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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Happy Thursday. Welcome to the Thursday edition of

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Speaker 1: Fair Territory. I'm Ken Rosenthal here with my friend Alana Rizzo.

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Speaker 2: A lot.

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Speaker 1: We've got a ton to get to, as always, a

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Speaker 1: potpourri of baseball things. But I want to start off,

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Speaker 1: and I know you want to talk about this too.

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Speaker 1: The best story in baseball right now from an individual perspective,

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Speaker 1: not team, and that's the AL MVP race. It is

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Speaker 1: fascinating and I will say it off the top and

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Speaker 1: I'll say it again throughout the show. I do not

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Speaker 1: believe there is a wrong choice.

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Speaker 3: It is not a clear cut answer, Ken, but it

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Speaker 3: is a conversation that we continue to have for good reason.

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Speaker 3: Cal Raley Aaron Judge both monumental seasons. But which one

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Speaker 3: is the MVP in the AL.

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Speaker 1: That's the question, and that's something that the voters will decide.

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Speaker 1: Jason Stark wrote a piece this week about Raleigh and

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Speaker 1: just what he means to the Mariners and quoting a

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Speaker 1: lot of people involved with the Mariners about what he means.

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Speaker 1: And the key question here for me when we look

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Speaker 1: at this race is how much do you value the

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Speaker 1: difference in ops? And it's one hundred and eighty four points. Today,

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Speaker 1: Judge is one hundred and eighty four points higher than

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Speaker 1: Raleigh versus what Raleigh offers and contributes on the defensive side,

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Speaker 1: much of which cannot be measured. And that's the difficulty

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Speaker 1: when a catcher is in this race. If you read

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Speaker 1: Jason's stories, one of the story one of the things

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Speaker 1: that stood out to me, jumped out at me, was

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Speaker 1: the idea that Raleigh has to deal not just with

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Speaker 1: an zero for four if that's what happens on a

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Speaker 1: particular night. Offensively, he's catching one hundred and fifty pitches

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Speaker 1: a night, right, So if the Mariners lose, for example,

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Speaker 1: and let's say three or four pitches he wishes he

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Speaker 1: could have back, well, then you're having to deal with

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Speaker 1: that side of it emotionally as well as the offensive

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Speaker 1: side of it emotionally, as well as just dealing with pictures,

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Speaker 1: comforting pictures, consoling pictures, advising pictures, working through game plans,

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Speaker 1: all of the different things that a catcher does. The

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Speaker 1: way a catcher handles the staff, it's not something we

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Speaker 1: can measure. You can say, yes, well, the era is

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Speaker 1: this with this catcher, but there's much more to it

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Speaker 1: than that. There's a psychological element. So all of these

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Speaker 1: things make Cal Raley a fascinating MVP candidate more so

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Speaker 1: than most position players, any other position player, a catcher

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Speaker 1: is different. Now, the other thing here that jumps out

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Speaker 1: at me is the fact that Raley is having a

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Speaker 1: season that kind of breaks the scales for a catcher.

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Speaker 1: It's a historic season for a catcher, fifty six home runs,

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Speaker 1: which also is a record for a switch hitter. It

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Speaker 1: beat Mickey Mantle's record for a switch hitter. So these elements,

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Speaker 1: these records setting, parts of this equation play into it.

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Speaker 1: And if you go back to twenty twenty two, Aaron

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Speaker 1: Judge sixty two home runs, brilliant season. The reason he

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Speaker 1: was MVP over hey O Tani in the American League

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Speaker 1: was largely that he did something historic. Now, the problem

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Speaker 1: with making this case for Raleigh is that Judge also

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Speaker 1: is doing something historic, and his season is quite comparable

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Speaker 1: to his seasons in twenty twenty two and twenty four.

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Speaker 1: We can show that to you strictly in terms of ops.

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Speaker 1: It's not the same number of home runs, and it's

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Speaker 1: a little bit different because he hasn't been in the

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Speaker 1: field quite as much. Raley is also DHD at times.

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Speaker 1: But here's Judge, look at the ops's they're all comparable,

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Speaker 1: and his OPS plus, which is about a one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent above the league average in each case, that's all

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Speaker 1: amazing as well. So we have two great candidates here

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Speaker 1: and Alana. It's going to be a heck of a

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Speaker 3: Kenny, it's funny because I'm looking at our chat here

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Speaker 3: in videos two oh seven brings up a good point.

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Speaker 3: I am okay with saying Call is the MVP this season.

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Speaker 3: He has earned it, and that is no slide on Judge,

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Speaker 3: to your point, you can't make a wrong decision. But

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Speaker 3: let me ask you, this is there such a thing,

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Speaker 3: Ken Rosenthal as judge fatigue. Are we tired of how

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Speaker 3: good this guy is on a yearly basis?

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Speaker 1: I hope not, And we should never get tired of

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Speaker 1: a SuperStar's performance. It's what we live for, it's what

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Speaker 1: we watch the games for. My goodness, Michael Jordan won

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Speaker 1: all those MVPs. We were okay with that, and I

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Speaker 1: it also applies to Shoheo Tani. People might think, let's

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Speaker 1: just have somebody else win this award. These guys have

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Speaker 1: the other guy. Raleigh might benefit a little bit from that.

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Speaker 1: He shouldn't. This should be decided strictly on the merits.

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Speaker 1: And if you wonder about, well, is there a New

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Speaker 1: York bias in the voting? Now, you can make the

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Speaker 1: in the country that it gets more attention than Raleigh. Okay,

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Speaker 1: But the way the voting is done each of the

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Speaker 1: BBWAA awards, it's two voters in each city, so there's

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Speaker 1: no New York bias. New York has the same weight

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Speaker 1: in this day and age, is that even a thing?

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Speaker 1: And I don't believe it is because we know we

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Speaker 1: see so much more than we used to. I know,

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Speaker 1: Cal Raley plays in Seattle on the West coast, and

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Speaker 1: people in the East Coast don't always see his games,

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Speaker 1: but the statistical information is so much deeper. We can

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Speaker 1: certainly watch highlights and you can certainly go back and

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Speaker 1: watch games. You can see this guy any number of ways.

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Speaker 1: And the voting members of the BBWA, the people who

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Speaker 1: be a New York bias type thing. I don't have

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Speaker 1: for another one. But it's going to be again, really

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Speaker 1: interesting because what Raley is doing. I was not really

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Speaker 1: Then I started thinking, Man, it's hard to deny this.

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Speaker 1: This is historic for that position, and that is the

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Speaker 1: most valuable position arguably on the field. Now, if Kyle

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Speaker 1: Raley gets to sixty, which he could do, he's a

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Speaker 1: fifty six, that could change the equation. If the Mariners

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Speaker 1: or that could affect voter perceptions and the same. But

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Speaker 1: right now, top wildcard, not going to win the division

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Speaker 1: most likely. But if Judge has a big finish to

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Speaker 1: his season, sure that could make a difference too.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, Ken Rosenthal. I know you're

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Speaker 3: not voting on this particular category. This year, you do

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Speaker 3: have a vote in a different category. But is there

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Speaker 3: pressure this season on the BBWAA because it's not cut

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Speaker 3: can understand that it's one wildcard ninety three ways and

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Speaker 3: Red Sox didn't make the playoffs. Zito didn't have a

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Speaker 3: historic year, but Pedro Martinez the Cy Young Ward of

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Speaker 3: course in ninety seven, ninety nine to two thousand, arguably

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Speaker 3: had a better statistical year, yet he still lost. Is

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Speaker 3: there pressure on the writers to get this right, especially

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Speaker 3: in a season in which cal Rawly is having a

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Speaker 3: historic season as a catcher.

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Speaker 1: Well, it wouldn't be the first time we got one

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Speaker 1: that there is a wrong choice. As I said at

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Speaker 1: the top, here in that situation you just described alon

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Speaker 1: going back to two thousand and two, and I know

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Speaker 1: it's a long time ago, but the relevance here is

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Speaker 1: Pedro had already won the Sy Young three times Zito

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Speaker 1: was not a new face exactly, but a fresh face

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Speaker 1: in this balloting. Now, Zeno did pitch thirty more innings

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Speaker 1: that year. He had twenty three wins. I think it

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Speaker 1: Young race. So I don't know that we blew that one.

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Speaker 1: But that issue of voter fatigue, We've aout it and

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Speaker 1: I've written about it. It's a real thing. And I

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Speaker 1: just would hate to see anyone pick Raleigh because he's

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Speaker 1: tired of picking Judge or she's tired of picking Judge.

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Speaker 1: That's not a reason you have to decide this thing

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Speaker 1: on the merits and the other part of this. With Judge,

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Speaker 1: let's look at where he is in the three triple

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Speaker 1: slash categories, because he's amazing in leading all of them

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Speaker 1: in the major leagues batting average, on base percentage, slugging percentage.

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Speaker 1: Here he is. He's first in all of them. He's

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Speaker 1: we cannot ignore the historic significance of what he is accomplishing.

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Speaker 1: And while it's not maybe as gaudy as Raleigh and

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Speaker 1: as dramatic as Raleigh. It's still an incredible campaign. It's

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Speaker 1: still Aaron Judge at his apex, and if not for

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Speaker 1: cal Raley, this would be around just as last season.

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Speaker 1: If not for Aaron Judge, Bobby Witt might have won.

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Speaker 1: It's always that way in these kinds of races when

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Speaker 1: they're close. So there are two worthy contenders here, and

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Speaker 3: It's a fascinating conversation. Ken, what if these two were

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Speaker 3: on the same team. I think our heads would just

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Speaker 3: blow off of our next if cal Ralely and Aaron

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Speaker 3: AL West when it comes to the Houston Astros, Ken

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Speaker 3: and the Seattle Manners, Mariners and Astros, it's getting good.

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Speaker 3: I'm not certain what's happening as far as that AO

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Speaker 3: the Mariners the Astros. It's a toss up, right now,

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Speaker 3: what's your take on this whole thing.

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Speaker 1: The Astros are coming off a series that frankly was

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Speaker 1: it was a s in which they faced Texas's three

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Speaker 1: so that was really impressive to do that. Without Alvarez,

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Speaker 1: not come back from that ankle injury. So the Astros

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Speaker 1: to me are still the team to beat. They continue

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Speaker 1: to impress with just their utter resilience. It's just impressive

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Speaker 1: Now The Mariners have one more game in their series

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Speaker 1: they will either be tied again for the AL West

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Speaker 1: As of right now, that ten game winning streak ended yesterday.

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Speaker 1: We're going to see this weekend a tremendous series between

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Speaker 1: these two teams. Hunter Brown and Valdez will pitch for

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Speaker 3: We'll start actually, Ken with the game that you have

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Speaker 1: It's Max Fried versus Kid Povich tonight too lanky left handers.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 3: But Foul Territory asks you this, Ken, what would you

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Speaker 1: The biggest thing I would like to see happen in

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Speaker 1: I'm sure teams will ask. But the A's, at least

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Speaker 3: I'm glad to hear that. I hope they are building something.

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Speaker 3: Okay, much more to come here on Fair Territory with

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Speaker 1: I was tempted to go with Justin Verlander, who has

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Speaker 4: They are, no doubt about it. I enjoy the Guardians.

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Speaker 3: is because he's doing something now that he's not like

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Speaker 3: he actually got through the third time, the order through

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Speaker 3: the third time, and he was actually allowed to stay

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Speaker 4: I got it.

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Speaker 3: So I give it to Blake Snell for having that

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Speaker 3: I also give credit to Dave Roberts for allowing him

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Speaker 3: emotion that both displayed when Blake Snell was able to

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Speaker 3: So Blake Snell, Dave Roberts, you are my Dudes of

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Speaker 4: Time. Now for Dork of the Week, I'm going.

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Speaker 1: To give it to a team and not a player.

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Speaker 1: The team is the New York Mets, and the New

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Speaker 1: York Mets, while they still look like they're going to

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Speaker 1: get the final National League wildcard, they created a race

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Speaker 1: when there is none. As I wrote the other day,

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Speaker 1: this is the National League Wildcard Race, or the race

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Speaker 1: for the third Wildcard, brought to you by the New

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Speaker 1: York Mets forty five and twenty four on June twelfth.

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Speaker 1: We all know the numbers best in the majors at

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Speaker 1: that time, and since then they have been well under

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Speaker 1: five hundred. They've allowed the Reds and the Giants and

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Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks to hang around. And do I expect any

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Speaker 1: five hundred or one game above.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that the Mets are seventy eight and

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Speaker 1: seventy four with a three hundred and forty million dollar payroll.

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Speaker 1: Nahks of the week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they created this mess themselves. They have nobody to

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Speaker 3: blame but themselves. Ken Rosenthal, my dork of the week

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Speaker 3: is actually the Brewers, and the reason being is because

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Speaker 3: of the whole Bob Yucker letter after the Brewers clinched

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Speaker 3: the celebration. I believe the intent was beautiful. I believe

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Speaker 3: the intent was good. I believe the execution of the

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Speaker 3: letter was a little peculiar. It seemed like it was

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Speaker 3: a letter supposedly from the late great Bob Yucker to

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Speaker 3: the Milwaukee Brewers that he wrote obviously before his passing

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Speaker 3: to congratulate the team because he knew that they were

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Speaker 3: going to get into the postseason.

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Speaker 4: But it was a little bit.

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Speaker 3: More of commentary from perhaps Pat Murphy himself the Brewers

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Speaker 3: social media team kind of let it get out there

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Speaker 3: and led us to believe that it was actually from

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Speaker 3: mister Yucker. But I don't believe it actually was written

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Speaker 3: by Bob Yucker himself. So the whole thing was a

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Speaker 4: Again.

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Speaker 3: Idea, phenomenal, execution, a little bit questionable, and obviously he

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Speaker 3: means so much to that organization, so it was just

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Speaker 3: a little bit, a little bit hokey.

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Speaker 1: You know what, a lot of I understand what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: I liked the idea, but in this day and age,

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Speaker 1: and we know this too at the Athletic, it kind

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Speaker 1: of have to make everything very clear so it's not strude.

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Speaker 1: If the Brewers had said this is an imaginary letter

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Speaker 1: from Bob Yucker and this is what we're going to

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Speaker 1: do to celebrate and reading that, which was kind of

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Speaker 1: in his voice, they would have probably saved themselves a

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Speaker 1: lot of trouble. I was not confused by this, understood it,

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Speaker 1: but at the same time I knew why people did

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Speaker 1: what's this. So it was a good idea, and it

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Speaker 1: just seemed to me the Brewers needed to be a

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Speaker 1: little clearer on what exactly it was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it, because again we all ran

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Speaker 3: with it, ourselves included. We are just as much at

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Speaker 3: fault as the other media outlets. But again, congratulations to

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Speaker 3: Pat Murphy, Mark Antonasio. The Brewers clinching the NL Central

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Speaker 3: is no small feat. We are proud of you. It's

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Speaker 3: just a little bit odd, all right. Well that's going

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Speaker 3: to do it here for Fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal.

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Speaker 4: Don't forget. Ken has a brand new episode on Monday.

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Speaker 3: Watch him tonight on Fox The New York Yankees at

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Speaker 3: the Baltimore Orioles. Coming up next, it is Foul Territory.

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Speaker 3: Myself a JA, here's instant Eric Kratz. We're going to

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Speaker 3: BEA's Pants and Foul Territory one pm Eastern.

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Speaker 4: We'll see you then. Take care, Ken, have a good weekend,

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