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Speaker 2: rising up, Dude, You're rising Vision Flurry Rage, take it over.

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Speaker 3: Here's Paul CALVICI I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you I'm ready.

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Speaker 2: And Ron Woolfley it doesn't get any better than that.

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Speaker 3: Fre Football can be a strange game. Let me give

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Speaker 3: So you just have that juxta position of the refined

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and speaking of music, guess what Elijah Jones, Oh

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Speaker 3: All right, So here's my question for you right off

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Speaker 1: Yeah, every dude in the locker room is the same guy.

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Speaker 4: We were in every game, you know, and then you

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Paully, and once again too. We better be balanced, Yes,

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Speaker 1: And where Kyler Murray is. Is he in the pistol,

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Speaker 3: You fortified the offensive line. You have James Connor coming

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Speaker 1: Okay? Can I just say prove it? Rook Are you okay?

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Speaker 1: If I say that right there? Prove it rock Okay.

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Speaker 3: Look, we're gonna get into the receivers in depth a

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Speaker 3: But there are options. I mean, there's a balanced offense

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray and James Connor in this offense going forward. Hey,

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Speaker 3: Elijah Jones our candidate for most interesting rookie in a

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Speaker 3: This is the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford

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Speaker 6: Ford, the Arizona Cardinals select Elijah Jones, defensive back Boston College.

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Speaker 7: He can run, you know what I'm saying. He can

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Speaker 3: That is Nick Rowlis, Cardinals defensive coordinator on Cardinal's third

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Speaker 3: round rookie. A lot stands out about Elijah Jones, and

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Speaker 3: Elijah sixty four games played the most in Boston college history.

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Speaker 3: Do you feel like, okay, you know what it's time

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Speaker 8: Eventually it got to that point, even after my fifth year,

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Speaker 8: I was contemplating, you know, coming out, but talking to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you were first team All acc last year. Right,

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Speaker 8: Life in the AZ is the first time I get

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Speaker 3: Did you follow the NFL a lot during your I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So like for you, how do you go about it?

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Speaker 3: I remember it was Paris Johnson Junior last year he said,

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Speaker 8: it comes to a lot of these pro boilers. You know.

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Speaker 8: I feel like sometimes you got to earn your stripes

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Speaker 3: And look, we get it, there's no pads, it's not

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Speaker 8: I think it's been going well. I think the biggest

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Speaker 3: Rookie corner Elijah Jones is our guests in the Big

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Speaker 8: At the end of the day, you know, it's a

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Speaker 3: Would you say, and if I'm wrong, you tell me.

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Speaker 3: it's hard to really tell who can play. But I

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Speaker 8: I mean you get a little bit of imposter syndrome.

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Speaker 8: I think he's very fluid, He's just a well complete receiver.

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Speaker 8: I think that there's very few weaknesses in this game,

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Speaker 7: Here's Nick Rowlis talk about that interview. It was impressive.

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Speaker 3: It was an unbelievable.

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Speaker 8: I just think kind of my mindset and my intellect.

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Speaker 8: And we always say, well, at least my dad says,

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Speaker 3: So that's what he told the media. Music is in

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Speaker 3: your veins.

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Speaker 8: Music it's in the veins, you know.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting. My dad was a big jazz guy. He

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Speaker 3: played horn, and so I grew up listening to Miles

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Speaker 3: Davis chat Baker. He loved Ramsey Lewis and you know,

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Speaker 3: so do you use that for some mental health, like

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Speaker 3: when you need to get away and get your mind

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Speaker 3: off football. Is that where you go?

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Speaker 8: Oh, that's completely where I go. So a lot of

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Speaker 8: times in the locker room, a lot of raw rob music.

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Speaker 8: You know, it's high energy, high like macho energy. So

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Speaker 8: once I'm done with the day and it's not for

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Speaker 8: me to relax, I have my oldies, even though you

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Speaker 8: know the Sabbath of the Sundays, I have a thing called

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Speaker 8: Soul Sunday, or I have a playlist where it's this

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Speaker 8: all kind of my old calm records, where it's a

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Speaker 8: nice stroll, nice drive, like whatever you want to do,

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Speaker 8: a kind of just has to move for the day.

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Speaker 3: So have you informed Christian Jones? I remember you told

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Speaker 3: the story right the rookies were in the van and

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Speaker 3: Christian Jones, he'd grab control of everything, and you know,

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Speaker 3: did you have flex on him yet? Let him know

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Speaker 3: just exactly how equipped you are to run the music selections.

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Speaker 8: I dropped a little nugget. We've been in the car

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Speaker 8: again together and I played my songs and he asked

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Speaker 8: me for a few recommendations. So we thrown it out

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Speaker 8: there a little bit, a little back and forth is nice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a big man with a big personality isn't

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Speaker 3: able a huge personality, but I'd love to see it.

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Speaker 3: Who else stands out out there? I mean when you're

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Speaker 3: talking to your dad on the phone, right, Okayiler Murray

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Speaker 3: and Buddabaker the star Factor, But who else has caught

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Speaker 3: your eye in terms of you know what, man, this

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Speaker 3: guy's impressive out on the field.

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Speaker 8: Trade McBride. He makes some great snags, some great contested catches,

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Speaker 8: and a lot of times as a tight end he's

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Speaker 8: matched up with some safeties or some linebackers. So him

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Speaker 8: going up against you know, like Kaysi or White or

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Speaker 8: again Booten and JT and just kind of seeing the

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Speaker 8: catches that he's making, the way that he gets the

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Speaker 8: separation and stuff like that, Like it's great to see.

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Speaker 8: And we shared a coach and I started off my

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Speaker 8: coege career with Steve Dazios, my head coach at BC

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Speaker 8: who ended up being his head coach at Colorado State,

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Speaker 8: So we kind of had a few conversations with that.

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Speaker 1: But he's a hell of a.

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Speaker 3: Player, yeah, and he's all ball. He's he loves it.

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Speaker 3: There's there's no doubt. I asked pass rushers when they

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Speaker 3: come in here, rookies. All right, which quarterback do you

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Speaker 3: want to sack the most?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: A couple of years ago? Right away was Tom Brady

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Speaker 3: in his final year. How about a receiver you've looked

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Speaker 3: at the Cardinal schedule. Is a receiver too like you

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Speaker 3: would look forward to really matching up against?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I really want to see Justin Jefferson live, one

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Speaker 8: hundred million dollar man, you know, just signed a big contract.

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Speaker 8: But even just seeing him, Jordan Addison, I think that's

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Speaker 8: a really good receiver corps. I think, you know, Miami

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Speaker 8: Dolphins have a great receiving corps. Seahawks have a great

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Speaker 8: like forty nine ers. We have a lot of a

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Speaker 8: lot of really good receiver courts on the schedule. So

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Speaker 8: I'm excited to see a bunch.

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Speaker 3: Look I'm just the sideline reporter, but Tyreek Hill's speed

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Speaker 3: is mesmerizing I Cardinals, I mean that is I mean,

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Speaker 3: do you envision your welcome to the NFL moment?

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Speaker 8: Yeah? If not, it kind of already happened. Just you know,

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Speaker 8: in one of the early days of practice, one of

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Speaker 8: our receivers, seventeen, just flew by me and I was like,

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Speaker 8: I've never, you know, recognized who this was before, and

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Speaker 8: then we get to the mirror and they're like, yeah,

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Speaker 8: you know, he's the top three one hundred guy at

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Speaker 8: Penn State. Oh so, you know, nice little welcome to

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Speaker 8: the NFL. Just Likeckily, the ball wasn't thrown, but I'm

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Speaker 8: four yards behind, just chasing behind, trying to catch up,

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Speaker 8: and it's not not happening.

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Speaker 3: Elijah Jones is our guests. What else has been a

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Speaker 3: challenge so far in terms of little learning curve? What

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Speaker 3: between now in camp? What are the coaches tasked you with?

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Speaker 3: What do you think that you have to show them,

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Speaker 3: especially in the month of August.

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Speaker 8: I think there's being you know, I feel like if

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Speaker 8: you're out there and you kind of know what you're doing,

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Speaker 8: but you don't know know what JG likes, it says

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Speaker 8: a lot what you're doing. It stands out, you know.

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Speaker 8: And for the first couple of days of practice, me

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Speaker 8: going out there and hearing the call in the huddle,

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Speaker 8: which is also new because usually I'm getting signals from

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Speaker 8: the sideline and then breaking out. I'm thinking from my

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Speaker 8: walk from the huddle to my actual position, like what

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Speaker 8: is my job? And now that I'm getting the calls,

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Speaker 8: that's like Okay, I already know what to do. It's easy.

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Speaker 8: I'm getting the learning curve when it comes to the playbook,

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Speaker 8: so I'm able to play faster. So I think that's

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Speaker 8: probably the biggest thing.

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Speaker 3: What are your impressions you're a coach. I mean we

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Speaker 3: like to joke that JG rhymes with energy. I mean

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Speaker 3: he brings it all the time.

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Speaker 8: All the time, and he challenges you, which is nice,

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Speaker 8: and they kind of see how you respond. It's never personal.

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Speaker 8: It's not even like he's attacking you. It's kind of

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Speaker 8: what he wants to see from you. And then even

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Speaker 8: with you know, coach Nick, same kind of thing, but

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Speaker 8: a little bit more of a joking, you know, laid

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Speaker 8: back aspect. But for all of us, I think everyone

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Speaker 8: that we have that Ivan counter with has been great teachers,

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Speaker 8: and I think that's a big thing for us.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: The other dynamic his position of expertise is corner. He

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Speaker 3: was a position coach, and you know, just from Afar.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's over there and he's given you guys

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Speaker 3: a lot of useful tips and information, isn't he. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: for sure.

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Speaker 8: I mean this is the second time I was able

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Speaker 8: to experience this with coach Afley at BC and being

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Speaker 8: able to have that and then kind of have that

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Speaker 8: overlap here. It's been nice because I get a bunch

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Speaker 8: of different perspectives and also like, yeah, he made sometimes

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Speaker 8: with the linebackers, but you can see him peeking over

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Speaker 8: at the corner room and then try to give a

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Speaker 8: couple of tents later. But when he speaks, you listen.

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Speaker 8: So especially for someone in my position who he's coached

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Speaker 8: really well and had tons of Pro bowlers with us,

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Speaker 8: Like why not, you know, listen to that guy who's

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Speaker 8: been in your position.

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Speaker 3: So to wrap it up here with Elijah Jones Cardinals

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Speaker 3: rookie corner, how about Kyler Murray out on the field,

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Speaker 3: what's your takeaways on his release, his accuracy, the deep ball,

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Speaker 3: just his ability to create and extend plays.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean like everything that I feel like you

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Speaker 8: want to practice for as a team is based off

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Speaker 8: of the abilities that he has. You know, I've seen

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Speaker 8: some throws in practice where we had like a cover

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Speaker 8: two corners supposed to sink you know, midpoint, the high

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Speaker 8: and the low. He fakes like he's throwing the low,

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Speaker 8: looks it off and then throws the corner route on

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Speaker 8: the dime and it's like no one else is reacting

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Speaker 8: to it, but I'm geeking on the sideline like did

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Speaker 8: you see that throw?

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Speaker 3: Did you see that thrill?

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Speaker 8: And people are like, well, we see that every day.

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Speaker 8: So being able to see things like that, and then

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Speaker 8: you know, scramble drill, like you want to plaster it

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Speaker 8: onto your man. Who's a better guy to have a

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Speaker 8: scramble drill against? Thin Kyler Murray? Who could put the

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Speaker 8: ball on the money once he gets out the pocket anywhere?

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Speaker 8: So it's just kind of great to see, all right.

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Speaker 3: Last question, New York City. You don't really hear of

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Speaker 3: a lot of NFL players coming from the city of

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Speaker 3: New York. What's kind of point of pride is that

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Speaker 3: for you?

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Speaker 8: I think for me is being able to be saying

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Speaker 8: that we're everywhere. You know, We're not just putting this

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Speaker 8: in this little box. Even when it comes to like

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Speaker 8: recruitment out of high school stuff like that, we're like,

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Speaker 8: we're pretty overlooked. But I feel like we have like

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Speaker 8: a lot of guys in the city, a lot of balls,

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Speaker 8: a lot of athletes. I'm not I was the first

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Speaker 8: person from Harlam at least drafted into the class this year,

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Speaker 8: but someone else came right behind me in the seventh round.

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Speaker 8: So we had a couple of people that were able

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Speaker 8: to be drafted out the city this year, which is

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Speaker 8: great and I think it's being able to pull put

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Speaker 8: more of a light onto the city and were not

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Speaker 8: just put as a box.

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Speaker 3: In a basketball school high school in the Bronx born

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Speaker 3: in Harlem, people were like, kelvc ask him what he's

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Speaker 3: listening to right now? Real quick? What Elijah Jones, what

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Speaker 3: are you listening to? Do you have a recommendation? What

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Speaker 3: are you listening to right these days?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 8: I'm listening to Cash Cobaine Fisher or Attitude with Don

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Speaker 8: Tolliver and Charlie Wilson.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to hit Google. I'm good beyond my

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Speaker 3: enjoyed it. Thanks Elijah, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: If you go.

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Speaker 3: We continue with a big red Rage presented by Santan

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Speaker 3: Ford in Gilbert.

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Speaker 8: Touchdown Marvin Harrison Junior marvelous Barb.

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Speaker 10: Harrison Burry backing up close into the end zone, pulled

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Speaker 10: in by Wilson for a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Wanna throw my Tyler Murray facing pressure twenty five twenty

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Speaker 3: ankles outside the numbers of the ten five times into

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Speaker 3: the end zone touchdown, Bret Dorch thirty eight yard catch

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Speaker 3: and Ron Chicago, you just got dorched. So NFL dot

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Speaker 3: Com puts out these lists. June is known as the

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Speaker 3: list season in media, Ron Wolfley one underappreciated player from

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Speaker 3: every team.

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Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you're ready ready for this right now? For the

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Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals end below. Please it was Greg Dorch. Greg Dorch,

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Speaker 3: not bad and not bad. They came up with a

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Speaker 3: stat I was not aware of. They said. From week

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Speaker 3: eleven to eighteen last season, Greg Dorch was the second

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Speaker 3: most targeted player for the Arizona Cardinals and had the

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Speaker 3: second most receiving first downs with fourteens. So as we

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Speaker 3: welcome you back into the Big Red Rage presented by

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Speaker 3: Santan Ford and Gilbert We are Santane Ford and special

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Speaker 3: thanks there to Elijah Jones for joining us the rookie corner.

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Speaker 3: Remember last week Garret Williams and we asked him who

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Speaker 3: stood out out on that field? Named some names he

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Speaker 3: started with Greg Dorch makes sense the two of them,

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Speaker 3: as Jonathan Ganna talked about of a square off a

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Speaker 3: lot because Dorch being the slot receiver and then the

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Speaker 3: slot nickel corner being Garrett Williams. Those two have gone

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Speaker 3: against each other and so okay, back and forth they go.

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Speaker 3: But Wolf, it's not just Dorch. We heard Michael Wilson.

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Speaker 3: And then of course, what can Marvin Harrison Junior do

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Speaker 3: for you? It's sort of rhetorical question. And before you

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Speaker 3: answer that, here's Kyler Murray. I'm what the fourth pick

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Speaker 3: overall brings to the Cardinals offense.

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Speaker 4: That takes us to another level. When you've got a

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Speaker 4: guy out there that is capable of, you know, winning

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Speaker 4: one on ones, obviously he's got to go do it.

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Speaker 4: But as far as you know, manipulent coverage and stuff

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Speaker 4: like that, like, you got a guy out there that

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Speaker 4: can do that, and even if he's not open, he's open,

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Speaker 4: you know. So I'm excited to you know, be able

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Speaker 4: to build that with him when.

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Speaker 3: He does what he does.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I fully expect our offense to be you know,

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Speaker 4: probably let.

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Speaker 3: That hanging on.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, where do you start on that way? Polly?

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Speaker 1: What he just said? What was the one thing that

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Speaker 1: stands out?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So, and we talked about this earlier in the week.

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Speaker 3: If indeed a def starts respecting Marvin Harrison Junior from

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Speaker 3: the get go. Let's just say puts a couple of

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Speaker 3: plays on film in the preseason and then they shut

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Speaker 3: him down. Yeah, all of a sudden, the gravitational pull

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Speaker 3: of coverage goes towards Marvin Harrison Junior. Now, all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden, all that double coverage at Trey McBride saw

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Speaker 3: the last month of last season. Yeah, Michael Wilson in

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Speaker 3: year two, all the rave reviews of Michael Wilson will

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Speaker 3: get to him in a moment. There's gonna be a

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Speaker 3: lot of guys in space getting single.

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Speaker 1: Coverage, no doubt. Paully And once again, it's so encouraging

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Speaker 1: because when you've got a situation where Marvin Harrison Junior

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Speaker 1: is out there, if you're talking about manipulating coverage, this

675
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Speaker 1: is really really important with a quarterback because a quarterback

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Speaker 1: has a pre snap reed and then a post snap reed.

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Speaker 1: The pre snap read. Okay, how is the defense configurated

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Speaker 1: snap the ball? Where do they go from that configuration

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Speaker 1: right there that helps them read coverage. Well, if you've

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Speaker 1: got a wide receiver, that's somebody some defensive coordinator, by

681
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Speaker 1: way of examp, is bent on stopping. He's gonna go

682
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Speaker 1: ahead and he's going to play that safety so much

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Speaker 1: of the time over the top of Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 1: That's what manipulating coverage is. Now. Suddenly you can almos

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Speaker 1: you can almost anticipate if you're a quarterback where that

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Speaker 1: coverage is going to go post snap read and once

687
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Speaker 1: you get the verification of it. He's manipulating coverage. Now

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Speaker 1: sometimes that can help a quarterback read where he's going

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Speaker 1: to go with the ball.

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Speaker 3: During OTAs you head on the head Coach The Wolf

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Speaker 3: of Luke Show had Jonathan gannon on I wrote down

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Speaker 3: his quote about Kyler Murray when you guys asked him

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Speaker 3: and he said, quote, it's kind of eye popping the

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Speaker 3: kind of command that he has on the practice field.

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Speaker 3: Jonathan ganna is speaking about. He didn't have this a

696
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Speaker 3: year ago because Kylo is rehabbing, so he's seeing this

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Speaker 3: part of Kyler's game for the first time this time

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Speaker 3: of year. He said, the defense knows they better be

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Speaker 3: ready to roll or they're gonna get diced. And he goes,

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Speaker 3: I love the versatility, the way they play multiple ways

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Speaker 3: on offense, the way Drew pa Scene is configuring all that,

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Speaker 3: and then again there's Michael Wilson, and there have been

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Speaker 3: a couple of guys on the record saying, with all

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Speaker 3: the attention Marvin Harrison Junior is getting, do not sleep

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Speaker 3: on Michael Wilson. And here's Kyler Murray on that Mice

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Speaker 3: will be playing for a long time.

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Speaker 1: I believe that.

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Speaker 4: I fully believe that he's one of those guys. Man,

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Speaker 4: he's uh, I call him that three am. He's there,

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Speaker 4: he loves you know, and it's a guy like I

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Speaker 4: fully expect Mike to go off this year for sure.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting talking to Michael earlier in the offseason just

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Speaker 3: how critical he was of his own film, how he

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Speaker 3: really analyzed a lot of his routes. Yeah, he said

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Speaker 3: too often, there were too many tells that he was

716
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Speaker 3: given DBS. He's really tried to eliminate a lot of that.

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Speaker 3: He's finally fully healthy. He's recovered, you know, from all

718
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Speaker 3: the rehabb he had to do last year to get

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Speaker 3: ready for the All Star Games, just to get drafted.

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Speaker 3: So and we if there's one thing we know about

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Speaker 3: Michael Wilson, true or false wolf, he can make the

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Speaker 3: contested catch.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he showed that, PAULI that's what I was just

724
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Speaker 1: going to say right there, because if you take the

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Speaker 1: cut before Kyler Murray talking about Marvin Harrison Junior winning

726
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Speaker 1: those one on one battles right there, And the other

727
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Speaker 1: thing he said, other than manipulating coverage, of course, was

728
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Speaker 1: he's open when he's not open. What does he mean

729
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Speaker 1: by he's open when he's not open? Well, this is

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Speaker 1: something that Larry Fitzgerald was legendary for dang if he

731
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Speaker 1: was covered throwing the ball, because Larry's hands were so

732
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Speaker 1: good and he was going to catch the ball away

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Speaker 1: from his body, you'd throw him the ball even when

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Speaker 1: he's covered. Because Larry on a contested catch. Man, it

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Speaker 1: was like eighty twenty. It wasn't a fifty to fifty ball,

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Speaker 1: It was eighty twenty. I think Michael Wilson has a

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Speaker 1: little bit of that in him too. You know.

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Speaker 3: It's funny. DRC Dominique Rodgers Cromarty, the former first round

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Speaker 3: pick of the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: Oh, of course, DRC.

741
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Speaker 3: I had not seen him in many years. We were

742
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Speaker 3: chopping it up at the draft party, and he said,

743
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Speaker 3: the most vexing thing about Larry Fitzgerald is Larry could

744
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Speaker 3: never outrun him. DRC was a four to two something guy.

745
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Speaker 3: But Larry would always make the catch because he would

746
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Speaker 3: get his body between DRC and the ball, and he

747
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Speaker 3: said it just drove in nuts.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what happens when you have a can the

749
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Speaker 1: size of an all defensive guard.

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Speaker 3: All right, So now we got Greg Dortch, who was

751
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Speaker 3: a fine diminutive American, and guess what, just keeps having

752
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Speaker 3: to prove himself year after year, fighting for the final

753
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Speaker 3: fifty three. No longer he's a starter. He is your

754
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Speaker 3: slot receiver from all accounts. And here's Kyler Murray with

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Speaker 3: a scotta report on Greg Dortch.

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Speaker 4: I feel like George is unguardable as far as you know,

757
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Speaker 4: one on one, knowing where to be in the zones.

758
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Speaker 4: He's got the nuance and the savvy to him that

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Speaker 4: you wanted a receiver, and not everybody has it. It's

760
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Speaker 4: not very common. Well, he's five seven, like he's you know,

761
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Speaker 4: if he was six three, he'd be a top five pick.

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Speaker 4: And then if that's what I think, you know, that's

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Speaker 4: the type of football player that he is. And again,

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Speaker 4: he loves the game. I can I go to war

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Speaker 4: with Gray every day.

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Speaker 3: That's some high praise.

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Speaker 1: Paully, Can I tell you right now, Greg Dortch has

768
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Speaker 1: a wedge buster's mentality. That's what I think. I think

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Speaker 1: Greg Dortch could have busted wedges.

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Speaker 3: Now you see a little bit of yourself and Greg Dortch,

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Speaker 3: don't you.

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Speaker 1: He He doesn't have a ton of natural talent, okay,

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Speaker 1: And it takes one to know one, okay. And because

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Speaker 1: you know Greg Dortch is he's quick, he's explosive, there's

775
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. But he doesn't have prototypical size

776
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Speaker 1: or strength. No for a wide receiver. He does not.

777
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Speaker 1: All he does is remind me of Buddha Baker once again,

778
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Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. You look at Greg Dortch,

779
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: he plays as hard as Buddha Baker plays on the

780
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Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. And because of that, he's

781
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Speaker 1: endearing to a lot of his teammates. But let me

782
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Speaker 1: just say right now that I love to hear that

783
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: about Greg Dortch because that's the kind of competitor that

784
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Speaker 1: you want out on the field. And I don't care

785
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Speaker 1: if he is going to be the number three wide

786
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Speaker 1: receiver and eleven personnel, he's going to impact guys who

787
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Speaker 1: are offensive lineman because if he's out there playing in

788
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Speaker 1: a fearless, aggressive, physical way, what's your excuse.

789
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Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about other weapons. Because the leading receiver,

790
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Speaker 3: most consistent receiving target for Kyler Murray year ago was

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Speaker 3: Trey McBride, and a number of newcomers I've talked to

792
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Speaker 3: free agents and draft picks have cited number eighty five

793
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Speaker 3: and just how athletic he has been out there, just

794
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Speaker 3: the ridiculous catches he's making down the seam elsewhere keeping

795
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Speaker 3: defenses honest, If indeed he's not seeing consistent double coverage

796
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Speaker 3: like he did to the end of last year, what's

797
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Speaker 3: the potential for the kind of campaign for McBride.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's so good right now, it really is. I'm

799
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Speaker 1: so jacked up for Trey. Eleven personnel. Can you say

800
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Speaker 1: eleven personnel and run down situation first and ten second

801
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: and one to six. You got one back, one tight

802
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: end that's Trey McBride, and three wide receivers. You have

803
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Speaker 1: to be able to do this to line up in

804
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Speaker 1: eleven personnel and run down situation and run the ball

805
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Speaker 1: and still be a physical rushing team and a physical

806
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Speaker 1: run the ball threat. Trey McBride is that guy. That's

807
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Speaker 1: the reason why the Arizona coaches won them at two

808
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: to fifty. I was talking to Trey McBride about this

809
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 1: very I was talking to him, and Trey told me, Yeah,

810
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Speaker 1: they want me at two fifty. Why do they want

811
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Speaker 1: you at two? They want me at two fifty because

812
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: I'm two forty five right now. They want him at

813
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Speaker 1: two to fifty, Paul, because they want him to be

814
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Speaker 1: able to be that true stud tight end, that true

815
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Speaker 1: why tight end, and be the move tight end as well.

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Speaker 1: George Kittle, George Kittle, what are you gonna do about it?

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Speaker 3: By the way, there's also Zay Jones who looks the

818
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 3: part out there at six to two and he said

819
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Speaker 3: some real legit success. Smart dude, dude, twenty nine years

820
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Speaker 3: of age. He is plug and play. So there are

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Speaker 3: com slash ticket sets Azycardinals dot Com slash tickets. The

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Speaker 3: other first round are Darius Robinson next on The Big

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Speaker 3: Red Rage. Zuri breaks pressure and they throw Larry down.

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Speaker 3: Larry Darius Robins, said Pressler on third and six pockets collapsing.

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Speaker 3: So as hey, it's Darius Robinson.

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Speaker 10: They gets home right off the bat. The guy's got

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Speaker 10: a motor like you notice how active he is. He's

832
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Speaker 10: basically played every alignment you could play on the defensive line,

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Speaker 10: and this year he stood up more, which is something

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Speaker 10: that only adds to his value. We see him more

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Speaker 10: probably with his hand in the dirt as a defensive lineman,

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Speaker 10: but a guy in certain packages you can put him

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Speaker 10: in a two point stance and he can still get

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Speaker 10: the job done. Extremely impressive physical profile on the guy.

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Speaker 10: He's big, he's long, he's athletics, so he should be

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Speaker 10: a very versatile.

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Speaker 5: Tool for jug.

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Speaker 3: It's a great breakdown from Dave Sears, Cardinal's assistant general manager,

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Speaker 3: on a recent edition of The Big Red Rage presented

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Speaker 3: by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford, Paul

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Speaker 3: kelv c Ron Wolffley in the twenty seventh pick overall,

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Speaker 3: Darius Robinson. Impressive, dude, Wolf, I mean, oh yeah, every

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Speaker 3: bit of six ' five two eighty five looks like

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Speaker 3: he has a potential to put on more body mass.

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Speaker 3: All the reports are he is quite explosive with the

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Speaker 3: first step. We get it.

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Speaker 1: No pads.

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Speaker 3: It's not full contact, full speed football, but players can tell.

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Speaker 3: And the early returns on Darius Robinson is once he

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Speaker 3: gets this defense down, he's going to be a problem.

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Speaker 1: Paulli. It's the most impressive thing right now from Darius

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Speaker 1: Robinson that I see is his brain. He talks about

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Speaker 1: the game of football in such detail. I can't even

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Speaker 1: tell you. I was saying to him just the other

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Speaker 1: day when I was interviewing him Bully, I was saying

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Speaker 1: to him, where do you think you need to get better?

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Speaker 1: He started going into pass rush technique. Paul, I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about where do you you know? Where do you need

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Speaker 1: to get better? Well, you know, just you if he

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Speaker 1: would have said rushing the passer, that's where I need

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Speaker 1: to get better rushing, he went into when I'm at

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Speaker 1: the top of my edge move, I need to shift

867
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Speaker 1: my shoulders more and get skinny. I was like, what

868
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Speaker 1: are you what? This is? This is who they are.

869
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Speaker 1: When I say one player's like the next player, They're

870
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: all ball. That's what they're about. And that's no accident. Pault,

871
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Speaker 1: that is Monti, acid Fort and JG. Looking for those guys.

872
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Speaker 3: Doesn't surprise me. That was your takeaway for two reasons. One,

873
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 3: you played the game ten years in the NFL. Number two,

874
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Speaker 3: that's akin to what Justin Jones told the media when

875
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Speaker 3: he was asked about his first impressions of Darius Robinson.

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Speaker 9: He's definitely a smart player, and I feel like he's

877
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Speaker 9: gonna play as long as he wants to play. I

878
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 9: feel like he has a great understanding the ball. I

879
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 9: feel like he knows scheme, he knows concepts. I feel

880
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Speaker 9: like he's a very very smart player. And like I said,

881
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 9: I haven't even touched on his athletic ability. I'm just

882
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 9: talking about his knowledge of the game. I feel like

883
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Speaker 9: he's a very explosive athlete. I feel like he's deceivingly strong,

884
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Speaker 9: and I also feel like him being so explosive and

885
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Speaker 9: knowing so much about the game, he's gonna be a

886
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Speaker 9: problem for a lot of teams.

887
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Speaker 3: Just let that hang in the air for a minute.

888
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: I had no idea that that was gonna be the cut.

889
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: You were gonna play well.

890
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 3: When you're out there watching OTAs, you just can't get

891
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 3: much farther into practice without commenting to someone. Usually it's

892
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 3: me hitting Craig Greeley. Are you looking at the defensive

893
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 3: line and how different it looks versus last year? It

894
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 3: is night and day. Yes, and now look the D

895
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Speaker 3: and D line stood for decimated. You know you had

896
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Speaker 3: practice squad players in that room at the end of

897
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Speaker 3: last year, but you really bolstered and approved that room.

898
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Speaker 3: What's interesting is Darius Robinson. He said, really, the thing

899
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Speaker 3: that's thrown on the most so far is what's he

900
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Speaker 3: going to do with five weeks off. He's never had

901
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Speaker 3: five weeks off in his life. From the end of

902
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 3: mandatory minichamp to training camp. He said, he's going to

903
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 3: go back to Missouri and train with his college team

904
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Speaker 3: just to make sure he stays in shape and quote

905
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Speaker 3: comes to camp with an edge. That's what he was

906
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 3: talking about. And then goodness, he went on to say

907
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 3: this on learning from veterans like Justin Jones there and

908
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 3: Blall Nichols.

909
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Speaker 5: Zay Jones, those are two good vets for me to

910
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 5: learn from. So I just sit in the meeting and

911
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 5: take notes and just listen to all the conversations, like

912
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Speaker 5: between our coaches and the veteran players and just listen.

913
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Speaker 5: My favorite cal is how do you get wisdom when

914
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 5: you talk and never listen? So that's all I'm doing

915
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Speaker 5: right now. I was just listening as much as I can.

916
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Speaker 3: That's a smart rookie, isn't out? Wolf said speak when

917
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 3: spoken to.

918
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Speaker 1: That's Roy Paully right there. It was like Craig told me,

919
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: shut your mouth and respect everybody.

920
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, so I mean you tell me Wolf. Okay,

921
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Speaker 3: you got Blall Nichols, you got Justin Jones, L J.

922
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Speaker 1: Collier.

923
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. Yeah, he looks good out there. He

924
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 3: looked really good in the preseason in one game of

925
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 3: last year before the biceps injury. Darius Robinson. We know

926
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Speaker 3: Roy Lopez was a playmaker at times when needed. Nick

927
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Speaker 3: Ross loves his rotations. If he keeps these guys fresh,

928
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Speaker 3: I'm just curious. I mean, we know where the Cardinals

929
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Speaker 3: ended up in terms of run defense last year. It

930
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 3: was not good. I mean, how much improvement is realistic

931
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Speaker 3: here this season?

932
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Speaker 1: Paulli. I think there's a lot of improvement here. And

933
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Speaker 1: if you were talking about becoming an average defensive rush

934
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Speaker 1: team at this point, I think that is that is attainable.

935
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Speaker 1: That's not the ceiling to me, they could be that

936
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Speaker 1: much better, especially when you're talking about Mac Wilson Sr.

937
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Speaker 1: Talking about adding him in kay'sir healthy Kaisier White inside

938
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Speaker 1: as linebackers, and now yeah, the baalal Nicols of course,

939
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Speaker 1: and Justin Jones and Darius Robinson. Who I see is

940
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Speaker 1: a four eye or a three technique, Polly. That three

941
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Speaker 1: technique is shading the outside shoulder of an offensive guard.

942
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: That's what a three technique is. The four eye is

943
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: so particular, it's so peculiar. You take your outside eye

944
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: if you're a defensive end, imagine your outside eye, and

945
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: then you put it on the inside eye of a tackle.

946
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: Where's an offensive tackle or where he let So you

947
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Speaker 1: have your outside eye to my inside eye as a tackle.

948
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Speaker 1: If I'm the left tackle, that would be your right eye.

949
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Speaker 1: If I'm the right tackle, that would be your left eye.

950
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Speaker 1: And I know this is really probably confusing a lot

951
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: of people out there right now, but that's how specific

952
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Speaker 1: it gets the technique. I'm going to line up eyeball

953
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Speaker 1: to eyeball with you. Darius Robinson is going to take off.

954
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Speaker 1: I think he's going to have a great year because

955
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Speaker 1: of the guys he's playing with.

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Speaker 3: By the way, he said, he's already had an NFL moment,

957
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 3: a welcome to the NFL moment. It was Will Hernandez

958
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 3: and big Will's grip strength is what Daris Robinson saying, Hey,

959
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 3: get in wine because Will hearn and has got his

960
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: big mits. And then he said Darius said he actually

961
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Speaker 3: asked him, dude, where did you get that sort of

962
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Speaker 3: grip strength? What do you do in the weight room

963
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: for that? And he says he has certain drills, but

964
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Speaker 3: he said he grew up with his dad doing construction, right,

965
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Speaker 3: so he has naturally strong hands, yep. And he's a

966
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Speaker 3: naturally strong dude.

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Speaker 1: The other thing he said, by the way, Darius, don't

968
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Speaker 1: cheap shot him. No, I'm just telling you that right now.

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Speaker 3: No, if he'll start a fight with JJ Watt, he's

970
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 3: starting a fight with JJ Watts. I have it on video.

971
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Speaker 3: You want me to tweet it out. And here's the

972
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Speaker 3: other thing he said, Darius Robinson being a rookie, is

973
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Speaker 3: I know him in the league when I run with

974
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Speaker 3: the ones and I look across the line of scrimmage

975
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Speaker 3: and there's Kyler Murray. Yeah, it's kind of a surreal moment.

976
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Speaker 3: It's amazing how many of these younger guys say they

977
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 3: grew up watching Kyler Murray. Not only Kyler Murray and

978
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Speaker 3: college win in Heisman like Kyler Murray's high school highlights.

979
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Speaker 3: He was a star as a high school player. Yeah, Paul,

980
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Speaker 3: So here's that of surprise. Here's my other question in

981
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Speaker 3: the D line. How much do you think bolstering the

982
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Speaker 3: interior D line can help the edge guys meaning Xavi

983
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Speaker 3: and car Denni Garden.

984
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Speaker 1: I think a lot. I think a lot. That's the

985
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Speaker 1: easy answer right there. But can I tell you right

986
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: now the one the one thing I'm looking for going

987
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: forward is Darius Robinson of course, and bj Ojealari. Darius

988
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Speaker 1: Robinson is going to be playing that three technique a lot.

989
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: Bj Ojelari's going to line up over to that offensive tackle.

990
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Speaker 1: What kind of stunts could they possibly run together, two

991
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: young guys and could they build chemistry? We're gonna find out.

992
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Speaker 3: And once again they had the orchestra, the symphony music

993
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Speaker 3: playing while some of the old linemen were joking, well,

994
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Speaker 3: how many normal people do you think Will Hernandez and

995
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Speaker 3: Big Mo Marky s Hayes could take out in a

996
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Speaker 3: bar fight, so.

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Speaker 1: You thought it was Mozart when it was Beethoven.

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