WEBVTT - Just Add Hot Sauce with Alex Hill

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<v Speaker 1>The most dreaded question to other every mother in America, Mom,

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<v Speaker 1>what's for dinner?

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<v Speaker 2>Half the time I don't even be knowing and not

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<v Speaker 2>neat ideas well, okay, have no fear, just had hot

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<v Speaker 2>sauces here.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that for me because she has all the

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<v Speaker 3>tips and tricks. Dead ass, y'all. Hey, I'm Kadeen and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Devout and we're the Ellis's.

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<v Speaker 4>You may know us from posting funny videos with our

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<v Speaker 4>voice and reading.

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<v Speaker 3>Each other publicly as.

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<v Speaker 2>A form of therpy. Wait, I'll make you need therby

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<v Speaker 2>most days. Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, and one more important thing to mention, we're married.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, sir, we are. We created this podcast to open

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<v Speaker 4>dialogue about some of Li's most taboo topics.

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<v Speaker 2>Things most folks don't want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>Through the lens of a millennial married couple. Dead ass

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<v Speaker 4>is a term that we say every day. So when

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<v Speaker 4>we say dead ass, we're actually saying facts one hundred,

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<v Speaker 4>the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>We thought to take Bilotov to a whole new level.

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<v Speaker 3>Dead ass starts right now.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, story time, So I'm going to take you

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<v Speaker 1>back to a few thanks given to go. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say a few. It's probably like twelve at this point, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been with my husband for twenty two years, married fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is around like the twelve year Markkay had

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<v Speaker 1>been in his family for a long time, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>food is the way to the man's heart, among other things.

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<v Speaker 2>But food was definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>Up there for my husband.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's from a Southern American background, and there were

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<v Speaker 1>certain things that I just had to learn how to

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<v Speaker 1>make because his mom made it, or his aunt made it,

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<v Speaker 1>or his grandmother or grandfather, somebody made it in the

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<v Speaker 1>family and they made it to a.

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<v Speaker 3>Level of excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>See that I had so much pressure around trying to

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<v Speaker 1>match that, right, So I kind of sat in the

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<v Speaker 1>wing for a couple of years. If they ever wanted

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<v Speaker 1>any Caribbean food, I'm your girl, right, sign me up.

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<v Speaker 1>If I wasn't making it, I'd have my mom or

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<v Speaker 1>dad or grandma somebody make it for them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but there was an intimidation factor that I felt.

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<v Speaker 3>Southern food is very intimidating because it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is one of those things that you just have to

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<v Speaker 1>get right, Like you will get your black card revoked,

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<v Speaker 1>you will get uninvited to the barbecue. If these dishes

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<v Speaker 1>don't slap. So let me tell you about my moment now, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all was it a good or bad moment?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's see.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, So about twelve years ago, it's Thanksgiving time, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Devo's aunt Monique is always in charge of the sweet

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<v Speaker 1>potato castrole. Okay, that's the thing. So candied jams people

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<v Speaker 1>again make it different ways. She makes it into kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a castrole soul situations.

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<v Speaker 3>Fine, yeah, okay, see, I make mine very good.

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<v Speaker 1>So she had told me over the years, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just always had it, and she would just

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<v Speaker 1>tell me, oh, you just you know, you just put

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of this of that.

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<v Speaker 3>There's never really like an actual recipe to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said to her, I said, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>like develop some sort of recipe because.

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<v Speaker 3>This is like restaurant worthy. Yeah, cast role, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>need to have this.

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<v Speaker 1>So one day she had me do a whole little

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<v Speaker 1>like lesson with her while she made some and then

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<v Speaker 1>I said to her, I'm going to try to.

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<v Speaker 3>Do this on my own.

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<v Speaker 1>This one particular Thanksgiving, Aunt Monique was not in town, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and I kind of threw my hat in the ring

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<v Speaker 1>as the menu was being assembled in the group chat

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, I'll do this sweet potato casserole Aunt

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<v Speaker 1>moniques monique supertado castroll right, And when she gave me

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<v Speaker 1>the lesson, I didn't write everything down, but I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of have like a general idea because that's typically how

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<v Speaker 1>we cook. We could vibes the ancestors are telling them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what they're telling us what to do. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's baking us another story like science. But I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give it a try. So you can

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<v Speaker 1>imagine my pressure to live up to her sweet potato

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<v Speaker 1>cast terrified of course, and then knowing that it's Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 1>at that because you know, the bite, Like the bite

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<v Speaker 1>is the sweet potato cast role, the the mag and cheese,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the situation, the sweet and savory, right, So you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want your portion of that bite to fall flat. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I make the sweet potato casserole, you know, diligent

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<v Speaker 1>in the kitchen. We get the kids dressed and we

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<v Speaker 1>head over to At that time, it's just Jackson head

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<v Speaker 1>over to Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I grew at my in law's house and everything is

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<v Speaker 1>set up. Apparently my father in law he didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>who was making what. He was like, I'm just here

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<v Speaker 1>for a good time. I'm here for my plate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So I quietly sat around as everyone made their plates

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. So he in particular is like

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<v Speaker 1>the connoisseur of like food tasting. He just won't tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>like down to a science, what's.

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<v Speaker 2>In certain dishes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I see him eating, and I see him go

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<v Speaker 1>for this week potata casserole, and he kind of like hmm,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then he's making your nerves or like yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, because my father, like my father in

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<v Speaker 1>law might disown me at this time. And I see

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<v Speaker 1>him going and he's like hmm. And then he looks

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<v Speaker 1>up and he says, did Monique make this before she left?

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<v Speaker 2>And I said no, I made it. He said, baby,

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<v Speaker 2>you made that.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was gonna be bad. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>that he feels so good. Baby. I said, yes, I

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<v Speaker 3>made this.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, you sure Monique didn't make this before she

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<v Speaker 1>left to go away to wherever she went.

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<v Speaker 2>I said no.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, well, it is pretty much her recipees. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't write it down, but I kind of just went

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<v Speaker 1>off of the vibes. And he was like, well done,

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<v Speaker 1>well well done, young grasshopper.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. O excite.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that because listen, that could have completely ruined Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I was able to live to see another day.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanksgivings A it's a very I would not. I took

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<v Speaker 2>on Thanksgiving a couple of years ago from my mom.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's an intimidating holiday. It really is in the

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<v Speaker 2>black household, especially Hispanic caribbee all like, it's holds no bars,

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<v Speaker 2>it told no literally, it's especially the mac and cheese.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's certain dishes that Yeah, it's just what it is. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was my cooking story about the time I

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<v Speaker 1>made sweet potato cash role for Thanksgiving from my in

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<v Speaker 1>laws and everybody enjoyed the end.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was gonna be bad because I have

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<v Speaker 2>a bad one. Also save that I haven't okay say

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<v Speaker 2>that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Save that one.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back to story time.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, now, you know this would not be an

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<v Speaker 1>episode without karaoke time. So my guests today, Okay, what

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<v Speaker 1>are we feeling for karaoke?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey? This is my go to karaoke song.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, to have to carry let's do it touch

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<v Speaker 2>my body? Okay ahead, go ahead, start us off, Start us off,

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<v Speaker 2>Touch my body, throw me on the floor.

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<v Speaker 3>He browny me some more.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how, sometimes you don't realize what the words

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<v Speaker 1>are until you actually break it.

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<v Speaker 3>Down during karaoke.

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<v Speaker 1>During karaoke, Yeah, you dirty, dirty, Touch my body, Rustle

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<v Speaker 1>me to the floor, Wrestle me to the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>No wait, touch my body, throw me on the floor,

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<v Speaker 2>wrestle me around.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, play with me some more.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, touch my body, my hair or something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, something everywhere? Yeah, whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's giving after a nice meal and a full belly,

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<v Speaker 1>touch my body, touch my body, baby, that's giving all

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<v Speaker 1>the vibes. But let's go ahead and pay some bills

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<v Speaker 1>real quick. Yes, and we will come back and we

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<v Speaker 1>will dive into the meat of the show with my

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<v Speaker 1>very special guest today. I'll introduce her when we get back.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned, all right. Today, I have with me someone

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<v Speaker 1>who I've really been following for a while and not

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<v Speaker 1>only admire her in her profession, but something about your

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<v Speaker 1>personality and her energy is that you can feel it

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<v Speaker 1>through the phone. And I'm like, there has to be

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<v Speaker 1>synergies here that align. And once we came out here

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<v Speaker 1>to the West Side, for since LA episodes. She was

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<v Speaker 1>at the very top of my list, and I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>happy to introduce to you all today.

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<v Speaker 3>If you have not found out about her yet, you've

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<v Speaker 3>been under a rock.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex sale is.

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<v Speaker 1>A culinary genius, chef and host of the cooking show

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<v Speaker 1>Spice Spice Baby on Taste Made. Alex is passionate about

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<v Speaker 1>bringing people together through food. The dishes she shares on

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<v Speaker 1>her blog just add Hot Sauce are easy, yet innovative

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<v Speaker 1>and can be enjoyed by the aspiring show chef or

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<v Speaker 1>someone just getting their feet wet in the kitchen, or

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<v Speaker 1>a mom who is looking to answer the question what

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<v Speaker 1>for dinner?

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<v Speaker 3>The intro, Wow, Welcome to the show, Alex.

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<v Speaker 1>This so one thing we're about here on Dead as

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<v Speaker 1>Podcasts and particularly on a day with Kate, is giving

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<v Speaker 1>people their flowers while they're here to smell and to

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<v Speaker 1>hold and to enjoy. So thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>joining me here today, Thank you for thinking of me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm excited to be here. Absolutely, you made that

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<v Speaker 1>so easy. So I've been following this uh just at

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<v Speaker 1>Hot Sauce, you know, girl, for a minute now, and

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<v Speaker 1>not only do I drool every time you post a

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<v Speaker 1>video with food, just watching your Instagram stories, even just

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<v Speaker 1>the way you interact with your friends, like you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell a lot about someone and you can see that

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<v Speaker 1>you're genuinely loved by the people who support you, by

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<v Speaker 1>your friends, by your family. And I really believe that

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<v Speaker 1>the energy that you put out is the energy you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get back. So you're like a walking testimony

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<v Speaker 1>of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Very I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I love that. Thank you very much, and I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it. You're so welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>So go back to Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you said you had a bad story, because mine

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<v Speaker 1>was one of those things where baby, you could have

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<v Speaker 1>put a sash and a crown on my head.

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<v Speaker 2>So mine wasn't Thanksgiving, okay, but because it was a

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<v Speaker 2>black Southern household, it was in college. Ooh, and it

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<v Speaker 2>reminded me of my fried chicken story because to this

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<v Speaker 2>day I hate frying chicken because of that time.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, So I had a boyfriend at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like I think twenty or something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was still cooking, but obviously like I'm in college,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm not like perfecting like what I love right right,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, ooh, I'm going to make like

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<v Speaker 2>a soulful Sunday's like meal.

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<v Speaker 1>This was before hashtags, right before before hashtags.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, invite your friends. So it was

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<v Speaker 2>him and his two best friends, okay, and then my

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<v Speaker 2>best friends. I was like, I'm going to make fried chicken.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do like sweet potatoes because my mom gave

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<v Speaker 2>me a sweet potato cashle that I've been using for years,

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<v Speaker 2>mac and cheese. She gave me her recipe. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was frying the chicken and you know, like you're supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to fry chicken that is at roomtown temperature. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>did not do that, and so I was just like

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<v Speaker 2>battering that. I was like, oh, this is gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>so good. And I fried the chicken and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's done, took it out the oil and he bit

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<v Speaker 2>into it and it was raw no, yes, And I

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<v Speaker 2>like I almost started crying and I would have. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I cannot believe that just his friends were like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is raw chicken.

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<v Speaker 1>There's probably nothing worse to bite into than raw, raw chicken.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's so dangerous it is. Yeah, it's giving old salmonilla. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>To this day, I like I have my meat thermometer,

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<v Speaker 2>because I just remember the twenty year old Alex that

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<v Speaker 2>undercooked chicken.

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<v Speaker 3>That undercooked chicken.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And is he still around.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he's married with kids now, yeah, God, because why

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<v Speaker 1>his wife fries chicken?

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<v Speaker 2>He does. No, I'm joking, okay, but I will never

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<v Speaker 2>forget that day. No, I hear you. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we've all had those moments too. We had

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<v Speaker 3>flops in the kitchen as well. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the time my mom made like hamburger helper.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, it's something different, and we're like, just give

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<v Speaker 1>us the curry chicken.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>We never said we were tired of it. We never

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<v Speaker 3>said we were.

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<v Speaker 2>Tired of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you said twenty year old Alex at the time

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<v Speaker 1>was just kind of still getting her feet wet in

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<v Speaker 1>the cooking space.

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<v Speaker 3>So where did this all start for you?

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<v Speaker 1>I know you said you started cooking at eleven, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but at what point did you say.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm actually pretty good at this and I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was so I wanted to go to culinary

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<v Speaker 2>school outside of high school, and my mom, being a

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<v Speaker 2>Puerto Rican mother from Brooklyn, she was like absolutely fucking

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<v Speaker 2>not exactly because she let me cook when I was

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<v Speaker 2>younger every weekend, and she was like, I think you

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<v Speaker 2>really like cooking.

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<v Speaker 3>Like she just poured into me. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>she knew what she was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Back then, but now, like my whole career is a

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<v Speaker 2>love letter to her. And so I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I want to go to culinary school and she

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<v Speaker 2>was like no.

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<v Speaker 3>So I went to Hampton. Best decision in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>HBCU down like loving, but cooking kept following me, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I think I really want to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>I majored in PR and marketing, and when I went

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<v Speaker 2>to New York, I kept going to culinary school open houses,

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<v Speaker 2>and every time I got to like the end when

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<v Speaker 2>they impressed you with like the school and everything, They're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>forty thousand dollars And I was like, I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>that again. I just paid for Hampton, Like I'm already

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<v Speaker 2>in student loan debt, but I sure do something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That wasn't that promised to me?

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<v Speaker 3>No, Like I come on before you go, yeah you go.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like my mom was like, Okay, if

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<v Speaker 2>this is what you really want to do, let's figure

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<v Speaker 2>it out. And so I was like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to ask you for money you just paid for for school.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, I can't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just kept teaching myself Magazine's YouTube university all

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<v Speaker 2>of that, and because like I loved cooking so much,

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<v Speaker 2>I started my food blog in twenty seventeen, just as

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<v Speaker 2>like an outlet to be like, okay, like I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to put myself out there, okay. And then it

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<v Speaker 2>was actually like I knew I enjoyed cooking. I knew

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<v Speaker 2>I was good at it because I would always cook

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<v Speaker 2>for my friends. But I was at a cooking class

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<v Speaker 2>because I just wanted to take cooking class for fun,

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<v Speaker 2>and the.

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<v Speaker 3>Girl was like do you cook or something?

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<v Speaker 2>Because like she kept asking, like the instructor kept asking questions.

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<v Speaker 2>I would answer, and so one of the girls like

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<v Speaker 2>do you cook or something like like what is it?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like no, I just like really enjoyed cooking.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went home to my boyfriend at the time

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I think I want to do

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<v Speaker 2>like a cooking class. And that was in twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though you know that you have a god given talent,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're just like, I don't know, like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot of times we question it. Yeah, impostor syndrome.

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<v Speaker 2>And pastor syndrome for sure, and the and in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty is when I started my cooking class. And then

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<v Speaker 2>that's when everything took off for me. I really in

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<v Speaker 2>me and I started my food blog in twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>Imposter syrnderm stopped me a lot, and I was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, like you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's interesting. Twenty seventeen, fast forward to twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>It's when you start your cooking class. Yeah, And this

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<v Speaker 1>is just twenty twenty four, and I feel like you've

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<v Speaker 1>made so many strides since then. But I guess that's

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<v Speaker 1>a testament to following what you feel in your heart

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<v Speaker 1>is your God given talent or passion. Yeah, because some

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<v Speaker 1>people think they could cook chat and they can't, right right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they literally can't. Yeah no, and some people really

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<v Speaker 1>just can't just can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Oh, people don't enjoy it and I enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you fearful that being in a space like this

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<v Speaker 1>where you're cooking now as a profession, that you'll lose

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<v Speaker 1>that love for it?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I've heard that's a possibility for people like I.

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<v Speaker 2>Enjoy it so much because I was really shy when

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<v Speaker 2>I was younger, and so cooking for me was like

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<v Speaker 2>and people don't belie I was shy.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, yes, I was actually very shy.

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<v Speaker 2>So cooking for me was just like an outlet that

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<v Speaker 2>like I could be myself. I can just cook because

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<v Speaker 2>like my first dish was vanilla lime fly and my

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<v Speaker 2>mom was like, why do you want to cook that?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't know. I just watched Emery Lagasi,

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<v Speaker 2>like I just want to cook this. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>think for me, it's such like a self care process

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<v Speaker 2>of cooking and seeing something from start to finish that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want everyone to burn out from it. But

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<v Speaker 2>now it's what I do and I still enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's why I have other hobbies.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, of course you gotta stay balanced.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever aspire to get into the space of

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<v Speaker 1>maybe having your own restaurant or being in a restaurant?

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason I asked was because I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>a known fact that the culinary industry, much like many

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<v Speaker 1>are male dominant.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, most of the white male dominant.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye.

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<v Speaker 3>And you being a black.

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<v Speaker 1>And Latino woman, how do you see yourself in that

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<v Speaker 1>space or do you even see yourself in that space.

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<v Speaker 3>So I oh my god, I just got chills.

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<v Speaker 2>I think because I'm finding like saying outlaw, like, do

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<v Speaker 2>want to own something very small? Okay, like a coffee shop, cafe?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh, like geared towards like my Puerto Rican side.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so living like sandwiches, babe, sandwich Like I can

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<v Speaker 1>see that for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like something just very cozy and like, yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 2>really been thinking a lot about it, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I want to do. Uh huh, terrify.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think we all are when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to something new. Yeah, have you experienced though, any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, issues within the culinary industry that you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like may impede that process just from like the

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<v Speaker 1>position of being like again, Afro Latina woman, I think

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to funding, just because like I think

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<v Speaker 1>as black women in general or black people in general,

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<v Speaker 1>like the funding. When it comes to money, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't always get that chance. So I think what's

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<v Speaker 1>stopping me is fear being like, Okay, well what I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do it, but what's the next step?

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<v Speaker 3>And that's money? So it's like what do I do?

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like I don't come from a money family,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I don't want to ask my parents.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like, what that next step of funding is

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<v Speaker 2>terrifying me?

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<v Speaker 3>Gotcha, how do you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I can totally understand, you know, and that being

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<v Speaker 1>probably a long term goal for you, Yeah, which is

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<v Speaker 1>of course me just shooting ahead because I can see

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<v Speaker 1>the potential in something like that. But in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 1>you're taking the necessary steps I think in the areas

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<v Speaker 1>that I feel like you have been thriving. So you

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<v Speaker 1>have your blog, you have of course, your your social

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<v Speaker 1>media persona yeah, and then you have spice spic.

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<v Speaker 3>Baby baby it's made.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me about that. How did that come to be?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's essentially like a cooking show? Yeah, your own

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<v Speaker 1>cooking show, cooking show? What was that process?

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<v Speaker 2>Like? Who found you? And how did I go from

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<v Speaker 2>start to finish? So it was twenty twenty two. I've

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<v Speaker 2>always said I wanted a cooking show like that has

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<v Speaker 2>been my dream since I was younger. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>manifest you pray, you write it down. But it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think people get bogged down and like doing the work,

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<v Speaker 2>you still just gotta you have.

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<v Speaker 3>To do the work. There's just nowhere around it. There's

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<v Speaker 3>no way, there's no.

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<v Speaker 2>Way, and so I was like, I think I want

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<v Speaker 2>to move to long form. So I started a YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>series in twenty twenty top of twenty twenty two called

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<v Speaker 2>Hot Sauce at Home and it's just me cooking and

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<v Speaker 2>I cooked like some of my top recipes from the blog,

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<v Speaker 2>and someone from Taste Made saw that, and that's when

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<v Speaker 2>I think Oprah has a quote of like, just do

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<v Speaker 2>it for you. You never know who's watching. And so someone

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<v Speaker 2>from Taste Made DMed me and they're like, hey, we'd

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<v Speaker 2>love to set up a call. I was like fine, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like whatever, yeah, let's see where it goes. So they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>we love your personality, we love your cooking style, like

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<v Speaker 2>let's keep in contact. And so I'm thinking like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do like a social media post for them whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was probably like June twenty twenty two, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, like I'm moving to LA.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like, oh, that's great. Da da da da. September

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<v Speaker 3>I moved to.

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<v Speaker 2>La twenty twenty two and I go to a Taste

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<v Speaker 2>Made event. I was like, Alex, just go you never know,

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<v Speaker 2>Like they're a streaming platform. You want a cooking show

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<v Speaker 2>one day, you never know. So I just went by

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<v Speaker 2>myself and I was like, hi, Dida da And so

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<v Speaker 2>the talent girl was like do you live here now?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like I do and she was like huh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know when you start to see people's wheels turning right,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like okay, and she was like okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm always pitching you, but I'm glad

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<v Speaker 2>I know that you live here. That was September twenty two,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two. March twenty twenty three. I get an

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<v Speaker 2>email that's it and granted I'm still on the internet cooking,

0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:41.520
<v Speaker 2>minding your own business literally literally, and so I get

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<v Speaker 2>an email that says show concept and I go, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>So she like, let's go on the phone. So she

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I pitched you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I have something. And I was like, again, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>no big thing, no big deal. She was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>got on the phone with like a development manager. She

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<v Speaker 2>was like, let's talk your cooking style, all these things. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like okay. So then my best friend's wedding in May,

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<v Speaker 2>it was sin good to my weekend and I got

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<v Speaker 2>the email that shit said like it's happening, and I

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<v Speaker 2>again and.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, holy shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my god, a cooking show. And

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<v Speaker 2>then at first it was named something else and then

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<v Speaker 2>they said they sent it to me. They're like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be spice spice baby, wow, like my instagram and

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<v Speaker 2>just like my personality and so.

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<v Speaker 1>And it made Yeah, totally makes sense now that I

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<v Speaker 1>think about a spice spies babe just at hot sauce.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's funny. I forget who it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Recently had done a instagram like a little skit. It

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<v Speaker 1>was keV on stage and his wife Melissa, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was something where she made she made dinner and he

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<v Speaker 1>instantly went and grabbed the hot sauce send and like

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<v Speaker 1>threw it on the plane and she was so offended.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and is.

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<v Speaker 1>That a thing where people feel like if someone adds

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<v Speaker 1>hot sauce to my food, then it means that the

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<v Speaker 1>food is like bland or because I person still like

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<v Speaker 1>hot sauce on certain things. Same like Caribbean background. We

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<v Speaker 1>cooked with spices all the time. It's not Scotch bonnet pepper.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's not crushed pepper, it's want to be some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of hot sauce just because I like the added flavor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but do you think people take offence when you when

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<v Speaker 1>hot sauce.

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<v Speaker 2>Is added to don't? But I could see why, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>cause like and usually like my crab pasta, I will

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<v Speaker 2>red pepper flakes.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that that would have been good too. We made

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<v Speaker 1>some We made some pasta just so you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>little little.

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<v Speaker 2>Would have been cute for a low cake low kick.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was like, let me just leave it out

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<v Speaker 2>this time. But I don't get offended. I like spice, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but like I could see how people and certain things.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need hot sauce on everything, right, And I

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<v Speaker 2>think people think they're like, like, no, I don't eat

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<v Speaker 2>everything spicy, you know, right, No, where'd the name come from?

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<v Speaker 2>Just that hot sauce.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just such a catchy name when you use those

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<v Speaker 1>candles all the time on social media.

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<v Speaker 2>But so it was my one of my best friend's birthday,

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<v Speaker 2>and my friends know I like spicy food.

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<v Speaker 3>So my best friend Ash, she.

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<v Speaker 2>Was passing like a you know, gaysed to like the

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<v Speaker 2>bloody mary bars were like, the hot sauce is everywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you can like make your own and she

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<v Speaker 2>like pastures like, oh my god, oh look at all

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<v Speaker 2>this hot sauce. And I was like, just got a

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<v Speaker 2>hot sauce. I was like, oh, that's kind of cute.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I think I'm gonna name my

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<v Speaker 2>blog just at hot sauce. Oh what, I'm just like

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<v Speaker 2>that and just like that and it stuck. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>now people will see me like, are you the hot

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<v Speaker 2>sauce girl?

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<v Speaker 3>Nice? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's been said that some of these viral.

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<v Speaker 1>Recipes have been known to cause love attractions and all

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<v Speaker 1>that good stuff. What would you say, are some of

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<v Speaker 1>the dishes that are at the top of folks you

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<v Speaker 1>know list.

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<v Speaker 2>Get get a Man dishes, Get a Man Dishes? Is

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<v Speaker 2>the crab spaghetti? I can attest to that crap spaghetti.

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<v Speaker 1>Alex got me even though I got a man chow.

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<v Speaker 1>She got me and my man with the crab spaghetti,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>The crab spaghet, the oxtail. And I'm not just saying

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<v Speaker 2>it because you're Jamaican, because I really do believe my

0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:10.960
<v Speaker 2>ox tail is very tasty, very tasty, Like has your

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<v Speaker 2>ox steel been co signed and approved by a real Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I swear I promise, because that's because you know we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be honest with you. Yes, all right, So because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want you to go out like that, maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>should make them the next time I come so I

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<v Speaker 2>can officially very value you would be invited to the

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<v Speaker 2>bash mint or the funeral, the repass.

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<v Speaker 3>Or one of my adventures that requires ox.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye. Okay, So we have oxtail, we have the crab,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we have a short rib pasta with like

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<v Speaker 2>a chimmy cherry salsa on top.

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<v Speaker 1>I love a short rib too, although now I'm allergic

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<v Speaker 1>to beef, but are you really? I am? So the

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<v Speaker 1>whole cowaway damn steak not supposed to ox steel technically

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<v Speaker 1>isale beef?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the same way I I feel like bacon is

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<v Speaker 2>not poork. But whatever, I don't like, it's bacon. It's

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<v Speaker 2>its own entity. So what do you think it is

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<v Speaker 2>about cooking? Because you think about cooking.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like as a historical thing. It's like a family thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Is something that brings people together? Is that a part

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<v Speaker 1>of what drove you towards cooking? Do you enjoy the

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<v Speaker 1>camaraderie in it?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I just do it because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is just something you love, like thinking of the

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<v Speaker 2>history of cooking, Like what does that mean to you?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean for me, like my favorite I think my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite part about cooking is like the community. Once the

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<v Speaker 2>food is done and you're just sitting at a table, laughing, crying,

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 2>enjoying wine, people are like, can you pass the peas?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you do Like it's like you used to do

0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:41.920
<v Speaker 2>it right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just like convenient communing over food. And that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I love about it so much because when my mom

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<v Speaker 2>would cook for us my favorite time because I thought

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:52.679
<v Speaker 2>my brother was like a comedian at one point. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, he's so funny. Like we would just sit

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<v Speaker 2>at the table and just like die laughing and just

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<v Speaker 2>eating over food. No I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you think about it now when you're going

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<v Speaker 1>out with friends, Yeah, you know, going out on a date,

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:07.840
<v Speaker 1>sitting down for dinner with my boys every night, Like

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 1>that's really the space where people dive into breaking down

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 1>the day. Yeah, like they say, breaking bread together literally

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and talking and learning about things, and you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a good way to kind of commune over.

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<v Speaker 3>Some good food.

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<v Speaker 2>It so and I always say, like when someone's cooking,

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<v Speaker 2>like they're putting their time, energy and effort and money

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<v Speaker 2>into making someone feel good through food. And that is love,

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.120
<v Speaker 2>Like that is like the purest form of love.

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<v Speaker 3>No. Absolutely, every time you come home, someone's like, are

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<v Speaker 3>you hungry? You're right, you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>And it actually makes me think of my grandmother's Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like my mom from Jamaica, my dad from Saint Vincent,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's where their moms are from. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>about my grandmother, particularly my dad's mom. Anyone who came

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 1>through the house had something to eat. Yeah, and she

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't have much. My grandmother actually couldn't read or write.

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<v Speaker 1>She was never sent to school as a kid. And

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<v Speaker 1>to see where I am now from where she's come from,

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:13.199
<v Speaker 1>and just the love that went through her house and

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<v Speaker 1>where she was able to find food for people, just

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<v Speaker 1>to give them a hot meal. You know, she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have money to give sometimes she couldn't even give good

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:25.200
<v Speaker 1>conversations per se, but she was able to just show

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:28.679
<v Speaker 1>her love cooking through food. And she and I bonded

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<v Speaker 1>a lot over that. And you think about the generations

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 1>of recipes and love and family that have been passed

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<v Speaker 1>down through cooking and through recipes.

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 3>So for me, cooking is so much deeper.

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<v Speaker 1>Than just you know, like the eateries, yeah, or the

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:47.399
<v Speaker 1>food kind of the community around it, which is so

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 1>beautiful to see. Yeah, And I would hope that once

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:51.400
<v Speaker 1>you have your spot, because I'm already going to speak

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 1>this into existence, once you have your spot, that will

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<v Speaker 1>be a place of communing and getting together and loving

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<v Speaker 1>on each other and like kindred spirits coming together. I

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 1>could totally see something like.

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<v Speaker 3>That for you.

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<v Speaker 1>So from an entrepreneur's standpoint and looking at the culinary industry,

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<v Speaker 1>are there any particular challenges that you've had to face

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<v Speaker 1>so you kind of foresee as you press forward with

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<v Speaker 1>your goals.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's like a taboo with if you went

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<v Speaker 2>to culinary school or not. And I think a taboo

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 2>because it's so just like, Yes, that's why I don't

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 2>really call myself a chef, because I do want to

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:33.240
<v Speaker 2>honor people that have gone to culinary school. So is

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 2>that a technicality where some people wouldn't quite see you

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 2>as a chef because technically I didn't get the technical

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:41.479
<v Speaker 2>background right, you have the formal training right, and so

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 2>I never want to offend anyone, but I usually like

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm a cook. I cook, but I love to cook.

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 2>So there's a difference between chef and cook. You think, Yeah,

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 2>probably a little insecurity on my part just because I

0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 2>didn't go to culinary school. I know how to cook

0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 2>and I know that is my God given talent. But like, yeah,

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:03.959
<v Speaker 2>so I think there's a fear in that of like,

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 2>am I going to be taken seriously?

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Am I going to be received?

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, but there's so many people, there's so many

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 2>chefs out there that didn't go to culinary school and

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 2>call them call themselves chefs. So it's like, I think

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 2>it's insecurity. And also just like I think stepping into

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 2>the next chapter of like I want you to taste

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 2>my food in my space, then it's like, okay, let's

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 2>do that.

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:32.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that transcends over different industries though, because I

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>feel like social media makes it easier and more doable

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 1>for you to just create your content put it out there,

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 1>much to your story. Yeah, you're putting your content out

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 1>and you're doing what you love. Yeah, and someone's watching, right,

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 1>and you never know what comes from that. But that's

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 1>somebody in any industry, even just for me for example,

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 1>like Okay, maybe I didn't. I didn't go to school

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 1>for makeup artistry, but I became a makeup artist because

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 1>I had a talent.

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 3>I was like, did you do your face yourself? I did. Oh,

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say it.

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you are beat down, like your face

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 2>looks down to the ground. It looks great, thank you,

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 2>thank you.

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 1>And I want to say I come from a makeup background.

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I never went to school a cosmetology school. So when

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 1>I went to audition or not audition, but I guess

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of like do my makeup interview Matt Cosmetics, I

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 1>felt intimidated because I'm like, okay, well I didn't go

0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 1>to cosmetology school. They always ask those kind of questions. Yeah,

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 1>but I just know I had an act for it,

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and it was fair that held me back for a

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 1>while from going in for that interview. I kind of

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>delayed it, but then it was just like fit, let

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 1>me just go.

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, I developed the talent and while there got

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 1>that on the job training. So I tend to learn

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 1>those technical ways of doing things. But that didn't take

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 1>away from the fact that I was a full blown

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 1>makeup artist, right. I didn't have the formal training. So

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 1>that's the way people I think are using social media

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>to their advantage now where it's like try the road

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>less travel. Yeah, sometimes the you know, the way everyone's

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 1>going is a little too crowded in that lane. Yeah,

0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, and culinary school maybe that me maybe that

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>your equivalent of that, right, Like.

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 2>And it's not that way it necessary for everyone because

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 2>I always knew I didn't want to be a chef

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 2>in the kitchen. I always wanted to encourage people to

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 2>get in the kitchen and cook because of the way

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 2>I felt about cooking. So it's just like to build

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 2>community around food. So I was like, so when social

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 2>media came out, I.

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 3>Was like, oh, it's great.

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, that's how that's how I could use my

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 2>cooking career, you know, of course, but it's like there's

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 2>still a knock for me of like, ooh, something's pulling

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 2>me to open up something.

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that the big overarching theme with this conversation

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 1>today and even this episode is just really encouraging folks

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>in our listeners.

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I love to have takeaways for them.

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's about following whatever that burning passion is inside.

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 1>You know. I had to do the same thing. You know,

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 1>when you told your mom that you want to go

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>to culinary school and she was just like what. I'm

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 1>sure she was probably like, oh, for something more guaranteed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And that was my story as well too. You know,

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I was around everyone who was in the medical field,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're like, Kadeen, you know, nursing, become a doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>do all the things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. You know, as a kid, I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be a pediatrician because I love kids.

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 1>And then I realized very quickly as it became a parent,

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<v Speaker 1>that you only love your kids really, and.

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it's hard to love other people's kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, in all seriousness, it was one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things where I just had to go with my gut,

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<v Speaker 1>like I had to go with what I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I was being called to do, and for me, that

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<v Speaker 1>was being a performer, being on stage, being an actress, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the host, being front of the camera.

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<v Speaker 2>That was for me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was slowly able to find my way, even

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<v Speaker 1>though you know, we live in a capitalist country, so

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>you have to do things to sustain your day to

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<v Speaker 1>day life. But if you're able to work on whatever

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<v Speaker 1>that passion is simultaneously, even if it's just a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit at a time. Yeah, you never know when you're

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna get that email that says it's to go, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a go.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think I always think my parents because it's

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<v Speaker 2>like they never you know, I think, And you're a mom,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm sure you know. But like I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>she knew what she was doing of letting me cook

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<v Speaker 2>every weekend. Am I like, I always thank her. She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you really don't have to thank me. She's like, I

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<v Speaker 2>just knew you like to cook, right, But it's like

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 2>they owe they saw something and they were just like

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<v Speaker 2>run wild in the kitchen. If that's what you want

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<v Speaker 2>to do, like, just do it. So I think I

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<v Speaker 2>always like you poured into me so much when I

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<v Speaker 2>was younger that she was like, oh, I didn't even know,

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:22.080
<v Speaker 2>Like I didn't even know. So it's like, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just that's a great that's a great point and a

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<v Speaker 2>great tidbit. I think for our listeners who have children, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you never know what you might be sparking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, child by just the exposure alone. And I recently

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<v Speaker 1>said this to my husband about our boys. You know,

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 1>let them try everything, right, let them see everything. We're

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna you know, I have four boys, so the natural

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>inclination for people are like, you know, what sports do

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 1>they play? Or they just enjoy sports. But one of

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>my sons, he does coding. One is into art, you know,

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 1>So it's museums. Yeah, it's art shows. It's exposing them

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 1>to photography, it's you know, taking them to the coding class,

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<v Speaker 1>it's being captain of the debate team.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that.

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 3>You just have to expose your children to because you

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 3>never know.

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 1>What might stick or what might ignite that passion inside

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<v Speaker 1>of them.

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<v Speaker 2>And now my parents now they're like, we would have

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 2>never thought us taking you to because my dad also

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<v Speaker 2>took me to a culinary school open house when I

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<v Speaker 2>was ten a ten ten was that random?

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<v Speaker 3>No, because he knew I loved to cook.

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:23.760
<v Speaker 2>And my mom was like, because my parents were divorced,

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 2>so she was like, Alex really likes to cook. So

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 2>he set up a time for me to tour a

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 2>culinary school and some dope and so we went to

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<v Speaker 2>Vermont and I wish I could find this picture, but

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 2>it's me with like the apron with like the colinary school.

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 2>We have to dig that picture. I'm like, mom, you

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 2>need to find that picture. Yeah, but yeah, they like now,

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:46.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like this, My whole career in food is

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<v Speaker 2>a love letter to my parents, just because that's what

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 2>they did for me.

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<v Speaker 3>A love letter to my parents. A love letter to

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<v Speaker 3>my parents. That's cute. I could see that as like

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<v Speaker 3>the title of something like the puts that.

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<v Speaker 1>In the back of our minds or in the front,

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<v Speaker 1>because we never know what the next opportunity is going

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 1>to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, thank you so much for chatting about your cooking career,

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 3>you being a cook, a chef for some.

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:12.800
<v Speaker 1>The point is she makes some good ass food. Yeah,

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I can attest to that. I've tried it. I was

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>your sous chef today. We had a really great time

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 1>in the kitchen together. So I want to take a

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:22.600
<v Speaker 1>quick break and pay some bills. But if you don't

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 1>mind sticking around, every dead ass episode has to have

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:29.840
<v Speaker 1>a listener letter. So I'm gonna read a story about

0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:31.879
<v Speaker 1>someone who wrote in and would like to hear our

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 1>two cents. Okay, there, situation, Lord, Sometimes it's a situation.

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 3>You never know what to expect.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna take a quick break and we will be

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<v Speaker 2>right back. All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the listener letter we have for this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Kadeen, I just turned thirty, got engaged, and have

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>proved my communication with my man. Has improved my communication

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>with my man thanks to the podcast You're Welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 1>And graduating with my second degree with a bachelor's in

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 1>nursing a lot of the great changes, but it took

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 1>a while for me to get to this point. Four

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 1>years ago, I was dismissed academically from a PA program

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:16.719
<v Speaker 1>and went through a season of depression and pulled away

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:19.520
<v Speaker 1>from pretty much everyone. I felt that I had lost

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 1>myself because I made my academic achievements the scale that

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 1>measured my self worth.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, after a lot of prayer and soul searching, I'm

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 1>finally getting back to who I am and who I

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:34.800
<v Speaker 1>can be. However, I've noticed that my circle is almost

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:37.719
<v Speaker 1>non existent outside of my family. I feel like my

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 1>friendships have all suffered, and now I'm struggling to rebuild them.

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:43.719
<v Speaker 1>With the wedding on the way, I truly want to

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 1>reconnect with ones I've pulled away from, but fear that

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I no longer have a place in their lives, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at a loss on how to make new adult friendships.

0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:55.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm an introvert to I'm an extroverted introvert. Wow and

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>same same, literally literally, and it takes me a while

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<v Speaker 1>to work up to people and feel confident that I'm

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 1>being accepted for who I am. But no matter what,

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I always aim to be genuine and supportive. Any advice

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<v Speaker 1>on reconnecting with old friends that may want to do

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 1>the same, or branching out to find new ones. Thank

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 1>you all for all you do. I wish you nothing

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:18.279
<v Speaker 1>but prosperity for you and your family. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for that, and thank you for writing in today.

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<v Speaker 1>So sad for her, like, I'll be your friend for real, right,

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<v Speaker 1>anything come to mind for her?

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<v Speaker 2>I think you have to like put your guard down

0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 2>and be vulnerable with your friend that you feel pulled

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:38.319
<v Speaker 2>away from and just be like, listen, girl, I messed up,

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Like this is why, just how she was very open

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<v Speaker 2>and vulnerable in the letter, Like do that. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like when you really open your heart to people and

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:51.320
<v Speaker 2>like and vulnerable and like this is it was my bad? Yeah,

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 2>and you hope people come around if they have an

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 2>open heart, you know.

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:56.759
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>You mention that because that's the first thing that came

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<v Speaker 1>to mind when reading this was circling back with those

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:04.680
<v Speaker 1>old friends may not be a bad thing as long

0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:08.000
<v Speaker 1>as you're being very transparent and honest about what you

0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 1>were going through. Yet and vulnerable is also a great word.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of times we try to keep

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<v Speaker 1>up a facade. Sometimes it just seemed like we have

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<v Speaker 1>it all together, and I think the common factors that

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:22.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of us don't like. Really, let's think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to life, we're all just here trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 3>We are just trying to survive.

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<v Speaker 1>No one has the answers, no one has the recipe,

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<v Speaker 1>considering the episode has the recipe.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no rules.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think, like you said, if you lead

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<v Speaker 1>with good intentions, and you lead with a good heart,

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:41.360
<v Speaker 1>and you just circle back with those friends and just

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<v Speaker 1>say listen. It may at the time have been embarrassing

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:48.879
<v Speaker 1>for her, but like I literally was dismissed academically.

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<v Speaker 3>That put me in a rut. I was in severe depression.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really know how to be there for other people,

0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:58.319
<v Speaker 1>because that tends to happen too. If you're not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>in the best place in your own life, you may

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<v Speaker 1>not even know how to show up for other people.

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:06.239
<v Speaker 2>And depression is real and you get to a really

0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 2>sunken place and I've had family members that have gone

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:12.080
<v Speaker 2>through it, and it's just you have to if you

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 2>can find a way out. I'm sure that your friends

0:39:15.000 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 2>will be open to being like, okay, like you know.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, because something like something as big as a

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<v Speaker 1>wedding day, you know, finding the love of your life

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:25.840
<v Speaker 1>really not being able to pick up the pieces of

0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:29.239
<v Speaker 1>your life and wanting to celebrate with those people I

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 1>think is something that is worth it, especially if they're

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<v Speaker 1>people who you think you want to and need to

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 1>have around. And if they don't come around, then they

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 1>weren't your real friends and.

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:39.400
<v Speaker 2>That's okay, and then that is okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Finding new friends as an adult, how does that work?

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<v Speaker 2>I love making new friends.

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:49.040
<v Speaker 1>So you're not signed up for drakesoul no new friends situation,

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<v Speaker 1>you're down for a new friend.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I since I moved here, I found a

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<v Speaker 2>really great like I have my best friend, like my

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<v Speaker 2>four core the best friends.

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<v Speaker 3>But I like making new friends.

0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:05.800
<v Speaker 2>It's actually like I think, when you're in a different

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:09.719
<v Speaker 2>chapter in your life, you can experience a new person and.

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:12.600
<v Speaker 3>You're like so spot on. That's so spot on.

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<v Speaker 2>I've made some really good girlfriends in this chapter of

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<v Speaker 2>my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I have too, and they're people who

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<v Speaker 1>I'm no longer as close with or just maybe the

0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 1>friendship has fizzled out for one reason or the other

0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 1>because we may have outgrown each other, right, And that's

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 1>okay too. We may not be interested in the same things.

0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 1>We may be in different phases of life. Yeah, where

0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I was in the thick of going through you know,

0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:36.960
<v Speaker 1>being a wife and a mom and having babies and

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:39.040
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. So of my single friends maybe weren't

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:41.560
<v Speaker 1>as close at the time. So that's okay too. If

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:44.360
<v Speaker 1>people are not necessarily in that phase. And it's a

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 1>special connection. I think when you have a friend or

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 1>a friend turned family who can really ride with you

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:53.359
<v Speaker 1>through all phases of life, Yeah, that's given like soul

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 1>made friendship type things.

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<v Speaker 3>And I and it's great because I have those.

0:40:56.800 --> 0:40:58.359
<v Speaker 2>And I was telling you about my best friend who

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<v Speaker 2>just had a baby, and it's like, but and I'm single,

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:03.800
<v Speaker 2>but it's like I still have to show up for

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 2>my friend who just had this baby, you know, And

0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 2>it's like we've seen each other through bad breakup yeah,

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 2>and great relationships and marriages and now babies. So it's

0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 2>like everyone's going through their own little joiney and chapters.

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:18.719
<v Speaker 3>But it's how we show up for each other within that.

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:21.359
<v Speaker 1>And there's a beauty in being able to do that

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 1>with someone, you know, to see the low lows and

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 1>to see the high highs and that way.

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 3>I feel like it makes.

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:29.279
<v Speaker 1>The friendship that much richer and sweeter when you can

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:32.760
<v Speaker 1>help each other through those moments. Because my core group,

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:34.359
<v Speaker 1>like you said, you have your four people, like your

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:37.000
<v Speaker 1>little square. Yeah, you know, I have my small little circle,

0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:38.919
<v Speaker 1>and a couple of them have been friends for over

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:42.400
<v Speaker 1>two three decades and those are the people who've seen

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 1>everything from the ground up. But then I also have

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 1>some people who have met, like you said, in this

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 1>season of life, where I'm just like, I'm freaking.

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:49.440
<v Speaker 3>In love with you.

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:53.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because we're we're just the energies just they collapse you.

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 3>I think I might have found a new friend in

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<v Speaker 3>La Alley. I know it's been like a love a

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<v Speaker 3>fear since we sat down together.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like that for I love that now that

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<v Speaker 1>I've moved from LA, I'm finding more and more people

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<v Speaker 1>in la than I'm like, man, if I was still here,

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<v Speaker 1>this would have been my tribe of people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I love that for us.

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<v Speaker 1>So good luck to you sis all the best with

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<v Speaker 1>the wedding plans and with maybe rekindling those old friendships

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<v Speaker 1>and sparking some new ones. Just be yourself with those

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<v Speaker 1>new ones. Be yourself, be who you are, and organically

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<v Speaker 1>those people will come your way. So if you want

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<v Speaker 3>But that's all that, right, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So now that we round out this episode of A

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<v Speaker 1>Day with K, I always ask my guest, what's one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that you're dead ass about? You know what you

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<v Speaker 1>lived in New or you know what dead ass means.

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<v Speaker 1>What's one thing that you are ten toes down standing on?

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<v Speaker 1>Business abouts?

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<v Speaker 3>Mmm? Therapy.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that I'm dead about therapy. Tell me why

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<v Speaker 2>when you pour into yourself and you want to do

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<v Speaker 2>the work to be a better version of yourself. There's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing like it.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, listen, okay, dead ass about therapy.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Year It's strong, good for you. That is awesome, and

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<v Speaker 1>we here we also support that too. Here are dead

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<v Speaker 1>Ass Podcast. We always will have a therapist on. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>encourage it. We have ads that run from companies that

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<v Speaker 1>are all about therapy and all about healing. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>therapy girl, So you can show up as your best

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<v Speaker 1>self and I can tell just by the energy that

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<v Speaker 1>you exude. It's just amazing. I appreciate that. Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>one thing I'm dead ass about now, I'm dead ass

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty minute meals chow because let me tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>Alex gave me a recipe or two that I know

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<v Speaker 1>will answer the question what's for dinner for joys and

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<v Speaker 1>I can teach my Jackson and of course the younger one,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're always watching. I would love for them to

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<v Speaker 1>be self sufficient in the kitchen and cook for me

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<v Speaker 1>one day, you know what I'm saying? All right, all right,

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