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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is my trusted colleague west Hodkuwitz.

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Speaker 1: We're coming to you here from our studios at lambeau

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Speaker 1: Field West. The Packers will be headed out to San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: as we know, for the NFC Championship game this coming Sunday.

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Speaker 1: It'll be a five forty pm Central Time kickoff, and

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Speaker 1: obviously it's a rematch. It's a rematch of the week

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Speaker 1: twelve Sunday Night Football game, a game that was flex

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Speaker 1: to Sunday Night Football for the implications. At that time,

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Speaker 1: the Niners were nine and one, the Packers were eight

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Speaker 1: and two. Many people thought, including Aaron Rodgers, who said,

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Speaker 1: you know, well, it looks like we're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: beat the forty Niners at their place. At some point,

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Speaker 1: he said that the week leading up to that, many

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Speaker 1: people thought it would determine home field advantage potentially in

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Speaker 1: a playoff game. It certainly has. San Francisco will be

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Speaker 1: hosting it. Matt Lafleur talked on Monday about the film

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Speaker 1: and what do you do with that thirty seven to

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Speaker 1: eight game, which obviously was the Packers low point of

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Speaker 1: the season. It was their worst game of the season.

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Speaker 1: Do you use it? Do you throw it in the garbage?

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Speaker 1: Do you just try? You know, how do you handle it?

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Speaker 1: And his approach, at least from the head coaches perspective,

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Speaker 1: and I think from the coaching perspective in general, as

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Speaker 1: they build the game plan for this rematch, is to

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Speaker 1: go through everything. You go over all of it. You

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Speaker 1: you have to swallow it all, try to digest it

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Speaker 1: all again, as as difficult as that might be to do. Now,

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Speaker 1: how much he ends up sharing that with the players,

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Speaker 1: how much he wants the players to be looking at

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Speaker 1: that film again, and all that we'll see and we

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Speaker 1: may not necessarily get any details in that regard, but

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Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur is definitely not taking that film and just

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Speaker 1: throwing it in the trash can. It's something that he's

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Speaker 1: going to use. He feels he, the coaches, the players,

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Speaker 1: everybody needs to learn from what happened and obviously use

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Speaker 1: it to put together a better performance. And it's it's

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Speaker 1: interesting because I will sit here and tell you these

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Speaker 1: are the two best teams in the NFC. I think

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Speaker 1: the season has beared that out. These are not, you know,

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Speaker 1: the one random team that kind of skirted its way

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Speaker 1: into the playoffs and then here they are, you know,

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Speaker 1: making a round to an NFC championship. Both these teams

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Speaker 1: have earned their wins, and they've earned the right to

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Speaker 1: get that first round by and now the chance to

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Speaker 1: compete for the opportunity to go to Miami and play

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Speaker 1: for Super Bowl. But more than anything, what I took

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Speaker 1: away from this week was Matt Lafleur and Kyle Shannon

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Speaker 1: both stepped to the podium on Monday, and in their

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Speaker 1: own way, I thought conveyed really important messages from the

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Speaker 1: floor's perspective. As you wrote about unpackers dot com, as

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Speaker 1: you just talked a little bit about now, it's looking

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Speaker 1: at everything they've done schedule wise, preparation wise, and making

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Speaker 1: sure that the coaching staff is doing everything it needs

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Speaker 1: to do to be prepared for this rematch in making

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Speaker 1: by proxy, getting their locker room ready and being able

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Speaker 1: to keep that twenty nine point loss kind of far

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Speaker 1: from memory. And just hearing some of the guys talking

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Speaker 1: you can just sense that that message already has been

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Speaker 1: sort of conveyed to these players. Yeah, I think that

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Speaker 1: and hearing from coach Fleur, they're already kind of finding

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Speaker 1: the right perspective in terms of in terms of where

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Speaker 1: where to put this game. You know, Alan Lazard was asked,

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Speaker 1: you know, well, thirty seven to eight, do you feel

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Speaker 1: does feel like in some ways that you're that you're

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Speaker 1: is forward, it's not it's not looking back anymore. I

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Speaker 1: not back, and back to the virginal point I was making. Two.

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Speaker 1: This is what I love about the way that La

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Speaker 1: Fleura and Shanahanna mess sagging because they're both saying the

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Speaker 1: same thing as teams. From green Bay's perspective, you lost

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Speaker 1: by twenty nine points. You want to flush it. You

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Speaker 1: want to move on and understand that. Okay, our defense

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Speaker 1: we know it'll be different. We know that game got

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Speaker 1: don't think they've lost a game since then, So I

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Speaker 1: think this game really holds zero relevance to what's going

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Speaker 1: continue to beat down the doors on every single opponent

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan's doing the same thing, and he's not going

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Speaker 1: regard to playoff rematches in NFL history where in the

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Speaker 1: mind too, this isn't you getting beat up by your

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what the Packers did. They are playing much

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Speaker 1: better football offensively. They've improved on third downs considerably after

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Speaker 1: We'll find out on Sunday whether they close the gap

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Speaker 1: The national narrative seems to have been all season that, well,

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Speaker 1: They don't care. They will they will handle adversity the

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Speaker 1: and Insider inbox this morning. If you want to beat

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Speaker 1: So fortunately everything cooler heads prevailed. Additional footage came in

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Speaker 1: if if they change the call after that. But he says, well,

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Speaker 1: the call, and then everybody cheers again. The Packers go

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Speaker 1: into victory formation and uh and we're moving on with

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Speaker 1: don't know if I've covered a normal football game this year.

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Speaker 1: That was number seventeen now of the rate of our

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Speaker 1: of our season for meaningful games. Yeah, I still don't

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Speaker 1: know if I've covered one that's like, okay, start to finish,

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Speaker 1: that's what it was. Yeah, all right, Well with that,

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Speaker 1: we will call it a wrap on today's edition of

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