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Speaker 1: This is Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty. Hey, everyone,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to a new episode of Let's Be Clear

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Speaker 1: with Shannon Doherty. Boy, this is going to be a

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Speaker 1: very fun episode because I have my twin, Jason Priestley

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Speaker 2: Hey, j.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny. You're my twins.

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Speaker 2: So great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, is the show that just it doesn't die.

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Speaker 1: It's like our you know, our legacy pretty much.

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Speaker 2: It is, it really is. It's it's remarkable how and

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Speaker 2: I heard about this earlier this week that so many

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Speaker 2: millennials and people like that discovered our show, and binge

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Speaker 2: watched our show during the COVID lockdown because what else

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Speaker 2: is there to do?

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, you it was either watching nine or to

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Speaker 1: an hour or learn how to make sour dough bread.

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Speaker 1: I did the latter, right, I did not get any

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Speaker 1: from you, So I'm a little disappointed, you know what.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry that, but I think we didn't want to

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Speaker 2: drive all the way out to the to the motherland

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Speaker 2: where you live. I know we were living, you know,

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Speaker 2: we were living right in town. You were a long

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Speaker 2: you're a long way out of town, am I.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty poor, I mean from you from where

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Speaker 1: you are now. It's I think I'm only like thirty

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Speaker 1: five minutes from you. Yeah, yeah, but if you try

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Speaker 1: to drive to where I currently am, it's really long drive.

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Speaker 2: That would be that would be a hell of a community.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: So the last time we saw each other was at

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Speaker 1: a convention, which was awesome. And you don't really do

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Speaker 1: a lot of them, but when we do, I think

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Speaker 1: what's really cool is the fans reaction to, like you

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Speaker 1: and I back together again. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, they love

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Speaker 1: that Brandon and Brenda connection.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they really do. And it's you know, it's fun.

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Speaker 2: You're right, I don't. I don't do a lot of

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Speaker 2: those cons but when I do do them, I'm always

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Speaker 2: amazed by the response that the show still gets and

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Speaker 2: just how rabid our fan base still is. It's it's remarkable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And like you said, like millennials started binge watching

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Speaker 1: it during COVID. It's it's the age range of people

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Speaker 1: that watch nine O two and oh and love nine

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Speaker 1: O two and oh is pretty remarkable. But it's also

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Speaker 1: a show that really helped kick off the teenage shows. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because before nine on two and oh, there there wasn't

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Speaker 1: the OC and all of those other teenage shows that

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Speaker 1: came after.

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Speaker 2: Dawson's Creek and all of them, right, One Tree Hill,

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Speaker 2: all of them. Right. Definitely, absolutely, it was you know

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Speaker 2: that the success that our show was able to experience

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Speaker 2: definitely changed the trajectory of television moving forward, because, you know,

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Speaker 2: people realized that they could target a YA audience or

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Speaker 2: seventeen to twenty four year old audience, even younger twelve

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Speaker 2: to seventeen and seventeen to twenty four. They could go

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day is really what it's

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Speaker 2: all about, right.

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Speaker 1: Right, Do you remember your audition process?

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Speaker 2: Yes, My audition process was very short. It was very short.

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Speaker 2: The first time I auditioned for the show was that

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Speaker 2: first reading that you and I did together in Aaron's

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Speaker 2: office over them a lot, and then the next time

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Speaker 2: my second audition was at Fox.

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Speaker 1: Didn't we audition together at Fox? Also?

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't remember were you there?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember being in that long haul, right, and

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Speaker 1: they had sort of whittled people down, and at some

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Speaker 1: point they let some people go, let some people stay, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, out of like the three Brendaz or whatever

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Speaker 1: and I remember we sort of you were already in

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Speaker 1: the room with you, and I think the network wanted

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Speaker 1: to see us together. Was it believable that we were twins?

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Speaker 1: And but I do I remember us being at network together.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, you know what, I believe you. I think

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Speaker 2: I was so nervous that day that you know, it

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Speaker 1: Banks Yeah, I mean that was for me. I think

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Speaker 1: so that means that that's the favorite. And once I

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Speaker 1: found out that somebody from New York was there, I

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Speaker 1: just said, I don't I'm not getting this part right.

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Speaker 1: There's way because they have a New Yorker here, and

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Speaker 1: So then I but once I went into the room

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Speaker 1: I think I think we're I think this is I

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Speaker 1: think this is Brandon, and I think I'm a Brenda.

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Speaker 1: And then we started working and you know, the one

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Speaker 1: thing obviously, you know, the podcast is called Let's be clear,

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Speaker 1: So I'm I try to be as transparent and authentic

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Speaker 1: with my personal experience and then everybody else's personal experience

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Speaker 1: that I speak to. So once we started working, I

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Speaker 1: think that first season was great. Everybody got along and

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Speaker 1: had very early birthdays really, And then I remember for me,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know the defining moment for you where

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Speaker 1: it was the cover of Rolling Stone magazine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was a big moment. That was

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Speaker 2: fun that day. All right.

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Speaker 1: Were there any other like defining moments for you of

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Speaker 2: I, you know, I sort of struggle with this because

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Speaker 2: It was. It was remarkable how we stuck around because

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that when you work five days a

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Speaker 1: myself and for Tori. Eventually that that took a whole

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Speaker 1: You know, prior to that, yeah, Tory and I would

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Speaker 1: is just you can't write this. You can't write this

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Speaker 1: in life. It's just it was. But I still, you know,

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Speaker 1: I loved my wardrobe. I loved my character. I loved

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Speaker 1: that they let me. They really let me improv almost

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Speaker 1: everything that they didn't force me to, you know, stick

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Speaker 1: with the dialogue that they wrote that. I was like, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: let me. I'm gonna I'm going to eat in every

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Speaker 1: single scene. And you looked at me and went are

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Speaker 1: you always going to wear a hat? Do you remember asking?

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Speaker 1: You're like, is it like a character thing? Are you

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Speaker 1: always gonna wear a hat? And I was like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know yet. Maybe Jay, Well, you know, can you

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Speaker 1: just push it back so the like you can get

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Speaker 1: on your face. I'm like, oh, he's trying to make

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Speaker 1: me look pretty cool. Okay, I'll do that. It was great.

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Speaker 1: How was a I mean I know that you were,

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Speaker 1: you know, going back and forth and you weren't there

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Speaker 1: towards the end, but how did you how did you

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Speaker 1: like that? That whole experience. What did you think of it?

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Speaker 1: Because it you know, we only did the six episodes

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Speaker 1: and then it got canceled. Yeah, do you think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe the concept was was the wrong concept for reboot.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we should have been actually playing our characters thirty

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Speaker 1: years later.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't, I don't, no, I mean that,

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Speaker 2: you know, the concept that we went with for that

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Speaker 2: reboot was like it was, it was so off the

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Speaker 2: wall and sort of avant garde that I think it

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Speaker 2: was difficult for people to wrap their heads around what

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Speaker 2: was really happening. And I think that a lot of

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Speaker 2: people tuned into the show thinking it was going to

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Speaker 2: be you know, we were all just you know, Brandon

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Speaker 2: has taken over the beach bed, and you know, like

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Speaker 2: it was going to be that. And I think when

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Speaker 2: they didn't get that, because I think they kind of

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Speaker 2: secretly they kind of wanted that, Yeah, And I think

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Speaker 2: that when they didn't get it, I think they they

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Speaker 2: they were disappointed, which is you never want to have

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Speaker 2: an audience be disappointed in the content that you're creating.

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Speaker 2: So I think, ultimately, I mean, I think it was

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Speaker 2: I think it was an interesting experience, and I think

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Speaker 2: that we you know, maybe helped to push the push

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Speaker 2: the envelope a little bit, but it was it what

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Speaker 2: the audience wanted obviously.

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Speaker 1: Not Yeah, I mean I sort of always thought that

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Speaker 1: it should have been if we were going to do it,

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Speaker 1: it should have been sort of like that show thirty something,

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Speaker 1: but for us, it would have been at that time

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Speaker 1: forty something, where we pick up these characters in their

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Speaker 1: forties and what they've gone through and what they've struggled

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Speaker 1: with and are still struggling with, and do they know

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Speaker 1: each other anymore? You know, did when Brenda went to London?

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Speaker 1: Did she ever come back? And did she you know,

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Speaker 1: what is her relationship like with her twin? And you

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Speaker 1: know what happened ultimately with her and Dylan, And you know,

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Speaker 1: for everybody to sort of have those moments and to

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Speaker 1: really and I think I do agree with you that

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Speaker 1: I think that that's kind of what the audience wanted,

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Speaker 1: and when they didn't get it, they were clearly, clearly,

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Speaker 1: clearly disappointed because our numbers were not great and we

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Speaker 1: got canceled very quickly, yea, very quickly, six episodes and done.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's ever happened to me before I

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Speaker 1: was like wait, what.

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Speaker 2: That's never happened to me before. That was one for

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Speaker 2: the record books, h