1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Wednesday edition for those of 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: us who celebrate it is in caa tournament leeve eve. 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: I still don't count to play in games as a 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: significant part of tournament. But we have got a lot 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: to discuss with all of you border chaos. What are 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: the courts going to do, what is Texas able to do? 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: What are the shifting realities of those court decisions? Where 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: are they going to lead us? And what is the 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: impact going to be? We will discuss that because it's 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: a mess. But this is like you, you might as 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: well get a civil procedure degree to even understand what's 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: going on right now in the court system. 14 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: Well, I'm generally very focused on the news play, but 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: today I'm just really unable to take my mind away 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: from this March Madness bracket situation, and I can come 17 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: to the astute conclusion that Yale is not going all 18 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: the There's no way those nerds are going to win 19 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: the whole thing. 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: So there Gale's going to lose to Auburn in round one. 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: That's a student analysis by you giving giving everybody a 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: pick for their brackets. 23 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: Right off the top. 24 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: I believe I'm correct that Auburn is playing Yale, and 25 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: Yale of course won the Ivy League in a crazy comeback. 26 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: I can't remember who they beat, but I'm sure some 27 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: of you know, and and so yeah, it's in caa 28 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: tournament bracket challenge, eve a lot of people filling it out. 29 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: We got the Travis Family Bracket Challenge. Sixteen year old, 30 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: thirteen year old, nine year old all getting involved, as 31 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: well as Katie, who is my assistant that runs around 32 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: and makes the world kind of work here in the 33 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: in the Travis household. So we are all having a 34 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: family competition and for. 35 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 3: A lot of people. 36 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: By the way, we're also going to be joined today 37 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: by North Carolina governatorial candidate Mark Robinson. You know that 38 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: he's over the target because he has been getting attacked 39 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: like crazy. He is the Republican nominee running for an 40 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: open seat governorship in a state buck that according to 41 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: the data. I know, I've been optimistic about Georgia flipping 42 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: back to the Red team. 43 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty four. 44 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: There's a lot of polling out there, and even I 45 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: read an article in the New York Times recently saying 46 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: that they should stop focusing their spending in a big way. 47 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: Democrats should on Georgia because they feel like they're going 48 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: to lose Georgia, but that North Carolina a flip, there 49 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: might be a better opportunity. That was a big, I 50 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: don't know, probably fifteen hundred word piece that I read. 51 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: In the New York Times recently. 52 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: And the polling actually might reflect that to some degree, 53 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: because Trump is pulling away in many of the polls 54 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: that are coming out of Georgia, but North Carolina is 55 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: remaining stubbornly very close as it was in twenty twenty. 56 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: So we will we'll be talking about that and the 57 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: battleground that is North Carolina and that governor's race. And 58 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: then at two o'clock, the Attorney General of Virginia, Jason Miarz, 59 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: is going to join us. He's filed a lawsuit against 60 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: the NCAA, but also Virginia. How much in play is 61 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: the state of Virginia. What is the impact of Glenn 62 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: Youngkin's first term there. We will discuss all of that 63 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: with those guests. So we got one thirty and two 64 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: o'clock Eastern guests. But I want to start with this bucket. 65 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: It's a little bit of a maybe a different direction, 66 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: but I think it ties in with so much of 67 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: what's going on right now in the country. And I 68 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: saw this this morning. Both the New York Times and 69 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal wrote about it. There is a 70 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: ranking of top twenty five countries by happiness, basically how do. 71 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: People consider themselves? 72 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: And I thought, we talked to Abigail Schreier earlier in 73 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: the week, the United States happiness is collapsing to the 74 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: extent that life liberty to pursuit of happiness is a 75 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: by nature, I think target of this country. The fact 76 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: that the United States would now be twenty third overall 77 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: in happiness ranking, that is below the Slovenia, the United 78 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: Arab Emirates, below the Czech Republic, Lithuania, Costa Rica, Kuwait, Austria. 79 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 3: I mean a lot of. 80 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: These countries that are ostensibly happier than us are not 81 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: necessarily even anywhere near the geopolitical stratosphere that we are right, 82 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: They don't have the economic wealth. And when you dive 83 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: into the numbers, buck it actually even gets more interesting. 84 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: And I'm curious for all of you out there listening 85 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: what your theories would be. I would actually like to 86 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: hear your theory, Buck, I mean, you can blow us 87 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: up at Clay and Buck at Clay Travis, at Buck Sexton, 88 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: because I think this is such an interesting question. The 89 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: reason why the United States has a happiness deficit, as 90 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: it were, is not because of people sixty and older. 91 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: They are, according to this study, the eleventh happiest in 92 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: the entire world. 93 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 3: So it's not crazy. 94 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: If you're over sixty and a lot of you are 95 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: listening to us right now, you tend to be fairly happy. 96 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: But what's going on here is if you're under thirty, 97 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: so your kids, your grandkids, if you're on the younger 98 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: age of listenership for this radio program or you listening 99 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: on the podcast, you rank sixty second. And that's the 100 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: biggest gap in any country, Buck, in the world right 101 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: now between people over sixty and people under thirty. 102 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: What's going on? 103 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 2: So this is where my generally salty demeanor I think 104 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 2: works in America's favor because the things that really generally 105 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 2: gauge happiness are ambition and expectation. Right, for a lot 106 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: of people, at least, ambition and expectation, what do you 107 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 2: want for your life now? If you've been raised to 108 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 2: just want to go as part of the system and 109 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: have your you know, your vacation and your time off, 110 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: and you know, you don't want to really be in. 111 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 3: The fight in any meaningful way. 112 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 2: You want to live in Finland, okay, you want to 113 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 2: live in some of these places where you have not 114 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: socialism per se, but a huge welfare state and very 115 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: high taxation. Where you have and I'll also point out 116 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: these countries. It's not very well known, but even a 117 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: country like Sweden, which where is that on this Yeah, 118 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: Sweden's very you know, for overall, Sweden's very high. Sweden 119 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: was very socialist, I think in through the seventies into 120 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: the eighties, and then it started becoming a free market 121 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: economy or much more of a free market economy. And 122 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: now it's just as high taxation and a very large 123 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: again very large not just welfare state but state services. Right, 124 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 2: but the economy doesn't function as an actual socialist. 125 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: State at all. 126 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: But you look at these countries and you know they're 127 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 2: not changing the world. Individuals in them are not you 128 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 2: the world. We grow up in a society now where 129 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: everybody is being constantly and this is why I think 130 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: the under thirty happiness to address this issue. Is so 131 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: low for America right now. Yeah, that's the key, I 132 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: think again, because I think people that are older have 133 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: more perspective on America still kicks ass. Like we talked 134 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 2: about the problems here, but America is actually still number one. 135 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: And I'd also point out what happens to Finlam without America. 136 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: They start speaking a lot of Russian everybody, okay, a 137 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: lot of these other countries without us. 138 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: Without you know, you. 139 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: Who listen to this, who have served your country and 140 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: the armed forces, or or you know will serve in 141 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: the armed forces, depending how old you are, these other 142 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: countries can't even exist in their little changri law. You know, 143 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: they're Nirvana of Oh college is paid for, healthcare is 144 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: paid for. Yeah, that's because what are you spending on 145 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: your defense? But put all that aside, Clay, And just 146 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: to get us back into the focus here, which is 147 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: the under thirties in America. Yeah, under thirties are unhappy 148 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: because we are constantly now bombarded with not just excellence 149 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: within America, but global excellence. Because I do think social 150 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: media plays a big role in this. We are constantly 151 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: being compared to the richest, best athlete, best looking best 152 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: entrepreneur go down the list in the world in America 153 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: because we have such a concentration of them here in America, 154 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: but also in some other places. And I think that 155 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: that's where people have lost a bit of context and 156 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: don't understand that. You know, I've been in some really 157 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: crappy countries for long stretches of time. If you do that, 158 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: you really start to realize how amazing this place is. 159 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: My theory is maybe a little bit different. 160 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: I do think social media plays in I think that 161 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: if you're under thirty in this country, you've been conditioned 162 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: with the idea that America is a profoundly racist. 163 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: And force for evil. 164 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: And if you see the overall decline in religious rates, 165 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: and you've hit on this too, that climate change is 166 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: a religion for people who don't believe in religion. I 167 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: think that wokeism is a religion for people that don't 168 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: believe in religion. 169 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: And if you are constantly. 170 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: Being marinated in the idea that because America had slavery 171 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: in eighteen sixty, you can never atone for the ills 172 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: of this country, and if you're not being taught about 173 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: the true history of the nation. What stands out to 174 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: me is not necessarily that young people are unhappy. It's 175 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,359 Speaker 1: why is the gap between young and old in America 176 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: higher than any country in the world right now? And 177 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: I think it's because if you're over sixty, you were 178 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: raised in America is a force for good. Look at 179 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: what we did in World War Two, look at the 180 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: overall history of America. You live through the Civil rights movement, 181 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: You've seen America, I think, be a force innately for good. 182 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: And people who are young have no real struggles, right 183 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: They didn't get drafted to fight in Vietnam. They have 184 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: and I'm talking about real life struggles. They haven't had 185 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: to go fight the Nazis, they haven't dealt with the 186 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: Great Depression, and they are buying into this idea. 187 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:13,359 Speaker 3: I think social. 188 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: Media works in on it, but that America is not 189 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: a force for good. And with an absence of religion, 190 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: to your point on ambition and what you strive for, 191 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: they're profoundly lost and there's a void that is being 192 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: filled by things that are making them less happy. And 193 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: I think a lot of them buck. This is why 194 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: I thought our conversation with Isabelle Brown yesterday was so 195 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: interesting because I see it in my own kids. A 196 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: lot of them are aware that what they're being told 197 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: is not true and that it's not working for them, 198 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: and they're desperately seeking answers and they don't know how 199 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: to find them. Does that make sense. It's not uncommon 200 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: for young people. I think it's worse for them psychologically 201 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: today than it might have been for other generations. 202 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: I think every generation of young people thinks that they're 203 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: you know, go back. I mean, if you talk about 204 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: our parents' generation of the sixties and the seventies, oh man, 205 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 2: you know, the world was so bleak and the oil 206 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 2: embargo and no, but. 207 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: They thought they were forces for good. In the Baby boomers, right, 208 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 3: the Baby. 209 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: Boomers are the most self entitled, like obsessed generation, in 210 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: my opinion, that believes that they made the world a 211 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: better place. 212 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: Like does you're. 213 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: Talking about Americans? And I don't think I don't think 214 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: that the Baby Boom American generation thought that. I think 215 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: that they were riddled with a lot of guilt over 216 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: Vietnam and. 217 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: You know, anyway, but I feel like a lot of 218 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: them stood up and felt like they were engaged. I 219 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: don't know that people under the age of thirty feel 220 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: like they really are involved in the choices that are 221 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: being made in the I don't know there is one answer. 222 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: I'm curious for people out there listening. The gap that 223 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: doesn't exist anywhere else in the world is certainly there, 224 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,599 Speaker 1: and it's open and right for explanation. 225 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: America, Germany, New Zealand, Canada are the countries that all 226 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: have really low numbers in the under thirty index. Now 227 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: far be it for me to be able to analyze 228 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: the contemporary German psyche like I don't know, you know, 229 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on over there. Like every 230 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: German I've met, you know, they're nice people, but I 231 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: don't know what they're thinking. But in terms of Canada 232 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: and the US, I mean I do think that this 233 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: is uh. Look, there are some things. We do have 234 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: a structural debt problem. We have had the massive transfer 235 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 2: of wealth from young too old, but which is still occurring. 236 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: And people don't like this, but that is what entitlements 237 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: actually are. People say, I pay into them, will you 238 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: take out twice what you put into them over the 239 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: course of your earnings on average, So you're actually burdening 240 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,599 Speaker 2: future generations with and you know, just like when we 241 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: hopefully if medicare is still there for us. We'll see 242 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: what ends up happening. But I think that's part of it. Clay, 243 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,599 Speaker 2: and I also think that people, yes, there's an ideology 244 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: of wokeness is about yesterday was telling us that a 245 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: lot of gen z are not woke. 246 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean, or that some of them 247 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: are rejecting it. 248 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm everyone I meet under thirty like 249 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: lives in an alternate universe. 250 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 3: Except for the ones who listened to this show. Thank 251 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: you very much, we appreciate you. 252 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: But everybody else who's in that generation, I think, to 253 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 2: be fair, how much interaction do we. 254 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 1: Really have with people under thirty on a day to 255 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: day basis? I mean, I you know, yeah, I don't. 256 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 3: Know about your I don't know about your world. 257 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: I just see them on TikTok and social media stuff 258 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, so they know nothing. 259 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm around my kids. But yes, yeah, you have. 260 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: You have a much better. 261 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: Line into you like you understand, like you know what 262 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 2: what high school kids are thinking about. I don't know anything, 263 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: but I will say this also, and I hot tip 264 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 2: my friend David Harsanyi, who wrote a book about this. 265 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: You know, people will say all They're like, oh, it's 266 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: so great. You know, everyone has a grass is Greener 267 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: phenomenon with other countries. I mean, you know, and have 268 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 2: you ever been to Sweden. I'm just gonna tell you, Yeah, Sweden, 269 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 2: nice people whatever. Go to Sweden in January and tell 270 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 2: me that you want to live there. That's what I 271 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: was in Sweden and January. There's a lot of stuff 272 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: about this that. And go there and try to start 273 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: a business, go there and try to do something that 274 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: really changes the world. You know that the if England, 275 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: this is what I was saying about to Harsanyi's point, 276 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 2: if England were a US state, play it would be 277 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: the poorest state per capita in the United States. It 278 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 2: would be poorer than Mississippi. No offense to Mississippi, but 279 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 2: I'm just saying it would be the poorest state in 280 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: the Union. And yet we think of the English as 281 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: fancy and having free healthcare. No, actually they're kind of 282 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: beaten down by an enormous state in the National Health Service. 283 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: And so you know, part of this is with age 284 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: comes wisdom and I can't believe i'mending this. 285 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 3: This clays older than Jamas. We know by many years ago. 286 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: I guess he has something. I will say this too 287 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: as we go to break here. Here are the two 288 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: countries that under thirty year olds are the most happy, 289 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: in Lithuania and Israel. How many American under thirties would 290 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: like to live in Lithuania. I'm just raising it as 291 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: an issue. Like everything, to your point, is a relative. 292 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: One of my favorite stats is if you're one of 293 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: the poorest in I think ten percent in America, you 294 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: would be one of the twenty percent wealthiest in it 295 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: in India. So I don't know it's about money, but 296 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: it's certainly not understanding economics factor. 297 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: If you're twenty five in Lithuania, you're still hearing stories 298 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: from your parents about standing in breadlines when it was 299 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: the Soviet Union. So I totally get why Lithuania is 300 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: so happy in that age group. But there's very clear 301 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: reasons for that, because it is as I said, it's 302 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: about expectation and ambition. What do you think about your 303 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: situation compared to other relevant situations. By the way, it's 304 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: also part of the anatomy of a revolution. For example, 305 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: it's not that people are so poor. There are a 306 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: lot of poor countries where there's no revolutions. Revolution comes. Well, 307 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 2: there's a number of things, but one of them is 308 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: when people think that their expectations are being unmet by 309 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: their society and by the state. So a lot of 310 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: it is, you know, Clay, you want to be happy, 311 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: lower your expectations. There you go, that's quite a bumper sticker. 312 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: That's why my wife is so happy in our marriage. 313 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 3: Oh boy, but whoa crime rates? My friends, crime rates 314 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: are bad. They're way up. 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One is, you know, Clay, you see 334 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: that now they're gonna get another another swing at the 335 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: UH situation in Atlanta. It seems they're gonna be able 336 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: to take another look at the Fannie willis not excused 337 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: or you know, expelled from the trial as the DA. 338 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: So I think we should dive into that. A good 339 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: idea here and what that can well, thank you sir, 340 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: ye what that could mean? And uh Clay is giving 341 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 2: me no of approval? Yes, yes, I'm fired up about 342 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: this case still. I mean, she has to look, she 343 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 2: has to go. It's an absolute outrage that she has 344 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: not been removed from this trial. We'll discuss that and 345 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 2: then later on we'll dive into the the federal court 346 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 2: saying Texas canon force what is an sp for? 347 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 3: And then know it can enforce it? And yes it can. 348 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: And now it's going up, and it's gonna eventually go 349 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 2: to the Supreme Court, and it's a mess. 350 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 3: So we'll talk about that. 351 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: If you are a kid listening to us right now, 352 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: I would have never believed that I would spend my 353 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: law degree talking. 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When you get it, you'll get sixty percent off. 374 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: Use our names Clay and Buck as the code clayanbuckmipillow 375 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: dot com play Travis Buck Sexton show. All right, Buck, 376 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: you raised what I think is an important story going 377 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: on down in Atlanta. The thirty four year old judge 378 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: McAfee I believe is his name, who basically did a 379 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: split the Baby ruling, and you were on Friday, I believe, 380 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: when this ruling came down. But as soon as he 381 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: dismissed six counts, we had that conversation and I said, 382 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: he's going to give her a pass. This is the 383 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: split the Baby thing. They forced Nathan Wade to be fired, 384 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: but Fanny Willis got to keep her job. And now 385 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: his ruling, which was actually devastating if you read it 386 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: to Fanny Willis, even though the result wasn't what it 387 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: should have been, He's now allowed his ruling to be appealed, 388 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: which to me, Buck is a sign that he's expecting 389 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: maybe for somebody else to be the guillotine here, to 390 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: be the people that actually come out and say no, 391 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: you can't be involved in this case. 392 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 3: And he's trying to preserve his political viability. 393 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: As let's be fair, a white guy who's a judge 394 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: sitting in judgment of a prominent black woman, it shouldn't 395 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: be a factor. But in a city like Atlanta, I 396 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: guarantee you it is. And this guy, by the way 397 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: McAfee I did. But once of reading on him Republican 398 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: like he has been involved in Republican politics in the past. 399 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: I think he's smart. But I think he gave us 400 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 3: a ruling that was not what he. 401 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: Actually believes should happen, but what he thought was politically 402 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: expedient for his career. And I think that Fanny Willis 403 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: on appeal is going to be removed and or I 404 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: think she's going to be prosecuted for lying under oath. 405 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean I shouldn't say absolutely, she will not 406 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 2: be prosecuted. That will not happen, all right, I think 407 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 2: she'll be charged. 408 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 3: We have to have another vet. You're so disgusted that 409 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 3: I have any faith at all in the tudicial system. 410 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 3: They're going to a cute, the the uh, the the black. 411 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,239 Speaker 2: Female district attorney who was prosecuting Donald Trump. I think 412 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 2: there's almost no chance, but I love that you still 413 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 2: believe that justice is real in this country. So we 414 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 2: can we will Uh, we'll do a dessert. Okay, whoever, 415 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 2: because you're already buy me, or rather we already have 416 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: a stake. Bet will be desert on top of that, 417 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 2: or maybe after dinner drinks we'll get some expense at 418 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: tequila shots. What I wanted to say though, about what's 419 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 2: going on here is, uh, this is the perfect move 420 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: for McAfee, right, because we all know he didn't want 421 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 2: to He didn't want to do this because if he 422 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 2: took her off the case, he'd have to deal with 423 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: the consequences and he has to run for reelection. He's 424 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 2: a judge who wants to keep his job. But by 425 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: pushing it to the appeals court, he can he can 426 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: wash his hands of the situation. In effect, that's why 427 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 2: we can say, oh, I'm I'm not the one that 428 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: got rid of Fannie Willis from this from this trial, 429 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: by the way, honest question, have we is it Fanny 430 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: or Fannie? 431 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 3: Do we do we? He says it's Fannie. 432 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I can see why if your name should 433 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: be pronounced Fanny, that you would say it's Fawnie. Right, 434 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: So so she is, But I'm calling her Fanny because 435 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: I don't think she deserves to have the name pronounced differently, 436 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: because I think she's shown her ass to the country. 437 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: So okay, so miss Fanny, uh Fani, Look what you 438 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 2: just did, Clay, Miss Fannie, Miss Fannie willis she is 439 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 2: I think probably going to although I don't know. I 440 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 2: think she'll probably stay depends on what the appeals court 441 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: looks like. I mean, who appointed them and what kind 442 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 2: of judges. But I'm guessing she's probably gonna manage to 443 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 2: stay on it. But if she doesn't, at least now 444 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 2: Judge McAfee will say I'm not the one who took 445 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: her off, so he escapes the political consequences of removing 446 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 2: a black female district attorney who was prosecuting Donald Trump. 447 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 2: Who is you know, if you're a Democrat, worse than Hitler. 448 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: So that that's how I think this plays out. But 449 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 2: the fact that it's even gotten to this point, I mean, 450 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: it's it's the bigger issue is not is not for 451 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 2: me so much, just the the relationship with the subordinate 452 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: and the money is that she clearly lied to everybody 453 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 2: on the stand. 454 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 3: Right. I agree she she. 455 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 2: Did not make multiple thousands of dollars of cash reimbursement 456 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: payments to Nathan Wade that did not happen. Okay, she 457 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: can't prove that it happened. I can't, you know, but 458 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 2: we all know that didn't happen. All right, So she's 459 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 2: asking us all to act like we're a. 460 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 3: Bunch of idiots. 461 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: How many how many people go on a trip Clay 462 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 2: as you as you pointed out with their the person 463 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: you know, they're they're paramore, you know the person they're 464 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: they're getting things, are you know, getting frisky with and uh, 465 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: and decide that they're gonna say, you know what, not 466 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: only do I want you to I want you to 467 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,479 Speaker 2: bypass the whole banking system and just give me a 468 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 2: brown bag full of one hundred dollars bills for half 469 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 2: of this trip. Bull crap. 470 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: No, this is this is why I think it's so 471 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: funny the argument, because when you really break it down, 472 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: you're on a beautiful beach vacation with some good looking 473 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: chick that you're super excited to be on a vacation 474 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: with she's packed twenty bikinis. You're having your alcoholic drink 475 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: chilling by the pool. She's walking around in that bikini. 476 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: You think she looks amazing, and you turn over to 477 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: her and you're like, baby, I'm gonna need to give you. 478 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: Didn't give me a stack one hundred dollars bills to 479 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: cover your half of this trip. 480 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 3: It didn't happen. 481 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: But what I think she's actually easier to prove because cash. 482 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: This is why you know, this is why they said 483 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: that right, because hard to prove where cash goes. I 484 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: think the thing that she's actually dead to rights on 485 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: is this relationship clearly started before she hired him, and 486 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: I think there's ample evidence to prove that she lied 487 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: about when the relationship started. And so I think that 488 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: the court will review this, and they will. 489 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 3: They will end up removing her. 490 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: And I think she could have her law license challenge too, 491 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: because that's a Georgia bar review. I'm sure there's been 492 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: complaints already filed about that. And but the reason why 493 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: I think there could be charges brought against her is 494 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: remember Georgia has a red state apparatus. Even though Biden 495 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 1: won the state in twenty twenty the governor is a Republican, 496 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: the state attorney general is a Republican. Every Republican office 497 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: was swept except for the Senate race in twenty twenty two. 498 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: In the same way that there are political advantages to 499 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: charging Donald Trump for Alvin Bragg and Letitia James in 500 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: New York, I think there is a red state politician 501 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: who sees political advantage in bringing charges against Fanny Willis. Now, 502 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: will she be convicted, I think that's a different question. 503 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: But I could see there being someone a voice for 504 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: truth who believes also that he or she benefits politically 505 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: from bringing those charges that could bring them to bear 506 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: in the state of Georgia. 507 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: That person would have to be willing to spend the 508 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: rest of his or her life being shouted at by 509 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: shrieking lunatics that he or she is a racist who 510 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: tried to save Donald Trump from the justice system, and 511 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: would play directly into Fannie Willis claiming that she is 512 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: in fact a victim of politics here, because Clay, it 513 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 2: is highly unusual, as you know, for a prosecutor to 514 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 2: face this would be in the course of her duties. 515 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: For a prosecutor to face prosecution himself or herself for 516 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: doing what they do. Right, it'd have to be something 517 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 2: like this official misconduct slash lying under oath. 518 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 3: It is really really rare for that to happen. It's rare. 519 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: I mean, this is why this I found this proceeding 520 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: on television so riveting. You never see a DA raise 521 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: his or her right hand and sit down under oath 522 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: and testify. I bet there's tons of criminal defense attorneys 523 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: out there listening to us right now, all over the country. 524 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: I bet almost none of them have ever seen a 525 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: DA have to testify under oath in an open court 526 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: proceed about her personal life or his personal life. 527 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: I just also look at the history of people who 528 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: have become anti Trump zelots, and some of this we've 529 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 2: really been able to see play out over a number 530 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 2: of years. Go back to the Comy McCabe era, the 531 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 2: FBI and what they did, and you know CIA, the 532 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 2: CIA director who was working against Trump, and d and 533 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 2: I Clapper and all this stuff. All these guys, some 534 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 2: of whom I mean here here's here's even better example. 535 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 2: The DOJ lawyer who fabricated evidence to get it Faiza 536 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: to go after a Trump associate got off because of 537 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 2: a DC jury. They just said, yeah, sorry, even though 538 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: he did that, we're not going to prosecute him. Their side, 539 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: somehow always takes it to the max and our side 540 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 2: always backs off at the last minute. That's why I 541 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 2: agree operating principle. So I just think again the politics 542 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: of being you're It's obviously there's a red state governor 543 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 2: and there's you know, but the politics of I'm going 544 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: to now prosecute the black female prosecuteur who was going 545 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 2: after Donald Trump in the state of Georgia. I don't 546 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 2: think there's anyone in the GOP apparatus who has the. 547 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: Uh, the uh, the stones, the testicular fortitude. I would 548 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: just point out, we're gonna have a Republican primary for 549 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: governor not too long from now in Georgia. Remember Brian 550 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: Kemp's term limited out. 551 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 3: George is not a red state. George is a purple state. 552 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 3: You gotta remember that too. 553 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: People want votes, but you got to get the nomination first. 554 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: And I think if there is a Republican candidate in 555 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: the system of apparatus that sees the opportunity here. I mean, 556 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: look from a purely removed politics perspective, the judge in 557 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: this case said that her testimony, in his opinion, raised 558 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: significant questions and I'm paraphrasing as to whether she was 559 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,239 Speaker 1: being honest on under oath. I don't remember reading an 560 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: opinion for a district attorney of her prominence. To have 561 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: someone say whether or not they were telling the truth 562 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: under oath is a legitimate question. And again, to me, 563 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: the part where she's caught on is I think there's 564 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: pretty ample evidence that this relationship started before she hired him. 565 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 3: And that's to me, the essence of this buck. 566 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: Think about how cocky and reckless she was to hire 567 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: the guy that she was sleeping with and think that 568 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: she could get away with it while engaging in the 569 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: most significant prosecution this century in the state of Georgia. 570 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 3: That is what. 571 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: That's how you know, sometimes it's your hubris that gets 572 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: you in trouble. That's so reckless by her. She really 573 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: did think that there were no consequences, that she was 574 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: above the law. 575 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: What makes you think she's not, Well, look what's happened 576 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: so far, and look what may happen even still with 577 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 2: the Court of Appeal. I like your faith, I think 578 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 2: your faith is going to be misplaced in this instance. 579 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 3: We shall see. 580 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: I think there are still enough justice judges and justices 581 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: that are willing to fairly apply the law, most of 582 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: them on unfortunately now you'd like to think that it's impartial, 583 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: but most of them on the Republican appointee side. And 584 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: that's I think what McAfee is doing by letting this 585 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: immediately go. 586 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 3: To the Court of Appeals. 587 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: I think it's fifty to fifty, meaning I can't call 588 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: it Oneman or the other. Whether the appeals court, now 589 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 2: that they're clearly going to take this up the chain, 590 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 2: whether the appeals court will remove her from the case, 591 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 2: I think that could go either way. I'm just saying 592 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 2: there will be no consequences, but I. 593 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 3: Think they'll remove her. 594 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: The other part of this book that hasn't gotten enough attention, 595 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: her commentary at the Georgia Church, where she basically said 596 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: this was happening because of racism, is also I think 597 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: enough of a conflict by itself that she should be 598 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: removed from off remember and staff. You guys can correct 599 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong on this. She already had to 600 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: get removed from a case Fanny Willis because she attended 601 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: a fundraiser for the opponent of the person that she 602 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: was trying to prosecute. So she's already been playing fast 603 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: and loose with ethical related issues prior to this even arising, 604 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: such that I think she's going to get removed, and 605 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: I think someone will bring charges against her. 606 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 3: Will they ever be in a conviction. I don't know. 607 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: She may lose her law license because there's very established 608 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: ethical boards in Georgia as well. I think her legal peril. 609 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 3: Is just beginning. We shall see. 610 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Flaggett grabbed the transcript a year and now we'll 611 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: see whether I'm. 612 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 2: I'm eating some crim brulat cotes you might not have 613 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: to pay for for the next year. 614 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 3: I know, I know. 615 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: Uh. 616 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 2: We'll take your calls here a second eight hun to 617 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 2: light up those lines. We'll talk about the border in 618 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 2: the second hour, which is coming up here in just 619 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: a little bit. 620 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 3: We've got some great guests for you too. 621 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 2: You know, nine to eleven is more than a day 622 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: in our nation's history. It's a day that is still 623 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 2: taking lives. More first responders have died since that day 624 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: from their illnesses than on that day. As important as 625 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: that date in our nation's history, only two states in 626 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: this country require teaching K through twelfth grade about America's 627 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 2: darkest day, nine to eleven. 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That is pretty straightforward in 648 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: the sense that it's hey, Texas is going to stop 649 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 2: illegals from pouring into the country. Federal government saying no, 650 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 2: you can't do that. Courts are saying yes you can, 651 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 2: No you can't. Yes you can, Maybe no you can't. 652 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 2: We'll see, we shall address that. And also a candidate Ford. 653 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 2: We have our gubernatorial candidate in the next hour. Looking 654 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 2: forward to that as well. In North Carolina. Yes, Mark Robinson, 655 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Lieutenant governor of North Carolina. Yeah, yeah, and 656 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 2: candidate for governor Mark Robinson. We were talking of this offline. 657 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: You know, he's gonna be great because the left is 658 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 2: so upset at him, that's all you You know, the more 659 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 2: that they freak out about a conservative, the more you 660 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 2: want to check out what's going on. 661 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: Also, they see North Carolina as a winnable state and 662 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 1: they're trying to go after him to destroy the Republican 663 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: Party's chances in general. Right, So that's the that's the 664 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: other aspect of this. I talked about North Carolina versus Georgia. 665 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: There's no Senate race for the first time in a 666 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: long time in Georgia. So they think they're going to 667 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: have trouble mobilizing without Warnock or Ossuf on the ballot, 668 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: and so that's gonna hurt them, whereas they see this 669 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: guy as a target. 670 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 2: All Right, Sheila in Wisconsin, got some thoughts for a Shila, 671 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 2: you worked in court for years? 672 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 5: Yes, I'm retired, and I watched the hearing on TV 673 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 5: and I was absolutely upon at her behavior during that hearing. 674 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 5: She lashed out at every single person in that courtroom, 675 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 5: including the judge. I've never seen anything like that, and 676 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 5: I hope that this appeal will take a closer look. 677 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 5: Not only it's that, but her conduct at the church 678 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 5: when she tried to play. 679 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 3: That race card right away. That indicated to me that 680 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 3: she's the racist. Yes, and that too with the apility. 681 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: So do you agree with me or Buck that there 682 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: could be charges brought here? You worked in a court 683 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: for a long time. What should happen? What do you 684 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: think will happen? 685 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 2: No, what will what will happen? What should happen is 686 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 2: irrelevant to what will happen? What will happen here? 687 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 3: Okay? What should happen? 688 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 5: Okay, both of you guys. What should happen is, first 689 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 5: of all, she needs to step down. Yes, that's what 690 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 5: should happen. 691 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 3: They need to and shouldn't be the barred. She committed perjury, 692 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 3: right right? What will what will have them? 693 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 5: But what will happen? Because this is a political issue. 694 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 5: I'm sure somehow the judge weaseled out of this because he's. 695 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 3: Up for reelection. 696 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,919 Speaker 5: He's going to pass the buck along so he doesn't 697 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 5: get blamed for it. 698 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 3: It's a good What's going to happen is they're going 699 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 3: to make it a racial thing. That's what they're going 700 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 3: to do. 701 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 5: I am a woman, but they're going to make it 702 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 5: because she's a black woman. It's a racial thing. 703 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 3: That's what's going to happen. 704 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 5: But what should happen is she ought. 705 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 3: To be removed. 706 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 5: Right. 707 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 2: Our caller is very astute, Clay in that she knows 708 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 2: that you and I agree about what should happen. But 709 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 2: she is saying what I've been saying, which is what 710 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 2: will happen is not very much. Now they pass the 711 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 2: buck no pun intended. 712 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: WHOA to the next level and some of these judges 713 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: don't have to run for reelection on the Court of Appeals. 714 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: That sometimes is clarifying. One reason you give tenure like 715 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: this is because people are willing to do what's right 716 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: sometimes and they don't have to stand for reelection.