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Speaker 1: and Out Podcast? How are we doing? Not a beautiful night?

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Speaker 1: I mean it's freezing cold and Kyler Torres acl it

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Speaker 1: looks like the Patriots win a game. We will dive

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Speaker 1: into Monday and Night football. Some thoughts on the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: Some thoughts on the Chiefs. Who you know? I think

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Speaker 1: some say squeaked by, but a win's a win. In

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Speaker 1: the NFL in December something with the twenty twenty draft

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Speaker 1: and Zach Wilson and Trey Lance. Now this brock Purty thing. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Some thoughts on not forcing quarterbacks and I think too

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Speaker 1: later they immediately regret it, and some thoughts on Mike Leach, who,

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Speaker 1: as of recording this is about ten o'clock at night

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Speaker 1: on Monday, doesn't look like he's doing well at all.

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Speaker 1: And I watched his career closely when he was at

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Speaker 1: he took over Washington State, and he's just one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite characters. I mean, I think he's universally just

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Speaker 1: one of the most unique characters we have in all

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Speaker 1: of football. Authentically, not many like him. They're just there,

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Speaker 1: just isn't and obviously an innovator in a game that

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Speaker 1: you know is always seeking innovation. So he was definitely

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Speaker 1: ahead of his time, and let's face it, not only

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Speaker 1: influenced it basically college and pro. His concepts are everywhere,

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Speaker 1: friends and uh yeah, let's dive into some football. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes on these Monday night games, you lose track of time,

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Speaker 1: in right around six twenty. But I'm never I'm always

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Speaker 1: very fast that it was Kyler Murray. I immediately check

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Speaker 1: the team, even for a guy having a rough season.

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Speaker 1: They drafted this guy number one overall and they gave him,

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Speaker 1: seventy million dollars. That's just that is a crippling injury

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Speaker 1: He created this. We'll have to give him, as the

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Speaker 1: Tonight was all Peyton and Eli. And for the most

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Speaker 1: These guys are twenty two, twenty three year old guys.

427
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Speaker 1: They have a lot of career left. Well. Trey Lance

428
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: couldn't beat out Jimmy Garoppolo because they fixed the job.

429
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: Like if they would have had an open competition, Trey

430
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: Lance would not have been the starter this year. They

431
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: fixed the job for Zach Wilson and clearly by mid

432
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: season they realized, we can't do this anymore. And I

433
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 1: guess ultimately what I was thinking about when I looked

434
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Speaker 1: at this draft and was thinking about this morning is

435
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: when you forced quarterbacks in spots and the Jets are

436
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: kind of a poor man's version of the Niners, right,

437
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: and you have a really good team, it really bites

438
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: you in the ass because think of what those teams

439
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 1: could have done with that pick. I mean, the Jets

440
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: could have traded back, they could have taken these guys.

441
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: The forty nine ers could have sat at twelve and

442
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 1: taken Micah Parsons or hell, maybe they could have traded up,

443
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: got Jamar Chase, taken Piney Sewell, I don't know, drafted

444
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: one of these offensive linemen. They could have done a

445
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: lot of different things. And I think it shows you

446
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: when you like brock Purty and Mike White came in

447
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: and what brock Purdy did against Tampa was insane. If

448
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: you have a chance, go to Brian Baldinger Baldy's Twitter

449
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 1: account and just watch his breakdown of what brock Purty.

450
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: There's two minutes. It's easy to do. Like that wasn't

451
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 1: fake what we saw, And there have been a lot

452
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: of rumblings in San Francisco, like Kyle was pretty intrigued

453
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: with brock Purdy over the summer, Like brock Purty pretty

454
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: easily won the third strings job. And if it wasn't

455
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Speaker 1: for Jimmy coming back, and let's face it, the reason

456
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 1: Jimmy came back because they had some reservations on the quarterback.

457
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 1: They could say whatever they want, but Trey Lance was

458
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: all over the place and there listen, I understand, I

459
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Speaker 1: like betting on big fast, strong arm guys. But that

460
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he's going to turn into Justin Herbert and

461
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson was like this raw guy who actually had

462
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Speaker 1: this great film against nobody with this big arm. And

463
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 1: both these teams are absolutely loaded, and they've invested all

464
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Speaker 1: this in a quarterback. And I would argue that both

465
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: those quarterbacks are probably not the long term answer. So

466
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Speaker 1: the example I'm gonna use here is like I talked

467
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: yesterday about it with the Lions, you don't need to

468
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Speaker 1: force the quarterback. The Houston Texans, for example, have no choice.

469
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Speaker 1: They're gonna have the number one pick. I would just

470
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Speaker 1: take Bryce Young. You gotta try, But so many teams

471
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Speaker 1: that have a decent base, like do you need to

472
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Speaker 1: do it? Like Seattle for example, they are going to

473
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Speaker 1: get the Denver Broncos pick, just like the La Rams

474
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Speaker 1: are going or excuse me, the Detroit Lions are gonna

475
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Speaker 1: get the La Rams pick. Take a sweet player, like

476
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Speaker 1: just let things breathe. Unless you believe that guy is

477
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: gonna be to me, he's gotta be at minimum, he

478
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: has this ceiling to be a top twelve guy, and

479
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: you believe it, But if you're wrong, it bites in

480
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Speaker 1: the ass, and it bites in the ass fast, because

481
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: you can use that on immediate and an impact player,

482
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Speaker 1: whether at a pass rusher, whether an offensive tackle, whether

483
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Speaker 1: it a linebacker, whatever, and you can dramatically help your team.

484
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Speaker 1: And I think we've seen in the history of the

485
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Speaker 1: league so many quarterbacks like Aaron Rodgers wasn't the time

486
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Speaker 1: ten pick. It was twenty fourth. Brock Purty was mister irrelevant.

487
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Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying Brock Purty's gonna be coome Aaron Rodgers,

488
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott fourth round, Russell Wilson third round, Kirk Cousins

489
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Speaker 1: fourth round. We think that all these top picks hit

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Speaker 1: at quarterback. I mean, a couple of years ago that draft,

491
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Speaker 1: greatest quarterback draft ever. No, not really. I'm recording this

492
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Speaker 1: before the Monday night game, but we already know what.

493
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: Mac Jones is very very average talent. Zach Wilson and

494
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: Trey Lance are never gonna be as good as justin fields.

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Speaker 1: He's just dramatically more talented than both the guys. Now,

496
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is a good example to this day. The

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Speaker 1: Jaguars do not regret that pick. They would take him

498
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Speaker 1: over and even he has been somewhat of a roller

499
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Speaker 1: coaster ride. There was that article a couple of weeks

500
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Speaker 1: ago about Andrew Luck in his retirement how he regretted

501
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 1: the way he handled it. But to me, as a player,

502
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck is such an outlier. He came to a

503
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Speaker 1: team that had just been the number one pick in

504
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Speaker 1: the draft and immediately they went to the playoffs, and

505
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Speaker 1: let's face it, looking back at that organizational structure kind

506
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: of a joke. They did have some good players, but

507
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 1: what he did there is not something that's very normal.

508
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: So I think teams have to be very very careful

509
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: about the hype machine. And the hype machine on quarterbacks

510
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: trump's every other position by tenfold, and it's easy to

511
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: talk yourself into it, but when you miss, you regret

512
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: it immediately. Sometimes, like Jalen Hurts, who might win the

513
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: MVP this year, was a second round pick. I just

514
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Speaker 1: think you can find value and you don't have to

515
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Speaker 1: force the pick super high if your team is already

516
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Speaker 1: pretty good. Now. I understand the Jets were not good

517
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Speaker 1: at the time, but god do they regret that pick

518
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: a year and a half later. And last but not least,

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Speaker 1: as of recording this right now I'm you know, I'm

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00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: not the most religious guy, but I've been thinking a

521
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: lot about Mike Leach and obviously he's what seems like,

522
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: just based on Internet reports, fighting for his life in

523
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Speaker 1: a hospital in the South and let's pray to God

524
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Speaker 1: that he can make it through this. But you know,

525
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: some of these these reports coming out, I would say,

526
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Speaker 1: are a little ominous and not the most positive reports.

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Speaker 1: At anytime, you know, you're over sixty years old, you're

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Speaker 1: in a hospital. Hell, I've seen it with you know,

529
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Speaker 1: my dad's been sick before he passed away in another

530
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: situation where it was it was not good. You know,

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Speaker 1: you just you never know once you get to have

532
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: a certain age, anytime you go to the hospital, it's

533
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: it's it's scary. But I do want to just talk

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Speaker 1: about it positively. What an absolute legend this guy is.

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00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the coolest part about the sport

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Speaker 1: of football. And it used to be like this in

537
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Speaker 1: basketball and baseball. But in baseball now the gms are

538
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Speaker 1: the stars. Coaches don't matter. And when I was a

539
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: kid in basketball, I mean there were some huge personalities

540
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: from pat Riley's to Phil Jackson's even that is waning

541
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: a little bit, right, because it's a front office led sport.

542
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: Football is still a sport that through the history of time. Obviously,

543
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: the players and the quarterbacks are big stars, but the

544
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: coaches are every bit as big. And the personalities of

545
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: the coaches in college in pro football really make this

546
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 1: thing that we all love so much cool and fun

547
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: and interesting if we just consider football a big television show,

548
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: because ultimately that's what it is. Power five college football

549
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: in the NFL, the coaches are absolute major major You

550
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: know that they play a major role in that television show.

551
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Speaker 1: And I would say Mike Leach is one of the

552
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: most unique characters we've ever seen college or pro one.

553
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: He did not play college football. He went to BYU

554
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: and he played rugby. He got his start, which to me,

555
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: this always hits home at cal Pauly where I went

556
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: to college, and he just kind of worked his way up.

557
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: But to me, what's so cool, just kind of looking

558
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: at his records over the years is he's never got

559
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: the shot. Who knows, maybe he never wanted and he

560
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: clearly made a lot of people uncomfortable with the big boys.

561
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: He's never got some premium job. Ohio State, USC Texas LSU.

562
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: Right these Michigan, Hell, Oregon and Washington these schools were

563
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: never gonna hire him. He went to Texas Tech, Washington

564
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: State and now Mississippi State, and you know what he

565
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: did at all of them. He won the influence he

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Speaker 1: had on the sport of the spread offense. Historically, I

567
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: remember being in college and his offenses at Texas Tech

568
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: were by far the most potent, and everyone said his

569
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks do not work in the NFL. So it basically

570
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: was like an indictment of his offense was like RinkyDink,

571
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: and at the time it was somewhat true. But it

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Speaker 1: worked because he couldn't just run the same offense that

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Speaker 1: Texas and Oklahoma were running or he would have got

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Speaker 1: his ass kick. So he spread that bad boy out

575
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Speaker 1: from learning from how Mummy at Kentucky, and he lit

576
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Speaker 1: up other teams like a Christmas tree. And under him

577
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: he developed guys like Cliff Kingsbury and Lincoln Riley who

578
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: played quarterback for him and then became coaches. How Wes Welker,

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Speaker 1: one of his better players, is now a coach, and

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00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: I would imagine one day might be a head coach

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. So he influenced the coaching profession, but

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00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: from an offensive profession. Think how many people that you

583
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: hear talk over the last definitely the last decade, and

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Speaker 1: I would say even more recently. It is such a

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00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: positive now to say, yeah, I use Mike Leach's air

586
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: raid concepts in our passing game. It's like a point

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00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,479
Speaker 1: of pride. I bet if you talked to Nick Saban,

588
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: if you talked to Urban Meyer. Obviously Lincoln Riley uses it.

589
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: These guys speak about this guy in reverence for his

590
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: offensive mind, because when you hear him talk, he doesn't

591
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: sound and honestly, he doesn't even look like many other

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00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: football coaches. But like I said, the thing that was

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Speaker 1: most powerful about Mike Lee is how consistently good as

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00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: football teams were at non consistent football programs. At Texas Tech,

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00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: he never had a losing record. He won eleven and

596
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: two there one time, eleven and two at Texas Tech

597
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: and have them obviously competing to be the number one

598
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: team in the country when Crabtree beat the University of

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00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: Texas in the game. Then he went to Washington State,

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Speaker 1: he inherited a team that was one and eleven, a

601
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: complete joke, an awful football program. Within three years, he

602
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: had a stretch. He went nine and four, eight and five,

603
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: nine and four, eleven and two, and he lost to

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Speaker 1: Washington the Apple Cup, or he would have gone to

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Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl. He had Washington State a game away

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Speaker 1: from the Rose Bowl, and then from there he goes

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Speaker 1: to Mississippi State, which is clearly probably the worst program

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Speaker 1: in that division. And last year he went eight and

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Speaker 1: four and he beat Lane Kiffin in the Egg Bowl. Like,

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Speaker 1: you hire Mike Leach, you are guaranteed to win. Now,

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Speaker 1: I understand he's a different cat, and he's not I

612
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: don't think he's the easiest to deal with. When I

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00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: the year I scouted on the road for the West Coast,

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Speaker 1: it was his first year at Washington State, and I

615
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: remember going into the school like you know, as a scout.

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Speaker 1: It's a little different now with technology, but you'd like

617
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: go in really early in the morning, like seven o'clock,

618
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: and usually, depending on what the football program's doing, sometimes

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Speaker 1: you watch tape for a couple of hours, take some notes,

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Speaker 1: then you meet with the coaches, or maybe you meet

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Speaker 1: with the coaches, then you go to practice and you

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00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: watch tape. Every school is a little different, but I

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Speaker 1: remember going to the school probably you know, between seven

624
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Speaker 1: and eight, and sometimes the first guys you run into

625
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: are like the gas. And I remember talking to the

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Speaker 1: GA who was actually the guy who La Garrett Blunt

627
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: hit at Boise State. I forget. I think his last

628
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: name's Hout and he was Mike Leach is GA, and

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Speaker 1: I remember asking, like, where's Leech. He's like, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: Leech doesn't get into the office till noon. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: till noon, what's he doing? Well? He stays we have

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Speaker 1: like offensive met at like ten o'clock and midnight. He's

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Speaker 1: a night owl. So I'm like, that's that's the craziest

634
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: thing of ever most coaches, Sean McDermott, Andy Reid, Belichick.

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Speaker 1: These guys are getting there like fourth Sean McVay. These

636
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: guys are getting there like four thirty five in the morning.

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00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: The Leach gets there at noon. It's like, that's the

638
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: coolest shit I've ever heard. Guy's a different cat. And

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Speaker 1: then within a couple of years he had them winning

640
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Speaker 1: eight nine games and competing with Washington and Oregon and

641
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: USC to be the best team out West at a

642
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: program that has no business doing that. And I'll never

643
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: forget when Washington hired Washington State hired him. They asked

644
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: their ad before they hired him. He had just fired

645
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: his coach and they go, well, who are you going?

646
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: What search firm are you going to use? And the

647
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: ad said the search you're looking at him, I'm the

648
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: search firm. And he knew right away. Went after Mike

649
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: Leach after the Craig James thing happened. He locked him

650
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: in the in the shed when to get out of concussion.

651
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: Craig James's Dad's a complete loser. But that that is

652
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: just It would hurt your heart if you're a football

653
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: fan if Mike Leach can't make it through. So prayers

654
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: up for the big guy and football cannot afford to

655
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: lose an absolute gem of a human. Hey, let's dive

656
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: into the Little Middlecoff mail bag. Start with Cam. This

657
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: is an old school account at John Middlecoff. Is the

658
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: Instagram fire in the dms. That's how you get your

659
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: question answered here on the show, Love the podcast. Isn't

660
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: Tom Brady to the Jets like the obvious move? If

661
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: he continues his career elite offensive weapons, good enough old

662
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: line assuming health studs everywhere that can compete with the

663
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: top end teams in the NFL. Bill's Chiefs, Bangles. Everything

664
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 1: has been a home run for two seasons now, Zach

665
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: Wilson the exception. I know what's the Jets and he

666
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: was a Patriot for however many years. But if he's

667
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: obsessed with winning and his being an assassin looking for

668
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: an opportunity, why aren't the Jets is team stay close

669
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: to a kid staying close to his kid out east.

670
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: You know, this is a good point which I have

671
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: not seen raised by anyone else. They do make a

672
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: lot of sense, right. They are loaded defense, multiple wide receivers,

673
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: more and Wilson. They're gonna get Bruce Hall back, they

674
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 1: got a couple other running backs, Their old lines pretty good.

675
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: They got picks. Only thing I would say is his

676
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: relationship with the owner, Bob Kraft is. I mean, it

677
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: feels like he's a second father. So now you could

678
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 1: say he sniffed around with the Dolphins, so maybe he's

679
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: not worried about playing in that division. That would be

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00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: the only hesitation I have for thinking that he won't

681
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: go to the Jets is he wouldn't want to have

682
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: to play against Bob Kraft, not Belichick. Not the Patriots,

683
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: but Kraft. Now that the Patriots story, or excuse me,

684
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: the Dolphins story that they got fined might throw that

685
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: theory out the window. The other thing is the Shanahan

686
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: offense which this team runs, does or is predicated on

687
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: your quarterback moving around, not like Lamar Jackson, but you

688
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: gotta be able to boots and waggles and just scramble

689
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: the left and scrambled to the right after the playfake

690
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: That is not Tom doesn't move. Now you could argue,

691
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: who are the Jets change your offense around him? Yeah,

692
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: I would say the more and more I think about

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00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 1: it does make some sense. So maybe you're onto something.

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Speaker 1: Have you noticed that there's a large amount of bad

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Speaker 1: coaches in the league this year. I think there's objectively

696
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: ten coaches that are bad Staley, Josh McDaniels, Dennis Allen, Hackett, McCarthy.

697
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: You know McCarthy ten and three and you twelve and

698
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: five last year. So I'm gonna take him off. Lovey Smith,

699
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 1: Kingsbury rule now, Wilkes right now, Saturday. That's not even

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Speaker 1: including coaches like Arthur Smith, Eberflus and even someone like

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00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: Stefanski whose time maybe running out. What do you think, oh,

702
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: and Todd Bulls, I think it's football. Most coaches are

703
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: not good, or excuse me, most coaches are. You are

704
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: looking to replace kind of like a offensive guard or

705
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: a corner. If you're the owner, like when I was

706
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: in the league, you're constantly thinking like how do we

707
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: upgrade our right guard or right tackle, or left corner

708
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: or starting safety and our second wide receiver. Just that's

709
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 1: the way teams operate. You know, if your team's just solid,

710
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: if your team's good, you're still thinking about, you know,

711
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: replacing a couple of guys. If your team sucks, your GM,

712
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: your coach are thinking about replacing all the players. Well,

713
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: your owner is thinking about replacing your coach. So I

714
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: would imagine if if I'm Dean Spanos, if I'm Mark Davis,

715
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Speaker 1: if I'm the Bensons, if I'm the Walmart people, if

716
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: I'm the Texans, if I'm yeah, all these people, I

717
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: mean the Panthers already interviewing people, I would imagine or

718
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: say's already sniffing around Arthur Smith. To me, there are

719
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: positives there, But how's he going to find a quarterback?

720
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Speaker 1: Now he is starting Ritter, We'll see how good he

721
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: is not the biggest fan. I mean, Todd Bowls is

722
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: gonna be one and done. If Brady leaves the Bucks,

723
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: which he's gonna do, whether he retires, goes to another team,

724
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: how are they not going to fire Todd Bowls? Feels

725
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: like a lock? But I also think this represents if

726
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Speaker 1: you went to like oh seven or two thousand and

727
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: two or nineteen ninety six, and you just looked at

728
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: all the head coaches, You'll see good ones, right Parcels,

729
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: Mike Holmgren, Bill Cower, who you know, Tony Dungee, whoever?

730
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: John Gruden back that note now, and then you'll probably

731
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Speaker 1: find a ton of coaches you're like that guy, that

732
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: guy who's that. That's just that's the way the sport is.

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Speaker 1: You know, for every Lincoln Riley and Nick Saban, a

734
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: lot of crabby coaches, you know, that's the way. It's

735
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: very very difficult. For every Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen,

736
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: there are average, below average quarterbacks starting. It's no different

737
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: with coaches. It's very very difficult to find good ones.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think this year is any different than

739
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: a couple years ago. Freddy Kitchens, Pat Shermer or Joe Judge.

740
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: You know you go through the names, You're like God,

741
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: these guys stink to question that must be discussed on

742
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: the podcast. How much credit does Dan Campbell deserve for

743
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: the success of the Lions offense? Do you think he

744
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: is played? He is calling any of the plays, he

745
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: did take over play calling last year, and is a

746
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: former tight end. All the credit seems to be going

747
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: toward Ben Johnson. I'm a longtime Lions fan, and I'm

748
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: worried that once good old Ben Johnson leaves in the

749
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: next year or two, the Lions are doomed. Honestly, I

750
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 1: don't know the inner workings of the Lions. I don't

751
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: think Dan Campbell's calling the plays. Watching that game last night,

752
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: they zoomed in on the play caller. I do think

753
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: he plays a role in the identity of the offense,

754
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: the physicality, the toughness of their offensive line. That they've

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00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: been one of the better running teams. It feels like,

756
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if statistics match up, but they feel

757
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: like they can run the ball on anyone. Their defense

758
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: has gotten a lot tougher, so to me, he is

759
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: in the mold of like John Harbob, Mike Tomlin, like,

760
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: that's kind of gonna be his deal. Little ra rayy,

761
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: tough guy leading the troops in the battle. He's never

762
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: gonna be viewed as like Kyle Shanahan or Sean Payton.

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00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: It's just not his deal. So yeah, he is gonna

764
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: be dependent on coordinators. But I don't know if the

765
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: Lions offensive coordinator is getting a head coaching job this year.

766
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: Could be wrong. We've seen crazier, but I would just

767
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: take a deep breath and enjoy the positivity that is

768
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: coming your way. And if the Lions start losing assistant

769
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,479
Speaker 1: coaches to head coaching, you're in very very good ship.

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00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: But I think we're at minimum still a year away

771
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: from that. I would be very very proud of the

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Speaker 1: squad this year, coaches and players. Longtime listener, longtime listener,

773
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: big fan, But gotta say I get consistently irritated by

774
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: the nauseating references to TB's age, but more specifically the

775
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: avocado ice cream praising. Anyone with the Pulse knows TB

776
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: is forty five years old. And while I understand he

777
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: is an outlier and a freak, and how he facilitates

778
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: his diet and physical and mental preparation. It is ridiculous

779
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: to continually applaud him for eating avocado ice cream. I mean,

780
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: it's twenty twenty two, and every single player in the league,

781
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: especially the Vets, are more or less making the decisions

782
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: like Tom Brady is in regards to their fitness, nutritional intake, etc.

783
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is not the only guy with admirable diet restrictions.

784
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: I mean, who are we kidding by implying this. We

785
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: need to stop this cliche. We blow the guy in

786
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: f already without making him seem like a hero for

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00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: choosing to eat ice cream made from avocados. We'll keep

788
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: listening and recommending your podcasts. And yes, I'm a Salty

789
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 1: Jets fan. When I bring up the avocado ice cream,

790
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,959
Speaker 1: I hope you know it's like ironically it's in jazz.

791
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: It's like I'm joking. I'm fucking with Tom Brady, like

792
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: it's a joke. Who doesn't like normal ice cream? I

793
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: do think, Yes, a lot of pro athletes, especially as

794
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: they get into their thirties, make changes to the diet

795
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: just like most of us normal humans. Any human that

796
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be a fat slob, like we gotta

797
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: eat different foods. You know, I would say, the last

798
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: week and a half, I've had a terrible diet. When

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Speaker 1: I gain a little weight, like it's from my eating,

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00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 1: when I'm disciplined with my diet, Like discipline with your

801
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: diet is I would say the number one hardest thing,

802
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: whether you're a pro athlete or whether you're a normal

803
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: human being, something we all battle. And I think it's

804
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: fair to say, non joking, the avocado ice cream is

805
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: a joke, Like Tom just you don't need to eat

806
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: avocado ice cream. But like he's disciplined for working out

807
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: in food is I mean, up there is unprecedented. It

808
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: just is, you know that being said, Like, yeah, he's

809
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: not alone, but he's also forty five years old. Now

810
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: he's playing shitty now. But what he did is I

811
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: don't know if ever gonna be. I mean, he's having

812
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: an outlier career. And I do think you gotta give

813
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: the guy some credit. I mean, he dedicated his entire life,

814
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: gave up his family. Man, he gave up his family.

815
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: But if you're eating avo kind of ice cream, I

816
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: would say, like most normal people, I think you're kind

817
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: of a weirdo. So listen, I have a lot of

818
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: reverence for Tom the player, as he's like football Jesus.

819
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw the clip going viral.

820
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: The forty nine ers lined up from guard to wide receivers.

821
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: Dre Greenlow took the ball that he intercepted Tom Brady

822
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: and he's like, man, I don't want to do this,

823
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: but can you sign my ball? Aaron Banks, who went

824
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: to Notre Dame, stood there and asked him to sign

825
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 1: his jersey and take a picture. I mean, these guys,

826
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 1: the reverence the other players in the league, These guys

827
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: that are twenty one, twenty two, twenty three years old,

828
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: they have for Tom Brady. Think about a lot. If

829
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: you're twenty three years old. When Tom was becoming a megastar,

830
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: you were eight nine years old and like oh seven

831
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: and the undefeated team, and then you get to play

832
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: against him. So like when I bring up the avocado

833
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: ice cream or anyone does, the talks about it. It's

834
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: because we've never seen anything quite like this. The players haven't,

835
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: You and I have it. Nobody he has now. He

836
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: sucks right now. He's terrible. It's hard to watch him.

837
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: I'd never watched Willie Mays for the Mets. But I

838
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: would imagine that's kind of what it looks like. It's

839
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: honestly kind of sad. Now is he going to retire?

840
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: Who knows, but we can we can't be hating on Tom. Tom,

841
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 1: and I know personally like Tom's been a huge reason

842
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: that the NFL has been more popular, Like he's their

843
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: biggest star for basically the last two decades, definitely the

844
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: last decade and a big reason people just that there's

845
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: not a woman that doesn't know who Tom Brady is.

846
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 1: There are a lot of women that don't know who

847
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen are. I mean, Tom is

848
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 1: the most transcendent star football has and more than likely

849
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: this could be his last couple of games. Tom Brady

850
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 1: to the Niners makes too much sense. Who on earth

851
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: would you trust more to manage a game on a

852
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: team that has defensively driven He's done it before with

853
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: the Patriots early in his career, and he's a million

854
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: times better now. Also, who would you want to mentor

855
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: Trey Lance other than the best quarterback ever? It's a

856
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: no brainer, Purdy, bro I want Purdy mentoring Trey Lance.

857
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: I would say Trey Lance's career is like in major

858
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: flux right now, not that the Niners are gonna get

859
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: rid of him or anything, but like there is absolutely

860
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: zero chance Tom Brady or not Tom Brady, Trey Lance

861
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: is gonna be the starting quarterback going in the offseason.

862
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: That's what happened last year. Same thing was Zack Wilson.

863
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: Those days are over. Like it's just not going to

864
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: happen for either guy. And clearly it's different. Like I said,

865
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: the players don't like Zach Wilson, players like Trey but

866
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 1: he's not gonna just be handed the job anymore because

867
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen in other positions and it happened at

868
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: quarterback and it kind of backfired. Now. I think the

869
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: forty nine ers are not going to sign Tom Brady.

870
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: I also don't think Tom Brady's gonna want to go

871
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: to the Bay Area. Like I said, I think Tom

872
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: Brady is headed to the Vegas Raiders with his avocado

873
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: ice cream. As somebody with a degree in finance and

874
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: mid level experience in different financial sectors, what's the best

875
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: way in your opinion, to track a career within sports? NFL,

876
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: NBA teams with hundreds of millions of dollars circulating through

877
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 1: these leagues, there has to be some entry for a career,

878
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: like even a relatively small market team like the Houston

879
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: Rockets in the NBA. Any advice, I think the easiest

880
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: way to get involved in careers that are difficult because

881
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: ultimately a lot of these teams, the Houston Rockets, the

882
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: Houston Texans, the doubt whoever, they're not enormous operations. Right. So,

883
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: if you're a finance guy, Welsh Fargo or Bank of

884
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: America are massive companies. They have branches in every city

885
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: everywhere you go, right, so you can get a job

886
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: and kind of get your foot in. That's not the

887
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: case with pro sports. Every you know, certain cities have

888
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: pro sports teams and then their operation is not nearly

889
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: as big as you think. I think the easiest way

890
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: is just get your foot in the door is in sales.

891
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 1: You're a business guy, get in sales if you have

892
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: like some extroverted tendencies, or you think you can close

893
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 1: and if you ticket sales, suite sales, and then kind

894
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: of get your in there that way. Now, if you

895
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: have a law degree, maybe try the contractual stuff. But

896
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: you have to realize, like these people, obviously they're enormous

897
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: businesses that they're all managed by business people. You know,

898
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: all these teams have a president of business operations. They

899
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 1: have law firms, you know, they have the big accounting firms.

900
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: It's not like they just have football coaches or basketball

901
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: coaches managing their money. So what I always recommend is,

902
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 1: and I did not have this, use LinkedIn to your benefit.

903
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: Use LinkedIn or Instagram or even Twitter, and find people

904
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: that have roles that like this guy manages a salary cap,

905
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: or this guy is the president of the team, and

906
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: shoot him an email. You know, think about this, like

907
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: if you're a coach like Nick Saban, Kyle Shanahan, Andy Reid, whatever,

908
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 1: you get a million coaches or a general manager right

909
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: like Hawie Roseman, John Schneider, you name it, a million

910
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: young outs and young coaches try to contact these guys.

911
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: How many young workers contact the team president. Probably not

912
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: as many as you think relative to the coaches. So

913
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: I actually think it's an easier entry point is the

914
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: business side. But use technology to your advantage. There are

915
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: a lot of those avenues when I in college, like

916
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: a six h seven when I was twenty two, twenty three,

917
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 1: twenty four, they didn't even exist, well, I had to

918
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: go old school away send a letter they got immediately

919
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: probably thrown in the trash. Technology. Baby, It's got a

920
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: sound falls, but it also has its benefits. You have

921
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: a great pod, but for fuck's sakes, can you go

922
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: one show without mentioning Staley or small arm quarterbacks? You're

923
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: turning into skip well. I mean, I think Brandon Saley

924
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 1: stinks and I don't like small arm quarterbacks beside Purty,

925
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: who's kind of growing on me. So no, I don't

926
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: think I can skip a show with doing that first

927
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: time in your DMS from Nova Scotia, you're my go

928
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: to podcast. Can't deal with other podcasts. Two questions for you.

929
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: In the past, you have talked about how who the

930
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: top coaches are and how even they needed the right

931
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: people around them Bill with Brady Read with Mahomes, Walsh

932
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: and Montana. Have you ever seen a really good coach

933
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: that could have been an all timer, but because of

934
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 1: ownership and general manager decisions didn't succeed and was considered

935
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: a mid of the road or bad coach maybe never

936
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: got another chance. Secondly, I'm not a Raider fan, actually

937
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: a Vikings guy, but I've always found their franchise to

938
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: be interesting. I know they are not one of the

939
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: wealthier teams and they are paying Josh McDaniels big bucks,

940
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: but they have to fire him, right, Josh McDaniel is

941
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: one of the most overrated head coaches ever. He has

942
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: got to go on the coaches, you know, Freddy Kitchens,

943
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: Jim tom Seula, you give them Mahomes, you give them

944
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, who knows. I mean, I'm sure it's happened,

945
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: you know, I'm big believer that cream eventually rise at

946
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: the top. I think most coaches figured out, and the

947
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: ones that don't we're never going to figure it out.

948
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: Same thing with players, and there are probably individual examples

949
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: of a player that got screwed of a coach that

950
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: got screwed. But I think for the most part, the

951
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: good coaches are the ones that you know of in

952
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: the main sports, and the bad coaches are the ones

953
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: that he dun't. Now, there are probably some mid level

954
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: guys that could have been a little bit better if

955
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: they had the right quarterback. But then there are also

956
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: you know, this guy doesn't want me to talk about

957
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: brand Stalley, but what if Brandon Staley had Baker Mayfield.

958
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: What if Brandon Staley had Geno Smith, I mean, would

959
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: he have lasted two seasons? You know, I think that

960
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: happens more often where an average coach, an average below coach,

961
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: gets a decent talent and that guy's able to just

962
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: have a longer career than he probably should have. The

963
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: Raiders are a fascinating franchise, you know. I spend a

964
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: lot of time around them when I was in the

965
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: radio business, and they have a collegiate field to them.

966
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 1: A lot of their former players take a lot of pride.

967
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: I mean their owner Mark obviously, his dad's Al Davis.

968
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: I mean, they just love the Raiders. But it's a

969
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: pretty dysfunctional place. It's a lot of lifetime employees. You know,

970
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: most good businesses, you know, higher from outside, especially as

971
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: you get bigger and bigger and money quadruples and you know,

972
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: ten x, twenty x fifty x, because you need different voices,

973
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: you need different thoughts. It's not really the way the

974
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: Raiders have ever operated. And yeah, I mean even when

975
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: they try to do something like hire Josh McDaniels, it fails. Now,

976
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of people dm me that go

977
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,959
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels. He's the most overrated coach of all time

978
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: and you watch his team like that was one of

979
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: the most embarrassing sequences we've ever seen. I mean that

980
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: was as someone that's hard on some of these other coaches,

981
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: that's that's inexcusable. Like that's just one of those things

982
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: where you get over the headset as the head coach

983
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: and you have to have some understanding of what's getting

984
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: this defense that under no circumstances they get in one

985
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 1: on one man coverage on the outside against Baker Mayfield.

986
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I don't know if he's gonna

987
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: be one and done, but I think the Raiders are

988
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: in major shambles. And like I said, I believe Tom Brady.

989
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: I think the owner will basically mandate to Josh and

990
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: I don't think Tom Brady's gonna have as many options

991
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: as people think, just like last time he did not

992
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: have that many options. But I think the Raiders are

993
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 1: going to be an option and I think they'll trade

994
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: Derek Carr. Can you explain how everyone jumps on the

995
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: Eagles saying, oh, they found a way to beat the Colts,

996
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: but then the Cowboys roll them and they become a

997
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: bad team. I'm not even sure what this question is asking.

998
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: I think we spend too much time like worrying what

999
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: a couple people say, talking heads say, you know, like

1000
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: the buzz on a team good or bad. Like ultimately,

1001
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: if you're a Cowboy fan and you're ten and three

1002
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: or you're an Eagle fan and you're twelve and one, right, like,

1003
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear team's pretty good going to the playoffs.

1004
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: All you want when the season starts is to be

1005
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: in the dance and have a shot. And unlike the

1006
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: other sports, like if you get into the basketball playoffs,

1007
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: if your team's not that good, you can easily get

1008
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: swept in the first round. If you get to the

1009
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: NFL playoffs, it's fucking one game. I mean, the forty

1010
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: nine ers were underdogs both times last year and whoop that?

1011
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: You know what? The Rams went on the road, like

1012
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: the Bucks were much better last season, and before the

1013
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: game got weird in the second half, kicked the crap

1014
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: out of the Bucks. The Bengals went on the road

1015
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: to Kansas City, their four straight AFC championship game. Every

1016
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: single human alive, including Bengals fans, Chiefs are gonna win

1017
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: this game. And what happened? You guys? Went to the

1018
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, So I'm not quite sure your questions asking,

1019
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't worry about that crap. Like, even if

1020
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: you're a Vikings fan, everyone's kind of shipping on you,

1021
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: calling you frauds. Well, just find a way to get

1022
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: the two seed, because you know what happens. If you

1023
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: get the two seed. You're guaranteed two home games, two

1024
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: games assuming you win the first. But like, that's a

1025
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: pretty big deal. Get the two seed. You can call

1026
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: me a fraud all you want. If the team I'm on,

1027
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: if the team I'm coaching, the team i'm a fan of,

1028
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,439
Speaker 1: gets the two seed. So I think we worry about

1029
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: too much about the outside crap. Love the show bro

1030
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: refreshing to have a personality with good takes. I agree

1031
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 1: question with Lincoln, chip rule and Big Dick Fick from

1032
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: joining the Big Ten. Ranked the top three coaches in

1033
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: the Big Ten, I would go hardball one. I would

1034
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: reluctantly say Ryan Day, but I'm not you know, he's

1035
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: forty five and five, but I just do not trust

1036
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: him in a big game. He could shut me up.

1037
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: He beats Georgia, who knows he can win the national Championship.

1038
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: I don't think he will. I think George is gonna

1039
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: shove them around. But you can't ever just beat the

1040
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: Ohio State as talent. Who else would be there? Rule

1041
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: on No, Lincoln, Lincoln would be right. Lincoln and Luke

1042
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: Fickle I would have really really high I mean, Luke

1043
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: Fickle took Cincinnati to the playoffs. That's pretty impressive. I'd

1044
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: probably go Lincoln then Luke Fickle. I think PJ. Flex

1045
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: is pretty good. You know, say what you want about

1046
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: James Franklin. Not a great in game guy. It's college football.

1047
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: Just recruit your ass off. You're in games, Like, yeah,

1048
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: they're never gonna win the national championship, but Penn State's

1049
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: gonna win ten eleven games every year. Like Penn State

1050
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: is pretty good between nine and eleven games. Yeah, they're

1051
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 1: not Michigan Ohio State, and he's not mister dynamic coach,

1052
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: but he can recruit and their team always is super loaded,

1053
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 1: and if they ever just hit on the right quarterback,

1054
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe they could win the Big Ten. I

1055
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: think the Big Ten coaching is really really good. Obviously,

1056
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: adding Matt Rule, we'll see. I think it's not that

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Speaker 1: I'm not bullish on him. Because clearly he's pretty into it.

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Speaker 1: But you know, you watch him talk, it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a little political, you know, in terms of he's just

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Speaker 1: kind of a politician, which James Franklin is too. That's

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Speaker 1: he's going to be a recruiter. What's his scheme? Tough guy,

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Speaker 1: canny recruit to Nebraska. I don't know, we'll see. I

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Speaker 1: guess I'm not as I'm not not bullish because you've

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Speaker 1: got to be excited for the higher he's one, but

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough. Like, I know you can win

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Speaker 1: a Penn State. I know you can win at Wisconsin obviously, Michigan,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State USC. To me, Chip isn't I don't think

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Speaker 1: Chip even makes the Big Ten. What would be one

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Speaker 1: take I have? I do not think Chip Kelly makes

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Speaker 1: the Mick Ten. If I was the UCLA after next year,

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Speaker 1: I would fire Chip Kelly and I'd hire Jonathan Smith

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Speaker 1: at Oregon State. LA guy winning at Oregon State. You know,

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Speaker 1: loves defense, can really coach the run game. Just need

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Speaker 1: some players he'll be able to recruit at UCLA. That's

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Speaker 1: what I do. So the Big Ten, you could argue

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Speaker 1: coach for coach. Now it's hard when you get Sabin

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Speaker 1: and Kirby in your conference, but the Big ten might

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Speaker 1: be deeper with coaches. Okay, appreciate everyone listening with your friends.

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Speaker 1: Check out The Volume's YouTube page, and yeah, I will

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