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Speaker 2: That's good morning, Swirl. Then welcome to the NODK podcast

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Speaker 2: on the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, January twenty eighth. That

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Speaker 2: Skeith's rolling this morning with the Big Beat chef Trey Kirby.

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Speaker 2: I believe called clothes. Yeah, congratsates store for Trey Kirby.

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Speaker 2: Here this morning. Big news w NBA star Candice Parker

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Speaker 2: WNBA world. Yesterday, guys, before we get to the games. Yesterday,

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Speaker 2: we will absolutely start selecting and debating our let's be honest,

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Speaker 2: hilariously early All Star team. So we're going to do

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Speaker 2: that on Friday's Drop podcast, so make sure you subscribe

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Speaker 4: You know, We've gotten so many weggies lately. We need

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Speaker 2: Hmmm. Interesting, Yeah, because you're right, Lely, I mean, he

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Speaker 5: Look, he's going to be making your name on verticality.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that was worthy of an ejection either.

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Speaker 4: And you saw Anthony Davis, you know, he got shaken up.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, if we ever get a Sixers

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Speaker 5: He's down on the ground so often that he has

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Speaker 5: He started doing the something he's humping in the air

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Speaker 5: You know, he's just making it look even more like

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Speaker 2: even maybe a three to six matchup. Sign me up

430
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Speaker 2: for that. If we're gonna get games like this between

431
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Speaker 2: these two teams where there's not a lot of defense,

432
00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:34,840
Speaker 2: but my god, there's a lot of score.

433
00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, I totally agree with the skeets. Unfortunately for us,

434
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,280
Speaker 5: these two teams are done playing for the season unless

435
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Speaker 5: they somehow meet in the playoffs.

436
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Speaker 2: All three of them have been really fun.

437
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Speaker 5: You remember the first game between these two, it was

438
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Speaker 5: like one hundred and forty one to one hundred and

439
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,639
Speaker 5: forty or something like that. They decided to play a

440
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Speaker 5: little more defense the second time around, third time around, maybe.

441
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 2: A little bit in the fourth quarter here, I don't know.

442
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:55,920
Speaker 5: It was a fun game to watch though, too, just

443
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 5: a little bit overshadowed by the crazy ending of the

444
00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,680
Speaker 5: Lakers game, but this one was consistently great throughout. I

445
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 5: thought the Hawks obviously aren't on the Nets level yet,

446
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 5: but they're closer than you'd think. I think we saw

447
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,119
Speaker 5: a little bit of how the Brooklyn Nets defense can

448
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,879
Speaker 5: actually improve going forward. In this season, there was a

449
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,400
Speaker 5: play where John Collins got isolated on Harden in the post.

450
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 5: Harden takes a bump and then Katie comes down from

451
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 5: the corner smacks the ball out with a huge block.

452
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Speaker 5: And that, to me is how the Nets are really

453
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Speaker 5: gonna be a quality defensive team when it comes to

454
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Speaker 5: playoff time, because, yeah, they can bring in other guys,

455
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 5: they can bring in somebody to improve their Jeff Green spot,

456
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Speaker 5: because Jeff Green is obviously playing a ton of minutes

457
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Speaker 5: on a title contending team.

458
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 2: Again, how does it keep happening? The guy is what

459
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Speaker 2: a career for Jeff Green.

460
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Speaker 5: But nonetheless, you're gonna have Harden, You're gonna have Durant,

461
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,359
Speaker 5: You're gonna have Kyrie on the court, no matter what.

462
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Speaker 5: The key to them having a good defense is getting

463
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Speaker 5: a good effort from those guys. You see Harden giving

464
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,400
Speaker 5: up his body taking a bump from a bigger guy.

465
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 5: You see Katie willing to help. That's how the Nets

466
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Speaker 5: become a quality defensive team, or at least the team

467
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Speaker 5: that's good enough on defense that their offense can take

468
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Speaker 5: him home on the other side.

469
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, our next one here, I'll just ask it. I'll

470
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 2: just jump right into it. Who gets traded first, Bradley

471
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Speaker 2: Beal from the Wizards or Aaron Gordon from the Magic

472
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Speaker 2: Beale again forty seven I think it was last night

473
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Speaker 2: in another Wizard's loss, Aaron Gordon going through the motions.

474
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Speaker 2: If you cut any of that one a brutal, brutal

475
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 2: game from him, Trey, but you got beeler Age who

476
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Speaker 2: gets moved first?

477
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Speaker 5: Here, it definitely looks with your eyes, it looks like

478
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Speaker 5: it's gonna be Bradley Beal because, like you're saying, skates,

479
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 5: it happened again last night, forty seven points and the

480
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Speaker 5: Wizards lost by basically twenty points. I saw the tweets

481
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Speaker 5: coming through. I was as it was happening. This was

482
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Speaker 5: not appointment viewing for me. But you see him coming through. Oh,

483
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 5: Bradley Beal's got twenty four and the third he's got

484
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 5: forty through three quarters. I didn't even need to look

485
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Speaker 5: at the scoreboard to know that the Wizards were losing

486
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 5: by twenty because that's exactly what it is.

487
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Speaker 2: There's a great tweet.

488
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Speaker 5: From Law Murray, our athletic colleague, last night, who said,

489
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Speaker 5: in twelve months, we've seen so many pictures of Bradley

490
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 5: Beal just looking so said on the sidelines, to the

491
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 5: point where he was asked about it in postgame press conferences. San, Yeah,

492
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 5: I know I need to be better at that because

493
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 5: I know I'm going to be memed instantly anytime it happens,

494
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 5: and it seems to be happening a lot. He was

495
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 5: asked if he's frustrated, he says, is the sky blue.

496
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,719
Speaker 5: But the bigger quote I think that Fred Katz had

497
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 5: is that Beale says, it's tough.

498
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Speaker 6: We want to win.

499
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: I want to win.

500
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 5: This is why I stayed. I want to win here.

501
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 5: I figure this is the place I can get it done.

502
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,439
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's the case, but he did

503
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 5: sign a big extension October twenty nineteen, saying he wanted

504
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 5: to be part of this Wizard's team and that he

505
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 5: wanted to be part of the team that brings the

506
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 5: Wizards franchise back to respectability. I did see some big

507
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 5: names on Twitter talking about a potential auto Porter for

508
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 5: Bradley Beal deal, but there's no reason for the Wizards

509
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 5: to trade Bradley Beal right now. It's going to take

510
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 5: a huge package to get it done. That's why I

511
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 5: actually think Aaron Gordon is more likely to be traded.

512
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 5: He's on an eighteen million dollar deal this season, sixteen

513
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 5: million only next year, and the guy looks just totally

514
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,479
Speaker 5: disconnected from the mass. He's been playing out of position

515
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 5: for basically his entire career. Last night three points on

516
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 5: one of nine shooting, five rebounds, five assists, four turnovers.

517
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 5: He's kind of their point guard right now. The Magic

518
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 5: are struggling. If they're ready to be sellers, He's going

519
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 5: to be a trade target and Evan Fornie is going

520
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 5: to be a trade target. It's crazy, though, that Aaron Gordon,

521
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 5: he's still in the Magic right now. Has the guy

522
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 5: played the right position once his entire career, It's hard

523
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 5: to say. He's not a point guard, he's not a

524
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 5: small forward. They have him handle the ball a lot.

525
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 5: He probably needs somebody who can really set him up. Obviously,

526
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 5: Mark hel Foltz is injured right now, so that's not

527
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 5: a help for the Magic. But the Aaron Gordon experience

528
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 5: for Orlando seems to be coming to an end.

529
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Speaker 2: Would the Dallas Mavericks be interested in Aaron Gordon? Lely,

530
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 2: I know we talked to a lot about the MAVs

531
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,719
Speaker 2: and like Andre Drummond cause to show up their rebounding.

532
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 2: Could you see them like trying to make a deal

533
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 2: for Gordon and would that make sense to you?

534
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Speaker 4: Yes, So I may not have to look at the

535
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 4: numbers of Goose through the trade machine to see what

536
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 4: the Mavericks would have to give up in return. But

537
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 4: an athletic bag, I mean, that's what Aaron Gordon is,

538
00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 4: who can spread the floor, so he fits their offensive

539
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 4: mindset that he can shoot the three. I know right

540
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 4: now it's not great because he's got.

541
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Speaker 2: A career high thirty six percent. Yeah, I know.

542
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 4: For this, it feels it feels to me that if

543
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 4: he did go to a situation like that in Dallas,

544
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 4: I think his energy's attitude, all those things would improve,

545
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,959
Speaker 4: and I think he would be more productive. I mean,

546
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 4: there's definitely you know, you've got to be a buyer

547
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 4: beware there with Aaron Gordon, because we've seen him have

548
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 4: moments throughout his career, usually at the start of the

549
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 4: season where he starts on fire, it looks great, maybe

550
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 4: he's putting himself into All Star contention, and then he

551
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 4: sort of fades down the stretch, so that that's kind

552
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 4: of what you're risking there. But I think it is

553
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 4: also Aaron Gordon simply because he's got a more movable

554
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 4: contract than Bill. Bill's got. He's got technically two years,

555
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 4: that second year as a player option at thirty seven million,

556
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 4: which I mean, well, you know what, he maybe doesn't

557
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 4: opt into that. He's young enough that he could get

558
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 4: that five year whatever deal after that, the guaranteed year

559
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 4: that he has there, So I think so, I think,

560
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 4: I mean the Mavericks needs some help too. You know,

561
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 4: they had another loss there last night to the Red

562
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 4: Hot Jazz. But I think the Mavericks right now one

563
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 4: of those teams that are good but not really as

564
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 4: close as I need to be. And they've got a

565
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 4: couple of those interchangeable paces on the wings there that

566
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 4: I think Aaron Gordon, you know, for the most part,

567
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 4: is an upgrade. So it's just what they would have

568
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,719
Speaker 4: to give up. I mean, it'd be one of their

569
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 4: young ish players, that's the.

570
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 2: That's the thing I mean. I was looking at the Mavericks.

571
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 2: I was trying to work that trade machine they don't have.

572
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: You know, you're obviously not moving a looker, You're obviously

573
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 2: not moving a KP so then you're like, you're getting

574
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: into some of these other guys, like I think, to

575
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 2: make it work, it's either got to be like a

576
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: James Johnson his contract or a Dwight Powell or a

577
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 2: Maxi Kleeber, you know, one of those guys to the Magic.

578
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 2: Then you got to it's got to be sexier than that,

579
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 2: I would assume. So, like, I don't know, are you're

580
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: throwing in your recent draft pick in Tyrell Terry. He's

581
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 2: a point guard, He's a smallish guard the Magic need

582
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: and another one of them I don't know, And then

583
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 2: it would have to be like a future pick or two, right,

584
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: because the Magic don't have a lot of their like

585
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 2: you know, immediate first round picks, with a lot of

586
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,959
Speaker 2: them going out in the KP trade. So I mean

587
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: is that I just also don't know what Aaron Gordon

588
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: even gonna be worth, and like what you're actually gonna

589
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: get back in for. I don't think it's going to

590
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 2: be all that impressive. I'm being honest, but I think

591
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 2: the MAVs would do something like that if it was

592
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 2: James Johnson and a super future pick, and maybe it

593
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: is Terry, I think they would do it. I just

594
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: don't know if Orlando would. But I also think he

595
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: should just get the hell out of there. I think

596
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 2: both parties. I think it just makes sense to get something,

597
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 2: even if it is future first round picks, and have

598
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 2: him move out. He's not going to be that your

599
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: future four or three or wherever the heck they want

600
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: to try and slot him in. He's just not He's

601
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: a fine player. He could be like a Wigans type

602
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: guy in the right situation where he's asked to do

603
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 2: a little bit less. I think he could really flourish.

604
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: But I don't know what you think about James Johnson

605
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 2: Tyrell Terry in a twenty twenty five or a twenty

606
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 2: twenty seven pick. Is that exciting to you as a

607
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 2: Lano Magic possible fan?

608
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 5: There, Drey, let me get Brent Rose and Grin on

609
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 5: the phone to see if you be fired up about

610
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 5: Tyrell Terry. You're talking about a bag of beans right there.

611
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 5: To be honest, it's all about the picks, which maybe

612
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 5: is the best move for the Magic. Maybe they move

613
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 5: Gordon for picks, Maybe they move Fournier for a pick

614
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 5: as well. Terrence Ross is somebody that should probably be

615
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 5: in demand a little bit though he's got a few

616
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 5: years left on his deal. There are some pieces that

617
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 5: seem like they could help contending teams more so than

618
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 5: they're helping the Magic. And maybe that's a way that

619
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 5: the Magic can get to their next era of whatever

620
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 5: they're gonna be. I mean, I guess they're in the

621
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 5: Nikola Vucevic era right now. He's gonna somehow beat the

622
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 5: Orlando Magic all time leading scorer in.

623
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: About a season.

624
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 4: So I don't know.

625
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 5: I don't think it's a I don't think it's happening

626
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 5: with him as a title contender right now. But they're

627
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 5: gonna have to start thinking about the next moves pretty soon.

628
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,479
Speaker 2: And then let's go back to Bill Heree. I got

629
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: an offer for you, a team that he's been linked

630
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: with a ton and they continue to lose, and we're

631
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 2: gonna get to them in a second though, the Miami Heat.

632
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 2: Pat Riley could he come in here and make a

633
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: deal to the Washington Wizards that makes sense for both

634
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 2: squads here. They obviously get Bradley Bealt. That's a huge thing.

635
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: If you're pairing him with Jimmy and Bam. I think

636
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: that's a hell of a threesome right there. You know

637
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 2: decent ages too. I know Jimmy's a little bit older

638
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: than the other two, but that's not bad. You just

639
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: went to these finals. There's something there to take. Tyler

640
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: Hero has to be in it. I think you have

641
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: to be giving up on Tyler Hero if you're the

642
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: heat to get Beale right now? Okay, probably going to

643
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: be taking the expiring contracts of like Kelly olynnok uh

644
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 2: igodala uh. Probably to make the money work. And then

645
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: and then it gets interesting. Then are the Wizards like,

646
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: oh yeah, we also want either Duncan Robinson or your

647
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 2: rookie Precious Achua. And then of course we want some

648
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: picks too down the line because that he don't have

649
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 2: a lot of picks and media picks coming up too.

650
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: They would have to be like again, twenty twenty five,

651
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: twenty seven, maybe one or both of those. What do

652
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: you think of that deal? Leally, that's you know, that's

653
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 2: a lot and I won't even say both of those guys,

654
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: either Duncan or Precious Tyler, Kelly andre and then future

655
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: future picks for Bradley Beal.

656
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's one of Hero Will Robinson. You're

657
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 4: not going to give up both if you're the hate.

658
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: Okay, because so let's say it's precious, then you're getting, yeah,

659
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: who look great.

660
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 4: I think the Heat would do that because I think

661
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 4: that does give them a chance again to go back

662
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 4: to where they were last season and get back. I mean,

663
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 4: Beal is a proven all star in this league. He

664
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 4: improves the team and and yeah, it cost you one

665
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 4: of you young guys, but it's worth it because the

666
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 4: Heat of the Heat sort of always kind of in

667
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 4: win now mode. But they certainly are with Jimmy Butler

668
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 4: and they want to make sure that, you know, they

669
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Speaker 4: surround him with the talent that he expects. Of course,

670
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 4: we heard they were going to pursue Janna Sante Tokupo.

671
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 4: That can't happen anymore. They did sign Bam to his

672
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 4: long term deal, so they took care of their business there,

673
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 4: and I think it does improve them. And I think

674
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 4: they probably look right now and think, you know, last season,

675
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 4: things did bounce right for them in the bubble. They

676
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 4: had a great performance down there, but they are not

677
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 4: maybe as quite as good as they were and they

678
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 4: need to improve. And if a player of Beal's caliber

679
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 4: is available, yes, I think you make that deal. I think,

680
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 4: a sure, he looks fine, but it's a rookie. It's

681
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 4: hard to really tell. And here on Robinson, whichever one

682
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 4: you're prepared to give up on, I think it's like, well,

683
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 4: Beal is better than those guys right now for sure,

684
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 4: So it puts us in there. Iguodala, I mean yeah,

685
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 4: if they have to give him up to make the

686
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 4: money work, I think they would be prepared to do that,

687
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 4: even though they would be reluctant because I think they

688
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 4: like to have his leadership and his veteran presence on

689
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 4: the team. But you know, you're improving by having Bale

690
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 4: on the team. So I think the heat, I think

691
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 4: that's not a bad deal. I think there is something

692
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 4: there as far as I picks. Who knows exactly what's

693
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 4: going on there. But if you're the Wizards as well,

694
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 4: you might as well you might as well cash and

695
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 4: try to get some young players because well, well.

696
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: That's the interesting part. Is Tyler Hero enticing enough to

697
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: build a trade package around for the Wizards from their

698
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: side of things, or would they like prefer like no, no, no,

699
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: give me four or five you know, first round picks,

700
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 2: like more like go that route? Or is it like, Okay,

701
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: Tyler Hero and even Precious those are two good players.

702
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: Like Tyler Hero is twenty one, right, I mean Teller

703
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: Hero could be Bradley Beal for all we know in

704
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 2: four or five years. Right. That's where I'm like, I'm

705
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: curious what the Wizards think of trying to get something

706
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: back and they made and look, bal hasn't asked to

707
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 2: be traded. They may not want to trade them. Trey

708
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: said it. I mean, why, you're the Wizards, so you

709
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 2: might as well just have a guy in your team

710
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: scoring forty forty five night. At least you're still in

711
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: the news. You're not winning games, but you're still of note.

712
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: But Miami has no draft inventory. Really again, that's really

713
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: really future on when we're getting into twenty twenty seven.

714
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: But Tyler Hero is a hell of an intriguing player,

715
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: and I know, I'm sure some Heat fans are even like,

716
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: no way, like there's that in love with Tyler And

717
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: you know, you fall in love with your own guys

718
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: for sure, especially you're young guys who could be a Bielle,

719
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: a Booker or whatever Tyler Hero turns into. But I

720
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 2: don't know the killer bees there, Trey, if you're the

721
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: Heat in Beale, Butler and Bam. That's a hell of

722
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: a good three, I think with other obviously some pieces

723
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: still around in drugge and.

724
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 6: Stuff like that.

725
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 5: The Big Bee I would be into it, and I

726
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 5: think it would be a genius move for the Heat,

727
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,239
Speaker 5: to be honest with you, they love chasing stars. There

728
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 5: are people in the treams in the dream stream. That's

729
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 5: a new one the dream stream anyways, in the stream

730
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 5: team suggesting the Heat are gonna be contenders for Victor

731
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 5: Oladipo this summer, So that's probably that's a way that

732
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 5: you can bring in a quality player without having this

733
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 5: ship out some of yours. But Bradley Beal is better

734
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 5: than Victor Oladipo, I would say. I think if you

735
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 5: get him in a place where he's playing hard on

736
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 5: the defensive end as well, where everybody's committed, he's gonna

737
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 5: give you effort on that side. And I think he

738
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 5: really bridges the gap between Jimmy Butler and Bam out

739
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 5: of Bio right because Butler is certainly older than at

740
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 5: a Bio and his Butler tails off. We assume Bam

741
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 5: will be a scendant if there's another guy alongside those

742
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 5: two who's kind of right in the middle of him

743
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 5: age wise, that could.

744
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: Be very nice for Miami. We will see, but I

745
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: agree with you to go back to the what you got.

746
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: I think Aaron Gordon is getting moved soon. I got

747
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: no intel on that. That's all pure feeling. But uh,

748
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: if you watched him go through the motions there. Last

749
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: night I was watching some of that Magic game. Yeah,

750
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: it's just there's something going on and it makes sense

751
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: again for both parties. But we'll see, all right, next one.

752
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 4: It wasn't a Kings and Magic last night. You're watching

753
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 4: that with all those others.

754
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: My eye on everything. The guy I'm working, man, I

755
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: know Iza doesn't believe.

756
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 5: Why are you being such an elitist here? You won't

757
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 5: watch a bad team. You're too good for a bad team.

758
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 4: I mean, the Kings are fun to watch, but the

759
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 4: Magic County.

760
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: You hate Vucevic. Yeah. Look, I'm not saying I watched

761
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: all forty eight minutes of it. I just as I

762
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: was seeing some some things going around about Gordon. I'm

763
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 2: just fascinated by Aaron Gordon getting moved, and I think

764
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: it's going to happen. I've been sort of tweeting that

765
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: for the last couple of while last years, yeah, well yours, yeah,

766
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: next one here? More surprising start, The Calves are the

767
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: thunder lead because the Calves took care of the Pistons,

768
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: they improved at nine and nine and the Thunder baby

769
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: Canadian Thunder played well down the stretch. They beat the Sons,

770
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: who are without Booker, but beat the Sons. Chris Paul

771
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: at a good game and okay, so he's eight and nine.

772
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: Al Horford, I did I Horvord have a triple double?

773
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: I think, uh yeah, a great line.

774
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 6: I know that.

775
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: So what's more surprising? The Calves are the Thunder. Both

776
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: these teams people thought might be the worst teams in

777
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: the league.

778
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I guess we shouldn't be surprised that the

779
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 4: Thunder are pretty competitive because last season I think people

780
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 4: thought as well that they probably wouldn't make the playoffs

781
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 4: and when Chris Paul wasn't going to stick around, but

782
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 4: he did and they played well. And I think that's

783
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 4: the sort of mentality that Les sam Presty brings to

784
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 4: his team. He's like, we're not tanking. Okay, I've got

785
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 4: a ton of draft picks here. But if you're on

786
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 4: the team, I expect you to play hard and to

787
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 4: play well. And you know they got Gildas Alexander and

788
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 4: the big Paul George deal, so you know he's a

789
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 4: part of their future, and they're just playing good, consistent,

790
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 4: steady basketball. Again, I think clearly the calves at nine

791
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 4: or nine, even though it's five hundred, it feels like

792
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 4: they're much better than that because they've been quite a

793
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 4: story this season, and even though they only beat the

794
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 4: Pistons last night, there's something believable about the Cavs right now.

795
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 4: Whether or not it will last, I'm not sure, and

796
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 4: certainly you know they will regress at some point throughout

797
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 4: the season, but it feels as though this is more

798
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 4: than just a one or two week flurry here from

799
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 4: the Caves. It feels like they are a team that

800
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 4: is at least going in the right direction with their

801
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 4: young sex Land backcourt, and of course Andre Drummond, he's

802
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 4: been very, very good for them this season. So I

803
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 4: think the fact that they are I mean, again, they're

804
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 4: nine to nine and the Thunder around the eight and nine,

805
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 4: so they've basically got identical records. But it just feels

806
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 4: to me that if you had said this to me

807
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 4: at the start of the season, which team is going

808
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 4: to have a better season? I would have just been

809
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 4: instantly like, well, the Thunder, the Thunder, of course, because

810
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 4: I just it just feels like even.

811
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 2: Though we said, okay, see, looked like to be the

812
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 2: only team in the Western Conference that might actually lean

813
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 2: into the tank because we were saying that, when the

814
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: season started going, looking at every other team, We're like, no,

815
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 2: the Wolves don't want to tank. Now, the Kings don't

816
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 2: want to tank. You know, we went through all of

817
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 2: them and said, okay, see, okay, that one makes sense.

818
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 4: They might yeah, but you know, competitive players and Al

819
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 4: Whole and George Hill there, Dort, I mean, Dought's a

820
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 4: fun god to watch.

821
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: Just see hit that three late last night, the Dort

822
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 2: dumb three.

823
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 5: The guys shut it and then instantly hit the squad

824
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 5: as it was going, I was dying.

825
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 4: But yeah, like I said, the Calves, I thought we're

826
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 4: going to be boring and not very good, and they've

827
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 4: been the complete opposite of that. So it's the Calves

828
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 4: for me for sure.

829
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 2: That was a tough one more surprising start tray. Where

830
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 2: do you go? Calves are thunder I'm with Lee on

831
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: this one.

832
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 5: I do think it's the Calves because it feels it

833
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 5: feels like it's gonna last, at least as long as

834
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 5: Andre Drummond is around there to clean up the boards,

835
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 5: clean up the mistakes, and be a present inside because

836
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 5: the forcing turnovers is working, the playing fast is working.

837
00:35:59,040 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 6: For the Calves.

838
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 5: They are probably still catching teams off guard a little

839
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 5: bit with the way they're playing, but it's certainly working

840
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 5: for him. And you know this is it's a young team, obviously,

841
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 5: but it also has some established players or guys who

842
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 5: have been around at least for a couple of seasons,

843
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 5: to the point where you're like, is Darius Garland really

844
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 5: going to improve? Is Colin Sexton really going to improve?

845
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,959
Speaker 5: We've seen what Andrea Drummond has done on a bad team,

846
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 5: but these are guys who have completely changed my perception

847
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 5: of him this season. Whereas the Thunder, I just don't

848
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 5: know how it's happening. I don't understand how they're able

849
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 5: to start Isaiah Roby every single night and then go

850
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 5: out there and look like an incredible team. They're all

851
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 5: tied together. Defensively, Shay has been great, like I have

852
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 5: always said, he's a future All Star out there. I

853
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 5: don't know if it'll be this season or next season,

854
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 5: but maybe the one after that he could get in

855
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 5: the mix. But he has been playing incredibly well. The

856
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 5: Thunder look great, The Cavs look great in a couple

857
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 5: of months. Are we saying this when there have likely

858
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 5: been trades for both these teams?

859
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: Maybe not.

860
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 5: Some team has to actually be the worst team in

861
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 5: the league. Doesn't look like either of these ones, though,

862
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 5: and they would have been good bets end of the season.

863
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 2: Yeah again. Tune into tomorrow's Drop podcast to see whether

864
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 2: or not Trey and I fight over SGA being included

865
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: on our early All Star team. Will you you got

866
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: him as a starter?

867
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 7: No?

868
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 2: That starter. We're doing the whole We're doing the whole

869
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: thing tomorrow. We're going We're going for lost tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah,

870
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: I was thinking about it though. I hate to say this,

871
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 2: but it's always true. Like the CJ McCollum injury to

872
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: him with the Blazers there, I was like, Oh, that

873
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: might actually help SGA actually making this team for real.

874
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: But anyway, as long as they keep winning, he's gonna

875
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: make that All Star team. I'm gonna keep saying it

876
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: because he was great again down the stretch, setting up

877
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 2: guys and hitting some key shots. I do worry with

878
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: the Calves. Is there a and I remember you always

879
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: talking about this back in the day, Tray, Is there

880
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 2: any concern that the Calves right now are doing? Like

881
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: I think it was like the twenty thirteen fourteen Suns

882
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 2: where they like totally like blee expectations out of the

883
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: water and they were playing so well. That was ere

884
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: where they want a ton of games. We just missed

885
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: out on the playoffs, still in a loaded West, and

886
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: then they're like, oh, it's our team, let's run it,

887
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: let's go with it. And it was like, oh, that

888
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: ended up backfinal. Like I guess my point is, like

889
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 2: we talked a lot about the Calves moving, Drummond moving

890
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 2: some of these other things. They're not gonna move like

891
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: sexon or stuff like that. But like, are they gonna

892
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: win too many games here where they're like refuse to

893
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: move on from some of these guys. Is that an

894
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 2: issue or no? Because it's just Drummond, like they're not

895
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 2: moving a chorl. They're not moving sex, and they're not

896
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: moving Garland, so it doesn't matter like what do you think.

897
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 5: That's a great question because Drummond has been instrumental to

898
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 5: their success, but bringing him back definitely feels like a phoenix.

899
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 5: Son's trying to get back to the playoffs and move. Clearly,

900
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 5: the best move for them long term will be moving

901
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 5: him for a player who helps in a couple of years,

902
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 5: or some picks that are going to be movable as well.

903
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 5: Whatever they're able to flip him is really going to

904
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 5: be what Drummond brings. How Drummond brings value back to

905
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 5: the Calves despite the fact that he has been incredible

906
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 5: for him this season. They said heading into the year

907
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 5: that they wanted to accelerate the rebuild. I don't know

908
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 5: exactly what that means, but it feels like the rebuild

909
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 5: has been accelerated, but bringing back on a huge deal

910
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 5: would be bad news Bears. I do think apparently they're

911
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 5: trying to move Kevin Love as well. There has been

912
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 5: a little bit of a drama with regards to are

913
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 5: they going to buy them out, are they not going

914
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 5: to buy them out? Or teams really interested? Are title

915
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 5: contending teams interested in trading for them? But they've got

916
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 5: some pieces that could can help them eventually in the future,

917
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 5: even if they're going to take a little bit of

918
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 5: a step back here, it'll be weird. I think if

919
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 5: the Calves are one of the success stories in the

920
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 5: first half of the season, then they trade one of

921
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 5: the guys who's been part of that success. But maybe

922
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 5: it's the smarter move in the long term.

923
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we will see. That's a fun one for

924
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: you guys out there. More surprising start the Calves or

925
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 2: the Center final one here. More concerned about these two teams,

926
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: The Mavericks are the Heat. The Mavericks got punked by

927
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: the Red Hot Jazz Jazz one ten straight. So Mavericks

928
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: fall to fall in eight and that was like basically

929
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: a full squad there for the Mavericks. They had both

930
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 2: of their star players of course in that loss, and

931
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: they got embarrassed. The Heat still without some of their

932
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: best players. We got to add that in there. They

933
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 2: lost big to the Nuggets at home. They got embarrassed.

934
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 2: They're six and eleven now, So of these two teams

935
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: that we both expected to be really really good teams.

936
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 2: You know, at the quarter mark here, Trey, who are

937
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: you more concerned about, Dallas or Miami.

938
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 5: It's barely the MAVs over the Heat. For me, here

939
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 5: both teams have kind of been decimated by health and

940
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 5: safety protocols, but I think it's been a little bit

941
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 5: worse from the Heat for the Heat because they've only

942
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 5: gotten six games from Jimmy Butler, whereas the Mavericks have

943
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 5: gotten seventeen from Doncic.

944
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: And that's why to me, their problems.

945
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 5: Just see a little seem a little bit more ingrained

946
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 5: than the Heat does, because you assume the offense and

947
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 5: the defense are probably gonna get better whenever Jimmy Butler's

948
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 5: able to be on the court with them again.

949
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 6: Time is the enemy for the Heat.

950
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 5: It's a matter of are they going to lose so

951
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 5: many games in the meantime waiting for Jimmy Butler, waiting

952
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 5: for all of their players to get back on the court,

953
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 5: that they're behind the eight ball trying to catch up.

954
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 5: The problem for Dallas is offense. They're fifteenth overall right now.

955
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 5: They're down nearly seven points per one hundred possessions off

956
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 5: of last year's pace, when people were calling them the

957
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 5: greatest offense in the history of beast ball. They're thirtieth

958
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 5: right now in three point percentage. Donk is struggling twenty

959
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 5: eight point five percent, porzingis twenty nine point four percent.

960
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 5: After that, it's like, not great shooters on this team.

961
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 5: So you're wonder who's going to actually be the three

962
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 5: point shooters that really bring the Mavericks back to respectability

963
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 5: because they have to be incredible on offense because they're

964
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 5: not gonna be good enough on defense. I don't think

965
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 5: from what we've seen Tim Hardaway is shooting the ball well.

966
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 5: You got to keep him out there. Josh Richardson it's

967
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 5: kind of struggling. Seems to follow him around from Philadelphia

968
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 5: to Dallas, bringing down the three point percentage. It just

969
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 5: doesn't feel like there's a way for the Mavericks to

970
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 5: get to the elite status that they could have possibly

971
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 5: been into this season. I think the Heat will be

972
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 5: back there whenever they get all their guys together. We'll

973
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 5: see if they make any sort of Bradley Beal trade

974
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 5: or something like that. But the Mavericks seem a little

975
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 5: bit more precarious to me right here.

976
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lee, you got two giant buttons in front of you,

977
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: one panic button for the MAVs, one panic button for

978
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 2: the Heat. Which one are you slapping.

979
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 4: First, Yeah, it's the Mavericks because, as Trice sort of says, there,

980
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 4: I feel when Jimmy Botley gets back, there's just a

981
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 4: certain level of like confidence that I have that Miami

982
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 4: will be able to sort of lock in, get a

983
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 4: few wins under their belt and move forward. Whereas the

984
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 4: Mavericks with pausingis and Doncic right now that you know,

985
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 4: this is basically their two best players. And I think

986
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 4: I think teams are basically loading up on Doncic a

987
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 4: little bit more and saying, like, you know, because he's

988
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 4: averaging virtually a triple double and he's got such a

989
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 4: heavy workload for that team that teams are kind of like,

990
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 4: we can pretty much live with everyone else on the

991
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 4: mass even pausingis for now until he sort of really

992
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 4: gets to his full strength. That the Mavericks are beatable.

993
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 4: And and you know, the Heat obviously again they get

994
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 4: punk last night at home, but it begains a good

995
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 4: team in the Denver Nuggets. But I really feel that

996
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 4: the Mavericks need to change their personnel, whereas the Heat

997
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 4: have just got to get their players back from injury.

998
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 4: That's that's the concern for me, that this is going

999
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 4: to be one of those seasons that even if Doncic

1000
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 4: continues this incredible season and maybe he averages a triple double,

1001
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 4: it's like they could finish tenth in the Western Conference still,

1002
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 4: So they need to improve some of their supporting players.

1003
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 4: Whereas the Heat just it just feels like once they

1004
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 4: get everyone back, they'll be okay. I just I just

1005
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 4: feel that about them because we've seen it. Whereas you know,

1006
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 4: for Dallas, it's like, what is pausing us?

1007
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: Is he?

1008
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 4: Is he really that number two guy that the map

1009
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 4: is a unicorn?

1010
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: He is?

1011
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 4: And look, you know we've seen him have some incredible games,

1012
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 4: There's no no doubt about it. But you know, is

1013
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 4: he a long term viable option there to really pair

1014
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 4: alongside Luca that they can score a fine but can

1015
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 4: they defend?

1016
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: And that?

1017
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 4: And that's the thing. And again I think teams look

1018
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 4: at don Chic and they go, look, this guy is

1019
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 4: a legit star, So let's pile up on him, make

1020
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 4: him work so hard on both ends of the floor

1021
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 4: that he just can't carry his team when you're relying

1022
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 4: on your Tim Hardaway's and your Dorian Phinney Smiths and

1023
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 4: Trey Burk's to be the guys who like, Okay, those

1024
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,479
Speaker 4: guys need to all be firing to keep the MAVs

1025
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 4: in a game. So yeah, I definitely think it's the

1026
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 4: MAVs who have got a little bit more to concern

1027
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 4: than the heat at this point.

1028
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see which one of these teams blinks first.

1029
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: Maybe in regards to making a trade too. As we've

1030
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: talked about in the past, both of those squads I

1031
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 2: think could shake it up and try and go get

1032
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 2: one of these sort of bigger names that could be

1033
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 2: had I think for the right deal. But they both

1034
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: of them don't have a lot of draft picks. That

1035
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: is one issue, especially in trying to get a guy

1036
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: like Beale. They just don't have a ton. They've already

1037
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: swapped them out for other deals. One thing from this game, though, Trey,

1038
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: We'll go to beef.

1039
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 5: Twenty nine points for Rudy Gobert, but more importantly twenty rebounds,

1040
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 5: so we absolutely, positively, without a doubt, had to do

1041
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 5: it to him. Jd Roll that beautiful beef footage.

1042
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 6: Rudy Gobert grabbed twenty rebounds. That's a lot of roast beef.

1043
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 6: Oh contrare, it's a French dip.

1044
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: No dugs.

1045
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 6: We love roast beef, which is rebounds.

1046
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh.

1047
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, a stylish beef from Rudy Gobert. I'll say this

1048
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 5: is the best beef of the season. So guy's ripping

1049
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 5: him out of the hands of the opponents. He's putting

1050
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 5: the Dennis Rodman like legs up.

1051
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: Flare.

1052
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 5: You saw that sweet behind the back dribble he did

1053
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 5: on the outlet pass.

1054
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 2: Very funny.

1055
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 5: There's also a clip in there where a ball just

1056
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 5: falls out of somebody's hands at the free throw line.

1057
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 5: He grabs it somehow that's a rebound. It doesn't matter.

1058
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 5: We're blessed with any beef. I love this one from

1059
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 5: Rudy Gobert. Watching these rebounds is making me a better

1060
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 5: basketball fan, because once it gets down to it, you're like,

1061
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 5: You're like, I'm focusing on box outs here. It's late

1062
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 5: at night. I should be going to bed, but I

1063
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 5: come down here. I'm like, Laura, I'll be in bed

1064
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 5: in about an hour. The roast She's like, dray to

1065
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 5: be quiet. The girls are sleeping in the room next door.

1066
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 5: You don't need to see that. There's a lot of

1067
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 5: roaps beef that loud. Yeah, I do rebounds are back, A.

1068
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 2: Few things, few things, jess awesome. When no Donovan Mitchell,

1069
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: who was in the concussion protocol, it was sort of

1070
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 2: like out of left field there, so he missed this game.

1071
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 2: It didn't matter. They continue to roll. They just they

1072
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: just ran to the victory. The score looks closer than

1073
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: it was. It was a huge, huge win. I can't

1074
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: wait till we can play pick up basketball again and

1075
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 2: Trey Kirby's boxing out, yelling big beef off boards like

1076
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: I literally can't wait to be running. You know, I'm

1077
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: the outlet man. I'm going so I can't wait to

1078
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: give me this to yell, give me that beef.

1079
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 5: I was thinking about that last night's skates for the

1080
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 5: first time in my life. When I go back and

1081
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 5: play pick up ball July twenty twenty one, I'm calling.

1082
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 2: Out every rebound. I guess one, two. I mean we'll

1083
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 2: play for what two and a half hours.

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00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 5: I gotta get twenty over the cour Oh, you're gonna

1085
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 5: have a secret beef in my back out of the bag,

1086
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 5: pull out of rose beef and crush it during a game.

1087
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: Well, that's my final point, sauce, that's my final point. Arby's,

1088
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 2: get your head out of your ass, slash bun and

1089
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: holler at us with some money for all this free

1090
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 2: publicity we're dropping for you. We're not getting paid by

1091
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: Armies for all this big beef for showing here, but

1092
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 2: we should be because all I see, all I see

1093
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: in our Twitter feed now when someone is flirting with

1094
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: twenty rebounds is all big beef time. I'm getting hungry.

1095
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 2: Where's the order the Army's like, come on, Coloradus. Army's

1096
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 2: was trending on Twitter this week. Army's Was it because

1097
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: of big beef? I'll let you decide. No, it actually wasn't,

1098
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 2: but it was actually because people hate Armies, right, but

1099
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: we don't. We're bringing it back. If you want some

1100
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: good plumpy hop on with the rebound noise, right, yes, yeah,

1101
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 2: you can actually rebound your your your image right now.

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00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: And you guys with no dunks and our love for rebound,

1103
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 2: which is roast beef, I mean roast beef, which is rebound,

1104
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 2: big beef. LEI. You're gonna be hitting the boards harder

1105
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 2: when you're out there playing ball.

1106
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 4: Nah man, I'm going I'm joeings last night just catching

1107
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 4: those threes and shooting them. That's it, man, I've given

1108
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 4: up rebounding. I'm just a three point shooter. That's it.

1109
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 4: I don't even go in the paint.

1110
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 2: Yes, you've turned into a real Zach Harper Rashid Wallace

1111
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 2: three point line to three point line. I love it. Okay,

1112
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 2: let's get to tweet of the night.

1113
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 3: Tweet O the night?

1114
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 6: Wow, Twitter, what do you got for me?

1115
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 2: Oh?

1116
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 5: Got a little tweet for you from the Milwaukee Box.

1117
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 5: This was going around on Twitter. That's where we usually

1118
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 5: find the tweets, so it's getting a lot of buzz.

1119
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 5: So take a look at Yannis onto Champo being silly.

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00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 4: I'm getting old and weird.

1121
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 7: It's crazy.

1122
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 6: This is my first time.

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Speaker 7: It's about.

1124
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 6: I'm there, big here before.

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00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 2: Unfortunately you can I leave the hotel.

1126
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 7: I didn't have the chance to experience stamp up.

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00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 6: What else?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm getting old and weird. I'm alone and look

1129
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 7: at me. There's nobody at all. Nobody likes you, man,

1130
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 7: It is what it is. Sometimes in life, we're not

1131
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 7: gonna be an algy to motivate. We're not gonna be

1132
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 7: a energy to push you, to celebate you, to upplause you.

1133
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 7: You gotta do your own. That's what I'm doing right now.

1134
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 5: I was gonna ask you guys, what's something old and

1135
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 5: weird you do? But then I realized we talked about

1136
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 5: cream rints and cleanies for like fifteen minutes yesterday, both

1137
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 5: of which are old and weird. The old weird thing

1138
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 5: I did today was use a honey dipper. What's what's

1139
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,439
Speaker 5: a honey dipper all about? Just a piece of wood

1140
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 5: you stick in there? An old weird thing that's still exis.

1141
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 5: But I hit you with another tweet, Skeets, this is

1142
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 5: another Bucks tweet from Eric Neime, who says, for those uninitiated,

1143
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 5: Janis has now called Dante DiVincenzo white chocolate in back

1144
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 5: to back press conferences. I don't know when a nickname

1145
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 5: becomes official, but this is definitely something to monitor. Okay,

1146
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 5: I don't know, Skeets, white chocolate already another white chocolate.

1147
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 5: I don't think I can get on board with this one,

1148
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 5: though I did. Like somebody responded to Eric with a

1149
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 5: tweet saying that the nickname Alfredo Sauce is available.

1150
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,479
Speaker 2: A great nickname well for Dante DiVincenzo. There's the clip

1151
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 2: going around last night of Lowry. He pointing out how

1152
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 2: white DiVincenzo is, and all Divinenzo threw down a huge

1153
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 2: dunklo a big time. Yeah, he threw on such a

1154
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 2: big dunk that Kyle Lowry had to follow him the

1155
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: next time.

1156
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 6: He came down for it right right, and.

1157
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: Then yeah, because he was so red, Lowry was pointing out, Yes,

1158
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,919
Speaker 2: because he's so white, that's why you're seeing the mark

1159
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: so bad, very very weird. That was a big win

1160
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: by the Bucks there over the Raps too. Raps sort

1161
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 2: of made a close set the end, and then the

1162
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 2: Bucks pulled away. But yeah, is it too Is it

1163
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: too soon ly for another? Weight Chocolate?

1164
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 4: Yes, yes it is. White Chocolate's an iconic nickname. And

1165
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone who knows anything about the history

1166
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 4: of the NBA doesn't automatically just say that's Jason Williams

1167
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 4: so Devincenzo. If he can, you know, provide enough highlights and.

1168
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: Enough, that's the thing he's not. He's not weight Chocolate Enna, No, No.

1169
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 4: Because white chocolate specifically is those those passes and those plays,

1170
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 4: you know, not necessarily scoring or anything like that, or shooting.

1171
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 4: But it was like he was he definitely had his

1172
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 4: own style, and that's what Devincenzo has to do. He

1173
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,720
Speaker 4: has to create some sort of playing style that's like, Okay,

1174
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 4: we can clearly see that's you. You know, you can't

1175
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 4: just say, well, you're white chocolate because it's cool. I mean,

1176
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 4: it's a cool nickname. It's a gre's a great name.

1177
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 2: What about Alfredo sauce? Though, you like that one? I

1178
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 2: don't mind.

1179
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to be caught Alfredo sauce if everyone

1180
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,479
Speaker 4: else is like it comes Alfredo Sauce down the lane?

1181
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, it's a heavy dish.

1182
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 4: Someone here is Isach McDonald in this tream scene? What

1183
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 4: about creamy D?

1184
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1185
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: Sure?

1186
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: And spicy p.

1187
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 6: Creamy D.

1188
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: Back just back to the honest clip too. That's such

1189
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: a great clip. I always cry and laugh and watching that.

1190
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 2: I actually hadn't seen the whole thing. I saw like

1191
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 2: the screen grab going around around last night where it

1192
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 2: says I'm old and weird, and I was sort of like,

1193
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 2: what is this from? But so I hadn't seen that

1194
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: video yet. That's the first time for me. That's amazing.

1195
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 5: He really commits to it up, almost turns into a

1196
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 5: wrestling promo there at the end.

1197
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 2: It's like I gotta do it all by myself, and

1198
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 2: that's what I'm doing out here. Felt like I wanted

1199
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 2: to drop the people's elbow a little bit.

1200
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1201
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 2: Oh god, his arms get bigger and bigger every time.

1202
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 2: You guys just get just lifting all the time. Ah, right,

1203
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 2: great stuff. It's sort of basically two tweets of the

1204
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 2: night there. I love it, Trey. Okay, pick the results

1205
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 2: last night. What was the Mavericks Jazz game? Jazz big,

1206
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 2: big win over Dallas. They were favored by four and

1207
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 2: a half. Took care of that, no, Mitchell, as I said,

1208
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 2: really good game from Gobert there with the French dip beef.

1209
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 2: So what that means is it's over. Yes, our first

1210
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: pickum of the season. It's a rap because Lee, Trey

1211
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 2: and myself had Utah. They got the victory. That improved

1212
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 2: Trey and Lee to eleven and thirteen, Mee to fourteen

1213
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 2: and ten. Not bad there, But Tash he picked Dallas.

1214
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 2: He had to swerve if he was getting a little

1215
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 2: desperate because he was trailing. He got another loss. Task

1216
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 2: eating sixteen task is usually really really good at this,

1217
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 2: So he started slow here. This season he will be

1218
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 2: having to pay off the Pickum loss. So if you

1219
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 2: have a last second, a last minute idea for a

1220
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 2: Pickham payoff for Tassi to do, probably what early next week,

1221
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 2: if we're being honest, I don't think we'll get to

1222
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 2: it tomorrow. Let us know. Let us know, tweet at

1223
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 2: us at no dunksink, let us know in the stream team,

1224
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 2: let us know in the YouTube comments, or you can

1225
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 2: email any ideas you have to no dunks at the

1226
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 2: Athletic dot Com TASKI will be painted off. Good victory

1227
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 2: from you guys there. He must have been happy with that. Ley.

1228
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 2: You will not be having to funnel a bean bong. Yeah.

1229
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 2: The funny thing was.

1230
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 4: So many games on last night and Tass obviously had

1231
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 4: to swerve. I'm a little surprised he picked that game

1232
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 4: right right because the Jazz, you know, just super red

1233
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 4: hot and the MAVs not. I thought, oh, that's a

1234
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 4: fair I mean, I guess I guess that's it. I

1235
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 4: guess maybe he thought, well, those other guys are definitely

1236
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 4: going to pick the Jazz. I guess that was it.

1237
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: I think that's what is thinking was He's like, one

1238
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 2: of you two is gonna take the Jazz. So yeah,

1239
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 2: there's me at least the option to take the Mavericks.

1240
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, this one was over very early on, even without

1241
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 4: Donovan Mitchell as you mentioned there, So jazz rolling.

1242
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 2: Jazz rolling task will be painted off early next week.

1243
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: If you have an idea, let us know. Okay, we'll

1244
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 2: call it there, so we won't make our picks tonight. Well,

1245
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 2: we'll start it up early next week on Monday show.

1246
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 2: We'll start making our picks again as we reset the scores.

1247
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 2: Everybody goes back to zero and zero and we see

1248
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 2: who comes in last and has to pay it off.

1249
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 2: Always fun, all right, guys, emails your questions and comments

1250
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: for our next Beach step In podcasts No dunks at

1251
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 2: the Athletic dot com. We dropped the new beach step

1252
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Speaker 2: in yesterday. It's a spunky episode. It's I mean, these

1253
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 2: are these Beach step In podcasts are getting They're starting

1254
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 2: to get crazier and crazier. I think we're getting like

1255
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 2: loopier and loopier as the season moves on and the

1256
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Speaker 2: workload continues to increase. But they're a lot of fun,

1257
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Speaker 2: and you guys send in some fun questions. Uh, look,

1258
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Speaker 2: I'll be honest, there's not a ton of basketball talking

1259
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Speaker 2: these Beach Step In podcasters like one or two basketball

1260
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 2: questions and then they're crazy and we go off on

1261
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 2: some insane tangents. You know, Task is singing. At some point,

1262
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Speaker 2: Lee's pulling out a handkerchief and he's waving it around

1263
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 2: and always going so anyway, again, there are a lot

1264
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Speaker 2: of fun So go check out the Beach step In

1265
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Speaker 2: podcast or join us life for those at three pm

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Speaker 2: Some emails have been flying back and forth this morning.

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Speaker 2: Some new gear on its way soon. I would actually,

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Speaker 2: you know what, I'm gonna lock it in Monday. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna have new stuff up at the nobunk dot com store. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a lot of new stuff by the looks of it.

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Speaker 2: So you know, either go get something now or you

1275
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Speaker 2: can even wait till Monday if you want to do that,

1276
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Speaker 2: We'll let you know when that stuff goes live. And finally,

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Speaker 2: about team specific shows. And then there's like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: like I always forget, there's other sports going on. You

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Speaker 2: I have other sports. There are other sports. There's you know,

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Speaker 2: there's a football podcast. I listened to the Athletic Football

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Speaker 5: It's the only reason I know anything about football. Can't

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Speaker 5: wait to hear my man Robert may Is breaking down

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Speaker 5: how the Bears are gonna get to Shan Watson right,

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Speaker 5: some rons in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Come on, you can't get canvas Parker and to Shaun

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Speaker 2: Watson in the in the span of the same week

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Speaker 2: here or something, I don't know. Twenty twenty one looking

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Speaker 2: pretty good. The balls are back, the sky are.

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Speaker 4: Back, the Bears come back.

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Speaker 2: before we wrap it up. NBA Whoopsies coming later today

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Speaker 2: and tonight. I'll just remind you one more time, NBA

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00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 2: Happy Hour. This is something new for us. We're gonna

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00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 2: try it. Who knows what's gonna happen. We're gonna jump

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00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 2: on YouTube live around halftime of the first game on

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00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 2: TNT it's the Blazer's Rockets game and just shoot the shit,

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Speaker 2: crack a beer, talk, hoops talk, nonsense. Yeah, sort of

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Speaker 2: watch the game, maybe not, who knows. We'll have some

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Speaker 2: fun though, so yeah, also.

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Speaker 4: Quit just quickly on pumping packs with Coyote Peterson. This

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Speaker 4: offten at three pmson on.

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Speaker 2: You Okay, yeah, give a shout out to his son Pop.

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Speaker 2: Not even kidding, Hidy Peterson. I know nothing about this man,

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Speaker 2: but this is, like you said, you give us the

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Speaker 2: t's or the hint that he's Steve Irwin Lake. So

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Speaker 2: that's yeah, yeah, am Man of the Animals.

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Speaker 4: Is he check him out on YouTube. Yeah, it's going

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Speaker 4: to be fun. And yeah, he's a big basketball fan,

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Speaker 4: so this is going to be a real you know,

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Speaker 4: world's colliding here. I'm not I'm not sure what's going

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Speaker 4: to happen. I'm not sure what's going to happen, but

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Speaker 4: just join us three pm on YouTube this afternoon Eastern,

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Speaker 4: and we'll have some fun. Who knows where it's going

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Speaker 4: to go?

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so this is not on Instagram, where you usually.

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Speaker 4: Not today, No, No, we're going to do it on

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Speaker 4: YouTube today because Coyote has a big, big following on

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Speaker 4: the on the YouTube's.

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Speaker 2: So natural habitat you'd say, yeah, well I'm very excited

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Speaker 2: for this. I'll be too.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, pm.

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Speaker 4: So what we're saying three pm Eastern? Yeah, I'm going

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Speaker 4: to get out the ACME basketball cards. Yeah. I don't

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Speaker 4: know Coyote, you know, it's not that.

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Speaker 2: I just don't see it to him though.

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Speaker 4: Listen, man, you anything goes for this one today? I

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Speaker 4: don't know where it's gonna go.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm excited Coyote, Peterson and Lee ellis opening

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Speaker 2: up an old pack of basketball cards. I wish the

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Speaker 2: cards you were opening up so much for animals, oh

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Speaker 2: so much.

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Speaker 4: Well, there might be big Doug Glenn Robinson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I'm sure you'll probably. Are you gonna

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Speaker 2: actually open a pack or are you gonna like plant

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Speaker 2: this pack? What are you doing?

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Speaker 4: Listen? I can't reveal all the secrets. You know what

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Speaker 4: TV's like. You know you've got to You've gotta leave

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Speaker 4: something there for the fans. You're gonna leave intrigue.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it would be fun. Go ahead, by the way, Lee.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Most of the time we've been signing these cards to

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Speaker 5: give them away. Trading cards are hot right now.

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Speaker 2: Mate.

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Speaker 5: You got to keep an eye out for those GYM

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Speaker 5: meant tens. He's gonna be worth six to seven dollars

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Speaker 5: a piece. These cards you're pulling out of here, the

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Speaker 5: big packs. I've been seeing some of the stuff on YouTube,

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Speaker 5: on the youtubes.

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Speaker 6: If you will.

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Speaker 5: When you get a big card, man, don't just talk,

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Speaker 5: don't write your name on it. Get that thing graded

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Speaker 5: and sell it for millions dollar.

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Speaker 2: Put on gloves. When you're doing that, you keep eating

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Speaker 2: potato chips.

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Speaker 4: And that's what still surprises me. Whenever something like that happens.

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Speaker 4: People send me the links on Twitter and stuff about

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Speaker 4: someone paying two point six million for a card, and

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Speaker 4: I'm like, what is wrong with some people to spend

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Speaker 4: that much money on a cod on a car.

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Speaker 2: It's a big business man. I think Simmons are the ringer,

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Speaker 2: I should say, starting up a podcast solely dedicated to

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Speaker 2: to trading cards and the business behind it. It's it's

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Speaker 2: a big deal. So keep your eye out for you know.

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Speaker 2: Al allah. Yeah, I can't even say it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the first Egyptian born in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: That's right. The card goes big.

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Speaker 4: And I think Donata was also born in Egypt. I

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Speaker 4: think we have two Egyptian born now NBA players. Now

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Speaker 4: I believe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, learning some things, okay, so popping packs today, NBA

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Speaker 2: will sees today, NBA Happy Hour tonight, My goodness, keeping

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Speaker 2: JD busy in the factory, the classic factory, continuing to

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Speaker 2: pump out the classics. All right, thanks for joining us

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Speaker 2: here this morning. We will see you later today, tonight

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Speaker 2: or tomorrow. Clipper bros. You heard it here first. Have

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Speaker 2: a great time, turn up. Love you guys awesome. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for joining us, and remember armies, we love roast beef.

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Speaker 2: Now give us the cheddar. You could stay every day,

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Speaker 2: and Dad you happy every minute.

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Speaker 1: It's been so long with your mona pas having already,

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