1 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly show. It is the Jesse 2 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: Kelly Show. Another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show on 3 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: a Tuesday. And I'm warning you now we're done with 4 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: politics for a for a bit. I don't know how 5 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: long it's gonna take me. This is not gonna be 6 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: a multi part series. So however long it takes me, 7 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: it might be a half hour. I doubt that might 8 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: be an hour, hopefully, maybe more. We're gonna go talk 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: about a very important part of history that may apply 10 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: to you and your family, something people don't know about, 11 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know about. We will get 12 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: back to politics when that's done, and we'll make fun 13 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: of dirty communists in Hollywood and this idiot woman police 14 00:00:55,320 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: chief in Cincinnati, and get to other emails. But we 15 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: get emails all the time on this show, and funny 16 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: one's great, one's bad ones, insulting ones, it doesn't matter, right, 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: But we have had a lot. We have had a 18 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: lot of ones that touch us in one way or another, 19 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: and this is one of those ones. In fact, Chris, 20 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: if you don't mind, I should have told you this beforehand. 21 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: Email this guy and let him know we did it. 22 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: When we're done with it. I have the email right here. 23 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it to you. Okay, So we got 24 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: this email a while back, and well I'll read it 25 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: for you. This was in August. Dear Jesse, I would 26 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: like to respectfully request that you consider doing a history 27 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: segment on the bridge over the River Quai. My grandfather 28 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: served in the British Army as part of the artillery 29 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: and was later captured by the Japanese. He spent over 30 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: three years as a prisoner of war, repeatedly forced to 31 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: rebuild the bridge after Allied bombings. The stories he shared 32 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: were both horrific and tragic, yet they also reflected extraordinary 33 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 1: resilience and courage in the face of unimaginable hardship. Sadly, 34 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: about ten years ago, he took his own life following 35 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: the sudden loss of his son, my father, as the 36 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: combined weight of grief and his wartime memories became too 37 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: much to bear. I know your focus is primarily on 38 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: American history, but if you could share even a brief 39 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: mention of this chapter in history, it would mean a 40 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: great deal to me in my family and says I 41 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: can say his name, I don't want to read his 42 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: whole name. But his name is Brandon. So Brandon, if 43 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: you are listening now, we are about to tell this tale. 44 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't just apply to Britain. This is a British story, 45 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: an Australian story, a Dutch story, an American story, an 46 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: Asian story. But this is a very very ugly part 47 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: of history that a lot of people don't know. How 48 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: ugly is this part of history. I watched an interview 49 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: as I was just doing some research and cobbling together 50 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: some things so I could tell you this little tale. 51 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: I watched an interview with a very very very old man, 52 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: had to be pushing a hundred, so old, you know, 53 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: you could tell he was just hunched over or just 54 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: very old, very old. And he said the worst nightmare 55 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: he ever had about this time period was ten days ago. 56 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: I don't know when it was filmed, but it wasn't 57 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: that long ago. Ten days ago, he's got to be 58 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: pushing one hundred, wakes up drenched in sweat, night terror. 59 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: How traumatic does something have to be for you to 60 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: go through it when you're twenty and wake up with 61 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: a horrible nightmare eighty years later? How horrible? How traumatic 62 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: does something have to be so let's talk about that something. 63 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: This is the story of the railway of death, the 64 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: Death railway, the Burma Siam railway. And this is a 65 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: World War two tale about resilience, Japanese captivity, barbarism. It's 66 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: a tough tale, all right. Now, let's clarify a couple 67 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: of things right off the bat Burma where is that that? 68 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: Does thing exists anymore? Siam? Where is that? It doesn't 69 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: exist anymore? The modern day country of Thailand that was 70 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: known as Siam back in the day. All right, Siam. 71 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 1: So when I say Siam, we're talking Thailand. In fact, 72 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: just for ease of knowing this, of remembering this, I'm 73 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: probably just gonna refer to what as Thailand, so I 74 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: don't confuse people. What is Burma, Myanmar, Myanmar depending on 75 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: how you pronounce it. It's a country right next to Thailand. Now, 76 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: I want to give you in case you're driving not 77 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: looking at a map. You're welcome to look at a map. 78 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: It'll help you as always, But if you're driving, don't 79 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: worry about it. I want to give you an idea 80 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: of where these places are on the planet, because it's 81 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: going to matter a lot for our story. In fact, 82 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: we have to do a lot of background here. You 83 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: know where Vietnam is, you can at least identify roughly. Oh, 84 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: that's Southeast Asia. Okay. So you have in this big peninsula. 85 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: There's a big peninsula where Vietnam is on the total 86 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: east side of it. There is Cambodia in this place. 87 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: There is Laos in this place. There's Thailand in this place. 88 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: There's me and Maar in this place. This is where 89 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: it's all taking place. Now, what is happening? Okay. The 90 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: Japanese Empire, the Japanese Empire leading up to WW two, 91 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: We've talked about it many times. I'm not going to 92 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: go into all of the background. They were now a 93 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: modern country. They had modernized. They were extremely militaristic, a 94 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: country that really prioritized and valued its military history, all 95 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: that Samurai Bushido code stuff. Really cool history, to be 96 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: honest with you. But they became a country run by 97 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: its military. That's a dangerous place to be. Dudes, love 98 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: the idea of that, at least briefly. This is a 99 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: very guy centric thing. The country run by the military 100 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: kind of sounds cool because we respect the military. Oh sweet, 101 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: it'll be tough, it'll be disciplined. They'll have shiny boots. 102 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: But you really don't ever want your country run by 103 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: the military because people generally ever heard the saying, if 104 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,119 Speaker 1: the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks 105 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: like a nail. You ever heard that saying. It's a 106 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: great saying. It's very true. Whatever you've got in your 107 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: tool belt, whatever your thing is, you are going to 108 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: look at everything as an opportunity to use your thing 109 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: to solve it. If you're a great talker, you're extremely charismatic. 110 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: No matter what the situation is in business, maybe you're 111 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: trying to chat up a dime at the local park, 112 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: trying to take her out on a date, You're going 113 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: to use your charm, your words to try to win 114 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: her over. If you're in a bar and things start 115 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: to get hairy, you probably crack a joke by somebody 116 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: a beer. It's what you have in your tool belt. 117 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: You become a country run by the military, everything is 118 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: going to simply have a military solution. Hey, where Japan. 119 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: We have a pretty tough population, pretty tough military. What 120 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: we don't have is stuff. We don't have resources. We 121 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: need some You know who has a lot Mainland Asia, China, Thailand, 122 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: mean Mar, India. They're going to play a big role 123 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: in this, or at least the reason behind it. They 124 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: have all kinds of stuff. And it's weird when you 125 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: study any point in history, it's funny to me, at least, 126 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: I've always found it funny how often things come back 127 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: to the same place. You know, this is one of 128 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: these things that's ancient. This area is just rich in stuff, 129 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: spices and rubber and oil and all the things people love, 130 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 1: things people need for various reasons. There's always going to 131 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: be a war. There always going to be a conflict there. 132 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: Japan starts to expand, they invade China. You already know 133 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: most of this. They invade China, they start working their 134 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: way through Asia. That's Vietnam, that's Thailand, that's Mianmar heading 135 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: to India. They're taking Singapore. They want the stuff. Now, 136 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: that works for a while. The problem with Japan, the 137 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: problem Japan was going to run into, and they knew 138 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: they were going to run into it is supplying troops 139 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: with the things they need. The old saying we've repeated 140 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: a thousand times on the show. It's a saying from 141 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: a marine. Amateurs study tactics professionals study logistics is so true. 142 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how great your army is. You can 143 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: have the shiniest, most brand new rifles even today, drones 144 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: and tanks and planes and everything's good. You could have 145 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: the best trained troop. They're all Navy seals. You know 146 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: what it means if they can't eat and don't have 147 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: any bullets, nothing, it means nothing. They're gonna starve to death. 148 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: The planes will never get off the ground. It means nothing. 149 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: You must supply your troops. That is a difficult thing. 150 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: When we're talking about islands, the Pacific Ocean, the Navy 151 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: comes into play. Japan needed a solution. We'll talk about 152 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: that in a moment. Before we talk about that solution, 153 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: let me talk to you about relief factor. Now. 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And we are doing 172 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: history right now on It's the Railway of Death, the 173 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: Burma Siam railway. And I need to clarify something before 174 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: I continue. Jewish producer Chris asked me during the break 175 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: the bridge over the river, quhy was that something that 176 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: was real? Was just the name of a movie? Okay, 177 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: so the movie, it's a very famous movie. The movie 178 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: came from a book. The book was a work of 179 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: fiction that had all kinds of reality in it, all right, 180 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: So they the author of the book took real stories 181 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: of the men who live through this cobbled together a 182 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: airfingers quote fictional novel, and then they made a fictional 183 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: movie over it. But there was a ridger river quhy 184 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: and there was a bridge over it. I'm just telling 185 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: you now the real tale of what happened and what gosh, 186 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: so many thousands of people died during Right now, back 187 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: to what we were discussing, Japan needs the resources. Japan 188 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: invades China. Japan starts storming through Asia and taking things away, 189 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 1: not just from America. Remember they took the Philippines from us. 190 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: They're taking things away from the British and this is 191 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: happening at a speed the Allied countries were simply not 192 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: prepared for. We had a military presence in the Philippines. 193 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: It was not enough. The Japanese simply stormed in faster, 194 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,239 Speaker 1: more fierce than we were ready for. They took the Philippines. 195 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: They took a lot of prisoners. We'll come back to that. 196 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: The same thing is happening in these other Asian places, 197 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: many of them are controlled by the British Empire, namely Singapore. Well, 198 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: Singapore is a big one. Remember Britain at this point 199 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: in time controls India as well. Now, Singapore was thought 200 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: to be the jewel of the British Empire, and it 201 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: was thought to be untakable, it's fortified. Surely that turned 202 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: out to be a complete joke. I have read many 203 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: things from Brits who were there, British soldiers who were there, 204 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: and to a man, they talk about how lame their 205 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: training was, how lame their equipment was. It just sounds 206 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: to me listening to these guys they were a very 207 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: complacent British Empire, not at all ready for an aggressive, 208 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: well trained, fierce Japanese force. Now, before we go any 209 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: further in this, I need to talk about the Japanese 210 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: force itself and their mentality. You already are aware, cause 211 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: we've talked about it many times. They saw themselves as 212 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: samurai warriors. That is how they saw themselves. Their officers 213 00:14:54,480 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: carried samurai swords, They had contests on how many heads 214 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: you could chop off of living prisoners with your samurai sword. 215 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: They saw themselves as samurai. So that was part of 216 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: their culture, military culture. Now let's discuss their military training itself. 217 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: I have read and watched testimony from Japanese soldiers at 218 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: this time. They were part of the Japanese military, and 219 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: they talked about wanting to kill themselves during their boot camp. 220 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: That's how brutal. It was. Brutal in a variety of ways. 221 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: One of the ways you read about this consistently over 222 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: and over and over again. With the Japanese military at 223 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: this time, they loved to hit, hitting, slapping, punching, kicking. 224 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: It's just what they did. And I know that that's 225 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: something that occurred in militaries around the planet, occasionally here, 226 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: occasionally there. This is a daily occurrence at this point 227 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: in time in the Japanese military. If you have people 228 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: above you, they will slap you. They will hit you. 229 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: It's not just screaming at you and go do some pushups. 230 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: They'll kick you. They will hurt you physically. And it's 231 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: not limited by higher ups. If you are above anyone 232 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: else in ranks, in rank in the military, you will slap, kick, 233 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: and punch the people underneath you. It was it was 234 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: considered to be an important part of their military training. 235 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: You get slapped, you get kicked, you get punched, and 236 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: you in turn will slap, kick, and punch the people 237 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: underneath you. I'm not trying to make excuses, but I 238 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: am trying to drive home the point. Physically physically abuse, 239 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: using people you have power over was part of their culture. 240 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: It was woven into every part of their culture. They 241 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: believed in hitting, kicking, slapping, punching. It is what they did. 242 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: In fact, it's part of what sparked such a vicious 243 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: gorilla movement in the Philippines. The Japanese took the Philippines 244 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: from US, and there was all kinds of amazing Filipino resistance. 245 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: The Filipinos have something deep against getting slapped. No one 246 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: mics get slapped, but for them, it was like a 247 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: mortal offense, and the Japanese were always slapping them. The 248 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: second you slapped somebody, well now he's going to join 249 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: the resistance and he's gonna shoot you next chance he gets. 250 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: That's kind of how it was. So that is part 251 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: of it. There's another part of it, the idea of surrendering, 252 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: of becoming a prisoner, and talk about that in a moment. 253 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: Before we talk about that. As we're talking about Asia, 254 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: let's talk about bamboo. You ever heard of bamboo sheets? 255 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: You know why Cozy Earth is getting so big and 256 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: so famous so fast. It's all this bamboo that they use. 257 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: The sheets, they're like silky soft, but They're all so stretchy, 258 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: and they breathe, so they're hypoallergenic. If you have sensitive skin, 259 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: they're wonderful for it. I sleep hot. I can sleep 260 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: in these and I don't roast. They are so confident 261 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: in their sheets. You get to try them for a 262 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: hundred nights risk free. One hundred nights. They're practically daring 263 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: you to send them back. That's Cozy Earth. Visit cozyearth 264 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: dot com use my code Jesse for twenty percent off. 265 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: That's cozyearth dot com code Jesse. And if you get 266 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: a post purchase survey, let them know you heard about 267 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: Cozy Earth from Jesse Kelly. Because home isn't just where 268 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: you live, it's how you feel. Let's go home with 269 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: Cozy Earth. Back to the story next Truth Attitude, Jesse Kelly. 270 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Fantastic Tuesday, 271 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: stepping away from politics for a few to do a 272 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: little history on the death railway. Back to what we 273 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: were discussing. This is post w W two that were 274 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: discussed in the conduct of the Japanese military right now, 275 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: and I was talking about their training, how they hit 276 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: each other, slap each other, kick each other all the time. 277 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: This is what they believe in. There's another part of it, 278 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: though they believed it was part of their culture. Drill 279 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: a couple big parts of it. First, they believed that 280 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 1: a true warrior is never taken prisoner. Ever, mothers instructed 281 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: their sons to kill themselves before for being taken prisoner. Now, 282 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: how culturally ingrained was this, because remember we talk about 283 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: it all the time. Nothing is more powerful than culture 284 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: in a society. It's way more powerful than laws. What 285 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: was the culture? So much of Japan is rural. Like 286 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: most places, rural is the majority, right, small little villages. 287 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: That's so much of Japan. Let's say ab and I 288 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: were Japanese in nineteen forty, and let's say our oldest son, James, 289 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: goes off to war for the Japanese military and he 290 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: gets captured alive. He is captured alive by the Allies. 291 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: You would think that would be a relief for aub 292 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: and I to find out he is alive. Well, praise God, 293 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: he was not killed. Praise God, he's alive. Let's hope 294 00:20:54,520 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: he returns to us one day safely. Nope, In fact, 295 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: we would be in physical danger in the village where 296 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: we live. This is a small village where everyone requires, 297 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: everyone leans on each other. You're buying this and that. 298 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: I could very well tonight in my Japanese village, leaving 299 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: my work, I could very well be jumped by the 300 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: men in the village and beaten to death or severely 301 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: maimed because my son disgraced the family by being captured alive. 302 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: That happened to people in Japan. That was the culture. 303 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: That's how against being captured alive was. Now that Now 304 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: combine that with the slapping, the kicking, the punching with 305 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: the final thing here, and that's the feelings of racial superiority. 306 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: I know that your dirtball history professor taught you that 307 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: white people are the only ones who've ever been racist 308 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: in history. They're the only ones who've ever oppressed anyone 309 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: else on the color of their skin. But sadly, your 310 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: history professor was a dirtball America hating communist who doesn't 311 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: know anything about history at all. All peoples in history, 312 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: from time to time have felt their racially superior to 313 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: other peoples. This happens all the time. I know, I 314 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: know well the Nazis the Japanese were just as racist 315 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: as the Nazis. They not only felt they were superior 316 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: to all other Asian people, they felt they were superior 317 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: to all white people. And by the way, the white 318 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: people at this point in time, felt that they were 319 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: far superior to the Japanese. Referred to them as gooks 320 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,239 Speaker 1: and monkeys and all kinds. This was the world, this 321 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: was it's how all peoples are, how all peoples operated. 322 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: The Japanese felt that people below them, the Chinese especially, 323 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: were rats, dogs. They referred to them as these things. 324 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: And like I said, they really felt they were racially 325 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: superior to the Caucasian mainly Caucasian powers. They were fighting Britain, Australia, America, 326 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: the Dutch, these people. All right, now that's the background 327 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: on the culture. They start storming through Asia, like I said, Thailand, Vietnam, Myanmar, India. 328 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: The Japanese are beating us up and they're taking away things. 329 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: They're taking Singapore, they're taking these things. At the same 330 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: time this is happening, something bad is happening to Japan. 331 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: Their naval superiority they had at the very beginning of 332 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: the war is starting to go away. The allies, not 333 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: just US, but a lot of it is us the 334 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: Allies are building up, the navies building up their expertise, 335 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: and the Japanese Navy, which was good but limited because 336 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: they couldn't replace the ships. The Japanese Navy was starting 337 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: to get pounded at sea. They were losing ground. Well, 338 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: I already said, look at the map Japan's and island. 339 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: You have all these troops in Thailand. You have these 340 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: troops in India. How are you getting them bombs and bullets? 341 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: How are you getting them medicine? Clothes, food? I don't 342 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: care how Samurai they are. They have to eat, they 343 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: have to have something to shoot, they have to have 344 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: you see what I mean, You have to supply them. Well, 345 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: this is where they borrowed something an idea from the British. 346 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: The British had had an idea that they rightly dismissed, 347 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: which the credit to them for dismissing it. But they 348 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: had had an idea before. And the idea was, what 349 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: if we build a railroad? What if we build a railroad? 350 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: It's essentially three hundred miles or four hundred kilometers. I 351 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: don't know what exactly the conversion. I know they kept 352 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: saying four hundred kilometers. I didn't look it up. I'm 353 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: an American, I don't deal in kilometers. But it was 354 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: a four hundred kilometer railroad running essentially from Thailand, connecting 355 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: Thailand and Myanmar. A railroad, a railroad that cuts directly 356 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: through some of the thickest, most hostile jungle on planet Earth. 357 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: Every disease, every poisonous snake, lions and tigers and bears, 358 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: oh my spiders, the size of your hand inhospitable doesn't 359 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: describe this portion. In fact, to this day, much of 360 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: what we're discussing here is still not inhabited. There are 361 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: villages here, in villages there, but even with the modern 362 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: technology we have today, even with modern modern medicine that 363 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,719 Speaker 1: we have today, so much of this stuff is just 364 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: back to be in jungle. No one wants to live there. 365 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, there are villages, there are 366 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,719 Speaker 1: people around, but not a lot. Britain looks at the 367 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: project and this is what they came up with. They said, 368 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: if we try to build this railroad, this is before 369 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: World War two, if we try to build this railroad, 370 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: it's going to take us five years. We think it's 371 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: going to take us five years. They did kind of 372 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: a cost benefit analysis thing and this is a very 373 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: They were a very modern, very sharp empire back in 374 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: the day, and they said, the juice is not worth 375 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: the squeeze. Too many people are going to die here. 376 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: We can't. It's just it's not drop it, just drop 377 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: the whole thing. So they dropped it. Japan, facing trouble 378 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,239 Speaker 1: on the high Seas, steps up and says, you know what, 379 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,239 Speaker 1: I like this British plan. But here's the problem. This 380 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,719 Speaker 1: is already nineteen forty two. The war is already just 381 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: beginning to break against Japan. Japan doesn't have five years. 382 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: They can't have a five year plan. It's not just 383 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: that they need this railroad built. They need this railroad 384 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: built now. They need it completed, and they need it 385 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: completed quickly. Now here's why it gets so ugly. Combine 386 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: everything I already told you about the brutality of the 387 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: Japanese military and their culture and all that, the racial 388 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: superiority stuff, all that. Combine that with the fact they're 389 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: sitting on tens of thousands, honestly over one hundred thousand 390 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: Allied prisoners of war. These people are in their possession. 391 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: Japan looks at them as lesser lower Already they think 392 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: they're scummy because they got captured. So Japan says, well, 393 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: if we got to do it, and we got to 394 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: do it fast, we've got an army of slaves we 395 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: can use. We'll continue in a moment. Jesse Kelly Becksian. 396 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Tuesday. 397 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: You can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. 398 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: In case you're wondering if I'm going to wrap up 399 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: this history story in ten minutes, The answer to that 400 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: question is most definitely no. She's stretching on a little bit. 401 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how deep it'll go in the next hour. 402 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: We'll get back to politics at some point. But we're 403 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: telling the story of the Allied POW's building the Railway 404 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: of Death in WW two across some of the worst, 405 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: most inhospitable jungle on the planet. So that was the setup, 406 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: that was the why, that was the idea. Japan needs 407 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: a railroad. Japan needs a long railroad. They need it 408 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: built through the jungle where there is currently nothing. They 409 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,479 Speaker 1: need it hacked through the jungle, and they don't have 410 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: five years. They need it fast because their troops are 411 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: going to start starving to death, very very quickly. Now 412 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: let me explain, Let me explain what how you may 413 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: have found yourself if you were a brit if you 414 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: were in Ausy, if you were an American, if you 415 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: were the Dutch. This is how you may have found 416 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: yourself working in hell. Let's say let's say you were 417 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: in the navy, maybe the British Navy, maybe the American Navy. 418 00:29:54,680 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: Same story applies to both. I've heard plenty boom torpedo 419 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: slams into your the side of your ship at night. 420 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: Things are on fire, things are smoky. You are below 421 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: deck and the ship is in such bad shape. The 422 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: ship has lost power. You can't see, you are choking 423 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: on the smoke. You have to find a way to 424 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: get up on top of the ship so you can 425 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: get out, because the ship is now disabled and the 426 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: Japanese Navy they're shelling it so they can send it 427 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: to the bottom of the ocean. You manage, by the 428 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: grace of God, to get clear to the top of 429 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: the ship. You get out, You jump into the water. 430 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: You start to swim, lord willing. You find something that floats, 431 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: maybe a life jacket. You remember you are alone, You 432 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: are at night. It's at night. You're alone in the ocean. 433 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: God knows how many of your friends are now dead, 434 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: and you're watching the flashes as the Japanese military is 435 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: sending your ship to the bottom of the ocean. But wait, 436 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: I bet you thought it couldn't get worse. Oh, it 437 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: most definitely can. After the noise of the ship shelling 438 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: dies down, you begin to hear screams, the screams of men, 439 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: followed by gunfire. What's going on? The Japanese are now 440 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: in smaller boats cruising around where the ship went down, 441 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: machine gunning the survivors in the water to ensure there 442 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: aren't any And you hear a Japanese boat approaching you. 443 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: By the way, this is some guy's true story. Otto Schwartz, 444 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: I think is his name. The Japanese boat begins to 445 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: approach you. You think you're about to die. You lay 446 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: your head to the side and play dead as they 447 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: pull up beside you, chattering in Japanese, pooing you with 448 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: the stick to see if you're worth the bullets it 449 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: will take to machine gun you. By the grace of God, 450 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: Well maybe they decide not to. They decide you're already dead, 451 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: and they motor off to machine gun more of your friends. 452 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: You start swimming. You are exhausted, you are frightened, you're thirsty, 453 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: you're hungry, and you eventually find your way onto the shore. 454 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: But you see, the Japanese are taking all these territories. 455 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: Because you've swam to the shore doesn't mean you're out 456 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: of the woods. You have jumped right out of the 457 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: frying pan and right into the fire. The Japanese are 458 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: already on the beach with some of your friends. They 459 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: decided not to machine gun, and they immediately hold you 460 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: at gunpoint and start beating on you for fun. Then 461 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: then they decide, well, we have a railroad to build. 462 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: We've got another slave here, let's get him to where 463 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: we need him to go. Where are they going to 464 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: send you? First? They're going to send you to something 465 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: known to history now as a hell ship? A hell ship? 466 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: What was a hell ship? Japan did not use their 467 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: finest ships, as you can imagine. They took the oldest, 468 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: old oldious, the oldest, rustiest, crappiest ships they could find 469 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: that had big steel holds in them, and they would 470 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: take allied prisoners and drop them down into the bottom. 471 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: Keep in mind it's one hundred and ten degrees outside. 472 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: When they dropped you into the bottom half, the men 473 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: have dysentery. There's hardly any water they lower down, and 474 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: there are no bathroom facilities to speak of. There's not 475 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: enough room to sit down. The stories you will read, 476 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: if you ever choose to do so, about the hell ships, 477 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: it boggles the mind. Men would regularly lose their minds. 478 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: Your mind would just simply shatter. This happened all the time. 479 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: Occasionally they'll open up the hatch and act like they're 480 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: going to allow you up, and occasionally they would allow 481 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: one or two up. Sometimes it was just a tease, though, 482 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: or sometimes they would They would find pleasure and throwing 483 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: garbage down on you, peeing on you down below. It's 484 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: awful on your hell ship. You eventually get to your 485 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: next spot, You get out, You breathe free air. You 486 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: think to yourself, I'm finally home free. Granted, you're sick 487 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: as a dog, dehydrated beyond belief and drained. Your drained, 488 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: and so were your friends. But the Japanese are not 489 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: going to waste fuel or anything like that. Getting you 490 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: where you need to go. Not quite yet, start marching. 491 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: You're sick, you're dehydrated. You and your friends, yes this 492 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: is If this sounds like the Baton death March, that 493 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: wasn't the only time this happen. You and everyone you know. 494 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: You're being marched to a prison camp. It's not five 495 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: miles away, it's one hundred miles away, and it's one 496 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: hundred and five degrees outside. When your friends fall to 497 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: the wayside and can't get up, the Japanese will bayonet them, 498 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: shoot them, cut their heads off. The Japanese. If they're 499 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: driving by in trucks and you happen to stumble in 500 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: front of the truck, they'll simply drive over you and laugh. 501 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: They'll walk by you and slap you in the face 502 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: as hard as they can. Maybe they'll hit you in 503 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: the back with your butt stock. They're one of their 504 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: favorite things to do. Was They cut off three to 505 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: four foot bamboo sticks and hit you every chance they could. 506 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: You are struggling to survive. Eventually you find your way 507 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: to a prison camp, but it's big, and it's just 508 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: there to get you ready to go to the next place. 509 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: You see. They're trying to get you into the jungle. 510 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 1: We'll continue there in just a moment, now let's talk 511 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 1: about something great. Abasing are dogs. It says so much 512 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: about us as a country that we love our dogs 513 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: the way we do because they're just such sweet, loyal creatures, 514 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: aren't they. They just are make your day better. So 515 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: they deserve rough greens. Your dog deserves to have, not 516 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 1: just a longer life, a healthier life. You know, our 517 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: dogs they get lethargic, start scratching all the time, digestive 518 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: systems a mess. This is because they don't have any nutrition. 519 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: They get dog food that has nothing in it. It's 520 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 1: empty calories. It's like you eating fast food every meal. 521 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: You'd have health problems. 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