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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fitness Disrupted, a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: I am Tom Holland and this is Fitness Disrupted. So

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Speaker 1: do a little bit of everything. On Fitness Disrupted. We

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Speaker 1: have the shows where I take a topic, I find

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Speaker 1: great studies, research, we break it down, we bust the myths.

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Speaker 1: Then I have on some great doctors, scientists, Dr Daniel Lieberman,

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Speaker 1: Dr Brad shown Fell, Dr Michelle Olson. You know, you've

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Speaker 1: got the strength guy, the barefoot running, You've got interval

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Speaker 1: training with Dr Michelle Olson. And then and I always

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Speaker 1: cringe to use this term, but real people, real people.

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Speaker 1: So David Garcia, who lost, you know, over a hundred

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Speaker 1: pounds and has kept it off ten plus years, success stories,

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Speaker 1: success stories. And this next guest is just she's amazing.

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Speaker 1: She's absolutely amazing. And I've gotten a lot of questions

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Speaker 1: about older fitness. I don't know. I'm fifty one now,

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Speaker 1: so I fall into that category. But people generally asking fifties, sixties, seventies,

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Speaker 1: what they should do, how they should, you know, modify

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Speaker 1: their program if at all. And it's always a tough subject.

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Speaker 1: Because of my next guest, she's in her sixties and

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Speaker 1: she is amazing. She is one of the healthiest, strongest,

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Speaker 1: just perfect examples of what you can be. And her

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Speaker 1: story is amazing. I first met her several years ago

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Speaker 1: in Canada, so I do the shopping channels frequently, and

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Speaker 1: she was a fitness model and blew me away. And

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Speaker 1: she's one of these people that and I hate to

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Speaker 1: talk about the looks part, but it's part of what

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Speaker 1: we do and it's part of why we do it.

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Speaker 1: She looks twenty years younger easily, and it's not even

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Speaker 1: that that blew me away as much as what she

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Speaker 1: gave off. So she is just she's strong, she is

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Speaker 1: just exudes health and wellness. Uh, and that's rare. It's

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Speaker 1: just rare, especially for women. It wasn't always okay to

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Speaker 1: lift weights. It still isn't to some women, which is,

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Speaker 1: you know, one of the things that drives me up

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Speaker 1: the wall, that fear of bulk. And I'm gonna talk

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Speaker 1: to her about that, but I want you to and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pitch it throughout the show because you gotta

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Speaker 1: put a face to the story. And it's Linda Jagger,

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Speaker 1: all right, l y n d A and then Jagger

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Speaker 1: j A g e er. But you can see that

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Speaker 1: in the description of the show as well, But I

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Speaker 1: want you to go to her Instagram page, take a look,

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Speaker 1: and then hear her story. And I know from speaking

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Speaker 1: to have a really long conversation with her. But she's

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Speaker 1: got an incredible story, and she hits on all the

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Speaker 1: things that that I believe and and that work, and

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Speaker 1: it's there are no secrets, it's not about starving yourself.

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Speaker 1: It's about small steps all those things. She's just a

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Speaker 1: really really nice person as well. Enough, uh so, one

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Speaker 1: short break to start and then when we come back,

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Speaker 1: I'm bringing her right on. She is in her sixties,

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Speaker 1: she's a fitness model, she's a mother of two, step

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Speaker 1: mom of three, and she's a grandmother of six. And

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Speaker 1: she's been doing this for a really long time. But

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna let her tell her story. So when we

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Speaker 1: come back from the break, fitness model, grandmother, overall incredible

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Speaker 1: fitness personality, Linda Jaker, We'll be right back, and we

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Speaker 1: are back special guest, as I said in the intro,

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Speaker 1: truly special guest. And on this show, we have you

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Speaker 1: know experts. I do shows where I talk about research

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Speaker 1: and then I love this term and Linda and I

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Speaker 1: will talk about it real people, right, Linda. Don't you

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Speaker 1: love when we're called real people and then not? Right?

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Speaker 1: So welcome to the show, Linda, and it's yeager right.

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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I'm pronouncing it, and

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me so, as I

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Speaker 1: We go way back, at least a couple of years now.

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Speaker 1: We met on set in Canada doing some home shopping

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Speaker 1: and I was blown away the first time I met Linda.

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Speaker 1: And I've been in the industry many years, as Linda hasn't.

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Speaker 1: We will talk about that, but you know, there are

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Speaker 1: And it's about being healthy. And Linda, you are You've

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Speaker 1: been doing this how many years now? Forty years? When

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Speaker 1: And I didn't know that as we've you know, is

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Speaker 1: And how many times have we worked together. So that's

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Speaker 1: so interesting to me. First of all, way back when

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Speaker 1: You know, it was it absolutely it helped with you know,

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Speaker 1: It would be so much more. That is so amazing.

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Speaker 1: And I talked about that all the time Linda on

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a question anymore. Oh absolutely, um

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Speaker 1: same thing with food. People go, well, I don't want

426
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Speaker 1: to eat eggs and I go, okay, there's nine million

427
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Speaker 1: other protein alternatives right that you can eat. And you

428
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Speaker 1: and I are people, and research shows that we tend

429
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Speaker 1: to eat the same foods. I mean, I always say

430
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Speaker 1: the best thing we could do is be a little

431
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Speaker 1: bit more creative and what we eat. But all things

432
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Speaker 1: being equal, as you said, keep it simple, right, if

433
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Speaker 1: the foods work for you and you enjoy them and

434
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Speaker 1: they're healthy, yes we should vary our diets as much

435
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Speaker 1: as possible, but not too much because then then we're

436
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Speaker 1: not quite sure. No. I I totally agree. Yes, I

437
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: mean people ask me all the time, what is it

438
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Speaker 1: that you eat? Can you give us your diet? And

439
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 1: I said, if I was to give you my diet,

440
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 1: you would be bored, silly. You would say, what the

441
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 1: heck is this? You know this is just boring. But

442
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: I enjoy my meals, um and I know that they're

443
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Speaker 1: good for me, that I know they're doing exactly what

444
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Speaker 1: I want them to do, and I know I'm meeting

445
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: the right amounts um. So again, I just tend not

446
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: to overthink it. I mean, I do you know we

447
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Speaker 1: go out for different meals and we go to a

448
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Speaker 1: restaurant or something. I'll eat a nice healthy choice off

449
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Speaker 1: the menu. And of course you know this is out

450
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Speaker 1: of my my normal realm of what I'm eating. But yeah,

451
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Speaker 1: generally speaking, proacent of the time, um my, my meals

452
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 1: look pretty well the same. Yeah, yeah, and and and

453
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Speaker 1: that's great news for people. And I hope they're getting

454
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: all the you know, I love the words like hacks

455
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 1: all that there's no hacks, they're just you know, they're

456
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: simple tips. There's no shortcut, Linda, exactly. And what I

457
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Speaker 1: love you said, and I did a show on it,

458
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: and I call them second level stuff, right. And in

459
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Speaker 1: other words, you know, people say to again you and I,

460
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Speaker 1: what's what's the best protein, And I'll say, don't worry

461
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 1: about it. Just get in your protein start there, right,

462
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 1: get in the amount you need every day. And if

463
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Speaker 1: and if we told someone, hey, you know, way protein,

464
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Speaker 1: P protein, whatever it would be, how are you possibly

465
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Speaker 1: going to eat that way all the time? Right? So

466
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Speaker 1: you know that second level stuff, right, Linda, is is

467
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Speaker 1: people get caught up in it, and you're just like,

468
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Speaker 1: just do the simple stuff consistently, oh exactly. And it's

469
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Speaker 1: the same with exercise, that's you know, I just I

470
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Speaker 1: always tell people just get out and do it. Don't

471
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Speaker 1: overthink it. Don't think you have to you know, lift

472
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Speaker 1: a certain weight or lift a certain number of weights

473
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Speaker 1: or or or you know, the frequency has to be this.

474
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Speaker 1: And there's so many different scientific studies out now on

475
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Speaker 1: frequency and and timing of when you exercise and eating everything.

476
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Speaker 1: And it's I think we're we're thinking it a little bit.

477
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Speaker 1: I think it's, uh, you know, we need we need

478
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Speaker 1: to get out there and move um, you know, and

479
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Speaker 1: to the best of our ability for as long as

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Speaker 1: we can. And that's it. I think. I think, you know,

481
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Speaker 1: we shouldn't be overthinking, and I think we should just

482
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Speaker 1: find something we enjoys as well as the food. Find

483
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Speaker 1: the food that you enjoy and if it's working for you,

484
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Speaker 1: then stick with it. Right, thank you, and I want

485
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Speaker 1: and what I love about you. And as I started

486
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Speaker 1: the show by saying, is you know, we can look

487
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Speaker 1: at all the research and listen to these gurus who

488
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: make their living off second and third level stuff trying

489
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Speaker 1: to sound smart, and people eat that up pun intended

490
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: and it's it's not what's going to help them. It's

491
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Speaker 1: not you know, something that they consist Dane long term.

492
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: But the most powerful page. I used to say, or

493
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,719
Speaker 1: still say, in a magazine fitness magazine, are the success

494
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: stories or someone like you? And and now we do

495
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: it on the podcast. But to learn you know that

496
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Speaker 1: you started the way you did. And by the way,

497
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Speaker 1: I didn't finish what I was saying earlier. You're now

498
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Speaker 1: like in magazines, you're on TV. You're a fitness model

499
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Speaker 1: at in her sixties. And I've said it to you before,

500
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,959
Speaker 1: like I love showing your picture to friends of mine

501
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: and saying, how old do you think she is? And

502
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 1: I know it's it's cat whatever, but you know, and

503
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: it shouldn't. But it's just it's the fountain of youth.

504
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: And let's talk about that because one of the words

505
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Speaker 1: and things that almost drove me out of this business

506
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: years ago was bulk and women's fear of bulk. And

507
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Speaker 1: I think you would agree that lifting weights is not

508
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Speaker 1: only the fountain of youth, but not doing it women

509
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Speaker 1: are not achieving their best bodies, not even close. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I totally agree. And I think, Um, I mean what

511
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Speaker 1: happens to with the way train? Um, I mean, as

512
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Speaker 1: we age, you're the normal progression of human aging after

513
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Speaker 1: the age of thirty five, as you would know this.

514
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Speaker 1: We lose about a half a pound of muscle every year.

515
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Speaker 1: And not only are we losing the muscle, but we're

516
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Speaker 1: gaining about the pounds and a half of fat every year.

517
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Speaker 1: So if you're not to do anything, you just kind

518
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: of hang out and be sedendary and and you know,

519
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Speaker 1: not bother with any of the weight training. I mean,

520
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Speaker 1: I can't imagine if I got to see I was

521
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: thirty five years old, um, twenty five years ago, so

522
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Speaker 1: I can imagine I would look quite different now if

523
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Speaker 1: I hadn't been doing all the weight training. So I

524
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Speaker 1: think it just kind of going to show you, I

525
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: mean that it can be done. I mean, I do

526
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Speaker 1: this all naturally. I don't take pills, I don't take steroids,

527
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Speaker 1: I don't take any of this stuff. Is just healthy eating,

528
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Speaker 1: exercise and you know, poper sleep. It does work at

529
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Speaker 1: absolutely work. Isn't that crazy? And it is right? And

530
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Speaker 1: I love that you went there because let's be honest.

531
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: When I did natural bodybuilding. By the way, how did

532
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: they test you? For me? It was lie detector tests?

533
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure the guy who administered them. We

534
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: did do one year analysis, but I think I did

535
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: like six shows and five of them were lie detector tests.

536
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: And I would say, of the guys that competed against,

537
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: we're all on steroids. I don't know. I know it's

538
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,719
Speaker 1: different women, but how did they test you in Canada?

539
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: I'm just curious. You had you had the piano cup? Yeah, yeah,

540
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: you went there. Uh. And it's funny because Tom, one

541
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: of the reasons, like when I was bodybuilding and that,

542
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: you know, at the highest level that I thought I

543
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: would possibly get. Probably in my mind, part of the

544
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Speaker 1: reason I didn't go on is because that I knew

545
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Speaker 1: if I wanted to get any better in my category,

546
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Speaker 1: if I wanted to compete and end up at a

547
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: higher you know, with a higher standing, I would probably

548
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: have to go on steroids. Because the people were that

549
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: were standing beside me, many of them were. And then

550
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: these are the women in the figure category, um, you know,

551
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: fifty years old, four to five, fifty years old that

552
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: were definitely on steroids. And this is I did not

553
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: want to go down that road. I you know, I

554
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: don't trust it. I don't I wouldn't feel good about it.

555
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: I would feel deceitful, I would feel you know. Um.

556
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: So anyway, I just decided not to do that. It

557
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: just wasn't for me, and um, so yeah, I was

558
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: quite proud of myself that I got as far as

559
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,959
Speaker 1: I did, naturally, completely naturally. You and I are one

560
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: in the same and for the same reasons. I've never

561
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: done steroids. I've competed against not only in the bodybuilding

562
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: but as of you, um jobs, fitness jobs. There's so

563
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: many times in the past decades where you know, I

564
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: walked into an audition for something and just looked at

565
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: these guys like, okay, like, but what you said is

566
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: exactly my whole philosophies. I would never I mean, I'm

567
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: so grateful I never did, because I wouldn't feel honest,

568
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: you know, And I knew And that was another thing

569
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: when I met you. I've been in the industry a

570
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: really long time, been around the bodybuilders, and there are

571
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: people that did one round, two rounds, three rounds, and

572
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: you can tell the difference, right, In other words, you

573
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: build that muscle tissue, you look a little different, a

574
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: little off, right, um, And I knew with you that

575
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: you didn't and that you know, goes to so many

576
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: different things. As you said, So it's about being healthy

577
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: and listen to the professional athletes. God bless him, like

578
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm glad I'm not one, right because brings a whole

579
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: host of issues when he comes to that and performance

580
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,479
Speaker 1: and hancing drugs. But um yeah, you and I had

581
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: the same thing. Although let me give you so when

582
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: I want a really small competition and I went to

583
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: like this New York City Championships, I f B b

584
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: OR and PC and PC I think it was. Anyway,

585
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: My story is I walked out on stage and I

586
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: just heard my wife in the crash his girlfriend at

587
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: the time, she just said, oh s h. I t

588
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: like the guys I was up against. I looked so

589
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: tiny next to these guys that and I looked any good.

590
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: But they were superheroes, right, and I wasn't going to

591
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: compete with that, and that was okay. I wanted to

592
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: be healthy. So um yea world, it really is. And

593
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: I think, honestly, I think enough can go wrong with

594
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: your body as you age. I mean, you know, definitely

595
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: things can happen. Your organs can age, and things can happen,

596
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: and so that it can happen on its own naturally.

597
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: So why would you want to, you know, take chances

598
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: and start putting things into your body that could progress

599
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: that those chances of things, you know, nasty things happening.

600
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just wasn't. I wasn't going to go there,

601
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: wasn't into it. And I'm I'm like you, I'm so

602
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: thankful I never did right right, right right. And what's

603
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: what's next for you? Anything? Any projects you're working on

604
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: or well right now, I mean, I I've started my

605
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: own YouTube channel. Actually I was pretty excited about that. Yeah,

606
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: So I just started that in February and then we

607
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: went away on vacation and completely smoked my camera. We

608
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: got hit by a big wave and so there's both

609
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: my cameras for the YouTube. But we've actually just this

610
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: past week I've ordered another one on Amazon and so

611
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: now I've got I've got my camera back. So yeah,

612
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to be doing some YouTube and then um,

613
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: if we have the camera. My husband and I are

614
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: both into getting into some photography. So we're you know,

615
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: we're learning learning that and and it's it's quite amazing.

616
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: We're really enjoying it. And it is the channel up now,

617
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: can people go to it and and see what you

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00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: have so far? Yeah, I've only I've only got the

619
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Speaker 1: one video up go Okay, but yeah, absolutely they can

620
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: go to it. Yeah, and again I want you to

621
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: go to Linda's Instagram account. She's got a bunch of

622
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: videos of her working at home. She's got the great

623
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Speaker 1: home gym, and I just love I mean, everything we

624
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: talked about Linda is is things that people have to embrace.

625
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: That it's simplicity that you can eat, that you should

626
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: strength train. You're talking about, you know, sarcopenia, losing muscle mass.

627
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: We don't have to write. So if you rank train,

628
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: if you get inadequate amounts of protein, those two things.

629
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Speaker 1: As you and I get older, we can retain not

630
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: only you know, the muscle, but the function. Right. That's

631
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: why it's the fountain of you, is that you and

632
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: I can continue to do everything right. I mean, what

633
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: do you do for sports now and fun stuff? The

634
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: grand kids alone, right, being able to play with them.

635
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and and you know we like to travel

636
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: and we like to hike and and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: swim and do different things when we travel. And we

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Speaker 1: don't want to just boastit there on the lawn chair.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we want to be able to be

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Speaker 1: active and be out in the community doing and doing

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Speaker 1: what they doing that, that that's what makes life so

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Speaker 1: fun and interesting. And what would you give as advice?

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Speaker 1: I love that for people, like just the basic advice

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Speaker 1: to someone who comes up to you the cocktail party

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Speaker 1: and says, you know, what do I do? How do

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Speaker 1: I get started? Get? What are like three tips you'll

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Speaker 1: give someone like that who's just looking for that kind

648
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Speaker 1: of kick start? Well, I think I would for sure

649
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Speaker 1: say that you just need to start. You need to

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Speaker 1: find something that you're going to enjoy and and you know,

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Speaker 1: start with that. Um. I mean, if it was they

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Speaker 1: had to lose weight, I would definitely suggest a dietitian

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Speaker 1: or someone professional to help them out with that. And

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Speaker 1: even with the training, you know, as far as their

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Speaker 1: their you know, their fitness and everything goes. If they

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Speaker 1: wanted to do some bodybuilding, then you know, by all means,

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Speaker 1: seek out a really good certified personal trainer and you know,

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Speaker 1: go from there. Is sometimes I think another another suggestion

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Speaker 1: would be don't do too much too soon, because then

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Speaker 1: you can you know, you'll end up getting hurt and

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Speaker 1: you know, get yourself turned off of the whole fitness um,

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Speaker 1: you know, the whole fitness world. And that's not what

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Speaker 1: you want to do so you know, a good certified

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Speaker 1: trainer might help out there. Um, but yeah, I think it.

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Speaker 1: I think people just need to It starts in your mind.

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Speaker 1: I've always said that, you know, fitness starts in you

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Speaker 1: in your mind and continues in your heart. And if

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Speaker 1: you have the heart, you can do this for years

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Speaker 1: and years a long time. I love it. Yeah, if

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Speaker 1: you know, I bore people to death with the excessive

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Speaker 1: moderation term, but I love that. You know, they're starting

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Speaker 1: to use its social media. But but why do I

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Speaker 1: say it? Why do you say it? You know? And

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Speaker 1: I know that you and I look at people who

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Speaker 1: are doing too much and going on the fat diets

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Speaker 1: and we want to say we do say you don't

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Speaker 1: have to, and it's not sustainable. And and the problem

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Speaker 1: is that the industry books, uh, documentaries, Uh, they preach

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Speaker 1: that stuff. It's really hard to get a book written

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Speaker 1: that says, you know, exercise so you don't get sick,

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Speaker 1: exercise so you know you feel good mentally, you know,

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Speaker 1: and that's why you're doctor forty years ago. I want

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Speaker 1: to seek her out to see if she's still practicing, right,

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Speaker 1: Holy cow, I want her on this show. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: I love that because your story is so amazing. It's

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Speaker 1: so amazing that it started with shyness, it led to

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Speaker 1: self efficacy. You're feeling confident and who would have thought,

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Speaker 1: you know, at nineteen that you'd be in magazines and

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Speaker 1: on TV and thriving in her sixties? Right, and what

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Speaker 1: a eat example, Linda? Right? Right? And yes? And consistency,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's that's one of the keys

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Speaker 1: right there, if you have to be consistent, and that's

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Speaker 1: what you can't do with the fad diet and the

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Speaker 1: sad exercise is that you know you're going to try

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Speaker 1: something and if it doesn't work for you, then you

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00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: immediately or put off and you and you quit um.

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Speaker 1: Whereas if you can find something that you enjoy doing,

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Speaker 1: you can be consistent with that for years. So I

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Speaker 1: think that's what And we'll leave them with this. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you've seen the meme when I thought it was

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Speaker 1: so simple but so powerful. And it's just two plates

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Speaker 1: and it said, you know, one is filled with let's

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Speaker 1: just use the breakfast you had, right, eggs and sweet

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Speaker 1: potatoes and fruit, and the other plate is empty and

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Speaker 1: it says, you know, to lose weight. This is the

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Speaker 1: plate you want, and it's the one with food on it. Right.

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Speaker 1: That's how you lose weight and or become your your

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Speaker 1: healthy weight. It's not starving yourself right, And that's you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure people are blown away when they see you eat, right,

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Speaker 1: because they're like, oh my gosh, I didn't think, Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they can't believe how much I eat sometimes. Um, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: you need to feel your body. You have to give

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Speaker 1: it fuel in order so in order to help it work.

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Speaker 1: And is my my body is busy, it's it's active.

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Speaker 1: It has to be able to walk a lot and

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Speaker 1: lift the weights and do everything that I enjoy doing.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I have to give the nourishment that it needs.

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Speaker 1: For sure. I am so happy we got to speak

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Speaker 1: because we don't get to speak like this when we're

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Speaker 1: you know, on the shopping channels and got the two

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Speaker 1: minutes before we go live. And how long have you

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Speaker 1: been doing that, by the way, doing the shopping channel TV?

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Speaker 1: Like that? Don't maybe maybe four years now, I would say,

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Speaker 1: not that long. Really, do you think the nineteen year

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Speaker 1: old woman would have thought at fifty seven that you

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Speaker 1: would start a career in uh, fitness modeling? I mean

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Speaker 1: that's not at all. No, I never would have thought never,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's funny where life takes you. You have

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Speaker 1: to enjoy the right. And that's what I say, Linda

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Speaker 1: to people, is you know, uh, yes, I want you

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Speaker 1: to achieve your goals, but I want you to exceed

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Speaker 1: your goals. And as you said, just get started. And

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Speaker 1: it sounds that sounds so simple, but but it's just

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Speaker 1: get started and find that thing you like and then

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Speaker 1: eventually probably love because it feels good. Um, So thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for sharing your story. I learned

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Speaker 1: so much that I thought I had you Tom, thank

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Speaker 1: you for having me and everyone. I'm gonna say it

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Speaker 1: one final time. You can see in the description of

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Speaker 1: the show how to spell Linda's name, and I want

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Speaker 1: you to go h to the YouTube channel. She'll be

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Speaker 1: adding to that. But start with the Instagram, especially you women.

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Speaker 1: I get a lot of emails and social media d

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Speaker 1: m s about you know, people in their fifties, sixties women,

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Speaker 1: especially what to do and when is someone you can

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Speaker 1: learn from the Instagram. And I'll leave you with this,

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Speaker 1: I love Linda that you said, seek out a certified trainers,

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Speaker 1: seek out a nutritionist, in the Instagram world of people

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Speaker 1: who have no education, experience, just good genetics. Um, you

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00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: might not want to follow those people, right, follow us,

751
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: never more so than today, Right, But uh yeah, you

752
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: want someone like Linda who has literally you know, done

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Speaker 1: it for forty years with such a great way to start.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Linda. Have an awesome day, and uh I

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Speaker 1: look forward to we we have to do this again.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Tom, you take care of all right,

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00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: have a great day. Thank you so much, and we

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Speaker 1: will be right back. Thanks Linda. I always say it

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Speaker 1: almost every show, but I do have one of the

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00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: greatest jobs in the world. And one of the reasons

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00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: it is such a great job is that I get

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Speaker 1: to connect and speak with people like Linda who inspire me.

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Speaker 1: Inspire me as well. I mean, the goal is obviously

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Speaker 1: to have people on and of information that inspired you

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Speaker 1: the listener, but doesn't mean I'm not as well. And

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Speaker 1: I did not know her reason for starting exercise and

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Speaker 1: the progression that it started with being shy, and you

768
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Speaker 1: have to just embrace that that How many times will

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Speaker 1: I talk about Yes, weight loss is important and we

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Speaker 1: want to be our healthiest weight, but exercise is so

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00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: much more than that, and let me just go there

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Speaker 1: real quickly. As we wrapped this all up. Remember my

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Speaker 1: show on the Peloton commercial, Remember how you know it

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00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: was offensive to give your skinny wife a piece of

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00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:50,959
Speaker 1: fitness equipment. Maybe she was like Linda, Maybe she was shy,

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Speaker 1: Maybe she needed to build her confidence, and that was

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Speaker 1: part of the end of the commercial. By the way

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Speaker 1: she did it, she did it. Exercise is so much

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Speaker 1: more than what you see in the mirror, what you

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Speaker 1: see on the scale. And these are the guests I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna bring you. These are the only guests I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: bring you. And I have people reach out to me

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00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: all the time who obviously don't listen to the show,

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Speaker 1: you know, pr people for their you know, authors whatever,

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Speaker 1: fitness fill in the blank, and I'm like, absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: I'm having people on like Linda and David Garcia and

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Speaker 1: you know, the true scientists behind this stuff, who are

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00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: going to give you actionable advice based in science to

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Speaker 1: achieve your goals and to inspire you and to motivate you.

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Speaker 1: And I and the show being super motivated and inspired

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Speaker 1: by Linda because it makes me happy to hear such

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00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: a great success story. Then at fifty two. She started

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Speaker 1: competing at fifth eight. She became like you know, TV

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Speaker 1: fitness model, and she's super humble, and she's super healthy,

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Speaker 1: and she's a grandmother of six. And that's generally what

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00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: we talked about when I see her on set, is

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Speaker 1: she was having her six grandkid, uh one or two

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Speaker 1: times ago when we were together. It's just it's it's

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Speaker 1: so much more. And I hope you get that from

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Speaker 1: someone like Linda and you get inspired that whatever your goals.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure most of you don't want to

802
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: do a bodybuilding show, but you can find what you're

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00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: passionate about, what makes you feel good about yourself, and

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00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: that leads to so many other positive aspects of your life.

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Speaker 1: Fitness is connected to it all, and that's not what

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Speaker 1: we get from these articles about just weight loss or

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00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 1: is it this or that or or the second level

808
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: stuff is She talked about making it super complicated when

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Speaker 1: it's not. And I'm going to continually bring you guests

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Speaker 1: like Linda to show you that that is the secret

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Speaker 1: if you want to use that term, which I don't

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Speaker 1: like using, because the secret is there are no secrets.

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Speaker 1: Secret is to find what you enjoy to keep trying,

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Speaker 1: and then when you find it food exercise, you stick

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Speaker 1: with it, mix it up when you can. But it's

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00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: small steps forward. It's excessive moderation. It's doing a little

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Speaker 1: bit a lot, not a lot, a little bit. It's eating,

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Speaker 1: it's picking up heavy things, it's getting your heart rate

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Speaker 1: up in whatever way you want to do those two things.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you, thank you, Linda. We're taking the

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Speaker 1: time and and sharing your incredible story. Uh if you

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Speaker 1: haven't yet rated the show, please do so, and thank

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Speaker 1: you ahead of time. My Instagram and Twitter are the same.

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Speaker 1: Tom h Fit can reach out to me. Done a

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Speaker 1: couple listener mailbag shows. Now I will do more. If

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Speaker 1: you have any questions or topics, let me know, and

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Speaker 1: you go right to fitness disrupted dot com and you

828
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: can email me through that site. And finally, if you

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00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 1: are talking about the show or sharing pictures or anything

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Speaker 1: about the show, hashtag fitness disrupted and I will catch

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Speaker 1: it there as well. Once again, thank you, thank you

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Speaker 1: for listening. I feel so fortunate to be doing the

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Speaker 1: job that I am doing. My goal is simple to

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Speaker 1: help you have the best life. That's it. That's the product.

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Speaker 1: The product is exercise and all the great things that

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Speaker 1: come out of that, health and wellness, eating healthy things,

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Speaker 1: finding what works for you, having a great, long, happy life.

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Speaker 1: There are three things we control, how much we move,

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Speaker 1: what we put into our mouths, and our attitude. And

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Speaker 1: that's awesome. I'm Tom Holland. This is Fitness Disrupted, Believing Yourself.

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Speaker 1: Fitness Disrupted is a production of I heart Radio. For

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