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: with them is they're way too pretty. They're way too pretty.

548
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: They play a pretty style of football. They thrown it

549
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 2: all over the place. They've gotten pushed around in the

550
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: trenches for years, completely pushed around.

551
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 1: I would love to.

552
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 2: See more edge, more toughness, even a little bit of stupidity.

553
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: Like you could make an argument that it's stupid to

554
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 2: get into a fight or do something after the whistle.

555
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: You're just costing your team. You could say all those things.

556
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 2: I don't think it applies all across the board to

557
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: every single team. A team like the Dolphins who's gotten

558
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: pushed around in the trenches that plays this pretty style

559
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 2: of football, and if it's ninety degrees out and you're

560
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: at home, like they could look really really good. But

561
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: if it's a cold, nasty game, you're not able to

562
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: throw it around all the time. That the conditions aren't

563
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: made for it. It's like you gotta be able to

564
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: push people around you gotta be able to knock them

565
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: off the ball, run the ball down their throat, stop

566
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: the run. You gotta be tough, and the Dolphins just

567
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: aren't tough enough. I would love for them to do

568
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: something like that and to show more edge. So I

569
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: totally disagree with blind Scott, and he gave a great argument.

570
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people that will agree with

571
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: everything that he said. Tony Dungee would be one of

572
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,479
Speaker 2: those people, and he had a lot of success. I

573
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: really respect him. Tony Dungee's one of the greats. But

574
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: I don't think that everybody has to approach it the

575
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: same way. You don't have to be like, Okay, it

576
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: worked for Tony Dungee, I'm gonna do the same thing.

577
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: Or it worked for Belichick, he's not jumping into the

578
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: pile up. That doesn't mean Mike Vrabel doesn't need to

579
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: do that. I think that was one of the things

580
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: where it seemed like Gerard Mayo might have been on

581
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: the right track because he wasn't trying to be Belichick.

582
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: It didn't work out, But how many times have we

583
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: seen that we saw who was the Lions head coach

584
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: that was that Matt Patricia was a former defensive coordinator

585
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: and then what was he like the offensive flag caller.

586
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: For a little bit with the Patriots. I couldn't believe that.

587
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 3: You know.

588
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: One of my buddies said, I'm a Patriots fan. I'm sorry,

589
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: but I have to just side note. A couple of

590
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: years ago, I'm like, hey, who's gonna be your offensive coordinator?

591
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: And he said to me, I think it's gonna be

592
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: Matt Patricia.

593
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 1: Actual.

594
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: I was like, what what the defensive coordinator's calling?

595
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: You can't be serious, And sure enough it was.

596
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: But anyway, Matt Patricia when he was with the Lions,

597
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: he tried to be Belichick. He tried to check all

598
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: of his players, be this hard ass. He didn't have

599
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: the credentials. No one took him seriously. So I think

600
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: you can run into a lot of problems trying to

601
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: be just like Belichick. So I don't buy something, oh,

602
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: this is different than what Belichick would do. In some

603
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: ways good because you're not him. Mike Vrabel is not Belichick.

604
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: And even though Belichick is not jumping into a pile up,

605
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: that's fine if Mike Vrabel wants to.

606
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: I think it works. I think it's This team gained.

607
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: More respect for him for doing that than lost respect

608
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: for him doing that. And here's the thing, man, You

609
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: get these training camp fights, these joint joint practice skirmishes,

610
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: all this stuff. When do you really see that carry

611
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: over to the regular season.

612
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: I mean outside of the.

613
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: Raiders back in the day when they are literally getting

614
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: the fights all the time. But do you see this

615
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: commonly in this day and age. We're not talking way

616
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: back in the day when the rules are different, the

617
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: way the game is officiating is officiated is different.

618
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: We're talking now.

619
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: When do you see a team that gets into a

620
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: training camp fight, joint practice FI When do you see

621
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: that just be a common theme and plague them all

622
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: season long?

623
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: You don't. You don't see that.

624
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: So I don't look at that as, oh, this is

625
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: ridiculous as a silly approach by Verbel. I personally loved it,

626
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: and I think for it that just won four games

627
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: last season to build some toughness edge.

628
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of good that comes with that.

629
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: And I just don't think the stupidity of maybe doing

630
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: something after the whistle is going to carry over to

631
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: the regular season and you're going to see the Patriots

632
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: be plagued by this, I just don't buy it. I

633
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: think it's easier to dial it back than crank it up.

634
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: I'll put it this way. Say you go to the gym,

635
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: I see like some sort of fat burner commercial on maybe.

636
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: So say you go to the gym, you typically do

637
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: a hard workout for an hour, all right? Which is easier?

638
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: Is it the next day to do a harder workout

639
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: for an hour and a half, or is it easier

640
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: to do a thirty minute workout where you go hard.

641
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: It's easier to scale back, to dial it back than

642
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,959
Speaker 2: it is to crank it up. So for these teams

643
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 2: like the Patriots and Mike Rabel jumping into a.

644
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: A skirmish right there.

645
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: It's easier for a team that maybe goes over the

646
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,479
Speaker 2: line in training camp to dial it back and not

647
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: do that in the regular season.

648
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: Then it is for a team.

649
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: That doesn't show edge, doesn't show toughness in the in

650
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: training camp, and then I just got to crank it

651
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: up come the regular season. It's tougher to do that.

652
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: So I don't have an issue with it at all.

653
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: I don't I'm actually on board with it.

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 2: I like that Mike Vrabel jumped in there and was bloodied,

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Speaker 2: and I love that stuff. Man, I don't have an

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Speaker 2: issue with it at all. But hey, shout out to

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Speaker 2: blind Scott. I thought he made a great argument on

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Speaker 2: the complete opposite side, and.

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Speaker 1: I respect him for that. I love that. I love

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Speaker 1: a good debate.

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Speaker 2: I love someone that brings a great argument on the

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Speaker 2: complete opposite side. I embraced that completely and shout out

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Speaker 2: to him.

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Speaker 1: I thought I did a great job. I love that.

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 2: Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox is your number.

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Speaker 2: You want to check, feel free to do so. We'll

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Speaker 2: get to eventually the biggest curveball of the NFL season.

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Speaker 1: What is it gonna be?

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Speaker 2: We got to compare notes on that. I have some

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Speaker 2: thoughts for you as far as that goes. Coming up

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Speaker 2: pretty soon. I'm Brian noo In for big Ben Maler.

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Speaker 2: Keep it locked right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian no In for big Ben Maler here on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Top of the Hour.

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Speaker 2: We're looking for the biggest curveball in the NFL this season,

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Speaker 2: And think about it this way. The odds are going

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Speaker 2: to be long that any of these things happen, right.

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Speaker 2: That's why we're trying to find the biggest surprise of

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Speaker 2: the entire NFL season team wise, what team is gonna

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Speaker 2: shock us the most good or bad?

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Speaker 1: And so a lot of the teams.

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Speaker 2: On the list, you're gonna be like, that's pretty unlikely

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Speaker 2: that the Eagles are the biggest bad surprise, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean. But you just want to open your

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Speaker 2: mind up. We'll do this at the top of the hour.

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Speaker 2: I just want to open your mind up to the

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Speaker 2: possibility that this happens, right, And so we'll compare notes

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Speaker 2: as far as that goes.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to that.

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Speaker 2: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox is your phone

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Speaker 2: number if you want to check in, we'll get right

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Speaker 2: to you. Also on X at the no shows, where

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Speaker 2: you can find me if you want to tweet at me.

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Speaker 2: I just saw an interesting tweet where I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I can find it on time, but I think

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Speaker 2: it's Bill. Bill was like, why in the hell would

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Speaker 2: you use no noe for radio?

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Speaker 1: You know it's no.

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Speaker 2: kN ow, no no O. You know then my spelling Noe's.

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Speaker 1: Like too hard to find you. What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Call it the Yes Show.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was a funny tweet, So I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Bill, go out to Hollerin James. He's

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Speaker 2: with us this morning. What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Hollow In James?

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Speaker 6: Howard James is called back so many times. He's upset too,

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Speaker 6: just like the Vikings, not upset, upset the NFL by

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Speaker 6: taking the championship game and the NFC conferdence.

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Speaker 1: So wait a minute, hollow In James, I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: You're calling your shot that the Vikings are going to

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 6: Is that?

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Speaker 1: What's going on here?

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Speaker 6: I'm making a I'm making a prediction, a strong prediction.

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Speaker 6: The Vikings are really gonna look strong with jaj McCarthy

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Speaker 6: and I would call Bud Graham out on this. Bud

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Speaker 6: Grant deserves this championship for the Minnesota Vikings. He was

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Speaker 6: one of the toughest coaches, that one of the most

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Speaker 6: great cups in the Canadian Football League, but had a

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Speaker 6: hard time when he's a big game for uncertain reasons.

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Speaker 6: They know the right pushed off. I'm on a shot

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Speaker 6: the pushed off on an heir interference call of set

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Speaker 6: where they played the Miami Dolphins way back in the

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Speaker 6: day with Mandy Fernadds and I could date myself because

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Speaker 6: I'm sixty one years old and mean football ever since

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Speaker 6: I was a child.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: About you, Holler and James, that you can date yourself

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Speaker 2: as much as he won.

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Speaker 1: I love the old school football right there.

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Speaker 2: You know, my favorite Bud Grant memory was when he

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Speaker 2: went out for the coin toss. You remember this, Holler

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Speaker 2: and James. They had the freezing cold outside game and

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Speaker 2: he went out for the coin toss in a short

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Speaker 2: sleeve shirt. That was amazing by Bud Grant right there.

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Speaker 1: I love him for that.

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Speaker 6: Bud Grant was one of the toughest Canadian football coaches

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Speaker 6: you ever seed a round and he should have beat

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Speaker 6: Hans Stramp. And it was one of the first great

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Speaker 6: Super Bowls they ever played in with the Kansas City

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Speaker 6: Cheachs when they were called the Chiefs or Kansas City

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Speaker 6: and Hank Stam the Minnesota Likes and they based off

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Speaker 6: in Super Bowl What what super Bowl was that he recalled?

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Speaker 2: It was Super Bowl four And I don't agree with you.

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Speaker 2: They were talking what twenty three to seven. You know,

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Speaker 2: if memory serves the twenty three seven, that's not exactly

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Speaker 2: a close game there, hollow In James.

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Speaker 6: I know it wasn't a close game, and I know

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Speaker 6: you're gonna distribute with me, but don't you think the

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Speaker 6: Minnesota like you were upset because he got cheated out

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Speaker 6: of that game?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: That sounds like some That sounds like some vikings bias

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Speaker 2: right there, holler In James.

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Speaker 1: I like where the Chiefs getting the calls way back?

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Speaker 1: I thought it was just like everybody.

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Speaker 2: Whinds about the Mahomes era and the calls it dates

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Speaker 2: all the way back to the Hank Stram days.

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Speaker 1: They're getting all the favorable calls.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, favor little close because there's been that way ever

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Speaker 6: since the beginning, even in nineteen ninety eight for Garry

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Speaker 6: Anderson Thomas Garry Innerson in the field, Oh yeah, nineteen

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Speaker 6: ninety eight.

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Speaker 1: Holler and James, Man, that was heartbreak city man.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, because he was perfect the whole year,

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Speaker 2: didn't miss a kick until that one terrible.

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Speaker 6: Or the biggest kicking was like, and why did random

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Speaker 6: Kreby have take a knee? And I got that jersey

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Speaker 6: and I got him eighty four Randy wash jersey that

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Speaker 6: play with the New England Patriots after he played with

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Speaker 6: the Raiders. He went to the Raiders first after the

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Speaker 6: Minnesota like. He's drafted them number one. But he went

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Speaker 6: into the Hall of Fame as a Minnesota like. And

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Speaker 6: now Jared Allen is sharing the same ring with Randy Wahson,

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Speaker 6: the same golden jacket.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. No, that's cool that it came full

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Speaker 1: circle like that.

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Speaker 2: But man, you've had your heart broken many times over

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Speaker 2: the years, Holler and James, I feel for you the

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Speaker 2: Brett fav interception over the middle against the Saints. I

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Speaker 2: don't bring up bad memories, but you've had some heartbreak.

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Speaker 2: They've had some heartbreak over the years. Man, But I

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Speaker 2: always loved talking to you. Holler and thank you for

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Speaker 2: the call. Great stuff. I love that you've got passion, don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't care, like you know, if Holler and James

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Speaker 2: was driving on the road, he was on the sidewalk

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Speaker 2: a little bit, you know, he was.

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Speaker 1: He was on top of the guard rail first A.

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Speaker 1: We're just all over, we're in access. You know, I

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Speaker 1: don't care. He's got passion.

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Speaker 2: We're talking Vikings, we're talking Bud Grant, we're talking Haigu Stram.

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Speaker 1: Let's get after it. You know, we just can't wait

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Speaker 1: for football season to get here.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, that's awesome, that is fantastic. Yeah, I want

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Speaker 2: to know the temperature.

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Speaker 1: It was freezing. I don't know why they were outside.

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Speaker 2: There's something going on with the stadium at the time,

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Speaker 2: but the Vikings were hosting the Seahawks outside playoff game,

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Speaker 2: freezing cold. Bud Grant goes out there for the coin

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Speaker 2: toss in a short sleeve like soft collared shirt.

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Speaker 1: Amazing. Biggest curveball the NFL season. Next