1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Hey, this is em This is John, your og Okay 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: story Time podcast hosts, and we got. 3 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 2: Some delicious, juicy stories coming up. 4 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: But if you want to hear that deliciousness, you know, 5 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: just stick around for a two minute break with a 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: word from our sponsors. 7 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 2: My sister in law tried to manipulate my husband and 8 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: turn him against me. Dump them all. 9 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: My significant other and I recently looped. We decided that 10 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: a big wedding like we had been planning was not 11 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: for us, so we looped. My family was fine with 12 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: it from the start. I have a great relationship with them, 13 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: and they understood where I was coming from, offering complete 14 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: acceptance about the elopin. That's great. By the way, this 15 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: comes from Ding Dong Witched and if you want to 16 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: submit your own stories, go to our slash Okay Storytime 17 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,959 Speaker 1: subreate it. So my significant other's family was less accepting, 18 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: especially his mother and twin sister. For years it was 19 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: just the three of them before his mother remarried and 20 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: had a few more children. Because of this, his sister 21 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: and mother are still very dependent on him. They were 22 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: her not because we got married, but because they were 23 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: looking forward to everything that comes with a wedding. This 24 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: is a classic thing about you know, get getting eloped. 25 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: The family is usually not too happy the weekend away 26 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: the pretty dresses us paying for them to stay in 27 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: a nice hotel, fancy food, free drinks. Hopefully this gives 28 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: you a small idea of how selfish and entitled they are. 29 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: This all occurred in the beginning of July, and after 30 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: our quick elopement, we decided to extend are already planned 31 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: European vacation from one week to two weeks, from July 32 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: twenty fifth to August ninth. Initially, we were going to 33 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: board our pug and have a neighbor keep an eye 34 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: on our condo. However, being gone that long, we thought 35 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,279 Speaker 1: it would be best to have someone stay at our place, 36 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: and her sister in law uh oh, Significann others suggested 37 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: she housed it for us. She would be cheaper than 38 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: any option, We could trust her, and she loves her dog, 39 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: so it seemed like the perfect solution. Shortly before our trip, 40 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: Significant informed me that sister in law was thinking of 41 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: moving to our city from hers Springfield to Chicago. Anne 42 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: would be looking for a job while staying in our place, 43 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: hoping to interview while she was up there, not a problem. 44 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: She's been inconsistent with work, and maybe a change of 45 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: scenery from living with her mom is what she needs. 46 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: It was never discussed that she would be staying for 47 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: longer than two weeks or that she needed to the 48 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: day we left, she showed up on the Amtrak with 49 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: three large suitcases. I was already frazzled, so I didn't 50 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: think much of it, thinking wow, and I thought I 51 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: was an overpacker. But in hindsight, that should have been 52 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: my first red flat. 53 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: I see you. 54 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: We left and had a fantastic vacation. We checked in 55 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: a few times and everything was great at home. We 56 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: got home late on the ninth, so we didn't see 57 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: her until the tenth and the day off. But she 58 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: never asked for a ride to Union Station or gave 59 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: any indication that she was returning home. I figured she 60 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: must have arranged it with significant other, so I went 61 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: to bed early without asking significant other what was going on, 62 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 1: went to work as normal on Tuesday, assuming she had left. 63 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: I bet you the sister in law's still there. I 64 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: came home on Tuesday to find her sitting on my couch, 65 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: eating something and watching TV. 66 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: What yep? 67 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: I call it significant other, and he said that she 68 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: needs to stay for a few weeks more weeks. She's 69 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: already been there for two, she needs to stay there 70 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: for weeks more. Uh, dude, she's trying to squat right now, 71 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: and I bet you she's not getting a job. 72 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: Nope. 73 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: She told him that she has a job lead and 74 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: another interview next week. If she doesn't get the job, 75 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: she'll go back to Springfield, but would like to continue 76 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: the job search from our place. I was not happy 77 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: that he gave her permission to stay without speaking to me, 78 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: but he's blind when it comes to his sister and mother, 79 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: so this is something we need to continue to work on. 80 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: I agreed to one more week as long as she 81 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: focuses on the job search. Okay. Fast forward to last weekend, 82 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: August fifteenth. Sister and law has completely taken over my 83 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: condo in this short time. She monopolizes the living room, 84 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: eats all of our food, then complains when there's no 85 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: food left. She tells me that she doesn't want any 86 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: guests using her bathroom aka the guest bathroom when they 87 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: are over. She has brought some guy over to have 88 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: spicy sleep with him and has very loud, spicy sleep 89 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: with him. While significant other and I are trying to 90 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: have dinner. 91 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: She's just trying to rub it in. 92 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:29,679 Speaker 2: M geez, just like, how's the chicken, babe? 93 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: Even better? 94 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 2: Put some spice on? 95 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, the little spice on it. 96 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: Great. She's also made caddy comments toward my husband, telling 97 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: stories about how he was always a sissy growing up. 98 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: I decided I couldn't put up with it anymore and 99 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: talk to scip another about it. He agreed, but acknowledged 100 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: that with his mother and sister, he has no backbone 101 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: and knows he will cave. 102 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: At least he's self aware. 103 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: Wow, He's like, I would do it, but I'm a 104 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: will sishy. 105 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 2: My spine is wet, wet noodle. 106 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: Sorry, I know you guys hate that. A little wet noodle. Fine, 107 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: it's like that one scene where uh and Harry Potter. 108 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: All my things start with Harry Potter where Professor Gildoy 109 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: Lockhart turns Harry's arm to a wet noodle. That's what 110 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: That's what he did with the spine flopping flopping. He 111 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: agreed to acknowledge that with his mother and sister, he 112 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: has no backbone and he will cave. I e. You 113 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: are a giant poopy pants. So I talked to her. 114 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: I told her that while she's a part of our family, 115 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: we feel she has taken advantage of us. At this point, 116 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: I need to know what her plans to leave are 117 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: because this is no longer working for me or significant other. 118 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: She told me that significant other told her she could 119 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: stay as long as she needs. 120 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: Bro. 121 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: Talk about lack of backbone. There is no back to 122 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: that bone. Bro, That bone is not there. There was 123 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: no pushback. Even a noodle pushes back harder than that 124 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: freaking backbone. 125 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 2: This is not e it is water. 126 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 4: It is well. 127 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, his backbone is like water. 128 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: Right out of the way. 129 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: She told me that significant other told her she could 130 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: stay as long as she wants and that she wasn't 131 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: planning on going back to Springfield. Oh, oh my god, 132 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: Oh my god. She said her relationships with her mother 133 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: is codependent and dangerous. She then insinuated that if I 134 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: send her back, significant other will turn against me. I 135 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: told her she has a week. I know significant other 136 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: and her threats won't work, and I promise her, Yeah, 137 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: I know significant other and he has no backbone, So 138 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: there's no way he's turning against me rocks. Fine, Yeah, 139 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: he's a floppy noodle that's just gonna go between two rocks. 140 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: It's like playing tennis with like an open can of 141 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: spaghetti noodles. 142 00:06:58,960 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 2: That's quite a sight. 143 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: And I promise her she doesn't want to make him 144 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: pick between us, because he will see what she's trying 145 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: to really do. That did not go well. Things quieted down. 146 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: She had her interview on Monday. She's been ignoring me 147 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: the past few days, but significant other says the interview 148 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: went well and that she's anticipating getting the job. He 149 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: said she spoke of staying with us, but he held strong, 150 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: saying that unless something crazy happens, she'll have to go. 151 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: If she has to start the job asap, we can 152 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: possibly help her find a place. We buy an Amtrak 153 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: ticket for Saturday morning or something. Well, what do you 154 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: guess it? Something crazy happens on Friday, just before she 155 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: has to leave, so she asked to extend her stay. Again. 156 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: I get a text from significant other, we need to 157 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: talk when you get home. I am worried you relapsed. 158 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: Where did that come from? Oh boy, some context. I 159 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: am in recovery for kleptomania. Since I was child, I've 160 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: stolen just to steal, just for the sport of it, 161 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: not because I needed something or didn't have the money, 162 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: but because I love it the thrill of the game. 163 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: I feel that way about ping outside. Yeah it's illegal, 164 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: but I'm in it for the thrill of the game. 165 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: How many times, dude, we lived next to a school? Yeah, 166 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: I get that. Get that shit a lot. 167 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: Remember what happened the other day? 168 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 4: We're like, oh, yeah, there's no kids walking home from school. 169 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: Dam right there? Right? 170 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: Oh paradum, yep, that's right when you least expect it. 171 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: So if you want to go to prison, get fine, 172 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: go hi. 173 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: Go ahead, whip it out, keep keep going it out 174 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: like a dog, like a dog in the sun. I 175 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: haven't stolen since before a significant other and I started 176 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: dating about three years ago and have done extensive therapy 177 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: over the years to deal with this. I have been 178 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: very candid about it with everyone, including mother in law 179 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: and sister in law. Mother in law called Steve another 180 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: on Friday morning, saying that sister in law called her 181 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: in tears on Thursday night she noticed that some of 182 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: her clothes we're missing, including a. 183 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: Ring, she's trying to frame op what. 184 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: She took it upon herself to search my room, finding 185 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: the ring on my dresser and searching through my closet 186 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: where she found the clothing. She told them that they 187 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: understand my job is stressful and that having sister in 188 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: law to stay with us added some stress. So they 189 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: weren't upset and wouldn't take any further action, but they 190 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: were truly concerned. Dude, dude freaking brilliant though. Hey, we 191 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: saw that she's been stealing again. We're not mad. We 192 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: just want what's best for her. 193 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 4: But diacally brilliant. 194 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is I love it, but I hate it. 195 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: She's a professional, But they were truly concerned. Sister a 196 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: Lot found several pieces of clothing with tags on them 197 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,599 Speaker 1: buried in my closet by her clothes. They believe I 198 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: have started shotlifting again, in addition to stealing from sister 199 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: in law. I did not relapse. I did not buy 200 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: those clothes, and I believe either they were closed she 201 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: purchased and it was the perfect circumstance, or she purchased 202 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: them to set me up. I come home to it 203 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: feels like an intervention. Sister law and significant other are 204 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: sitting in my living room with her clothes, rings, and 205 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: stolen close, all laid out. She has him completely believing this. 206 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: My significant other looks distraught. He wants to help me 207 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: and fully believes that I've relapsed. Sister in law volunteers 208 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: to stay with us. 209 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: Ah dude, ah, mastermind. 210 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: She's so sorry, freaking four D chest like, man, this 211 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: is terrible, but you know, game respect, game like that's 212 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: that's crazy she is. She's got this down. 213 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: I'm just waiting for her to like behind closed. 214 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 4: We always go to op and be like, so you 215 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 4: thought that, uh you could just tell me to leave? 216 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: Yeah you thought that. 217 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: Try again, bucko, you could do it without my brother. 218 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: Oh we are just getting started. You will be on 219 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: the streets by noon. Dude. If she applied this energy 220 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: to just filling a fricking job, yeah, jesus wow, where 221 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: would she be. Sisonal A volunteers to stay with us. 222 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: She's a c A DC and feels her skills can 223 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: help me. What's that, Riley? What is that? Significant other? 224 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: His heartbroken and he feels he caused this by bringing 225 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: stress into my life. 226 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: Taking all ooh Certified Alcohol and drug counselors Oh. 227 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: Get out of here, Get out of here. Yeah, just 228 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: a FuG with people, just to mess with people, taking 229 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: all the blame off the sistern law. I'm at a loss. 230 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: The past thirty six hours have been a nightmare. Whenever 231 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: sister law is alone with significant other, she keeps planting 232 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: seeds of doubt about my recovery, hinting that I seem 233 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: to be wearing clothes that are above my pay grade. 234 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: But I don't have any debt, So where is all 235 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: of this coming from? When we talk, I can see 236 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: the wheels of doubt turning in his head. Is she 237 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: stealing again? Is my sister right? I've tried to explain 238 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: all of this to significant other and it seems like 239 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: he believes me, but he cannot imagine that his sister 240 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: would try to frame me like this. He knows his 241 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: mother and sister have issues, but to him, they would 242 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: never try to hurt him, especially by attacking me. To me, 243 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: it's obvious that sister in law and mother in law 244 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: have always been able to manipulate significant other to do 245 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: whatever they wanted because he's got a noodle spine. Had 246 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: I not been in the picture, sister in law would 247 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: have moved in without an issue. Since I wasn't going 248 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: along with her plan, she had to do something to 249 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: disrupt Itoo. I don't know how to handle this with 250 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,119 Speaker 1: her or my mother in law. I know that significant 251 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: other and I can't recover from this, but I am 252 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: worried it will be at the cost of his relationship 253 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: with his sister and mother. Sorry if my questions weren't clear, 254 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: How do I broach this with my husband in the 255 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: long run based on their past behavior, especially this, I'm 256 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: nervous this is going to become a long term problem 257 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: between us. So how do I communicate to him? You 258 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: pick me or I walk? And how do I mitigate 259 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: this now? Getting her out? Do I bother trying to 260 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: clear my name with the stealing? I don't want to 261 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: get overly defensive. We got some relevant comments and some updates, 262 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, like, what does ope he do 263 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: because it seems like the sister kind of has successfully 264 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: been turning a significant other's ear. 265 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like, and you know on the show 266 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,359 Speaker 4: we try to stay away from the ultimatums. 267 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: But correct me if I'm wrong, Sam. 268 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like there's a way. 269 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I feel like there's a way where she 270 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 4: could approach this with husband and be like, hey, look, 271 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 4: I don't want to get to a place where I'm like, 272 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 4: you know, it's me or her, But she's living in 273 00:13:59,280 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 4: our place. 274 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, she framed me. She's an absolute freaking maniac. 275 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 2: She's been. 276 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 4: She lives in her house way longer than we expected, 277 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 4: or she originally told us, so that that's at least 278 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 4: one hundred percent of fact. Right, She's like, even before 279 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 4: all this happened, she was trying to. 280 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like I think, just like think about 281 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: incentives here, you know, like, like, yes, she's a master manipulator, 282 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: but her incentive has always been to stay in our house. 283 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: She stayed there for two weeks when we're on vacation successfully, 284 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: we were okay with that. She then extended it by 285 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: three weeks to find a job, and like we were like, 286 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: all right, like that's a little bit much, but we 287 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: extended that. Now she wants to stay longer, but she's 288 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: run out of our goodwill, and so what is she doing. 289 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: She's doing master manipulation tactics. Don't look at what she says, 290 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: look at what her incentives are, right, And I think 291 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: that's how you expose manipulators. You don't. You don't. You 292 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: don't follow what they say, you follow what they're incentivized by. Yes, 293 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: And I think with this, like look at the incentives. 294 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 4: Put it on a calendar. You'll see when was the 295 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 4: ring found? And when did we give her the deadline 296 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 4: to move? 297 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 298 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and like what are my incentives? My incentives are 299 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: to get her out? But I like, like, I haven't. 300 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: Why would I Why would I steal at this point? 301 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: You know, when I would give her AMMO potentially for 302 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: staying longer? Like my incentives are not aligned with this. Yeah, 303 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: Oh but it's hard. This is hard. I also like, 304 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I mean, yes, I know you want 305 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: to stay in your relationship, but like, is this guy 306 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: worth staying for you as like zero back? 307 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? That is also a very very good Like that's 308 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 2: a red flag. I say, you play your own game. 309 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: Nah, dude, No, don't think so you pull this off especially, No, dude, No, 310 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: the forty chest is too powerful. 311 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: Sister in law is Kendrick, OPI is Drake. 312 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not gonna work. It's not gonna work. 313 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: Just give it up, bro, really yeah, just give it up. 314 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: Just drop a few songs. Just drop a few more 315 00:15:58,840 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: AI songs than you have to. 316 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: So we got some comments and some updates. So wait, 317 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: what f she brought clothes to frame you by by 318 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: saying you stole them, and he believes that. Wow, so 319 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: much effery. Wow, the sister Alan needs to go ASoP 320 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: and out of our lives. Opie replied, he is so 321 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: fleeced by them that I don't even think he considered 322 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: it until I told him that if he really believes 323 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: I stole stuff, then I would leave. But even then 324 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: he was trying to say things like, well, maybe they 325 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: were old clothed you bought and forgot about, because my 326 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: sister wouldn't do that to me. He doesn't know what 327 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: to believe. He believes I didn't steal. He trusts me, 328 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: but he doesn't believe me when I say that she 329 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: is setting me up. Man is like stuck between a 330 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: rock and a hard place. Yeah, with a noodle spine, 331 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: that's a tough place to be, right. He thinks that 332 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: maybe our stuff got mixed up somehow, and that that's 333 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: how her stuff ended up in our room, and that 334 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: she just is having a hard time with him being married. 335 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: In other comments, he's willing to believe her when she 336 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: says you stole, but not willing at all to believe 337 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: you when you say she said letting you up. I 338 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like he's trying to believe I 339 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: think he's trying to find a world. When a man 340 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: has a spine of a noodle, he tries to find 341 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: the truth that causes the least amount of conflict internally. 342 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: And so he's picking the truth that allows everyone to 343 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: be right and everyone to be happy. 344 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but. 345 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: He's got a noodle spine, got a noodle spine, got 346 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: a little noodle spine, but not willing at all to 347 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: believe you when you say she's setting you up. Let 348 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: that sink and in Nope, he replied, Yeah, he really has. 349 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: Since I posted it, I gave him an ultimatum. Either 350 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: she goes to a hotel at this point, I'm willing 351 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: to pay for a few days just to get her out, 352 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: or I stay with my brothers and they can be roommates. 353 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: Oh so now we're just going to wait for her 354 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: to come back so she can get out. He even 355 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,479 Speaker 1: packed her bags, So I think he's realizing how much 356 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: of a mistake he made. At this point. That's good. 357 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: Maybe his noodle spine is growing back. 358 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: He's gone from water to al dente. 359 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: Madam Pomfrey just pulled up with some bone growing juice, 360 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: and he's gonna freaking slop that crap up. That's gonna 361 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: be spit it out, maybe initially and then mouto, Pomfrey's 362 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: gonna be like, what. 363 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 2: Did you think? Pumpkin juice? Someone's been falling asleep in 364 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 2: their audio books. Ladies and gentlemen, I have I have 365 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 2: love it. 366 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: We love Harry Potter. It's no free sponsor. 367 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: It's really the best. 368 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: Comic. 369 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: Three. 370 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: Are you the same clothing size as a sister? Who 371 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: did the clothing fit? 372 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 4: Now? 373 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: If sister's playing real chess, she knows Opie's size. It's 374 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: the glove, the OJ glove, Yeah, the OJ Does it 375 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: freaking fit? Does it fit? Opie? 376 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: Reply? 377 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: We are both mediums and they are just top so 378 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: it could fit either of us. Update Thanks to all 379 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: who provided advice and answer my questions. After reading everything, 380 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: I gave significant other an ultimatum. Either sister in law 381 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: left that night or I did, and I would leave. 382 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: Him foot down. 383 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be put after his manipulative sister 384 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: and mother in the pecking order, so it's either her 385 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: or me. At this point. He agreed she would go, 386 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: but we both knew it would not be pretty. We 387 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: decided to offer to pay for a hotel and Amtrak 388 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: ticket if she refused at first, hoping this would be 389 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: a bargaining tool to get her to agree. I showed 390 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: Snapian an old at the previous thread, and he initially 391 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: said nothing, but went directly to our guest room and 392 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: packed everything of hers up quickly. He then apologized for everything. 393 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: I told him that we both know this is more 394 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: than his sister trying to claim residency in her condo, 395 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: and that we have to resolve this or it will 396 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 1: eat at our marriage. He agreed to go to therapy 397 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: with me, and if need be, go to therapy on 398 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: his own. He doesn't want to let this destroy our marriage. 399 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: We had a really frank discussion about my recovery. I 400 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: explained to him that if I were stealing again, it 401 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: would be obvious and we would have random things around 402 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: the house that we didn't have before. I wouldn't have 403 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 1: been able to restrain myself to a few shirts if 404 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: I relapsed. He was really supportive and apologetic. He trusted 405 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: his sister due to her experience with addictions, but seemed 406 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: to understand that this was manipulation on her part. She 407 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: ended up showing up later on Sunday, letting herself into 408 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: the condo like it was just a normal day. It 409 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: took her all of a minute to see her bags. Good, 410 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: there we go, seeking of another pushed her bags out 411 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: into the hall, and when she tried to get them, 412 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: he shut them both out there WHOA. I left them 413 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: alone because he needed to do this on his own 414 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: without me. I heard her crying, and I know he 415 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: offered to take her to a hotel and pay for 416 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: her train. She told him to f. 417 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,479 Speaker 2: Off cool, save you money, see you do it. 418 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: After a little bit, she started throwing a fit in 419 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: the hall and was sobbing loud enough the whole floor 420 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,239 Speaker 1: could probably hear. I could make her out, saying that 421 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: he was a bandoned her in her time of need, 422 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: and that that witch has to stop controlling you. I'm 423 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: your family. Took every ounce of restraint for me to 424 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: not go and slap a witch, but my significant other 425 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: reminded me that she was trying to agitate me. Eventually, 426 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: my neighbor couldn't take it anymore and texted me that 427 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: he called the good old Chicago PD to shut her up. 428 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: Cops came a little later. They spoke to her first, 429 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: because she was currently camped out to the hall. 430 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 431 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: She told them that she wanted me arrested for punting 432 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: her out of her home at a feeling she would 433 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: do this, and for stealing from her. She told them 434 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: I was trying to steal her purse, it was in 435 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: the kitchen where she dropped it prior to seeing another 436 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: pushing her out, A ring and a few outfits, plus 437 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 1: I was stealing from stores. I told the nice officer 438 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: about the whole incidant, including her allegations. Significant other backed 439 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: me up, stating that she was setting me up and 440 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: that this was all really family issues, not legal. At 441 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: this point, they told her that not only had she 442 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: attempted to file a full police report, but she was 443 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: also disturbing the peace for no reason. She told them 444 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: she had nowhere to go, but after telling the police 445 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: she lived in Springfield and had come up here to 446 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: house it, they noped her residency claim. Cops told us 447 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: that because she claimed to have no money and had 448 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: no car, and her residence was far away. We had 449 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: two options because we couldn't just punt her out with 450 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: nowhere to go. Either we let her stay until she 451 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: could arrange for a method home. I get her a 452 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: train ticket tomorrow, or we take her home right then 453 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: and there. But there's only one way that they could 454 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: guarantee she would be gone tomorrow morning. 455 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 2: I say, go right now. 456 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, just get it, get it over with her 457 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 4: up and send her out. 458 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: Driver yourself to make sure. I don't know, like it's 459 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: at that point it's worth it. 460 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, Yeah, so careble car though, so give me 461 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: another and I talked about it. We were concerned letting 462 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: her stay an additional light would just make things worse 463 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: and we would be right back where we started. Agreed. 464 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: We opted to drive her home right then. She agreed 465 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: to this without much issue. I think the cops made 466 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: her realize that her little plot was over. Thank God. 467 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: The beginning of the drive was pretty awful. She cried 468 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: for the first hour, laid the guilt on thick. He's 469 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: caused her so much stress, he doesn't care about her, 470 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: can't see what I'm trying to do. She's only looking 471 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: out for him. They are twins, their bond is stronger 472 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: than ours, and I don't want kids, so how could 473 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: he want to stay with me. I'll admit that I 474 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: fed into her a bit with some name calling, delusional, stupid, witch, insane, 475 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: but I had reached my breaking point, not my proudest moment. 476 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: After a while, sneeph Another and I put on an 477 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: audio book or maybe a podcast and just ignored her, 478 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: which worked. She slept the rest of the time, while 479 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: sleep for Another and I we're just both wired with anxiety. 480 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: By the time we get to mother in law's house, 481 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: it is around two am, and we drop her off 482 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: without incident. Mother in law calls us as we are 483 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes away, tell sney for Another that I 484 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: am a cancer on their family and told him that 485 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: he had to stand up to me to choose his 486 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: family for once, which I mean he's been doing for ages, 487 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: holly delusional. He told his mother that he picked me 488 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: and he is sorry. She feels that it has to 489 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: be one or the other, but she made that choice, 490 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: not him. The drive home, sign if Another poured everything out. 491 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: Apparently his childhood abuse goes so much further than he 492 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: has shared before, sister in law would regularly torment him, 493 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 1: but when he would tell his mother, she would blame him. Okay, 494 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: so the sister has a history of just being the 495 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: worst person. 496 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 2: No wonder his spine is made of water. 497 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 4: Like, Yeah, they've they've like gotten him to this point 498 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 4: where it's like his spirit is broken. Yeah. 499 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: I mean I feel like I feel like a strong 500 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: spine would just hurt more, you know, because you have 501 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: to stick up against its abuse. And if you're a 502 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: noodle spine, like maybe like some of the abuse just 503 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: like slips right on by, you know. 504 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 3: If you get if you get hit with a punch, 505 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 3: you're like I supposed to give into it, not like 506 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 3: like that is where you get. 507 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: A The noodle is a defense mechanism in this case. 508 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,479 Speaker 2: Maybe uh. 509 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: He agreed that he thought the distance was enough to 510 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: deal with everything, but he needs more than that. He 511 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: also needs to come to terms with his relationship with 512 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: his mother's sister, half siblings, and stepfather. Maybe over he 513 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: was scared to admit how bad it was, and I 514 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: hate that it took his sister behaving like this for 515 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: it to come out. It's absolutely heartbreaking. We took the 516 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: day off, slept a lot, watched some Rick and Morty, 517 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: went to a fairly productive therapy session, and we are 518 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: eating some awesome pizza. It's hard to sit back and 519 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: realize that my relationship kind of crumbled this weekend, but 520 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: have faith that we can each work on a relationship 521 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: and ourselves. When we turned seif Another's phone back on, 522 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: there were several voice mails and numerous text messages from 523 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: sistern law and mother in law apologizing for everything. Significant 524 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: another and I have talked about him going completely zero 525 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: contact with both sistern law and mother in law and 526 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: I think I think changing our phone numbers is a 527 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: good place to start. But he is apprehensive. He is 528 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: worried about emergencies, but I don't want to give them 529 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: any further opportunity to sabotage our relationship. This is absolutely 530 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: the right move, correct. I am thinking of finding him 531 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: especially therapist. Honestly, one hundred percent that's what we need 532 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: to assist with this. But I don't know where to 533 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: start or what questions I should be asking with such 534 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: family issues, Where should we start with this? Got some comments? 535 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: So you change those locks? Have you changed those locks? Yet? 536 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 2: Do rude facts run run? 537 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: She is delusion enough to come back and let herself 538 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: in again. Some more thoughts in protecting yourselves. I would 539 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: also suggest giving a pick of sister in law and 540 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: mother in law and any other immediate family to your 541 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: neighbors and the doorman if you have one. Tell them 542 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: to contact you immediately. If these people are spotted nearing home, 543 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: if you think they are nuts enough to go to 544 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: your work, give your management warning. But it doesn't sound 545 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: as though they will take it that far. Seriously, consider 546 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: changing all your credit and debit cards to new accounts. 547 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: We call your banks and make sure that crap is 548 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: locked down, Oh God, and run credit reports. You can 549 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: do this for free on annual credic report dot com. 550 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: Change your passwords for websites or anything that might have 551 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: been stored on your computer your significan. Another did pick 552 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: a family, He picked you, and it was his best choice. 553 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: His family can all take a long walk off a 554 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: short peer into a lake of fire. Honestly, go no 555 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: contact for a while, block them on everything. Is there 556 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: a friend or distant family member who can inform him 557 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: if there is an emergency, and go for both of 558 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: you to some therapy. And kudos to your sixers in 559 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: law for fining the strength to tell you about his past. 560 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: He will definitely need your love and support to work 561 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: through his family nightmare. Now go get some deep dish 562 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: from me. I won't be out that way for two months. 563 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: California pizza isn't the same, although Zachary's in the Bay 564 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: Area is amazing, and op replied, we aren't going to 565 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: change the She gave her keys back, but she could 566 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: have made a copy. 567 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 2: Yep. 568 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about her coming back. There's a little 569 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 1: of our three hours in travel between us, and she 570 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: doesn't have a car. Craziness knows no bounds. I don't 571 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: know that's correct. It's travels at the light of speed, okay. 572 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: And our building is a secure building. It's not huge. 573 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: So all of our neighbors have figured out what happened, 574 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: and I am sure they are pretty vigilant about building safety. 575 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: But thank you for the suggestions. I think the motivation 576 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: was really to control sticking of another. But those are 577 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: things neither of us had thought about and just got 578 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: out on our to do list for tomorrow. The third 579 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: party contact is probably for the best. I'm thinking one 580 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: of my brothers may be a good choice, but that's 581 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: a decision we have to make together. Thank you for 582 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: your nice words. Hopefully you can get your stuff, stuff 583 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: your face with deep dish and Italian beasts. For a 584 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: few months and we got another update. My god, oh 585 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: my god, oh my god. But really quick, do you 586 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: think OP and their fiance are making the right to 587 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: decisions with. 588 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 2: All of this? Yeah? 589 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 4: I mean, you know what, shout out to honestly learning 590 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 4: about the history with the husband, like with a significant other, 591 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 4: like kind of understand why he is the way he is, 592 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 4: and kind of great that he's grown that backbone from 593 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 4: from water to water. 594 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: To something else, noodle to pasta. 595 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 4: And beyond, and he's absolutely making the right move. 596 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 2: I do hope they heed the warning of the commenter though, 597 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 2: and kind of get. 598 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 4: Serious about like at least the locks. Yeah, because like 599 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 4: I I again. 600 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: We've read a lot of stories. You want to be careful, you. 601 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 4: Want to be careful, and she's already she's already done 602 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 4: something crazy. So I don't, I don't, I don't. I 603 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 4: don't want to leave anything to chance with them. But 604 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 4: they've done everything right. 605 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: They've done everything right textbook. Yeah, and I think shout 606 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: out shout out Reddit for for giving us. The textbook 607 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: answers to the questions that we need like this is 608 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: extremely helpful. 609 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 4: Also, just to point out how insane this is. Sistern 610 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 4: law is a counselor? How is she a counselor? 611 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: I cannot imagine who is going to this person for advice. 612 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: No one should go to this person for advice? 613 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: So bad? 614 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 4: Whatsoever? 615 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: Oh god? 616 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 4: Oh, looks like Bob stole from the rehab facility. 617 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: But again, Bob sister in law. All right, let's get 618 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: into this next update, do it? 619 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: Oh? 620 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: So hello? They are everyone? A bit of an update. 621 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: It's been two weeks since we removed sister in law 622 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: from our residents, and what a doozy they have been. 623 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: I could actually use some advice going forward, since everyone 624 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: was so great before. All right, wait, a few peaceful 625 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: days since returning home, got back into our routines, went 626 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: to therapy and got my sister and got my significant 627 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: other set up with an individual therapist on his own. 628 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: Great move. We didn't end up changing either of our 629 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: numbers for other reasons, but agreed that if they couldn't 630 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: respect our wishes, then we would just have to block 631 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: their numbers entirely. It wasn't an issue until this past week. 632 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 2: Go oh baby, here we go. 633 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: On Friday, sister significant other's younger brother YBE, who was 634 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: sixteen and living at a younger brother, well that's that's 635 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: the YB, who was sixteen living at home, called him. 636 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: He wanted to give him a heads up that mother 637 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: in law and sister in law were coming up here 638 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: to visit some family member. They decided to bring him 639 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: with so he could see significant another. Even he knew 640 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: that this didn't smell right. Shout out, I thought he 641 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: was gonna be bad, sneaky. 642 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 2: Thank god. 643 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: Significant other freaked out. He realized that they were going 644 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: to manipulate him into seeing them by using younger brother 645 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: as bait. God he was right. I was out of 646 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: town by this point, already for a bachelorette party, leaving 647 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: my I for another alone. Oh man, that backbone is 648 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: going to be noodling. Oh no, not at all prepared 649 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: to deal with his family and me not being able 650 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: to get home until Sunday. Younger brother called on Saturday 651 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: to let significant other know that he would like to 652 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: see him. They had some time before they at an 653 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: home and we're in our neighborhood for some reason, so 654 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: sniffan Other and younger brother hung out for a few 655 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: hours in her home. They played some video games, ate 656 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: some takeout, and just had a nice afternoon of brother bonding. 657 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 4: This is good. 658 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: Hopefully it stays good. Younger brother told stephan Other that 659 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: he didn't believe that my mother in law and sister 660 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: in law had been saying, but that they had done 661 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: nothing but bashed me on their social media pages. Okay, 662 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: so they're talking trash. He pulled out their pages on 663 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: his phone and was able to give sleep Another a 664 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: screen shot of them. One of the posts says, well, then, 665 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: hoity witch has managed to brainwash my son again. Please 666 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: pray that Jesus will deliver him from the devil that 667 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: he lays with. She is nothing short of cancer in 668 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: my life, and I worry that this will drive me 669 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: to illness. Pray for us all. Uh, dude, Facebook is wild. 670 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: I can't believe people are doing stuff like that. 671 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 2: Dude. 672 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 3: Oh man, I have to ignore Facebook. 673 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh if only we could. 674 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: I just can't even with this. She's not even religious. 675 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: But anyway, Significant other kept it together for the rest 676 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: of their visit. At the end, both mother in law 677 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: and sister in law attempted to come up to the condo, 678 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: but he was able to keep them downstairs, only speaking 679 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: to them outside. All right, backbone strengthening. 680 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 2: Here we go. 681 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: Then sister in law dropped a bomb on significant other. 682 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: What is it? 683 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: She said, She's been severely depressed and needed him. She 684 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: miscarried recently and it had been awful on her. Oh dude, 685 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: amazing manipulation tactic. 686 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 2: Amazing, show me the pregnancy test and everything. 687 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 4: Show me if you show me the all of the 688 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 4: pregnancy stuff. Absolutely, I'm taking you back to dinner. I'm 689 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 4: gonna sit down with you. You're not going anywhere near 690 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 4: my house. 691 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I will sit down and be like, I 692 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: don't know, you know I'm here. 693 00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 4: I think. 694 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: I think also maybe put a line and say like, hey, 695 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm down to be there with you. Don't I'm not 696 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: bringing to my house. And also, you are not talking 697 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: about my significant other. Yes, let's talk about you. You're 698 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: not talking about how are you feeling? Yeah, boom, you 699 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: will not bring her up. She just needed her twin 700 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: to comfort her. See if your other felt immensely guilty. 701 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: Neither of us had any idea that this happened. Did 702 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: it actually happen. I got home early yesterday and I 703 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: could read the conflict on his face. We thought about it. 704 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: My frustration with mother in law and sister in law 705 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: is at its peak, especially after seeing the barrage of 706 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: Facebook posts. Significant other agrees that those posts are over 707 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: the line, but most of them are from mother in law. True, 708 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: but sister and a law had two that were passive, aggressive, 709 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: and clearly aimed towards me. He thinks it wouldn't be 710 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: fair to hold the sister in law accountable for those. 711 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 4: I disagree. 712 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: She made these choices that got us into this place. 713 00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: She literally started this entire thing, not us. Now she 714 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: has to deal with the consequences, regardless of whatever trauma 715 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: she may have endured that spurred this on. Honestly, I 716 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: don't necessarily believe that she really had a miscarriage. Our 717 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: fight consisted of name calling, him, calling me insensitive and cold, 718 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 1: me calling him naive and manipulated, and bickering, which was 719 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 1: a lot considering we normally only fight over whose house 720 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 1: is better from Game of Thrones. Nice We spoke after 721 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: our fight yesterday and were able to move on from it, 722 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: but then today we both could feel the tension It 723 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 1: was only amplified when he told me he was texting 724 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: sister in law to check on her. I feel like 725 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: we have regressed and now I am back behind sister 726 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: in law in the pecking order. When I feel that 727 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: I should be first, I deserve to be first, right 728 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: by the way, we deserve to be first. And you 729 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 1: should go listen to our podcast by searching Okay story 730 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: Time wherever you get your podcasts, and you can listen 731 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 1: while doing other things. You can listen while painting your nails, 732 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: while running, while doing the dishes, while working, while doing 733 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: whatever you do could also be listening to us. That's right. 734 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: Just listen to a search up Okay story Time wherever 735 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 1: you get your podcast. 736 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 2: Check it out. 737 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: So how do I handle this? Is it best to 738 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: jump into couple's therapy? This is something we both think 739 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: is a good place to go, but not necessarily right now. 740 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 1: Do I suggest we go no contact until we get 741 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: a clear idea? Yeah? I guess question all those two. 742 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 2: Is she saying go no contact with each other? 743 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: So OPI is asking is it best to jump into 744 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: family therapy? Or is that not something we do right now? 745 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 2: So? 746 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: Do I suggest we go no contact until we get 747 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: a clear idea, Like what what do you think we 748 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: do here? 749 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 4: I mean, I definitely think a couple's therapy, Yeah is great. 750 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 4: It's it's going no contact with each other or. 751 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: With no no with with the husmin's family. 752 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean honestly do both, Like yeah, that's 753 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 4: you know they're just gonna keep Yeah, I think so. 754 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 2: I think we might as well as just get it 755 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 2: out of the way. 756 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: At least for a time, go no contact just for 757 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: a bit so you can get your bearings, you know, give. 758 00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 4: Them a time out, although I don't. I don't know 759 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 4: if I would tell them the time of the time. 760 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: I just say, yeah, I give a distance. I don't 761 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: want to feel guilty if his sister really went through 762 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 1: that and I take away her support. But at some 763 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: point I need to put my marriage first. Part of 764 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: me wants to just confront my sister in a low 765 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: and tape the conversation because I know her and I 766 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: know she won't be able to not gloat to me. 767 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: My marriage is my number one priority at the end 768 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: of the day. So how do I convey that I 769 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 1: need it to be his two without coming off as selfish? 770 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,439 Speaker 1: We do got a little bit more of the story. 771 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,280 Speaker 1: I m I have another update, so we got some comments, 772 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: so you're seeing it out there. Drank the cool aid again, 773 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 1: even though his younger brother warned him they were cooking 774 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: something back to draw him back in. Bottom line is 775 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: is this the kind of life you want for yourself? 776 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: You were constantly doing the pick me dance because your 777 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: husband continually breaks ranks when his family exerts the right 778 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,439 Speaker 1: amount of pressure on him. It's ridiculous. Will he ever 779 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 1: be ready to view you as a team and adopted 780 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: us versus problem approach to issues? Him turning on you 781 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: again and letting his sister come between you again is 782 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: absolutely regressing. I'd say at this point he isn't ready 783 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: to be married. Therefore, shall a man leave his father 784 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife, and 785 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: they shall be one flesh? Or as my dad said, 786 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: a man a man forgets the arms of his mother 787 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 1: when he meets the legs of a woman. Dad, man, 788 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: but he says it in Spanish. 789 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, it probably sounds way cooler. That makes it 790 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 2: ten times more hilarious. 791 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: In modern language of this, leaving your parents means recognizing 792 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: that your marriage created a new family, and that this 793 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,280 Speaker 1: new family must be a higher priority than your previous family. 794 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 1: If spouse's neglect to cleave to each other, the result 795 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: is a lack of intimacy and unity. I would suggest 796 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: talking to him not about his sister's latest drama, which 797 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: I read seems like a false story, but how him 798 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: turning on your you and your arguments made you feel 799 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: you are not sure how much longer you can endure 800 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: this marriage when at the first sign of conflict he 801 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: is so ready to believe the worst of you. OPI replied, No, 802 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: I don't want this life for myself. I see my 803 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: marriage as an US and not me than him. But 804 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: it is clear that he is not on the same page. 805 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,439 Speaker 1: His US is him, sister and mother in law, which 806 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: is completely backwards. I'm thinking she's faking. It's just too convenient, 807 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: But I don't think I can just accuse that without 808 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: looking bad. So he and I are going to have 809 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: to have a really difficult conversation pretty much me or 810 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: them in common to if they are so close, why 811 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: didn't sitter law tell the husband she was pregnant. I 812 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: know you wait three months to tell people because of this, 813 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: but immediate family is fine, right, especially one that is 814 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: supposedly close to you. Why did she keep it a 815 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 1: secret until now? Sure, if it's true she might need 816 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 1: the husband's support, but surely you tell the person so 817 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 1: they can efficiently help them instead of keeping it from them. 818 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: So many questions around such a convenient thing. And Nopie replied, 819 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: she's not married. She has been known to sleep around, right, 820 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: you thought we saw that, which, you know, whatever, she 821 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: should be able to have as much spicy sleep as 822 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: she wants. And she said she didn't tell anyone because 823 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: her mom would shamber, which is probably true. So if 824 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 1: and I think this is a rather big if this 825 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: is true, she keept a secret to only use it 826 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: to emotionally manipulate my significant other. 827 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 2: Also, remember she came down with mom. 828 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's like, okay, well mom, wou would have 829 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:01,760 Speaker 4: you know, oh, chastise you or whatever? 830 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 2: Well she's with you right now. Yeah, ridiculous the math 831 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 2: and math. 832 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 4: And ridiculous, ridiculous. But yeah, that is the end of 833 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 4: that story. 834 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 1: That's where it ends. 835 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 2: That's where it ends. Yeah, I wasn't ready. 836 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I really hope the snify other grows a backbone. 837 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: But it's feeling like he's consistently not able to prioritize 838 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: his marriage. So I don't know. I don't know, but 839 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: let us know what you think. What should OP do? 840 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: Put your answers in the comments below. 841 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 2: All right, let's get into this next story. 842 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: Brutal, brutal, that would be sad. Hey, it's Sam, your 843 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: ogi host here, bring it back to the stories. But 844 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: here's three minutes bads from our sponsor. 845 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,439 Speaker 4: Toxic co worker is a power tripper, but it led 846 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,839 Speaker 4: to his own downfall. 847 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: All right, let's see where this goes. I thought, I 848 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: said a power tipper, and I was like, oh, like 849 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: that sounds kind people. 850 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 4: In corporation names. It will be changed for personal and 851 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 4: privacy reasons. 852 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 2: For a quick. 853 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 4: Context, I used to work for five years at a 854 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 4: call center we will name ol Tima Foley, Okay. Following 855 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 4: my induction back in twenty sixteen, I was assigned to 856 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 4: a campaign with a code name CUBE, which handles customer 857 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 4: and tech support related to a driving app. I remember 858 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 4: it because it was really badly managed. People were constantly 859 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 4: rotated and we had at least four managers until the 860 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 4: end of Cube, which I will explain much later. And 861 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 4: by the way, this comes from d d Phoenix on 862 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 4: the r slash Okay storytime subreddit, or you can send 863 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 4: in your own stories to our slash. 864 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 2: Okay story time. Let's freaking out, So onto the main story. 865 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 2: It's January. 866 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 4: I was assigned to a new work team after my 867 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 4: first supervisor and some coworkers were fired due to some 868 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 4: sketchy fraud. I only survived because I barely interacted with anybody, 869 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 4: even to my supervisor. Shortly after starting with this new team, 870 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 4: I hit it off with three co workers we will 871 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 4: name Carl Andre and Brianda Brionda. As the four of 872 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 4: us were together, I see that along came a fifth 873 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 4: co worker about ten years older than us and looking 874 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 4: like Gollum. 875 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: That's so, well, shouldn't I shouldn't be making doing this 876 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: like this? I might have to give you a big 877 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 1: old smooth Oh god, oh golm smooth. Oh no, you, 878 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: my precious. 879 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 2: Save it for missus donner Man. 880 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 1: Uh, but you say that, I think of my mom. 881 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 2: Well, you're gonna have to get used to it when 882 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,800 Speaker 2: you get married. Brother. Come on, we'll call him Frank. 883 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: Okay. 884 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,479 Speaker 4: I've seen him around interacting with my then supervisor until 885 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 4: it was firing, but he was none of my business 886 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 4: at the time. When Frank came to us, he came 887 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 4: with an argant attitude, demanding us to shut up and 888 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 4: continue doing our respective jobs. I looked at Frank in 889 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 4: disgust as I talked in my mind. 890 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 1: Who do you think you are? 891 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 4: He then comes to me, looks at me freaking straight 892 00:43:53,440 --> 00:44:01,399 Speaker 4: in the eye, and says, come on, frob. 893 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: Dude, go jump into a volcano after a ring you freaking. 894 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 4: I was like, what the f He is threatening me 895 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 4: for no reason and I didn't tell him anything. Maybe 896 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,399 Speaker 4: he reads mind woopy was talking crap in his mind. 897 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 4: Frank then leaves while looking at Carl as if he 898 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 4: stepped on a dog's fresh turd. Following the whole ordeal, 899 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 4: Carl messaged me through hip chat and asked me of 900 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 4: what happened with my team. I told him that my 901 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 4: team was sacked because some fraudulent activity regarding use of 902 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,799 Speaker 4: that certain app happened. He there replies that some guys 903 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 4: of his team were also kicked out for the same reason, 904 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 4: and that he was looking at him in disgust because 905 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,720 Speaker 4: Carl is gay. Well, there we go, some good old 906 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 4: Gola homophobia. 907 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:52,959 Speaker 2: Dude, Frank just gets better and better. 908 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: It is, you know, like a fine wine dude. 909 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 2: Uh. 910 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 4: Andre then joins the conversation and adds that sense he 911 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 4: he became floor support. Frank has been on a power trip, 912 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 4: demanding everyone pretty much work like robots. Last weeks were 913 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 4: works orcs. Brianda joins and mentions not only he does 914 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 4: this to their team, but also barges into the other teams, 915 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 4: terrorizing them into silence. Carl then carries on and adds 916 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 4: that people tried to report him with their supervisor and EVENHR, 917 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 4: but they were very unsuccessful because they were all playing 918 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 4: favorites with. 919 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,320 Speaker 2: Him was powerful. 920 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 4: We continued working and chatting in the meantime. Then came 921 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 4: March twenty seventeen. Bruce, then operations manager, resigned and Michael, 922 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 4: an operations manager from another campaign, took over. It's a 923 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,280 Speaker 4: power play happening before very eyes. A lot of changes 924 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 4: came along with this advent, and as a result, our 925 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 4: team was split up. 926 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 2: Oh no, the forever Friend's. 927 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 4: Gone to another hicle. 928 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 1: The Nations need to be united to fight to the 929 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 1: doc law we needed. 930 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 4: I was assigned to another team and Frank Evil Frank 931 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 4: was changed to Morning shift herego, I wouldn't have to 932 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 4: put up with his attitude for the time being. Now 933 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,439 Speaker 4: fast forward to early twenties. Twenty eighteen, new changes came 934 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 4: with the campaign and you know what that means, team changes, shafts, 935 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 4: differtation that does not sound clean, and the arrival of 936 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 4: a new manager, Denise. By this time, both Brianda and 937 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,879 Speaker 4: Andre were no longer employees of. 938 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,800 Speaker 2: Ultimate Thuley the company. 939 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,280 Speaker 4: I was teamed up with Carl Agan and with newcomers Victoria, 940 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 4: Ashred and gother who were assigned to our crew. 941 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 2: But terror also came back with the return of Frank 942 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 2: to our shift. Frank is back. 943 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: It turns out, no, I don't want him back. 944 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 2: We don't want him back. 945 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 4: The ring has given him long life. 946 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 1: We want him off. 947 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 4: It turns out that new manager got word that Frank 948 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 4: has already been doing his thing with the morning shift 949 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 4: and she was not having it. Because of this, On 950 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 4: orders from Denise, Frank was demoted to customer service agent, 951 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 4: returned to the afternoon shift, and was assigned to our 952 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:10,879 Speaker 4: team as the only. 953 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 2: Available option form. 954 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 4: So not only has Evil Frank been demoted, and you 955 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 4: know he's going to be a grumpy, sour puss. He 956 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 4: was demoted straight into Opie's team. 957 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 1: No, Op, he can't get rid of this guy. 958 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 2: This is not good. 959 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,840 Speaker 4: Even in this new role, Frank was still behaving like 960 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 4: the entitled ahole I first met back in twenty seventeen, 961 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 4: but this time he had become more vindictive and apathetic. Anyhow, 962 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,359 Speaker 4: he got along with Gunther and their region of terror continued, 963 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 4: at least in our team. Victoria was the only one 964 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 4: of us who was civil on civil terms with Frank 965 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 4: at the time, while Astrid worked with him since they 966 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 4: were together in the morning shift. 967 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 1: Now. 968 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 4: During this period, things took another turn for the worse 969 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 4: when Victoria was appointed as a new member of floor 970 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 4: support man. This is just a this is just a 971 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 4: game of Djenga. Just things are being pulled and plopped 972 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,839 Speaker 4: back any which way. Evil Frank would continue to upstage her, 973 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 4: use his longtime knowledge as an excuse. Actually, he would 974 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,239 Speaker 4: do the same with all other team leaders. One of 975 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 4: these days, I was in a bad mood following a 976 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 4: dispute with my supervisor over an unpaid day of work. 977 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 4: The final straw came when I returned from lunch and 978 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 4: witnessed how Frank called Victoria a useless, puzzant. 979 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 2: They're all lost, loss enough puzzant. 980 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: I feel like even his insults are medieval. 981 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 2: The wrong of the phone. 982 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 4: This is when I snapped and yelled at him to 983 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 4: shut the f up, And all the times he had 984 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 4: make my workplace h double hockey sticks, and if it 985 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 4: weren't because he got all the staff eating at it 986 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 4: the palm palm of his hand, I would have personally put. 987 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 2: You out of your misery. Whoa, whoa, hope he's talking 988 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 2: has a big talk there big. My supervisor saw this. 989 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 4: Uh oh, broke the dispute and Victoria, Frank, and me 990 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,720 Speaker 4: were called to HR to testify on what happened. Expecting 991 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 4: the worst as Frank was still friends with the HR staff, 992 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 4: I was eventually called and Denise was there along with 993 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,720 Speaker 4: the HR rep who took the case. After having Frank 994 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 4: and Victoria give their version of the entire incident and 995 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,439 Speaker 4: Frank trying to convince them to fire me, I gave 996 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 4: my own. 997 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,360 Speaker 2: Version of what happened. 998 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,879 Speaker 4: Denise also brought some video evidence that Frank was a jerk. 999 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 4: Here we have the receipts. Both Denise and the HR 1000 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 4: Rep eventually let me go with only a verbal warning 1001 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:42,320 Speaker 4: on foul language, while Victoria demoted herself to customer service 1002 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 4: agent because of. 1003 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 2: All the trauma she suffered. Oh my goodness. Evil. 1004 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 4: Frank was eventually suspended for a week and sent to 1005 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 4: the graveyard shift, to which Gunther followed suit following his master. 1006 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 4: The rest of the period was peaceful for the most part, 1007 00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 4: until it wasn't. 1008 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 1: Oh boy, potentially, boy oh boy. 1009 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 2: Fast forward to March twenty twenty. We all know what 1010 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 2: happens there. 1011 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 4: Me, Carl, Me, Carl, and Astrid were still in the fold, 1012 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 4: but Victoria eventually quit. Frank and Gunther were changed the 1013 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,840 Speaker 4: afternoon shift again. At this time we were a little 1014 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 4: to no contact with them all because of the BS. 1015 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 4: Frank put us through, I love Heather. No contact with coworkers. 1016 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 4: That's kind of hilarious. While they're also in Frank that 1017 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,799 Speaker 4: you know, busy cooking up a new VID. 1018 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right, Rank. 1019 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 1: Is patient zero. 1020 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. 1021 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 4: It goes about saying that the VID pandemic already hit 1022 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 4: and we were all on the process of going home office, 1023 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,839 Speaker 4: which means we all wouldn't have a way to have 1024 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,359 Speaker 4: any contact with Frank at all. 1025 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 2: Time had passed. 1026 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 4: We were successfully settled into our respective houses. The only 1027 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 4: contact we would have would be between our team, our 1028 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 4: supervisor and force supports. But this didn't last much longer 1029 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 4: because in June first, we received a link from our 1030 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,719 Speaker 4: teams meeting to keep it short, we were informed that 1031 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 4: because of multiple complications of the pandemic has put the 1032 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 4: campaign through the client who connected the company with Ultima Thule, 1033 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,320 Speaker 4: the employer decided to put an end to Cube. 1034 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 2: You thought you forgot about Cube. It's back. It's back, 1035 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 2: except it's gone. It's a race from the face of 1036 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 2: the earth. No more Cube, No but Cube. 1037 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 4: I was offered to continue working in another campaign. I accepted, 1038 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 4: No way, accepted that crazy. But don't forget our friends, 1039 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,120 Speaker 4: the whole gang, the whole Gunther. 1040 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 2: Hasted and Frank. We're all dismissed. Whoa they lost their jobs. 1041 00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: No way, they lost their jobs. No, oh, not their job. 1042 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:05,760 Speaker 2: Wonder why? And now November twenty twenty two. 1043 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 4: We are we are years deep into this, so years 1044 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 4: for the final time. 1045 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 1: Skip. 1046 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 4: I stopped working at Ultima Thuley since June twenty twenty 1047 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,440 Speaker 4: one to join another company. 1048 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: Tell me about that new company. 1049 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,719 Speaker 4: Oh, I will carl through a small party his own place, 1050 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,720 Speaker 4: inviting me and former co workers Victoria Andre Astrid Gunther, 1051 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 4: and to my surprise even to me, Denise was invited. 1052 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 4: While having a booze driven pleasant conversation, it was at 1053 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 4: this point that Gunther revealed evil Frank's fate. 1054 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,840 Speaker 1: I actually do want to and I'm interested. I do 1055 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,359 Speaker 1: want to hear what Frank got. 1056 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 2: Hope he got us back. 1057 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,799 Speaker 1: I want yeah, i Ope he's got his back. I 1058 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,359 Speaker 1: want to know. I want to know the come up ands. 1059 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 4: But before we get to that, Oh my god, did 1060 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 4: you know the fate of your life could be decided 1061 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 4: and improved and forever changed by going to Spotify, Apple 1062 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 4: podcast for your favorite pot app and searching okay story 1063 00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 4: time search it to listen to Basic Unlimited episode. So 1064 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 4: if you want more content than your base can handle, 1065 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 4: go there. But Gunther told us that he had cut 1066 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 4: Frank out of his life months after they were dismissed, 1067 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,879 Speaker 4: as Frank was going obnoxious and blaming it on us 1068 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,280 Speaker 4: for his current situation that he was fired. He also 1069 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 4: revealed that Frank had been unable to find another job, Good, 1070 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 4: unable to continue paying rent, and he was eventually evicted. 1071 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:32,919 Speaker 2: Good live in a cave with your ring, your precious ring. 1072 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 2: That might be where we'reheaded. So Frank is now homeless? 1073 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:46,799 Speaker 4: Oh my god, what great crazy. 1074 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 2: Yes, that was the last time we ever knew about him. 1075 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 4: I don't feel bad about his fate, but I honestly, yeah, 1076 00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 4: he doesn't deserve homelessness, but. 1077 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 1: I don't as he does only cave. 1078 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 2: Let's give him a good cozy cave. 1079 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 1: Get nice. 1080 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 4: In the end, the only victim here was Frank, who 1081 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 4: did this all to himself. Bar and that is the 1082 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 4: end of that story. 1083 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 2: Dude. 1084 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 1: Wow and episode and episode. If you'll love us, make 1085 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 1: sure to subscribe. 1086 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 2: We love you and say it tomorrow. 1087 00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,360 Speaker 4: This is an episode from Deep within the Archives. 1088 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 2: Time for Okop relash. 1089 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 4: I evicted my brother after my parents disowned him for 1090 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,360 Speaker 4: being gay, but what he did to me was way worse. 1091 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 1: I feel like the eviction is like the top, the 1092 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 1: top of the line in terms of terrible things that 1093 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 1: could happen to you. Yeah, so maybe it's like the 1094 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 1: brother evicted or who we talk so op, the sister 1095 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,919 Speaker 1: evicted the brother, okay, but the brother did something way 1096 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 1: worse apparently, Okay, so I think the brother probably evicted 1097 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,879 Speaker 1: her in retaliation and then fed her to the alligators, Bro, 1098 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 1: I mean it did her into an alligator's mouth hole. 1099 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 4: Honestly, like you would really have to do something like 1100 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,720 Speaker 4: really really the way worse has. 1101 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,800 Speaker 2: To be way worse, like way worse. 1102 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,880 Speaker 4: But I guess I guess we're about to find Out's 1103 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 4: see for reference, my brother Connor is nineteen. I'm twenty six, 1104 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,439 Speaker 4: am I now ex fiance, Hunter is twenty eight ex 1105 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:29,880 Speaker 4: fiance ex fiance. Oh already, drama started in the first sentence. Hot. 1106 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 4: Also for reference, my brother was kicked out when he 1107 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 4: was sixteen because our parents snooped through his phone and 1108 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,239 Speaker 4: found out that he was gay. 1109 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,840 Speaker 1: Hmmm, God, but if you're looking at his gay stuff, 1110 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:43,719 Speaker 1: does that mean you're gay? 1111 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 2: Hey? 1112 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,359 Speaker 4: I mean they say that a lot of people who 1113 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 4: are closeted come out with more even more hate. 1114 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 1: It's true, that's true. Not only are they gay because 1115 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 1: of that, but they are also gay because they're watching 1116 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:57,719 Speaker 1: his gay porn. 1117 00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 2: Bro. This is they say. 1118 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 1: If we watch gay porn twice, that's that's the that's 1119 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:06,359 Speaker 1: the mark. Yeah, yeah, watch gate porn once. Hey, anyone's game, good, 1120 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:10,280 Speaker 1: good thing, that's number gay watch watch it twice? 1121 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:10,919 Speaker 2: It's over. 1122 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 1: Hey, there's a reason you're coming back, and it's probably 1123 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:14,360 Speaker 1: the dick. 1124 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah that's why. 1125 00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why. 1126 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,359 Speaker 4: That's why, or the other thing or the plot. Yeah, dude, 1127 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 4: the plot. The plot is pot hot. Is the plot 1128 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 4: is hogh, plot is hot. That's the only reason I 1129 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,839 Speaker 4: actually watched gate porn dude, of course, cinematic master. 1130 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,279 Speaker 1: Connoissewer of come exactly, we should get like lean back 1131 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,440 Speaker 1: chairs so we can go like this. Also, I'm like 1132 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:34,800 Speaker 1: fully flashing. 1133 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:35,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. 1134 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 4: The one thing that does is that we rock around 1135 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 4: the frame a lot. Connor had a birthday last weekend, 1136 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,279 Speaker 4: so he invited his friends over. They were all about 1137 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 4: eighteen to twenty two, so they were drinking and playing games. 1138 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 4: What kind of games the games were? You drank Naked Twister? 1139 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:54,720 Speaker 2: That that's a fun one. 1140 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love playing that. I would I would love 1141 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,879 Speaker 1: to do John, my birthday is coming up. By the way, 1142 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 1: that it is naked Twister is the mean activity. 1143 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,360 Speaker 2: Now I love how I have her friends. 1144 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,399 Speaker 4: I said, I love naked Twister, and now I am 1145 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:08,759 Speaker 4: morally obligated. 1146 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, because do you love naked Twister? You liar? 1147 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 4: Ten bro ten of Sam's Sweaty Friends. I'm like I'm 1148 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 4: here for it, except I'm not joking. 1149 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 2: I'm just just a joke, babe, Just a joke, babe. 1150 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 4: I've only watched my fiance Hunter and I were about 1151 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 4: to head out to let them have the place of 1152 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,040 Speaker 4: themselves when Connor asked if we wanted to. 1153 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 2: Join in join it? Wait, really, join in on the 1154 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,640 Speaker 2: funt join in on what kind of tricky game? 1155 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:44,920 Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, yeah. The intonation would have me believe 1156 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 1: it was Naked Twister. 1157 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 4: Exactly, but it was. It was harmless, harmless alcoholic games. Yeah, 1158 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 4: like naked Twister. 1159 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 2: Never heard anyone? 1160 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 1: When? When has anyone been hurt during Naked Twister? 1161 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 2: That is, These are the questions that need to be asked. 1162 00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 4: I agree and answered, which is why I'm asking them. 1163 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 4: That's right, trying to get I'm a nineteen twenties reporter 1164 00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 4: in a city that knows how to till its secrets. 1165 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 4: That's all right, extra extra extra making twister. It is 1166 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,920 Speaker 4: perfectly safe. Read all about it? 1167 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:10,800 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 1168 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,960 Speaker 4: Now I initially refused to join. I'm a bit too 1169 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 4: old to be playing drinking games, but he insisted. 1170 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 1: What's too old to? Sorry? 1171 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 2: You know? 1172 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 1: The first first story Jitter is I got to say, 1173 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 1: what's on my mind? What's too old to play drinking game? 1174 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 4: Apparently twenty six and twenty eight that's just too old. 1175 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 4: That's ridiculous. I mean they're geriatric to die. 1176 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 1: I say, you can play drinking like the men of 1177 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,360 Speaker 1: old played drinking and the women of old played drinking 1178 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 1: games well into their death. 1179 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 4: But Sam being a twenty eight year old, I mean 1180 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 4: in a nursery home trying to play drinking games. Like 1181 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 4: there's wheelchairs, a tiktac. 1182 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 2: Have you heard of Reddit? Actually my cousin. 1183 00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,440 Speaker 4: My cousin texted me and her mom was visiting her 1184 00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 4: in New York and she was like, my mom was 1185 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,479 Speaker 4: trying to explain your post podcast and then she was like. 1186 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 2: Oh wait, what's Reddit again? 1187 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,280 Speaker 4: She was like trying to explain the podcast, but then 1188 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 4: she did an explanation for Reddit. So she turned to 1189 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 4: my cousin and she was like, what's Reddit? 1190 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,480 Speaker 1: How do you describe what Reddit is? 1191 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 2: The Internet's front page? 1192 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 1: Dude, you're walking billboard. 1193 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 4: I read that the Actually I didn't interview him, but 1194 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,320 Speaker 4: I organized an interview with the co founder of Reddit. 1195 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 4: I could have been like, I could have been like, hey, 1196 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,520 Speaker 4: in four years, we're going to be one of the 1197 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,760 Speaker 4: biggest Reddit podcast planet Earth. Just you wait, yeah, that'll 1198 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 4: be our mind to show you. We we go back 1199 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,120 Speaker 4: in time and like confront the founder. Yeah, well, first 1200 00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 4: we have to convince my past self to make make 1201 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,040 Speaker 4: us the We should have started this earlier, honestly. 1202 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 2: We we really should have. 1203 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,160 Speaker 4: Honestly, we were doing sleeping whatever else we were doing, 1204 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 4: not Reddit podcasts. But Connor insisted, and Hunter and I 1205 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:54,920 Speaker 4: thought it would be fun to act like college students again, 1206 00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 4: so we joined in. We all got pretty wasted, and 1207 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 4: Connor had the idea of playing never have I. 1208 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Ever, big yike, playing never have I ever? With family? Uh, 1209 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:11,480 Speaker 1: genius is a recipe for divulging more than you should. 1210 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,560 Speaker 2: It's it's it's this recipe for success. 1211 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I accidentally, have you ever heard the game of fishball? 1212 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 2: No, I've never heard of fishball? 1213 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,440 Speaker 1: It's like charades, right for some reason, So like like 1214 01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 1: one of the so you play it's like charades, and 1215 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,160 Speaker 1: then you can like say anything but the word huh, right, 1216 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 1: and ari like, we were playing with my family and 1217 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,840 Speaker 1: Arianna was there and one of the words written like 1218 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,360 Speaker 1: there's pieces of paper. One of the words on the 1219 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:40,520 Speaker 1: paper was anal and Arian's clue for me to guess 1220 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 1: the word was what we did two weeks ago, and 1221 01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,080 Speaker 1: I guessed it without shame. 1222 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:50,520 Speaker 4: Dude, that that is the strongest power move I've literally. 1223 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 2: Ever heard in my entire life. 1224 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 1: Power bottom. 1225 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 2: Wow, dude, the power bottom for real. Dude. 1226 01:00:55,760 --> 01:01:00,240 Speaker 4: Guess guess guess who's asshole here? Ladies and John I know, dude, No, 1227 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:05,320 Speaker 4: not like pretentive, not the not the not the crowd, 1228 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,040 Speaker 4: not the crowd, not the crowd, you know, right, joke, 1229 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,600 Speaker 4: wrong crowd, you know what I mean? Yeah, amazing comedians 1230 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:15,120 Speaker 4: over here, actual event, anal explorers. 1231 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:16,800 Speaker 2: That can be one of our merch items. 1232 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,160 Speaker 1: Anal explorer, anal Explorers. 1233 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 2: To find the asshole. 1234 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 4: There we go, and we'll create a cartoondriving into assholes. 1235 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,920 Speaker 4: You think we're in this like plunging asteroids, asteroid like 1236 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:28,200 Speaker 4: cave asteroid. 1237 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,919 Speaker 2: Wow, that's good. Whoa, that's good. 1238 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:35,400 Speaker 4: Okay, we're launching ship all right, we'll save that mentally, 1239 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen on the podcast. 1240 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 1: If this doesn't get cut out, If this. 1241 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,800 Speaker 4: Doesn't get cut out, but maybe this little bit will 1242 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,280 Speaker 4: make it in, because yeah, after a few rounds in 1243 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 4: of this game, the statement never have I ever cheated 1244 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 4: before came up. Now is a good time to mention 1245 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:56,360 Speaker 4: that Hunter is staunchly against any kind of cheating. His 1246 01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:00,439 Speaker 4: ex fiance cheated on him ended emotionally wreck him. 1247 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I think most people should be against cheating. 1248 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 2: You know that. 1249 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 4: You know what, Sam, We're gonna we're gonna put our 1250 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:11,000 Speaker 4: flag in the sand. Yes, okay, we are against cheating 1251 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,120 Speaker 4: to get in. I don't care who cancels me. 1252 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,360 Speaker 1: I care a little bit. 1253 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:20,200 Speaker 4: Actually, literally everyone, I don't want to cancel me. Obama, 1254 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,520 Speaker 4: it's over, really canceled me because I am against cheating. 1255 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:28,080 Speaker 4: I'm bro Bill Clinton, He's like yeah, He's like he's 1256 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 4: like freaking uh like, uh, what's what's I. 1257 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,680 Speaker 1: Don't flag is on the other side of the world. Uh, 1258 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:38,600 Speaker 1: firmly in the cheating the cheating arena firm. Let's just say, 1259 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:43,120 Speaker 1: man who's planted a few of his flag maybe a 1260 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:44,200 Speaker 1: couple islands too. 1261 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:48,240 Speaker 4: And unfortunately, as a lot of dumb, immature seventeen year 1262 01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:52,640 Speaker 4: olds do, I cheated on my boyfriend of five months. 1263 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:54,960 Speaker 2: The worst had to do it. You know you are 1264 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,160 Speaker 2: the worst. He believe you. 1265 01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,000 Speaker 4: It was a stupid mistake. He found out and understandable 1266 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 4: ended things. But this was almost a decade ago. I've 1267 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,720 Speaker 4: obviously learned my lesson and I look back on that 1268 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,120 Speaker 4: time with shame, and I've obviously never cheated since. Once 1269 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 4: a cheater, always a cheat. But my brother knows about this, 1270 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 4: so when I didn't drink, he went, hey, Sis, what 1271 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,440 Speaker 4: the hell you know you cheated on X's name. You 1272 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:27,480 Speaker 4: would have to drink to that, Oh bro, brothers spilling 1273 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:33,320 Speaker 4: the bees literally like so bad, and like you're living dude, 1274 01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,560 Speaker 4: this is sticky, this is bad. 1275 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 1: Slid around in those beans. 1276 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 2: Dude, creamy, creamy beans. 1277 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 4: God, that's a barrel of nut juice just all over 1278 01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:47,880 Speaker 4: the floor, gravy. I am I would be impregnated with shame. 1279 01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,160 Speaker 4: Oh dude, yeah, I'm I'm I'm dragging my asshole like 1280 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,960 Speaker 4: a dog through that that bean juice, hoping to slurp 1281 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,160 Speaker 4: something up that. Ladies and gentlemen, is where we stopped 1282 01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,760 Speaker 4: the banter and go back to the story. This is 1283 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 4: for you podcast listeners. We love our podcast dude, honestly, everything. 1284 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,840 Speaker 4: Don't cut this, editors, because we we love you guys. 1285 01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 4: We are infiltrating, infiltrating your ear holes on probably a 1286 01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,520 Speaker 4: daily base, Daily base. I couldn't be more thrilled. I 1287 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:20,080 Speaker 4: am sexually thrilled by that thought, dude, very much. Yeah, 1288 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:25,919 Speaker 4: but you know who's not thrilled? Who Ope's fiance, right, 1289 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,240 Speaker 4: So I just to recap really quick. So basically all 1290 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 4: of them are playing and never have ever including Opiece fiancee, 1291 01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,720 Speaker 4: OPI and O piece brother they played never have I 1292 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,520 Speaker 4: had ever, Never have I ever cheated? She doesn't drink 1293 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,480 Speaker 4: brothers like you cheated. And now fiance heard and he's 1294 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:46,080 Speaker 4: super against cheating. So so we're about he's about to 1295 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:47,720 Speaker 4: be in some hot water. Yeah, dude, it is not 1296 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:49,480 Speaker 4: It's not going to be pretty. I can promise you that. 1297 01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:49,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1298 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,360 Speaker 4: Okay, hey it's John your og host here. We're gonna 1299 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:53,760 Speaker 4: get back to the stories. But here's a quick three 1300 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,960 Speaker 4: minute break of ass from we're sponsors. My boyfriend paused 1301 01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:59,520 Speaker 4: and looked at me. Oh no, I looked at him, 1302 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 4: and my boyfriend walked out of the room. Man is 1303 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:04,720 Speaker 4: very against cheating. 1304 01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,600 Speaker 1: He's out of here. Have you ever heard of like 1305 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:10,120 Speaker 1: the three second rule? He had sex for less than 1306 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:14,120 Speaker 1: three seconds. Yep, doesn't count as cheating, dude. Also, Mormons, 1307 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,080 Speaker 1: Mormons soaking soaking. If you soak, is it a stroke? 1308 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,640 Speaker 1: It isn't. As long as you're not stroking, then it 1309 01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 1: is soaking. 1310 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,919 Speaker 2: Wow, which is not sex. That is I mean, we've 1311 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 2: we've we've solved it. 1312 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,680 Speaker 4: We went from we were from the most anti cheaters 1313 01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,600 Speaker 4: possible to writing the playbook on how to cheat. No, 1314 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,880 Speaker 4: because it's not cheating right right, it's so it's more 1315 01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:38,520 Speaker 4: like a like a peepee hug. 1316 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:39,760 Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. 1317 01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,760 Speaker 4: You know, dude, sometimes sometimes your wiener just needs a 1318 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,360 Speaker 4: little yeah shaft. 1319 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:45,680 Speaker 5: You know. 1320 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,480 Speaker 1: You know, men need four hugs a day. Wow. 1321 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,800 Speaker 2: That's a lot of hugs, dude, three of which need 1322 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 2: to be wow. 1323 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:54,840 Speaker 1: Wow. 1324 01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,720 Speaker 4: When he stormed out of the room, I followed him 1325 01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,880 Speaker 4: and I tried to tell him it was a stupid 1326 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,720 Speaker 4: teenage mistake, but he wasn't having any of it. He 1327 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:09,120 Speaker 4: ended our relationship on the spot. Wow done, it's over. 1328 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,720 Speaker 2: Engaged. It's over. They're engaged for a game. He ended 1329 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,960 Speaker 2: it on the spot. It's over, dude. That's like that's 1330 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:17,800 Speaker 2: not really like. 1331 01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:24,360 Speaker 4: God damn. I mean like you know, like like hey, 1332 01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:28,360 Speaker 4: that that one is like a pretty pretty uh intense yeah, 1333 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,600 Speaker 4: because the context of it would be one thing. If 1334 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:32,800 Speaker 4: it was revealed in the game, like, oh, you're cheating 1335 01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:36,320 Speaker 4: right now on them? Yeah, that that is like way 1336 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,840 Speaker 4: more like okay, yeah, like I could totally see that, 1337 01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:42,120 Speaker 4: But this is like seventeen, ten years ago on a 1338 01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:43,600 Speaker 4: I mean people learned people. 1339 01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, like seventeen. I think I think that's not worth 1340 01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:48,760 Speaker 2: ending it on the spot. 1341 01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:53,320 Speaker 4: But I maybe maybe the issue is not the fact 1342 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:57,360 Speaker 4: that she cheated at seventeen, but more that when the 1343 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,640 Speaker 4: conversation of hey, have you ever cheated on a partner before? 1344 01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:01,760 Speaker 1: She never brought that up. 1345 01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,640 Speaker 4: Yes, we we don't know a thousand percent if, but 1346 01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,400 Speaker 4: the cheating conversation must have happened because. 1347 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:14,200 Speaker 1: She well yeah, and Op says, so that's the time 1348 01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,439 Speaker 1: he knows how much like he hates cheater. 1349 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, there there has to have been so, yeah, has to. 1350 01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 1: Have Yeah, there should have been an opportunity. Big yikes, dude, big. 1351 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,360 Speaker 2: Well, let's let's see it. Let's see how she's doing. 1352 01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:27,120 Speaker 2: I'm numb. 1353 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:31,160 Speaker 4: I'm heartbroken. He was my everything and more and I 1354 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,720 Speaker 4: still don't know how I'm going to move on. My 1355 01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 4: brother Connor tried to apologize, but I feel nothing but 1356 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:42,040 Speaker 4: sadness and emptiness. This morning, I served him in eviction. 1357 01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:46,320 Speaker 4: Notice the brother, the brother, he's out. I mean, he's gone. 1358 01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,120 Speaker 1: You ended this whole freaking thing. 1359 01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:49,600 Speaker 2: I mean it's pretty it's pretty rough. 1360 01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,760 Speaker 4: He begged me to stay and said he didn't mean 1361 01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,840 Speaker 4: to ruin my relationship, and he just didn't think when 1362 01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:56,720 Speaker 4: he said those words. 1363 01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,600 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not going to think about him not a viction. 1364 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,960 Speaker 4: Yeah about kicking yo. Yeah, after I raised him and 1365 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,480 Speaker 4: cared for him like he was my own. I feel 1366 01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,720 Speaker 4: so hurt. 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It's absolutely completely ft. But I truly 1404 01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:53,120 Speaker 4: do not think that Opie's brother observes no brothers. It's 1405 01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:56,160 Speaker 4: not his thought that she kept this from her fiance. 1406 01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:57,160 Speaker 2: That's a great point. 1407 01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,080 Speaker 4: I didn't even think about that because I mean, like, look, 1408 01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,080 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, he obviously shouldn't have 1409 01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,719 Speaker 4: blurted that out, but it was it was an accident, 1410 01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,320 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, I I will give 1411 01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:08,800 Speaker 4: him the past there. I understand why op he's like 1412 01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,880 Speaker 4: super upset, but I think it's way too much to 1413 01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,719 Speaker 4: kick him out, especially when he's like you know, already been. 1414 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:18,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think it is a lot to 1415 01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,240 Speaker 1: kick him out, and just especially it feels like it's 1416 01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:25,720 Speaker 1: Opie's fault honestly in terms of it fourth right with 1417 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,479 Speaker 1: her fiance, and like, I think that just goes generally 1418 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,599 Speaker 1: for keeping secrets. Ideally you're not living a double life ever, 1419 01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,479 Speaker 1: and even in small ways like my for better or 1420 01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:40,800 Speaker 1: for worse, my kind of philosophy has been to tell 1421 01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:44,240 Speaker 1: all people in all areas of my life essentially the 1422 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,519 Speaker 1: whole picture. Yeah, So, like things don't sneak up on me. Yeah, 1423 01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,040 Speaker 1: because then it's like, okay, if I'm just transparent with everyone, 1424 01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,519 Speaker 1: everyone knows who like sam is, it's true and there's 1425 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:58,280 Speaker 1: nothing podcast listeners my goodness, But like, did I did 1426 01:10:58,320 --> 01:10:59,960 Speaker 1: you tell her to tell you that story with patients. 1427 01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,439 Speaker 1: The two ex girlfriends ago. She never like we were 1428 01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:07,160 Speaker 1: living together, and she never told her parents. Interesting yeah 1429 01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,640 Speaker 1: her and I learned later that her parents were like 1430 01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:15,200 Speaker 1: very very religious and would have been like maybe not 1431 01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:19,320 Speaker 1: disown level, but if they found out, and like that's 1432 01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:23,240 Speaker 1: like that kind of double life is something that it's 1433 01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,880 Speaker 1: difficult on the partner because when it comes like then 1434 01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,519 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, if I slip up right like the 1435 01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,439 Speaker 1: like then I'm blamed, which I don't think she is, right. 1436 01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's this is a case 1437 01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:38,519 Speaker 4: of like oh, if OP had community, probably if OPI 1438 01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,880 Speaker 4: had communicated this in the right way, in the right setting, 1439 01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,240 Speaker 4: and all this stuff. Like I mean again, I think 1440 01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:47,320 Speaker 4: everyone kind of like overreacted in all the scenarios. Like again, 1441 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:51,120 Speaker 4: Hunter leaving it was ten years ago when she's seventeen. 1442 01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I think over yes, yes, overreaction on all accounts, 1443 01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,400 Speaker 1: on all I agree problem because like because then like 1444 01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:03,200 Speaker 1: it's Hunter too, because Hunters should not have left just 1445 01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,400 Speaker 1: because of that, in my opinion, like that that is. 1446 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,200 Speaker 4: I should have liked like just listened for more context. 1447 01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,400 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, like like do you really like are you 1448 01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,559 Speaker 4: really ready the end of relationship that quick over something like. 1449 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,600 Speaker 1: That, and you know what this comes up in us. 1450 01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,920 Speaker 1: Actually there was the story we did with the girl 1451 01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:25,360 Speaker 1: that saw this guy at the gas station. Yes, and 1452 01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,560 Speaker 1: left right and then like the op is just like 1453 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,320 Speaker 1: and just something snapped and she left and I don't like, 1454 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how she could, Like maybe it's left 1455 01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:35,040 Speaker 1: fst tight. I don't know how she left. All the 1456 01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,240 Speaker 1: comments were like, bro, like she was just looking for 1457 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:41,120 Speaker 1: an out. Yeah, you know, and like maybe OPI's fiance 1458 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,120 Speaker 1: same way, like he was just looking for an out. 1459 01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,080 Speaker 1: She kind of gave it to him. This was a 1460 01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,679 Speaker 1: time to just like get out of a relationship. Maybe 1461 01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,559 Speaker 1: he wasn't super passionate about right, Bro. People are crazy 1462 01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:54,080 Speaker 1: also really quick back to the patient story. Yes, they 1463 01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:57,759 Speaker 1: were so anti us being in the same living quarters 1464 01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,840 Speaker 1: together that they freaked out when they saw a picture 1465 01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:01,479 Speaker 1: of us camping. 1466 01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:05,000 Speaker 2: Yes, I know the people you're talking abou. Yeah. 1467 01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,640 Speaker 1: The dad was like, Dad was like, I'm gonna like, 1468 01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:11,639 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't believe he's flaunting that uh where 1469 01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,360 Speaker 1: he's having intercourse with my daughter, like by showing a 1470 01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:16,640 Speaker 1: picture of like I like. 1471 01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:18,479 Speaker 2: Them in a tent. 1472 01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:19,680 Speaker 4: It wasn't even a tent. 1473 01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:21,400 Speaker 2: It was outside the tent. It was just it was 1474 01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:25,840 Speaker 2: just like we're going camping, and uh, everyone knows what 1475 01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:26,960 Speaker 2: goes down in the tent. 1476 01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,519 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm not saying things didn't go down to the tent, 1477 01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,080 Speaker 1: but that was crazy. The main thing was that we're camping, 1478 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,840 Speaker 1: not that I'm doing anything with your daughter. 1479 01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 4: So though I was, wow, what what what an elaborate 1480 01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:45,400 Speaker 4: rouse you you decide to invent this camping? Camping? Just 1481 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:46,360 Speaker 4: display what. 1482 01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:47,760 Speaker 2: An evil mastermind? 1483 01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,200 Speaker 1: But no, it was so I can only imagine if 1484 01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:53,640 Speaker 1: they got mad about one day of camping. H how 1485 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,040 Speaker 1: about like a like a year of living in the 1486 01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,320 Speaker 1: same apartment. I always be honest, always be and that's 1487 01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:00,479 Speaker 1: why I have this to you. 1488 01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:00,880 Speaker 2: Guys. 1489 01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:06,200 Speaker 1: Wow, anyone's still listening to this god forsaken tale, I 1490 01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:08,800 Speaker 1: appreciate you. Yeah, And if you see me in the street, 1491 01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:14,080 Speaker 1: keep the ship to yourself. Don't yelling, don't yelling, say 1492 01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:15,120 Speaker 1: I say hi Hi. 1493 01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:17,880 Speaker 2: Don't be a connor. Don't be a conner. 1494 01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:21,040 Speaker 1: Don't be a connor, because this is the little family 1495 01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,840 Speaker 1: can now a little you know family, keep it we 1496 01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,759 Speaker 1: keep it in, keep it in the family. Arianna recently 1497 01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:29,880 Speaker 1: found out that we told personal stories on this podcast. Yeah, 1498 01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,120 Speaker 1: and she's like, I thought you guys just read like 1499 01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,120 Speaker 1: reddit stories, it like other people's lives. 1500 01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:35,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know you. 1501 01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:36,479 Speaker 2: Uh. 1502 01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,600 Speaker 1: And now she wants to listen to all the episodes 1503 01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,160 Speaker 1: to see, like, here we go what has been said? 1504 01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:42,640 Speaker 1: This is going to be interesting, and this is how 1505 01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:43,599 Speaker 1: we get one more listener. 1506 01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:47,400 Speaker 4: That's right, Yes, it's all a secret plot. Yeah, we've 1507 01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,000 Speaker 4: earned years year zero one more sense for listen, Lelly. 1508 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,160 Speaker 4: My girlfriend broke up with me, had a baby with 1509 01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:56,040 Speaker 4: another man. Now she's dying and wants me to adopt 1510 01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:56,400 Speaker 4: the kid. 1511 01:14:56,720 --> 01:15:03,720 Speaker 5: Okay, OPI but dumb, dumb but dumb, dumb but dumb, 1512 01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:09,080 Speaker 5: dumb but dum dumb dumb dumb. 1513 01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:15,400 Speaker 2: Storre storre store and. 1514 01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,799 Speaker 1: The crowd goes wild. That was That was John's nineteen 1515 01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,160 Speaker 1: sixties uh talk show. 1516 01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:25,559 Speaker 4: Wow, thank you so much, welcome back. My girlfriend broke 1517 01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,160 Speaker 4: up with me, had a baby with another man. Now 1518 01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:30,320 Speaker 4: she's dying and wants me to adopt the kid. 1519 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,400 Speaker 1: That is a roller coaster, But I want to strap 1520 01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,000 Speaker 1: in and get ready to go on the loop de loops. 1521 01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:37,640 Speaker 2: Not a situation I would want to be in. 1522 01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:39,680 Speaker 4: No, but I want to hear about it and live 1523 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,840 Speaker 4: vicariously throughout thes pain. I thirty one m met my 1524 01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:46,040 Speaker 4: ex girlfriend, twenty nine female on a dating app around 1525 01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,479 Speaker 4: seven years ago. She had a son just six months. 1526 01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,200 Speaker 4: All of the time she was with multiple guys and 1527 01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,840 Speaker 4: ended up pregnant, still not knowing who the biological father is. 1528 01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:58,360 Speaker 4: Ooh big oof ouch. But it wasn't that much of 1529 01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,840 Speaker 4: an issue to me because she seemed like a great 1530 01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,560 Speaker 4: person and we had a lot in common. After a 1531 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,920 Speaker 4: few weeks of chatting and talking online, we went on 1532 01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,040 Speaker 4: a first date and had a great time. After that, 1533 01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,840 Speaker 4: we just started hanging out whenever she could, and shortly 1534 01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,920 Speaker 4: after she introduced me to her son. A few months 1535 01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:17,120 Speaker 4: into our relationship, we moved in together to save money. Dude, 1536 01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:20,479 Speaker 4: you shouldn't move in with someone to save money if 1537 01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,080 Speaker 4: it's a romantic partner, because that's when things can go 1538 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,720 Speaker 4: buy it and a few months like that's not a 1539 01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:27,559 Speaker 4: lot of time. I started helping take care of her 1540 01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,000 Speaker 4: child whenever I could, and we really grew fond of 1541 01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,920 Speaker 4: each other, and he even started calling me Papa, and 1542 01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,840 Speaker 4: we just went along with it since my girlfriend didn't mind. Now, 1543 01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:40,200 Speaker 4: almost five years into our relationship. She told me that 1544 01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,840 Speaker 4: she wants to break up with me because I became 1545 01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,479 Speaker 4: boring and not an active person like I used to be. 1546 01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:50,160 Speaker 1: That hurts man, not even like, yeah, you know, I 1547 01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:52,760 Speaker 1: think our lives are just going in different directions, like 1548 01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:57,880 Speaker 1: you're boring and you're fat and ugly. 1549 01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:58,559 Speaker 2: And I a too. 1550 01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,000 Speaker 4: We used to go on hikes and travel around the 1551 01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:04,599 Speaker 4: country on weekends, so I obviously don't do that much anymore. 1552 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:06,840 Speaker 2: And she also said I work too much. 1553 01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:09,639 Speaker 4: You know the cherry on the cake, dah, I'm trying 1554 01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,280 Speaker 4: to provide for the family. It was a rough time 1555 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,479 Speaker 4: after that, and I had a hard time accepting it, 1556 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:17,040 Speaker 4: although not as hard as explaining to a five year 1557 01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:20,559 Speaker 4: old that he'll no longer be seeing as popable, oh bro. 1558 01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,800 Speaker 4: But I managed to get over it in a few months. 1559 01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,559 Speaker 4: I found a better job than allowed me to work remotely, 1560 01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:28,280 Speaker 4: and I had a lot of free time, so I 1561 01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,920 Speaker 4: actually ended up exploring a few other countries. 1562 01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:31,439 Speaker 2: Sick. 1563 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:35,360 Speaker 4: Sometimes you gotta drop the baggage to become a free man. 1564 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,639 Speaker 1: Don't check it in, just put it on. Carry on now. 1565 01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,719 Speaker 4: A few days ago, I got a call from my ex, 1566 01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:45,120 Speaker 4: so you know, time is passed Okay. She said that 1567 01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:48,760 Speaker 4: she is sick and in the hospital. She removed one 1568 01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:52,400 Speaker 4: of the tumors in her breast, but recently found another 1569 01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,200 Speaker 4: tumor in her other breast and she will need that 1570 01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,879 Speaker 4: removed as well. So like this is this is serious, 1571 01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,240 Speaker 4: serious stuff right here. Yeah, she is scared that she 1572 01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,320 Speaker 4: might die if it doesn't work out. Oh no, asked 1573 01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,120 Speaker 4: me if I'd be willing to become her son's legal 1574 01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,599 Speaker 4: guardian and adopt him since she has no one else 1575 01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:10,000 Speaker 4: to ask. 1576 01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:13,360 Speaker 2: Frick dude, that is such a tough ask. 1577 01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:17,439 Speaker 4: Now, as mentioned, I live a different lifestyle now, he's 1578 01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,200 Speaker 4: no longer boring because of her. 1579 01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:20,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he ain't got the time. 1580 01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:24,280 Speaker 4: I travel a lot. I invest in myself, So I 1581 01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:27,240 Speaker 4: told her that I can't do that. She told me 1582 01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,600 Speaker 4: that her son misses me and would love to see me, 1583 01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:33,599 Speaker 4: but I said no again, And after I said no again, 1584 01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:37,680 Speaker 4: she started crying, calling me names before just ending the call. Now, 1585 01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:39,640 Speaker 4: I talked to my sister and my parents about this, 1586 01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,400 Speaker 4: and they told me that it's an effed up thing 1587 01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:46,040 Speaker 4: to refuse after all those years that we spent together. 1588 01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:48,479 Speaker 2: I feel like trash now. 1589 01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,040 Speaker 4: So the question is am I the a hole for 1590 01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:56,240 Speaker 4: not wanting to adopt my dying ex girlfriend's child. 1591 01:18:56,560 --> 01:19:04,200 Speaker 1: Oh dude, frick Like, dude, this is so tough. I 1592 01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,960 Speaker 1: don't think he's an a hole for saying no. I 1593 01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:12,880 Speaker 1: mean like it's like it's not his problem necessarily. It's 1594 01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:14,920 Speaker 1: definitely not the nicest thing he could do. Like the 1595 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,519 Speaker 1: nicest thing he could do would be to adopt his 1596 01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:22,880 Speaker 1: ex girlfriends his dying ex girlfriend's kid. But like it's 1597 01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:26,639 Speaker 1: not his responsibility, right, Like he's he's not related by blood. 1598 01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:28,800 Speaker 1: He dated this girl for a couple of years, and 1599 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,200 Speaker 1: you know, the girl had a kid, but that doesn't 1600 01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,240 Speaker 1: mean that it's suddenly his kid. And also the girl 1601 01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:35,720 Speaker 1: broke up. 1602 01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,200 Speaker 4: With him exactly. Actually, there there was an interesting comment 1603 01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,600 Speaker 4: that I pulled in that in that regard. So this 1604 01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:45,400 Speaker 4: is from Unpopular Kryptonite. Great handle there, Oh I actually 1605 01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:49,040 Speaker 4: got some kryptonite right here. Uh oh, but yeah, that 1606 01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:53,960 Speaker 4: is right there, Crystal. I've been crystaled. I'm a Crystal boy. 1607 01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,400 Speaker 4: Now do Crystal say in sports sports? Crystal sport boys? 1608 01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,040 Speaker 4: So on popular crypt and I says, not the a 1609 01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,519 Speaker 4: whole don't do it. The kid doesn't remember you. It's 1610 01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,040 Speaker 4: been two years. She can ask one of the more 1611 01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:09,200 Speaker 4: interesting excess to adopt her since you. 1612 01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:10,200 Speaker 2: Were so boring. 1613 01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,280 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, you know, I totally forgot how mean she 1614 01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:15,960 Speaker 4: was when she broke up with her exactly. 1615 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. That's the thing is like she's like, you're so boring, 1616 01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:24,759 Speaker 2: Like I ask one of your more savage super savage. 1617 01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean in the end, although really quick, 1618 01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,760 Speaker 1: I don't like if you want an empathetic answer, the 1619 01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:33,120 Speaker 1: reddit comments. 1620 01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,280 Speaker 2: Are the worst place, you know, if you want to 1621 01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,120 Speaker 2: go there for the empathy, like you're. 1622 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,280 Speaker 1: You're not Like, if you want to become a better person, 1623 01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,800 Speaker 1: just just don't take the advice of reddit comments. Reddit 1624 01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:46,360 Speaker 1: comments are like that that girl is you know, crazy 1625 01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:52,000 Speaker 1: or she's a completely b But you know, we were 1626 01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,080 Speaker 1: out here trying to be mother Teresa. We're so you know, 1627 01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,400 Speaker 1: we're trying to be better humans. I have a little 1628 01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,600 Speaker 1: sugar to your side, you know what I mean? Like 1629 01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,439 Speaker 1: I had an ex girlfriend of like three years. She 1630 01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,479 Speaker 1: has a couple of sisters or like like what no, 1631 01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:06,080 Speaker 1: four or five years ago? 1632 01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,200 Speaker 2: Like you dated her for four or five years. 1633 01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:10,840 Speaker 4: So I did her for two years and it ended 1634 01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:11,680 Speaker 4: like four or five years ago. 1635 01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:12,400 Speaker 2: Okay, got it? Got it? 1636 01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:16,320 Speaker 4: If she suddenly said Sam, I'm dying, Can you adopt 1637 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:22,200 Speaker 4: my sister? I'll be like, Bro, you broke up with me. Yeah, 1638 01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:27,040 Speaker 4: it's I don't think I'm like, uh no, I you 1639 01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:31,400 Speaker 4: know that I've moved on. I'm living my life. I 1640 01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:32,679 Speaker 4: got other things to worry about. 1641 01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:33,040 Speaker 2: I think. 1642 01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:36,240 Speaker 4: I think that's like basically, if you break up with someone, 1643 01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,720 Speaker 4: it's an opt out for their family essentially, Like you're 1644 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,439 Speaker 4: basically saying like, I don't want you in my life, Like, yeah, 1645 01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:44,639 Speaker 4: I don't want you in my family, I don't want 1646 01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,080 Speaker 4: you in my life. Go in my family's life. Yeah, 1647 01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,160 Speaker 4: And you can't just like say like hey, you know, 1648 01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:51,320 Speaker 4: like whenever you when you need something for someone else, 1649 01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:52,840 Speaker 4: if you're in your family, just like hey, like I 1650 01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:53,400 Speaker 4: need your help. 1651 01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:55,160 Speaker 2: Like that's not how it works. No, No, it's like, 1652 01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,200 Speaker 2: oh he really wanted to that's fine. But yeah. 1653 01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:01,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I think it's okay for her to ask, 1654 01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,080 Speaker 1: that's a fair Yeah, but I don't think it's Op's 1655 01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:10,080 Speaker 1: responsibility to say yes yes or to guilt trip him. Yeah. Yeah, 1656 01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,360 Speaker 1: but you know what, it is okay to guilt trip you. 1657 01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,320 Speaker 2: You know what you should trip on that subscribe. 1658 01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:20,560 Speaker 1: Button baby and that follow button on Spotify and no 1659 01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:24,080 Speaker 1: Tick Dog and support us a Patreon too, with Kathy Quickly, 1660 01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:24,880 Speaker 1: Kathy Quickly. 1661 01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:28,479 Speaker 4: We love you, Kathy. We'll see you next time, See 1662 01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:28,920 Speaker 4: you next time.