Speaker 1: I don't like to let people know exactly how much
Speaker 1: I win, or how much I bet, or if I
Speaker 1: have any money left. I kind of like, so you
Speaker 1: just lie. I lie on that a lot because I'm married.
Speaker 1: So I have the lock. South Memphis, that's where you
Speaker 1: was at for a whole week You goddamn right. You
Speaker 1: didn't go to Atlanta. Yah know, I got no business
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, not All Star Weekend. I got no money
Speaker 1: in All Star Weekend. What was you doing to South
Speaker 1: paying me to go to All Star Weekend? What was
Speaker 1: you doing in South Memphis trying to trying to buy
Speaker 1: a multi family department building down there? You know what
Speaker 1: the property there is price really well, it's not I
Speaker 1: mean yeah, compared to like a large sandwich. I feel
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of good opportunities in Memphis. Have
Speaker 1: you been through that city recently? You've been in South
Speaker 1: Memphis recently? I was there probably two months ago. Okay,
Speaker 1: they still have like abandoned houses. I would say the
Speaker 1: zip code that I'm looking at right now, I would
Speaker 1: say it's at least abandoned. Yeah, we definitely believe it.
Speaker 1: On that um My boy, cow Cow came through brilliant idiots,
Speaker 1: brilliant idiots. I'm just dealing shot a man ship. We're
Speaker 1: gonna focus, but no sailors, No sailors. Gail Peter, my man,
Speaker 1: Cow came through Cow with up it go. I'm chilling man,
Speaker 1: I'm chilling man. I'm just it's tough when you don't
Speaker 1: have engineer doing this and you're trying to do both.
Speaker 1: So I gotta wear these stupid ass headphones. Where's the man?
Speaker 1: What's it so? King? Um? We started uh edible business? Okay,
Speaker 1: So he's up there doing all that. So he's doing
Speaker 1: all the deliveries and making the sales. King is like
Speaker 1: a a real salesman. He's like, uh, what's the boy
Speaker 1: that stole McDonald's that asshole. He's like Ray Crock. So
Speaker 1: he loves the role. He loves the concept of I
Speaker 1: would like to call it conquest. I mean, he just
Speaker 1: loves going around different cities and states conquering the edible
Speaker 1: market or any market. That's just who he is and
Speaker 1: I had to accept it. So I'm engineering today for sure.
Speaker 1: But Memphis, the property there is kind of firing and
Speaker 1: the rap scene is burgeing it for sure. So on
Speaker 1: the great rappers coming out of Memphis. I don't want
Speaker 1: to go too crazy. Cal you like, who's your favorite
Speaker 1: rap by the Memphis? I don't know. Do you know
Speaker 1: young Buck from Memphis? That's not bad? So I take Tennessee.
Speaker 1: So three six Mafias from Memphis. Obviously, Project Pat Yo Gotti,
Speaker 1: black youngster, I'm all black youngster fan from there, Pooh
Speaker 1: Shisty Yeah, and money bag you from there. Yo was fired.
Speaker 1: What's crazy is right? Is you know I'm gonna watch
Speaker 1: gang from Watch. I grew up in watching my whole
Speaker 1: life seven Street Watch. They have the most watched gangs there.
Speaker 1: It's like a it's like a invisible bridge from here
Speaker 1: to Memphis. And it's a grip of gray streets. It's
Speaker 1: a grip of Bonnie Hunters. I love it. I endorsed
Speaker 1: everything they're doing. I love them, guys. I did a
Speaker 1: little pass through of this um really large. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of really huge apartment complexes that are just really
Speaker 1: like physically busted down but like super duper like hot
Speaker 1: trap spots and and uh city or county, I want
Speaker 1: to say, intervening on one of them. And yeah, it
Speaker 1: was like the streets. Clement Clementine Street was like Warren apartments.
Speaker 1: It's like a forty unit building. Huge, looks like you
Speaker 1: can go from a movie there. It's fully abandoned as
Speaker 1: a crippentine was the I love Memphis though, like shout
Speaker 1: out to my boy kino Umies in Memphis. Uh, I
Speaker 1: love the Civil Rights Museum. We hit that. We missed
Speaker 1: the So we missed the museum and saw music that
Speaker 1: So you didn't go to Stacks. We didn't go to Stacks.
Speaker 1: Stax is like fabulous. We had one more day to
Speaker 1: do it, would have done it. Did y'all go to
Speaker 1: Elvis Shi Na. We spent a lot. We we hit
Speaker 1: as many ribbed joints as humanly possible. Yeah, Memphis got
Speaker 1: the barbecue. We hit Memphis, Kansas City in Texas, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we shot up. Actually, my boy came in town
Speaker 1: and we did a quick turnaround one night, run up
Speaker 1: to St. Louis and got some foot up. Lewis does
Speaker 1: have barbecue. That's funny. So Memphis Barbecue. St. Louis Barbecue,
Speaker 1: k C Barbecue in Texas barbecue and I'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: them out there. I didn't believe him until I started
Speaker 1: seeing it on TV and I had a sample my
Speaker 1: my best friend from colleges from Carolina. I'm going to Charleston,
Speaker 1: South Carolina, just purely for barbecue. So so South Carolina
Speaker 1: got a barbecue North and South Carolina. I had in
Speaker 1: North Carolina one time. Your favorite barbecue call a lot
Speaker 1: of all those places? Have you a barbecue in those places?
Speaker 1: A little bit somewhere in Memphis. My wife brought me
Speaker 1: back one time. Memphish was it was good, she told Memphis.
Speaker 1: But she was told me that the barbecue is it's fire.
Speaker 1: But what's weird is um, they don't put emphasis on beef,
Speaker 1: so it's like pork and so it's tough. That's how
Speaker 1: it was in Germany too, like a lot of cuisine
Speaker 1: when it comes to roasting or barbecue in this port.
Speaker 1: So it's it's tough. But I actually like Texas. I
Speaker 1: mean Jack Stacks and Casey shout out to my man
Speaker 1: traff Uh. He co owns strange music with Tech nine.
Speaker 1: So Gates is the place that all the brothers rap
Speaker 1: about for me. But jack Stacks is some fucking fire barbecue,
Speaker 1: Like they gotta fucking wing there. It's a kid a
Speaker 1: swing or spicy or honey kiss wing bro I old
Speaker 1: Travis my life taking me to that place. Travis was like,
Speaker 1: and Travis is so ill. Right, So Travis runs strange
Speaker 1: music right with Tech nine and Tech nine. But Travis
Speaker 1: sounds like a fucking old mafia boss when you talk,
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, gee, what's going on. It's always like
Speaker 1: a perfect setup. But he's also the greatest and coolest
Speaker 1: motherfucker in the world. Man, I love that motherfucker. But
Speaker 1: back to Memphis, um as dope. Was it a good time? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a good time. Uh. The initial property I
Speaker 1: went out there to grab got grabbed while I was
Speaker 1: out there, which sucks. But there's a lot there's a
Speaker 1: lot of other opportunities there. I think that the city.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of new construction starting to happen in
Speaker 1: South Memphis and like West South and river View by
Speaker 1: that big, huge Okay park over there, So I want
Speaker 1: to get over there. I did see a spot that's
Speaker 1: the best spot for the dollar, just for what it is,
Speaker 1: over an Orange mound. Yeah, I'm I'm definitely going to
Speaker 1: grab some stuff out there. I fought it for a while.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna grab some stuff. Um the Civil Rights Museum,
Speaker 1: did you get the crazy looks black person, because every
Speaker 1: time I go and if it's white people there, I
Speaker 1: always be looking at him like this show funt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there were some other people there that probably would have.
Speaker 1: I was there with my boy, uh Antoine, who's just
Speaker 1: like long dreadlocks down his back and all that. So
Speaker 1: I'm there with him and we were just, you know,
Speaker 1: doing a lot of reading. There's a lot of materials
Speaker 1: one of the greatest museums in this country. And there
Speaker 1: was a couple of other couples that were kind of
Speaker 1: like going out of their way to try to i
Speaker 1: don't know, like make a man'ster kissing asks stuff and
Speaker 1: listen to me. They were smart, because when I'm there, bro,
Speaker 1: it's a rage that fills up in me. I remember
Speaker 1: going to the room right when he got shot at
Speaker 1: so you know when you walk through the room, you know,
Speaker 1: and it was some white people standing right there reading
Speaker 1: the fucking thing and they were just taking forever and
Speaker 1: I'm looking at them like, if y'all don't move, your
Speaker 1: motherfucking asks, this is your fault. Yeah. You ever been
Speaker 1: to the Civil Rights Museum? No? I went to the
Speaker 1: Zoom in d C Wash d C. Oh, Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: you got to check the Civil Rights cad. We talked
Speaker 1: about property before, and I remember you said you was
Speaker 1: it was a thought to get in it. Um, that's
Speaker 1: always a thought there. So I conreate generate wealth that way. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's the point of generating well, uh for me, for
Speaker 1: me personally or just period for me person just a
Speaker 1: big stable for the cities and stuff, just to be
Speaker 1: sable for the kids and everyone else. When you go on,
Speaker 1: you have something to think and still prosper with. It's
Speaker 1: tough out here much with the job situation. You needs
Speaker 1: something's always working. They could generate something for you, that's true. Um. Sure,
Speaker 1: Uh what's funny is right? We we when I talked
Speaker 1: about bringing you on, right, everybody they thought I was
Speaker 1: gonna bring on a really popular rappers, Like now I'm
Speaker 1: gonna bring my man Cow because my man Cow has insight.
Speaker 1: So Cow is He gambles tough, and I'd like to
Speaker 1: call him a compulsive gambler, but he says he isn't
Speaker 1: right but interesting the way he approaches betting, because it's
Speaker 1: pretty slick. So I'm gonna I never said this to
Speaker 1: him personally, but I listened to how he approaches and
Speaker 1: he's very wise and smart with it, so he's not
Speaker 1: betting on Hey, I like this team. He's like, no,
Speaker 1: this quarterback blah blah blah, this person was hurting this
Speaker 1: this is the third And I thought that that was
Speaker 1: really interesting, this ship. How did you get into gambler?
Speaker 1: I'm as a kid. It'll be my mom that got
Speaker 1: me in the Gaboy, what you're doing, we don't really
Speaker 1: that's what gambler really is. Gambler could be just playing bingo.
Speaker 1: So I really got into gambling when I was about
Speaker 1: five years old. We did the Super Bowl not super
Speaker 1: Bowl pool to college football pools, and I won all
Speaker 1: the quarters one time as a little kid, I had
Speaker 1: a certain numbers and I just won the whole pool.
Speaker 1: You know what everybody thinks about that, but that is
Speaker 1: actually the start of what's crazy. Is South sam Manuel.
Speaker 1: You know where everybody goes to. They have some of
Speaker 1: the biggest beingo games in the world, like fifteen hundred
Speaker 1: dollar bingo games, hundred dollar beingo games, thirty five hundred
Speaker 1: dollar beingo you know bingo games. When you win this
Speaker 1: kind of money, my mom and my older so obviously
Speaker 1: from my gang, it's a it's a woman. To me,
Speaker 1: that's so Ms Jackson is the grandmother. She's the matriarch
Speaker 1: of kind of my neighborhood, if that's fair to say,
Speaker 1: outside that she's the matriarch of her family. At this time,
Speaker 1: she's the matriarch of the hundred and seventeen Street Watch crips.
Speaker 1: We all love her the death. She would take care
Speaker 1: of all of us no matter what's going on, rest herself.
Speaker 1: She was amazing woman. And her family, you know, carries
Speaker 1: on the lineage. But her daughter, my older home girl, Frankie.
Speaker 1: She was a much older lady. She wasn't really a gangbanger,
Speaker 1: but she kind of was because both of her sons.
Speaker 1: Her oldest son is my big homie Tone. Her youngest
Speaker 1: son is my homeboy daddy. Oh. So she's like she
Speaker 1: would go in these games and they would go every
Speaker 1: fucking weekend, and she would like hit like twice a month,
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about for thousands of dollars. They would
Speaker 1: take a bus. It used to be a bus that
Speaker 1: comes to the Denny's in Lakewood that's on Artizia and
Speaker 1: Lakewood Boulevard. A bus would come right there between the
Speaker 1: Denny's and the doughnut shop. And she got my mom
Speaker 1: into it and they would take this bus just to
Speaker 1: not have to drive to say Manuel to play bingo
Speaker 1: all day for weekends. That ship crazy. Well, you know
Speaker 1: the I don't know if it's a Catholic church or
Speaker 1: just rig of churches. Had a Bengal night, remember the Inglewood.
Speaker 1: I should drive by there when I was leaving a
Speaker 1: race track and I'd be like, man, this is more
Speaker 1: crossed at the night. But people don't look at that.
Speaker 1: Back then. It's gambling. But that's the when they go
Speaker 1: every week at the same time every week and they
Speaker 1: came miss a week. This gabbling. I mean that was gabbling. Damn,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. What do you gamble at all? Pete? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I finally started getting into sports gambling the last couple
Speaker 1: of hours wanted to. And it's never really got around
Speaker 1: it doing it. And I kind of look at it
Speaker 1: the way he does like to me, it's a very
Speaker 1: it's it's a strategic investment. It's not a gamble. I
Speaker 1: don't need to place the bet. If the if it
Speaker 1: makes sense to place the bet all places. So I
Speaker 1: ran the table over the last football season, made a
Speaker 1: handful of best one a few grand, but I showed
Speaker 1: up with an intent to bet A couple of times
Speaker 1: walked out. I didn't see anything I liked. When I
Speaker 1: place tom, I one them there you go. Um, have
Speaker 1: you had to choose something that was your favorite thing
Speaker 1: to gamble on? Like? Is it a sports or is
Speaker 1: it a game? I only bet sports. I have the
Speaker 1: worst luck on Earth. I mean like ship like we
Speaker 1: Man from Why from Wild Boys and Ship could could
Speaker 1: beat Michael Jordan's one on one on to pulled Hamstring
Speaker 1: if I put money down. It's just things don't work
Speaker 1: out in my favor. Uh, cow, Like, what's your favorite
Speaker 1: ship to gamble on? My favorite thing would probably be
Speaker 1: horse racing because that's what I grew up on and
Speaker 1: I never understood that. Because you like so My still Still,
Speaker 1: who produces so Triple, is the producer of this podcast.
Speaker 1: Um Still is my manager, but he's the one outside
Speaker 1: of Charlotte Magne that has been trying to get me
Speaker 1: in the podcast and for years still is my older brothers,
Speaker 1: my smart guy. You feel me like. One of the
Speaker 1: first people to embrace me took me on a tour
Speaker 1: around the rest of the count around the rest of
Speaker 1: the world. Feebly exposed me to how to truly you know,
Speaker 1: make a living in hip hop as far as an
Speaker 1: independent artist even being signed. So I have all that
Speaker 1: to say his pops. So I'm on the promo run
Speaker 1: and I'm just doing radio stations. I stayed at his
Speaker 1: pops house, uh in in Ohio. It's and near Cleveland.
Speaker 1: It's called Ravenna. And um he was a horse race guy,
Speaker 1: and I and and a few horse raised guys. I know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, how the fund do you bet on
Speaker 1: horse racing? It's a different horse almost every race. It's
Speaker 1: not like you go to the track. It's like betting
Speaker 1: on the Lakers. You know, you bet on the Lakers consistently.
Speaker 1: It's not like you know a horse that showed horse
Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, anytime this motherfucker race, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: there to bet on him. Okay. So you do have
Speaker 1: a favorite horse. I wanted to have a favorite horse.
Speaker 1: And you can watch your horse lead up to the
Speaker 1: derby and you can keep betting, keep betting, and then
Speaker 1: when here's the derby, you know that's your horse. You've
Speaker 1: been watching them like ragonlears, season playoffs, championships. I look
Speaker 1: at horse horses like regularly I look at the athletes
Speaker 1: just like a basketball player, just like a baseball players.
Speaker 1: So who your horses? The same way? So like if
Speaker 1: if Ramon, you know you know what Ramon is, right?
Speaker 1: If Ramon, I don't say his name because he usually
Speaker 1: brings on the level Ramon right? When when you you
Speaker 1: know Ramon? Who is Ramon? For you? When it comes
Speaker 1: to horse, um, who is the Holy Bull? It was
Speaker 1: a horse called Holy Bull one time. So I'm back,
Speaker 1: way sure, sure, back you can have a new you
Speaker 1: can have a new horse. Okay, So who is your horse?
Speaker 1: Who is your all time favorite horse? What everybody's gonna
Speaker 1: say Sea Biscuit because you know he had the movie
Speaker 1: and it was a little horse that beat the odds.
Speaker 1: So Sea Biscuits, that was a real horse, like Secretary Secretary,
Speaker 1: Those are like horses, you know, MS Dollar, that's the
Speaker 1: Michael Jordans of course. Is the first triple crown? Was
Speaker 1: a pharaoh something like that? Well I'm not I'm a gambler,
Speaker 1: So those things about three years ago, didn't this It
Speaker 1: wasn't the first triple crown winner. And like forever pharaoh.
Speaker 1: So you so you never even wanted to ride a horse? No,
Speaker 1: I like horse back right, yes, but I don't care
Speaker 1: nothing about that. But horse a horse, well, I want
Speaker 1: to own a horse. No, if I had a farm,
Speaker 1: that was that's my next like purchase I want in
Speaker 1: this area I live in, to buy me a farm.
Speaker 1: If I had a farm, of course, a horse will
Speaker 1: be one of my major purchases at that time. But
Speaker 1: it's just as flat. I want to own a horse. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think I was no true designers to get
Speaker 1: in on, like grabbing a quarter horse to look like
Speaker 1: for the Alamedo circuit or something I'd like to lease.
Speaker 1: So I would like to get into a group of
Speaker 1: people who who would like, Okay, you can put this
Speaker 1: much money in and you'll be part owner or something
Speaker 1: like that, and then once that horse sailor ever, we're
Speaker 1: gonna do another one like that. I like stuff like that,
Speaker 1: But flint out on the horse, No, because I don't
Speaker 1: look at horse racing that's being legit. Which game do
Speaker 1: you have the worst luck in the worst look as
Speaker 1: in gambling or since you've been gambling, since I've been gotten.
Speaker 1: My worst luck will probably be in college basketball, which
Speaker 1: I love college basketball, but only bet on college basketball,
Speaker 1: like in a couple of weeks March Madness. That's the
Speaker 1: only time I've been on college basketball. That's my worst
Speaker 1: look because I don't follow it because I'm too busy
Speaker 1: watching horse racing. Two beats watching the NBA, and I
Speaker 1: love I love the bet. Now my new bettest baseball
Speaker 1: to me. Baseball is the best bet ever to me
Speaker 1: because it's only Um, some teams are better than other teams.
Speaker 1: You have to watch what picture they're gonna have picture
Speaker 1: that day. Um, Women's like this betting, it's all rigged
Speaker 1: to fix anyway. People are ringing in fixed. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not it's not real. So you I thought, that's why
Speaker 1: I bet for fun, which a lot of people look
Speaker 1: at me. So you gamble too much? You addicted to gamble. No,
Speaker 1: this is just fun for me because I know that
Speaker 1: the outcome is not really legit. It's always something. Um,
Speaker 1: there's a variable in there that those all come off
Speaker 1: that you don't know about. Like in horse racing, you
Speaker 1: don't know if a horse is sick or not. You
Speaker 1: don't know what that trainer plan is for that horse
Speaker 1: going forward. So you wonder why one horse would beat
Speaker 1: another horse that it shouldn't have beat. But can't you
Speaker 1: get like insights if you was really into it, Yeah
Speaker 1: you could, but I don't. I don't. I don't do
Speaker 1: it that way. I do it by I let the
Speaker 1: people do that, right, So the odds board tell me
Speaker 1: what the people are thinking. So what I do is
Speaker 1: I look at the odds and if I see a
Speaker 1: horse that was a class a horse, no one should
Speaker 1: beat them at all. Right, And you're one to yourself,
Speaker 1: how can this horse lose this race? And then when
Speaker 1: a horse lose the race, you're wondering what happened because
Speaker 1: it's that variable in there that you don't know about
Speaker 1: what they're preparing the horse, the horse for the rowing
Speaker 1: down the line, or if the training you are, the
Speaker 1: owners even want to win that race. But as a gabbler,
Speaker 1: you don't know that. And that's what That's why I
Speaker 1: say it's only for fun and I'm not addicted to
Speaker 1: it anything. It's just a fun hobby I have, and
Speaker 1: I have fun with it because they're that variable in
Speaker 1: there will always mess you up. It's like it's like
Speaker 1: college football. If a college football team won't score at
Speaker 1: the end of the game at the one yard line
Speaker 1: and just take a knee for four downs. That's not
Speaker 1: legit to me. You're messing with the with the score
Speaker 1: or the game. If you go down there and give
Speaker 1: the one yard line and it's the first thing goal
Speaker 1: and you're gonna score the football, you just take a
Speaker 1: knee all four downs. That messes with the with the
Speaker 1: game to me as a gabbler. And when I see that,
Speaker 1: I have to realize that team won't make the spread.
Speaker 1: You think, so you think somebody's on the team is involved. No,
Speaker 1: I think bigger than bigger than the team. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's you think something, But I think bigger
Speaker 1: than the team. I think bigger than that. I think
Speaker 1: it's because they're they're gonna let you gamble on sports,
Speaker 1: gamble in different cities now where it's not like you
Speaker 1: have to go over to Vegas anymore. For my two
Speaker 1: more years of being here in California, I said, with that,
Speaker 1: the corruption of it is there. So knowing that the
Speaker 1: corruption is there, you have to bet, according to me,
Speaker 1: So why do you think people think you're addicted to
Speaker 1: it at that point? Because that they don't undamn ever
Speaker 1: asked me why I gamble? What I gamble on and
Speaker 1: how I gamble? If you never ask me those questions.
Speaker 1: You don't see that gamble every day, But you know
Speaker 1: nothing about my strategy, nothing that I'm doing. You don't
Speaker 1: know nothing. I feel like this if I bet small
Speaker 1: to win big, so I bet like a parlay with
Speaker 1: multiple teams on there, but I have a team I
Speaker 1: think gonna absolutely win, right, I bet to win big,
Speaker 1: but with a small. So you're in the gambling. You're
Speaker 1: not even batting at that point about gambling, I'm betting.
Speaker 1: What I like about the word it gets right. It's
Speaker 1: something that you kind of This is not truly the definition,
Speaker 1: but the way I look at it is betting is
Speaker 1: when you're like, you feel like someone's going to win, right,
Speaker 1: and you put money down. I think gambling is when
Speaker 1: you're playing with the odds. You get what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like when the odds, like when I seen gamblings, when
Speaker 1: you put money down. Betting is when you with the
Speaker 1: odds that mightn't met at that one without the other.
Speaker 1: That's how I look at it. If you gambling, if
Speaker 1: you're betting your gamble, that's how I look at together.
Speaker 1: But that have have This is the real Nigga hour.
Speaker 1: Even though Peters there Peter's real nigga, but he's just white. Um.
Speaker 1: Have you ever fucked off some money? You shouldn't have
Speaker 1: sucked off gambling, that's an honest question. So but at
Speaker 1: that point then you don't think, but you really felt
Speaker 1: that team was gonna win, that's why. Or still somebody
Speaker 1: going when you put your bed down there, who's gonna
Speaker 1: bet on? Somebody think gonna lose? That's how I if
Speaker 1: you bet to lose, you shouldn't be gambling at all.
Speaker 1: You should just keep it in in your pocket and
Speaker 1: go do something else. I don't bet to lose. I
Speaker 1: bet odds right, So the odds tell you who's gonna win.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell like in horse racing, the odds were
Speaker 1: too recently. Like, I'll tell you that that big favorite
Speaker 1: right one to nine, the lowest odds you can happen.
Speaker 1: Right they get to the gate, his eyes go up
Speaker 1: to one. That's an even money bed. Now what that
Speaker 1: told me was he's not gonna win because his own people,
Speaker 1: the trainers are the the cap took their money off
Speaker 1: the horse. So what that told me was, they're not
Speaker 1: gonna let that horse win today. And guess what happened.
Speaker 1: That horse didn't win. So the odds board, I don't
Speaker 1: even have to know the name of the horse. I
Speaker 1: can just look at the odds and keep watching the
Speaker 1: odds from when they first put them on the board
Speaker 1: until the end, and eight times out of ten, I
Speaker 1: can tell you who's gonna win. It don't happen all
Speaker 1: the time, but I can pick just off the odds
Speaker 1: and tell you if that's gonna win. If I watched
Speaker 1: it from the beginning, that that would be almost kind
Speaker 1: of like there's certain tells and like the stock market
Speaker 1: as far as like after hours trading or if you
Speaker 1: see a certain percentage of shorts on something that you
Speaker 1: can kind of get into all right, the the insider
Speaker 1: in industry, players, the institutions have information that's leading them
Speaker 1: to believe that this is gonna go in one way.
Speaker 1: And that's a very similar approach that he takes to that.
Speaker 1: Um would you think would you call the stock market gambling?
Speaker 1: Not in the same sense, No, because if you lose
Speaker 1: a bet. If I bet a thousand dollars on anything
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas and lose it, the instant the outcome happens,
Speaker 1: I lose the whole thousand. In the stock market you
Speaker 1: can put money in. I put a thousand dollars on,
Speaker 1: but it's rare that it's gonna go to zero and
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen like that. You know, you can say,
Speaker 1: all right, I can afford to lose x. Holy sh it,
Speaker 1: it's walked all the way down to seven hundred from
Speaker 1: a thousand. Jesus Christ. Let's cut and run and you
Speaker 1: can walk out with seven hundred dollars. So let me
Speaker 1: ask you a question. Do y'all think it's lazy like
Speaker 1: the stock market? I guess we could kind of talk
Speaker 1: about stock marketing and gambling both, whether it's horse racing
Speaker 1: that Like you do the work before, right, you're kind
Speaker 1: of trying to figure out exactly what's gonna happen because
Speaker 1: you're gauging it off of some kind of information, right,
Speaker 1: you're gauging it all off some kind of information, and
Speaker 1: you put your money in because you want the money
Speaker 1: to make money. Of course, um, depending on that, is
Speaker 1: that lazy? No? Not in anyway, it's it's it's lazy
Speaker 1: not to it's lazy not to h if you're putting
Speaker 1: the time and energy and you're investing your human capital
Speaker 1: and putting your money to work like. You don't want
Speaker 1: your money to be lazy, Like right now, I got
Speaker 1: a lot of unemployed, lazy ass money, So I'm trying
Speaker 1: to buy a property that can give me a return
Speaker 1: on and put that money to work. The amount of
Speaker 1: time I just spend an entire week money effort, what
Speaker 1: ever else a month during research over there, I could
Speaker 1: have grabbed a part time job dicking around at the
Speaker 1: gas station to get pigeon ship money with those hours.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to take those hours and put that money
Speaker 1: to work. That's not lazy nig his wife for real,
Speaker 1: pete um. When it comes to gambling, my thing is
Speaker 1: three dice. I love four or five six um, But
Speaker 1: she stacked the game somewhat somewhat because I like gambling
Speaker 1: against everybody. You're the type of guy who loses ten
Speaker 1: grand on the dice game and a back alley and
Speaker 1: just knock off the winner and walk off with the money.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not a bad loser. What's funny is
Speaker 1: my homies cheated me before my my younger homies cheated me. Right,
Speaker 1: I wasn't paying attention in the game because I was
Speaker 1: the guys who were on the T shirts would never
Speaker 1: do that to me. Hoies man, I love nigga, but
Speaker 1: they was using some teas on me right. They were
Speaker 1: sticking the dice and I wanted to do something to them.
Speaker 1: But I thought about it like it was a little
Speaker 1: bit of money, and I figured how I was gonna
Speaker 1: get every dime back out of each one of them.
Speaker 1: They don't know that I have a plan to get
Speaker 1: each dime back out of all of them. But the
Speaker 1: thing is they're not and and the thing is I'm
Speaker 1: going to get every dime. That's how I think. Like,
Speaker 1: if you're my friend and I can't like harm you,
Speaker 1: I'm going to get every dime. I'm going to make
Speaker 1: you feel me getting paused every dime back out of
Speaker 1: you for whatever you start from me. That's my partners though. Um,
Speaker 1: but I like three dice. Um. Boxing is my thing.
Speaker 1: I bet on boxing. I'm really into it. I'm into
Speaker 1: the styles clash. Uh. I've hit some pretty big bets.
Speaker 1: Lost something, but I don't know what was the what
Speaker 1: was the most pro left Thick lost not only from
Speaker 1: a dollar standpoint, but from a high profile fight standpoint
Speaker 1: and also win on the flip side. The biggest prolific
Speaker 1: wind Okay, so lost. Who did I bet on that
Speaker 1: lost the fight? And it was like, damn, I couldn't
Speaker 1: believe they lost the fight. Uh So, most of the
Speaker 1: time I know when someone's going to lose, like I know,
Speaker 1: but I'll be betting just to kind of get these odds.
Speaker 1: So I'll bet my friends like three timehawks stakes to one,
Speaker 1: even though I know my guy has the greater chance
Speaker 1: of losing. You know, that's pretty much what it is.
Speaker 1: But if I had to say my greatest loss, shit,
Speaker 1: my greatest lost. Somebody stopped me from losing. My boy
Speaker 1: Salad stopped me from losing a thousand dollars because I
Speaker 1: was gonna bet on Cannello against Floyd m So he
Speaker 1: stopped me from losing that because I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: he was a young stud. But my boy Brian Sallis
Speaker 1: made a lot of sense. He was like, bro, he
Speaker 1: boxes nobody's don't have box Floyd. He was right, it
Speaker 1: didn't matter his size, he was bigger, he was younger, fresher.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna box Floyd, you're gonna lose. I mean,
Speaker 1: the guys that have pushed him are guys who muscle
Speaker 1: him around. Get grimy for me, they just take what
Speaker 1: they can, and Canello was a pure boxer still, So
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, if I had to say I lost money
Speaker 1: on the biggest fight, I lost money, Uh, ship, like
Speaker 1: you had money on the littlest over rock mind and
Speaker 1: got taken to the cleaners. No, because I wasn't really
Speaker 1: betting on boxing. Man. Oh take that back, Oscar and
Speaker 1: fucking finish Trindo. That I lost three dollars in that fight.
Speaker 1: That was my biggest loss that made money. I always knew.
Speaker 1: I always knew, Lena, I'm the hardest person on Tyson
Speaker 1: breathing in Memphis because that pyramid where they did the
Speaker 1: fight is now a bass pro shops. Man, how did
Speaker 1: you come from that? Um? So it would have to
Speaker 1: be Oscar versus Trinidad, and I thought I wanted to fight.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's the worst fight I ever lost. That's
Speaker 1: the worst fight I ever lost, because I honestly just
Speaker 1: thought Oscar was gonna win the fight, even when he
Speaker 1: got off the gas and started, you know, like letting
Speaker 1: Phelix get back in the fire, like, oh, we already
Speaker 1: got seven eight rounds in the bag. And when they
Speaker 1: called Phoenix the winner, that fight hurt me. Um. My
Speaker 1: greatest win is about three fights there by equal, and
Speaker 1: they're equal for different reasons. Um Selito versus Lomachenko. It
Speaker 1: was Loma Chanco second fight, and they would fighting for
Speaker 1: a title. Loma Chenco was this Vasilli Loma Chanco is.
Speaker 1: It's super uh idolized and superior amateur fighter that's turning
Speaker 1: pro and he's fighting for a world title on his
Speaker 1: second fight. That's how great he is as a profession. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's Ukrainian, so he's a super ill amateur double gold
Speaker 1: medalist like four hundred and some fights, probably like four
Speaker 1: hundred and eight or some ship either won all these fights.
Speaker 1: And he's fighting against Orlando Solito, who is this super
Speaker 1: rugged Mexican fighter who takes anything. And I had bet
Speaker 1: on the fight in Vegas. The odds were like, I
Speaker 1: think six to one or something, and I put down
Speaker 1: probably like five bucks and then friends I bet right,
Speaker 1: So I killed with that one. But I always felt
Speaker 1: a leader would win because when you're an amateur, you know,
Speaker 1: you could be a fantastic amateur, but when you get
Speaker 1: into the pros, the pros can be rugged. It could
Speaker 1: be like hit your arm, hit your you know, head
Speaker 1: butt you. It's just a thousand things to make the
Speaker 1: fight rough. It's a real fight that amateur you know,
Speaker 1: exhibition is different, it's controlled, it's different. Professional fight is
Speaker 1: will And I felt like at your second fight, this
Speaker 1: is a bad fight. Now. I feel was a regular
Speaker 1: boxer for that championship belt. But Salito is a rugged
Speaker 1: fighter and he won that fight. And I told everybody
Speaker 1: the second fight is Tyson Fury Vladim Mclisko. I saw
Speaker 1: Tyson Fury probably at fight fourteen and been following the
Speaker 1: whole time. Um, he gave me these crazy Muhammad al
Speaker 1: Levi's as a gypsy like he has. He's a super
Speaker 1: proficient fighter. He understands boxing. He researches that he has
Speaker 1: the super gifts, ridiculous reach, six nine, very agile. You
Speaker 1: know it's a video floating on YouTube because it's just
Speaker 1: bouncing around the living room. Feel me like shadow boxing
Speaker 1: and never hit a piece of furniture without ever looking down.
Speaker 1: He says, an ability to burn calories like no human
Speaker 1: that has ever breathed oxygen on this earth ever. So
Speaker 1: this is a six ft nine, two hundred seventy two
Speaker 1: eighty pound man cow and he's bouncing around his neigble
Speaker 1: room shadow boxing, and he never touches a piece of
Speaker 1: furniture so that the coordination like he looks like a
Speaker 1: little sloppy, but his coordination is like superior. And I
Speaker 1: bet Top, I bet Vegas, I bet a couple of harmonies.
Speaker 1: I killed on that one because I always knew Vlad.
Speaker 1: I always knew Lad needed the jab. Entyson Fury was
Speaker 1: gonna take the jab away, and Lad wouldn't have knew
Speaker 1: how to. He's used his jabs whole career, you know,
Speaker 1: sixty seventy fights, and you got a guy that's gonna
Speaker 1: take away your jab because he's he's fast as he's
Speaker 1: faster than you, he's longer than you are, he's taller
Speaker 1: than you, and he's he's more of an athlete. So
Speaker 1: he's going to take away your jab. But that's what Tyson,
Speaker 1: that's what great boxes do. They take away yo emoose weapon.
Speaker 1: So he took it away and he wanted to fight,
Speaker 1: and I knew that was gonna happen. And the Tyson
Speaker 1: Fury Deontay Wilder the last one. I told everybody I
Speaker 1: was watching that cow house and I probably had about
Speaker 1: three thousand dollars with everybody, And I told them Deontay
Speaker 1: Wilder will never knocked Tyson Fury down again. They think
Speaker 1: about that was crazy Fury in that fight, right, But
Speaker 1: great boxers get better, they remember things, they change because
Speaker 1: it's like Joe Fraser and mohammedd Ill leave. The first fight,
Speaker 1: Joe Frasier was great, but second third fight, second fighter
Speaker 1: was fun up and the third fight got better. But
Speaker 1: Mohammed Ali was never You was never gonna surprise him anymore.
Speaker 1: And that's how Tyson Fury is. He's such a great
Speaker 1: boxing you won't surprise him. You just have to up
Speaker 1: your will. Like like Frasier then the third fight, though
Speaker 1: he lost, he upped his will. So I imagine when
Speaker 1: Deonte and Fury fight again, Fury, I mean, Wilder will
Speaker 1: up his will. But you can't surprise a great boxing.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be ready for everything you're gonna do. So
Speaker 1: even though it's gonna be a great fight, it's a
Speaker 1: fight where the smarter box is gonna come out. So
Speaker 1: those are the three Those are the three fights. Those
Speaker 1: are the four fights that kind of make up my
Speaker 1: gamining career. With boxing. Everything else I've made, I made
Speaker 1: money but or lost money. But it really was just fun.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even give him funk. I just like putting
Speaker 1: pressure on other people, Like if you think somebody's gonna
Speaker 1: win and it's like a blowout, like I'll just bet
Speaker 1: you five to one, four hour a day control. You're
Speaker 1: just like trolling people. So you give a fighter one
Speaker 1: odds to a regular person, Yeah, okay, So so if
Speaker 1: I know something, I'll give you fight one. Remember I
Speaker 1: gave y'all no, no, I gave e. I gave bone
Speaker 1: and moved three to one. You know what happened was
Speaker 1: I bet them that the Clippers would beat the Lakers
Speaker 1: every game last year. No, it wasn't. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you why I made the bet. And it's a tough
Speaker 1: bet because it's four games. But the team that started
Speaker 1: the season for the Clippers was the perfect combination to
Speaker 1: deal with the Lakers. But the first two games it
Speaker 1: was fine. They made trades in the off season, they
Speaker 1: changed their rosters, and then they started giving somebody the
Speaker 1: Morris brother thirty minutes. And he is the worst kind
Speaker 1: of defender Between Lebron and a d it's a different
Speaker 1: kind of defense that you need to have. And they
Speaker 1: played this man thirty minutes. So he's playing thirty minutes
Speaker 1: and he can't Guardy the Guy, and he's the first
Speaker 1: game that they lost was was the third game. He
Speaker 1: gave him zero points in twenty nine minutes. The second
Speaker 1: game he gave him two points in twenty nine minutes
Speaker 1: and thirty two minutes, and he can't Guardy the guy.
Speaker 1: So that through my whole better and it was it
Speaker 1: looked it was pretty sweet. Well, after going to work
Speaker 1: for him, it was working. It it didn't work right
Speaker 1: the third game. It was a great bet, fantastic, But
Speaker 1: I didn't take that to account the Clippers doing something stupid.
Speaker 1: Why would you not take that into account given the
Speaker 1: Clippers I have. That's my mistake. That's why I made
Speaker 1: my mistake. See, my mistake is of human behavioral bets,
Speaker 1: your considerations. You gotta make come backs. And and what's
Speaker 1: crazy is right, They've changed front offices, they changed coaches,
Speaker 1: and they still do a Clipper type ship. It's like
Speaker 1: it's a fucking heck on the fucking Clippers. The Clippers
Speaker 1: are probably the worst betting team in the history of
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, maybe them and the writers. No, don't bring
Speaker 1: the ters up. The writers too. I mean, ain't they're
Speaker 1: a Vegas team. Now they're gonna win. Now, I don't
Speaker 1: know they're gonna win within three years. You want to
Speaker 1: make it back. I don't beat people. That's why I
Speaker 1: was it was it was weird that you said I
Speaker 1: was addicted to gambling, right, I not say you were
Speaker 1: addicted to gambling. You said, I'll do what gamble too much?
Speaker 1: You said, I said, you're a compulsive gambler, And well,
Speaker 1: what are the character risk of a compostal gambler on anything? Right?
Speaker 1: But anything? And everything? That means when you when you
Speaker 1: get the urge, you can't stop yourself. But they don't
Speaker 1: mean what you don't bet on anything. You have to
Speaker 1: look at that. But that's not the point. Like an alcoholic,
Speaker 1: don't mean your drink anything. But there's risk of alcoholic
Speaker 1: A lot of times they do drink anything. I know
Speaker 1: some acoholics that you mix a bunch of drinks in
Speaker 1: one big old cup. Here'll go ahead and drink that
Speaker 1: just because it's alcohol in it. Yeah, I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that it's impossible. I'm saying that is not
Speaker 1: the only thing that could make a like an alcoholic.
Speaker 1: There's different between the guy who can't stop himself, a
Speaker 1: guy who can't stop, and the guy who can't stop himself.
Speaker 1: You know, like you can't just you can stop. You
Speaker 1: can You're not where. I'm not gambling. I don't know
Speaker 1: what to do with myself. But when you want to
Speaker 1: go out and lay the else bets down on Friday,
Speaker 1: come Heller Hawwater, you're gonna do it. I agree with that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's not compostal though, because compostal would have been
Speaker 1: I thought for sure. I was positive. I thought no
Speaker 1: one could tell me no different as the Kansas City
Speaker 1: Chiefs wasn't gonna win. I went through everything. I said
Speaker 1: this this is an easy bet, remember, and I did
Speaker 1: not bet because I felt that time, because I felt
Speaker 1: that something is not right with the game. It's like
Speaker 1: in horse race when I feel that wolve rigg. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying it was rig I'm saying that the Chiefs
Speaker 1: quarterback did something and played the way I have never
Speaker 1: seen him play. Because I was I told you one day,
Speaker 1: I said, the quarterback can throw the ball full work
Speaker 1: going backwards. That was the key when he wouldn't get
Speaker 1: sacked so much because he could be backpedaling and make
Speaker 1: an accurate throw down the field. In that game, when
Speaker 1: he backpedaled, he never really released the ball. He turned
Speaker 1: again and got sacked, and he was doing stuff that
Speaker 1: I saw, I've never seen him do before. So now
Speaker 1: my saying the game was rigged that he played, uh
Speaker 1: he maybe maybe he might have been ill or something
Speaker 1: was wrong with him. He didn't play the game. How
Speaker 1: he always plays the guest. I won the second half.
Speaker 1: I only bet second half spread and really really really
Speaker 1: big football games. That's all I do. But like in
Speaker 1: that game, he had the worst protection he's probably had
Speaker 1: for any single game in his career. And the difference
Speaker 1: between yeah, that happening that point, that's not that's what
Speaker 1: I was saying. He to me, It's like it was
Speaker 1: really the tale of two offensive lines. Yeah, well, well
Speaker 1: I would to say that. I say it's Uni of
Speaker 1: office line. In the defense, they had a strategy to
Speaker 1: take away one guy by triple team. Though you're trying
Speaker 1: to tell me that Kansas City couldn't adjust to that.
Speaker 1: It was called that. You told me it was an
Speaker 1: adjustment made that Keenness City didn't adjust to. But if
Speaker 1: they're if they're power, if there's power, rushing you and
Speaker 1: you were running quarterback and get out the pocket. When
Speaker 1: that pocket break, go to the left and go up
Speaker 1: up the field. You don't go backwards, you go up
Speaker 1: the field. He did run back too many times for
Speaker 1: me to believe that was legit. That difference was like
Speaker 1: in that game, their edges were getting off so fast.
Speaker 1: Where it's like an the post you get a little
Speaker 1: bit more time. They were getting off so fast that
Speaker 1: he didn't have enough time for the receivers to even
Speaker 1: get open to go parallel. But that was that was
Speaker 1: an errors not being there. But that's my point. Like
Speaker 1: to me, I'm not a football guy at all, but
Speaker 1: it seemed like watching that game, it was the tell
Speaker 1: of two offensive lines. I was prepared to walk away
Speaker 1: without doing a bet at halftime. I try to not
Speaker 1: be a football guy. That bet is a cigar fishing
Speaker 1: out a magazine bet. That's why I take the bet.
Speaker 1: It's an eight plus percent break in one way with
Speaker 1: a tell. The team that wins the overall spread eight
Speaker 1: plus percent of the time. The Super Bowl also covered
Speaker 1: the second half spread, So the team that at halftime
Speaker 1: looks like they're poised to cover bet on that to
Speaker 1: cover the second half spread, you're gonna get eighty plus
Speaker 1: percent turn out in your favor. I was going to
Speaker 1: walk away from the bed and at the last and
Speaker 1: when they put the number up at seven and a half,
Speaker 1: I held it. And now because if it was gonna
Speaker 1: be three and a half, I wasn't gonna place the bet.
Speaker 1: All right, cal So you feel that that makes you
Speaker 1: not a composting gamblet No, you can't call me a
Speaker 1: compostal gambler unless you understand how I gamble, why I gamble,
Speaker 1: and what I gamble on. I just know that I
Speaker 1: gamble every day and just say, man, you gamble too much.
Speaker 1: Because I didn't say you gamble too much. Gamble. Look,
Speaker 1: I say you're a compulsive gap and not no, not
Speaker 1: at all. Have you ever heard of me been a person?
Speaker 1: I don't think that means like no, No, I know
Speaker 1: alcoholics that never drank turkey. No, they drink liquor. But
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, everybody's gambling with each other saying, oh
Speaker 1: I want I'll bet you this. I think to myself,
Speaker 1: I know. Let's say I know baseball. I always tell
Speaker 1: you that I know baseball. I know who gonna wins.
Speaker 1: I've been winning that baseball. But if a person came
Speaker 1: to me and said, well, I bet your Dodgers not
Speaker 1: gonna win, I won't bet them because I don't bet people.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that that means I can control what
Speaker 1: I gabble on. That's why I'm telling you I can
Speaker 1: control how I gabble, where I gabble and when. Are
Speaker 1: you're saying somebody's not an alcoholic because they refuse certain
Speaker 1: types of liquor. No, I'm saying that someone's not an
Speaker 1: alcoholic when they could control when the drinking, when not
Speaker 1: to drink, you know, not not win to drinking, when
Speaker 1: not to drink, what they drink, when to drink, when
Speaker 1: not to drink. And I'll give you what that. But
Speaker 1: it's also with a drink because I want to stop
Speaker 1: drinking once they started. M hm. You start gamble to
Speaker 1: the end for fun? No, I want to act your question. No.
Speaker 1: But do I gamble to the end for fun when
Speaker 1: I go to Vegas? Yes, because that's my fun time
Speaker 1: in Vegas. I don't care if I'm win to lose.
Speaker 1: I'm just having fun because I don't believe anything that
Speaker 1: Vegas is real. I think it's all rigged. So you're
Speaker 1: just donating. You're pretty much having fun. It's like, um,
Speaker 1: I look at it like the trip club. If I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put money on the table, there better be a
Speaker 1: naked woman up there because I'm not getting it back.
Speaker 1: You just having fun so Vegas. I'm just having fun.
Speaker 1: So if I win, fine, But if I don't. What's
Speaker 1: the fastest you ever lost all your money when you
Speaker 1: went to Vegas? Why you're trying to know something that
Speaker 1: somebody told you? But I'm not, honestly, I just want
Speaker 1: all my money. Just wasn't all Honestly, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: budget for the day. No, that's he's trying to say
Speaker 1: something you know about that. I have no idea what
Speaker 1: you're talking happens. That's I'm gonna tell you why I've
Speaker 1: never I don't know what you're talking about. Honestly, honestly,
Speaker 1: it's not a gambling some guy has no poker face
Speaker 1: in It's no fair question. But how is it? Not
Speaker 1: a fair question? Not a fair question? Let me ask
Speaker 1: you a question. This is years ago. You know you
Speaker 1: just have these bus trips where you go to Vegas
Speaker 1: on the bus just for the day and come back.
Speaker 1: So you know, I love. I've never heard the story
Speaker 1: on Olivia on Olivia, so you didn't hear the whole story.
Speaker 1: But you know what happened to me. I mean, because
Speaker 1: I'm sure this happened, what happened in my life. I
Speaker 1: swear on my life. I have no idea what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. Cow since I've known you twice, you've lost
Speaker 1: your money fast, so I don't. I'm asking when is
Speaker 1: the fastest you ever lost your money? Could the fastes
Speaker 1: will be that? See, that's not a good answer you
Speaker 1: guys either, because I don't always you have all the information.
Speaker 1: I'm saying twice right so that I ain't already hit
Speaker 1: me the second time. I don't like to let people
Speaker 1: know exactly how much I win, or how much I bet,
Speaker 1: or if I have any money left. I kind of like,
Speaker 1: so you just lie. I lie on that a lot
Speaker 1: because I'm married, so I have to lie. I have to.
Speaker 1: That was the most prolific thing. I have to lie
Speaker 1: about that, because if I want to I'm married, I
Speaker 1: have to lie on that. I have to lie about that.
Speaker 1: But the fast find I lost money was like one
Speaker 1: of those bus trips um you can take you three
Speaker 1: am and they were making that your limit for the day.
Speaker 1: Aufter a t M and I went to the crap
Speaker 1: table put three hundred dollars down. I lost it on
Speaker 1: one role that was like one like two minutes, three minutes.
Speaker 1: Now I have no more money, So I go to
Speaker 1: the A t M and they say, you can't get
Speaker 1: no more money. Now I do remember part of this story,
Speaker 1: but this is not what I was thinking about. I
Speaker 1: didn't know you went and lost in one I don't
Speaker 1: know that one role that I'm talking about. That's different.
Speaker 1: Right If you go to the a TM and you
Speaker 1: bet that's that's that's not But I'm asking you, what's
Speaker 1: what's the fastest you ever went to Vegas? Like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna gonna have fun and gavel and the fastest you
Speaker 1: ever lost? I was gonna be there four days. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna lost all my money in one day. One time
Speaker 1: in which game was craps. See what how how are
Speaker 1: you betting in craps? Well, I bet craps. I'm not
Speaker 1: a successful with craps because I bet this. I bet
Speaker 1: I'm gonna think of the number that's gonna roll on
Speaker 1: the dice, and that's what I did. So like you laugh,
Speaker 1: at that. But it works if we went to a
Speaker 1: crap table right now and the old guys shooting dice,
Speaker 1: So I look at the person that's shooting, older gentleman
Speaker 1: shoot the dice. They rolled six and eight most of
Speaker 1: the time, so I'm guessing when it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: six or you know why a roll six and eight
Speaker 1: most of the time, because those are the numbers that
Speaker 1: you can roll the most besides just making sure. But
Speaker 1: but they roll six old people. I was like, well
Speaker 1: do yeah, because it's just the way I look at it.
Speaker 1: When you get older gentlemen there. I don't know what
Speaker 1: it is. I don't know if it's the luck or
Speaker 1: the way they throw the dice, but they can roll
Speaker 1: for a while. So I'm looking at the things. As
Speaker 1: weird as that sound, I know what you're talked about.
Speaker 1: It seems like old people be on the whatever and
Speaker 1: they dice down. They just fossil out there, and they
Speaker 1: rolled a lot of six and eggs. So I'm guessing
Speaker 1: four to five one, um, three, three, and I've been
Speaker 1: um just throwing money off for that. So you're betting
Speaker 1: on single rolls, single rolls, Yeah, that's what's the eyes on.
Speaker 1: Single rolls one who people don't know about this bed,
Speaker 1: so I'll see people in my bed is hard points,
Speaker 1: hard ways. I've been on three threes, four fours all day,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean because they paid it ten to one.
Speaker 1: But you don't lose until somebody craps out or they
Speaker 1: hit that point on the dice. So you're betting. So
Speaker 1: that's that we have it. That's the difference between betting
Speaker 1: and gabbling. That's betting. I'm gabbling when I'm telling you
Speaker 1: four to on the hop one role one role, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be four too for fourteen and one fourteen the
Speaker 1: ones you get for that on that down. Philosophy of
Speaker 1: that is that is the best bet, and I hit
Speaker 1: that bet. Now I want to have a lot of
Speaker 1: money on the bed. That's the problem. I always hit
Speaker 1: that bed when I have ten dollars where I put
Speaker 1: out third. But it's to me, it's the best bet
Speaker 1: when you hit it because it pays like a horse race. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you can bet on six six and it paes
Speaker 1: thirty one. Yeah, you couldn't do that. How many times
Speaker 1: can you hit six six? You need it one way?
Speaker 1: You and how had the person I'm told you that
Speaker 1: shooting hits roll those numbers, so they roll six all
Speaker 1: the time. So when you bet, and do you bet
Speaker 1: four to three, three, five, three four, four and two
Speaker 1: six at one time? No, I do three on them.
Speaker 1: I'll tell them about three way eight. That's the three
Speaker 1: ways eight can come. So I'll give them three hundred
Speaker 1: dollars because because to me, what will make sense on
Speaker 1: that bed is if you're playing right around sixty bucks.
Speaker 1: If it's all fourteen and one right, and you're right.
Speaker 1: If I'm betting, I'm betting four, two, three, three, one five, right,
Speaker 1: those are the three ways you can hit it on six,
Speaker 1: and then on the eight, I'm betting two four. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: you know eight is to six, three five four four
Speaker 1: That's how I'll bet. So that means every time you shoot,
Speaker 1: you you should be playing sixty dollars. Right. The math
Speaker 1: in me, I'm just saying, let's say you paying ten
Speaker 1: dollars because it play fourteen the one right. If you're
Speaker 1: playing ten dollars, right, that's sixty dollars every bet, right,
Speaker 1: So each time you roll the dice, I would bet
Speaker 1: that because you get two chances to get your money back.
Speaker 1: And you're talking about someone who always thow six and
Speaker 1: eight yea. So if somebody goes on the road constantly
Speaker 1: hitting that, you know every time they hit you, you're
Speaker 1: you're you're, you're getting eighty dollars. Have you ever seen
Speaker 1: six and eight on on someone rolling they hit like
Speaker 1: five times? Sure, I've seen it. I've seen the person
Speaker 1: hits six and eight five times, But that I would
Speaker 1: have six or three way sixth the same time. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm said, right, That's not that's what I see.
Speaker 1: This is a gambler in The gambler in me says
Speaker 1: this because because because the are that's that's that's the compulsive,
Speaker 1: that's that's a skill with me, that's the composer. That's
Speaker 1: a skills composal me. Skilling something I can't stop myself
Speaker 1: from doing it right. Skilled is something you do built
Speaker 1: off repetition. You can't skillfully call the dice. I can't
Speaker 1: know you can make an estimate of the dice the
Speaker 1: data is wrong. Like the issue with the with CRAPS
Speaker 1: is like let's say if it pays out fourteen to
Speaker 1: one the occurrence statistically, it's not going to be one
Speaker 1: to four teen because the house is gonna stack it
Speaker 1: and off, I won the sixteen, and they're gonna do
Speaker 1: one to fourteen so that they always average out of victory. Sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with that. So that's that's that's my issue
Speaker 1: with craps. So wait a minute. You skillfully are going
Speaker 1: to be able to call the dice. I believe. So
Speaker 1: I've done it, not with the hundred on there. I
Speaker 1: did with the hundred on there twice in my life,
Speaker 1: but not with the hundred, but I could do it
Speaker 1: with like like a Sunday finer bed. People are looking, man,
Speaker 1: I'm saying I was doing it so easily that rescipees
Speaker 1: to her. She passed away recently she saw me doing it.
Speaker 1: She said, what better you doing? I said, I'm called hi,
Speaker 1: the dunk called the number I want. She started doing
Speaker 1: on it and start winning. She was like, thank you
Speaker 1: for telling me how to do that. And she was
Speaker 1: just doing it. It's called a number that she was
Speaker 1: thinking that might the dice might roll on and she
Speaker 1: was making money. To me, it's skilled because I'm I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the perfect everyone. Can you don't pick us
Speaker 1: a random. You watch the game and as we go
Speaker 1: around the table, I'm looking at people who like if
Speaker 1: I see a young guy going to the table. I've
Speaker 1: been against them because they throw the dice either too fast,
Speaker 1: too hard, or they do something something weird. Don't want
Speaker 1: the dice, so I always do the dog the don't
Speaker 1: A lot of times it works that way. So you
Speaker 1: say it's not a skill because you might can't understand it,
Speaker 1: because you can't do it understand only a few people
Speaker 1: have that skill. My definition of what skill is, it's
Speaker 1: not a skill. Huh. By definition, it's not what I
Speaker 1: think of skilled. By definition, it's not a skill. It's
Speaker 1: just something that's not that you can understand because you
Speaker 1: can't do it. I didn't say you can't understand it
Speaker 1: because you can't do it and hit the bank shot.
Speaker 1: Young guys don't. It's different. That's you practice. You can't
Speaker 1: practice calling the dice, and the guy can practice throwing
Speaker 1: the dice. I agree, and that's why I agree with him.
Speaker 1: With old heads, I can't practice. I'm watching the table.
Speaker 1: I'm watching this. I'm watching it go around, and I'm
Speaker 1: watching when it get to this guy, he throws a
Speaker 1: lot of six and eggs. I'm looking for the person
Speaker 1: on the table that throws a lot of six and
Speaker 1: looking for the week. I'm looking for that person or
Speaker 1: the strong stucker on the field. I'm looking for the
Speaker 1: six and eight person. And I believe or not all
Speaker 1: it's a person's on the table who they do it
Speaker 1: in one role. They could they could throw six like
Speaker 1: four times. I see why craps is your worst game.
Speaker 1: I say, this was my worst guy. I want to
Speaker 1: be participating, But my best game is horse racing. What's
Speaker 1: the most you ever run? With horse racing? And horse racing?
Speaker 1: This is why I love horse racing. I bet ten
Speaker 1: dollars ten dollars, and that's why people get like you said, addicted.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that, but that is like and it
Speaker 1: wasn't hard. It was because the last leg of the
Speaker 1: of the Breeder's Cup race, I've been watching this horse
Speaker 1: and I'm like, why is this horse odd so high?
Speaker 1: So I singled that horse and that horse was eighty
Speaker 1: to one. And there's a guy who had signed the
Speaker 1: ticket from me or whatever he's every time he sees me,
Speaker 1: he says, remember that time you want that horse. I
Speaker 1: actually want more that picked four paid somebody else signed
Speaker 1: a ticket because I was that's a different different things. Well,
Speaker 1: you don't want to be a lyable for the tax situation.
Speaker 1: So the other guy was laughing off of the TAXI
Speaker 1: I don't want he was, I don't. I didn't care
Speaker 1: how much I get my thousand. But he got the
Speaker 1: tax credit too because they took taxes out of him
Speaker 1: so he could he made a nice little thing. I
Speaker 1: was happy with just winning with I didn't just want
Speaker 1: to pick four, but I also had the horse too,
Speaker 1: so I actually won more than twenty five though to
Speaker 1: pick four pay? How often do you play the lottery?
Speaker 1: We should be like as in the lottery lottery, the
Speaker 1: California anything anything that holds up the line at seven
Speaker 1: eleven because get the ship. What's the most you ever
Speaker 1: won at the lottery? The most I want the lottery
Speaker 1: is you're talking about scratchers? Are you talking about anything? Well,
Speaker 1: we'll scratcher. I won so I had a scratcher one day. Um,
Speaker 1: that would be the most in scratches in one lump. Scratches.
Speaker 1: People win scratches, Yeah, I know, somebody wins all the time.
Speaker 1: What's the most you ever won with lottery? Daidy three?
Speaker 1: Which that's the game I played the most? One day?
Speaker 1: I had had my number ten times and a number
Speaker 1: hit and I had all I think it paid. Um,
Speaker 1: I can't remember what whether it paid, but I had
Speaker 1: a ten times, had two tickets of it. I had
Speaker 1: ten times I hit that number on a day three
Speaker 1: I can't remember, it's been so long. I very rarely
Speaker 1: hit any big numbers with that, but I do hit
Speaker 1: the dirty three. I can win like two hundred, three hundred,
Speaker 1: four hundred stuff like that. So I sold a dollar bet. So. Um,
Speaker 1: that's crazy when you think about where numbers came from,
Speaker 1: and then they used to arrest people for numbers and
Speaker 1: now they just run their own game. California, some bus
Speaker 1: shit everywhere is doing a lottery though. But I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: when you think about it, they put people in jail
Speaker 1: for running numbers, and then they was like, this is
Speaker 1: a game we like. Well that's what everything. They put
Speaker 1: people in jail for liquor, remember probition down some marijuana. Now,
Speaker 1: so we we evolved, so and the things. That's why
Speaker 1: I like about gambling, But are we involving that it's
Speaker 1: something that's legally way to increase some money that you
Speaker 1: want to invest in. It's legal, That's why I like.
Speaker 1: So you call gambling and investment. I like, I like
Speaker 1: the lot of the lottery is a discretionary donation to
Speaker 1: the out of control public school teachers pension fund. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're not don't have the balls or the political cloud
Speaker 1: to come out and say we're gonna add four points
Speaker 1: to the state income tax or light their hair on
Speaker 1: fire and move out. So they said we'll do is
Speaker 1: We'll create this system where if you want to go
Speaker 1: throw your money into this thing for fun, you can
Speaker 1: just go ahead and fund the teachers for fun, create
Speaker 1: or steal mm hmm. They're not stealing anything. I've never
Speaker 1: I've never seen a person from the state of California
Speaker 1: walk up and hist somebody for lottery ticket money. No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We said, they're creating the lottery, like, steal
Speaker 1: this idea from people, and then the people, Yeah, people
Speaker 1: need people. We put pritty was like, oh what we
Speaker 1: could do this better? Oh yeah, fund the teachers. That's funny.
Speaker 1: So you still don't think you're a composited gambler. I'm
Speaker 1: absolutely not a comple gabble for fun. It's entertaining. Do
Speaker 1: people smoke crack for fun if that's what they choose
Speaker 1: to do. I don't think people smoke crack to get ahead.
Speaker 1: I think that there are a lot of people who
Speaker 1: are gamblers hardcore who think this is my ticket to
Speaker 1: whatever it is. But he doesn't think that. That's where
Speaker 1: he's tried to tempt me to draw the line. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So if he's doing it for fun,
Speaker 1: it's recreation. He's not trying to get ahead. That would
Speaker 1: kind of make him a composial gambler. No, because compostal me,
Speaker 1: I can't stop doing it, do anything to do it.
Speaker 1: How long have you been gambling my whole life? What's
Speaker 1: the longest you've gone without gambling in the last five
Speaker 1: honestly the longest? Like are you just say compostals? Like
Speaker 1: how explaining to youse? Like composal? Like I can't stop it.
Speaker 1: I just told you I love the kind of city
Speaker 1: chiefs I gabble every day. If I told you I
Speaker 1: did not bet on that, that shows you right there
Speaker 1: there is no amount of compostal gabbler. So if somebody
Speaker 1: doesn't smoke one rock one time, they're not a crackhead.
Speaker 1: They passed up on these rocks. Like I don't know
Speaker 1: about craig or crackheads. I know about gambling. Let's say
Speaker 1: an alcoholic. If an alcoholic passes up on the beer,
Speaker 1: I'm not an alcoholic, so I can't. I can't tell
Speaker 1: you anything about that. Car asked me something about what
Speaker 1: I do, and I can ask you a question. I'm
Speaker 1: giving you hypothetical because I don't do that. Look, I
Speaker 1: do that all right, when like when I was younger,
Speaker 1: and I drank a ton like a like like Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame numbers. I didn't need to drink all the time,
Speaker 1: but when it was time to drink, it was not
Speaker 1: going to be stopped. Did you consider yourself he was
Speaker 1: an alcoholic, was you? It was close, It was very close.
Speaker 1: It's something wrong in the African college, it probably would
Speaker 1: have been a real problem. Is it something wrong with
Speaker 1: being a compulsive gambler? Yes, so that could be why
Speaker 1: you maybe would denied