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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Greetings and welcome in.

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Speaker 1: We're in another beautiful Sunday. It's Sunday without football, hence

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Speaker 1: the name change to the show, which I always have

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Speaker 1: to make sure I get right.

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Speaker 2: And we do a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit of a change up along the way, as

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Speaker 1: you heard the big Boys guys say Mike Carbon alongside

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Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz. Eight years in the league. You've heard him

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Speaker 1: on countdown to kicked Off giving you all the betting

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Speaker 1: angles and well in football angles, and this week he's

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Speaker 1: had to explain to you what is or isn't a hold? Jeff,

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Speaker 1: how are you this morning?

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Speaker 2: I'm good. You know, I'm here to break down the

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Speaker 2: skills competition last night. You know that's why eight year

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Speaker 2: NFL VET, I'm a very very extensive experience in basketball

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Speaker 2: skills competition, So glad to be here. It is. We're,

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Speaker 2: you know, first Sunday without ball. My family and I

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Speaker 2: are leaving the house today, which is a first since

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Speaker 2: since September. We're doing an activity outside of watching football today,

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Speaker 2: so you know, we after the Super Bowl, it's sort

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Speaker 2: of nice to get away from football a little bit,

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Speaker 2: you know. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, we sort of are all

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Speaker 2: into I think this weekend still, you know, you're still

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Speaker 2: applicable to talk about the super Bowl, and then and

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Speaker 2: then I feel like, you know, you get a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a break. And then by like March first,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, where's football? Give me football? Game football. We'll

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Speaker 2: have combine and some ufl action and obviously some draft stuff.

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Speaker 2: So it's a it's nice to have a little one

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Speaker 2: weekend where my life is not consumed by the pickskin.

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Speaker 1: No. Sure, family gets a little time and maybe you

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Speaker 1: got a little more sleep. I mean, for you, this

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Speaker 1: is the same starting time for your show. Yes, for me,

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Speaker 1: it was two hours later. I was up at four

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Speaker 1: o'clock pacing my hallways. It's like, why wait, I don't

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Speaker 1: have to leave, Like yeah, four am. So that was

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Speaker 1: a little weird here West Coast time. So you know,

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Speaker 1: you turn on the television and what do you get?

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Speaker 1: A bunch of marathons and bad movies that you've seen

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Speaker 1: a million times, as well as a lot of updates

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Speaker 1: from All Stars Saturday Night, which we'll we'll make a

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Speaker 1: mention of here because I think for you and I

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Speaker 1: there was one event that really stood out of all

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Speaker 1: of it. Congratulations to Dame Lillard and the McClung. That's great,

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Speaker 1: all great things. Let's jump over seven foot guys to

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Speaker 1: try to dunk and all of the commentary there. But

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Speaker 1: it was in Escu and Steph Kurky was really the

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Speaker 1: main event. And as I joke with you on our

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Speaker 1: messaging back and forth, I was kind of hoping we'd

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Speaker 1: get a WWE kind of entrance from Caitlin Clark just

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Speaker 1: down the road, you know, Iowa playing in Indiana a

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Speaker 1: little bit later on all of a sudden, wait, that's

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Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark's music, and she comes walking all out and

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Speaker 1: maybe cuts a promo like the Rock and everybody's excited.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I think we got everything we could

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Speaker 1: have wanted him more. I mean, Sabrina shot well and

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Speaker 1: then had a rough's patch and then Steph comes in

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Speaker 1: setting the tone for maybe an event that they can

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Speaker 2: So Sabrina was Caitlyn Clark before COVID hits, right, So

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Speaker 2: I'm an organ guy. She obviously to Oregon, and Oregon

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Speaker 2: was number one in the country and women's College of

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Speaker 2: basketball heading into that twenty twenty tournament. They had Sabrina,

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Speaker 2: they had Ruthie Heberd, they had Sotu Salid, and they

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Speaker 2: had three ladies drafted in the top ten in the WNBA.

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Speaker 2: They were a good team, and Sabrina, I believe, still

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Speaker 2: has the record for most triple doubles in all of

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Speaker 2: college basketball, men's and women's. I might be corrected there

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Speaker 2: at some point with Kaitlyn Clark, but I think she

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Speaker 2: still owns the record that So she was Kaitlyn Clark.

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Speaker 2: She was you know, this is right when NIL started,

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Speaker 2: kind of right when the you know, idea of players

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Speaker 2: slowly rising up to obviously what's happened with you know

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Speaker 2: has gone, you know, just skyrocket, which is great because

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Speaker 2: So I was really excited to watch her last night

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Speaker 2: WNBA All Star Weekend, she made all but two three

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Speaker 2: So this is a really fun idea to do, and

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Speaker 2: it was good. I mean, look, it's a one event.

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Speaker 2: To your point, I wanted to watch last night. I've

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Speaker 2: I've seen enough guys shoot threes and and donk and

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Speaker 2: I really think this is the take I always have

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Speaker 2: because I'm always filling in during All Star Baseball week

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Speaker 2: just everyone's off that week, and it's a week I'm

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Speaker 2: always filling in. And you know, it's before we used

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Speaker 2: to have NBA Game Pass and just on a weekend,

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Speaker 2: like just have all these games on every weekend, every

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Speaker 2: night you can watch in social media with the highlights.

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Speaker 2: All Start weekend was the one weekend where I got

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Speaker 2: to watch everyone play altogether. You know, it was a

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Speaker 2: one weekend I got to watch everyone dunk, everyone shoot

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Speaker 2: threes and the baseball. Really, you know, I grew up

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Speaker 2: It was only week and I got to watch ale

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Speaker 2: players play, right, it was All Star gay And I

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Speaker 2: think now with just the highlights and the access to

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Speaker 2: the NBA All Star Weekend is not much fun anymore.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't feel the need to watch Dame Larder.

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Speaker 2: I can watch Dame learn every single night play, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't feel the need to have to watch someone

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Speaker 2: in Olympics, right, Like I've seen these many many times over.

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Speaker 2: We had not seen Sabrina against Steph Curry, right, We

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Speaker 2: lot of fun. I don't know, Mike, if they can

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Speaker 2: replicate that next year. I mean, they might try to

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Speaker 2: do it with with Kayln Clark against Dame Lillard, which

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Speaker 2: it's a Nike versus Underarmoer thing too. There's a little

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Speaker 1: No, and that's that's really it are. You're trying to

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Speaker 1: capture these these moments and for this one, the build

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Speaker 1: wondering if you do it, because that's always the talk

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Speaker 1: That was always the knock on. Why isn't Lebron doing

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Speaker 1: the brand. I don't know that it is. I don't

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Speaker 1: was always the argument against guys participating. So Steph's on

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Speaker 1: your point about all Star games in general, I was

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Speaker 1: trying to explain, you know, the it's showing my age,

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Speaker 1: I guess to a degree, Jeff, because I'm older than you,

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Speaker 1: I'm not quite too worre Steve Hartman, you know, your

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of in the middle there a legit like

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Speaker 2: you know, like I think Steve is older than my parents.

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Speaker 1: It could be yeah, yeah, but I mean I mean

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Speaker 1: I just want to hire him and have him on

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Speaker 1: But you know that kind of thing. But your point

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Speaker 1: about all Star games, you know, baseball was the one

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Speaker 1: in particular the NBA. Same thing. You'd have the national

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Speaker 1: Game of the Week, and let's face it, we always

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Speaker 1: have got the same teams. That was my big complaint

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Speaker 1: your local news, or you might get a couple more

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Speaker 1: videos of something else, and then you know, over time,

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Speaker 1: you know, ESPN comes along Sports Center, all these other

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Speaker 1: today is going to be all the speculation out of Hey,

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Speaker 1: those guys spent an inordinate amount of time together. They

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Speaker 1: his contract. I mean, that's really all that's gonna fall

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Speaker 1: the ridiculous number of prop bets and all these other

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Speaker 1: fun things that we could do. Jeff, if you really

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Speaker 2: I did get a text with someone last night. It's

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Speaker 2: well not a someone, Bill Krachenberger, who had the legend

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Speaker 2: Sundays who said to take the under. So I have.

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Speaker 2: I have. I don't know what it's at at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I got so he told me last night,

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Speaker 2: three sixty four and a half I got. I got

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Speaker 2: three points. How about that? This is my Bill's the

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Speaker 2: best man.

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Speaker 1: He's a legend. Man. That's my appointment listening with you

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Speaker 1: guys as I leave here and head out. That's no question.

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Speaker 2: I will probably not watch any of it, but I

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Speaker 2: will hope my wag for cash. I will take a

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Speaker 2: peak ski at at the score throughout the night, because

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Speaker 2: you know, there's the finale of True Detective tonight then

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Speaker 2: oh there you go. I gotta gotta look at it,

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Speaker 2: and I'll take a peek on the under there. I

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Speaker 2: got three and a half points of value there from

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Speaker 2: crack on the three three sixty one and a half.

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Speaker 2: And they played that hybrid game right, where like they

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Speaker 2: just choose an end score and play too.

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Speaker 1: Not this year that went away. They went back to

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Speaker 1: the regular we're back to East versus West and just

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Speaker 2: I thought people liked that new format.

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Speaker 1: It seemed like folks were pretty gravitating towards that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I always just wondered, you know, like,

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Speaker 1: and it was the criticism of the NBA in general

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Speaker 1: was hey, just give me a text alert with about

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Speaker 1: six minutes left, I'll see what the score is. Then

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Speaker 1: I'll decide to tune in.

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Speaker 2: But that's the thing with that with that All Star

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Speaker 2: game though, has been that way for many years now,

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Speaker 2: where like, you know, when it comes down to the

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Speaker 2: money time, right, which is where the last five minutes

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Speaker 2: are because the bonuses are so different. If you win

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Speaker 2: better they don't call penalties and you get one opportunity

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Speaker 2: the game in call a holding, not not hundreds of

432
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Speaker 2: times to watch a replay.

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Speaker 1: Well, you go back to even during the regular season,

434
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Speaker 1: the game they lost because there was no penalty called,

435
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Speaker 1: right a mugging on a wide receiver field, you know

436
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Speaker 1: where you know, I think we're reasonable people that one.

437
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Speaker 1: You know, the guy's got to wearing them like a coat.

438
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Speaker 1: But it's the idea that you know, for the most part,

439
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Speaker 1: I'm with you, like I don't want to see it,

440
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Speaker 1: you know, are are there talking points? And you know,

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Speaker 1: for Smith and I were on air during Monday and

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Speaker 1: Thursday and now I guess the occasional Friday game that

443
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Speaker 1: will come up. But you know, so there's a little

444
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Speaker 1: bit in the moment of we see it once, so

445
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Speaker 1: now we're reacting, you know, like other like the I guess,

446
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Speaker 1: trying to be the eye of the referee, and then

447
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Speaker 1: everybody gets to dissect it thereafter it's like, hey, if

448
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Speaker 1: I'm wrong, you know, it was the heat of the moment.

449
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Speaker 1: I can always go back and start singing like Cartman

450
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Speaker 1: did in South Park all those years ago and say

451
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Speaker 1: it that way. But you know, coming out of the

452
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl that that became one of the big talking points,

453
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Speaker 1: the other one obviously being the what will be an

454
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Speaker 1: endless debate? Kyle Shanahan won big games, but two taking

455
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Speaker 1: the ball in overtime. I I argued Jeff all week

456
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Speaker 1: that you know that defense had just had the San

457
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Speaker 1: Francisco defense had just given up two drives totaling twenty

458
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Speaker 1: three plays and half a quarter of football. Yeah, and

459
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Speaker 1: we're checking themselves out of games to try to get

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Speaker 1: you know, get their engine back. So from that angle,

461
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Speaker 1: you just have to go down there and actually finish

462
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Speaker 1: the drives. So just the I guess the third down

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Speaker 1: where Chris Jones doesn't get blocked, followed by taking the

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Speaker 1: field goal instead of maybe playing for the first down,

465
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Speaker 1: instead of taking the shot at the end zone, I

466
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Speaker 1: guess I can micro manage there. But I didn't. I

467
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Speaker 1: didn't think the call to take the football was a

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Speaker 1: bad one.

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Speaker 2: So here's why I think it matters. It's not the

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Speaker 2: act of whether or not you you took the ball.

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Speaker 2: It's the fact that post game you had a bunch

472
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Speaker 2: of Chiefs players offensive defense that talked about how they

473
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Speaker 2: had a specific plan for overtime, right, and this plan

474
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Speaker 2: was talked about with their coaching staff, with their players,

475
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Speaker 2: and they had a vision for how they were going

476
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Speaker 2: to attack the Super Bowl overtime. Now, of course, you know,

477
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Speaker 2: if they didn't get if you know, if if they

478
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Speaker 2: didn't get the ball first and didn't go exactly how

479
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Speaker 2: they wanted to, you know, obviously their plan did not matter.

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Speaker 2: But for someone like me that I think process is

481
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Speaker 2: important and it plays a big role in winning and losing.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs had a process outlined for how they were

483
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Speaker 2: going to attack the Super Bowl over to me, the

484
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl overtime, keep leaving that part out, and the

485
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Speaker 2: Niners did not. Now, Shanahan, in his mind, had had

486
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Speaker 2: a plan, but the problem is the rest of his

487
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Speaker 2: team did not know the plan. So Kyle Euschek, who

488
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Speaker 2: obviously pro Bowl you know, uh, you know full back.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a clip of him in going out

490
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Speaker 2: for the either the first play of overtime or the

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Speaker 2: kickoff overtime, saying, hey guys, the Chiefs can get the

492
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Speaker 2: ball too for a score touchdown like he didn't know

493
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Speaker 2: he didn't know the rule. Eric Armstead said that he

494
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Speaker 2: did not know the rule till was put up on

495
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Speaker 2: the screen. Kyle Shanahanton after the game that he left

496
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Speaker 2: up the position coaches to talk to his team about

497
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Speaker 2: the rule. And again, it's not why they want to

498
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Speaker 2: lost the game, but I think in a very close game,

499
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Speaker 2: three point overtime game, the margins really matter, right, And

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Speaker 2: when you listen to Niners players say, you know, we

501
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Speaker 2: our coaches have to prepare us for that is what

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Speaker 2: they're saying, right, They it meantally prepare us for what

503
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Speaker 2: our plan was. And where does that permeate itself in

504
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Speaker 2: other parts of the game plan, you know, because if

505
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Speaker 2: you're not doing this to the one hundred percent detail

506
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Speaker 2: that's needed, you're probably missing on other things. And when

507
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Speaker 2: and when it matters in the margins, right in a

508
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Speaker 2: game like this, that's to me what stood out. It's

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Speaker 2: not that they lost because of this, because then I

510
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Speaker 2: go to some of the scheme issues that Niners had

511
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Speaker 2: with their past protection sure, and it's like, well there's

512
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Speaker 2: another margin, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You did on Twitter, which was you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: masterclass for folks that happen.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. You know, it's like, well, here's another margin

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Speaker 2: that the Chiefs sort of had on them, right, And

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Speaker 2: then you look at, you know again the overtime idea,

518
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Speaker 2: where like the even the guys on defense knew the

519
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Speaker 2: exact plan. We're going to get the ball second hopefully

520
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Speaker 2: and go for two. We're going for two, like we

521
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Speaker 2: know our plan. And I think that that, to me

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Speaker 2: is why it's a big deal. It's not a big

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Speaker 2: deal whether I took I get his reasoning. It makes

524
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Speaker 2: sense his defense was tired. You're exactly right about that.

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Speaker 2: They had played a lot of stamps in a row.

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Speaker 2: I think also just from a mental perspective, you know,

527
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Speaker 2: have brought party, Hey buddy, go win us a super Bowl?

528
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Speaker 2: You know, probably difficult, right, Like you know, to get

529
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Speaker 2: an early lead in the overtime period, put on your defense,

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Speaker 2: make the Chiefs have to decide to go for two

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Speaker 2: or not. And obviously they had decided ready to do that, right,

532
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Speaker 2: but put that pressure on them. So I understand conscient

533
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Speaker 2: and making the decisions. But I don't understand again, is

534
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Speaker 2: not telling your team early the week of the plan,

535
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Speaker 2: you know, And that I think is where to me

536
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Speaker 2: the issue is and where I think he's just you know,

537
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Speaker 2: on the margins. They lost this game on the margins,

538
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Speaker 2: and you never want to lose a game like that

539
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Speaker 2: for that reason.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because when we look at the NFL's hole,

541
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a one possession league, yes, right, So

542
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Speaker 1: the devil is in the details, even in the regular season.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how many games do you watch go down

544
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Speaker 1: the stretch, stretch them in you're covering it for cowdown

545
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Speaker 1: to kick off. Obviously your your other breakdowns, but certainly

546
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Speaker 1: what you guys do trying to you know, assess lines

547
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Speaker 1: and value and yeah, comes down into some of those

548
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Speaker 1: kind of things. And for Kyle Shanahan, you know, this

549
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Speaker 1: is just another you know, negative grade on that scorecard

550
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Speaker 1: of Okay, his team's just flat out man for man

551
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Speaker 1: telling you that they leave some stuff on the table.

552
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Speaker 1: Brian Greasey, you know, had to come out and say, well, yeah,

553
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Speaker 1: we've talked to Brock about it and everything. So you know,

554
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Speaker 1: Purty stood up, but everybody else had already done the damage.

555
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Speaker 1: Like it just showed that you had a locker room

556
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Speaker 1: that really wasn't all on the same page.

557
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Speaker 2: And again that that I think is when you when

558
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Speaker 2: you lose a three point game. Over time, you start

559
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Speaker 2: thinking about all the reasons why right, and there's obviously

560
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Speaker 2: physical reasons and whatnot. But again, I go back to

561
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Speaker 2: the idea of like losing a game because you're just

562
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Speaker 2: not good with all the details. It's you know, it's

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Speaker 2: not it's not it's not the best way to lose, right,

564
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Speaker 2: because it's it's easy to to easy to lose.

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Speaker 1: Well, but it's easier to get bludgeoned.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's easier to accept that idea of we just

567
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 2: lost that game versus well, we just weren't prepared as

568
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Speaker 2: well as a chief sore and that I think is

569
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Speaker 2: is just a problem for Nyris fans and just look

570
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Speaker 2: man for Shanahan. I mean, look, I think that his

571
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Speaker 2: early sort of early career path definitely sort of follows

572
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Speaker 2: what Andy Reid had early in Philadelphia, where very close

573
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Speaker 2: to winning but not able to sort of seal the deal.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't it's not an indictment on his career. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's a young coach. He will have playing opportunities now

576
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Speaker 2: to continue to win. I think what makes his story

577
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Speaker 2: and his coaching legacy very impressive to me. He made

578
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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl with Jimmy g and Brock Purty absolutely,

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Speaker 2: which is just pretty remarkable considering again, I think the

580
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Speaker 2: talent deficiencies are both those quarterbacks. But you know, not

581
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 2: winning these games will continue to sort of haunt him

582
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Speaker 2: until which bo way it happened to any read, he

583
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Speaker 2: haunted him until until he's able to actually get it done.

584
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Speaker 2: So I think college Shannon's sort of in that same

585
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Speaker 2: boat right now.

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Speaker 1: I don't think people remember that he coached in Philadelphia.

587
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Speaker 1: Goes back to the same thing we were talking about

588
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Speaker 1: with All Star Games and how much different, you know,

589
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Speaker 1: the television viewing and coverage of all this stuff was.

590
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Speaker 1: And Andy Reid had a hell of a run in

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Speaker 1: Philly long before he became you know, the guy talking

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Speaker 1: about Nuggies.

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Speaker 2: But that's what you know, That's what winning championships does,

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Speaker 2: right It races oftentimes, you know, you know, blemishes in

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Speaker 2: your career.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because Shanahan's had had a tremendous run, as you say,

597
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Speaker 1: with Jimmy G and and with Brock Purty making it

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Speaker 1: Right on at Isaac lowan crowd where you find him

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so again different you know, different player Sabrina and

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Speaker 2: Kaitlyn Clark. Different sort of star power. And again this

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Speaker 2: was before women's college basketball became as popular as it

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Speaker 2: is now. But Sabrina was that was you know, she was.

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Speaker 1: Good, fire coming in, no question about it.

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Speaker 2: So that's why it was fun last night because I

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Speaker 2: think that the star power for Sabrina, I mean, Kaitlyn

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Speaker 2: Clark obviously, in this current time, I think would maybe

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Speaker 2: even draw more eyes than we saw last night for

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Speaker 2: that three point contest. But there was a lot of

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Speaker 2: fun last night. It was it was two minutes. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it was a shot for under a minute, but I

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Speaker 2: enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: Nonetheless, not often do you get the build up and

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Speaker 1: something to has that much value in a two minute period.

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Speaker 2: And and and it went well, like it went. It

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Speaker 2: was good. It was good. They both shot well. I mean,

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Speaker 2: obviously Sabrina had that one bad rack that kind of

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Speaker 2: cost her, but she has many points as the winner,

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Speaker 2: which is Dame Willard, So I mean it was impressive

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Speaker 2: to you know, to get that. And she shot from

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Speaker 2: the NBA line. Obviously, you know, she used her own ball,

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Speaker 2: which I mean, of course they should just use her

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Speaker 2: own ball, but I mean she she challenged it to

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Speaker 2: go to the NBA line, which was great. I thought

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Speaker 2: it was awesome. She said that, you know that she

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Speaker 2: practices from there all the time, and a lot of

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Speaker 2: her shots end up being from the NBA you know,

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Speaker 2: three point one anyway, so extend it out. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: thought it was great that she did from you know,

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Speaker 2: from the same place that Curry shot there.

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Speaker 1: You go take that Kenny Smith, who was just being brutalized.

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Speaker 2: It was, it was it was kind of weird that

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Speaker 2: that how much he kind of I didn't understand why

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Speaker 2: that matters where she shot her from.

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Speaker 1: No, there was there. Look, they had a lot of

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Speaker 1: moments that were odd with the cacophony of voices for

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Speaker 1: one thing, but yeah, the where she shot it from whatever,

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Speaker 1: and you know, Reggie Miller just very quick to be

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Speaker 1: like no, no, no, no, stop it. I did like the

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Speaker 1: Candice Parker shirt she was wearing. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you saw that it was the choking Reggie Miller shirt.

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Speaker 2: I did not see that. You know, there's a good

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Speaker 2: on the college football side. Josh Pate has a saying

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Speaker 2: about the Deon Sanders talk all season. He called it

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Speaker 2: the d On tax, Right, It's it's people that don't

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Speaker 2: really cover college football to talk about college football, right sure.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like we see some of that. I

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Speaker 2: love using that kind of phrase around, you know, other

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Speaker 2: sports like that, like last night was like the you know,

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Speaker 2: the Sabrina attacks, right, like the WNBA, Like like Kenny

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Speaker 2: Smith is probably not focusing a lot on the women's

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Speaker 2: college basketball or in w NBA right now. You know,

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Speaker 2: maybe from his job he passed to watch. I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he does. But you know that some

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Speaker 2: of the comments that's not felt like that right where

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Speaker 2: a guy was I would argue that he should be

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Speaker 2: more professional than he was, but a guy who kind

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Speaker 2: of had to cover a sport he doesn't really ever cover.

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Speaker 2: And we saw a lot with with with Colorado football,

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Speaker 2: where people that don't cover college football, we're just saying

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Speaker 2: the most ridiculously.

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Speaker 1: That's right. September was a whole other world man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and so it's the craziest.

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Speaker 2: I'm not excusing what Kenny said last night, but it

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Speaker 2: felt like a lot of that. Right. We're like, he's

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Speaker 2: just not used to talking about women's college basketball or

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Speaker 2: WNBA at all. I mean again, like the three point

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Speaker 2: line did not matter at all to this in the

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Speaker 2: NBA line. That's not why she missed any of the

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Speaker 2: shots that weren't short.

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Speaker 1: Like she scored twenty six. Yeah, she matched Dame to

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Speaker 1: your point. So yeah, trying to dismiss it. It's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: what what are we saying? Like she went and did

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Speaker 1: exactly what the exhibition was, and she challenged Steph had

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Speaker 1: to go make the extra shots. I mean, she pushed

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Speaker 1: him to the limit. So good exhibition. All right. Coming

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Speaker 1: up next, we will turn our attention and bring in

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Speaker 1: of the teams that make them mentioned here. We'll do

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Sunday. Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 1: by Carming alongside Jeff Schwartz, having a blast with you.

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Speaker 2: Jeff, I love it. I love it. Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Continued work thanks to Kirk Kretchmar his squad, and of

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Speaker 1: course all of you clamoring for more quality takes more hot,

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Speaker 1: take nonsense at times, and and breakdowns that you'll only

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Speaker 1: get here. Wow takes well, you know a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I'm true reason and rationale. I keep threatening our boss,

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Speaker 1: Scotch Spiro. I'm like, I'm really gonna just start tak

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Speaker 1: going hot takes just so he goes, I got enough

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Speaker 1: of those.

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Speaker 2: I can't, dude, I can't like.

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Speaker 1: I can't keep the act up is the problem.

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Speaker 2: I just I just say what I think. Man. I

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Speaker 2: sometimes it is a hot take. I don't know, but

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Speaker 2: like I can't you know those shows that are on,

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Speaker 2: you know, I just I tell an agent like, just

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Speaker 2: don't even bother, like, don't even like if they come open,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Just never. I don't want to yell

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Speaker 2: for three hours at someone about things like I want

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Speaker 2: to give my actual opinion on sports.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, and that's why we're here together on

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Speaker 1: a beautiful Fox uh Sports Sunday here. Uh Now. One

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Speaker 1: of the things that was in my timeline, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: it hit yours was this Simpson's NFL Oh incredible, one

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Speaker 1: of the great great memes series of all time for

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Speaker 1: those that haven't seen it. We'll play a couple here,

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Speaker 1: che you want to announce their arrival team by team

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Speaker 1: as we go. All right, let's get the first one.

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Speaker 6: So we got Detroit Lyons.

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Speaker 1: Let me by where finally going to the two and

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Speaker 1: then they get stopped as they exit the tunnel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was by It was by team in

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Speaker 2: the Red Jerseys though, it was like the night was great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So there is some photo shopping

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Speaker 1: and little bit of pro creator whatever they use to

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Speaker 1: overwrite some of this, because in some of the memes

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Speaker 1: you've got referee kits put on guys. Yeah, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: so you've got those kind of thing. All right, next team.

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Speaker 6: Next, we got the Las Vegas Raiders.

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Speaker 1: I feel so full of what's the opposite of shame?

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Speaker 2: Pride?

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Speaker 1: No, not that far from shame. And now the rebuilt

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Speaker 1: Raiders squad going. All right, let's go to another team.

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Speaker 6: Carolina Panthers are the next.

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Speaker 7: Oh, we made a terrible, terrible mistake.

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Speaker 2: It was it was Chief Wigham and Krusty right, that was.

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Speaker 1: Yes when he gets arrested, and it was the sideshow

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Speaker 1: Bob set up.

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Speaker 2: I have not watched that show in a long time,

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Speaker 2: and it brought back a lot of fun memories because

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Speaker 2: that like that, they hit some bangers in this in

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Speaker 2: this thread.

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Speaker 1: Man, I've gone back. I don't know. I'm up late

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Speaker 1: at night, right, so my show with with Jason Smith

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Speaker 1: for those unaware, seven seven pm to eleven pm Pacific time,

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Speaker 1: and then you can't fall asleep after his show, Right,

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Speaker 1: so you're trying to unwind adrenaline time, I can you.

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Speaker 2: I mean I've done some late nights here, Like I

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Speaker 2: did a post game for Practical Championship Game. I think

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Speaker 2: it ended at like one am, and I think I

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Speaker 2: was in sleeping by like one O three. You're my hero, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I can. I can just go to sleep.

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Speaker 1: I got to learn from you because it usually takes

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Speaker 1: me like an hour and a half. Like on a Friday,

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Speaker 1: I'm done like that. That's the end of the week.

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Speaker 1: I shout up off the com rex and I could

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Speaker 1: pass out in my chair. But the rest of the

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Speaker 1: week there's just this wind down process. So I've been

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Speaker 1: going back and there's marathons of the Simpsons and all

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Speaker 1: the old episodes, right, and obviously we've seen all the

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Speaker 1: threads of how many things they predicted along the way,

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Speaker 1: the the octopus and all these trump all the way

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Speaker 1: down the road. But like this this set of memes,

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Speaker 1: h I must have gone through it three different times.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get one more team in.

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Speaker 6: We got Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Homers running being chased by a bunch of kids. A

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Speaker 1: few more feet show what you got down? He goes

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Speaker 1: and gets trampled, just shy of the line. Yeah, the Bears.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's looking over at the teams that are

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Speaker 1: greater than them. I mean, there's just so many great

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Speaker 1: little bits here along the way. So you can go

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Speaker 1: back down the way back between. Now you've got like

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Speaker 1: forty seasons of it, Jeff's you've got plenty of time

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Speaker 1: to catch up.

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Speaker 2: Now the football's over forty seasons, you're probably right, right,

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Speaker 2: it's probably close.

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Speaker 1: To that ninety one I think was year one. So yeah, insanity,

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Speaker 1: no question about it. We turn our attention back. What

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Speaker 1: do we take away from this year's Super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: early odds on contenders for twenty twenty four. That's next

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Speaker 1: As we've talked about the week post Super Bowl, the

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Speaker 1: you know, post mortem on it, it felt like it

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Speaker 1: it went on a lot longer and continues to go

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Speaker 1: on because of all of the Shanahan and forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers talk. We don't normally talk about the victors. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: we had a terrible event at the parade earlier this week, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: that we we've had lives lost and a number of

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Speaker 1: lives affected in injuries. And what is normally that that

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Speaker 1: big celebration, end of year capping thing bringing people together,

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Speaker 1: which you know, for me, what we do here on

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Speaker 1: air and into our daily lives and and and sports concerts,

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Speaker 1: all of that, it's all about, you know, that commonality.

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Speaker 1: We may hate each other in the you know, and

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Speaker 1: hate the other teams, I should say, but in that space,

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Speaker 1: the energy goes in one direction because you're there to

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Speaker 1: celebrate sport in this case team, So to have it

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Speaker 1: marred in that way obviously a horrible indictment on you know,

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Speaker 1: just bad actors in society. But you know, the Chiefs

859
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: walk away with another Super Bowl and reed Patrick Mahomes,

860
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm out to the point and it kind of pain

861
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: to me all week. It was, well, you just can't

862
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: bet against Patrick Mahomes. And now it's the Rick Flair

863
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: to be the man. You got to beat the man

864
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: and until he's vanquished. And many teams had an opportunity

865
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: during the course of the year, Jeff. They just didn't

866
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: finish him off.

867
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: No, they didn't. They kept them alive. And you know,

868
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: look with seven teams getting in the postseason now basically

869
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: half the league, right, fourteen of thirty teams, you know

870
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: you're killing excuse that's probably the wrong word to use,

871
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 2: but knocking them off is gonna be nearly impossible to do.

872
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 2: I mean, they're never going to be bad enough to

873
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: you to not make the playoffs, probably, but sure, this

874
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: was the year with an offense that was not good, right,

875
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: was not good for a large majority of the season.

876
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 2: It was a team that, you know, the opportunities were there.

877
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: They went, they had to go to Buffalo. I was,

878
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: I was, I was had that game. It was wild.

879
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: They had to go to Baltimore. I thought they would

880
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: lose in Baltimore, and you know, they just never died.

881
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: They never they you know, no one could ever sort

882
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,479
Speaker 2: of knock them off the perch. And that's the only

883
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 2: and And when you have a team with Mahomes, Andy

884
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: Reid and the way the defense is playing, you better

885
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: do it quickly. And and they just couldn't do it.

886
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: And the Chiefs were still in the in the contention,

887
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: still in the hunt for a while, and eventually got

888
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl where you know, again the offense

889
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 2: wasn't great, the two touchdowns and one of them wasn't overtime,

890
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 2: but the way the team played, the way the defense played,

891
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 2: the belief in in in their their style of play.

892
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: This is why having a Patrick Mahomes is so important.

893
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 5: It's not.

894
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: It's obviously for what you can do on the field,

895
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: but really the mental part of having the Mahomes. And

896
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: I was fortunate enough to play with Eli Manning and

897
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 2: we didn't win a Super Bowl with the Giants, but

898
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: I was with him. I was with Alex Smith as

899
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: well in Kansas City. And when you have a quarterback

900
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 2: like that, you always play with sort of an abundance

901
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: of overconfidence, because you know that that guy at any

902
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: point can get you right right, can get you to

903
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: the point where even if things are struggling, even if

904
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 2: you give up a bad play on defense, or this

905
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,959
Speaker 2: thing goes bad or that goes bad, that quarterback will

906
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: make you right in the end. And so guys play

907
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 2: with a little bit less fear of mistake, They play

908
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: a little bit faster. They play with an arrogance that

909
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: probably is too high, but it doesn't matter because when

910
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes will say right, Tom Brady will save you,

911
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: and that that that mindset allows the Chiefs and other

912
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 2: teams to say, okay, well we gave up ten points,

913
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: we made a mistake, we fumbled, we didn't catch a ball,

914
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 2: we made a bad throw, and have the arrogance and

915
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 2: none of it matters in the end. And I think

916
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 2: that is what the Chiefs will always have with Patrick Mahomes.

917
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, going back to what we talked about last hour,

918
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: right the the margins of victory and just knowing you've

919
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: got that guy. I tried to make the argument that

920
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: Leo Chanal should have been the the m VP.

921
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: I think it would be Trent McDuffie oh.

922
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: I see, there you go. I'm just trying to go

923
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: off the board, right, So I mean I think it

924
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: creates the fumble blocks the p a t yeah, like

925
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: trying to get a little cute, but you know.

926
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: I mean I think that Pat was going left anyways,

927
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,959
Speaker 2: which which would have which would have been pretty interesting

928
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: to talk about, you know, with with with Jake Moody,

929
00:45:54,600 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 2: but Trent mcduf there were so many plays where Trent McDuffie,

930
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 2: the second year corner for the Chiefs was an All Pro,

931
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: and Lajarious Steed, who was their other corner, who allowed

932
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: the lowest completion percentage in the NFL under fifty percent,

933
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: and he allowed one touchdown in the regular season. I

934
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 2: think he allowed two in the postseason one while actually

935
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: was in the Super Bowl to Jennings. Those guys physically

936
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 2: physically imposed themselves on the forty nine ers wide receivers

937
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 2: like they were placed where you know, Trent McDuffie had

938
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 2: debo hemmed up and then on the other side sneed

939
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: like put a yuke in the ground like. It was

940
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 2: remarkable to watch those guys work. And when you have

941
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: players like that on defense, it allows you to do

942
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 2: a lot of different things on defense especially you know,

943
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 2: play a lot of man coverage with your pressure schemes,

944
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 2: and that ability to do that allows you the freedom

945
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 2: to bring multiple different players. And we said, we saw

946
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: that the Chiefs do that, but allows you to get

947
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: home a little bit fatter when you guys have you know,

948
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 2: when you have players that are playing tight man coverage.

949
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: So it all worked together. The scheme worked well for

950
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. And again, I mean I hate using sort

951
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 2: of the metaphor of knocking them off, you know, after

952
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 2: the prey. I but like you have to sort of

953
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: end them right, like you have to. You have to

954
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 2: put the nail on the coffin when you're playing the Chiefs.

955
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: If you leave them that little bit open. The niner

956
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 2: should have been up more than ten to three, right

957
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: and that you know, like you gotta be up seventeen

958
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 2: three or twenty four to three, and they weren't, and

959
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 2: that that cost them in the end.

960
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you let them hang around. It's one or two players.

961
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the the muffed punt will live on forever,

962
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: the unfortunate.

963
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, champions always have you know a

964
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: little bit of luck, you know, like it's just the

965
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 2: way it works, You're not You don't win without some luck.

966
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 2: So that just happens, you know. I know probably the

967
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 2: Niners fans hate to hear that, but that's sort of

968
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 2: part of football.

969
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: Well, the ball's got to bounce your way. I mean again,

970
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 1: Chicago kids. So I go back to, I mean, take

971
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: either of the Bears defensive efforts to get them to

972
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, either dancing over the Patriots or getting

973
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: beat by Peyton Manning. Like that whole team was Devin

974
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: Hester and the defense scoring points leading him to that

975
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: date in Miami where the most memorable thing for me

976
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: is new Hall of Famer Devin Hester's kick return and

977
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: then waiting for Prince because that was the only the

978
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: only thing in that day that went right. So you know,

979
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: but it takes the ball bouncing your way and maybe

980
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: right up into your gut for a return now and

981
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 1: again that makes it work. But you know, the forty

982
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: nine ers control that game and then all of a sudden,

983
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: one play, sixteen yard touchdown pass and all of a

984
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: sudden we got ourselves yep, a completely different deal. And

985
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: then Spagnolo, I guess that would be the next talking

986
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: point out of it. Jeff is you know, kind of

987
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: the appreciation post for him. So good right of changing

988
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: out of the zone and what Purdy was able to

989
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: do and then relying on McDuffie and sneed to go

990
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: make plays.

991
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: I mean, they don't put assistant coaches in the Hall

992
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: of Fame because most of them end up, you know,

993
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: like Belichick, right, you end up going to you know,

994
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: be a head coach and having success. Not a lot

995
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: of coaches are like Steve Spagnolo that you know, was

996
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl winning coordinator with the Giants. Remember he

997
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: was the coordinator for the seventeen that beat the Patriots,

998
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 2: who are undefeated at the time, and he went to

999
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 2: Saint Louis and really struggled and and you know, maybe

1000
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 2: not all his fault and that during that time, and

1001
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: then he went, you know, kind of bound around his

1002
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 2: assistant and found his way back to Kansas City in

1003
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, has won two Super Bowls, I mean, three

1004
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: Super Rowles since then. He's the most He's the assistant

1005
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 2: coach with the most Super Bowls, the coordinator with the

1006
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: most Super Bowls. I think NFL history is a strictly coordinator, right,

1007
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 2: And you know, again this goes back to the idea

1008
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,439
Speaker 2: of sort of luck. And I'm not sure the Chiefs

1009
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: are lucky here, but they are lucky. The fact that

1010
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: their defensive coordinator is not a Covenant head coach. How

1011
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 2: many of these teams, the Niners are good example, Robert

1012
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: Sala Demico, Ryans, any one of their offensive staff. They're

1013
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 2: getting posted every year, right, Kansas City has nobody poached.

1014
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 2: Steves An always staying every year. He's not going anywhere.

1015
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: Well, you didn't even have the enemy left. He wasn't post.

1016
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: It was just a all right, this has to be the

1017
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: natural push, right.

1018
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 2: And he might come back. So they have they have staff,

1019
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 2: you know, the staff each season, like the same staff

1020
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: each year, which is I think huge and important to

1021
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 2: a lot of success. And and so what Spags is done,

1022
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 2: man is incredible. The according to d VOA, which is

1023
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,240
Speaker 2: an advanced stat created by Aaron Chats He's with ftn

1024
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: bets now. It's it's a really important number and a

1025
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 2: lot of people use dva It's an efficiency number. The

1026
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 2: teams with the three highest dvoas to not win a

1027
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: Super Bowl the O seven Patriots, the twenty three forty

1028
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: nine Ers, the nineteen to forty nine Ers, those are

1029
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: teams that all played a Steve Spanola defense.

1030
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: Well, start pushing that Hall of Fame.

1031
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 2: I mean, he he's incredible. So it's it was a

1032
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: year the Chiefs were not supposed to win. But this

1033
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 2: year again, I mean I could point of many things

1034
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 2: they do well besides Mahomes. I mean they have they

1035
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 2: have just dude, they have nailed their drafts the last

1036
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: three years, you know, I mean the amount of young

1037
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: players on defense, on offensive at create Humphrey and and

1038
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: Trey Smith and Rashie Rice is going to be good

1039
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: in Isaiah Pachaco obviously, and even Noah Gray is the

1040
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 2: sort of depth piece what they did with signing and

1041
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 2: Drew Trinkle. You mentioned Leo Chanel's a draft pick, and

1042
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: so is George Carl Loftus, and so is you know,

1043
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 2: Willie Gay and Nick Bold. I mean you go on

1044
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 2: and on of these home runs, they've hit it in

1045
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 2: the draft as well. So they're pairing the obviously the

1046
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: very talented quarterback and tight end and Chris Jones as well,

1047
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: probably three Hall of famers and then in Hall of

1048
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 2: Fame head coach and a Hall of Fame caliber defts

1049
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 2: coordinator with all these young players that have been able

1050
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 2: to successfully hit the ground. And it goes to coaching

1051
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 2: obviously and drafting the right guys and this this team

1052
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 2: together has formed this dynasty which you look at the

1053
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: AFC right now, you have the contenders, I think, right

1054
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 2: obviously the Bengals, so Joe Burrow can't stay healthy, right

1055
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 2: Like Joe Burrow is the one one you know, the

1056
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 2: quarterback who is who is for so many years obviously

1057
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: being Patrick Mahomes. You have who the Ravens who can

1058
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: sing to get over the hump? Right we have the

1059
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: Bills who again, the Chiefs sort of own the postseason

1060
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: right now. At some point they get over the hump.

1061
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 2: We think the Chargers might be good with Harbaugh. The

1062
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: Dolphins I don't think are good enough to beat the

1063
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 2: Chiefs at the moment. I mean they're just who's who

1064
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: is who you putting your money on to actively take

1065
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 2: down the Chiefs right now? The answer is nobody, No,

1066
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: it's it right.

1067
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: The division seemed like based on the offense, right being

1068
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 1: what they were middling. I think they were like fifteenth

1069
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: fourteenth or something. Yeah, and efficiency shats you mentioned his name.

1070
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: I think he got more Noe ride even though everybody

1071
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Speaker 1: uses DVOA or reference sitting out. Yeah he got more

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Speaker 1: for voting for Patrick, for Josh Allen in the MVP,

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Speaker 1: anything else.

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Speaker 2: If you just dude, it's that's a great example of

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00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 2: group think, right, just kind of sort of gone wrong.

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Speaker 2: Entering Christmas, which I think was week sixteen of the

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Speaker 2: NFL maybe seventeen, the Ravens and Niners are playing each other,

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00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 2: right and heading to that game and was like, wow,

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Speaker 2: you know, is it pretty the MVP is Lamar the MVP,

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Speaker 2: and Josh Allen sort of get back in the races

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00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott. There wasn't even a firm MVP.

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Speaker 1: Did we have a favorite? Eight different time, like, yeah,

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00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: it was a favor.

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00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 2: Two, it was a favorite at one point. And so

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Speaker 2: there wasn't even a consensus of who the MVP is.

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00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson wins the MVP, and people are upset that

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00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 2: he wouldn't get fifty votes, that he wasn't unanimous MVP,

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00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 2: even though like two went the end of the season

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00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: and everyone was like, I don't know, man, who MVP is?

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Speaker 2: It seems very odd that that was the response. Was

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Speaker 2: the anger that one guy went against Lamar Jackson was good.

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Speaker 2: This year. He was not unanimous MVP good. No, he

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00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 2: just wasn't. And the idea that everyone got so angry

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Speaker 2: with Aaron chats if you read the article, I would

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Speaker 2: advise people that want to maybe get smarter about his

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00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: decision or about football reader's article. I mean, it made

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Speaker 2: total sense. He laid it all out. It wasn't a

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00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 2: bad it wasn't a bad vote. And I that just

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Speaker 2: sort of sums up the internet, right, a bunch of

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Speaker 2: people angry about something for really no apparent reason, without

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00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 2: any sort of knowledge or or or or factual basis

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Speaker 2: to what they voted on just two weeks beforehand.

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Speaker 1: Well, they were the number one seed. He had to

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Speaker 1: be knowing the m VP. Look what he did when

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00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: everybody was sitting around and avoiding their families during the

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Speaker 1: Christmas holidays.

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Speaker 2: But that Ravens, But that Ravens win I think was

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00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: it was more about like brock Purty in the in

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00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: the Braves.

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Speaker 1: In the hands right, Lamar.

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00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 2: Playing like exceptionally well too. So that's why it was

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00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 2: so odd that people were so angry with Aaron that

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00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 2: he voted for Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: Well, but that's what we do because again wed Hot

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00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: take nonsense earlier and that's where we get it in

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Speaker 1: full drove. We're coming up next year at the tirerack

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Speaker 1: dot Com studios, Kirk Cousins mit return to Minnesota, maybe

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Speaker 1: another venue for his final years in the NFL. What

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Speaker 1: did the betting odds say and what do we say

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Speaker 1: is the best fit? We'll talk about it next. He's

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Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz on Mike Carbon. This is Fox Sports Sunday

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, Greenies and welcome back in Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radios, Fox Sports Sunday Mike Carbon alongside Jeff Schwartz.

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Speaker 1: Find him on Twitter slash x at Jeff Schwartz for

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00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,720
Speaker 1: all that he's got going on breaking down the world

1126
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: of college pro football betting angles, all of that fun stuff.

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Speaker 1: And of course as we go through in the postseason,

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Speaker 1: we start getting into combined stuff and try to figure

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Speaker 1: out whereabouts of future future stars, not only from the

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Speaker 1: draft perspective, Jeff, but start the carousel turning of where

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks end up in free agency, maybe via trade, Yeah,

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00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: of O to my Chicago roots. So the Justin Fields,

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, noise Draft Killer Williams. It's like cicadas at

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Speaker 1: this point though, Jeff you know, it's really the.

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Speaker 2: Done with it. Draft Killer Williams and be done with it.

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Speaker 2: What are we doing? Bears?

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Speaker 1: They're the Bears, Jeff. I forget what the meme was

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00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: off that Simpsons thing we did last hour, but it

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Speaker 1: was it really just spoke to me of yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is what we do.

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Speaker 2: Just it's a very simple. It's very very easy. Either

1142
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 2: draft Kaleb Williams or you trade the two and let

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00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 2: someone else draft them and take you Drake May. You

1144
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 2: cannot leave the twenty twenty three NFL Draft and twenty

1145
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 2: two four NFL Draft without a single quarterback. That'd be malpractice.

1146
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 2: Everyone should be fired. It might be anyways, but everyone

1147
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: should be fired. That would be That would just be

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00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 2: really really stupid.

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Speaker 1: Well, still a lot of folks wondering how Eberflus got

1150
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: the stay of execution. I know, once Montes Sweat showed up,

1151
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: the defense was better. He brought in an analyst up

1152
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: top that helped calm things down. I'm still wondering what

1153
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: happened to Alan Williams. Do you know what happened to

1154
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: Alan Williams, their former defensive coordinator. I don't think we've

1155
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: heard anything about his whereabouts after his disappearance. That became

1156
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: a running bit every Sunday morning, Where's Alan Williams. I'm

1157
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: like the guy holding up the sign at a WWE event, Hey,

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00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: where's Alan Williams. But so the fact that he got

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Speaker 1: to stay, and we were just talking about continuity consistency

1160
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: in organizations so few of them in our NFL are

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Speaker 1: really in most professional sports anymore, the turnout of coaches

1162
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: and gms being so rapid. But for the Bears, you know,

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00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: justin fields like to me, still holds the ball too long,

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00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: ball security an issue. Gets he's now a member of

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Speaker 1: the Raiders, who spoke so highly of him after the fact,

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Speaker 1: taking the high road there of whatever the ills were

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Speaker 1: between them during the year, Jeff. But to your point, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: at this point it's you have to take Caleb Williams

1169
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: and if it fails, then it fails, right, But if

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Speaker 1: you don't take the shot. So I never faulted them

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Speaker 1: for the Trubisky pick, even though Deshaun Watson seemed like

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Speaker 1: the obvious pick, and hindsight says Patrick Mahomes should have

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Speaker 1: just been number one and they canceled the rest of

1174
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Speaker 1: the draft. But you know, if you know your guy,

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Speaker 1: go get your guy and live and say it.

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Speaker 2: So the thing about the Trubisky one is it's not

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Speaker 2: actually that wasn't the pick the Bears, I mean messed up.

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Speaker 2: They should have drafted Watson. Like, no one knew Mahomes

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Speaker 2: would be Mahomes. Watson was available, so like it's I

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Speaker 2: think it's kind of silly to say that that they

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Speaker 2: missed on on Mahomes. Yeah, of course, yeah, but Watson

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Speaker 2: was a guy that was available. And obviously now that

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00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 2: that pick looks a little different, but that would have

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Speaker 2: been the guy who I think that you know, obviously

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Speaker 2: in hindsight, who they should have drafted.

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Speaker 1: Right, No, I agree one hundred percent. And then obviously

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Speaker 1: you go down the down what that trade did and

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00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: made the point going into the Super Bowl. Remember the

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00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers did victory laps after taking Solomon Thomas.

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Speaker 1: But the one thing they did get out of that

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Speaker 1: that trade was they eventually got Fred Warner the following

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Speaker 1: year because they got that third round pick.

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Speaker 2: From the Bears.

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Speaker 1: So there you go, there's that value. But one of

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Speaker 1: the other guys that's on the board, Kirk Cousins coming

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Speaker 1: off a huge injury, obviously the biggest moment for the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers in their final game, was him shirtless

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Speaker 1: with chains on because they didn't show up after kickoff

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Speaker 1: of that one. But he's a short favorite to stay

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota. And then you've got Atlanta, New England and

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Speaker 1: the Raiders as the next three teams on the board.

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Speaker 2: Man, this one's tough, you know. I think I can

1203
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Speaker 2: argue that Minnesota probably needs to just go young and

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Speaker 2: start the process over again. I've been kind of staunching this,

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Speaker 2: uh this take that. You know, if you don't have

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Speaker 2: a quarterback in the future, you should try to get

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Speaker 2: one every off season. And if you're a team with

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Speaker 2: the Vikings, you's had Cousins obviously, it's just you're not

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Speaker 2: gonna get the super role with him. I think now

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Speaker 2: is the perfect time to just sort of cut bait

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Speaker 2: and go young and sort of not rebuild it. They're

1212
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Speaker 2: not going to rebuild with but just sort of refresh. Right,

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Speaker 2: That's the way I would handle it. I understand if

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Speaker 2: you're a team like who do you mentioned that the

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Speaker 2: Falcons are one of them?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Falcons are next up. They're at three to one, Patriots

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Speaker 1: at five to one, and then you got the Raiders

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Speaker 1: at eight to one.

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Speaker 2: I argue all of them need quarterbacks, but the next

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Speaker 2: of them. Sorry, the problem is all of them aren't

1222
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Speaker 2: gonna get quarterbacks in this draft. So that's where sort

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Speaker 2: of that's the hard part of the thing about this

1224
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Speaker 2: discussion is like there's no guarantee they're going to get

1225
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Speaker 2: anyone in the draft, and then you have to decide. Obviously,

1226
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Speaker 2: the coridge is before the draft, how do you handle that?

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Speaker 2: You know, how do you handle that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess New England is the one that stands

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Speaker 1: out right they're in a spot to draft one of

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Speaker 1: the top quarterbacks. I think they sort of have to

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Speaker 1: do right if they I would agree, right, it's it's

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Speaker 1: time for the complete reset, I know, coming off his

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Speaker 1: pending release and the getting popped for not getting the

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Speaker 1: exemption and all that. Jimmy Garoppolo folks are and now's

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Speaker 1: the time going back to New England.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this draft is fairly interesting because you know, people

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Speaker 2: are now talking about j Jim McCarthy is a high

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Speaker 2: draft pick as well. So does that sort of change

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Speaker 2: you know, if you're picking nine to ten to eleven

1240
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Speaker 2: to twelve, who I think that's not the right place

1241
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 2: to pick a quarterback. In this draft, but maybe McCarthy's

1242
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 2: the guy that you can take in that which changes

1243
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 2: obviously some of the teams that we're talking about right now.

1244
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Speaker 2: So I'm sort of very interested to see sort of

1245
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 2: where how this sort of all all works itself out

1246
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 2: of the end. I would say Cousins is not on

1247
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,439
Speaker 2: the Vikings this year and they decide to start over

1248
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Speaker 2: with the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: The McCarthy talk is, to me, is absolutely fascinating. First

1250
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 1: like first round, like one of those guys that maybe

1251
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: two three weeks ago seemed like a back end first

1252
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: round was the chatter, and now all of a sudden

1253
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 1: talked up and we're hearing you know, the early teens,

1254
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: maybe you know, the back end even of the top ten.

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Speaker 1: And I'm trying to trying to, having watched a lot

1256
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Speaker 1: of Big ten football in Michigan football, like is he

1257
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Speaker 1: that guy to push you over or does it become

1258
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: the Hey, we got a guy that can come in

1259
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: and if we've got a system that we've already got

1260
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: a few players can run a system and not make

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Speaker 1: the big mistake.

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Speaker 2: All right, So I at times have sort of given

1263
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Speaker 2: up on evaluating quarterbacks.

1264
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Speaker 1: Hey, it's it's it's dicey business, because.

1265
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,919
Speaker 2: You know, I was certain a guy like Josh Allen,

1266
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 2: who was not accurate in college and you know, would

1267
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 2: not be accurate in that fel And to be fair,

1268
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 2: he is more of an outwigher than border the norm.

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01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 2: So I understand, you know, if i'm you know, we'll

1270
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 2: wish to wash on him. That that that I should that

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01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 2: shouldn't change my opinion of everyone else, certainly fair, But

1272
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Speaker 2: I uh, I didn't see things from McCarthy very often

1273
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 2: and enough to think to myself, this guy has what

1274
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 2: it is right. He didn't have to throw the ball

1275
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 2: very much, which I understand in his offense. And even

1276
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 2: then there were times when he would have throws and

1277
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 2: you'd be like, what is this sure? Even even in

1278
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 2: the in the championship game, he had a throw where

1279
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 2: he hit I think it was Wilson on a deep cross,

1280
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 2: like incredible throw. You're like, oh, he between the linebacker

1281
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 2: and safety, like heck of a throw. You're like, oh

1282
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 2: my god, buddy, this is this is great. And then

1283
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 2: he had the next throw was empty and just missed

1284
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 2: the guy by four yards. And that is what would

1285
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 2: infuriate me as an evaluator. And I think you have

1286
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 2: to decide if that's something that will change in the

1287
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 2: NFL because he'll play a more pass happy offense, you'll

1288
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 2: focus on him throwing the ball more. Or is this

1289
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: something that just sort of is what he is as

1290
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 2: a quarterback. And that's the hardest part of the valhuation.

1291
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 2: I feel like there are times that I think that

1292
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 2: he looks like he can do it. The inconsistency really

1293
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 2: bothers me, you know, like, and I think there is

1294
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 2: some of the concerns I have with him where Like

1295
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 2: so I've always been a Herbert guys, and I watched

1296
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 2: every snap in college. Sure I thought that he was

1297
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 2: better than people give him credit. Focused part of it

1298
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 2: was his offense held and back. I mean, that's sort

1299
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 2: of what I'm talking about with McCarthy, I guess, but

1300
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 2: I just don't see it quite the same that I

1301
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 2: saw with you know, with Herbert.

1302
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: Well, I think from where I sat with Herbert, you

1303
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 1: just saw that ease of flow, ease of throw, and

1304
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: that consistency, the arm strength and ability to hit outside

1305
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: the numbers enough. Whereas with McCarthy, again, I don't know

1306
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 1: how much of that is what's called versus what he's

1307
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: capable of but to your point, missing some of those

1308
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: what seemed gimmes in big spots just as often as

1309
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: he hit the other ones. I mean, for Herbert, obviously,

1310
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: this is the year that everybody's expecting that next leap.

1311
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: Although with the Chargers I think we've been doing that

1312
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 1: for how many years now, go back to the middle

1313
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 1: of the field, Rivers years with all of that. But

1314
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: but now you've got a horrorball and all these guys.

1315
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: And for me, as you know, the Bears guy, I

1316
01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: mean Mark Tressman has a job in the NFL again

1317
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: as an analyst. So there you go. Everything old is

1318
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: new again.

1319
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 2: They just keeps coming back, right, Yeah, crazy.

1320
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: Right, it keeps getting recycled. But but I mean for

1321
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: the Chargers, I mean every year it's the how do

1322
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: you keep guys healthy? I mean, what else can you do?

1323
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: An exorcism in the locker room At this point, well, I.

1324
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 2: Think at this point with they've they've changed everything. Sometimes

1325
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 2: it just worked itself out, and changing coaches, changing culture,

1326
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 2: changing strength coaches all helps you get to a better

1327
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 2: place physically and mentally.

1328
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I certainly need a little more of that here,

1329
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: and I know our gut Isaac Lohenkron working with the

1330
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: Chargers has been vexed for years with the amount of

1331
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,919
Speaker 1: games misdue to injury. Let's see if he has any

1332
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 1: commentary on that and the rest of the sporting universe

1333
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: as we continue here, hi Ilo.

1334
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 4: No commentary. More like Stark depression, the question is can

1335
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 4: the will of Jim Harbaugh over come it? Relentless enthusiasm

1336
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 4: unknown to mankind. Unfortunately, the Daytona five hundred could not

1337
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 4: overcome mother Nature because it has been postponed because of

1338
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 4: inclement weather. Originally scheduled for today, instead, it's now been

1339
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 4: postponed until four pm Eastern Time on Monday, NBA All

1340
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 4: Stars Saturday Night saw the G League's Mac McClung win

1341
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 4: the Slam Dunk Contest for the second straight year. Jalen

1342
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 4: Brown of the Boston Celtics finished second. Damian Lillard of

1343
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 4: the Milwaukee Bucks won the three point Shootout for the

1344
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 4: second straight season. He beat Atlanta's Trey Young on the

1345
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 4: final shot of the final rack, becoming the first repeat

1346
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 4: champion in the three point shootout since Jason Capono in

1347
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,439
Speaker 4: two thousand and eight. Also on All Stars Saturday Night

1348
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 4: and the duel between Steph Curry and Sabrina Unescou from

1349
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 4: three point range. Curry prevailed twenty nine to twenty six

1350
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 4: golf after three rounds of the Genesis Invitational at Riviera

1351
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 4: Patrick Cantley as a two shot lead at fourteen under

1352
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 4: par overall. And a follow up regarding the Genesis Invitational

1353
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 4: back on Friday, Jordan's Speeth was disqualified from the event

1354
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 4: for signing an incorrect scorecard.

1355
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: Well.

1356
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 4: Fellow golfer Xander Shoffley has since said that the miscue

1357
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 4: was caused by a how can I put this delicately

1358
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 4: bathroom related emergency?

1359
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,440
Speaker 1: What was going through there? Everybody's got intestinal issues. I'm

1360
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: just astro intestinal problems.

1361
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 4: Tiger Woods as well, allegedly Shoftley telling reporters, quote, I

1362
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 4: heard he had to go to the restroom and came

1363
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 4: back and the card was wrong. We all kind of

1364
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:43,520
Speaker 4: know what goes on in there. It's really unfortunate it happened, unquote.

1365
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 4: And so the Riviera snack bar claims yet another.

1366
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 2: Man, they're dangerous attacker.

1367
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 1: You never know, we'll take you out of your game

1368
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: literally mentally off. Yeah, that's it, because you're thinking, you

1369
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: know where am I on the course, and I play

1370
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 1: out the rest of this hole before I have to

1371
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 1: go sprint or do that little uh purp walk kind

1372
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:07,919
Speaker 1: of thing, going yeah.

1373
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 2: Poor poor guy.

1374
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 1: That's a tough way to go though. It's also the

1375
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 1: how acidine it is that this can you imagined.

1376
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 2: Andy Reid signed the wrong like rushing total for the

1377
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,440
Speaker 2: Super Bowl and they get out this qualified.

1378
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 1: Your stats were wraw. Yeah, it's amazing to me. But

1379
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: you know, we we hit on this a little bit

1380
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 1: Friday night. But it is it does speak PG eight.

1381
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,679
Speaker 1: Isn't it joint?

1382
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, like like taking out like one of your best competitor,

1383
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 2: especially when Tiger's already out of the tournament. Yeah, but

1384
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 2: Tiger Tiger, by the way, tweeting out that he had influenza,

1385
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 2: like you said, but out like I was sex sorry,

1386
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 2: but he said influenza.

1387
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: It was great well because I think folks were wondering

1388
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 1: if he also had a a bad reaction to something

1389
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 1: he ate, uh and maybe had the bubble guts himself.

1390
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: So you say flu No, it wasn't that.

1391
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 2: I mean bubble guts, dude, bubble guts has happened. I have,

1392
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 2: I have unfortunately many stories bubble guts getting getting ruining

1393
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 2: days for me back when I used to eat a

1394
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 2: little bit worse than I eat now. So I get

1395
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 2: it golfers, you know, But how did the scorecard get

1396
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 2: altered because of the poop attack? That that's that's that's

1397
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,600
Speaker 2: just it, liked like did he was? He did? He

1398
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 2: did not fill out his scorecard and then in the

1399
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 2: bathroom did it because he was bored and got it wrong?

1400
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 2: Like how does the trip to the toilet affect the scorecard?

1401
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 2: That we need some investigative, We need someone on that

1402
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 2: who look at me?

1403
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:41,600
Speaker 4: Don't look at me?

1404
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 1: Did he did he misremember like Roger Clements that he

1405
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 1: he goes in and because he was so Anxietist that

1406
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: he missed a shot along the way.

1407
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 4: My guess is and by the way, who knows Mike

1408
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 4: for the premiere of a new word Anxietists? I love

1409
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 4: it you. My guess is. Rule he had to go

1410
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 4: directly to the scores tent before going to the restroom,

1411
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 4: and once you leave the scores tent, by rule, everything

1412
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 4: is official and final. So he was in how can

1413
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 4: I put this out violation? Too much of a hurry

1414
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:17,440
Speaker 4: to notice the oversight?

1415
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,759
Speaker 2: Wow, it seems like a rule that should be fixed.

1416
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: Seems like I should be able to, you know, put

1417
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: up a challenge flag to help me out here. Hey buddy,

1418
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 1: you know, I know protocol is this, but look, man,

1419
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make it. And I wore white today,

1420
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: so this is a bad.

1421
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 2: We also have technology that's tracking the scores.

1422
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: Yes, PGA, yo.

1423
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 2: How can you like you can't cheat the score anymore?

1424
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 2: Even if you could, what are they gonna do? Be like, well,

1425
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 2: speak you turn into seventy one, but it says you

1426
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 2: show a seventy three. Be like, oh, I guess I

1427
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 2: have a seventy three. Then you know, I don't understand that.

1428
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 1: That seems to be the way. But it's all about

1429
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: the integrit right, the sanctity of the competition or something

1430
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 1: like that.

1431
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 2: I think the sanctity of having your best golfers golf

1432
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 2: and a tournament. It's more important, I would agree.

1433
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 1: Having a final day with no speed and no uh

1434
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods kind of a big deal.

1435
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 2: Genesis opened. By the way, my my middle school was

1436
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 2: the parking lot for it. No kidding, that's right, by

1437
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:22,600
Speaker 2: the minute.

1438
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 4: Will Rogers, Paul Paul Rever, Sorry, yeah you went to

1439
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 4: Paul Revered.

1440
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 6: No kidding.

1441
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 4: I parked there before.

1442
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you went there. I parked there.

1443
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Same. I mean basically, i'd we had the same

1444
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 2: experience in middle school. You just it's just it's just

1445
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 2: a parking lot of your life. Just just middle school

1446
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,600
Speaker 2: stinks for everybody's all right, it's not fun at all. No.

1447
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 1: No, I did the uh the Catholic upbringing K you know,

1448
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: K through eight, so same people, and then get to

1449
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: high school and I never saw but like two of

1450
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: them ever again, is it?

1451
01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Catholic school wasn't in my in my my Jewish upbringing,

1452
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 2: so I got to skip that one.

1453
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: Well you gotta win. Well, I'm old enough to have

1454
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 1: gotten wrapped on the back of the head, wrapped on

1455
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 1: the knuckles, all all of this stuff, the stereotypes from

1456
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 1: oh yeah, and then I had football coaches whacking me

1457
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: in the head with whistles. But that's a whole other.

1458
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 2: I okay, So I'm sort of part of that, A

1459
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 2: tiny bit of that generation still was my college days.

1460
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 2: My first year in college, we have an offensive line

1461
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 2: coach that I've been doing it for like thirty years,

1462
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 2: and he would take his hat like hit it with

1463
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 2: it all the time. Yeah, like that was yeh, well

1464
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 2: we had.

1465
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 1: The other move was always the no, you got to

1466
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 1: come into this gap. I mean I was. I was

1467
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 1: in the husky section when we were shopping, so I

1468
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: was alignman. One year I did get cut weight enough

1469
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 1: to where they could take the stripe off my helmet

1470
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: until they challenged it in the playoffs, and I was

1471
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 1: a quarter pound over. So you want to talk about

1472
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: embarrassment and the strike.

1473
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 2: Tono trauma right there. Jeez.

1474
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1475
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,679
Speaker 2: Wait, so they I didn't play pee with football becuse

1476
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 2: I was too big and we just didn't play. I

1477
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 2: didn't play peavy football, so they would put a stripe

1478
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 2: on your head if you were too big. Yeah.

1479
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: So literally, if you like picked up a fumble, you

1480
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: had to just go to the ground because they feared

1481
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: you running over the little kids.

1482
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 2: Wow.

1483
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 1: So it was a you had weigh ins in the

1484
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 1: whole nine yard if they wanted to challenge it. And

1485
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 1: so I'd cut a couple of pounds because then they

1486
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: used me as a tight end and so I just

1487
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 1: ran over people after catching little because back then passing

1488
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 1: was also you know that really dating myself. Passing didn't

1489
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 1: exist in those leagues. But so catch the ball seems.

1490
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 2: Like not healthy to make kids have to cut weight.

1491
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 1: No, exactly, I was in a sauna the whole nine yards.

1492
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 1: We could pick this up on the other side because

1493
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 1: we got to go back to one more tactic from

1494
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: the line coach that I'm sure you would applaud. H.

1495
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that coming up. And I think Jeff

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Speaker 1: went to his first father daughter dance. We got to

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Speaker 1: get an update on how that went down, because I

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Speaker 1: remember my days when my kids actually wanted to hag

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Speaker 1: out with me in those ways way back in the day.

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Speaker 1: He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Mike Carmen. It's Fox Sports Sunday

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Speaker 1: Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. Harmon reliving some childhood Traumas

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Speaker 1: That's right, Fox Sports Sundays. Schwartz and Harmon appreciate you

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Speaker 1: being with us for any length of time this morning.

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Speaker 1: Find that collected experience at Jeff Schwartz to find him

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, find me over at Swollen Dome. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: were going through the trauma of little Mikey Harmon on

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Speaker 1: a football field, Jeff. The last one was the old

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01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,719
Speaker 1: hey you need to be in this hole and grabbing

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01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 1: the face mask and dragging you.

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01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 2: Over and oh yeah that might still be a thing.

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01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 1: Oh you could still do that one. Okay.

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01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're allowed to do it. Okay,

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01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 2: it's just as it is what it is. Yeah, I

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01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 2: mean that, you know, that's just it's so different now, right,

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01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 2: I think I think it's different in a good way.

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01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 2: You know. I don't think like players should be contacted

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01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 2: by coaches quite the same way they used to be, right.

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01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 2: I do think there's a little bit of like football

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01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 2: is just different than life, and so sometimes coaches are

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01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 2: going to say hard things to you. And you got

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01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 2: to deal with it as a player, and it makes

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01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 2: you look, you know, mentally a little bit stronger. But

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01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:47,440
Speaker 2: you know, the idea of like hitting players with objects

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01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 2: and grabbing face masks, and I mean that probably is best.

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01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,639
Speaker 2: It's out of the game. But hard coaching mean words

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01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 2: every now and then, that stuff to me feels you

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01:16:58,080 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 2: know acceptable still.

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01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I always took it even as my

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01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 1: kids they're older now they're teenagers, but when they were

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01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 1: in grade school, you'd always have people jockeying. Well, this

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01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 1: is the nicer teacher. I'm like, guess what not always

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01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: going to have nice folks that you work with, work for,

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01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: work around, And the earlier you get the you know,

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01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: teacher that may be a little more brusque, a little

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01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 1: more direct with what they want and how they expect

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01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:27,679
Speaker 1: the classroom to go, probably a good learning experience earlier,

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01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 1: rather than the shell shocked you know, a high school

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01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,719
Speaker 1: sophomore that suddenly is getting that for the first time.

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01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 2: I have many stories of coaches that were, you know,

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01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 2: harsh to me. I think nowadays it would be considered

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01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 2: harsh and just that you know, we're important in shaping

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01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 2: me as NFL player and you know, we had a

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01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 2: coach who in high school who's basically direct job it

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01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 2: was was to just make it hard on me, okay,

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01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 2: And part of it was he played college football at

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01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 2: a high level. He sort of knew that I had

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01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 2: the potential in me, but basically needed to toughen up

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01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 2: a little bit. And he took it upon himself to

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01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 2: just always make it tough on me, man like, just

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01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 2: he just called me out all the time. He said

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01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 2: maybe not the nicest things to me at times, and

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01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 2: his job was to make me tougher. That's what he

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01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 2: felt his job was and it worked. It took some time,

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01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 2: it worked, but that's sometimes what players need. And there's

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01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 2: a fine balance between that, sure and just you know

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01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 2: and a little bit of caddling. You have to find that,

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01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 2: you know what what that balance is.

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Speaker 1: And each player is going to be different. And we

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Speaker 1: start see that. We talk about it a lot, and

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Speaker 1: that's part of the draft evaluation we'll be doing for

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Right It's one of the first talking points

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Speaker 1: in my scroll, I saw you hit a father daughter dance.

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Speaker 1: How was that experience for you?

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01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 2: The most time we have here to make sure I

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01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 2: get this. I get this. I walk in so I'm

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01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 2: it's a sweetheart dance, right, that is advertised sweetheart dancer.

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01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 2: That to me is day darter dance. Get my daughter address,

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01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 2: I get a suit, look good in a show up.

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01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 2: The only dad dressed up. No, it was not dar dance.

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Speaker 2: It was a dance. I mean it was just made

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01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:46,480
Speaker 2: a school event. I mean there were just kids. Yeah, basically, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was very I was very sad. I was looking

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01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 2: forward to the whole day daughter thing. But yeah, no,

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01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 2: that was I was the only dad dressed up for

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01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 2: the event.

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01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. My daughters used to have the one of two experiences.

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01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 1: It was either they were excited because everybody wanted to

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01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 1: just come and ask me. Sports opinions. Okay, what do

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01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 1: you think of this? That the other So the girls

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01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 1: could go and be menaces somewhere else, or they were

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Speaker 1: clingy and trying to fight the dads off. So there

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Speaker 1: you go. He's Jeff Schwartz on Mike Carma. We continue

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Speaker 1: with more NFL post mortem on Fox Green Eggs. Welcome

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Speaker 1: in final hour of the program. Here on a beautiful

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Carmen alongside Jeff Schwartz, eight years

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Speaker 1: in the league, NFL college Football analyst, all things Sports,

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01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 1: all thing wagering. You heard them during the football season

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01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:40,719
Speaker 1: countdown to kickoff, he Bill and Brian know fantastic listen

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Speaker 1: and all the angles. We'll do the post Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: should be. Jeff Wracruzin right along. Two hours a blink

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Speaker 1: of an eye here watching sand volleyball. Okay, yeah, it's

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01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting. They go for corner kicks, and

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01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: they're like digging holes so they can get a cleaner,

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01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 1: cleaner kick at it like it's it's a very interesting

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01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 1: and much different game than I watch my daughter play

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01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:21,560
Speaker 1: most weeks.

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01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 2: I would imagine. So, yeah, beach volleyball, very California.

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01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:28,679
Speaker 1: Think, yeah, I've not seen a true bounce. The goalie

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01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: seemed absolutely perplexed when they actually field it cleanly coming off.

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01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait did you say beach soccer?

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01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 1: Beat soccer? I'm sorry, beat soccer.

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01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 2: There's a goalie in volume.

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01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's beach soccer.

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01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 2: Interesting, Okay, it is weird. I think college basketball starts now,

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01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 2: so you might be able to catch yourself in college.

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Speaker 1: Basketball that way. All right, I've got some English Premier

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01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 1: League as well. I can't believe I misspoken. Got volleyball

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01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 1: in Yeah, much different game. I changed. I more sports there.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like the ten send the pickleball into

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01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 1: whatever that'll morph into.

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01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the pickleball thing is huge.

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01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 1: Man's that's a knee surgery waiting to happen for me.

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01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: So I'm out.

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01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:13,640
Speaker 2: You know, I know, I'm with you. I just I

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01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 2: don't do anything I could get hurt. You know, like

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01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 2: my wife likes to ski. Now, all of a sudden,

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01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 2: you just developed the ski okay, and my kids and

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01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 2: family went to Whistler over Christmas to ski, and I

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01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 2: was like, Nope, not doing that, And people are like,

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01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 2: why don't you ski? I just I don't want to

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01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 2: have surgery again, and the idea of skiing just brings

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01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 2: up surgery. And I'm not getting hurt skiing. I'm just

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01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 2: not doing it. I've been hurt enough of my life.

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01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 2: I'm just not getting hurt doing something I don't care about.

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01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hit that point. I had a couple of

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01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 1: bats like that was how football ended for me. Early one.

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01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 1: No growth spurt too, a couple of bad knee injuries.

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01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 1: Back when they used to say I'm not signing off

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01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 1: on you, that's again showing me.

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01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 2: I mean they still do that now, but there's more,

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01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 2: there's advancements in medical technology.

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01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:57,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. So like back in the day, I was like,

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01:22:57,840 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 1: all right, they're starting a wrestling team. It's like, you

1658
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:01,600
Speaker 1: know what, you could go work with them in the

1659
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 1: weight cage and you can help, you know, in terms

1660
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,720
Speaker 1: of setup at all, But we're not signing off on

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01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 1: your knee. I'm like Okay, that's the end of that.

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01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 1: So skiing and all that other stuff for me went

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01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 1: off the table as well, Like, you.

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01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 2: Know what, I'm done, it's not worth it. Men.

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01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'll watch other folks do it. I'll marvel

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01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 1: in what they do. And even though I live out

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01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 1: here in California, now, you know, I was a landlocked

1668
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 1: Chicago and so learning to swim something I really never did.

1669
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: So the ocean, I have a healthy respect of it.

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01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm on a boat or I'm off it. That's about

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01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: where I'm at with it. So as we get ready

1672
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 1: for a big day, we've got the final round of

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01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:45,679
Speaker 1: the Genesis, no Tiger, no Speek. As we talked about

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01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 1: Daytona postpone, We've got the NBA All Star Game a

1675
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 1: little bit later here, Jeff, what's the over under on

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01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 1: how much time you'll spend watching it?

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01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:57,759
Speaker 2: It's at eight o'clock tonight.

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01:23:57,960 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, eight o'clock Eastern.

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01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 2: Let's see. There's no school tomorrow, right, but I am

1680
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 2: doing radio in the.

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01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 1: Morning, and you have True Detective to finish, to finish,

1682
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: and maybe Curb.

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01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Curb. I say to my wife, doesn't watch

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01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 2: Curb with me. She doesn't get it, it's ridiculous. It's

1685
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 2: a divorce her.

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01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 1: Well, he probably has been the genesis of many marital strife,

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01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 1: no question about it.

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01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 2: She doesn't. She doesn't. It's not her humor, and it's

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01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 2: it's very upsetting.

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01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 1: I've got a few of those in my life. You

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01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 1: try to hurt, like the one line, and they look

1692
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 1: at you like, what are you doing?

1693
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,919
Speaker 2: Like it's just it's such it's such an incredible show.

1694
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 1: Like trying to explain last week's episode to folks, like

1695
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 1: you get into some really weird places.

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01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,600
Speaker 2: You know, like he just says the things that I

1697
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 2: want to say sometimes to people. Yeah, So nonetheless.

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01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 1: You need to get that blank you money, Jeff, and

1699
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 1: then be able to say.

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01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 2: That it's just so good and it's an incredible show. No,

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01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 2: maybe the end to see if my underwager hits.

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01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 1: There you go, all right, let's get an updated, uh total,

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01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 1: see if we have any movement, probably Monday morning.

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01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 2: I wish I could pretend I cared about it. I

1705
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 2: just I I like sports. I like watching sports. I'm

1706
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,679
Speaker 2: not watching beach soccer, even though I guess I'm gonna

1707
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 2: try to find it now.

1708
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's different.

1709
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 2: What is F S two on direct TV. So like,

1710
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 2: I just I just can't do it. Who's even the start?

1711
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 2: Did did? Did you draft again?

1712
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:38,759
Speaker 1: No? So that went out the window as well.

1713
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 2: Because people were they they drafted backwards, because people were

1714
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:44,720
Speaker 2: sad that they were drafted last. Remember that whole thing.

1715
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 1: Well that's like you're still an All Star. You're still

1716
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:50,560
Speaker 1: collecting money for showing up. Shut up, you know what

1717
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 1: I mean.

1718
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 2: The softness of it sort of bothers me. You know,

1719
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 2: it just frustrates.

1720
01:25:56,080 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 1: Mettle east west back to additional four quarters, twelve met quarters,

1721
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 1: all of that f.

1722
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 6: S two is gonna be I feel six eighteen.

1723
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 1: See there you go. So you're gonna find us find

1724
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 1: your own beach soccer.

1725
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 2: Here's right here, your FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup. This

1726
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 2: is this is what this is what football, lack of

1727
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 2: football has done to us. Guys.

1728
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's still competition. Oh wow, yeah, it's different

1729
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 1: right watching soccer.

1730
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:32,679
Speaker 2: On in with the sand. Yeah, oh goalies like bring

1731
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 2: the ball up now, oh goal.

1732
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 1: Look at that you tuned and tuned in and you

1733
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 1: were good luck.

1734
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 2: Oh I if I could bound, this might be more fun.

1735
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I'm sure you can go find

1736
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 1: a line Shay, you know what to do, buddy log

1737
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 1: and SHA's on it our executive perform I'm on it,

1738
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 1: thanks to say, thanks to Christopher Fat of course, Isaac

1739
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 1: Low and crowd over the updates making us sound so

1740
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 1: pretty this morning. But yes we now I'll have something

1741
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 1: else for you to be entertained with. We've just expanded

1742
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:05,600
Speaker 1: your betting world.

1743
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 2: Soccer I get yeah, because I March eleventh, we get

1744
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:12,759
Speaker 2: legal sports wager in North Carolina.

1745
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 1: I cannot wait look at that. Yeah, I keep waiting

1746
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 1: here in the wonderful world of California. I guess I

1747
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:22,640
Speaker 1: can always drive to a I could either do the

1748
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: VPN or I could drive to the border, like I

1749
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 1: actually debated it last week after the show. I'm like,

1750
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 1: I can go drive and I'll go do some you know,

1751
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 1: football wagering. And then I said, now I want to nap.

1752
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: So I went napped three sixty two and a half.

1753
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 1: So creeping back towards your total. There is the last

1754
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 1: I'm seeing here, Jeff.

1755
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 2: I don't see any soccer odds on sand.

1756
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 1: All right, Well we'll keep on efforting that one along

1757
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 1: the way. But yeah, we talked about the All Star

1758
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 1: Game to start things off. All Star Weekend, the pageantry,

1759
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 1: and I think everybody does the hand ringing of all

1760
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 1: of these big events like this, right the I used

1761
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 1: to be set up for the Pro Bowl. Look, I'm

1762
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: the guy that for a decade was mad that the

1763
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 1: Blue Gray Game was no longer on Christmas morning because

1764
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: we'd have friendly wagers amongst the family. We'd go to

1765
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 1: church in the morning.

1766
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 2: Wait, you wager on the Blue Gray All Star Game? Oh?

1767
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, we had problems, Jeff.

1768
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 2: I remember that. I remember the least had the Loha

1769
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 2: Bowl on Christmas too.

1770
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, No. Look, if it was a sporting

1771
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 1: action that was friendly. I mean we used to bet

1772
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 1: on the PBA Tour, right so Earl Anthony and Mark

1773
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 1: Roth on Wide World of Sports with Shankle calling the action.

1774
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 1: I mean we had everything betting my grandma. Hey, it

1775
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 1: was fifty cents that this guy bowls three strikes in

1776
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 1: a row. I mean, we were degenerates, so naturally in

1777
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 1: this day and age, I guess I'm happy that wagering

1778
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 1: is not legal in California just yet. But we always

1779
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 1: did the horses. That's always been the big thing for

1780
01:28:55,400 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 1: the family is racing and harness. Racing. So we've got that,

1781
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 1: and we've got this beach soccer game going. We've got

1782
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 1: epl some college buckets getting started today. But the All

1783
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 1: Star Game, and I just go back to the Kevin

1784
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 1: Durant line that he used a couple of years ago,

1785
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 1: is like, if you don't like it, don't watch, right,

1786
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 1: go find something else to do. Games will go on,

1787
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,719
Speaker 1: much like the regular season in the NBA has. During

1788
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 1: the football season, teams played fifty games. And we were

1789
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 1: joking about it before. Outside of the Lakers, the Knicks,

1790
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 1: the Warriors, and maybe four or five other teams, right

1791
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 1: Doc Rivers getting the job with the Bucks, pretty much

1792
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 1: everybody else has just been able to go on and

1793
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 1: play their fifty games without a lot of national notoriety.

1794
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 1: And now we turn our attention with football over to

1795
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 1: where maybe the microscopes come out.

1796
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I think a lot of people obviously are

1797
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 2: are going to tune toward the background of the NBA.

1798
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 2: But I just think you look at it, we've seen

1799
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 2: over the years and if if you get in the

1800
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 2: postse in the postseason is just a different it's a

1801
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 2: whole different animal than the regular season because of the

1802
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 2: rest factor, Right, guys are not taking nights off in

1803
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 2: the playoffs right for the most part. Obviously there's no

1804
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 2: a b all end all or anything, but guys are

1805
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 2: taking nights off. The rest factor allows veteran players to

1806
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 2: just play better over the courts of a series. You know,

1807
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 2: I think we see defense returned to the NBA. I

1808
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 2: saw it. I'm sober yesterday talk about I mean it

1809
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 2: was you know and Friday talk about how you know,

1810
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 2: they're not so concerned about the lack of defense. They

1811
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:39,599
Speaker 2: just want games to be competitive. But no defense does

1812
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 2: come back in the postseason, all of a sudden, players

1813
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 2: figure out, oh we can I remember how to do that,

1814
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 2: and so it just becomes a different game. So you know,

1815
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 2: what happens to me, what happens now just sets up

1816
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 2: the postseason. If you get in, just get it. Like

1817
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 2: if you're a Lakers, just get in, right, just get in.

1818
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 2: And we saw last season and you're probably not beating

1819
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 2: the Nuggets again and whatnot. But as long as we

1820
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 2: get in, we have a chance. And I think that's

1821
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 2: the way a lot of teams look at the you know,

1822
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 2: at the postseason for the NBA and whites, I think

1823
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 2: tough sometimes to look at the regular season and really

1824
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 2: care where teams are seated, where teams may end up,

1825
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 2: who has who's homecourt, who doesn't, because it seems less

1826
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 2: important than maybe other sports.

1827
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the part of it for me is

1828
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 1: looking at the standings where we're at right now, with

1829
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 1: the exception of Joel Embiid, Like, I think we have

1830
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 1: all our stars playing. So if you could just advance

1831
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 1: to the playoffs right now, I think the NBA would

1832
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 1: be best served because I always have that clenching of

1833
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 1: the final thirty games of all right, am I getting

1834
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 1: all the stars to mid April?

1835
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1836
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 1: Because right now on the whole, I think the NBA

1837
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:50,519
Speaker 1: has been pretty lucky with most of their big names.

1838
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 2: That's the counter to the point about sitting out right

1839
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 2: is if it gets you to the endpoint of we

1840
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 2: start the postseason, everyone's healthy, then it's it's basically paid off,

1841
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 2: you know, and they've been incentivized players and teams have

1842
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 2: to to get to this point of the year. For

1843
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 2: that purpose. If you get to this point of the year,

1844
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 2: no matter how many games you haven't or haven't played,

1845
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,560
Speaker 2: have or have not played what was the Warriors? The

1846
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 2: last Warriors championship, right, like that starting line that played

1847
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 2: five games altogether to the regular season or something like that,

1848
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 2: and Semon same number ended up being championship. And so

1849
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 2: that's that's the incentive ized. You know, the the the

1850
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 2: the idea behind the team, the load management, right is

1851
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 2: you know Kawhi with with the Raptors and for so

1852
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:34,640
Speaker 2: many years like you just get to you get to

1853
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 2: the postseason and we'll play or a game and win

1854
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:38,520
Speaker 2: a championship.

1855
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 1: Well that's the hard part. I'm usually the bad guy

1856
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:44,479
Speaker 1: because in the end, if if that's the the goal

1857
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 1: is winning, if that's the price, I'm sorry for little

1858
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 1: Johnny and little Susie that went to that game and

1859
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 1: didn't get to see him. Yeah, you still saw the team,

1860
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 1: like I've I've.

1861
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 2: Been in that boat before though. Where I live in

1862
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 2: North Carolina than Charlotte, I'm a Lakers fan. I go

1863
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 2: to typically one or two games a year, and one

1864
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 2: of them's the Lakers game. This is a few years

1865
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 2: back now, and I bought good tickets and I brought

1866
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 2: my son and Lebron and Ad both not play.

1867
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:15,799
Speaker 1: They both sat out. So that's that's where it's the problem,

1868
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 1: where it's like you get the combo package.

1869
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:20,800
Speaker 2: And you're like, I just spent a lot of money

1870
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 2: on tickets. I told my son, I think Lebron ended

1871
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:25,960
Speaker 2: up having like a knee injury, but he played the

1872
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 2: night before and played the game after. You know those things,

1873
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 2: and you're like, I just I went all through all

1874
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 2: of this to watch the backups playing. And my son

1875
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 2: didn't care that much, but I cared. I was there

1876
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:40,599
Speaker 2: to watch Lebron play.

1877
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 1: Well and paid out of pocket.

1878
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:45,639
Speaker 2: Sure, I haven't been back to a game, the Lakers

1879
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:47,599
Speaker 2: game since then. You know that Lebron and ad both

1880
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 2: did play this season. It was a week of the

1881
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. I would have gone, and I think if

1882
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 2: I had the kid Bee, I was in. I was

1883
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. That's the hard part about the load

1884
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 2: management for Timmy.

1885
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 1: And you know, Susie like, well, it's that one time trip, right,

1886
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 1: That's that's where it's the problem. It's is when you're

1887
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:05,800
Speaker 1: out of conference for that one time a year. That

1888
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:08,680
Speaker 1: that's where I see the problem with it. But if

1889
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 1: you're missing, you know, the third game up in Sacramento.

1890
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 1: Sure it's fair, that's fair, But I get your point.

1891
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 1: You know, it's the one time the circus comes to town.

1892
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 1: I mean you want to see the circus, yes, and

1893
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 1: instead you've got, well, a lesser circus. I'm not going

1894
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 1: to name names, because there are other circuses out there

1895
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 1: that travel and take over your mall parking lots on

1896
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 1: a given weekend as well. He's Jeff Schwartz onp Mike

1897
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 1: Carmen here, Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. As we

1898
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:41,800
Speaker 1: continue go back in into the NFL, what happens at

1899
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 1: the quarterback position in Pittsburgh. We talk about organizational stability,

1900
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 1: We talk about long term sustained success, but obviously a

1901
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 1: big question mark there. How do we solve it? We'll

1902
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 1: talk about it next year on Fox. Hey, welcome back

1903
01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 1: in Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports or Radio. Mike Harmon

1904
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 1: alongside Jeff Schwartz having fun with you. Our buddy Hartman

1905
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:07,760
Speaker 1: has made his way into the hallways. So things have

1906
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:11,160
Speaker 1: gotten loud here, Jeff. That's the way it works. On

1907
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 1: a Sunday, everything's quiet, and all of a sudden you

1908
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 1: hear the voice come down the hallway, and well everything changes.

1909
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: One of the hot markets for quarterback consumption and speculation

1910
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:28,959
Speaker 1: this offseason, the Pittsburgh Steelers, right you've got Mason Rudolph,

1911
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:31,760
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett. We chronicled it the final weeks. I know

1912
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:34,839
Speaker 1: you guys did on countdown to kickoff? You know, basically

1913
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 1: a healthy scratch would I guess be the way to

1914
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:40,560
Speaker 1: put it. Yep, with Mason Rudolph getting the call and

1915
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 1: the belief there, Mike Tomlin gets them into the playoffs,

1916
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:48,439
Speaker 1: defies all expectations and I think logic in a lot

1917
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 1: of cases to reach that point. Just a fantastic run

1918
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 1: in the second half of the season. But the quarterback position,

1919
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 1: going back to the last couple of years of Ben

1920
01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:02,839
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger's tenure, Jeff, the one thing that we keep pointing

1921
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 1: to going well is this holding back, you know, and

1922
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 1: how how do you overcome it? You changed out your GM,

1923
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:12,520
Speaker 1: all of these things. What's the best fit for them?

1924
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 2: Okay, when we talk about NFL teams and their success

1925
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 2: or lock theore, we always talk about it through the

1926
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:23,840
Speaker 2: lens of expectations. Right, So, if you're Pittsburgh and you

1927
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 2: have your six year WORWLD championships, you're a premier franchise

1928
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 2: in the NFL. You have a coach that if you

1929
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:34,600
Speaker 2: were fired, would be hired within four seconds. You know

1930
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 2: he's a respected coach in this league. You have, you know,

1931
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 2: the the ownership and stable financial group. I give all

1932
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 2: the things that the lead to winning. Right, is your

1933
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:47,840
Speaker 2: goal to be to be in the hunt every year

1934
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:51,639
Speaker 2: for Super Bowl? Is your goal just to be sort

1935
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 2: of where you've been, which is a playoff team with

1936
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:58,480
Speaker 2: we're never we're never awful, right, but we're never great?

1937
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:01,559
Speaker 2: Or can you stum a couple of years of a

1938
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 2: pullback to become a lead again. I need to know

1939
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 2: what the expectations are for the Steelers because that'll give

1940
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:11,639
Speaker 2: you the answer to the quarterback if you are looking

1941
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:15,760
Speaker 2: for Okay, we're okay with maintaining our status that we

1942
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:18,720
Speaker 2: have now, which is a competitive team each year, not

1943
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:20,680
Speaker 2: going the super Bowl, but we're in the playoffs each year.

1944
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 2: Everyone talks about us. We're winning. Our fan base feels

1945
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 2: like they're engaged because we put up the wins. You

1946
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 2: know we're a playoff team, then fine, justin fields, you know,

1947
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:37,840
Speaker 2: some combination of troup of Kenny Pickett and Fields and

1948
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson. I mean, yeah, that'll get you, Mike in

1949
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 2: that conversation. Each year to be a playoff team to

1950
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 2: win nine games, to win ten games, to just be

1951
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:52,559
Speaker 2: in the conversation each postseason, that'll do it for you.

1952
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 2: But if your goal is to win a Super Bowl,

1953
01:37:56,080 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 2: then you have to you must find yourself a young

1954
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:03,719
Speaker 2: quarterback that will be the future of that franchise because

1955
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 2: Justin Fields is not that player. We've seen Justin Fields

1956
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:10,599
Speaker 2: now for three years. You're not winning a Super Bowl

1957
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 2: with Justin Fields as your quarterback. I don't care how

1958
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 2: the roster's bill around him, it's not happening. To win

1959
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:20,320
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. You have to be an efficient passer

1960
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 2: from the pocket, which Justin Field does not. So, Mike,

1961
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 2: what is the goal of the Steelers because that will

1962
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 2: determine what I think the proper thing to do this

1963
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 2: offseason with quarterback is.

1964
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would kill to have that that decision point

1965
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 1: right as my Chicago fandom we've talked about over the

1966
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 1: course of the morning, and Justin Fields is that guy, right,

1967
01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 1: We've looked at the odds and the Steelers are the

1968
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 1: favorite to add him.

1969
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 2: What does that do for them? Like? How do how

1970
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:51,719
Speaker 2: does that get you an If you have Justin Fields,

1971
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:57,439
Speaker 2: you have the maybe maybe at best, the third best

1972
01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 2: quarterback in your division. Yeah, I can argue the Browns

1973
01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 2: just in general, with the way they designed their offense.

1974
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who's playing quarterback.

1975
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 1: You have a fourth defense versus whatever, how many smith is.

1976
01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 2: Look at the division champions last season, any season, it's

1977
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 2: the best quarterback in every division, Like, it's not a

1978
01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:20,680
Speaker 2: surprise whose division winner is. And the idea that you

1979
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:23,719
Speaker 2: are willingly going to be like, you know what, We're

1980
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 2: not going to try to have a better quarterback than

1981
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, We're not going to try to have a

1982
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 2: better quarterback than Joe Burrow and just willingly accept that

1983
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 2: we're okay with with at best a third quarterback. I mean,

1984
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 2: that's fine with me. But just know you're not gonna

1985
01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl.

1986
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 1: No, And that's it year to year, right. I look

1987
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:42,559
Speaker 1: at it from the baseball perspective, would you rather be

1988
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:46,679
Speaker 1: the Florida Marlins and stink and then rally a couple

1989
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:50,680
Speaker 1: of times to win World Series titles? Or would you

1990
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:53,080
Speaker 1: rather be all right, we're getting to the playoffs, but

1991
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 1: we're not getting over I mean, certainly here in Los

1992
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 1: Angeles right with the Dodgers, the frustration, right, the expectations,

1993
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 1: what is it a und and three and a half

1994
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 1: I think is their win total for this year. Look,

1995
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:06,640
Speaker 1: but does it matter no, because all that matters is

1996
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:07,880
Speaker 1: locked over at this point.

1997
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:12,000
Speaker 2: So I'm a Giants fan in baseball, and you know,

1998
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:14,840
Speaker 2: we had the three championships in five years, right, ten, twelve,

1999
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:18,080
Speaker 2: and fourteen, And since then we've made a playoffs a

2000
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 2: couple times, but nothing great, right, right, And this year

2001
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 2: we're going to be average, you know, at best, and

2002
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:30,680
Speaker 2: I average sucks, man like it just it sucks, like

2003
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:32,599
Speaker 2: I don't want to be a fan of a team

2004
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:34,560
Speaker 2: that's averaged that to me feels like a waste of

2005
01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:37,080
Speaker 2: a season. Oh, within went eighty one to eighty one

2006
01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:40,559
Speaker 2: and lost in the wildcard round. Congratulations. I I'd rather

2007
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 2: be fighting for a World Series or like rebuilding, because

2008
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 2: then you have the hope of success later on. To me,

2009
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:51,800
Speaker 2: being in the middle as a sports fan is the

2010
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 2: worst place to be unless the one other option, you know,

2011
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:57,559
Speaker 2: one of the is a college football where he sort

2012
01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:01,439
Speaker 2: of you know, it's it's more you know in your

2013
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:05,040
Speaker 2: blood essentially, like you accept your school might win.

2014
01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:07,840
Speaker 1: Seven games, Yeah, but I mean you paid with your

2015
01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:10,640
Speaker 1: crime and effort whatever. Right, But I always had a

2016
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:13,920
Speaker 1: problem growing up to be adopting colleges. That's a topic

2017
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 1: for another time.

2018
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:17,680
Speaker 2: In professional sportsman, I either want to be trying to

2019
01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 2: win a championship or being bad with the hope that

2020
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:22,719
Speaker 2: it pays off to win championships later. In the middle

2021
01:41:22,760 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 2: of me is the worst place to be.

2022
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 1: I agree wholeheartedly. So, like we're talking about it a

2023
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:30,719
Speaker 1: little bit before even going to the Super Bowl result,

2024
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:34,000
Speaker 1: you'd rather not be on one decision or the execution

2025
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 1: of one play, right, the third down play. All you

2026
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 1: had to do was get a body on Chris Jones

2027
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:42,000
Speaker 1: to disrupt him for a quarter of a second, and

2028
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 1: you've got two options for touchdowns, right, you know, as

2029
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:49,800
Speaker 1: opposed to just getting blown out and failing failing spectacularly. Yeah,

2030
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:51,240
Speaker 1: it was a good run. But you know what, they

2031
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 1: were obviously the better team. Look the White Sox. I'm

2032
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:55,840
Speaker 1: a White Sox fan, right. I grew up on the

2033
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 1: South Side, so you know, the Cubs. It's a great

2034
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 1: outdoor bar Wrigley Field, maybe the best in America, But

2035
01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:06,160
Speaker 1: you know, otherwise it's a whole and I hate the Cubs,

2036
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 1: but it's my White Sox are projected to lose one

2037
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:13,559
Speaker 1: hundred games again, no matter what they do, rebuild, retool, whatever,

2038
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 1: it hasn't mattered. It's kind of like the Bears fighting

2039
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 1: in their division and everybody was looking to celebrate when

2040
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers left. Oh wait, there's that Jordan love guy.

2041
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:27,760
Speaker 1: Organizational stability wins for the Steelers. They've they've traded on

2042
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 1: that forever. I just wonder how many years you get.

2043
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:32,519
Speaker 1: And I love Tomlin as a coach. I had some

2044
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:35,080
Speaker 1: great interactions with him back when I used to tour

2045
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 1: training camps, some great hey talking points and teaching points

2046
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:41,720
Speaker 1: about what they were trying to execute in drills. But

2047
01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 1: how many years do you get after you know that

2048
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:47,639
Speaker 1: pinnacle success? And I know the Steelers are a different animal,

2049
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:51,760
Speaker 1: but it just goes to that larger, larger talking point, right,

2050
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:56,719
Speaker 1: go back to Marvin Lewis in Cincinnati or or Lovey Smith.

2051
01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:59,679
Speaker 1: After the few years with the Bears, the metrics were

2052
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 1: they they didn't beat division opponents, and they didn't win

2053
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:05,400
Speaker 1: late in seasons, so eventually you tune on. But for

2054
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:08,240
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, every year, you know they have one of

2055
01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:10,599
Speaker 1: these second halves to where you're like, well, I guess

2056
01:43:10,600 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 1: that there's no turning out.

2057
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:15,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, you see something that's so interesting to me about

2058
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:17,719
Speaker 2: a White Sox fan Hay in the Cubs.

2059
01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:19,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2060
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:22,960
Speaker 2: It. One thing that fascinates me about fandom is the

2061
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:28,679
Speaker 2: idea of like which fan base is dislike which which

2062
01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:31,920
Speaker 2: you know teams and why, because it does feel like

2063
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:35,639
Speaker 2: in pro sports, if there's two teams in the city,

2064
01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:41,160
Speaker 2: one team who sort of is like the the more

2065
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:46,600
Speaker 2: popular team, the more winning team tends to not dislike

2066
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:49,160
Speaker 2: the other one and tend like dislike someone else. So

2067
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:52,640
Speaker 2: for example, like the Giants, right their rivals with Dodgers,

2068
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:54,959
Speaker 2: not the A's, but the A's do not like the Giants.

2069
01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 2: You mentioned the White Sox, the White Sox just like

2070
01:43:57,400 --> 01:43:59,120
Speaker 2: I don't think Cubs fans do they care about the

2071
01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:00,080
Speaker 2: White Sox do they just like.

2072
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 1: Well, they like to sun them because of the just

2073
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 1: the overall popularity.

2074
01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:08,120
Speaker 2: But it feels like that that's the way in a

2075
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 2: lot of cities with two sports, Like the the Yankees

2076
01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 2: fans their rivals the Red Reds, not the Mets, and

2077
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:18,639
Speaker 2: the Mets fans do dislike the Yankees. The Angels fans

2078
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 2: just like the Dodgers, even though the Dodgers do not

2079
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:23,200
Speaker 2: care all about them. Clippers fans don't like the Lakers,

2080
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:26,720
Speaker 2: the Lakers rivals, the Celtics. Like, I it's interesting that

2081
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:30,439
Speaker 2: dynamic and and pro sports cities find interesting.

2082
01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean for us, it was the you know,

2083
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:35,000
Speaker 1: mom was a Cub fan, so maybe there was just

2084
01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:37,840
Speaker 1: an internal battle. My brothers and I were all White

2085
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:39,840
Speaker 1: Sox fans, and the White Sox were better when we

2086
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:43,000
Speaker 1: were kids, Jeff, when you got straight a's or perfect attendants,

2087
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 1: they were really generous with those rows of tickets they'd

2088
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:48,679
Speaker 1: give you. Oh really, So we went to a lot

2089
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:50,800
Speaker 1: of White Sox games for free.

2090
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:53,559
Speaker 2: If you if you got straight a's, they give you tickets.

2091
01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:55,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had, they had a deal. You got a

2092
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 1: pair of tickets for every a you got, you know,

2093
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 1: perfect attendance. Here's you know, pick from this list of games.

2094
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 1: Like I don't know if any of those programs still exist,

2095
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:06,800
Speaker 1: but you know, back in the day, it was all right,

2096
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:10,000
Speaker 1: we got free bleacher seats or whatever section they give us,

2097
01:45:10,439 --> 01:45:12,760
Speaker 1: and then you basically paid for parking and you were in.

2098
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:15,600
Speaker 1: So we went to a lot of games back in

2099
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:18,479
Speaker 1: the day. So that helped the loyalty brand. And then

2100
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:20,800
Speaker 1: they didn't they didn't capitalize on that, Like they went

2101
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:25,360
Speaker 1: away from a lot of those incentivizations and activations through

2102
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:27,519
Speaker 1: the years, and it's like Reinsdorf, what are you doing?

2103
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:30,320
Speaker 1: That was one of the best programs that you possibly had,

2104
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 1: you know, to cultivate young fans, to get them out

2105
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:35,160
Speaker 1: to the ballyard, because you always had a couple of

2106
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:37,760
Speaker 1: guys that were designated to go find those sections and

2107
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:40,879
Speaker 1: go sign balls or throw balls up into the stands.

2108
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:43,000
Speaker 1: Like it's you know, one of those great things we

2109
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 1: talk about a lot, I know, you know, with with

2110
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 1: with your kids and certainly you know with mind growing up,

2111
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 1: you take them to games, there's got to be something

2112
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 1: else going on, you know for them to stay engaged

2113
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 1: with you. And that was just fun of her.

2114
01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:58,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Baseball's decision to go to shorter games has been

2115
01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:00,720
Speaker 2: a home run, man, huge, Like when I go to

2116
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:02,840
Speaker 2: minor league games now in Charlotte with my kids, it's

2117
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:05,680
Speaker 2: so much I mean, you know, two innings, it's two

2118
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:07,800
Speaker 2: hours of getting seven and a half eight innings, which

2119
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:10,240
Speaker 2: is fantastic. It used to be four and a half

2120
01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:11,840
Speaker 2: five at the most. This is great. I love it

2121
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:12,200
Speaker 2: so much.

2122
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:15,320
Speaker 1: No, it is a beautiful thing. And certainly for what

2123
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 1: we do here in the evenings during the week, Jeff,

2124
01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:20,280
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you the God said to being able

2125
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:23,519
Speaker 1: to turn around sound because Major League Baseball is still

2126
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:26,800
Speaker 1: the only sport that has the embargo. So until that

2127
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:30,599
Speaker 1: final pitch is thrown, you can't play home runs, triple plays,

2128
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, like we can't play any of that

2129
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 1: sound until the game is a final.

2130
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Speaker 2: I just don't get baseball, man.

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Speaker 1: You know what. And look, they're one of those We were

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Speaker 1: talking about it before with the PGA rules on signing

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Speaker 1: cards and whatever, the Speef situation, bathroom emergency and whatever

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01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 1: else went on that. You know, other people are tracking this.

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Speaker 1: The broadcast is tragging it.

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Speaker 2: We know this.

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01:46:57,479 --> 01:47:00,639
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball did one thing really right, and everything

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01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:03,840
Speaker 1: else they are slow to conform. Like back in the

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Speaker 1: day when it was broadcasting out of market and then

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01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:11,800
Speaker 1: building the video components to be able to do so

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01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:15,000
Speaker 1: on WTV, they were ahead of the curve. They beat

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Speaker 1: everybody out of the gate on that, but for everything

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01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:20,160
Speaker 1: else they drag their feet. So the fact that we

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01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:23,360
Speaker 1: now have the pitch clock, it's Rob Manford's greatest thing.

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01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:27,640
Speaker 1: It'll never outweigh the Houston Astros. I'm gonna put my

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Speaker 1: head in the sand and call this thing, a hunk

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01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:32,320
Speaker 1: a metal thing. Yeah, but you know, if he gives

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01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 1: us shorter games, and maybe that's the way you get

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Speaker 1: people back involved, either on the television side or back

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Speaker 1: in stadiums. I'm all for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's smart that they, of course decided to do this.

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Speaker 2: The one other baseball thing that just and look, I

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Speaker 2: love baseball, man, I will watch the Giants are competitive.

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01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 2: I'll watch parts of one hundred games this year, and

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01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:59,519
Speaker 2: I like baseball a lot. Is the blackout policies are

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01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 2: completely add this world I live in mentioned thousands Charlotte,

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01:48:04,120 --> 01:48:08,599
Speaker 2: North Carolina. We have four teams that were blocked out,

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01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:14,240
Speaker 2: the Reds, the Orioles, the Braves, and the and the Nationals.

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Speaker 1: Like why two of the best teams to watch in baseball.

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Speaker 2: So the Giants are playing those teams. I have to

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Speaker 2: watch the local broadcast, and I have to pay for

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01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 2: that package, even though I already pay for MLB TV,

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01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:34,840
Speaker 2: which in theory should include all the games. It makes

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01:48:35,120 --> 01:48:35,679
Speaker 2: no sense.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's awful. Four Like they don't have one that

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01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:45,720
Speaker 1: claims the terror story for amazing that that's that's incredible.

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01:48:46,320 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 1: And the Orioles. I do a weekly hit in in

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Speaker 1: Baltimore each week. And I tell you nobody looks to

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01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:58,120
Speaker 1: turn the page off a football season faster than the

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Speaker 1: folks in Baltimore. Let's talk.

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01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:03,559
Speaker 2: Oils will be fun, man. They got a lot of

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01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:04,080
Speaker 2: young players.

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01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:06,599
Speaker 1: It's a fun that's a fun squad. You know it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be brutal navigating the Al East, but certainly you

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01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:12,760
Speaker 1: look at all the young stars they saw. Have a

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01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 1: couple of guys in the minor leagues that are ready

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Speaker 1: to come up as long as they get that rotation set,

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Speaker 1: a couple of guys injured to start spring training. And

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Speaker 1: there's my nerddom base I'm ready for baseball. I'm ready

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Speaker 1: for spring training in Earnest here, no question.

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 1: We also want to welcome our two new affiliates, new

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, Jacksonville nine thirty. I got in my

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Speaker 1: notes they told me to remind folks it's the largest

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Speaker 1: city in Florida, which I didn't know. There's a fun

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Speaker 1: fact and spot Fox Sports Radio Orlando ninety seven nine

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01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:47,880
Speaker 1: FM powerhouse and a ten am entertaining informing you each

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01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:50,960
Speaker 1: and every day around the clock. Of course here Fox

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01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:54,519
Speaker 1: Sports Sundays. So welcome aboard Fox Sports Radio Jacksonville nine

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Speaker 1: thirty am. Fox Sports Radio Orlando ninety seven nine FM

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01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:02,040
Speaker 1: eight ten am to the FSR family, I can add

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01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:06,680
Speaker 1: another two locations on the map, more fan bases to Uh,

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01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, get mad at me. I guess for

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01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:11,720
Speaker 1: things I said. I mean, I picked Jacksonville to go

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01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:13,960
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl this past year? How did that

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01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:18,600
Speaker 1: work out for me? I was on your side. Blame me.

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01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:21,280
Speaker 2: It wasn't your best call? Was it? Well?

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Speaker 1: I we we basically said we couldn't take chalk? Was

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Speaker 1: the deal smith that I made?

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01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:30,559
Speaker 2: I think we were all wrong about Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. No wrong.

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01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:39,040
Speaker 1: But it was the looking at the path of least resistance,

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01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:41,920
Speaker 1: looking at the growth year two of this and all

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01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:44,680
Speaker 1: of that. Buddy, I'm with you, and then, you know,

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01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:46,880
Speaker 1: looking at the odds and everything else. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm in and uh, well they got me. You know

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01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:52,800
Speaker 1: who else gets us? Because he's the smartest man in

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01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:55,479
Speaker 1: the room. Whenever he walks in, it's our guy, Isaac

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01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:57,960
Speaker 1: Lohenkron had Isaac Locow where you find him on Twitter.

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01:50:58,080 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 1: Let's get an update from our sporting universe.

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01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 4: Very very kind words, but not kind words for auto

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01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:07,400
Speaker 4: racing fans today because the Daytona five hundred was postponed

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01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 4: because of inclement weather, originally scheduled for today instead, it's

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Speaker 4: now been postponed until four pm Eastern Time on Monday,

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01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 4: and Mike and Jeff let's once again check in with

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01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:20,080
Speaker 4: NASCAR fans on social media to find out what they

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01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:24,400
Speaker 4: think about this development. Tyree commenting and I quote, it's

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four. Why have they not developed the necessary

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01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:33,719
Speaker 4: technology to race in the rain? Dreno, echoing Tyree's thoughts,

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01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:37,680
Speaker 4: rating simply, I'm not sure that's his given name. Just

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01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:43,960
Speaker 4: give them rain tires. Then, Chef Moore, reflecting commentary that

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01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 4: NASCAR fans have had about this move. They were complaining

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Speaker 4: about the fact that it was not rescheduled to primetime,

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01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:54,360
Speaker 4: Chef More commenting, most NASCAR fans are either drunk or

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01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:58,559
Speaker 4: in bed during primetime. I always ask off Slash take

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01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:01,360
Speaker 4: a vacation during daytail so I'm able to see it.

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01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:07,439
Speaker 4: Quit whining. There's DVR. And finally, Wayne weighing in, posting

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01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 4: and I quote, I have a doctor's appointment at three pm,

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01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:17,040
Speaker 4: sixty five miles away. Four pm sucks? Why not prime time, unquote,

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01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:21,280
Speaker 4: would it be something of NASCAR moved the race into primetime,

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01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:25,040
Speaker 4: specifically citing Wayne's doctor's appointment.

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Speaker 1: There's the reason now that would be fan friends, the

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01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:29,040
Speaker 1: best doctor's note ever.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of fan friendly. At NBA All Stars Saturday night,

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Speaker 4: Mack McClung from the G League won the Slam Dunk

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01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:37,880
Speaker 4: Contest for a second straight year. Damian Lillard of the

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01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:40,920
Speaker 4: Milwaukee Bucks won the three point shootout for a second

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Speaker 4: straight season. Finally, in golf, after three rounds of the

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Speaker 4: Genesis Invitational, Patrick Cantley as a two shot lead at

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Speaker 4: fourteen under par. Overall, I'm gonna go read more comments

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Speaker 4: on social media from NASCAR fans.

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Speaker 1: Back to you, guys, appreciate you, Ilo. I gotta say

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01:52:56,840 --> 01:53:00,400
Speaker 1: two things. Number One, Mack McClung from the GM League

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01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:04,720
Speaker 1: as your winner doesn't hit the ear right, just just doesn't. Uh.

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01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:06,679
Speaker 1: And the other, you know, while it may not help

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01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:08,800
Speaker 1: the guys at Daytona, you can go to tire rack

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01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:11,720
Speaker 1: dot com and get all Weather tires to help in

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01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:14,200
Speaker 1: your drives if you're facing treacherous roads as well.

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01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 2: I gotta say, if you're looking forward to the Daytona,

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Speaker 2: I got canceled I'll be bummed too.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's always a big deal, right.

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01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:21,280
Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: We had our guy Todd Ferman out of Vegas right

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01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:26,599
Speaker 1: the Bet the Board podcast on on Friday and talking

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Speaker 1: about you know, navigating and obviously weather being a big factor,

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01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:33,920
Speaker 1: but also trying to bet the Daytona five hundred. You're

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01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:36,200
Speaker 1: You're like, all right, which of these five guys gonna

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01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 1: be able to avoid quote the big one and avoid

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01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:43,519
Speaker 1: the crashes at the super Speedway. Yeah, that's a tough

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01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:44,120
Speaker 1: way to have to.

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Speaker 2: Gam to Todd. Todd makes the money Nascar. You can

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01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:49,479
Speaker 2: make money, can make money doing it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a fun listen. I used to

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01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 1: do fantasy NASCAR columns back of the day for Fox

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01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:58,320
Speaker 1: Sports dot com, going back into track histories and and

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Speaker 1: reading up all these blogs and their official news sites

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01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:04,360
Speaker 1: or whatever. It's a different world. I was not a

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Speaker 1: car guy growing up, so that was that was an education, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you interesting.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah. I've been to a couple of races, but

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Speaker 2: not not not Daytona.

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Speaker 1: My favorite was I went up to Sonoma for the

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Speaker 1: road course. That's a trip, right, Folks that complain about

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01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, just left left left, go see the road course.

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Speaker 1: It's a whole other world.

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Speaker 2: It is kind of interesting, how just like they just

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Speaker 2: decided to throw that in after the guy has just

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01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:33,920
Speaker 2: turned one direction for so many years, and it's like, no, no, no, actually,

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Speaker 2: I want you to do drive like like a regular human.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So all of a sudden you had to bring

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Speaker 1: in like the four or five specialists. We had a

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Speaker 1: very big affinity for a guy named Boris said back

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01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:46,280
Speaker 1: in the day, go look up, Boris said, but he

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Speaker 1: was the road course specialist, and I actually signed something

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01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:53,120
Speaker 1: just because he was such a legend around the hallways.

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Speaker 1: It's like, all right, it's that week of the year

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01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 1: when we talk about Boris said, I love it. Yeah,

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01:54:58,120 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 1: that's what we do. Find our angles where we can

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01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:03,680
Speaker 1: right at Jeff Schwartz on Twitter, where you find him,

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01:55:04,040 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 1: find me over at Swollen Dome. Coming up, we'll wrap

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01:55:06,760 --> 01:55:10,480
Speaker 1: up our big day here on Fox Sports Sunday. Welcome

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01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:14,040
Speaker 1: back in Fox Sports Radios, Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Carmon,

2293
01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:16,800
Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz with you here. You know, shortly after the show,

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01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:18,800
Speaker 1: the podcast is gonna go up, And if you missed

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01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:20,680
Speaker 1: any of today's show, be sure to check out the

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Speaker 1: podcast wherever you get your podcast Just search Fox Sports Radio,

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01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:28,320
Speaker 1: follow rate review the podcast. That's the important part. Obviously,

2298
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Speaker 1: we want you to listen what we want your feedback

2299
01:55:30,200 --> 01:55:33,360
Speaker 1: as well. Search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts.

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01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:35,520
Speaker 1: You'll see the show posted right after we get off

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01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:38,760
Speaker 1: the air and give away to Steve Hartman and Martin Weiss.

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01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:42,120
Speaker 1: Will be in in about ten minutes time at Jeff

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01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:44,520
Speaker 1: Schwartz where you find Jeff on Twitter find me over

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01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:47,040
Speaker 1: at Swollen Dome. Yet one of the big off season

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01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:50,360
Speaker 1: stories goes back to the Super Bowl, but it's the brother,

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01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:54,360
Speaker 1: you know, the luchador mask of Jason Kelsey making the rounds.

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01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:58,600
Speaker 1: He did a podcast with Shaquille O'Neil this week. Jeff,

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01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring this quote out. You're a guy

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01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:03,280
Speaker 1: a couple of years removed from playing your brother in

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Speaker 1: the league, and you know Shack had some advice for

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01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:08,040
Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey.

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Speaker 7: My advice to you is, if you are going to retire, yes,

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Speaker 7: accept it. Enjoy your family.

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Speaker 2: Brother. Thank you.

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Speaker 7: I made a lot of mistakes to where I lost

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01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:18,280
Speaker 7: my family and I don't have anybody that's not the

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01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:20,920
Speaker 7: case for you, So enjoy your beautiful wife, enjoy your

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01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:24,200
Speaker 7: beautiful kids, and never dwell on what we had. What

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01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:26,040
Speaker 7: we had is what we got. You got the ring.

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Speaker 7: People know who you are. Enjoy it because again I

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01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:31,360
Speaker 7: was an idiot and I've talked about it in a

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01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:32,760
Speaker 7: long time, lost my whole family.

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Speaker 2: It's been one hundred thousand square for the house by myself.

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Speaker 1: One hundred thousand square foot house. It's a lot of

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01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:43,080
Speaker 1: space to build your own indoor amusement park, as it were.

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Speaker 1: But for Kelsey, I remember his dad had a great quote,

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01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:48,560
Speaker 1: he goes until he starts losing weight. I'm not believing it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look this time of the year, what happens for a

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01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:59,200
Speaker 2: lot of older players is they their body feels terrible,

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Speaker 2: you know, the long season. And I would imagine Kelsey

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01:57:04,120 --> 01:57:06,720
Speaker 2: other players of his age to themselves, you know what

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01:57:07,360 --> 01:57:10,040
Speaker 2: this is it, I'm done, right, I've had my career.

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01:57:11,080 --> 01:57:15,120
Speaker 2: I'm done. And then you know about March first, body

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01:57:15,160 --> 01:57:17,640
Speaker 2: starts feeling a little bit better. You get that itch,

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01:57:17,720 --> 01:57:22,600
Speaker 2: get back in the gym. By April, the weather changes,

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01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:25,720
Speaker 2: it feels like spring. You know, there's a little the

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01:57:25,720 --> 01:57:28,040
Speaker 2: sense of like, oh football starting up soon, and you

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01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:30,280
Speaker 2: get that itch back. Your body feels much better and

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Speaker 2: you go back to work, and so unless to to

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01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:39,760
Speaker 2: to kind of shocks point, like when you're ready, do

2341
01:57:39,880 --> 01:57:43,000
Speaker 2: it right, like do it. But if you're not, then

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01:57:43,040 --> 01:57:45,560
Speaker 2: then then wait right you're like, I think that's like

2343
01:57:45,680 --> 01:57:47,360
Speaker 2: just you can wait it out a little bit. But

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01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:50,520
Speaker 2: if you're going to do it, do it. Do it,

2345
01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:54,880
Speaker 2: do it, be done, done, be done, and be done,

2346
01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:56,680
Speaker 2: and and don't come back. Don't think about it. And

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01:57:56,680 --> 01:57:59,000
Speaker 2: that's why I think some players like Kelsey wait because

2348
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:03,040
Speaker 2: announcing retirement almost like Tom Brady, did you know? And

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01:58:03,040 --> 01:58:06,400
Speaker 2: then a month later it's like, no, actually, never mind, wait,

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01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:10,720
Speaker 2: there's no rush the curiosities obviously I would like to know,

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01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:13,960
Speaker 2: most likely by for agency, you know they have a

2352
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:16,240
Speaker 2: center on the roster, but more for the draft purposes,

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01:58:16,240 --> 01:58:20,040
Speaker 2: I would say at this point. But there's no rush

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01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:24,160
Speaker 2: to announce it. And players do change their minds depend

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01:58:24,160 --> 01:58:25,320
Speaker 2: on how their body feels.

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01:58:25,680 --> 01:58:28,600
Speaker 1: I got to think to some degree with Kelsey, a

2357
01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:31,320
Speaker 1: lot of it's the psychological of what happened the second

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01:58:31,360 --> 01:58:35,120
Speaker 1: half of the season as much as where he's at physically.

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01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:41,400
Speaker 2: Maybe I would imagine the new coordinators and Kellen Moore

2360
01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:46,760
Speaker 2: obviously probably excites him. To play a little bit more. Right. Sure,

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01:58:48,120 --> 01:58:53,480
Speaker 2: I'm curious about that.

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01:58:51,280 --> 01:58:54,200
Speaker 1: Final seven weeks of how that went.

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01:58:55,000 --> 01:58:59,960
Speaker 2: And that's why I think actually Kellen Moore might revitalize him,

2364
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:03,880
Speaker 2: where if it was the same staff coming back, there

2365
01:59:04,000 --> 01:59:06,400
Speaker 2: might not be that same sense of urge to want

2366
01:59:06,400 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 2: to play with them. Sure that actually might help him,

2367
01:59:09,880 --> 01:59:12,000
Speaker 2: might help him more. I gotta say he may have

2368
01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:17,040
Speaker 2: enjoyed that Super Bowl he had. Yeah, no one in

2369
01:59:17,080 --> 01:59:20,840
Speaker 2: the Chiefs did. No Taro Swift did not. Jason Kelsey man,

2370
01:59:20,840 --> 01:59:21,600
Speaker 2: he had the best time.

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01:59:22,760 --> 01:59:26,520
Speaker 1: I applaud him. Get all in there, like your season's done.

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01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:29,600
Speaker 1: Go celebrate your brother, Go celebrate yourself. At the end

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01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:32,080
Speaker 1: of the year. He is returning that mask to the kid, though,

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01:59:32,120 --> 01:59:36,120
Speaker 1: I guess I thought that was great. Yeah, although I'd say, I,

2375
01:59:36,160 --> 01:59:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, you handed it to me. I'm done. It's

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01:59:38,200 --> 01:59:41,680
Speaker 1: now my lucky mask. But you know, we could probably

2377
01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:44,440
Speaker 1: furnish him with a cool luchador mask. We'll create a

2378
01:59:44,440 --> 01:59:46,480
Speaker 1: logo for the show and send it his way.

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01:59:46,760 --> 01:59:48,680
Speaker 2: That's fair. It was such a good story, man.

2380
01:59:48,920 --> 01:59:52,080
Speaker 1: Good stuff, What a fun fun run with the NFL.

2381
01:59:52,320 --> 01:59:54,480
Speaker 1: Good luck in your betting pursuits. You know, are beach

2382
01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:56,880
Speaker 1: soccer games now? Tied it too, so go enjoy the

2383
01:59:56,920 --> 01:59:57,440
Speaker 1: final minute.

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01:59:57,720 --> 01:59:58,680
Speaker 2: I was worried.

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01:59:59,320 --> 02:00:02,680
Speaker 1: It's Jeff, Mike. You got Steve and Martin coming up

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02:00:02,680 --> 02:00:03,400
Speaker 1: next on Fox.

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Speaker 2: Yeah,