WEBVTT - Brian Baldinger Joins to Break Down New Look Dolphins Offense 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:06.080 Two fires to Waddle stocked into the end zone of 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:10.159 Miami type pro tike window. They had to get that 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:15.400 touch down on that play. They give it. What is up, 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:19.560 Dolph fans and welcome to the Drive Time Podcast, part 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:23.560 of the Miami Dolphins podcast network, covering your team, your 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:27.560 Miami Dolphins. How's it going everybody? I am your host 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:31.040 Travis Winkfield, And on today's show, we reeled in a 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:34.760 big big fish. Brian Baldinger from the NFL Network is 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:37.120 going to join us to break down some exes and 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.680 ohs and talk new head coach Mike McDaniel, the system 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:43.440 he brings with him, how he could tweak that system 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:45.760 to fit his personnel here, and how we can see 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:48.920 the best versions of Tua and Waddle and others across 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:51.839 the offense. We had plenty of fun with Baldy, Plus 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:54.960 will break down the games of the three acquisitions of 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:58.560 the last week in River Cracraft Day Shawn Hall and 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:01.600 John Lovett from Some are in South Florida. This is 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:08.240 the Drive Time Podcast. So before we get to my 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.399 guest today, let's go ahead and run down these three 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:13.480 new acquisitions to the roster real quick with a little 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.840 bit of background on who they are and their game. 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.759 We touched on River Cracraft on the Coaches Announcement podcast 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:23.240 from Friday afternoon, but I wanted to do more than just, 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:27.160 you know, figuratively play the w s U fight song. 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:29.959 Though again I must admit there's a fair amount of 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.959 Washington or University of Washington stuff. I should say that 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:37.120 I see around the building and Javon Holland rocks his 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:40.080 UFO his organ stuff now and then. So seeing a 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:43.920 fellow coug does make this coude pretty happy. As for 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:47.080 his game, for Crai Craft, not a ton of NFL experience. 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:51.800 He's been in the NFL since, primarily as a special teamer. 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:55.360 He caught six passes in for the Niners team that 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:57.840 was really super banged up that year, and it earned 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.640 him a one year extension for one with thet But 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:03.400 he didn't catch a pass in twenty nine team at 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:05.560 the Broncos, and he made his first career catch back 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:09.080 in again with the Broncos. So seven career catches for 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.919 eighty five yards, twenty four career games, three kick returns 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:17.160 for forty three yards, and seventeen punt returns for eighty yards. 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.120 He sure handed he won't muff kicks and he won't 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:23.679 drop passes. That was his game at Washington State. We'd 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.280 put him in the either three to the field, which 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:29.440 is the closest receiver into the formation, or he played 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.200 all of the formation, but most frequently to the three 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.320 or to the two to the boundary and our spread 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.560 five wide air raid system, and then motion him and 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:39.400 find a way to get matchups for him in two 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:41.520 way goes and either hit him with a quick hitter 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:44.120 to move the chains over and over again, or if 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:47.000 he got a slower linebacker or safety on him, he'd 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:48.840 go up over the top for big place. But his 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:52.960 pro career has been almost exclusively on special teams. All 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:56.959 one five of his snaps last season we're on special teams. 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:00.320 In he played a hundred and twelve snaps on offense 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:03.440 and one six teen on special teams. Just eighteen total 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:07.079 snaps in nineteen five as a receiver, and then twenty 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:10.480 seven snaps on offense his rookie season with a d 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:15.320 eight snaps on special teams back in plus in his tape, 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:17.639 you'll see the same things every time. He's a very 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:21.200 advanced route runner in terms of setting up his routes 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.360 and making them all look the same. He'll use a 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:26.000 subtle lean or a step, or an armbar or a 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:29.080 head fake to sell you one direction, then cross face 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.600 the other way once he sees the hips flip and 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:35.440 he catches everything again, which showed up a ton on 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:39.240 his college tape, tons of contested balls, and man, he 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:41.360 had a way of pulling them all down. We had 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.840 multiple quarterbacks at w S you that just trusted him, 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.160 from Luke Fawk to Gardner Minshew to Ryan Helinski. It 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.880 just didn't matter. And so, knowing him as well as 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:52.040 I did with the Coogs, here's what I know you 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.040 can count on. He'll be where he's supposed to be. 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:56.200 He's gonna work as hard as anybody in the building, 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.400 and if the ball hits his hands, he'll catch it. Now, 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:03.120 we left off the coaching Announcement podcast on Friday talking 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:06.440 about the importance of relationships and the importance of maintaining 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:09.880 those relationships from year to year, and that was one 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.480 of my favorite parts of the announcement that coach McDaniel 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:16.480 emphasized keeping so many coaches on, even in roles that are, 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:20.200 you know, seemingly less on paper, but the importance of 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.680 the way they communicate, in the relationships they have with 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.839 guys on the roster and the coaching staff and all, 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:27.599 you know, all the way from head coach down to 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:31.360 quality control. That type of stuff really matters. Like here's 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:33.479 a good example. Maybe not a great example. It's not 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.160 the same thing at all, but for for my personal experience, 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:39.599 Caleb and Q in the kitchen staff, those are my dudes. 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.560 And when I found out they were moving, man, I 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.640 got really sad. Like Ultimately, what I'm saying is that 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:47.760 my favorite part of every day is the people I've 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.200 gotten to know in the building. And I think that's very, 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.039 very important, and Coach McDaniel clearly does too. But you 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:55.240 know what else is great. It doesn't just have to 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:57.800 be guys you have connections with from previous staffs or 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:02.960 previous roster, you know, connections. Hence some of the hires 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.400 we were fired up about, right, I mean, actually most 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:08.480 of the coaches McDaniel never worked on a staff with them, 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:12.040 like Frank Smith, Darryll Bevil, Sam Madison, Matt Applebaum. Then 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:13.840 you do have the guys that have like Wes Welker 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.680 and John Embrey on that Niner staff. Best man for 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:20.280 the job right next. A fullback, John Lovett spent the 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.359 season with the Packers, carried the football three times for 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:26.760 six yards, playing forty five offensive snaps with one and 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:31.080 twelve snaps on special teams. He entered the league with 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:32.920 the Chiefs as a U d F A and twenty 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.320 nineteen and was put on injured reserve and training camp 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:37.800 that year. He's played some tight ends and fullback through 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.560 his pro career, but he was a quarterback at Princeton. 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:44.040 Go look at John Lovett's Princeton highlights. They're pretty crazy. 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:46.680 It was an option heavy offense, lots of quarterback lead 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.400 in power where he did a lot of damage there. 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:51.800 He was first team All American and twenty eight team 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:55.080 Annie Walter Payton Award finalists. There he led the number 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:57.839 one offense in the IVY League, the fourth most points 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:00.240 in all of FCS, and actually had the six the 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:04.640 best completion percentage and FCS at sixty six point one percent. Now, 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:06.440 I can't imagine he'll be throwing too many balls, but 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:08.480 you get the idea. And the thing that stands out 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:11.080 on his tape is the quick feet. You watch him 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:14.600 play that you know, quarterback lead style offense, and you 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:16.719 wouldn't really expect that from a full back, but man, 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.720 those direct snaps. Not comparing it at all, but the 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.080 style of which he did that was similar to what 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.640 Levy on Bell for the Steelers was back in his prime, 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.600 where it was very, very patient back behind the line, 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.000 pick your spot and then go and hit the big 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.600 yards that way. And the reason he was so successful 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:34.680 was that he was so light on his feet that 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.200 he could get from gap to gap quickly and then 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.880 he's out there dropping his two pound shoulder on unassuming 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.479 defensive backs. In the IVY League. It's a tough stop 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.920 for those guys. So that'll be interesting to watch. How 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:49.320 does he utilize that quickness at a position where quick 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:52.799 is not typically synonymous with fullbacks. But he's got some quicks. 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:55.800 Some of the Packers tape I saw had him lining 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.640 up as a double y tight end as a twelve 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.840 personnel unbound onsta offensive line, where he would fire off 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:04.080 the ball and get some push and dent that line 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:07.200 of scrimmage. He's an intriguing player. We finished up here 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:09.880 with another intriguing player in Dave Shawn Hall. Now you 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:13.720 locked on Dolphins fans probably remember this name because I 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:15.800 was all about his game coming out of Texas A 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.480 and M. He was long. He's still his long, physical, 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.280 well built edge who had a really nice week at 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:23.400 the Senior Bowl and really blew up and head up 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:25.600 the draft boards that week. And going back to my 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:27.840 old tweets, I had him as a third round option 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:29.720 for the Dolphins that year and he would wind up 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:31.880 going in the third round to the Carolina Panthers. And 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:36.440 that was before Josh Bowyer's arrival. And this seemingly prototype 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:39.280 that has seen guys like a manual oddball Jalen Phillips 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.840 shack laws in these bigger edge defenders come into the fold. 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:46.160 He's six ft five to sixty five. He hasn't played 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.840 a game since twenty nineteen, a pretty rough rash of 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.960 injuries has prevented him from doing so. He was drafted 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.240 by the Panthers in the third round back in seventeen, 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.240 placed on I R in October, and he wound up 0:07:57.280 --> 0:07:59.920 on the forty Niners practice squad there with Mike mcdan, 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.880 John Embry and before Westmulker was there, and then he 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:07.160 was signed off the Niners practice squad to the Texans 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:09.840 a few weeks into the season. He then was placed 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.400 back on their practice squad, only to be signed by 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.720 the Eagles active roster in December, but he tore his 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.640 a c L on the final play in the final 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:21.080 game of that season, and it's been an uphill battle 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.680 since then. He signed with the Jets in but he 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.920 failed physical and was released four days later. Then wound 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.680 up on the Niners practice squad in December of that year, 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:33.200 signed a futurist contract, and then was released last July. 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.360 So a fresh start here with the Dolphins. Not a 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:38.480 ton of NFL tape to go off of just nine 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:40.960 tackles one and a half sacks in his career, but 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:43.880 man his college tape, there are things that worked for 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:48.880 him that work for guys on this line. Like an example, 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:52.080 we talk all the time about keeping yourself clean against 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:55.200 the quick game that is the modern NFL passing game, 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:58.319 and generating distance from the offensive line across from you 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:00.800 in order to give yourself a chance to elevate knock 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.040 footballs down at the line. Nobody had more of those 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.080 this year than the Miami Dolphins. But his length really 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.199 helps him to do that. He keeps his chest clean 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:10.760 and he also uses that length for a very very 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.920 nice long arm, which is basically one long arm locked 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.240 out to help you keep your outside arm free to 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:19.080 the edge to make plays on outside runs or end 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.000 a rounds or reverses, whatever the case may be. And 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:24.000 it helps him really set that strong edge in the 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:26.880 running game. And again he just dusted dudes all week 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:28.720 at the Senior Bowl. That's where I fell in love 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.960 with his game. It's evaluation season. Always fun to have 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:34.560 guys with high upside like this to work on. Get 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.079 him in the program and see if they stick. That's 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:39.160 what this time of year is all about before we 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:41.960 get into the new league year. So coach McDaniel and 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.480 his staff have that and plenty of other things to 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:47.040 work on and to help break down some of those things. 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:48.679 Where you're going to be joined next here on the 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:51.960 Drivetime Podcast by Brian Baldinger. You do not want to 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:53.960 miss that. Plenty of good stuff here coming up next 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:59.120 Drivetime Podcast presented by AutoNation. And we're back here on 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:02.640 the Drivetime Podcast presented by Auto Nation, and I am 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:04.719 thrilled to be joined by a man who gets us 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:08.840 all fired up every week with Baldy's breakdowns, especially when 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:12.200 talking Javon Holland to a tongue of blow, Xavian Howard 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.040 or really any dolphin. The list goes on, Baldi, how 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:19.000 you doing, man, Trav I'm good. I mean, I'm I mean, 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.079 I don't want to give away We're exactly where I'm 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.559 at right now, you know, after the season, but I'm 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:26.800 in a good spot. So you gotta kind of you 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.120 gotta kind of catch your breath and uh, kind of 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:31.640 regroup a little bit after, you know, twenty four weeks. 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.719 But I'm good right now, Travis. I'm it's I'm a 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:37.880 big fan of what Mike McDaniel has done everywhere he's 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.800 been and happy to share any sort of insight I 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:42.600 can with you. Well, that's why I wanted to get 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:44.600 you on here, because number one, you do so much 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.440 good work with the film that's really kind of unique 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.079 in the space out there, I think. And the number 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:51.720 two just you know, I had a chance to really 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.960 digest your breakdown of that Niners run game under McDaniel, 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:56.800 and so I wanted to kind of just get some 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:58.959 XS and O's expertise on here as well, have a 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:01.720 bit of a deeper dive to coach McDaniel does that 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.440 sound good for you. Yeah, let's do it all right, 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.240 here we go. So, coach McDaniel has been described as 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.480 kind of an out of the box thinker. Right. What 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.280 do you think it is about him that has earned 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:16.240 him that reputation as a guy who's out of the box. Well, 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:18.160 I think his background, you know, I mean, he's IVY 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:20.680 League educated, as you know, and you know it wasn't 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:22.920 much of a player, you know, to look at him, 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.400 you didn't think football was something in his DNA. But 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:29.400 he's kind of a football nerd is what he is. 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:34.520 But in a way that players gravitate towards him because 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:39.120 players know when they're around him that they can become better, 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.679 that he's going to make them a better player. And 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:45.120 you know, you know, sometimes you can be Mike Rabel 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:46.880 and you get the best out of players because you're 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.719 a great player playing for a great coach. And then 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:53.520 sometimes you can just be yourself and just go this 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:55.960 is what I see and this is what you can do. 0:11:56.000 --> 0:12:01.520 And I think sometimes Travis players need to know them 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.440 and they need to learn that they can become much 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:08.720 greater than what they are. And I think most players 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:13.160 want that found out about them. When, however, long your 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:17.720 careers are. They want to be told how they could 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.959 become better or great, and I think Mike has that 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.760 ability to do it. There was a great piece Peter 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.839 kingbro this that came out on Monday talking about how 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:30.320 Deebo Samuel kind of coach approach Deebo Samuel and said 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.280 we need more, not more of a leadership role, but 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:34.400 maybe kind of step up in that way. And he 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.160 wasn't talking about the raw raw stuff. Just be the 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.360 hardest worker, be the guy who when you're tired, you're 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.800 still putting forth that best effort. It was a great 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.319 blurb there. So we saw Deebo Samuel have a you know, 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.560 almost a two thousand yards from Scure much season this 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.520 year and you did a lot of that as a 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.319 kind of quasi running back. So you had that great 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.520 post about are the great video breaking down the Niners 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.240 running game? Why have those running games been able to 0:12:56.280 --> 0:13:01.480 get such consistent production regardless of who the back is. Well, 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:03.200 he's got a you know, he's got a long history 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:07.440 with with Mike Shanahan and then with Kyle and then 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:10.760 really what brought Mike Shanahan the run game that he 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:14.880 had in Denver? Alex Gibs. You never crossed paths with Alex. 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:17.640 I don't believe in Denver, but I I know Alex 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:22.320 Gibbs and I have seen Alex coach and Alex coach 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.840 is a little bit different than Mike, but the results 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:30.440 are the same in that what you're gonna get is 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:35.040 you've got those specific places you have to be that 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:37.760 you have to get to. And here's the reason why 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:41.120 when you do this, this is the result. And so 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:45.240 when Mike coaches the run game, he coaches every part 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:48.400 of it, the tight ends, the fullbacks, the running backs, 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.479 and he's gonna have a big say in the personnel. 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.800 There's a reason why Raheem Moster was in San Francisco. 0:13:56.320 --> 0:14:00.160 Me go through the list of backs, whether it's Washington, Um, 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:05.040 whether it's Cleveland, whether it's Atlanta, uh Tevin Coleman. There 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:09.959 there's a reason why certain backs really excelled in the system, 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:14.400 and there's a reason why the system has been highly productive. 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:19.080 And so what you do is you create a pattern. 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.320 You create could be the wide zone. You create a pattern. 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:28.440 And if you're playing against Fred Warner, you're playing against 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:32.280 Bobby Wagoner, you're playing against great middle linebackers. Luke Keithley, 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:36.320 you're playing against great middle linebackers. They don't they know 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:39.280 where the ball is going. Well, once they know where 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:42.240 the ball is going, then you break that pattern. That's 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.280 the trick of what Mike can do. He's gonna show 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:48.040 you this, this, this, and then he's gonna break it 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:51.600 and it's gonna be to the point where Luke Keickley, 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:55.040 a Bobby Wagoner, Fred Warner takes himself out of the play. 0:14:55.120 --> 0:15:01.520 They're not even blocked, and there is He understands how 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:06.120 the defense is going to react to what you show them. 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:10.280 And that isn't a playbook. That isn't okay, this is 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:14.480 you know slanty this, it's it's way deeper than that, 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:19.520 way deeper. And so when you know how a player 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.960 or players or defense is going to react to what 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:26.040 you show them, and then you give them something different, 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:28.160 then you got him. And then when you add a 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:31.200 play action passed to it, you know, then you can 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:35.240 get big chunk plays. And Mike is that nerve that 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:39.320 sits there in the film room and just traces those reactions. 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:41.480 A lot of guys don't have that patience to do it. 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:43.560 He could do it for twelve or fourteen hours a 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:47.600 day until he knows how you're gonna respond, and once 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:50.360 he knows the response, then he can build his running 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:52.480 game around that. So when you say it's more than 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:54.400 just the playbook, that's always a big part of that. 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.200 The twelve fourteen hours a day of tracing and finding 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:00.760 tendencies and breaking those tendencies. Is that like a feel 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:02.840 that he has like end game because a lot of 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.200 times people, I think a big disconnect for fans is 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:07.520 what a play caller and what it makes a good 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:09.600 play caller end game? What is it that makes him 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:11.600 a good play caller? You know, a guy that can 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:13.640 that can have the feel for what is happening and 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:15.440 make adjustments in game that will make him a good 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.520 play caller at this level. Well, it's it's it's a 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:20.120 lot of it is that is. You know, if you 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.120 look at a guy like Kyle Shannon, you look at 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.040 Sean McBay, you look at some of these play calls, 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:26.720 just look where they stand when they watch the game. 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:29.160 I mean there are twenty yards either behind the player 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:31.240 in front of the play they're either seeing it coming 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.360 at them or they're seeing it going away. Like like 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.560 I would watch the end zone copy of a play 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:40.160 from you know, from the NFL. So they're they're seeing 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:42.960 a game like that. But then you know, you listen 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.320 to some of these Wires or Kyle or Sean, like 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.160 they know what the defense is gonna do, and they 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:50.320 know when they have the right play call and where 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:53.560 they're gonna be and here it comes, you know, can't 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:55.720 it's not every play you know, there's there's a place 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:59.000 for it, and there's a feel for it. I think 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.760 Mike has said, I think has Shawn hasn't. Certain guys 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:04.720 have it and uh and when to pull that play out, 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:07.119 when to save it for the right moment in the 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:10.919 right game. And so some of these guys they're not 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:14.800 highly emotional people during the game. I mean they are, 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:18.000 but they're not. They're they're they're able to they're able 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:21.080 to calm themselves so that they're not too emotional getting 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:23.399 caught up with the referees and you know, and and 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:26.320 you know some of the things that can happen during 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.160 a game where they're just you know, takes some out 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:31.360 of whack where they're just becoming too emotional. Like, these 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:34.359 guys have the ability to keep themselves controlled so that 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.080 they can feel the game. You gotta feel it, see it, 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:41.800 and then react to it. I'm sure that that level 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.479 of expertise they feel certainly creates a level of comfort 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:46.560 to when it comes to kind of keeping those emotions 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:49.040 and check. And you know, we love to educate on 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:50.760 this podcast bad It's my favorite things to do and 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:52.600 that's why I love having someone like you on. So 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.600 two things I wanted to ask you about here. It's 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.280 it's play sequencing and then also all the motion and 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.520 misdirection they use. Let's start with to play sequencing here. 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:01.360 Can you just kind of give us a one oh 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:03.800 one on what that means and how I mean you 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:05.440 kind of answer this already a little bit, But how 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:11.680 exactly coach McDaniel use his play sequencing to his advantage? Well, 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.040 everything that he's that he will do during a game 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:17.399 or during a week get ready for a game is 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:22.679 going to set up everything else. Everything there's a way 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:25.480 to build, whether it's the wide zone, outside zone. We 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:27.320 all kind of know what that looks like, but it 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:30.359 could look different depending on who you're playing against in 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.560 what your personnel grouping is. But you know, I think 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.760 everything sort of comes off of that um you know, 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.600 But it's it's it's way deeper than that. And so 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:45.280 the movement of what you're showing the defense is very 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:50.560 specific to what you want to create and how you 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.919 want to get a rhythm going on offense. And the 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:57.720 rhythm starts really in the run game, you know, because 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:01.080 defenses are built to stop the r That's that's how 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:04.480 they think. And so how do you get first and ten, 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.040 how do you get six yards from first down? And 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:10.200 how important is that to the sequence of what you're 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:14.480 going to deliver? And so everybody obviously wants to stay 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:17.280 out of third and thirteen, We understand that. But if 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:19.640 you can stay out of that because of your play 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:22.719 sequencing to where your third and three to where you 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.720 can running, to where you can throw it to where 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.160 they have to be able to defend everything, knowing that 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:31.840 there could be a fourth down play that comes right 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.880 behind it, depending on down distant situation of the game, 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.639 UM analytics, all that stuff plays into it. Uh, it 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:40.920 could be a two place sequence on third and three, 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:44.080 and that's why you run. All those things are really important. 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:47.280 So we talk a little bit about how the misdirection 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:49.640 the motion that the place sequencing you mentioned there makes 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:52.000 it difficult on the defense as a guy that's played 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:53.639 on the offensive line a little bit, How does that 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:56.720 benefit the offense for those calls where you maybe can 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:58.679 get those false steps or maybe the eyes that are 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:00.920 kind of tracking the wrong direction, how does that help 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:05.320 the offense? Well, sometimes it's window dressing, and it's just 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:08.199 that it's just window dressing, just getting the defense to 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:11.040 take their eyes off the prize for a moment. But 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:14.000 sometimes there was a real specific purpose to that, to 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:15.679