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Speaker 2: This is John the og story Time podcast host.

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Speaker 2: Propped up like a little house. Oh yeah, my roommate's

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Speaker 2: boyfriend's loud snores make me lose sleep every night.

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Speaker 1: It's nothing to close. Ben couldn't fix.

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Speaker 2: Trigger warning, verbal mistreatment, okay. I twenty four female do

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Speaker 2: not even know where to begin. My roommate, Claire, they're

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Speaker 2: always trouble. Twenty three female is a good friend of

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Speaker 2: mine and it has been since college. Her boyfriend, Mike

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Speaker 2: twenty five mail is a good guy for the most part.

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Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from a log song. And

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Speaker 1: I'm Riley, I'm Angie, and.

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Speaker 2: We're here to give good advice. Goofully, that's our job.

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Speaker 2: Your job is to comment what you know, and we're

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Speaker 2: gonna have a good time here. As Op says, I

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Speaker 2: like him, but it's one of those situations where they're

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Speaker 2: not a good couple. Well, is that our situation? Our situation, dude.

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Speaker 2: Some comments are like do they even know each other and.

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Speaker 1: They don't know that we're dating. Well, okay, we're dating

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Speaker 1: by the way new people. Oh yeah, just for anyone watching,

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Speaker 1: because we're probably gonna mention that stuff about that. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Some people come and they're like they

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Speaker 1: don't even know each other. It's like we haven't been

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Speaker 1: dating forever. Like, yeah, we're still gonna figure out new

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Speaker 1: things about each other. Come on.

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Speaker 2: They always get in silly fights and are constantly annoying

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Speaker 2: each other. It is weird because separately they are great,

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Speaker 2: but together they are not the best couple. I'm super

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Speaker 2: busy during the week with a full time job, full

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Speaker 2: time grad school, and hobbies, so I'm usually in bed

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Speaker 2: pretty early. We have a small apartment, but since Mike

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Speaker 2: works close by, he always ends up at our house.

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Speaker 2: It is a little annoying because he's really there almost

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Speaker 2: every night, but so some not around too much, basically

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Speaker 2: just there to sleep and eat. I try not to

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Speaker 2: rock the boat. Like I said, I like him and

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Speaker 2: she's a good friend in a roommate figure pick of battles,

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Speaker 2: but there is one big issue. He snores so f

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Speaker 2: ing loud, like legitimate log sawyer type so loud. Oh man,

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Speaker 2: your dad snores. Yes, We'll be watching a movie in

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Speaker 1: Be like, he's falling asleep to the TV in the

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Speaker 1: he asked me if there's a lot more happening outside,

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Speaker 1: and it was like, no, you asked Oh I did, okay, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I thought he asked that. No, no, no, you asked

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Speaker 1: me that. And it was like nine pm or something

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Speaker 1: like that, and I was like, no, that's my that's

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Speaker 1: my dad. He's right over there. He's just sleeping. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: classic dad.

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Speaker 2: Angie snores all the time.

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Speaker 1: I maybe I'm asleep when I'm doing that, So I

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Speaker 1: don't know. But you definitely snore more than you think.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, yes you do, and it's random bursts.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, though, I don't mind. I'm a I'm a

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Speaker 1: tough sleeper, so good hard sleeper. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: For whatever reason, it is time out with the snoring thing. Actually,

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Speaker 2: I don't snore that much. It's like barely right.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's not consistent, every other month more

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Speaker 1: frequent than that. No, anyway, We're gonna keep going.

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Speaker 2: For whatever reason. It's just really starting to bugging me

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Speaker 2: these last few nights. I usually can ignore it and

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Speaker 2: Do not get in between a queen and her sleep,

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Speaker 2: all right, don't do it, true, I've done it before.

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Speaker 2: It's not good. You can maybe get a bye with

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Speaker 2: it for a couple of days. After that, don't want

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Speaker 1: Figure out your sleep apnea or whatever. Get some sort

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Speaker 1: of sleep apnea masket. Figure out those snores.

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Speaker 2: I decided I should say something because he's really at

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Speaker 2: He called me a witch, and I was super rude

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Speaker 2: same thing to him. Now, apparently me making breakfast in

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Speaker 1: All right. I will say I feel like the way you.

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Speaker 2: Told him that could have been worded a little differently.

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Speaker 2: What he did was completely wrong and should never said that.

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I mean I could see I would wonder

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Speaker 1: how you really did say it, because you can text

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Speaker 1: read what you said, but your tone is important and

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Speaker 1: hard to say here. I feel like it's possible for

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Speaker 1: it to be like chill if you'd make a joke

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Speaker 1: like figure that out what's going on up there? In

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Speaker 1: that nose of yours or something, you know, but that

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Speaker 1: could obviously, like I'm assuming either way, it wasn't that bad.

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Speaker 1: Whatever it was, it wasn't enough to elicit this reaction.

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Speaker 2: If my roommate Alex smelled bad, how would you approach him?

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Speaker 1: I would tell you, and I would tell you to

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Speaker 1: do it, because you're the one that lives there, and

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's the way ohp should have went,

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Speaker 2: probably say something to her roommate, and then the roommate

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Speaker 2: I know it's a little different dynamic because you don't

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Speaker 2: live there, yeah, at my apartment. But it's one of

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Speaker 2: those sensitive things where you have to hey, yeah, this

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Instead of, hey, you snore really loud and then leave that. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: it's bad.

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Speaker 1: Does that look bad? Guys tell me? Yeah, let us know.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the directness of it, and I appreciate her

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Speaker 1: going straight to the source, but but yeah, maybe there's

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Speaker 2: I was super freaked out and immediately just left. He's

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to get the heck out of there.

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Speaker 2: I do not know what to do. I do not

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Speaker 2: staying late to do some homework, but also because I

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Speaker 2: even know how to formulate the right sentence. We have

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Speaker 2: comments big scary guy. Find a big scary guy friend,

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Speaker 2: I have him break the news to him.

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Speaker 1: Mmmm, get your own big scary guy. That's a good idea.

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Speaker 1: I think. You know, if you come home, start recording

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Speaker 1: everything just in case. You can delete recordings if you

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Speaker 1: need to, but record things just in case he blows

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Speaker 1: up at you again. It's definitely a problem. You need

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Speaker 2: And apartment lisaes have a thing where people can't stay

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Speaker 2: concefocutively for like seven days, fourteen eight.

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Speaker 1: Something like that, depending on the place.

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Speaker 1: The place, probably looking at Yeah, sure, thing that happened.

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Speaker 2: To my college drums a lot.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: People would stay for a number of periods and when

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Speaker 2: and RA would have to like, hey, man, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: Here, right, Yeah, it's a thing. Some places don't even

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Speaker 1: allow overnight guests at all. Relevant comments what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: What she's snoring over here? I just did A yawn

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything.

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Speaker 2: Innocuous, Terror says, check your lease. There's likely a clause

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Speaker 2: or your roommate can have overnight guests. I would suggest

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Speaker 2: setting up a time to discuss with your roommate and

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Speaker 2: let her know that not only is her boyfriend, who

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Speaker 2: is not on the lease, a disturbance to your piece,

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Speaker 2: but he screamed at you, made you feel threatened in

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure she will be on my side. It's

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Speaker 2: just such a bummer because I did like Mike, he

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Speaker 2: update two days later they break up.

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Speaker 1: You think that's gonna happen. Yeah, yeah, I hope. So

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Speaker 1: he seems that's an uncool moved. You don't want an

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Speaker 2: I yell at people on the basketball court because that's

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Speaker 1: And that's what you're saying too. I mean that I'm

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Speaker 1: like box out. Yeah, why is no one who's on him? Yeah? See,

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Speaker 1: that's like get on a man. That's fine, that's cool.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Wow, So a lot has happened since my last post.

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Speaker 2: The aliens showed up on my door and stole my dog.

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Speaker 1: Whoa, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I got your guys are listening. That was fake. First

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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, you are. I'm not worried about how she

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Speaker 1: said it. She just opened the door and she's like,

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Speaker 1: you're snoring too loud, Then then that's not cool. But

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Speaker 1: you're snoring so loud, oh stop, but she didn't say

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Speaker 2: We know that that's a hard one. A hard one.

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Speaker 2: If you had to give uncomfortable I guess advice to someone,

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Speaker 2: or not even advise. What would you say uncomfortable teas,

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Speaker 2: I have something uncomfortable. Tell angree out of this, and

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Speaker 1: Please please let him know fast. I want to know.

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Speaker 2: If I didn't open the door a bit, he would

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I fell asleep with air pods in one time,

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Speaker 2: I have done the texting thing, I've done the accidentally

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Speaker 2: I noticed something you cannot control. But what am I

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Speaker 2: that's that I regret nothing. I am not super rude

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Speaker 1: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: I explained what happened in said something like, look, Claire,

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Speaker 1: Are they even like together anymore? Did Mike say something

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Speaker 2: When I got there, she said he had texted her

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Speaker 2: He said I was out of line. She was going

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Speaker 2: she felt awful. I guess he has really been verbally

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Speaker 2: wanted out. This was just the final straw, all right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, if he's not comfortable yelling at a

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Speaker 1: think you got that backwards? No, I said what I said.

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Speaker 1: If he's comfortable yelling at people he's not close with,

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Speaker 1: but it should be backwards. He shouldn't be comfortable yelling

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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know christ name. I don't even care.

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Speaker 1: With that's much I care about this guy, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm glad that that Claire and op have

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Speaker 1: glad that Claire has understood OPU when she was honest

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Speaker 2: We talked for about two hours about a plan of

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Speaker 2: I was glad we could talk openly and she felt

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Speaker 2: there have been lots of yelling and very little happiness.

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Speaker 2: It was her first serious relationship, so she assumed this

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Speaker 2: got a little bit left here. I like this rule.

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Speaker 1: I like this too.

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Speaker 2: I'm about to give you a rule here.

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Speaker 1: Oh never mind. Here's the rule that.

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Speaker 2: No matter if you've been in a relationship for the

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Do the friend rule.

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Speaker 1: I like that one too. I like that too. A

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Speaker 1: similar one that I like. Yes, like Imagine if you're

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Speaker 1: how they're treating you is great. Imagine you marrying that

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Speaker 1: all of it.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot more steps, though, it is.

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Speaker 1: A lot more steps. That's friend works.

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Speaker 2: No, this is good.

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Speaker 1: There's multiple ways of doing this. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think Angelina and I are going to make a

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Speaker 1: And it's that and it's just that rule. Take very

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Speaker 2: Boom, score, there we go, all right. I picked her

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Speaker 2: it went surprisingly well and that he felt bad about everything,

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Speaker 1: Oh you feel bad now that I'm about to break

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Speaker 2: He agreed it had not been working out, and although

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Speaker 2: Her situation was much more serious, and I was not

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Speaker 2: though Mike seemed okay with the breakup, we notified the

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Speaker 2: I truly hope he does not, but better safe than sorry.

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Speaker 2: I'm just glad she's okay that I don't have to

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Speaker 2: deal with this craziness and loud snoring anymore. I slept

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good ending, Yes, yes, put down your sleep packs

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Speaker 2: I want to hear them.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, what would your sleep pack be? Me? Just any

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Speaker 1: A good fan. I like a good massage. You had

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Speaker 1: I sleep on my side, and you got me on.

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Speaker 2: Any four pillows to go to sleep. Yeah, legs, bottom

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Speaker 2: I don't need the one hold. Actually sometimes I do

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Speaker 2: because you get hot and I'm like I can't, I can't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. I need space sometimes, all right.

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Speaker 2: Final comments, Luna Berry says that went better than expected.

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Speaker 2: Communication can prevent or in a lot of issues. I'm

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Speaker 2: glad it worked out for you and your roommate, Opi

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Speaker 2: Opie says, I'm so happy. Not only is my buddy

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Speaker 2: We are hoping this is a lesson for Mike as well.

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Speaker 2: Everyone wins, Yeah, hopefully. My angle with Mike is that

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Speaker 2: since he was in public, he had an image to

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Speaker 1: That's why it's a good idea to break up with

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Speaker 2: That's why I avoid being in public with Angelina, because

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Speaker 2: if that happens, she could pull the trigger.

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Speaker 1: Any them live acts every well, life hacts.

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Speaker 2: That's the end of that story. We got another one

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Speaker 1: Yup, we sure do. I refuse to support my roommate's

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Speaker 2: Should never one have kids.

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Speaker 1: I met Amy my freshman year of college. We were

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Speaker 1: this comes from am I the crazy One, directly from

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Speaker 1: all one of our own? And if you want to

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Speaker 1: story time supreddits and you can submit your own stories.

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Speaker 1: But I'm Angie, I'm Riley, and we're here to give

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Speaker 1: good advice. Goofully. Oh we don't have all the answers.

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Speaker 1: We just know what we would do in these situations.

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Speaker 1: So let us know what you would do in the comments.

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Speaker 1: Opie says their families were super close and they did

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Speaker 1: everything together growing up. Their families were so close that

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Speaker 1: they even did holidays and family vacations together. She'd often

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Speaker 1: joked that he was almost like her brother, and since

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Speaker 1: Ben was eleven months older than Amy, he really did

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Speaker 1: treat her like little sister, being protective of her and

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Speaker 1: checking in on her and talking regularly. Oh. I met

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Speaker 1: Ben the same week I met Amy because he went

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Speaker 1: to a neighboring college in the same city, and he

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Speaker 1: came over to visit regularly. He was really nice, and

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Speaker 1: the three of us got along well, and we all

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Speaker 1: would do things together when we were in in class. Now,

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Speaker 1: Amy and I lived together all through college. Our second year,

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Speaker 1: we moved into an apartment off campus. Ben actually found

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Speaker 1: us the apartment because it was in his building, two

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Speaker 1: floors up from his place that he shared with his

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Speaker 1: roommate Clint. Their bachelor pad was, as you'd expect, sturdy,

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Speaker 1: so when we're filled probably so when we moved and

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Speaker 1: we'd all hang out, they'd usually come to our place.

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Speaker 1: We had a great time and made some of the

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Speaker 1: best memories.

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Speaker 2: All right, I feel like I'm about to that with

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Speaker 2: the roommate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, make all the best memories.

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Speaker 2: Well, someone's looking for an apartment now, Okay, we got an

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Speaker 2: apartment in my apartment complex. Yeah, come check it out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, are they interested?

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Speaker 2: I think with the amount of rent it costs there

472
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Speaker 2: probably would be.

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Speaker 1: Pretty nice, huh. At some point freshman year, Ben asked

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Speaker 1: me out and we went on a few dates. We

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Speaker 1: kissed a couple of times that there was no chemistry,

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Speaker 1: and we mutually decided to continue being friends. What you

477
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Speaker 1: can kiss someone and still be friends with them. I guess, Okay,

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Speaker 1: why are you interested interesting and kissing someone was still

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Speaker 1: being friends with them?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I have kissed someone that we're now just friends,

481
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Speaker 2: don't I don't talk to her anymore though.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so not okay, got it? Hey, you can do that.

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Speaker 2: I forgot but anyway, Sorry, that must be hard for you.

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Speaker 1: Now it's okay, I appreciate it. You're welcome. I was.

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Speaker 1: I was kind of joking.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Amy was bummed because she thought we made a

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Speaker 1: cute couple. But life went on. I didn't date much

489
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Speaker 1: because I was focusing on school and seemed to have

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Speaker 1: a problem where I'd get really awkward when I found

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Speaker 1: someone attractive. Ben would date off and on, but nothing

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Speaker 1: was serious enough to stick. Amy casually dated if you

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Speaker 1: guys in college, but they never really went anywhere, and

494
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Speaker 1: Clinton was kind of eno f boy, and we got

495
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Speaker 1: tired of trying to learn a new girl's name every week,

496
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Speaker 1: so eventually we created the rule that unless someone's partner

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Speaker 1: slash fling had been around for at least a month,

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Speaker 1: the group didn't meet them. As a result, when we

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Speaker 1: hung out, it was usually just the four of us.

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Speaker 1: It was a perfect setup. There was really no odd

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Speaker 1: wheels or awkward sorry what's your name again? Situations? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's fine, that's nice. I forget people's names so fast.

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Speaker 2: She does, I do?

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Speaker 1: I need to meet you like three times and have

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Speaker 1: a conversation with you each of those three times. Which

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Speaker 1: one Olivia's mom sun?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, all right, cool, let's go. And she

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Speaker 2: has met her exactly three times.

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Speaker 1: We didn't see her that last time. Actually, I probably

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Speaker 1: met her three maybe three times. You passed?

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Speaker 2: You passed?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I passed. I didn't even need to meet her

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Speaker 1: three times. I did it. When Ben and Clint graduated,

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Speaker 1: we all went out and made a night of it.

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Speaker 1: There was a nice dinner with all of us and

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Speaker 1: the parents Clint's parents, Bob, Beth, Andy, and Amanda. Then

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Speaker 1: the four of us went out for drinks, dancing, and

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Speaker 1: an after party at our place that included drinking games.

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Speaker 1: Eventually we ended up playing a combo strip poker slash

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Speaker 1: truth or Dare game.

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Speaker 2: Oh fun?

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Speaker 1: Nice. Now, I'm pretty sure that if I told you

523
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Speaker 1: that wasted half unclosed college students playing a game of

524
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Speaker 1: Dare ended up turning spicy, you probably wouldn't be surprised.

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Speaker 1: So here we are. It started off pretty innocently, with

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Speaker 1: a kiss here or an embarrassing lap dance there, and

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Speaker 1: then it turned a little less innocent. Oh oh oh.

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Speaker 1: Clint was too afraid to go anywhere near Amy because

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Speaker 1: I think he knew that Ben would not approve, especially

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Speaker 1: with his reputation of running through girls faster than he

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Speaker 1: changed his docks. So Ben and Amy ended up hooking

532
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Speaker 1: up by the end of the night, and Clint and

533
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Speaker 1: I did as well. Wow, wow, not innocent at all.

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Speaker 1: So Ben and Amy did it? Benamy? Yeah? Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: Clint stayed away from Amy. Wow okay, well yeah, okay,

536
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Speaker 1: and it was bound to happen, I guess.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, your watch friends, Oh yeah, this is this

538
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Speaker 2: is literally friends true.

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Speaker 1: The next morning, in the sober light of day, we

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Speaker 1: all stumbled into the living room and voted for the

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Speaker 1: guys to grab us breakfast and electrolytes while we picked

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Speaker 1: up the disaster that was our apartment. While cleaning, Amy

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Speaker 1: told me that she and Ben had been up early

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Speaker 1: talking and they had both had deep feelings for each other,

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Speaker 1: but it had always been too scared to cross that line,

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Speaker 1: and now that they had, they wanted to see where

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Speaker 1: it all went. Oh wow, what a funny story to

548
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Speaker 1: tell someone about how your relationship started.

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Speaker 2: So we were like brother and sister for both of

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Speaker 2: our lives.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but when we got called, Yeah, we hooked up.

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Speaker 1: We played a game, played a little game of strip

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Speaker 1: Dare truth with poker. Hmmm, and then we boinked. Now

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Speaker 1: I see you.

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Speaker 2: Why you would be a little cautious about your friend

556
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Speaker 2: having kids with this guy, because I.

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Speaker 1: Totally forgot that's what the title said. We haven't even

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Speaker 1: gotten there.

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00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 2: Yet, because they would have to tell the story of

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Speaker 2: how their parents get Mady, I would not want to

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Speaker 2: tell that story.

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Speaker 1: That's true. Then, I guess you would just go with

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Speaker 1: the story of how you met, which is probably way

564
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Speaker 1: more innocent, rather than how you started dating.

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Speaker 2: Nah, you got to tell the whole thing, not to

566
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Speaker 2: your children. Yeah, how old are they supposed to know?

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Speaker 1: They don't need to know, that's the point, hope, he continues. Cool, great, congratulations.

568
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Speaker 1: I was very excited for them best friends turning into

569
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Speaker 1: a relationship, probably a better basis than Hey, we met

570
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Speaker 1: at a bar one night. I was a little worried

571
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Speaker 1: that it would change the group dynamic, but I wasn't

572
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Speaker 1: about to worry about something that hadn't happened yet, and

573
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: they both seemed really happy, so I was happy for them.

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Speaker 1: When the guys got back and we were all eating,

575
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Speaker 1: then smiles and asked how my night with the famous

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Speaker 1: Clint went. I giggled and said that it was fine,

577
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Speaker 1: but that I could see why he didn't have many

578
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Speaker 1: repeat dates.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, Oh no, he is one trick wonder.

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Speaker 1: Oh no. Then I felt bad when Clint asked what

581
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Speaker 1: I meant the rather sad slash hurt look on his face.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, ud Loki, Clint, I feel like you need

583
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Speaker 2: the feedback, So let's take this with a gracious heart.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think if he's been going through girls but

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Speaker 1: he's not meaning to, then he's gonna need to know.

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Speaker 2: Oh it was the thumb thing. Okay, oh god, you

587
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 2: don't need to do that with the thumb thing.

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Speaker 1: No go into details, that's whenever you ops. I pointed

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Speaker 1: out that while the intimate stuff was pretty mind blowing

590
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: both the night before and that morning, hey o. He

591
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Speaker 1: then gave me a high five and said good game

592
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: before getting redressed and looking for breakfast, which left the

593
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Speaker 1: encounter a little awkward and reminded me that I was

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Speaker 1: one of many, making it an experience that I wasn't

595
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Speaker 1: longing to repeat. Oh, it's because when he was practicing

596
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: with his boys, that's what he would do at the

597
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: end with his voice. Yeah, definitely. So he's just not romantic, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I goes, I guess not. Yeah, all right, and maybe

599
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: that romance is what would keep someone there longer.

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Speaker 2: And he knows that, and he feels like if he

601
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Speaker 2: is romantic with someone, it might stay longer, and he's

602
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Speaker 2: not ready for that.

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Speaker 1: Relly, he's posing for a book cover right now. My

604
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: smut readers, how was that? Lo? Did you buy that cover? How?

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00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: Smut readers, how important is the cover of the book?

606
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: Let us know? He was pretty quiet for a while,

607
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Speaker 1: but we eventually talked one on one. Apparently he had

608
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Speaker 1: liked me for a long time but felt awkward talking

609
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Speaker 1: about it because he knew how people looked at him,

610
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Speaker 1: and he had panicked in the morning because he wasn't

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Speaker 1: sure how I felt about it. Then he asked if

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Speaker 1: he could take me on a real day with no

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Speaker 1: expectations of how it would end, and that he'd be

614
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: a perfect gentleman, and he was, let me cut to

615
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: the chase. We are now married and have three kids

616
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Speaker 1: with a fourth on the way. What what is happening here? Hey,

617
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Speaker 1: it's Sam, your og host here. Bring it back to

618
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Speaker 1: the stories.

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Speaker 2: But here's three minutes, bads from our smat.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, are we watching a movie right now? You

621
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: sure did cut right to the chase. Holy cow, that

622
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: was a lot more cutting than I thought was gonna happen.

623
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Speaker 1: He was just looking for the right girl. I guess,

624
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this happens. Though this happens, it totally

625
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: does like it's a good thing. But that was a

626
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: way bigger jump than I thought it was gonna be.

627
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Speaker 2: I didn't think Clint, who never changes his socks, would

628
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Speaker 2: marry you.

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Speaker 1: He ain't have kids with you. Sure he doesn't change

630
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: his song. That's not quite what was said. Yes it was, No,

631
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Speaker 1: he wasn't. So he looks up with girls more more

632
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: times than he changes his socks. It just shows you

633
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Speaker 1: how many girls he's he's getting with, or how often

634
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: he changes his socks. Okay, that's true, that's true. If

635
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Speaker 1: he never changes his socks, he's the urgent Mary.

636
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: No, he's gonna have one down, but he's gonna have to.

637
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna have to. I'm saying, if he never

638
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: changes his socks, I'm not getting in this whatever. After

639
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: the guys graduated, they got jobs nearby, and as we

640
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: pair off, there was eventually a shuffling of apartments. I

641
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: move dinner with Clinton, Ben moved in with Amy. Our

642
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: final year of college was a blast, and as our

643
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: graduation came, we made plans for another big family dinner,

644
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: and then we all planned a short vacation to Mexico. Wow.

645
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: So fun. This is so fun. We're also not even

646
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Speaker 1: halfway through this story, by the way, so.

647
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: We can there's time for everything to crash.

648
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, sadly. So graduation comes. We walk across the stage,

649
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Speaker 1: We do all the pictures and things, but before one

650
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: of the pictures, Ben gives Amy a hug and kiss.

651
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Speaker 1: Click click. Pictures taken, but the parents get really quiet.

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Speaker 1: The entire atmosphere changed in an instant. Now, Amy and

653
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: Ben hadn't told their parents that they had been dating

654
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,239
Speaker 1: for the last year because they wanted to see how

655
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: things went and enjoyed the privacy of their relationship before

656
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: bringing their families into it. Oh because being that college

657
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: bubble is nice, and OPI continues, because they had been

658
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: raised together and their parents all best friends, they didn't

659
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: want to let them in on what was going on

660
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: until they knew the relationship would work out. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

661
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: Conspiracy theory, Okay, their parents were swingers. That's actually his sister.

662
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: I hope that's not true. Well, why did they always

663
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: go on family vacations together for their fans are besties.

664
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: That's what would happen with this couple, op and Clint

665
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: and Amy and Ben.

666
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: If they How did both of their relationships start though

667
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: that one faithful night when everyone was playing a little

668
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: innocent game.

669
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's what it is, bro, dude, I

670
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: hope not.

671
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: I'm calling it.

672
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay, let's find out. And if they approve,

673
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have been quiet. They'd be like, oh interesting,

674
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. They'd be like whoa, yeah, we

675
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: have to tell them the truth now, Oh my god,

676
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So Amy and I finish up pictures

677
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: and off to dinner we went. I went with my

678
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 1: parents and Clint into our car. Amy and Ben we

679
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: went with all their parents in the other when we

680
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: met at the restaurant. The atmosphere was still weird, and

681
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: the parents seemed worried, and Amy and Ben seemed annoyed

682
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: and upset. In the bathroom, Amy told me that the

683
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: parents were all asking a million questions and getting really personal.

684
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: Ben's parents told them they couldn't support the relationship, while

685
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: Amy's parents went a step further and forbid them from dating,

686
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: stating that them dating would damage the friendship between both

687
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: families when they break up. M oh god. Ben pointed

688
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: out that he and Amy were grown adults and couldn't

689
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: be forbidden from anything, and then he told both sets

690
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: of parents and he was sorry that they felt that way,

691
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: but they would continue to date and hoped everyone could

692
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: some day come to terms with the relationship. The dinner

693
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: was so uncomfortable that my parents eventually asked if they

694
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: should go and we could meet up later, but Amy

695
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: begged them to stay because it was keeping her parents

696
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: and Ben's parents from asking more intrusive questions. When the

697
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 1: dinner was over, the four of us were making our

698
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: plans go out. Amy and Ben said goodbye to their parents,

699
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: promising to talk the next day when everyone had a

700
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: chance to process things. Overall, we had a fun night

701
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: and we're excited for our trip the next night. The

702
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: next day, Clint and I spent time with my family,

703
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: and Ben and Amy had their parents over to their

704
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: apartment for a talk. When we met Ben and Amy

705
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: at the airport for our trip, something was clearly up,

706
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: but nobody was talking. Oh, I'm about to be right,

707
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: I think you might meet dude. Amy wouldn't tell me

708
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: what was going on, and Ben told Clint that he

709
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: didn't want to talk about it. When Clint asked. Everything

710
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: started off with that weird atmosphere from before, but after

711
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: a day or two we were back to our usual

712
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: group dynamic. By the end of our trip, it was like,

713
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: nothing weird it ever happened. Okay, our last night, Ben

714
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: proposed to Amy on the beach, whoa, okay, so maybe not.

715
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: Then Ben proposed to Amy on the beach and was like.

716
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: This is my parent's fault, not my fault, and I'm

717
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: going to stay with the person I love.

718
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, They're just going with it. Clint said

719
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: Ben told him about the proposal months before it happened,

720
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: and he'd been searching for the right ring for a while.

721
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: Amy was so happy she was crying and asked me

722
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: to be her maid of honor, which I accepted immediately.

723
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: Cut two weeks later, when we were talking about wedding

724
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 1: plans and Amy tells me she and Ben are eloping

725
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: because they didn't want any interference from their parents, who

726
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: were adamantly against them getting married. I suggested everyone going

727
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: to therapy to try and work out the situation and

728
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: have a nice neutral place to discuss things where a

729
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: mediator would keep things calm, but Amy said it wouldn't happen. Finally,

730
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: Amy told me what happened with the parents the morning

731
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: of the trip. Okay, we're gonna find out.

732
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: Oh boy, this is something a counselor cannot help with.

733
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: Amy's parents, Andy and Amanda, and Ben's parents Bob and

734
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: Beth had all met in their early twenties when they

735
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: lived next door to each other. So far a repeat

736
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 1: of our situation. Both couples had moved from other states

737
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 1: and didn't know anyone in the area, so the couples

738
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: became close. How close as they got to know one another,

739
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: the couples became non monogamous and would regularly switch things

740
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: up in the partner department. I freaking called that. Oh

741
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: my god.

742
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: As soon as they said they got quiet, I called

743
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: them because full course shot right there.

744
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: Because at the beginning too, they were like, oh yeah,

745
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: they're like only eleven, they're only eleven months apart in age.

746
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: They're like brother and sister, like brother and sister. Oh

747
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: my god, Oh my god, Oh my god. From the

748
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: sound of it, this arrangement was still going on at

749
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: the time of this conversation. Oh my god. Oh eh.

750
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: The parents were concerned that Amy and Ben's relationship would

751
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: strain the parents' relationship, causing a rift in what they

752
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: called their family unit ew, which is why both families

753
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: did absolute everything together. Their parents also said that they

754
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: raised Amy and Ben together as siblings, so it was

755
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: uncomfortable seeing them dating, and because they couldn't one one

756
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: hundred percent be sure that they weren't related. Oh no,

757
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: first secondary thought that you were like kind of off

758
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: because it was just about their relationship, like the parents'

759
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: relationship being awkward. But if they're not one hundred percent

760
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: sure that they're not related, I wouldn't want to get

761
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: engaged right away after that.

762
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: But it also plays this weird thing in your mind

763
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: of I have been so close to this person, they

764
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 2: were like my sister, but they never were. But this

765
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: is the closest person I have ever been with, and

766
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: I love them so much, and this sounds like their

767
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 2: first serious relationship. What else are you supposed to tell someone?

768
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: And as soon as you tell a young couple you

769
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 2: aren't supposed to be together, what is that couple gonna do? Angie?

770
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they're gonna want to be together.

771
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: But if, against any odds, against the world, you have

772
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: fortified them to stay together forever.

773
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: Now, well, I don't know if it's against all that.

774
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: I think if you forbid someone from being together, I

775
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: think they're not going to go against Game of Thrones

776
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: type fun. I don't think it's gonna be against that.

777
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: I think that will be a condition for a lot

778
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: of people.

779
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: I don't know now seeing this, who knows what the

780
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: household growing.

781
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: If you and I were going to get married and

782
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: I found out that our parents were borink in with

783
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: each other and we weren't one hundred percent sure that

784
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: we were siblings, I don't know if I could do it.

785
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: I don't think I could.

786
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 2: Marriage that we were nineteen or twenty in this situation,

787
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: not the age we are now. Still this is our

788
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 2: first relationship together. Still, still, I'm the closest person you've

789
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 2: ever been with.

790
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't don't think i'd be. I'm not saying I.

791
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: Would be doing it.

792
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: But that is the circumstances that this couple is. I

793
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: get the confusion that people might have.

794
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: But oh my gosh, okay, hear me out, hear me

795
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 2: on hurring out. Parents are bornking, but we are deeply

796
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: in love with each other. Toss a coin, get a

797
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 2: DNA tests, see if we're related. If we're not related,

798
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: are we still getting married?

799
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: If we're not related, getting married for sure. If we're

800
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: not related, yes, our parents can. But if we are related,

801
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: we didn't know. Okay, I think legally, I don't think

802
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: you can get married.

803
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: It just depends on the birth certific of getting not

804
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: the DNA test. They don't do DNA tests anymore. They

805
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: used to do DNA tests, Like in the South, they

806
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: did DNA tests all the time. You had to because

807
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: you didn't know.

808
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: Because it's just not safe too for kids.

809
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: That's why we have the title of the story.

810
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god. We haven't even gotten

811
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: to the title of the story yet. Holy crap. After

812
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: Amy told me all of this, I was dumbfounded, and

813
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: I don't think I spoke for ten plus minutes. What

814
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: could I say? There were questions, there were concerns, there

815
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: were facts, but I couldn't get anything organized enough in

816
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: my head to say anything. This made Amy upset with

817
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: me because she thought I was judging her. But when

818
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: I could find my words, I explained that I was

819
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: processing and trying to figure out where to start. My

820
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: questions went something like this, Okay, how are you feeling

821
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: about all this information? Mad at my parents? They've made

822
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: a mess of things, But I loved my childhood and

823
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't change the things, So I don't know. Are you

824
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: concerned that you are related? We were at first, but

825
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: we had been dating for a year when we found

826
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: this out, and ultimately it didn't change anything. We couldn't

827
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: unsleep with each other and we still love each other.

828
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: We may never know if we are related, so you're

829
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: not gonna find out if you're related? Nope. What if

830
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: you want to have kids, we will adopt. Okay. Sure

831
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: there were more questions, but those were the highlights. Oh wow, I.

832
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: Get why they wouldn't want to find out.

833
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'd probably just be terrified. I probably just don't

834
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: want to know. But but you gotta know, do you? Yes?

835
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: Do you? You gotta know? If you're pointing your brother question.

836
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: You can look in the future right now to see

837
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 2: if we get married.

838
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: Would you look if we get married or at our

839
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: DNA test? No?

840
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: No, no, if we got married, would you look in

841
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: the future to see if we got married or not?

842
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: Right now?

843
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: And you have the choice, No, you want to look,

844
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: I would not look. That's probably the same situation they're in.

845
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: I disagree, you disagree, really different situation if I'm going

846
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: to find out something about my future a huge part

847
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: of my future versus my my relation, my relations to people,

848
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: because then that But.

849
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 2: I feel like if they knew if they were related,

850
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: it would ruin it and they wouldn't get married.

851
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: And that's probably good. Maybe they shouldn't get married if

852
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: they're related, and that's what they're so close to each other,

853
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 1: and this is probably the best case scenario. I get there.

854
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: It's their parents' fault. It's going to be their fault too.

855
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: Their parents really screw them over. That sucks. Wow, that

856
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: they screw each other and then screw their kids over.

857
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm not defending incest.

858
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 2: No, I'm just playing Devil's advocate to look into the

859
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 2: minds of this couple, Okay, and.

860
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: I understand that you're doing that, and I need everyone

861
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 1: else to understand. And that's what he's.

862
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: Doing because first love, being first off of someone is

863
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: such a passionate feeling, and that's where they're at right now.

864
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: That is where they're at the.

865
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 2: And they have had this kind of love for each

866
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 2: other for a long time.

867
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: Well, I mean they've only been dating for a year

868
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: before finding this.

869
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: Out, but before that they were very close. I mean,

870
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: I guess you remember your elementary school crush. I remember

871
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 2: my elementary school crush. It took me to a high

872
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: school to get over her.

873
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that.

874
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: And they're still in contact with each other and they're

875
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: still in good vibes.

876
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: It's just a crush. It's not like love.

877
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: I thought it was my first love.

878
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: Well, that's very sweet. I didn't. Well, but yeah, that's

879
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: Riley's not defending incest as it's happening. No, I'm not

880
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: from Alabama. I'm from North Carolina. Guys. Now, if they

881
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 1: were second cousins, maybe No. When I told Clint, who

882
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: was to be the best man. He sat quiet for

883
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: a second and then looked at me with a straight

884
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: face and said, you know, I love them, but don't

885
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: you get any ideas I'm not sharing, like to be

886
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: like their parents. Yeah, you got it.

887
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: Oh my god, because like I would be freaking up

888
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: because Clint's like, that's how their relationship start.

889
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, and that one faithful poker night. Yeah, because

890
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: it could have went either way. Yeah, honestly it could have.

891
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 1: Clint could have been with Amy, And the only reason

892
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: Clint wasn't with like stayed away with Amy was because

893
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: of been, because because of Ben. Yeah, could have.

894
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 2: WINNI the way, and then one day you guys could

895
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: be in the same situation. God, I wouldn't hang out

896
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: late or not with him anymore. Oh, bit's eight pm.

897
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: We gotta go to sleep. Sing. It was the perfect

898
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: comic relief for a pretty heavy situation. Ultimately, Amy and

899
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: Ben got married. It was a beautiful wedding in the Caribbean. Andy, Amanda, Bob,

900
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: and Beth did not attend, and the relationship had been

901
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: strained for a long time. The relationship did get better

902
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: when Ben and Amy explained that they couldn't turn back

903
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: time to undo what had been done dating before knowing everything,

904
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: and explained that given the genetic concerns, if they decide

905
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: to have kids, they'll adopt. There wasn't really anything the

906
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: parents could do but accept this, as Ben and Amy

907
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: were adults and not kids. Admittedly, this entire situation was weird,

908
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: but there's no proof that they were related or not related,

909
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 1: so everyone just let life go on as it had

910
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: been before we knew anything.

911
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be for real with you. If this happened

912
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: to my friends and I was this close to them, yeah,

913
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be getting a little bit of blood a hare.

914
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm gonna find out the answer. Yeah,

915
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna figure this out. It's gotta happen. I can't

916
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: live with the unknown.

917
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: I don't think I could. It's only a year because

918
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just also a big voucher of like

919
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: you need to be together for a while before getting married. Anyway,

920
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: they knew each other though, Yeah, but like they knew

921
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: each other more than three years. I mean, I guess

922
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: that is true. They knew each other since they were children,

923
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: but like there but they've known each other since they

924
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: were eleven months apart because they were raised by the

925
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,479
Speaker 1: same four parents. This is a crazy story. Oh my god,

926
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: this is what of our own? May I remind you

927
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: my goodness. Ben and Amy have been happily married for years.

928
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: They live an hour or so away and we see

929
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: them often, but recently we've been getting a weird vibe

930
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: from them. Oh no. We invited them over for a

931
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: weekend several times, and they kept randomly canceling. Finally, I

932
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: wrote an email to Amy explaining that I missed her

933
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: and wanted to talk because I felt like something was

934
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: driving a wedge and I wanted to fix things, but

935
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: I couldn't if I didn't know what was going on.

936
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: She wrote back and asked if they could come the

937
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 1: next weekend, and we started planning. Ben and Amy came

938
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: and after dinner the first night, they let us know

939
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: that Ben's dad, Bob, was in kidney failure and was

940
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: looking for a donor. Long story short, neither Ben or

941
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: Amy were a match. Furthermore, they found out that Bob

942
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: is not related to either of them, making Ben and

943
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,479
Speaker 1: Amy's have siblings by Andy Amy's dad.

944
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: This it's confirmed, is hilarious.

945
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Hey, it's Johnny og, host of the show.

946
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to these juicy stories. But here's

947
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: a quick three minutes of ads from our sponsors.

948
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: Because they were avoiding it at any possible Yeah, any

949
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 2: possible way.

950
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: Yeah over Tom, Yeah he got their universe. Just just

951
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: gave him a situation. Dad, I can donate for you,

952
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: let me go.

953
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, not compatible?

954
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Amy hoping, Yeah, I can donate for you. Not compatible,

955
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: which is kind of funny because Amy would have I mean,

956
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: is that a thing that the donor has to be

957
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: like same related to same blood? Okay, okay, okay, and

958
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 1: you get your blood from your father.

959
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 2: Oh, your blood type from your father.

960
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: Got it? Yeah, So it's just kind of funny that

961
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: Amy would at least like just her having to see

962
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: if she could donate her kiddy would be an admission

963
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 1: that like, yeah, I might be your son or your daughter,

964
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: we might be related. Oh my god, Bob, you're oh

965
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: for two and you're not getting a kidney. Dang. That

966
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: must have been a sad day for Bob. There.

967
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: Ben's dad or so called dad because he didn't have

968
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: a kid. Neither of those were his kid and he

969
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 2: can't get a kidney.

970
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: Okay, but they would have Sorry, go ahead, neither of.

971
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 2: Them were his kid and he didn't have a kidney transplanter.

972
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, bad day for Bob. I need to really quick,

973
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: go back really quick because I need to see, like

974
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm thinking, if they have same mom, different dads,

975
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: how did they ever think that they're not related?

976
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 2: I missed that little because the perfect scenario is that

977
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: Ben's dad and Ben's mom had a kid together and

978
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: made Ben, and then Amy's parents were separate from that equation,

979
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 2: had a kid. So that's a perfect scenario. But whenever

980
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: you put you know, a couple will make it four huh,

981
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 2: there is that complication of like, oh that mom was

982
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: with this person you know.

983
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: So then but then if Amanda, who was Amy's mom,

984
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: and I guess also Ben's mom, if a man had

985
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: two kids, Ben was not raised by Amanda technically, and

986
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: they all kind of raised together, right.

987
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: So both women got pregnant. So those women, whenever they

988
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 2: had kids, stayed in that household.

989
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: So same dad, different moms, same dad. Yeah, just the

990
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: complicated relationships here.

991
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: Goodness gracious.

992
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: So has this affected their relationship not at all? Because

993
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 1: and I quote, we still love each other the same

994
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: as if we didn't know. I'm thinking it's about love. Guys.

995
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: We're in the denial stage right now.

996
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 1: Guys, Yeah, we really are, We really are. Then Amy

997
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: tells us that every time they come to visit, they

998
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: see us with our kids and it makes them want

999
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: their own family, and now with Bob being sick, they

1000
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: want kids before he's gone. I asked about adopting, and

1001
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: they explained that now that they know for sure that

1002
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 1: they are half siblings, their marriage is considered legally void,

1003
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 1: and that they don't think they'll be able to adopt

1004
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: if someone finds out. And they are even more worried

1005
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: that if they hide this info and are able to

1006
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: adopt a child and it comes out later that they

1007
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 1: are related, any children they have will be taken away.

1008
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: They did not think that whole adoption excuse through that

1009
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: was their reason, so leaves them with the only option

1010
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 1: to have kids with themselves. No, no, don't do that.

1011
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 2: I mean, you can always take a kid from the street,

1012
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 2: always running around. Just take the one where the parent

1013
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 2: isn't paying attention and just take that one.

1014
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1015
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: Sure, I know this sounds dark, but sometimes my dark

1016
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: feelings is like a kid will be like walking away

1017
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 2: from the parent. I'm like, I could take that kid

1018
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: right now.

1019
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: No, I get you. Parent wouldn't even know those thoughts

1020
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: that make you scared for when you are eventually a parent.

1021
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: It's like, my kid could just be snatched right up,

1022
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: just like that, Like oh there they go. Yeah, but

1023
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: don't do that. Oh my god, this is an insane story.

1024
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: I suggested getting a donor for IVF, and they were

1025
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: both concerned that with that option they'd have even more

1026
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: blood work and cause more problems. That's when Amy the

1027
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 1: bomb that they are thinking about trying for a child

1028
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: the traditional way. Apparently I didn't need to say anything

1029
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: because my face said it all. Amy got defensive, saying,

1030
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: how dare I judge? Her Ben pointed out that I

1031
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: hadn't said anything. I then did say what the under

1032
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 1: my breath and Clint started laughing. The room became complete chaos.

1033
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 1: Amy said that I don't understand because I'm an effing

1034
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: baby factory, and then asked if I'd be seen barefoot

1035
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: making breakfast tomorrow. Yikes. You know some people are against

1036
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: a treadwife thing.

1037
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: Some people aren't.

1038
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: It's just like because i'd throw in here though, you

1039
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: know what I mean? It just shows how jealous she is.

1040
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: She wants to be a tadmark. You don't understand, right,

1041
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 1: You don't understand because you are a baby factory. Calling

1042
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: anyone a baby factory is crazy because op has had

1043
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: four kids. And then barefoot making breakfast. Oh my god,

1044
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: that goes like those girls on Instagram, just walking her

1045
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: out of barefoot Because you're in the house making breakfast kidnapping.

1046
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 2: You can change it up and make it kid adoptingk adopting.

1047
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think that's how it works.

1048
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 2: I don't know you can make it new. I mean,

1049
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 2: you guys are trying new things right now, so two

1050
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 2: new things or.

1051
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: Not new enough?

1052
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 2: Too many new things.

1053
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: I pointed out that if I was, it would be

1054
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: for my children whose parents don't share DNA. Ben said, hey, now,

1055
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: let's not say things we don't really mean. Emotions are

1056
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: clearly running high, and then Clint laughed more and said

1057
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: it was hormones that are making me like this, and

1058
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: how he wished it was just emotions. And then he asked, Amy,

1059
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: are you sure you want to do this to yourself?

1060
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: Look at her, She's a mess. I repeated this, saying

1061
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm a mess? Are you kidding me? I didn't do

1062
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: this to myself. At that point, Clint winked at me

1063
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: and said he wouldn't have me any other way and

1064
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 1: kissed me. He's the kind of guy that would rather

1065
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 1: kind a joke during a tent situation instead of have

1066
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: a serious talk. And honestly, I do love him for this. Okay,

1067
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: So that was all lighthearted and.

1068
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 2: Fat Okay, good good.

1069
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: Then Amy started crying, telling me, I don't know how

1070
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: lucky I am. I tried pointing out that I do

1071
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: know how lucky I am, but that having kids comes

1072
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: with a lot of stress, and I worry every time

1073
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: they get sick or hurt. It's stressful and you wish

1074
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: you could take all of their problems on yourself so

1075
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: they don't have to go through pain or struggles. I

1076
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: then told her, between sobs that if they had kids,

1077
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 1: they could be opening up their kids to all kinds

1078
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 1: of health and developmental or mental problems. I tried pointing

1079
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 1: out that some of these issues are things that could

1080
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: end up taking over their lives or worse, give their

1081
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,479
Speaker 1: kids no real life at all. Amy said she would

1082
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: love her child no matter what their problem could be.

1083
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: Then claimed that I was trying to be cruel and

1084
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: rub our happy life in her face. That's kind of

1085
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: a crazy thing to say. Opie is bringing up preventative

1086
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: that could happen to your kids, and not in the

1087
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: kind of sense of like, oh, this is gonna be

1088
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: something that you're gonna have to deal with. You're gonna

1089
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: have to deal with a child that has all these

1090
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: lifelong issues. No, no, no, no, no. She's bringing that

1091
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: up as like, your child's gonna have these issues. Don't

1092
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: you not want that for your child? But Amy is

1093
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: just like, well, I would love my child either way,

1094
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: whatever issues they have. It's like, yeah, but don't you

1095
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: not want them to have these issues that are completely

1096
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: preventable by you not blinking your brother? Come on?

1097
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 2: Okay, so founder Loophole, I did a little Google search.

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00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 2: When adopting, do the adoptive parents have to have their

1099
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 2: blood test checked or their lineage checked see if they're related. No,

1100
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: adoptive parents generally don't need mandatory blood tests or lineage

1101
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 2: checks as a part of the standard adoption process. Then

1102
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: to go health screenings physical background checks for suitability.

1103
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 1: While DNA tests.

1104
00:52:55,120 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 2: Are usually for adult adoptees seeking biological links, so he

1105
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 2: the person that's probably gonna get, you know, blood tested,

1106
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: would be the adopted kid. Yeah, so I would lean

1107
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 2: more on them adopting and being like, they probably won't

1108
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: find out if you guys really want to have kids,

1109
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,919
Speaker 2: because it's unfair for them, totally unfair forbidden Amy.

1110
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: I don't think they should have went through with it.

1111
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: There's still other people in the world. Yeah, they've just

1112
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: done absolutely no research. They stayed together and decided to

1113
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: get married because they're like, ah, will adopt, and then

1114
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: after they were looking into it, they were like, oh wait,

1115
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: maybe we can't adopt because of this new information. But

1116
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: they didn't even bother a look. Apparently they were in love.

1117
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 2: They were in love. Love, you know, overcame everything there.

1118
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: Nothing should have come anywhere in this story. I told

1119
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 1: her I wasn't trying to do anything of the sort,

1120
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: and that if she wanted a family, she should have

1121
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,439
Speaker 1: gotten all the info before getting married, so she knew

1122
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: what she was getting herself into. Amy then accused me

1123
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: of only saying that because I was secretly hoping she

1124
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: couldn't marry, but because I'd always wanted him for myself

1125
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: ever since I dated Ben in college. Ben and Glint

1126
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: both started laughing because the entire idea was just ridiculous.

1127
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: Ben is like my brother, fake brother, and I'm deeply

1128
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: in love with my husband. Thanks for clarifying fake brother

1129
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,959
Speaker 1: and or like your actual brother.

1130
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 2: Does it seem to stop some people?

1131
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: I guess not. There is a little bit more to

1132
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: this story, but man, oh my god, this is has

1133
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: the most twists and turns I've ever encountered.

1134
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: I just can't believe I call it that. And that

1135
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: is the third story.

1136
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: I can't believe you called that either.

1137
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: In my whole this is top three right here, Okay, honestly, yeah,

1138
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 2: number maybe number two.

1139
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: Number one was the Chinese Dragon one. Oh yeah.

1140
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: There was a story where these parents didn't like the

1141
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 2: oldest kid and they like their second oldest kid and

1142
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: they just like disown the oldest kid. Oh what, And

1143
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: they said that they were a from China, I think,

1144
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, it's because that second kid

1145
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 2: was to hear the dragon, oh the dragon.

1146
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: And then that happened to be true. But then I

1147
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: called this one this is the second best take up

1148
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 1: over head. Oh my god, that's crazy. After the laughing

1149
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: had subsided, Ben thankfully said there was a lot to

1150
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: think about and unpack, and the best person for them

1151
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: to talk to you was a doctor, and not to

1152
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: unload on each other. Then he said it perhaps it

1153
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: was best if everyone went to bed. Amy said she

1154
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: wanted to go home, and after a lot of back

1155
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: and forth between her and Ben about staying and calmly

1156
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 1: talking tomorrow versus going home and letting this all fester,

1157
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: Amy said she wouldn't stay, even if it meant that

1158
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: she walked home. Ben said sorry and took her home,

1159
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: texting to let us know that they were home safe

1160
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: and Amy was still worked up, but they'd calm when

1161
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: things calmed down. That was Friday night. It's now Sunday

1162
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: and we haven't heard from her, although Ben and Clint

1163
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: are talking like nothing's happened. I've sat down to write

1164
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: several emails, but I just can't get myself to say

1165
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: that I support this option. Am I the able for

1166
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: not being more supportive than that? Stand as story? I'm

1167
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: gonna say no, because it's not even that you were like,

1168
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: oh my god, you guys are disgusting. How could you

1169
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: do this? Like you were generally supportive of their relationship,

1170
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: just in general, because that's already weird in my opinion.

1171
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: But when it comes to the baby make and stuff,

1172
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: you brought up genuine concerns. These these are real concerns

1173
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: that everyone should consider if they're considering having a baby

1174
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: with their sibling half or not. I think your reaction

1175
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 1: is so valid, and it is okay for your reaction

1176
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 1: to be shown as much as it was. That's a lot.

1177
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: I think she's having such a defensive reaction because she

1178
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: knows how outlandish this is, and she knows the obvious

1179
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: like social I don't even know what to call it, taboos. No,

1180
00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 1: she knows the general social opinions against marrying and having

1181
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: babies with your siblings. Any comments over there.

1182
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: I'm just blown away that this actually happened.

1183
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is one of our own and living it

1184
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: would be horrible.

1185
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 2: But also seeing your friend go through this close friend,

1186
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 2: I don't know which one's worse. I mean, okay, actually

1187
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 2: living through it is the worst option.

1188
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: I think the reason like the Yeah, living through it

1189
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: is definitely the worst option, but hopefully would go differently

1190
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: if we were living through this. But like, I think

1191
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: the one year thing is really getting me because it's yes,

1192
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: you've known each other for that long. But like just

1193
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: a year of dating is not that hard to come

1194
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: out of, Like you can still break up and be okay,

1195
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

1196
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 2: And I disagree with you here because this is completely different.

1197
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 2: If I ask you to marry me after a year,

1198
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: uh huh, getting out of that completely fair. But if

1199
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 2: I've known you my whole life and I've had secretly

1200
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 2: feelings for you and You've had secretly feelings for me,

1201
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: and then we date and that's the best year of

1202
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 2: our lives together, that's a little harder to come back from.

1203
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 2: They had a lot of time meant together, and now

1204
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 2: they're siblings.

1205
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: I don't like this thought experiment. Well, maybe then you

1206
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: just then you stop dating and you continue your sibling

1207
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: relationship because your siblings you grow up after you already pointed,

1208
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: after you're already boriningked it, Well, what else can you do?

1209
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: You don't just keep boinking. That's their issue here is

1210
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: they're like, well, we already boinked. It's like a lactose

1211
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: intolerant person saying, oh, I already had one scoop of

1212
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: ice cream, might as well have seventeen more. I'm sure

1213
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: I won't have diarrhea the next day or at least.

1214
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: But they're bound to have diarrhea, so I might as

1215
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:30,959
Speaker 1: well make it worse.

1216
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 2: They have no consequences, though. The only consequences would be

1217
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 2: if they had kids, and op is.

1218
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: Saying it's gonna have kids, but they're gonna do adopt.

1219
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: I think this loophole is fun. I mean, they do it.

1220
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: It seems like they technically could adopt, but it's just like, guys,

1221
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: does that really not freak you out at all? Really

1222
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: not freak you out at all?

1223
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 2: Like for them, if this was my friend and I

1224
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 2: couldn't do anything for them to get divorced or like whatever, Yeah,

1225
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: I would say, look into adopting.

1226
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna go online and look this up right now.

1227
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 2: Okay, what is the possibility of them Actually, you know

1228
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 2: how much of your life you have to explain to

1229
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 2: them for the adoption agency to figure that out?

1230
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: True?

1231
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 2: They'd have to know them this closely. Yeah, and we're

1232
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 2: getting this from a best friend.

1233
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: That's true. I would just adopt, just the guys. Would

1234
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: you say, adopt? You can't.

1235
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 2: You can't change them being married or getting divorced. They're

1236
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: not gonna happen. How would you explain this, Yeah, you'd

1237
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 2: have to.

1238
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: I guess push adoption. You have to.

1239
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 2: That's the children, for the children, But the children, it's

1240
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: a win win scenario that the kids get adopted and

1241
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 2: they're not gonna grow up with an extra fingers.

1242
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: Now, the question if you're gonna love them or not

1243
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: if they have some sort of disability because they're a

1244
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: product of incest, it's not about your love for them,

1245
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: it's about them being a product of incests.

1246
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 2: You're gonna make their lives a million times harder if

1247
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: you have kids the good old natural way, just adopt.

1248
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 2: Their lives are gonna be hard, but you're in a

1249
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 2: tough situation and you have to take responsibility.

1250
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: That sadly Okay. Also, this is the end of that

1251
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 1: story and the end of that episode. But my final

1252
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: thing I will say is that this story was sent

1253
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: in a year ago. It looks like so if you're

1254
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: watching this, I'm gonna need an update, please, I'm gonna

1255
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: need an update stacked right now. Is there a kid

1256
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: out there? Is there a kid? Is there a pregnant

1257
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: woman that is one of these people or are they adopting?

1258
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: Is there a pregnant woman that they're going to adopt

1259
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: the child from.

1260
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 2: Their logic of we already blinked, we can't change tome.

1261
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: That's crazy because then you're still blinking. Before you were

1262
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: just two people, boykn now your brothers and sister's Boykin.

1263
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: Before you were brothers and sisters bokn on accident, but

1264
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: you didn't know. Now you do know. So now you're

1265
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: consciously brothers and sisters. Boykin.

1266
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 2: That's just not fair for them.

1267
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: I get it.

1268
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 2: That's just not fair for them. I'm so sorry. Yeah, Amy, then.

1269
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: I will agree with that. I am sorry that you

1270
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: guys are brothers and sisters. That really sucks. That the

1271
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: love of your life is related to you. That does suck.

1272
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: But that's the end of that story and the end

1273
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: of this episode. So if you love us, make sure

1274
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: to subscribe. We love you and see you tomorrow.