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Speaker 1: Joining us this morning is Emmy Award winning journalist and

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Speaker 1: best selling author. He's also a longtime family member of

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Speaker 1: the Steve Hobby Morning Show. Recently, he sat with President

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Speaker 1: Biden for a great one on one interview before Biden

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Speaker 1: withdrew from this year's presidential race and endorse Vice President

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris as a Democratic candidate for presidents. Let's get

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Speaker 1: more insight on what's going on with this year's election.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome a family member, O Boyd one and only,

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Speaker 1: mister Ed Gordon.

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Speaker 2: It good morning, y'all, Good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 3: Is it a good morning?

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Speaker 2: Ed?

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Speaker 3: Is it a good one?

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Speaker 2: You gotta be?

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Speaker 4: We woke up.

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Speaker 2: But we about to fight.

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Speaker 3: All right, man, Let's get down to it. Brother.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everything that's going on, everything that you've seen.

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Speaker 1: What position do you think we're really in right now?

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Speaker 1: As a Democratic?

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Speaker 3: Cark?

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Speaker 2: Well, it really is a fight coming up. There's no

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Speaker 2: question about it, you know. I interviewed the President Biden

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Speaker 2: last Tuesday. He received a warm reception. It was at

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Speaker 2: the NAACP convention. He received a warm reception there. He

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Speaker 2: had received a warm reception in Detroit prior to that.

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Speaker 2: Here's the interesting part. I think on Tuesday, he fully

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Speaker 2: believed that he was going to stay in this race

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Speaker 2: and was going to fight this out. So between Tuesday

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Speaker 2: of last week and yesterday, that's when the decisions were made.

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Speaker 2: On Friday, there was a lot of buzz. I was

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Speaker 2: But again, as a Friday, I think he believed it.

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Speaker 2: But when he got COVID, it allowed him to really

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Speaker 2: sit with himself. He wasn't out there. The people started

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Speaker 2: talking to him, and I think they convinced him that

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Speaker 2: to win. Now, let's take it to where we sit today.

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Speaker 2: It's not a foregone conclusion and that Kamala Harris is

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Speaker 2: going to be the nominee, right, she still has to

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Speaker 2: get the delegates. It's not a plug and play. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot that has to happen between now and I

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Speaker 2: think it's one hundred and nine days we're at or

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Speaker 2: somewhere in there. So look, y'all, if we are going

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Speaker 2: to move this nation forward and make sure that we

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Speaker 2: do not see another four years of Donald Trump, we're

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Speaker 2: going to have to see historic mobilization of the black vote.

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Speaker 2: I think the black vote is going to determine this election.

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Speaker 2: Black women have already, as of yesterday, started mobilizing. Sororities

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Speaker 2: have already started to raise millions of dollars. As of yesterday,

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Speaker 2: within twenty four hours, forty to fifty million dollars already

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Speaker 2: extraordinary effort, y'all. It's a big fight. It's not going

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Speaker 2: to be easy. It's not a four done conclusion. But

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Speaker 2: I'm going to assume that she is going to be.

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Speaker 4: Denominated and ed.

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Speaker 5: That's one of the reasons. Well, you know, we were

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Speaker 5: at least I was. I was very sad when the

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Speaker 5: President made that announcement that he was dropping out of

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Speaker 5: the race. But what was you know, after you think

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Speaker 5: about it, what was great about it? He, unlike the

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Speaker 5: other party, put party, put people over party, and he

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Speaker 5: said he did what was best for the country and

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Speaker 5: for the party, for the Democratic Party, and which means

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Speaker 5: his thought process was we got to beat Donald Trump

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Speaker 5: no matter what. And if I can't beat him, I'm

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Speaker 5: getting out of the race. And I loved you know,

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Speaker 5: when you look at it from that perspective, it makes

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Speaker 2: It's a hard day for him yesterday. He worked his

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Speaker 2: entire life to become the president of the United States.

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Speaker 2: For him to walk away must be heart wrenching for him.

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Speaker 2: And I'm going to tell you what else. I know

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Speaker 2: that he's going to sit back and wonder why some

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Speaker 2: as they did, And many of them were concerned about

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Speaker 2: their own livelihood. They thought, if in fact he loses,

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Speaker 2: he's going to drag the race down and the down ballot,

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Speaker 2: as we call it down. I'm gonna tell you guys,

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Speaker 2: historically he will be looked back, looked upon. I should say,

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Speaker 2: as you're suggesting there, Shirley, that he did something for

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Speaker 2: down the line right now. Again, we have a fight

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Speaker 2: because if Donald Trump wins and I normally don't say this.

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Speaker 2: You know, politics is politics, and you may not like

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Speaker 2: through four years of policy you may not agree with.

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Speaker 2: But this thing is completely different. I know people have

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Speaker 2: heard about Project twenty twenty five. It's been talked about

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Speaker 2: just don't say Oh yeah, Project twenty twenty five. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's bad. Find out what it's really about. It's a

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Speaker 2: I'm not asking you to do that. Find some articles,

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Speaker 2: see what's in there. Look, if they could put y'all

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Speaker 4: We'd all be locked up.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, it's real. It's the truth. They've already

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Speaker 2: told you what they're going to do.

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Speaker 3: What what what?

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Speaker 1: What are some of the things that stand out to

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Speaker 1: you ed in this Project twenty twenty five that we

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Speaker 2: Well, let's let's let's look at an easy one. Right,

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Speaker 2: you've been hearing about this whole dismantling of THEE and I,

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Speaker 2: this sense of not being able to teach black history

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Speaker 2: in schools. Right, we all have heard about that. That's easy.

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Speaker 2: They want to eliminate the Department of Education as importance.

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Speaker 2: If you eliminate the Department of Education, there's nobody to

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Speaker 2: has been done for decades now, which means that the

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Speaker 2: states will be free to run rampant and really start

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Speaker 2: to teach anything that they want. They've already told you

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Speaker 2: that's not what we want to hear. They are putting

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Speaker 2: things in place. They're eliminating D and I programs. They've

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Speaker 2: started with States Rights down in Texas as a for instance.

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Speaker 2: The dismantling of D and I and higher education is extraordinary. Hey, Ed,

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Speaker 2: can we.

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Speaker 5: Just stop right here and take a break and come back.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, we'll do that.

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Speaker 5: We'll be back with more of Ed Gordon on the

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Speaker 5: Steve Harvey Morning Show right after this. You're listening Steve

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Speaker 3: Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: We are still here with our special guests, mister Ed Gordon,

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Speaker 1: and we are right in the middle of talking about

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Speaker 1: changing of the guards with now Miss Kamala is the

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Speaker 1: you were talking about Project twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: And you know, just very quickly, it's just an effort

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Speaker 2: games that we've seen as a people. You know, I

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Speaker 2: about it as an opportunity for Trump and his cronies

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Speaker 2: to turn back many of the games that we've seen,

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Speaker 2: and it will really cripple African Americans, brown folk women,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. It's it's real. And for people who say

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Speaker 4: You about to find out, right.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: The big question on the table now is, of course

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Speaker 1: we want we want Kamela to be to be definitely

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Speaker 1: the person that's chosen. Who would you suggest what strengthen

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's sixty four thousand dollars question, ain't it. You know,

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Speaker 2: It's going to put this over the top. Again, not

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Speaker 2: to give a political lesson, but it's really about the

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Speaker 2: So some states are already taken care of. Democrats are

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Speaker 2: the bank. It's Michigan, it's Pennsylvania, it's Georgia, it's pop Arizona.

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Speaker 4: You wonder about her.

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Speaker 2: A lot of African Americans are talking about Wes Moore

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Speaker 4: Well enough, well enough known yet.

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Speaker 2: But look for him in twenty twenty eight, you know,

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Speaker 1: So let's do. Let's do this that we're gonna put

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Speaker 1: a pen in it. We're gonna come back and pick

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Speaker 1: right after you're listening.

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Speaker 4: Morning shows.

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Speaker 1: We are back. We are still here with our special guests.

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Speaker 1: I want and only Ed Gordon, Emmy Award winning Best

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Speaker 1: Sending Author, our friend, and he has giving us plenty

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Speaker 1: insight on everything.

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Speaker 3: Everything everybody's talking about right now.

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Speaker 1: The by Biden stepping down, Kamala has actually been endorsed

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Speaker 1: by President President Biden.

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Speaker 3: And and here we are.

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Speaker 1: So my last question was you know who would be

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Speaker 1: the who would be the vice president that she would

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Speaker 1: choose if she gets the if she gets the nod,

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Speaker 1: And my my phone is blowing up, the TV's blowing

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Speaker 1: up all over the country. This is all we're hearing.

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Speaker 1: I guess the biggest thing, man, do we have enough

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Speaker 1: time to do it?

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Speaker 4: Ed?

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Speaker 3: Can we really pull it off?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I certainly hope. So it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: a stretch if we're being honest. But at the end

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Speaker 2: You know, Democrats go I have to do what they do.

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Speaker 2: They're going to have to do this. I was with

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Speaker 2: Stacey Abrams the other day and she was saying that,

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Speaker 2: didn't have enough time to put her name on the ballot.

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Speaker 4: There are all kinds of things that could happen.

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Speaker 2: But what we have to understand is, particularly in those

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Speaker 2: purple states, it's going to be about voter turnout. Democrats

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Speaker 2: we need to hold old fish fries and get the bands,

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Speaker 2: the bus is ready and get people to the polls,

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Speaker 2: and you know, we have to vote like we never have.

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Speaker 2: And it's became cliche. You know, this election is the

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Speaker 2: most important in your lifetime. We've been saying that for

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Speaker 2: a while. Some people buying, some people don't. This time,

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Speaker 2: no joke. This is real, real, real, And you know

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Speaker 2: I don't normally like to ring along. I'm pretty calm

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Speaker 2: and cool down the line.

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Speaker 4: The house is on fire, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So that there's a group that I'm that I'm

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Speaker 1: really hoping we can we can actually get them out.

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Speaker 1: How do we get our young adults, the college kids?

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Speaker 1: How do we get these kids for this to be

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Speaker 1: come out and vote, because they got numbers that we need.

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Speaker 2: To sit and talk to them and tell them why

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Speaker 2: we complain about them too often. All them young kids,

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Speaker 2: they don't do blah blah blah blah blah. Oh the millennials,

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Speaker 2: you know, y'all, like we wasn't like that when we

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Speaker 2: were younger.

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Speaker 3: We were we were just like we were probably worse,

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Speaker 3: that's the worse.

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Speaker 4: Because we didn't have social media.

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Speaker 2: They didn't come with some different DNA. They're young period.

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Speaker 2: You know, social media has made it harder on them.

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Speaker 2: They face some problems. You know we didn't, but every

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Speaker 2: new generation faces new problems. It's really educating them. You know.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of them that knew nothing about

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Speaker 4: Vote and listen to them very quickly.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but I understand why they are disillusioned by politics.

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Speaker 2: You know, politicians and I'm including Democrats in this, haven't

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Speaker 2: Michelle Obama ain't gonna be the vice president, you know,

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Speaker 2: So let's let's let's let's stay in the real world

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Speaker 2: and get in the real world and get this done.

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Speaker 2: So let's talk to your young people and get them out.

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Speaker 3: Definitely.

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Speaker 1: And I was about to say a lot of these

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Speaker 1: young kids, like my son when he was born, Barack

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Speaker 1: Obama with President you know what I mean, you don't

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Speaker 1: know nothing else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, you know what else they've never known

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Speaker 2: if they're thirty and under, and particularly if they're twenty

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Speaker 2: five and under, they've only known the dysfunctional world. Think

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Speaker 2: about all, they've lived through pandemic wars Trump, So to

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Speaker 2: have a dysfunctional president once again is part of the

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Speaker 2: course for them. We haven't been teaching them. Some of

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Speaker 2: this ain't ain't right, y'all. You know life, life shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be this way.

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Speaker 3: That's right, right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Well, Hey, we want to say thank you man for

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Speaker 1: timing in this morning.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Brother, always a family member, always welcome, and we always

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Speaker 1: always want to hear your insight on what's going on. Man,

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Speaker 1: So we greatly appreciate you stopping in.

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Speaker 2: I love y'all, Man, appreciate it. Let's get out.

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Speaker 4: Get the vote, will that's right, get the voting.

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Speaker 2: Early voting too. You could do that in many states

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Speaker 2: early votes.

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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Speaker 1: Us is fish fries, barbecues. Whatever we got to do.

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Speaker 4: All right, ed, we thank you.

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