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Speaker 1: Hey, Girlfriends, just a heads up. In this episode you'll

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Speaker 1: hear themes of violence, murder, and of course me swearing

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Speaker 1: at times. So not much has changed, has it?

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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Speaker 1: Carol, you know why are you calling me on a

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Speaker 1: random Wednesday morning?

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Okay, look, don't shoot me, but I think I want

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Speaker 3: you to investigate another cold case.

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Speaker 1: What we must have a bad connection.

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Speaker 3: I better hang up.

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Speaker 1: You know that moment when someone comes into your life

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Speaker 1: and you know it's never going to be the same again.

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Speaker 1: The first time that happened to me was when I

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Speaker 1: met a guy named Bob who I saw it was

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Speaker 1: a total catch, but he turned out to be a

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Speaker 1: fucking asshole.

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Speaker 2: Who murdered his first wife, Gail Katz.

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Speaker 1: Listen to the first series of The Girlfriends if you

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Speaker 1: want to hear that story. The second time someone turned

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Speaker 1: my life upside down was when this adore British woman

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Speaker 1: randomly called me. She asked me to make a podcast

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Speaker 1: about how myself and a group of incredible women investigated

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Speaker 1: what happened to Gayle and Well, I just couldn't say

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Speaker 1: no to her, so my producer, Anna became like one

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Speaker 1: of the family. My new surrogate daughter and within a

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Speaker 1: few months of meeting, she flew out to stay with

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Speaker 1: me in Las Vegas, where I said her constantly like

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Speaker 1: the good Jewish mother, I am, Oh, my god, I.

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Speaker 2: Know my guests. I took Anna to meet my mom

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Speaker 2: who loved her. Did people tell you how beautiful you are? Huh?

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Speaker 3: Your hair?

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Speaker 2: Your face? I mean your skin show off? And she

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Speaker 2: met my friends.

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Speaker 3: I have no children, you kid be my daughter.

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Speaker 1: Together we turned my tragic dating history into the number

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Speaker 1: one podcast in six countries. Deal turns out Anna's not

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Speaker 1: finished with me yet. There's one mystery from the first

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Speaker 1: series that we never managed to solve. Our lost sister,

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Speaker 1: the woman who's torso washed up on Staten Island and

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Speaker 1: was buried in Gail's grave for nearly a decade, that is,

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Speaker 1: until it was discovered that her body did not belong

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Speaker 1: to Gailcats. What's her name and more importantly, what's her story?

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Speaker 2: People want answers.

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Speaker 1: I've received so many emails, comments and calls.

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Speaker 2: What's this about the torso?

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Speaker 1: This is a loose end for this poor woman who

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Speaker 1: never was identified.

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Speaker 3: Whose torso is it?

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Speaker 1: Who is this victim?

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Speaker 2: And what's being done to try to identify her?

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Speaker 1: And see justice. But I have to admit I'm worried.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we spent a year working night and day

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Speaker 1: and what if we still can't? But what if we

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Speaker 1: don't try. I feel like if we don't do this,

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Speaker 1: nobody's going to try, and we're the only ones left.

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Speaker 1: And if anyone can do it, we can. The girlfriends God,

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Speaker 1: and that's how she gets me. She always lures me

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Speaker 1: back in. But I'm right, you know, I'm really right.

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Speaker 1: This is going to be really hard. But luckily it's

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Speaker 1: not just me and Anna. We have the whole Girlfriend's

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Speaker 1: gang to help us solve this case. There's Gail's sister, Elaine.

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Speaker 2: You killed my.

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Speaker 3: Sister and I know you think you got away with it,

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Speaker 2: And there's my dear friend Mindy.

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Speaker 1: I hope that we can make something positive out of this,

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Speaker 1: and between us, Me, Mindy, Elaine, Anna, we don't just

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Speaker 2: We want to make a difference.

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Speaker 1: We want to show way every woman's story matters. But

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Speaker 1: if we're going to do this, we need your help too,

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Speaker 1: So listen up, get your pen and paper out.

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Speaker 2: This is all we.

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Speaker 1: Know so far about the woman we're trying to identify.

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Speaker 1: On May twenty one, nineteen eighty nine, her torso washed

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Speaker 1: the water for two to three months, and DNA testing

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Speaker 1: X rays that showed similarities between the.

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Speaker 3: Two that sufficiently allowed them to change Jane Doe Torso

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Speaker 3: on the death certificate to Galkat Spirimb.

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Speaker 1: She was then buried in the Cat's family plot in Queens.

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Speaker 3: And finally I felt that I I found my sister

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Speaker 2: But that's not the end of the story.

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Speaker 1: In the summer of nineteen ninety eight, the Manhattan District

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Speaker 1: Attorney's office exhumed the body from Gail's grave for DNA testing.

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Speaker 3: And they said to me, the torso is not Gail.

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Speaker 3: And after a string of curses, I said to them,

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Speaker 1: Then the torso seemingly vanishes. No one from Gail's case

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Speaker 1: knows what happened to her. So if the torso is

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Speaker 1: not Gail Cat's Berenbaum, then who is she and where

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Speaker 1: did she go? Told you it wasn't going to be easy,

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Speaker 1: and that's why, dear girlfriends, we need your help, because

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Speaker 1: we know that we are stronger together. Last series, by

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Speaker 1: just passing the podcast between each other, you helped over

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Speaker 1: fifteen hundred people connect with our charity Partner No More

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Speaker 1: and get potentially life saving advice regarding intimate partner violence.

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Speaker 2: So let's do it again. Let's work together.

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Speaker 1: If you have any leads, ideas, or suggestion for how

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Speaker 1: we can solve this thirty five year old gold case,

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Speaker 1: how we can identify this missing woman, our lost girlfriend,

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Speaker 1: please please email us at the Girlfriends at novel dot Audio,

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