WEBVTT - 161 | Playing General Manager: 2022 Miami Marlins 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:17.640 He's a Sage Lake Crackers. 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:33.920 Crazy shit. Here, we will see you, Toms the Gunner. 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:43.200 Welcome to hang out. Welcome to the Just Baseball Show. 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:46.960 It is Tuesday, February fifteenth, and I'm joined with arm 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:49.720 Leyton and Ethan Bodowski. We have a couple of things 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:52.120 to go over before we play general manager with the 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:55.639 Miami Marlins, and I have two perfect people to deal with. 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.600 Arm comes from Lockdown Marlins, He's always been a Marlins 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:03.440 Miami and of course Ethan Bodowski writes for Just Baseball 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:07.360 dot Com covering the Marlins. What's up boys? Post Super Bowl? 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.440 I am not feeling great. I just came back from Vegas. 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.840 As you could probably hear it in my voice, but 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:16.560 my rams won the freaking Super Bowl. How you guys 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:19.880 doing there? You go, Yeah, I mean. 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:23.920 I'm better and worse than you, right, Like, we're about 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.280 to talk about the team that we grew up watching 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:29.040 that has not won a World Series since our brains 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:31.520 really can remember anything, which is you know, two thousand 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:33.280 Like my memory starts a two thousand and five and on. 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:35.920 So, yeah, you just got a Super Bowl. 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:38.960 Our football team that we grew up being a fan 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:42.640 of is also in shambles. It's bad across the board 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.160 except for basketball. So I was gonna ask you, have 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:47.480 you ever seen two Marlins fans in the same place. 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:52.320 It's very rare. It's very rare because I mean, like, generally, 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.640 how many Marlins fans are there? But Ethan, how are you? Brother? 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:59.840 It's doing good. It's Valentine's Day. We're recording on Valentine's 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:02.440 Day to post tomorrow. Ethan's got a Valentine's dinner after 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.840 Jack McMullen is not here. He's talking, you know, with 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.880 his beautiful girlfriend, while arm and I, you know, we're 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:12.960 talking Marlins. And that's that's our beautiful co hosts reading 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:13.600 up for dinner. 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:16.320 Afterwards, you two going taking out to each other out 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.280 to a romantic dinner. No, I had to make sure 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.119 to get the pod in and then Valentine's Day come 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.400 after the pod. We all know how the priority sly, 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.440 But no, I thought the game was really good last night. 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:29.040 I really haven't been able to stop thinking about Aaron 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:32.200 Donald making that final play sealing the deal, just how 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:36.280 poetic the whole thing was. The Rams are really lovable champion. 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:38.840 It's the first year in a while i've actually enjoyed 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.400 a Super Bowl because Brady wasn't in it and I 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.560 could just kind of sit back and relax and enjoy. 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:47.040 But I'm itching now that football is over. I'm really 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:50.200 itching for some baseball. I'm really This morning, I like 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:52.400 thought about baseball and I was like, wow, I need 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:54.640 any kind of fixing I can get. So I was 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.560 really happy when he sent me a text today to 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.280 come on and talk some talk some balls. 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:02.560 So wish we could have the classic. It's baseball season 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:04.400 as soon as the Super Bowl ends. But of course 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.639 we are still in a lockout. But we I feel 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:08.520 like just baseball, we kind of pretend it's not happening, 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:10.360 and we just still go through our predictions because we 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:12.600 don't care. We know a season's going to happen. What 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.680 is you guys feeling right now when it comes to 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:17.920 the lockout? Do you are them? Do you think that 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:20.480 we're going to start April first? Opening Day? Like if 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.160 I gave you a line over under one hundred and 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.680 sixty one and a half games played this year, are 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:28.040 you taking the over or the under over? 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:32.280 I'm still like I'm the optimist here, and I think 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:35.280 you know people people might laugh sometimes without optimistic I've 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:38.720 been about it, but even like with the move Saturday, 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:42.880 I think each side is incrementally starting to get closer 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:45.160 to where they need to be, and it's just a 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.120 matter of timing. I think we're going to see spring 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.320 training delayed, but I don't think the season will be impacted. 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:51.000 Like they're going to get to where they need to go, 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:52.760 and it's the closer we get to it, the more 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:55.160 we'll see both sides give. I think we'll see the 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:57.160 players give the most we've seen so far on the 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.680 next you know, return off or from them. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.200 Ethan, what do you think over under one sixty one 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:02.680 and a half? 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:06.120 Yeah, you know, I a few weeks ago, like, I 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:08.000 was talking to a buddy of mine and I said, 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.320 you know, I think that the worst case scenario was 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:13.080 that they play one hundred and fifty games. And maybe 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:16.440 I'm a bit skeptical, but I'm starting to think that 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:19.680 might be best case scenario at this point. I understand 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.960 that all they would really have to do is kind 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.400 of cut spring training down, but I'm not sure. 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:27.599 How happy the league is going to be about that. 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:30.320 I mean, I think spring training can be cut down anyway, 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:34.839 but I don't know I really like there's that you know, 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.400 these talks are moving really slowly, and I feel like 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.280 eventually maybe they'll hit a point where things kind of 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:43.839 speed up. But I definitely think we're in for at 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.880 least a spring training delay. I mean, you know that 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:48.880 that seems to be where we're headed. I mean, pitchers 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.240 and catchers were supposed to report this week, I think, 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:56.240 and you know, here we are obviously, so I you know, 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.360 I wish that I felt better about it, because I 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:02.760 would love to be down in Jupiter, you know, hanging 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:06.120 out with with my reporter friends and with Jezishem and 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:09.440 the guys. But unfortunately, you know, I'm not sure when 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.480 I'm gonna be able to head down there because you know, 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.920 they're they're the owners are taking their sweet time, that's 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:18.320 for sure, and they are the ones that are you know, 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.360 it's them doing it and they're taking their sweet old time. 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:24.760 So I'm pretty fed up. But we're gonna play baseball, 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.200 you know. I mean some people are like, we're not 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:29.000 gonna have a season at all. We'll play baseball, and 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:32.440 we'll play baseball before before the All Star break for sure. 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.200 Like you know, if anything, I think it'll kind of 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:38.440 leak into April, but I think that's the worst case. 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:40.840 I would take the over one sixty one and a half. 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:42.880 I do think that we're gonna play all one sixty two. 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.080 I feel like, you know, with the COVID shortened season, 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.640 the amount of money that was lost, they're just gonna 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.720 lose out on so much money and just fan engagement 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:54.120 because we actually don't play all one sixty two, it's 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:58.120 gonna be horrific for the league, really bad, look, really badly. 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.440 And I'm also wondering if this might because you know, 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:02.400 you guys know there have been talks for years and 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:04.760 years and years about shortening the season, maybe to one 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.360 hundred and forty four games, possibly one hundred and fifty games. 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:10.039 I'm curious to arm, do you think that if we, 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:12.919 let's say we do only play one hundred and fifty games, 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.000 do you think it could possibly set some sort of 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:18.839 president moving forward that says, hey, maybe the season should 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:19.800 be shortened a little bit. 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:24.400 You know, It's funny we saw we saw MLB use 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.200 the COVID situation to cut the draft down because that 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:30.720 was something MLB always wanted and it was an opportunity 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.160 to cut it to five and now we're back to 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.960 twenty and we haven't really bumped up from twenty. So 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.200 I could see in a situation where if the season 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.680 was cut short that it could open the floodgates a 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.400 little bit. And I think that's another reason why the 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.160 players are gonna have a little bit more urgency here 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:45.800 to just get to one sixty two, because I still 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.000 think they prefer, you know, the one sixty two. As 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:49.840 crazy as that sounds, it's more money for them, So 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.240 I think we'll have it happen. But yeah, if we 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:54.920 see the season cut down, I think there's there's a 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:58.160 scenario where you know, they'll say, hey, why don't this 0:06:58.240 --> 0:06:58.640 worked out? 0:06:58.640 --> 0:06:58.880 Fine? 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:00.400 Like why do't why don't we try this and just 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:05.360 expand the playoffs instead, which you know, I think definitely 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:08.760 favors the owners with how much money the postseason brings in. 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.240 Absolutely, So, Ethan, what do you think, what do you 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:13.280 think about that? Yeah? 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:16.120 I mean I think that fans, you know, kind of 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:19.440 drive obviously, they're the drivers of interested in the game, right, 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:21.720 And if fans are fed up with one sixty two 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.440 and they go down to one fifty, maybe like a 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:27.520 one forty five number or something like that, and all 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:29.880 of a sudden, the fans all get really excited about 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:31.680 it and feel like it's a little better. But at 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.720 the same time, you know, that's in the grand scheme 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:35.320 of things. It's only you know, if you go down 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:36.880 to one fifty, it's only like a week and a 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:37.760 half of baseball. 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:40.760 Like, that's not that much of a difference to the season, 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:41.080 you know. 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:42.800 So I think fans are just going to kind of 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.400 be like, we can do with the extra week and 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:46.239 a half of baseball. 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:47.160 It's not a big deal. 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:50.960 But I'm an advocate for why would you want the 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.480 season to end? You know, people always explain about games 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:55.720 being long? Why do you want games to be long? 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.000 Who cares if the super Bowl runs four hours? Why 0:07:58.000 --> 0:07:59.240 do you want the super Bowl to be over? 0:07:59.320 --> 0:07:59.800 You know what I mean? 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.920 So, yeah, I just feel like that one sixty two number, 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:06.880 that's how it is, and it's a good you know, it's. 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:08.280 You don't have to watch them all long. 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:10.000 Yeah, you don't have to know, no one, no one's 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:11.840 making you watch them by it right, exactly? 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.120 But oh we watch them all though. 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:18.960 Yeah, but exactly, we don't have to what would do yeah, 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:20.400 watch take mondays off? 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.520 Take Mondays off? Whatever. But let's gentlemen, we have two 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:26.200 of the best Miami minds that I could find. So 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:29.360 let's play general manager with the Miami Marlins. And first 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:31.400 I want to give you guys the sixty second rundown 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:34.000 of the twenty twenty one season and then we'll break 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.080 straight into it. So the Miami Marlins open up the 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:38.880 twenty twenty one season with a seventy four and a 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:41.600 half win projection. They just came off a playoff berth 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:43.840 in twenty twenty, which was the first time they made 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:46.360 the playoffs since they won the championship in two thousand 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.160 and three, but they underperformed in twenty twenty one. They 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:51.280 finished fourth place in the NLE East with a sixty 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:54.040 seven and ninety five record. The offense was the big 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.920 issue here. The team finished with the second fewest runs 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:00.319 scored and tied for twenty sixth in WRC plus. Although 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:03.560 the team offense wasn't very strong, we did see encouraging 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:07.760 performances from rookie Jazz Chisolm and Hayesu's Sanchez, but the 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:09.920 pitching is what is starting to get people really excited. 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.400 They finished eleventh in THERA and eighth and FIP as 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.720 a staff behind young studs like Sandy Alkintara and NL 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:19.000 rookie the year runner up Trevor Rodgers. Pablo Lopez has 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:22.679 also really established himself as a very strong three even 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.559 though he just threw over one hundred innings. The Marlins 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:28.040 bullpen was strong as well. They finished seventh in the 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:31.960 ERA and sixth and fifth behind the performances of Dylan Floro, 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:35.880 Richard Bleier, and Anthony Bender. It's a steep climb to 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.200 the playoffs, especially in a division that as the twenty 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.440 twenty one World Series champion Braves and the Mets adding 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:44.680 Max Scherzer. But with a few big moves, we could 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:49.600 see the Martlins enter the conversation in twenty twenty two. 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:53.520 So before we get into a lot of the moves 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.800 that we think the Marlins should make after the lockout 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.320 is finished, let's go through a lot of the moves 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.720 that they've done so so far. Maybe give it a grade, 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.199 talk about it kind of briefly, and then we'll get 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:07.040 into some roster construction and we'll play the role of 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:11.120 Kim Nang so arm, What is your favorite move that 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.640 the Marlins have made this offseason so far? 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.640 I'm so glad you asked me favorite and not least favorite, 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:17.720 because there are two. 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:18.719 There's two. 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:21.520 There's there's a great move, there's a bad move, and 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:22.800 there's a move in the middle. 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:24.440 So thank you for the great one. 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.760 I'll go with you, Jacob Stallings, that that move is 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:30.040 just it was so good for the Marlins. And we 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:33.319 had talked about, you know, Wilson Contreras or you know, 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:37.760 a bunch of other really more offensive minded catchers, and yeah, 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:41.839 I could definitely get behind the offensive boost and maximizing 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:45.720 the production anyway possible. But what I'm really excited about 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:49.000 with Stallings is he's the best defensive catcher in baseball 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.000 right now, and you know, he's unbelievable framer didn't have 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.120 a single pass ball. I mean the kind of confidence 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.080 that that's going to give guys like Jesus Wizardo. And 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:59.040 then also the advantage that it gives a Sandy al 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.280 Contra when you're still more strikes from him at the 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.560 bottom of the zone with those sinkers stealing strikes for 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:07.719 Trevor Rodgers. And remember this is not just bringing in Stallings, 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:10.120 it's taking what is the biggest dumpster fire of a 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:13.959 catcher situation and bringing in Jacob Stallings, Right, so you're 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:17.760 taking the worst defensive catcher in baseball, arguably in Jorgel Farro, 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:21.120 and bringing in Stallings. Then you're taking a situation where 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:24.360 you look at Stallings ninety five WRC plus, people would 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.760 be like, oh, that's five percent below average, but catching 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.319 position in baseball was eighty nine WRC plus, so he's 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:33.800 actually about five percent above average. And then compounding that, 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:37.240 the Marlins got a sixty three WRC plus from their 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:40.280 catching position last year, so think about that, they get 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:43.960 a thirty two percent bump essentially your thirty plus percent 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:47.280 bump to their catching position in offensive just production. 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:48.760 That's massive. 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.240 I mean, this is going to be a boost that 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:53.840 really transcends whatever you're going to see in the advanced 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.400 statistics and anything like that, because it's from where they 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:58.560 were to where they are. I think it's just going 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:00.679 to be such a big difference. And they didn't give 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:01.280 up that much. 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:01.520 You know. 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:03.960 I love Kyle Nicholas. I'm a big Colin Nicholas fan. 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.319 Just had him on the call up. He's a great prospect. 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.120 But the Marlins have a million pitchers. Zach Thompson's a 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:11.240 good back end you know, big league starter, I think, 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:14.000 but again, they don't need him, and Connor Scott is 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:15.400 probably a fourth outfielder. 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:17.480 So I was I was great. I was very happy 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:21.320 with that move. First of all, I like your restraint 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.000 on talking about Connor Scott, because I know you and 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:25.640 I have talked about him a lot. But I like 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.480 your restraint there. No, I you know, I'm gonna go 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:30.880 before I get to what I think was my best move. 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:32.480 I'll talk about Stallings for a second, which is I 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:34.560 was one of those people advocate. I was the biggest 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:40.840 advocate for sing Conturres because my philosophy on baseball is 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:43.120 score as many runs as possible. Who gives a shit 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:46.080 about defense sometimes, But at the end of the day, 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:50.160 Stallings will be the best defensive catcher. And like Arham said, 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:54.080 you know, going from watching Sandy Leone and Jorgel Farrow 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:56.480 and whoever else they were thrown out there at the 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:59.840 plate to watching Jacob Stallings will still be a massive improvement. 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.880 Even if he's not the greatest offensive catcher that we've 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.440 ever seen. Ninety five way to runs great A plus 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:08.079 is more than enough for what he's going to provide defensively. 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.800 So I kind of was sour on the move at first. 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.760 Because I really thought they should move for Contraras. 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:15.440 But at the end of the day, it is a 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:16.240 really good move for them. 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.800 But for me, it's not an addition that they made 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:20.200 that's the best move of the off season. 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:21.760 It was locking up Sandy al Contra. 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:22.760 Absolutely. 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:27.040 This guy is a certified ace. I mean, he what 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:29.840 he did last year. He put himself as you know, 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.800 everybody's sexy pick is a dark horse to win Cy Young. 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.600 Win the Cy Young next year. This guy's a force 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.720 on the hill. You know, went out there. He told 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:41.280 us before the season. You know, I was in those 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:44.240 spring training press conferences and he talked about two hundred innings, 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.199 two hundred innings. I want to throw two hundred innings, 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:48.440 and he left no doubt about it. 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.000 You know, he was going seven eight nine strong. 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:55.160 There were games he lost a game where he lost 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:57.720 a complete game because it was nothing, nothing, and he 0:13:57.800 --> 0:13:59.720 let up a run with two outs in the eighth inning. 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:04.480 He threw a two thirds and loss. So yeah, that 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:07.080 was the kind of season it was for the Marlins 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:11.400 this year. But he was just stunning. And I really 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:15.000 think as much as they went in on avasjol Garcia, 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.040 they went in on Stallings, they went in on Wendel. 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.840 They're probably going to do more business after the break, 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.560 you know, after the lockout. I think the biggest thing 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.680 that says that, okay, like we're actually trying to win here, 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:29.240 for me at least, was locking up Sandy and saying 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.120 that this is this is going to be our guy 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:33.560 for five seven, you know how, or many years of 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.080 control they have him for now, and we're going to 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:38.200 build our team around him. Because they've made it clear 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.440 they're going to build a team around pitching. And I 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:43.080 think it's a good strategy because they've shown that they're 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:45.640 just going to keep replenishing. You know, like, yes, trading 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.360 Kyle Nicholas for a lot of organizations that would be 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:50.320 a loss, but they're just gonna keep drafting. 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:51.240 They're going to keep signing. 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:53.880 I fase they're going to keep and and they they've 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:56.560 shown they can do it. Nobody should doubt their ability 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.480 to develop pitching because they're going to do it well. 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:02.280 So their organization be based on pitching. This is one 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:05.360 of the brightest young starters in the National League. I 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.120 think that was a huge vote of conf you know, 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.840 the fans should feel very confident about what they did 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.680 in terms of this was a big move to say 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:17.640 we actually are trying to win here. They have to 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.040 make a lot of other moves before they win. A 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.160 lot of the fan base back over. I know that 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:26.120 for sure, and you know, all reports are that they're 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:29.000 still going to be busy following the lockout. But I 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:32.320 thought that was a really big first step. And after 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:37.239 that it was followed by trading for Stallings, signing Garcia, 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.560 trading for Wendel, which I thought were three good additions. 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:42.640 They could have made better ones, but I think they 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:43.480 will in the future. 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:46.480 So I think it kind of kicked off their off 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.960 season and I think that was the thing that was 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.840 at the top of their priority list, and then offense 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:54.320 comes next, and so I think that. 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:55.640 Was the best move they made so far. 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.840 And I love Sandy. I mean you you guys have 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:00.520 heard me blush about them. He was one of the 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:02.280 four pitchers last year to throw over to her one 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:06.520 hundred innings. I mean, his fastballs electric, He's just got moxie. 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:08.920 And I say it about guys specifically because when I 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.120 see it, I see it, and he's one of those guys. 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.640 We talked about it briefly. But another great move that 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:20.240 the Marlins made, non tendering Lewis Brinson and trading Orgil Farrow, that. 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:23.920 Was moving on. That was I couldn't believe they pulled 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:25.640 that off. And the way they pulled that off is 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.360 because I don't know if they planted Curvelli and the 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:32.280 Padres organization so that they could tell get him to 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:34.800 convince whatever. I don't know how they pulled it off 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:36.400 even for I think it was like a player to 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.200 be named later, but. 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:39.920 I don't care what his name is. It was a 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:46.640 good trade and again moving right exactly really good enough. Yeah, 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:48.920 Theres got a really good left fielder and shot and. 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:52.680 Moorhel who knows, who knows what he what kind of 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.120 potential he is, But I mean, yeah, just moving on 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:58.280 from those guys was enough. And and just even getting 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:01.800 competency at the plate at the catcher position and should 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:04.679 provide a big boost to the offense because that eight spot, 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:08.840 I mean, it was ugly this year. It was ugly, 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:10.720 and it made a lot of their games. They were 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.479 not a very watchable product this year. It was really 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.199 hard to watch them at times when Sandy wasn't pitching, 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:20.840 or when Trevor wasn't pitching, it was really hard to watch. 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:24.520 Yeah, but there are some positives, and we just went 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:28.000 over some positives. But again, there are some negatives in arum. 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:32.200 There has been one specific deal that you really really 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:34.359 don't like, like not even a little bit. What is 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:34.800 that move? 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:38.520 Yeah, I'm I'm I'm like probably a little bit too 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:40.800 much of a complainer on the avy Garcia deal, just 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.800 because four years fifty three million like to most to you, Peter, 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.560 like you'd probably be like, Okay, that's fine whatever. 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:49.240 Like it's the Yankees, I wouldn't care. 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:51.359 You don't care about four fifty three, but four fifty 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:53.040 three for the Marlins wild too. 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:56.280 It's a long time. It's a long time. 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:59.680 And avy Garcia has never produced back to back seasons 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:02.879 of a WRC plus above one hundred. He's only had 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:06.119 two seasons with an OPS over eight hundred. There's a 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.840 lot of concerning metrics. The one thing that I will 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.359 say that is encouraging is that he didn't benefit from 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.480 Milwaukee as much as people would think. Like you look 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:16.120 at the numbers and you like conventional thinking would be, oh, 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:18.440 we got the boost from what used to be Miller 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:21.000 Park and now is an American family field. In fact, though 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:23.280 if you look at the splits, they're consistent. If you 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.439 look at Baseball Savants expected home runs, twenty six of 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:28.520 his twenty nine homers would have been gone at Marlins Park. 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:30.800 That is encouraging. So maybe the Marlins really feel like 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:32.840 he figured something out. The exit vgos were the higher, 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:35.280 the highest they've ever been. There's a lot of good 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:37.320 things there to point towards him maybe being closer to 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:39.880 what he was last year. I just think four years 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:42.480 fifty three, with what's still out there in the market, 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:45.159