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Speaker 1: Welcome a point game. I'm CJ.

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Speaker 2: Toddanno and will of course be joined by my co

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Speaker 2: host Isaiah Thomas. Now this is a special episode with

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Speaker 2: some best of moments without further ado, let's go to

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Speaker 2: me and it one more thing because this is out

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Speaker 2: of curiosity. When I was just doing a little bit

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Speaker 2: of research. Uh you know, when we were starting this

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Speaker 2: this podcast with you, obviously I knew the one nickname

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Speaker 2: you had King of the fourth Quarter, which is you know,

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Speaker 2: you went off from the fourth quarter. It was like, no,

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Speaker 2: no lead was safe with you guys or playing against

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Speaker 2: you guys.

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Speaker 1: But this one I saw Pizza Guy.

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Speaker 2: Can you please give some context as to why people

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Speaker 2: called you Pizza Guy.

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Speaker 3: Look, the Pizza Guy came from I had a I

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Speaker 3: had a good I had a nice little One of

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Speaker 3: my first endorsement deals was with a pizza company called

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Speaker 3: Pizza Guys back in Sacramento, and it was my first

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Speaker 3: three in the league.

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Speaker 4: So we did commercials.

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Speaker 3: It was commercials every like every break in the game,

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Speaker 3: especially local games, they played my commercials. So it got

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Speaker 3: so big in terms of being the pizza Guy. Anytime

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Speaker 3: I'm in like even like Golden State, I'm if we

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Speaker 3: got home games in Sacramento. There's literally signs in the

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Speaker 3: in the crowd like saying the lines I said throughout

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Speaker 3: the commercial.

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Speaker 5: What kind of guy is Isaiah Thomas's quick, fiery and determined.

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Speaker 4: And I'm a pizza guy. That's why I'm loving the

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Speaker 4: fresher scratch pizza. Pizza guys. Are you a pizza guy?

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Speaker 4: And get the pizza guys.

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Speaker 3: And the funny thing about it is I would go

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Speaker 3: I would be in the warm up line. You know,

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Speaker 3: you're in the warm up line, and guys like you

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Speaker 3: go to half court, you chop it up with somebody

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Speaker 3: on the other team because that's your friend or some

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Speaker 3: or something around them. That way, every player would be like,

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Speaker 3: I'm a pizza guy. Get the pizza guys.

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Speaker 4: Because that was one of my little That was one

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Speaker 4: of my little lines.

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Speaker 3: And anytime you watch a sacrim Mental game, I promise

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Speaker 3: you throughout the game it probably came on thirty times

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Speaker 3: at least through all the commercials, So anybody who watched

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Speaker 3: Sacramento games, it was really a nickname that I was

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Speaker 3: given through an endorsement I had. So even when I

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Speaker 3: go back to Sack now, it's like somebody's gonna yell

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Speaker 3: out the pizza guy for sure.

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Speaker 1: I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I promise you right now, I'm not gonna call you

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Speaker 2: pizza guy at all this.

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Speaker 4: It's funny and if you do, it's all good. I

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Speaker 4: get it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would say, Sacramento, if anyone in that

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Speaker 2: organization is watching this, we need to bring back those commercials.

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Speaker 3: They need they need to, they need to. Anytime I

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Speaker 3: go to Sack, I call it pizza guys. I get

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Speaker 3: a little free pizza all the day. I'm a lifetime

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Speaker 3: pizza guy, bro, so it's all good.

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Speaker 2: There was a viral clip where Jalen in the middle

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Speaker 2: of the game. I think he's against Jaylen Brown. I

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Speaker 2: think he was in like triple threat, swinging around his

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what to call it. His hair

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Speaker 2: rubbed off on there and that viral and then his

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Speaker 2: response was, Hey, I should get on Twitch and stream

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Speaker 2: me getting my hair fixed. So bucketter Brick, did Jalen

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Speaker 2: respond to that embarrassing moment correctly?

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Speaker 3: He responded correctly, for sure. Okay, but dang, Jalen, I

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Speaker 3: thought I'd taught you better. Come on, man, that's my

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Speaker 3: rook right there. We can't be seen with the Beijing

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Speaker 3: in the hair. That's what it's called. When they got

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Speaker 3: the little black stuff in the air. Come on, man,

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Speaker 3: you too young to be putting that in the hair.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Brown. I like how you saved yourself though, clown

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Speaker 3: to yourself, laughing about it because it is funny. But

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Speaker 3: come on, JB, I thought I'd taught you better than that.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with a bucket

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Speaker 3: for how he responded. But Brick, come on, we can't

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Speaker 1: And so you said he was your rook What was that?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 3: One thing I would say on the court, and when

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Speaker 3: it came to basketball, he asked questions. He wanted to

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Speaker 3: be great, so to see his progression and his success.

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Speaker 3: Now it's a no brainer because he thought he was.

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Speaker 3: that was amazing to have that mindset. But come on, Jalen,

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Speaker 3: I thought I thought I taught you better. On top

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Speaker 3: And when I say not anything, not bringing the soap

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Speaker 3: not having the lotion for everybody. These are little rookie

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Speaker 3: you got you gotta have towels for everybody after the game.

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Speaker 3: Little things that, Okay, if you do them, nobody's gonna

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Speaker 3: mess with you. If you don't, we're gonna be on

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Speaker 3: your helmet. And he thought he was just bigger than

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Speaker 3: the program. Nobody's bigger than the program being a rookie.

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Speaker 3: So every time it would pile up every road trip,

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Speaker 3: he's not doing this. So one time, towards the end

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Speaker 3: he didn't. He didn't do nothing, maybe the game before.

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, okay, I'm popcorning in his car. It's over.

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Speaker 4: I gave him.

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Speaker 3: I gave him chance after chance, popcorning it. So I

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Speaker 3: got the people who work in the locker room throughout

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Speaker 3: the game, I'm like, okay, I pay you to go

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Speaker 3: get popcorn from upstairs during the game, please popcorn Jalen's car.

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Speaker 3: So after the game, and it sucks because he had

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Speaker 4: We end up winning the game, but he already had

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Speaker 4: a bad game.

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Speaker 3: So he was the first one out, first one out

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Speaker 3: the locker room, storming out, go to the car, and

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Speaker 3: I'm always usually the last guy out, so I'm not

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Speaker 3: in no rush. I remember Danny Ainge coming into Danny

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Speaker 4: He's like, I t did you popcorn Jalen's car? I'm like, who.

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Speaker 3: Told you that? Like, I didn't do it. I didn't

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Speaker 3: do anything. I don't I don't know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: It became a joke. It was so funny that when

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Speaker 3: all the people who got the popcorn, like the guys

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Speaker 3: the locker room attendants, they're the ones cleaning it out,

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Speaker 3: so I go and help them too. I'm like, I

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Speaker 3: didn't want y'all to get in trouble. They got in

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Speaker 3: shout out to you know, the Celtics locker room attendants.

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Speaker 4: We got We're like this always.

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Speaker 3: Jalen was hot and it was funny because it was

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Speaker 3: his rookie season and he had family in town.

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Speaker 4: He had one car, so everybody was in that car.

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Speaker 3: They just they were just outside the car like this,

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Speaker 3: all the popcorners out, I love it for anybody watching this,

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Speaker 3: your rookie, please just do what you're ass Nobody's doing

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Speaker 3: nothing to embarrass you.

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Speaker 4: You just gotta fall in line. You're not bigger than

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Speaker 4: the program man.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you, have you ever been booting

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Speaker 2: an arena and had you overcome? Have you ever been

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Speaker 2: a villain, which is definitely not anything would ever think

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Speaker 2: of you, But have you ever been a villain?

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Speaker 3: I haven't been a villain, No, I haven't. I've always

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Speaker 3: liked the fans for the most part. Yeah, kind of

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Speaker 3: kind of always showed some love. Like There's been times

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Speaker 3: like when I was in Cleveland, I wasn't playing well.

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Speaker 4: They booed a little bit.

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Speaker 3: They bo when I played for the Cows, but I

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Speaker 3: there's no way. So and then I'm just I interact

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Speaker 4: So I haven't been booed.

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Speaker 3: I remember early on in my career I played for

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Speaker 3: the Kings and we played in Madison Square Garden. They

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Speaker 3: booed me because of my name. They didn't like the

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Speaker 3: older Isaiah Thomas. So every time I touched the ball,

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Speaker 3: especially my first time, I was like, they was boring me.

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Speaker 4: I was like, what did I do?

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Speaker 3: And then I go to the bench they say, oh,

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Speaker 3: get it because it's crazy. Like a quick story, I

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Speaker 3: was in prep school in Connecticut. My friend Jamal Crawford

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Speaker 3: Isaiah Thomas is the coach. So it was that year

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Speaker 4: They wanted them fired. The fans didn't like them.

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Speaker 3: And so fast forward when I was on the Kings

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Speaker 3: And they just they just booing me right, And then

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Speaker 4: Spike Lee and he's like, you know, we got to

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Speaker 3: Spike Lee even knew who I was and mentioned me,

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Speaker 4: I remember after the game my mom calling me. She

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Speaker 3: She was like, why are they boring you? I was like,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's semi you and my dad's fault, but

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Speaker 3: it's all. I'm gonna just take it because everybody don't

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna take that one to the chin.

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Speaker 3: I've never been dropped, I've never been dunk down. There's

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Speaker 3: a picture of me going up against Lebron. It looks

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Speaker 3: like I'm about to get dunked on. My kids clowned

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Speaker 3: about that too, but I found him and he missed

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Speaker 3: the layup, so the poster looks like.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna turn it on me, but he never did.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think I'm ever gonna be the guy

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Speaker 3: that gets duncked done just because and if you ever

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Speaker 3: dunk on me, it's like you're supposed to.

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Speaker 4: I'm five nine, so I'm not tripping. I'm not tripping

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Speaker 1: I remember speaking of Lebron because I was a big

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Speaker 1: Bulls fan. I was.

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Speaker 2: I was living in Chicago during those like Bulls Heat,

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Speaker 2: those Bulls Heat series titles, and I remember John Lucas

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Speaker 2: he had that one jumped over him. But you know,

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Speaker 2: even contest that is like you know you got.

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Speaker 4: Like that just show it was a It was a

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Speaker 3: It wasn't the smart play for me to do, but

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Speaker 3: Because even my kids, my kids would make fun of me, like, dang,

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Speaker 2: When you got traded to the Calves and people say

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Speaker 4: Like, oh, you keep bringing it up. It was like

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Speaker 4: And I tried to do that the best I could.

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Speaker 4: Got to move on as best as you can.

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Speaker 3: I gave away so many kobepes that I'm so mad

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Speaker 4: Rest in peace, Kobe. But I just thought they would

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Speaker 3: You know, like obviously you think Kobe gonna be here

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Speaker 4: Can I somebody back at the crib? Can I get

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Speaker 4: getting unlimited of these, So it's good.

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Speaker 3: So there's a few pair that I don't have anymore,

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Speaker 3: and I wish I had just because I was being

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna always be team Kobe. I'm always represent the

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Speaker 3: is super cool, but it ain't nothing about it ain't

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Speaker 3: nothing like having.

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Speaker 4: Your own player exclusive when it comes to Kobe.

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Speaker 2: All right, So how many sneakers you think you've got

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Speaker 2: in your collection right now?

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Speaker 1: Total?

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Speaker 4: I mean, and this is not basketball shoes.

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Speaker 1: Let's say basketball shoes.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I would say a few hundred, three hundred,

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Speaker 3: like that. There was one summer I gave you probably

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Speaker 3: was a reason for it, but dang, it was right

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Speaker 1: You got one of it's pe send us a picture

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Speaker 4: Don't sit on pictures, send it back.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you another little gift. Send me back my peas. Man,

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Speaker 3: I need them, So let me ask you this.

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Speaker 2: So like funniest teammate and I guess, funniest moment on

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Speaker 5: We just had a goofy ass group of like like

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, y'all playing Monopoly fight the fight.

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Speaker 5: So they did this man so bogus. So we know

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Speaker 5: they about the wave David Lee, but they all owe

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Speaker 5: David Lee like collectively like a quarter. So David Lee

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Speaker 5: like I could be gasing. It's a bit David Lee Like, Man,

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Speaker 5: I'm finna get baught up. I'm going to man this.

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Speaker 5: So you get up and go to the bathroom. I

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Speaker 5: ain't gonna say who at the table these niggas was like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: so the deadline Tuesday?

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Speaker 2: Are we paying.

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Speaker 4: Literally paying? Like like are we paying? Are y'all paying? So?

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Speaker 5: Like literally like now we ain't gonna pay so so

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Speaker 5: then by the time we see him next, like when

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Speaker 5: we play the MAVs, Davids in the shooting around like like, hey.

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Speaker 4: Bro, we're that bread like you got so far.

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Speaker 5: Damn you want to like broadcast and he's as smart

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Speaker 5: ass that Damn I can't get my little sixty thousand,

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Speaker 1: Like it's like a casual NBA fan. We don't like.

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Speaker 1: People don't know about David Lee at all.

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Speaker 5: It's the funniest. It was the funniest, coolest, like wavest.

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Speaker 5: I was telling somebody the other day. I was like,

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Speaker 5: like real money and people finding somebody man. David Lee

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Speaker 5: was just getting to it now. So he was living like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: different life and yeah, you lived in Tom Brady's old

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Speaker 5: house for like thirty Yeah, like you was so booming

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Speaker 5: that like we might be like what you're wearing a

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Speaker 5: night and I'd be like, man, Gucci and Jordan's and

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Speaker 5: like our fit might be like twenty three hundred. I'm

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Speaker 5: like what you're wearing, d League man jeans, a black

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Speaker 5: tea and a quartermain dollar watch. For sure, I ain't

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Speaker 5: gonna go in here, bro, like I'll buy a bottle.

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Speaker 5: He'll do like five figures. He's a cool I still

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Speaker 4: D was one of.

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Speaker 1: So Mike Conley the other night he hits a three

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Speaker 1: against the Spurs. Now you proceeded to do ten unique

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Speaker 2: How often are they rehearsed? Tell everyone the fans who

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Speaker 2: Because it seems like a big trend in the league

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Speaker 4: It's crazy. It's a whole thing.

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Speaker 3: It usually happens like during training camp, everybody's trying to

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Speaker 3: figure out their little handshakes. Like I didn't really start

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Speaker 3: you know, Lebron's been big on doing that since the

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Speaker 4: So he was really the leader of that in Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: He like everybody got to think of something dope to dude,

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Speaker 3: that relates to you know, you guys's friendship really, So

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Speaker 3: that was really a big thing. And then every other

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Speaker 3: team after that I've been on, it's like, you better

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Speaker 3: be locked in on these handshakes because when the camera's on,

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Speaker 3: there's no time to mess up.

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Speaker 4: So it's really a big thing.

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Speaker 3: Where guys is in the locker room, you'll look over

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Speaker 3: there in the corner, they're working on a handshake over there.

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Speaker 3: They're like, man, what do you think we're doing on

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Speaker 3: this handshake?

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Speaker 4: So it's serious and if.

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Speaker 3: You really watch, nobody's really messing up, like everybody is

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Speaker 3: just everybody's just tapped in. And the crazy thing about

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Speaker 3: it is Lebron is doing handshakes with teammates from ten

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Speaker 3: years ago that he hasn't played with in years, and

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Speaker 3: he remembers everything. So like, shout out to Bron, Shout

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Speaker 3: out to everybody who's locked in on the handshakes, because

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Speaker 3: you be locked in on the game and right when

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Speaker 3: you go to the bench, you hitting everybody with all

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Speaker 3: these down the line, I'm surprised coaches don't have handshakes.

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Speaker 3: The next thing we got to do is have coaching staff.

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Speaker 3: Gotta have dope dope handshakes. Yeah, with the coaching staff,

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Speaker 3: that would be funny.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: I talked to Richard Jefferson too about I mean that

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Speaker 2: just like they had no business being the Warriors, but

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Speaker 2: they were just brothers. It was all on brotherhood and

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Speaker 2: like the handshake thing. And you've talked about that too

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Speaker 2: with their Celtics teams, Like the closer you guys are

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Speaker 2: and that the handshake thing. It seems it could be

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Speaker 4: It means a lot.

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Speaker 3: It means like that's that says a lot about your friendship.

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Speaker 3: If you got a quick one, it's like, oh, they're

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Speaker 3: not that close.

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Speaker 1: I would be watching the games like that, that's quick one.

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Speaker 4: You're like, they're just a handshakes all good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they got the pat pats all that. Oh they

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Speaker 3: go to dinner together for the show.

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Speaker 2: So if you were to see Lebron at a game,

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Speaker 2: would you be able to be able to do your handshake?

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Speaker 3: Now, I just go off with whatever he's doing. He's

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Speaker 3: definitely remembering it. He's definitely I remember we used to

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Speaker 3: end it with this, so I know I know, I

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Speaker 3: know we're ending it with.

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Speaker 4: That for sure. I don't remember all the other stuff

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Speaker 4: in the middle. I love that.

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Speaker 1: I love that. Okay.

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Speaker 6: Og inside, Oh, I want to play from Blake Oh

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Speaker 6: and Bine throws it off, Haddanobi Handanobi shoves Babe I

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Speaker 6: Bain wanted to save it and get possession, but he

438
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Speaker 6: threw it like it was throwing a fastball.

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Speaker 2: Desmond rebound the ball, just chucked it at og. What

440
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Speaker 2: was going on there?

441
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Speaker 3: I was I'm still trying to figure out, like, do

442
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Speaker 3: you not like that guy? Like what the hell was

443
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 3: going on? Like that was because he could have when

444
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 3: he got it, he could have just went the other

445
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Speaker 3: way like he was. It's not like he saved it

446
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,439
Speaker 3: out of bounds and he was like they were already

447
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 3: out of bounds. If you ever, if you watch it again,

448
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 3: he really could have grabbed it.

449
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Speaker 4: And just went the other way.

450
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Speaker 3: He really like aimed it fastball straight to the ribs.

451
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Speaker 4: I'm like, damn.

452
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Speaker 2: The funniest part was that he is he pointed to

453
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Speaker 2: their position because it technically was out on.

454
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Speaker 1: Ojos out of him and he was what do I do?

455
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Speaker 1: It's like, what do you mean? Wuld you do?

456
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Speaker 3: I wish I could ask him because that was if

457
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Speaker 3: I was on the bench, I would have been like,

458
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Speaker 3: oh my goodness, I would have I would have thought

459
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 3: they had some type of beef. And he's trying to

460
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Speaker 3: do the right like the wrong thing, but legally like

461
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Speaker 3: he was trying to get him back for some I

462
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Speaker 3: was like.

463
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Speaker 1: Dang, and maybe Og is playing innocent.

464
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Speaker 2: But like they asked him during an interview and he

465
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Speaker 2: was like, actually, think Desmond's a great guy.

466
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Speaker 1: Maybe you can say that just to like.

467
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Speaker 4: I'm saying, you could tell. He reacted like what are

468
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Speaker 4: you doing?

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Speaker 1: Bro?

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Speaker 3: And then they said something and he was like, it's

471
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Speaker 3: all good, bro, It's all So that was a crazy

472
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 3: exchange that was I never see nothing like that, especially

473
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Speaker 3: when you didn't have to go out of bounds.

474
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Speaker 2: Another thing that happened since we last recorded, and I

475
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,679
Speaker 2: didn't see this you posted it. I saw this because

476
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 2: I follow all these basketball aggregator accounts, But your son

477
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 2: made his freshman debut from if I'm.

478
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Speaker 1: Not mistaken right?

479
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And okay, so here's from a fan standpoint, here's what I.

481
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Speaker 2: The experience that I love when I see this for

482
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 2: the first time, is they go, oh, the son of

483
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 2: whatever you know star and then you see their game

484
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 2: and it's it's like watching you all over. You see

485
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 2: the stuff that he picked up, Like it was like

486
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 2: watching watching you again. But like walk us through that.

487
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 2: You know, I'm a father too, so I can't even

488
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Speaker 2: imagine that feeling. So tell us all about that. You've

489
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 2: been watching him and helping them grow as a player,

490
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 2: and now you get to see him put it all

491
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Speaker 2: to work.

492
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Speaker 3: So my oldest son, James, is fifteen. He's a freshman

493
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Speaker 3: at Ai Wright High School in Tacoma. He had his

494
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Speaker 3: first high school game and it's crazy because like that

495
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 3: was one of my like proud dad moments, Like just

496
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Speaker 3: seeing him in the starting lineup, get his name called.

497
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Speaker 3: That's the first time he's probably being in a starting

498
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Speaker 3: lineup situation where they got an announcer and things like that,

499
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 3: and to see him have a good game and most

500
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Speaker 3: importantly his team win, Like he had twenty six points,

501
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 3: eight assists, three rebounds, two steals, like, and he missed

502
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 3: three or four free throws, so he didn't have a

503
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 3: perfect game, but it was amazing to just sit back

504
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 3: and see him be able to experience that because I

505
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 3: remember my first high school game and it's crazy because

506
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 3: my first high school game I had twenty six points

507
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Speaker 3: as well, So I had a bet with him, like,

508
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Speaker 3: I know you're not going to be able to pass

509
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Speaker 3: that and the only reason why he did it because

510
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Speaker 3: he missed three free throws so he would have had

511
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Speaker 3: twenty nine. But it was amazing, man, I all my

512
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 3: family could do. My dad, my wife, his siblings obviously,

513
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 3: is just smiled because it was a big moment for

514
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 3: all of us, Like it was cool. So I was

515
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Speaker 3: shout out to big game James, James the Great having

516
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Speaker 3: a successful high school debut.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I was a proud dad.

518
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Speaker 3: But the competitor ding me is like it's on to

519
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 3: the next we gotta be bigger and better.

520
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 4: We gotta this is expected. So it was.

521
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Speaker 3: It was a super cool moment being a dad, but

522
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Speaker 3: also for our family just seeing him be able to

523
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Speaker 3: be in high school and be on his own man.

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Speaker 2: For me at least, and a lot of fans out there.

525
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 2: Obviously Christmas traditions, but the biggest Christmas tradition to me

526
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: outside of spending time with family and opening presents and

527
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: giving presents is just turn on the TV and just

528
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 2: getting a whole slate of games. You know, very special,

529
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Speaker 2: meaningful matchups like team you know, the best teams play

530
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Speaker 2: against each other. It just there's it's not Christmas Day

531
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Speaker 2: unless these games are happening. So wanted to go through

532
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Speaker 2: some of the big ones, get your thoughts and predictions. Uh,

533
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 2: the first one we talked about it you actually you've

534
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Speaker 2: played in a Christmas Day game, So I wanted to

535
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Speaker 2: get your thoughts on on what that day and that

536
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Speaker 2: what that game, how special was compared to other games?

537
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Speaker 2: And you actually played an MSG and remind everyone what

538
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Speaker 2: was that?

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Speaker 1: What was that game? Like I think was it twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 4: Twenty sixteen? Sixteen? Okay sixteen?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now we played the MSG. It was like a

542
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 3: dream of mine that came true. Like as a kid,

543
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 3: like you just said, like, I'm a basketball I love

544
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 3: the game of basketball, so I'm watching it every day.

545
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Speaker 4: So as a.

546
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Speaker 3: Kid, I'm locked in, Like, yeah, I want to open

547
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 3: my presence, but I want to watch hoop too. I

548
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 3: want to watch Michael Jordan on Christmas Day. I want

549
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 3: to watch Kobe Bryant. Like those type of guys. So

550
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 3: as a kid growing up, that was a dream of mine.

551
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 3: So my first chance we got I was on the Celtics.

552
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: We played the New York Knicks in New York on Christmas.

553
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 3: Like we woke up in New York on Christmas. That's

554
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 3: obviously like a dream of everybody's as well. So it

555
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 3: was just the whole moment, the whole day. I took

556
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 3: it in. I have my boys at the game, like

557
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 3: we was walking through the tunnels. You know, it's really

558
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 3: Christmas Day. I think we were the first the first

559
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 3: game too. We happened to win that game I played.

560
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 3: I played solid, like it was a pretty good game

561
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 3: and we won on Christmas. So it was like and

562
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 3: then it was Boston versus New York. You know how

563
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 3: that little rivalry is, like, so you couldn't beat it,

564
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 3: Like even though.

565
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Speaker 4: It was Christmas, it was dope for the family.

566
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 3: Like that was an amazing moment for myself, Like to

567
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 3: be in Madison Square Garden playing on Christmas, being you know,

568
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 3: the franchise guy playing on Christmas. It's a little different

569
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 3: when you're that guy as well, So it.

570
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Speaker 4: Was super dope.

571
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Speaker 3: And then the next year I actually was hurt when

572
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 3: I was on the Cows, but we were we were

573
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Speaker 3: in Golden State. We played the Warriors on Christmas Day.

574
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Speaker 3: And then years later I was on the Lakers. We

575
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Speaker 3: played I think we might have played the Brooklyn Nets.

576
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 3: We played somebody on Christmas Day. I didn't get in

577
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 3: the game. I got a DMP. But it's still it's

578
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 3: still dope to be able to play or be able

579
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Speaker 3: to suit up on Christmas and you know the world's watching.

580
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Speaker 3: So I've had a few little experiences that's been really

581
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Speaker 3: cool for sure.

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Speaker 2: Incredible film and documentary that you and your team created

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Speaker 2: called Go Forward. I don't want to explain I think

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Speaker 2: it's best put in your words, but I got an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to watch it last night. It's incredibly powerful. It's

610
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Speaker 2: about a story that, honestly man like. One of the

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Speaker 2: reasons why I want to do the show with you

612
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Speaker 2: is like, not only were you know you're incredible basketball player,

613
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Speaker 2: but an incredible human being who has been open. Your

614
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Speaker 2: story has been shared and it's been an inspiration and motivation.

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Speaker 2: And I had no idea that this documentary was being made,

616
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Speaker 2: and I just think it speaks volumes about who you

617
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Speaker 2: are and your initiatives, if an outside of basketball. So

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Speaker 2: the documentary is called Go Forward, but I wanted to

619
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Speaker 2: tee it up to you. It's premiering here at the

620
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Speaker 2: Sun Valley Film Festival, so I want to ask you, like,

621
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Speaker 2: what is this film about and sort of why you

622
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Speaker 2: wanted to make it, And that's some other questions about

623
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Speaker 2: the making of this film.

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Speaker 3: So we slow Gride Media we produced the documentary called

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Speaker 3: Go Forward. And the reason why I wanted to do

626
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Speaker 3: this was because when the situation happened with my little

627
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Speaker 3: little sister getting a car accident back in twenty seventeen

628
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Speaker 3: and passing away right before the playoffs, I seen how

629
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Speaker 3: inspiring me trying to fight through a personal tragedy was

630
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Speaker 3: for everybody in the entire world, whether somebody I seen

631
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Speaker 3: on the street, somebody I seen back home in Tacoma,

632
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Speaker 3: somebody I seen in an arena, who really would stop

633
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Speaker 3: me and be like the time I was going through

634
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 3: the you know a tough time in my life, I

635
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: was really looking to you for motivation and inspiration. And

636
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Speaker 3: when I heard all those messages being thrown at me,

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Speaker 3: all those people write me letters, people would just say

638
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Speaker 3: how inspiring I was, And I was only doing what

639
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Speaker 3: I felt was right. I was only doing what I

640
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Speaker 3: felt was normal. But to be able to inspire the

641
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Speaker 3: world on something that everybody goes through, whether somebody passes

642
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Speaker 3: away in your family, whether you got to go through grief,

643
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Speaker 3: to be able to do that on the national stage

644
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 3: was very difficult. But to be able to show it

645
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Speaker 3: to the world. And if I'm able to help one

646
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Speaker 3: person that's going through the same similar situations that I've

647
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Speaker 3: been able that I've had to go through when it

648
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Speaker 3: comes to grief and losing family members, losing siblings.

649
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Speaker 4: That's something I want to do.

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Speaker 3: So we've been filming since twenty eleven. I got everything

651
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Speaker 3: since twenty eleven, so soon we're going to come out

652
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Speaker 3: with a movie of my life. And we've been able

653
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Speaker 3: to my guy TJ. Riggins, been able to film and

654
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Speaker 3: capture some of the the biggest moments, some of the

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Speaker 3: highs and the lows, not only in basketball, but in

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Speaker 3: my everyday life, and this was a very important piece.

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Speaker 3: So when it came up to do a short documentary

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00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 3: with a couple other producers, it was difficult, but it

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Speaker 3: was a no brainer because it was to help others.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't about myself.

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Speaker 3: And when people sit and watch this, it's gonna change.

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Speaker 4: A lot on how you think about things.

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Speaker 3: Like even when I sit and watch it, a couple

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Speaker 3: of times I have and put myself outside of who

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Speaker 3: I am and it being me that's going through this.

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Speaker 3: It made me realize, like it's bigger than yourself. So like,

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Speaker 3: if you're going through personal stuff, it's bigger to not

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Speaker 3: to to not just keep it in like you can

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Speaker 3: you can help somebody else, and that's what is the

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Speaker 3: most inspiring thing.

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Speaker 4: So we got. We got.

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Speaker 3: This film is inducted in the Sun Valley Film Festival,

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Speaker 3: which is a major film festival.

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Speaker 4: It's only the beginning.

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Speaker 3: It would be showing December sixth in Idaho at the

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Speaker 3: Sun Valley Film Festival. I will be there and my

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00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 3: family will be there. It's definitely a dope opportunity to

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Speaker 3: be able to be in the mix in that space

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00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 3: because that's something that I'm very interested in being in

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00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: and it's just going to be a powerful short doot.

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00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,719
Speaker 3: It's going to change a lot of eyes when it

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00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: comes to being able to push through adversity and tragedy

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Speaker 3: on a national stage where everybody's watching my every move.

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Speaker 3: And shout out to my pops man for being able

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Speaker 3: to sit down and speak his truth on how he's

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Speaker 3: going through it, how he deals with grief.

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Speaker 4: And without him, this would never even have been made.

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00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: And this was a tough, a tough goal for him

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Speaker 3: to even sit down and speak about it. So shout

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Speaker 3: out to my dad, Shout out to everybody involved, Shout

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Speaker 3: out to TJ. Reagan for like it's it's it's it's

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Speaker 3: tough moments, man, but it's going to at the end

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Speaker 3: of the day, is going to help somebody else and

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Speaker 3: that's what's most important. So the film is called Go Forward.

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Speaker 3: It will be shown this weekend at the at the

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Speaker 3: Film Festival, and the world would be able to see

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Speaker 3: it soon for sure because it's going to be that impactful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man.

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Speaker 2: And and you know a lot of my work in

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Speaker 2: Basketball two is about telling the stories of the person

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00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: you know behind because everyone knows about that legendary fifty

702
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: three point game on your sister's birthday. Highlight reels are made,

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Speaker 2: edits are made and whatever. But the fact that you

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Speaker 2: had cameras rolling you were you know, you were open

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Speaker 2: and not to just be like hey look at me,

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Speaker 2: like you said, but like this stuff helps, you know,

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Speaker 2: Like I've gone through some grief, you know, anyone ever has.

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Speaker 2: It's tough, but people, we as humans have to go through.

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Speaker 2: And to see someone who went through it like yourself,

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Speaker 2: and then you know, was able to channel that through basketball,

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Speaker 2: you know, passion that you had and get through it,

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00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: and then your family and how how you guys have

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Speaker 2: worked through it and continue to work through and make

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Speaker 2: you know, these powerful films and like that. It's really

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Speaker 2: incredible to see. So I appreciate it. And so some

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Speaker 2: other questions I had about it were, you know, getting

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Speaker 2: other members of the Celtics. You know, you have Brad Stevens,

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Speaker 2: Alhr for all these people. How important was it to

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Speaker 2: get them to be involved and help give, you know,

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Speaker 2: some more texture to that story.

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Speaker 3: It was easy actually, because that whole organization went through

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Speaker 3: a real life tragedy with me, so they understand the

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Speaker 3: magnitude of what was going through them. Locker room halls,

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Speaker 3: what was how the energy was for that whole playoff

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Speaker 3: run when it was it was a tough situation for

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Speaker 3: everybody involved.

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Speaker 4: So shout out to everybody who was a part of

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Speaker 4: the film.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Al Horror for Brad Stevens, a few

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Speaker 3: other Boston Celtics staff members that took their time out

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Speaker 3: of their day to be able to, you know, speak

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Speaker 3: about such a personal moment for myself and my family.

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Speaker 3: So it was easy though, Like when I asked those

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Speaker 3: guys to be a part of it, it was a

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Speaker 3: no brainer for them. So the love and respect they

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Speaker 3: have not only for myself but for my family is amazing.

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Speaker 4: And you know that feeling is mutual.

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Speaker 1: That's great.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: Well, I highly recommend it, and Hee was a fan

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Speaker 2: of it. Of basketball who's ever been through having to

742
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Speaker 2: deal with grief? I highly recommend you check out this

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Speaker 2: docu short Go Forward, produced by Silgrind Media. It's like

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Speaker 2: it said, It's premiering this Saturday in Idaho, December sixth,

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Speaker 2: four point thirty at the Opera House. The link is

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Speaker 2: Sun Valleyfilmfestival dot org. You can check out all the

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Speaker 2: information how to get tickets there. Check it out. I

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Speaker 2: think Yeah. Like I said, I think it's the start

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Speaker 2: of you telling your whole story, because it's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: you've inspire people, shorter guards and all that stuff. But

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00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: also I think there's another layer that when people saw

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Speaker 2: you deal with this, was like, oh yeah, it is

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Speaker 2: our guy, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: And when they see this, it's just gonna be real

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00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: life stuff. So it's gonna be something anybody who's been

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Speaker 3: through something like this is going to relate to. I

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Speaker 3: just was happening to do it on a national stage

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Speaker 3: while in the NBA playoffs, And I mean, even though

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Speaker 3: it was tough to do, like, it's helped me in

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Speaker 3: ways that I can't even imagine in terms of being

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Speaker 3: able to help others in such difficult times.

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Speaker 4: For sure.

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Speaker 2: All Right, this has been another episode of Point Game

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Speaker 2: with myself and Isaiah Thomas. Everyone please stay safe and subscribe, follow, like,

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