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Speaker 1: All right, story time, So I'm going to take you

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Speaker 1: back to a few thanks given to go. I want

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Speaker 1: And he's from a Southern American background, and there were

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So about twelve years ago, it's Thanksgiving time, right,

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Speaker 1: Devo's aunt Monique is always in charge of the sweet

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Speaker 1: All right, now, you know this would not be an

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Speaker 3: Hey? This is my go to karaoke song.

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Speaker 1: A culinary genius, chef and host of the cooking show

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Speaker 1: This so one thing we're about here on Dead as

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Speaker 1: Now, you said you had a bad story, because mine

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Speaker 2: So mine wasn't Thanksgiving, okay, but because it was a

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. March twenty twenty three. I get an

442
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 2: email that's it and granted I'm still on the internet cooking,

443
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 2: minding your own business literally literally, and so I get

444
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:46,679
Speaker 2: an email that says show concept and I go, okay,

445
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 2: whatever whatever.

446
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 3: So she like, let's go on the phone. So she

447
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,120
Speaker 3: was like, I pitched you.

448
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 2: I think I have something. And I was like, again, okay,

449
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 2: no big thing, no big deal. She was like, I

450
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 2: got on the phone with like a development manager. She

451
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 2: was like, let's talk your cooking style, all these things. Again,

452
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 2: I'm like okay. So then my best friend's wedding in May,

453
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 2: it was sin good to my weekend and I got

454
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 2: the email that shit said like it's happening, and I

455
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 2: again and.

456
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:16,880
Speaker 3: I was like, holy shit.

457
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, a cooking show. And

458
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 2: then at first it was named something else and then

459
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 2: they said they sent it to me. They're like, it's

460
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 2: gonna be spice spice baby, wow, like my instagram and

461
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 2: just like my personality and so.

462
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 1: And it made Yeah, totally makes sense now that I

463
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 1: think about a spice spies babe just at hot sauce.

464
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 3: So it's funny. I forget who it was.

465
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,199
Speaker 1: Recently had done a instagram like a little skit. It

466
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 1: was keV on stage and his wife Melissa, and it

467
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: was something where she made she made dinner and he

468
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 1: instantly went and grabbed the hot sauce send and like

469
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 1: threw it on the plane and she was so offended.

470
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and is.

471
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 1: That a thing where people feel like if someone adds

472
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,439
Speaker 1: hot sauce to my food, then it means that the

473
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 1: food is like bland or because I person still like

474
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 1: hot sauce on certain things. Same like Caribbean background. We

475
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 1: cooked with spices all the time. It's not Scotch bonnet pepper.

476
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: If it's not crushed pepper, it's want to be some

477
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 1: sort of hot sauce just because I like the added flavor. Yeah,

478
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: but do you think people take offence when you when

479
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 1: hot sauce.

480
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 2: Is added to don't? But I could see why, okay,

481
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,159
Speaker 2: cause like and usually like my crab pasta, I will

482
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:22,360
Speaker 2: red pepper flakes.

483
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 1: Okay, that that would have been good too. We made

484
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: some We made some pasta just so you know, a

485
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 1: little little.

486
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 2: Would have been cute for a low cake low kick.

487
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 2: But I was like, let me just leave it out

488
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 2: this time. But I don't get offended. I like spice, okay,

489
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: but like I could see how people and certain things.

490
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 2: I don't need hot sauce on everything, right, And I

491
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 2: think people think they're like, like, no, I don't eat

492
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 2: everything spicy, you know, right, No, where'd the name come from?

493
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 2: Just that hot sauce.

494
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 1: It's just such a catchy name when you use those

495
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 1: candles all the time on social media.

496
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 2: But so it was my one of my best friend's birthday,

497
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 2: and my friends know I like spicy food.

498
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 3: So my best friend Ash, she.

499
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 2: Was passing like a you know, gaysed to like the

500
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 2: bloody mary bars were like, the hot sauce is everywhere,

501
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: and then you can like make your own and she

502
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 2: like pastures like, oh my god, oh look at all

503
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: this hot sauce. And I was like, just got a

504
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 2: hot sauce. I was like, oh, that's kind of cute.

505
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 2: And I was like, I think I'm gonna name my

506
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 2: blog just at hot sauce. Oh what, I'm just like

507
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 2: that and just like that and it stuck. Yeah, and

508
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 2: now people will see me like, are you the hot

509
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: sauce girl?

510
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 3: Nice? Yeah?

511
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

512
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 3: So it's been said that some of these viral.

513
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: Recipes have been known to cause love attractions and all

514
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: that good stuff. What would you say, are some of

515
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 1: the dishes that are at the top of folks you

516
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: know list.

517
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: Get get a Man dishes, Get a Man Dishes? Is

518
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 2: the crab spaghetti? I can attest to that crap spaghetti.

519
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: Alex got me even though I got a man chow.

520
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: She got me and my man with the crab spaghetti,

521
00:23:58,560 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: for sure.

522
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: The crab spaghet, the oxtail. And I'm not just saying

523
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: it because you're Jamaican, because I really do believe my

524
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 2: ox tail is very tasty, very tasty, Like has your

525
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 2: ox steel been co signed and approved by a real Yes,

526
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: I swear I promise, because that's because you know we'll

527
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: be honest with you. Yes, all right, So because I

528
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 2: don't want you to go out like that, maybe you

529
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 2: should make them the next time I come so I

530
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: can officially very value you would be invited to the

531
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 2: bash mint or the funeral, the repass.

532
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 3: Or one of my adventures that requires ox.

533
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 2: Ye. Okay, So we have oxtail, we have the crab,

534
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 2: and then we have a short rib pasta with like

535
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 2: a chimmy cherry salsa on top.

536
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,719
Speaker 1: I love a short rib too, although now I'm allergic

537
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 1: to beef, but are you really? I am? So the

538
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: whole cowaway damn steak not supposed to ox steel technically

539
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: isale beef?

540
00:24:58,840 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

541
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: It's the same way I I feel like bacon is

542
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: not poork. But whatever, I don't like, it's bacon. It's

543
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 2: its own entity. So what do you think it is

544
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: about cooking? Because you think about cooking.

545
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: Just like as a historical thing. It's like a family thing.

546
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: Is something that brings people together? Is that a part

547
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: of what drove you towards cooking? Do you enjoy the

548
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: camaraderie in it?

549
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I just do it because you know,

550
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: this is just something you love, like thinking of the

551
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 2: history of cooking, Like what does that mean to you?

552
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: I mean for me, like my favorite I think my

553
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 2: favorite part about cooking is like the community. Once the

554
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 2: food is done and you're just sitting at a table, laughing, crying,

555
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: enjoying wine, people are like, can you pass the peas?

556
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 2: Can you do Like it's like you used to do

557
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 2: it right.

558
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 3: It's just like.

559
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 2: You're just like convenient communing over food. And that's what

560
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 2: I love about it so much because when my mom

561
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: would cook for us my favorite time because I thought

562
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 2: my brother was like a comedian at one point. I

563
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 2: was like, he's so funny. Like we would just sit

564
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: at the table and just like die laughing and just

565
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 2: eating over food. No I think.

566
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: I mean you think about it now when you're going

567
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: out with friends, Yeah, you know, going out on a date,

568
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: sitting down for dinner with my boys every night, Like

569
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: that's really the space where people dive into breaking down

570
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: the day. Yeah, like they say, breaking bread together literally

571
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: and talking and learning about things, and you know, it's

572
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: just a good way to kind of commune over.

573
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: Some good food.

574
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 2: It so and I always say, like when someone's cooking,

575
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 2: like they're putting their time, energy and effort and money

576
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: into making someone feel good through food. And that is love,

577
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 2: Like that is like the purest form of love.

578
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 3: No. Absolutely, every time you come home, someone's like, are

579
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 3: you hungry? You're right, you're right.

580
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 1: And it actually makes me think of my grandmother's Yeah,

581
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: like my mom from Jamaica, my dad from Saint Vincent,

582
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: so that's where their moms are from. And I think

583
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: about my grandmother, particularly my dad's mom. Anyone who came

584
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: through the house had something to eat. Yeah, and she

585
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: didn't have much. My grandmother actually couldn't read or write.

586
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: She was never sent to school as a kid. And

587
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: to see where I am now from where she's come from,

588
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 1: and just the love that went through her house and

589
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 1: where she was able to find food for people, just

590
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: to give them a hot meal. You know, she didn't

591
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: have money to give sometimes she couldn't even give good

592
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: conversations per se, but she was able to just show

593
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 1: her love cooking through food. And she and I bonded

594
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: a lot over that. And you think about the generations

595
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: of recipes and love and family that have been passed

596
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: down through cooking and through recipes.

597
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 3: So for me, cooking is so much deeper.

598
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: Than just you know, like the eateries, yeah, or the

599
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: food kind of the community around it, which is so

600
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: beautiful to see. Yeah, And I would hope that once

601
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: you have your spot, because I'm already going to speak

602
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: this into existence, once you have your spot, that will

603
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: be a place of communing and getting together and loving

604
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: on each other and like kindred spirits coming together. I

605
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: could totally see something like.

606
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: That for you.

607
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: So from an entrepreneur's standpoint and looking at the culinary industry,

608
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: are there any particular challenges that you've had to face

609
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: so you kind of foresee as you press forward with

610
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: your goals.

611
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 2: I think there's like a taboo with if you went

612
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: to culinary school or not. And I think a taboo

613
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: because it's so just like, Yes, that's why I don't

614
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: really call myself a chef, because I do want to

615
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: honor people that have gone to culinary school. So is

616
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: that a technicality where some people wouldn't quite see you

617
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: as a chef because technically I didn't get the technical

618
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,479
Speaker 2: background right, you have the formal training right, and so

619
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: I never want to offend anyone, but I usually like

620
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: I'm a cook. I cook, but I love to cook.

621
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: So there's a difference between chef and cook. You think, Yeah,

622
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: probably a little insecurity on my part just because I

623
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: didn't go to culinary school. I know how to cook

624
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: and I know that is my God given talent. But like, yeah,

625
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,959
Speaker 2: so I think there's a fear in that of like,

626
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: am I going to be taken seriously?

627
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: Right?

628
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: Am I going to be received?

629
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

630
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: You know, but there's so many people, there's so many

631
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: chefs out there that didn't go to culinary school and

632
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: call them call themselves chefs. So it's like, I think

633
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: it's insecurity. And also just like I think stepping into

634
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: the next chapter of like I want you to taste

635
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: my food in my space, then it's like, okay, let's

636
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: do that.

637
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

638
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: I think that transcends over different industries though, because I

639
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: feel like social media makes it easier and more doable

640
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: for you to just create your content put it out there,

641
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: much to your story. Yeah, you're putting your content out

642
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: and you're doing what you love. Yeah, and someone's watching, right,

643
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: and you never know what comes from that. But that's

644
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: somebody in any industry, even just for me for example,

645
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: like Okay, maybe I didn't. I didn't go to school

646
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: for makeup artistry, but I became a makeup artist because

647
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: I had a talent.

648
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 3: I was like, did you do your face yourself? I did. Oh,

649
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it.

650
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: I was like, you are beat down, like your face

651
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: looks down to the ground. It looks great, thank you,

652
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: thank you.

653
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

654
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: And I want to say I come from a makeup background.

655
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: I never went to school a cosmetology school. So when

656
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: I went to audition or not audition, but I guess

657
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: kind of like do my makeup interview Matt Cosmetics, I

658
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: felt intimidated because I'm like, okay, well I didn't go

659
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: to cosmetology school. They always ask those kind of questions. Yeah,

660
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: but I just know I had an act for it,

661
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: and it was fair that held me back for a

662
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Speaker 1: while from going in for that interview. I kind of

663
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: delayed it, but then it was just like fit, let

664
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Speaker 1: me just go.

665
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

666
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: You know, I developed the talent and while there got

667
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: that on the job training. So I tend to learn

668
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: those technical ways of doing things. But that didn't take

669
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: away from the fact that I was a full blown

670
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: makeup artist, right. I didn't have the formal training. So

671
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: that's the way people I think are using social media

672
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: to their advantage now where it's like try the road

673
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: less travel. Yeah, sometimes the you know, the way everyone's

674
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: going is a little too crowded in that lane. Yeah,

675
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: you know, and culinary school maybe that me maybe that

676
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: your equivalent of that, right, Like.

677
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 2: And it's not that way it necessary for everyone because

678
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: I always knew I didn't want to be a chef

679
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: in the kitchen. I always wanted to encourage people to

680
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: get in the kitchen and cook because of the way

681
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: I felt about cooking. So it's just like to build

682
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: community around food. So I was like, so when social

683
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: media came out, I.

684
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: Was like, oh, it's great.

685
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, that's how that's how I could use my

686
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: cooking career, you know, of course, but it's like there's

687
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: still a knock for me of like, ooh, something's pulling

688
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: me to open up something.

689
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: I think that the big overarching theme with this conversation

690
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: today and even this episode is just really encouraging folks

691
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: in our listeners.

692
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: I love to have takeaways for them.

693
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's about following whatever that burning passion is inside.

694
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: You know. I had to do the same thing. You know,

695
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: when you told your mom that you want to go

696
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: to culinary school and she was just like what. I'm

697
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: sure she was probably like, oh, for something more guaranteed. Yeah,

698
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: And that was my story as well too. You know,

699
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: I was around everyone who was in the medical field,

700
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: so they're like, Kadeen, you know, nursing, become a doctor,

701
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: do all the things.

702
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, as a kid, I was like, I'm

703
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: gonna be a pediatrician because I love kids.

704
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: And then I realized very quickly as it became a parent,

705
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: that you only love your kids really, and.

706
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's hard to love other people's kids.

707
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

708
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: But no, in all seriousness, it was one of those

709
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: things where I just had to go with my gut,

710
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: like I had to go with what I feel like

711
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: I was being called to do, and for me, that

712
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: was being a performer, being on stage, being an actress, yeah,

713
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: the host, being front of the camera.

714
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: That was for me.

715
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: And I was slowly able to find my way, even

716
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: though you know, we live in a capitalist country, so

717
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: you have to do things to sustain your day to

718
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: day life. But if you're able to work on whatever

719
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: that passion is simultaneously, even if it's just a little

720
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: bit at a time. Yeah, you never know when you're

721
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: gonna get that email that says it's to go, it's

722
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: a go.

723
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Speaker 2: And I think I always think my parents because it's

724
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: like they never you know, I think, And you're a mom,

725
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: so I'm sure you know. But like I don't think

726
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: she knew what she was doing of letting me cook

727
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: every weekend. Am I like, I always thank her. She's like,

728
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: you really don't have to thank me. She's like, I

729
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: just knew you like to cook, right, But it's like

730
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: they owe they saw something and they were just like

731
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: run wild in the kitchen. If that's what you want

732
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: to do, like, just do it. So I think I

733
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: always like you poured into me so much when I

734
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,719
Speaker 2: was younger that she was like, oh, I didn't even know,

735
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: Like I didn't even know. So it's like, yeah, it's

736
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: just that's a great that's a great point and a

737
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: great tidbit. I think for our listeners who have children, Yeah,

738
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Speaker 2: you never know what you might be sparking.

739
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, child by just the exposure alone. And I recently

740
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: said this to my husband about our boys. You know,

741
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: let them try everything, right, let them see everything. We're

742
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: gonna you know, I have four boys, so the natural

743
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: inclination for people are like, you know, what sports do

744
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: they play? Or they just enjoy sports. But one of

745
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: my sons, he does coding. One is into art, you know,

746
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: So it's museums. Yeah, it's art shows. It's exposing them

747
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: to photography, it's you know, taking them to the coding class,

748
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: it's being captain of the debate team.

749
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: Like that.

750
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 3: You just have to expose your children to because you

751
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 3: never know.

752
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: What might stick or what might ignite that passion inside

753
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: of them.

754
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 2: And now my parents now they're like, we would have

755
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: never thought us taking you to because my dad also

756
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: took me to a culinary school open house when I

757
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: was ten a ten ten was that random?

758
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 3: No, because he knew I loved to cook.

759
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 2: And my mom was like, because my parents were divorced,

760
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: so she was like, Alex really likes to cook. So

761
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: he set up a time for me to tour a

762
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: culinary school and some dope and so we went to

763
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: Vermont and I wish I could find this picture, but

764
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: it's me with like the apron with like the colinary school.

765
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: We have to dig that picture. I'm like, mom, you

766
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: need to find that picture. Yeah, but yeah, they like now,

767
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 2: I'm just like this, My whole career in food is

768
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 2: a love letter to my parents, just because that's what

769
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: they did for me.

770
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 3: A love letter to my parents. A love letter to

771
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 3: my parents. That's cute. I could see that as like

772
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 3: the title of something like the puts that.

773
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: In the back of our minds or in the front,

774
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: because we never know what the next opportunity is going

775
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: to be.

776
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 3: Wow, thank you so much for chatting about your cooking career,

777
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: you being a cook, a chef for some.

778
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: The point is she makes some good ass food. Yeah,

779
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: I can attest to that. I've tried it. I was

780
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: your sous chef today. We had a really great time

781
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: in the kitchen together. So I want to take a

782
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: quick break and pay some bills. But if you don't

783
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: mind sticking around, every dead ass episode has to have

784
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: a listener letter. So I'm gonna read a story about

785
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: someone who wrote in and would like to hear our

786
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: two cents. Okay, there, situation, Lord, Sometimes it's a situation.

787
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 3: You never know what to expect.

788
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: We're gonna take a quick break and we will be

789
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 2: right back. All right.

790
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 3: Here's the listener letter we have for this episode.

791
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: Hey, Kadeen, I just turned thirty, got engaged, and have

792
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: proved my communication with my man. Has improved my communication

793
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: with my man thanks to the podcast You're Welcome.

794
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 2: I love that.

795
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: And graduating with my second degree with a bachelor's in

796
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: nursing a lot of the great changes, but it took

797
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: a while for me to get to this point. Four

798
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: years ago, I was dismissed academically from a PA program

799
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: and went through a season of depression and pulled away

800
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: from pretty much everyone. I felt that I had lost

801
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: myself because I made my academic achievements the scale that

802
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: measured my self worth.

803
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 2: Damn.

804
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: Now, after a lot of prayer and soul searching, I'm

805
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: finally getting back to who I am and who I

806
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: can be. However, I've noticed that my circle is almost

807
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: non existent outside of my family. I feel like my

808
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: friendships have all suffered, and now I'm struggling to rebuild them.

809
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: With the wedding on the way, I truly want to

810
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: reconnect with ones I've pulled away from, but fear that

811
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: I no longer have a place in their lives, and

812
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm at a loss on how to make new adult friendships.

813
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: I'm an introvert to I'm an extroverted introvert. Wow and

814
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: same same, literally literally, and it takes me a while

815
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: to work up to people and feel confident that I'm

816
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: being accepted for who I am. But no matter what,

817
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: I always aim to be genuine and supportive. Any advice

818
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: on reconnecting with old friends that may want to do

819
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: the same, or branching out to find new ones. Thank

820
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: you all for all you do. I wish you nothing

821
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: but prosperity for you and your family. Thank you so

822
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: much for that, and thank you for writing in today.

823
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: So sad for her, like, I'll be your friend for real, right,

824
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: anything come to mind for her?

825
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: I think you have to like put your guard down

826
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: and be vulnerable with your friend that you feel pulled

827
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 2: away from and just be like, listen, girl, I messed up,

828
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: Like this is why, just how she was very open

829
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 2: and vulnerable in the letter, Like do that. I feel

830
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: like when you really open your heart to people and

831
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 2: like and vulnerable and like this is it was my bad? Yeah,

832
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: and you hope people come around if they have an

833
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: open heart, you know.

834
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's funny.

835
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 1: You mention that because that's the first thing that came

836
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: to mind when reading this was circling back with those

837
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: old friends may not be a bad thing as long

838
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: as you're being very transparent and honest about what you

839
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: were going through. Yet and vulnerable is also a great word.

840
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times we try to keep

841
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: up a facade. Sometimes it just seemed like we have

842
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: it all together, and I think the common factors that

843
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: a lot of us don't like. Really, let's think about it.

844
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: When it comes to life, we're all just here trying

845
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: to figure it out.

846
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 3: We are just trying to survive.

847
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: No one has the answers, no one has the recipe,

848
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: considering the episode has the recipe.

849
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: There's no rules.

850
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: But I do think, like you said, if you lead

851
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: with good intentions, and you lead with a good heart,

852
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: and you just circle back with those friends and just

853
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: say listen. It may at the time have been embarrassing

854
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: for her, but like I literally was dismissed academically.

855
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 3: That put me in a rut. I was in severe depression.

856
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: I didn't really know how to be there for other people,

857
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: because that tends to happen too. If you're not necessarily

858
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: in the best place in your own life, you may

859
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: not even know how to show up for other people.

860
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: And depression is real and you get to a really

861
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: sunken place and I've had family members that have gone

862
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: through it, and it's just you have to if you

863
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: can find a way out. I'm sure that your friends

864
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: will be open to being like, okay, like you know.

865
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: For sure, because something like something as big as a

866
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: wedding day, you know, finding the love of your life

867
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: really not being able to pick up the pieces of

868
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: your life and wanting to celebrate with those people I

869
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: think is something that is worth it, especially if they're

870
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: people who you think you want to and need to

871
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: have around. And if they don't come around, then they

872
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: weren't your real friends and.

873
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: That's okay, and then that is okay.

874
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 3: Finding new friends as an adult, how does that work?

875
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 2: I love making new friends.

876
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: So you're not signed up for drakesoul no new friends situation,

877
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: you're down for a new friend.

878
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.

879
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: And when I since I moved here, I found a

880
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 2: really great like I have my best friend, like my

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Speaker 2: four core the best friends.

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Speaker 3: But I like making new friends.

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Speaker 2: It's actually like I think, when you're in a different

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Speaker 2: chapter in your life, you can experience a new person and.

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Speaker 3: You're like so spot on. That's so spot on.

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Speaker 2: I've made some really good girlfriends in this chapter of

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Speaker 2: my life.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I have too, and they're people who

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Speaker 1: I'm no longer as close with or just maybe the

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Speaker 1: friendship has fizzled out for one reason or the other

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Speaker 1: because we may have outgrown each other, right, And that's

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Speaker 1: okay too. We may not be interested in the same things.

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Speaker 1: We may be in different phases of life. Yeah, where

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Speaker 1: I was in the thick of going through you know,

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Speaker 1: being a wife and a mom and having babies and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. So of my single friends maybe weren't

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Speaker 1: as close at the time. So that's okay too. If

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Speaker 1: people are not necessarily in that phase. And it's a

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Speaker 1: special connection. I think when you have a friend or

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Speaker 1: a friend turned family who can really ride with you

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Speaker 1: through all phases of life, Yeah, that's given like soul

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Speaker 1: made friendship type things.

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Speaker 3: And I and it's great because I have those.

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Speaker 2: And I was telling you about my best friend who

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Speaker 2: just had a baby, and it's like, but and I'm single,

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Speaker 2: but it's like I still have to show up for

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Speaker 2: my friend who just had this baby, you know, And

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Speaker 2: it's like we've seen each other through bad breakup yeah,

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Speaker 2: and great relationships and marriages and now babies. So it's

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Speaker 2: like everyone's going through their own little joiney and chapters.

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Speaker 3: But it's how we show up for each other within that.

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Speaker 1: And there's a beauty in being able to do that

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Speaker 1: with someone, you know, to see the low lows and

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Speaker 1: to see the high highs and that way.

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Speaker 3: I feel like it makes.

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Speaker 1: The friendship that much richer and sweeter when you can

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Speaker 1: help each other through those moments. Because my core group,

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Speaker 1: like you said, you have your four people, like your

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Speaker 1: little square. Yeah, you know, I have my small little circle,

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Speaker 1: and a couple of them have been friends for over

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Speaker 1: two three decades and those are the people who've seen

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Speaker 1: everything from the ground up. But then I also have

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Speaker 1: some people who have met, like you said, in this

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Speaker 1: season of life, where I'm just like, I'm freaking.

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Speaker 3: In love with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because we're we're just the energies just they collapse you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think I might have found a new friend in

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Speaker 3: La Alley. I know it's been like a love a

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Speaker 3: fear since we sat down together.

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Speaker 1: So I like that for I love that now that

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Speaker 1: I've moved from LA, I'm finding more and more people

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Speaker 1: in la than I'm like, man, if I was still here,

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Speaker 1: this would have been my tribe of people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I love that for us.

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Speaker 1: So good luck to you sis all the best with

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Speaker 1: the wedding plans and with maybe rekindling those old friendships

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Speaker 1: and sparking some new ones. Just be yourself with those

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Speaker 1: new ones. Be yourself, be who you are, and organically

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Speaker 1: those people will come your way. So if you want

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Speaker 1: to be a listener letter right here on dead Ass

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Speaker 1: Podcast or A Day with K, you know, because we're

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Speaker 1: to write in to us at Deadass Advice at gmail

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Speaker 1: A d V I C E at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 3: But that's all that, right, all right.

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Speaker 1: So now that we round out this episode of A

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Speaker 1: Day with K, I always ask my guest, what's one

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Speaker 1: thing that you're dead ass about? You know what you

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Speaker 1: lived in New or you know what dead ass means.

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Speaker 1: What's one thing that you are ten toes down standing on?

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Speaker 1: Business abouts?

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Speaker 3: Mmm? Therapy.

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Speaker 2: I like that I'm dead about therapy. Tell me why

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Speaker 2: when you pour into yourself and you want to do

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Speaker 2: the work to be a better version of yourself. There's

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Speaker 3: Listen, listen, okay, dead ass about therapy.

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Speaker 2: I love that for you.

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Speaker 1: Year It's strong, good for you. That is awesome, and

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Speaker 1: we here we also support that too. Here are dead

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Speaker 1: encourage it. We have ads that run from companies that

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Speaker 1: are all about therapy and all about healing. I'm a

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Speaker 1: therapy girl, So you can show up as your best

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Speaker 1: one thing I'm dead ass about now, I'm dead ass

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Speaker 1: about twenty minute meals chow because let me tell you,

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Speaker 1: Alex gave me a recipe or two that I know

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Speaker 1: I can teach my Jackson and of course the younger one,

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