1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Hey, guys and girls, we've got something different 4 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: for you today. We have launched a whole bunch of 5 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: new stuff this week on Wired Hunt. It is a 6 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: very big week on Wired to Hunt, and one of 7 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: those things is this brand new podcast you're about to hear. 8 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: This is the Wired to Hunt Foundation's podcast with a 9 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: new host, Tony Peterson. You've heard him on the show before. 10 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: And what I want to do here in a second 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: is toss you over to a little intro conversation between 12 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: Tony and I explaining who he is, what this new 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: podcast is going to be about, and what you can 14 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: look forward to in the future. I'm really excited about this. 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: You're going to enjoy this. Tune in for this intro discussion, 16 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna jump right into the first episode 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: of the new show. You're gonna learn a lot, you're 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: gonna become a better deer hunter because of this, and 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: you're gonna be having a damn good time too. So 20 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: thank you. You know, by the way, new theme music 21 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: coming at you now to both for this podcast. And 22 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: the regular Wired Hunt show. So get ready for a 23 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: little dance party. Two. All right, thanks for tuning in. 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: All right, welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought 25 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: to you by First Light. We have got a different 26 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: kind of show for you today, and you have a 27 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: different kind of show every week from here on out 28 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: when you listen to this podcast. Because I'm here with 29 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: Tony Peterson, who has been a long time contributor to Mediator, 30 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: a frequent guest on the Wired Hunt podcast, and now 31 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: officially a Wired to Hunt team member. Tony is here 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: with me on the show today to talk to you 33 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: about a brand new mini series we're launching here that 34 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: Tony is going to be hosting. So I'm I'm really 35 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: excited about this. We've got some cool stuff in store. 36 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: And uh, Tony, are you equally as as amped as 37 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: I am? Or is this just a one sided love 38 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: affair right now? That I'm just pretty stoked and you're 39 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: you're sitting in the corner like, I don't know, man, 40 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I I'm stoked to buddy. I think 41 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a really fun project to get 42 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: out there, and it's it's been really interesting to work 43 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: on so far. So I want to give folks just 44 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of background to you before we get 45 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: into the details of what this podcast is going to 46 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: be all about, because most long time listeners know your story. 47 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: But at the same time, there's a lot of people 48 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: have come on more recently and and since the early days. 49 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: You just kind of jumped in and been like, hey, 50 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: Tony is a public land expert, and then you talk, Uh, 51 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: we haven't really gotten into the Tony Peterson story. So 52 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: now that you're gonna be the host of this show, 53 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: people really need to know you man. Your skeletons have 54 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: got to come out of the closet. We've got to 55 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,839 Speaker 1: put it out there to the world. Can you can 56 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: you give me like the cliff notes on how you 57 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: got here, Tony Man. I feel and I'm not being 58 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: you and I have talked about this many times. I'm 59 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: not being totally humble here. I feel like I've I 60 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: got very lucky. And I just grew up loving to write, 61 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: loving to read, and always had this had this little 62 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: dream in the back of my mind of becoming an 63 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: outdoor writer, even though I didn't think it was actually 64 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: a viable career choice. And I just had a couple 65 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: of people take a flyer on me over the years, 66 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: a couple of editors and publishers, and I got into 67 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: the industry, uh in my mid twenties, and it really 68 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: it was an eye opener for me because I was 69 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: I was an associate editor for a big bow hunting magazine, 70 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: and the readers kept reaching out and saying, you know, 71 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: I love the articles, I love blah blah blah, but 72 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: I want to hear more relatable stuff. You know. When 73 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: I was sitting there, like, freshly married, no kids, tons 74 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: of free time, and I'm looking at this and I'm like, well, 75 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: so to why, like as a consumer of you know, 76 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: hunting media and somebody who had always just loved white 77 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: tales and bow hunting white tales, I was like, I 78 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: want to see more public land stuff, and I want 79 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: to see more do it yourself stuff. And I ended 80 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: up doing that job a couple of years and then 81 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: going out freelance, and I just thought, I'm gonna just 82 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: try to give the audience what they want, and so 83 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: I started focusing on public land I don't know, twelve 84 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: thirteen years ago now, and it really just lit a 85 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: fire in me. It made me realize how much. I 86 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: love that part of white tails, and so that's kind 87 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: of where that's kind of where I came from. But 88 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: it's always just I've always been rooted in a love 89 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: of deer, Like it's something that has kept me awake 90 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: my entire life, ever since I was a little boy 91 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: and my dad was hunting and you tell me about it, 92 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: I just couldn't get enough of it. And then when 93 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: I actually was old enough to hunt, it was just 94 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: consuming for me and it still is. And it's just 95 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: it's different now than it was then, but it's something 96 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: I just love so much. Yeah, you know, it's it's 97 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: funny you were doing the public claim before the public 98 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: thing was cool. You're you're really one of the O. G. S. 99 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: Tony um as the kids would say. And um, it's 100 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: it's always interesting to hear your perspective on stuff because 101 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: you've got more public land deer hunting experience than almost 102 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: anybody out there, at least anyone who's talking about this 103 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: stuff publicly. You really have a tremendous amount of experience. Um, 104 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: But you're not limited just in that experience. So one 105 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: thing I really appreciate about you, and that I've always 106 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: found particularly helpful is that you can talk the talk 107 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: and walk the walk on the public land thing, but 108 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: you've also done private land stuff. You've also done the 109 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: management stuff. You've kind of put your your toe into 110 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: all those waters and experienced it. And then you're not 111 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: just in one place all the time. Either You've done 112 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: You've hunted in Florida, you've hunted in North Dakota, you've 113 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: hunted in Oklahoma, You've hunted it in Wisconsin. Like you've 114 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: crossed the country too, So you've got this wide swath 115 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: of experience. You've tested your ideas in many different settings, 116 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: and I think that gives you a lot of credibility 117 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: and authority on this stuff, which is why you know, 118 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: over the years, I've always looked at you as like 119 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: one of the absolute top people I could ever talk 120 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: to you because you just had this um, I don't know, 121 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: just a really helpful set of experiences you could point 122 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: back on that always helped me learn. And so, you know, 123 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: as we started thinking about what's next for Wired to hunt, 124 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: where are the new opportunities, Where are the holes that 125 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: we need to fill? Where are the opportunities where we 126 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: can build what we've done and make it even better. Um, 127 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: you know, you were that person who I saw as 128 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: as being a really good fit to do that, Tony. 129 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: And and I think with this podcast that we're launching today, 130 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: this new podcast miniseries, I guess, um, I think you 131 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: are uniquely fitted to to do this particular thing as well. 132 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: So that's that's a long wind up to me basically 133 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: saying I want to I want to lay out a 134 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: real simple explanation of what we're gonna do, and then 135 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: I want you to give me like the long winded 136 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: explanation of of why and how. But here's here's the 137 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: basic gist. This new mini series is going to be. 138 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna be a second episode every week, 139 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: so they're still gonna be the regular Wired Hump podcast 140 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: episodes that I'll be hosting, but each week you're also 141 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: going to get this extra episode from Tony. And these 142 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: are gonna be short episodes featuring just Tony talking about 143 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: just one specific foundational thing. So that's like the that's 144 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: the first paragraph of the article. Now, Tony, give me 145 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: the how, what, why, when details on exactly where this 146 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: is going. What you have in mind, this is your 147 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: this is gonna be your baby. Uh what do we 148 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: have in store every week from here on out from 149 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: your podcast? Well, man, this is this. This came from 150 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: many many conversations you and I had about, uh, the 151 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: questions we were getting asked by our audience, and there's 152 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: there's just certain lanes those questions fall into, and they 153 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: might involve scouting, or they might involve gear, they might 154 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: involve you know, hunting tactics, and so this podcast will 155 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: really be a breakdown of these concepts of everything that 156 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: is involved in the white tailed world. And it's not 157 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: just a public land thing, it's not just a private 158 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: land management thing. It's it's a lot of these topics 159 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: that transcend and so, you know, you and I were 160 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: chatting and saying, hey, how do we kick this off 161 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: the right way? What's what's like one of the most 162 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: transcendental topics out there? And it's scouting. You know, like 163 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: everybody who's a really, really good deer hunter has some 164 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: love of scouting and engages in it year round to 165 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: some extent. Well, then we look at that and we 166 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: start breaking that down into what's what's the most beneficial 167 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: for the largest amount of deer hunters, And you start 168 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: getting these topics that range from East scouting to you know, 169 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: long range glassing and all these all these sort of 170 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: umbrella categories. But then you start breaking them down and going, Okay, 171 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: how does this really benefit you know, a hunter down 172 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: in Louisiana versus a hunter in the north woods of Michigan. 173 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,599 Speaker 1: And that's been the whole goal of this thing. And 174 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: these episodes that come out are going to be a 175 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: real breakdown of these these topics. It's gonna be just 176 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: me nerd ing out on so many of these different 177 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: things that are so important to deer hunters down to 178 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: a real granular level to just try to make them 179 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: as accessible as possible to the most deer hunters out 180 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: there and help people just learn on the on the 181 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: process of white tails. You know, I think one of 182 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: the one of the great things about podcasts has been 183 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: that it is allowed folks within the hunting community to 184 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: have these these deep conversations with somebody. Right, we'll brand 185 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: some expert and we talk for a couple hours, and 186 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: we go into all these different topics and we get 187 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: deep into these ideas and strategies that you know, you 188 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: just can't get when you're reading an article or when 189 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: you watch a twenty two minute TV show, um, and 190 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: so that that lends itself to a lot of interesting stuff. 191 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: But the downside is that those most important nuggets are 192 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: those most important takeaways sometimes get lost in the soup 193 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: of all the other things you talk about over the 194 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: course of two hours. So it takes a long time 195 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: to get to those most important ah ha moments. And 196 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: it's also you know, sometimes lost in the noise. And 197 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: what I'm hoping and what I'm pretty confident that we're 198 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: gonna be able to do with this is get straight 199 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: to the aha moments, get straight to those key takeaways. 200 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: You know, instead of listening for me ramble for two 201 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: hours of somebody, you can listen to Tony for fifteen minutes, 202 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: give you, like a straight shot right to the Maybe 203 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: this is a bad metaphor, it's gonna give you, it's 204 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna give you a just a I don't know, 205 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm lacking for metaphors completely, not Tony, but it's gonna 206 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: give you exactly what you want in the shortest amount 207 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: of time, very clearly and concisely explaining a topic, an 208 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: important topic, without all the beating around the bush, so 209 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: that if you've got fifteen minutes on the treadmill, or 210 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: if you've got twenty minutes to get to work, or 211 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: if you've got twelve minutes before the kids wake up 212 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: from their nap, you can look and find Hey, you 213 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: know what, I really need to get a better understanding 214 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: of the scouting in this kind of way. Bam, here 215 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: it is. Tony is going to give you the low 216 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: down in in about as detailed and helpful of ways 217 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: you could find anywhere on the internet, but you're gonna 218 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: get it through your headphones or your speakers in a 219 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: way that's easy for you to to consume. Um, I 220 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, that's that's the side of this 221 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: thing that's got me excited. I think it's just gonna 222 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: be so. I don't know. These days, time is more 223 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: important than anything to a lot of us. Right. We're 224 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: always busy, We're always running all over the place, and 225 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: I'm always trying to think, like what's the best bang 226 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: for my buck when it comes to how I spend 227 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: my time. So if I'm to choose between you know, 228 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: watching this show or watching this five minute video or 229 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: whatever it might be, I'm always thinking about, Okay, what 230 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: do I want to get out of this and how 231 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: much time do I have to give to it? And 232 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: I don't think there's gonna be any better use of 233 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: your deer hunting learning time than one of these straight 234 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: shots of Tony Peterson. Man, I hope you're right by 235 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: what else? What else? What else do we have to 236 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: look forward to? Here? Like? What do you want folks 237 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: to know about? Um? You said you're gonna nerd out 238 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: every week? What does that mean? So? My my strategy 239 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: with content like this is I want to I want 240 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: to give people ideas, right, Like people often reach out 241 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: to us and they want to know, how do I 242 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: hunt this spot? Or why don't I kill you know, 243 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: big Bucks more often? Or I travel somewhere and I fail? Why? 244 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: But hunting is like so individual, it's so subjective, and 245 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: it's hard to sit here and give advice to and 246 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: you you know this better than anyone, and give advice 247 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: to the whole range of of white tail hunters who 248 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: are going to check in. But the idea is to 249 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: take these concepts, these foundations that are that that are 250 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: found no matter where you hunt, no matter how you hunt, 251 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: and really give people like a deep dive into them 252 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: and give them some ideas how how to how to 253 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: do them better, or how to apply them to their 254 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: white tail scouting or their white tail hunting, or maybe 255 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: they're they're you know, post shot recovery, and just give 256 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: people something to think about and consider to level up 257 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: their white tail game. I think in addition to that, 258 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: the world that can to my mind, as you're saying 259 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: that is actionable, Like these are really actionable. It's it's 260 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: not a bunch of fluffy Oh you know, I went 261 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 1: out and did this thing and it was kind of interesting. No, 262 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, here is one specific thing. Here's a 263 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: few really important things I've learned along the way, and 264 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: here's something you can do tomorrow. Here's something you can 265 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: do two months from now that is going to help you, 266 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: and this is exactly how to do it. Um, you 267 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: don't get that in the audio world a whole lot. 268 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: This is where you will find that. UM. I gotta 269 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: tell you what, I'm putting a lot of pressure on 270 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: your Tony. I'm really I'm really really shining the spotlight 271 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: on what I'm hoping and thinking this is gonna be. 272 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: So you better, you better, Dan well produced, Tony. You 273 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: know I'm trying, but you keep cutting out all my 274 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: good jokes in my in my script. That's the truth 275 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: to that. Uh yeah, man, I mean everything said it's true. 276 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: I can tell you that I've always find that the 277 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: best podcast podcast episodes of Wired Hunt are the ones 278 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: where I personally am like, genuinely thrilled to learn from 279 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: this person or learn about this topic. And now I 280 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: know that every single week there's gonna be something like 281 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: that coming from you, because I can honestly say, and 282 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: this is not me tooting your horn and blowing smoke 283 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: up your butt. Um, I value your experience and opinion 284 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: more than just about anyone else there in the deer 285 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: hunting world. So I selfishly am excited to learn from 286 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: you and to get refreshers on a lot of these things, 287 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: and probably some new stuff too that I haven't thought about. 288 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: I guess the only other thing I would say, Tony 289 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: is maybe you know, are there any other do you 290 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: want to tease? I guess what we have to look 291 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: forward to, any specific topics or episodes coming down? Like 292 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: what can people specifically look to be popping up in 293 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: their podcast feed over the coming weeks or months? Well, yeah, 294 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: for sure, man. You you can think about it this 295 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: way is it is. It's gonna be tied into seasonality. 296 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: So these are gonna drop every week, and you know, 297 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna be in the heart of of scouting season 298 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: right now. So there's gonna be a lot of a 299 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: lot of episodes on the different kinds of scouting, you know, 300 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: boots on the ground, trail cameras, different kinds of trail cameras, 301 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: how to use them, uh, some long range you know, 302 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: glassing stuff, and then it'll get us right into the 303 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: season and I'm really excited for that part because it's 304 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: it'll be a breakdown of different hunting styles and probably 305 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: kick off September with some some water hunting episodes and 306 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: you know that's something I get asked about all the time, 307 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: and you know, different kinds of water, rivers, ponds, cattle, tanks, 308 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: and just move right on through October and uh cover 309 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: really seasonably appropriate, seasonally appropriate topics, and I just can't 310 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: wait to get into them. Yeah. Well, I, like I said, 311 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited about it, interested to start listening. And 312 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: I guess with that being said, Tony, I think maybe 313 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: I should drop off, I should shut up, and I 314 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: should let you take it from here. So, uh, that 315 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: sound a good plan. Sounds like a great plan, buddy. 316 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: All right, here goes episode one of Foundations with Tony Peterson. 317 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide 318 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, and now your 319 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: host Tony Peterson. Hey, everybody. On this week's show, I'm 320 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 1: going to make the case for why every white tail 321 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: hunter needs to fall madly in love with scouting so 322 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: they can take their game to the next level. I 323 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: get asked every single week, probably every single day at 324 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: this point about deer hunting, and the questions always take 325 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: two paths. What can I buy to kill more deer? 326 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: Where can I go to kill more big bucks? And 327 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: I get it. Everybody wants they want that secret sauce. 328 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: They want to know, like, what's what's the call that's 329 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: going to always bring them in? Where's the public land 330 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: in a certain state that I'm gonna go and see one? 331 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: Forties left and right doesn't exist. The key to becoming 332 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: a better deer hunter and enjoying your time out there 333 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: more is just outing. It's the secret sauce out there. 334 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: And if you learn to not only just love scouting, 335 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: but to really really embrace the different methods of scouting 336 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: that are available to us. You will absolutely fill more tags, 337 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: but you'll find that there's just like a more fulfilling 338 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: experience out there as a deer hunter. And this episode 339 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: is just dedicated to begging you to learn to love scouting, 340 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: to accept the fact that if this is the first 341 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: step to becoming somebody who can really level up their 342 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: white tail game, and in fact, like the next ten episodes, 343 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: they're all devoted to scouting. That's how important I think 344 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: this is to becoming a better deer hunter. Have you 345 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: ever really thought about how some people just seem to 346 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: fill their buck takes no matter where they hunt, whether 347 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: they stay in their home state and hunt private ground 348 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: or they had out of state to hunt some distant 349 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: chunk of public dirt. Some hunters just have critter sense, 350 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: and they aren't killing deer simply by growing them on 351 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: exclusive ground, which is a strategy that dominates much of 352 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: the white tail scene these days. These hunters seem to 353 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: find success everywhere, often on ground that is open to 354 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: anyone and has a reputation for not exactly churning out 355 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: easy to kill deer, kind of like that public land 356 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: that you probably hunt so what's their secret. It could 357 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: be time. Of course, there is a tangible benefit to 358 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: having days upon days to devote to all things dear. 359 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: Yet many of these absolute killers are working full time 360 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: jobs and they're out there raising young families, and they're 361 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: just not exactly flushed with early retirement level free time. 362 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: They might, you could guess, have a lot of disposable 363 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: income to spend on the best gear, which certainly helps. 364 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: Or they might have a vast network of people willing 365 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: to share secret spots with them, so no matter where 366 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: they hunt, they've got insider information to operate with. Or 367 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: they might just possess, don't know, like some level of 368 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: cosmic luck that just shows up during their tree stand 369 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: sets and ushers big bucks into range with annoying frequency. 370 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: You and I know these are all possibilities, of course, 371 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: but they don't take into account the reality of what 372 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: it takes to be a big buck serial killer on 373 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: pressured ground. To accomplish this, you've simply got to develop, 374 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: like all of the most successful do it yourself is, 375 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: have ap pere true love of scouting. And now it's 376 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: often said that a buck's home range will consist of 377 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: no more than a section of land, and that within 378 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: that square mile, a buck will settle down as a youngster, 379 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: and he'll build a nice little life for himself. He'll 380 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: have all the dose he needs, plenty of predator free 381 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: places to take a little mid day snooze, and enough 382 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: groceries to see him through the old age, provided he 383 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: can survive that long. It's not so simple, though. GPS 384 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: studies in states like South Carolina and Pennsylvania have shown 385 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: how tricky pinning down a home range really is. Not 386 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: to mention how variable they are in size. Some bucks 387 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: average three fifty acre home ranges, which is pretty small, 388 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: while others might call more than nine acres home, which 389 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: is pretty big. Whatever specific bucks number is, his home 390 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: range isn't wrapped in a nine ft tall fence to 391 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: keep him right where he's supposed to be. At least 392 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: that's the case with the deer you and I are hunting. 393 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: Excursions are made and home ranges can shift over time 394 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: due to a variety of factors. And even if there 395 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: was like a hardwired genetic trigger in bucks that forced 396 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: them to keep home ranges of exactly a certain number, 397 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: there's there's really a problem with how we think about it, 398 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: you know, as humans, we have a tendency to try 399 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: to simplify complex topics for a personal understanding, just to 400 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: make things a lot easier for ourselves. And so in 401 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: this case we envision a buck living in an actual 402 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: square mile. But it hear's home range isn't all about 403 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: living dead center in the middle of a specific amount 404 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: of land. It's all about what that land has to 405 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: offer the deer. Habitat or quality habitat is really the 406 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: name of the game here. This is easiest to understand 407 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: when you think about this in terms of a western 408 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: white tail like picture the stereotypical five inture out there 409 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: in the Milk River in Montana, in one of those 410 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: places that for like ten years, when you turned on 411 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: the outdoor channel or you started watching a hunting video, 412 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: you saw these bucks crossing that river coming out into 413 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: an alf alfa field. Picture that buck that was so 414 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: popular back then. He might have lived in a river 415 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: bottom that is framed on both sides by cottonwoodwood lots 416 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: and you know, just thicker than the surrounding area patches 417 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: of brush and shrubs, or to put it another way, 418 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: just generally the best habitat in his region. Even if 419 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: he might have chased a dough out through the prairie 420 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: at some point during the rout, or had to cross 421 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: a mostly featureless pasture to get to food right now. 422 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: You can find this scenario in the Big Sky State, 423 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: of course, but also from the western Dakotas on down 424 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: through Oklahoma and farther west into other states more known 425 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: for elk and mildeer opportunities. What you won't find, generally 426 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: is a solid block of sixty acres of sweet deer cover, 427 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: even though we're all looking for that. Right. You'll find 428 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: thin strips of cover along the water, and fingers of 429 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: it stretching up into the hills. You might be able 430 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: to lump in the disused corners of an irrigated alfalpha 431 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: field or some other agriculture, But no matter what, you're 432 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: just not going to find a simple square land that 433 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: is the right size and consists of everything a buck needs. 434 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: And even if you did find that unicorn out there, 435 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: you're probably not gonna get permission to hunt it anyway. 436 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: Those river bottom bucks might very well have a home 437 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: range that sixty acres or real close to that, but 438 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: it could consist of three miles a thin creeker river 439 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: bottom which might serpentine its way through three or five 440 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: different properties. These regions, with their limited cover are at 441 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: least easier to narrow down when you're on the hunt 442 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: for a good box home base. Those hunters in the 443 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: deep South, or up in the far North, or plenty 444 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: of places out east have have a totally different task. 445 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: How do you find a specific DearS home range in 446 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: thousands of acres of unbroken timber? Or a bigger ask, 447 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: how do you find the fifty or hundred acres a 448 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: core area where a specific book really spends most of 449 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: his daylight hours through the hunting season. In my life 450 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: as a die hard bow hunter, this is the biggest 451 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: challenge I've encountered out there so far, and the answer 452 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: to it, the answered a lot of these questions, just 453 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: involves scouting. This is the great intangible that you can't 454 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: buy at your local sporting goods store. It's not a 455 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: magic grunt tube that doubles as a fawn bleeding snort, 456 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: wheezing guaranteed to call in only dominant five and a 457 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: half year old bucks to boot looking range super call. 458 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 1: It's not a simple hunting strategy either. Like I don't know, 459 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: posting up on a soybean field in September, rattling on 460 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: Halloween morning, or heading into sit a sweet terrain pinch 461 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: point on November seven. Instead, it's a year long pursuit 462 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: of deer knowledge that allows you to pick up not 463 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: only on an individual bucks clues, but the evidence that 464 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: all of the deer leaving behind every single day of 465 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: their lives. And there are many many methods of scouting, 466 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: and the best hunters learned to love them all. But 467 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: just like the best hunters don't rely solely on one 468 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: hunting style. This willingness to expand their trusted bag of 469 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: tricks into which falls all types of scouting, allows them 470 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: to not only start honing in on an individual book 471 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: if they have the option, but also just develop layers 472 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,719 Speaker 1: of understanding on deer and build the confidence they need 473 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 1: to get into the kill zone when the situation presents itself. 474 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: These hunters, in their time spent ea scouting, hiking through 475 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: the woods in the off season, they're sitting on the 476 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: glass in August check several boxes on how to become 477 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: more consistently successful at filling tags. They do this by 478 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: gaining a real understanding of the ground and they find 479 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: actionable sign on that ground, which adds to the list 480 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: of clues on just how the deer use it. And lastly, 481 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: they put themselves in a position to actually watch deer 482 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: both in and odd of the season. They then mix 483 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: all this together to create a picture of usage on 484 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: any given tract of land. This allows them to take 485 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: that knowledge to a new property or to a new 486 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: state and imply what they've learned. The benefits of this 487 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: experience if you want to become a better deer hunter, 488 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: are hard to put into words. It's the secret sauce 489 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: to all d I Y big buck killers. It's in 490 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: their DNA. It's in the DNA of every single hunter 491 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: who has made a name for himself as a successful 492 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: public land hunter. It's the reason guys like Eddie, Claypool 493 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: or Andy May can show up in a new state 494 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: on ground they've never seen before and put together an 495 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: actionable and often successful hunting plan, even if they only 496 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: have a few days to work with. The knowledge levels 497 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: they've built by loving to scout allow them to apply 498 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: tried and true templates to just about any spot of 499 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: white tail calls home, and then they can cater their 500 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: strategy to sync up with regional specifics. In other words, 501 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: their love was scouting allows them to fast track the 502 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: process so that they can layer in east scouting, a 503 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: quick turn and burn boots on the ground mission, and 504 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: then pivot to a hunt in almost no time. Drawing 505 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: on their past experience and putting it to good use 506 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: in the moment is their strategy, and it works. When 507 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: I first started traveling to hunt white tails and random 508 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: states on public land, this point was just absolutely driven 509 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: home to me. From the very first mornings and evenings 510 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: I spent glassing North Dakota River bottom bucks to killing 511 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: a hundred forty eight pointer the first day I really 512 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: set out to hunt mature bucks on public land, the 513 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: whole thing just became clear. It's the work you put 514 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: in beforehand before each hunt that matters the most, and 515 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: most of that work just involves different kinds of scouting. 516 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: Now you're probably thinking, Okay, so I've got to scout 517 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: more if I want to kill more books. That's not 518 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: exactly rocket science, dude. We've been hearing that a long time, 519 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: and you're right, it's not. But that's not the case. 520 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm laying out here instead of just spending a couple 521 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: more weekends winter scouting, or maybe running a few more 522 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 1: cameras this summer like it's a job. You've actually got 523 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: to learn to foster a love of scouting. You've got 524 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: to develop a deep, unabashed, seventh grade crush on scouting. 525 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: You should be writing your name plus deer scouting and 526 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: framing it in a heart with an arrow through it 527 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: in your notebook. That's how much you should love scouting. 528 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: And you should embrace this part of the hunt because 529 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: it is, without question a part of the hunt, and 530 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: it's fun too. If you learn to look at as 531 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: an extension of the hunt, it gets even more enjoyable 532 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: when you start seeing some of it turn into the 533 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: little rewards along the way. This is the key to 534 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: long game beneficial activities like I don't know, getting in shape, 535 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: or doing the best you can to raise kids so 536 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: they don't turn out to be faeral lunatics. It takes work, 537 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: but work can be enjoyable if it's rewarding, and in 538 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: the case of loving the scout, the big payoffs might 539 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: be a dead buck each ball, or they might be 540 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: smaller things like seeing a few more deer on your 541 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: sits and feeling like you're just always in the game. 542 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: No matter where you hunt, that's a big deal. It's 543 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: not nothing. In fact, a great way to think about 544 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: it is to imagine someone posing on the beach in 545 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: Florida with a big red fish in his or her hands. 546 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: That instagram worthy moment looks like the best part of 547 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: inshore fishing, and it is a blast. But if you 548 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: can reverse engineer it, you might see that same fisherman 549 00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: minutes or hours earlier, working along eyeball in the way 550 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: aaves that are breaking in an effort to find a 551 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: rip tide or just some current seam. You might see 552 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: them spots something in the action of the swells that 553 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: trips a memory of past catches, and it says to 554 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: them this this is the place to cast. You might 555 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: see their anticipation manifest itself visibly in their body language, 556 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: just like when a good bird dog gets on the 557 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: fresh scent of a rooster. Or you could go further 558 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: back and you might see that person fishing by a 559 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: pier with a little bait catching sabiki rig earlier in 560 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: the day, filling up their bait bucket. Or maybe you'd 561 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: see them winging a cast net into the surf to 562 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: round up some pinfish or mullet. Certainly, a bait catching 563 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: mission like that isn't the same thing as fighting a 564 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: big red through the surf, but it is still more 565 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: importantly a fun step in the direction of the ultimate goal. 566 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: And don't kid yourself, it was absolutely necessary to the process. 567 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: White tail hunting is like that, and I'm not saying 568 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: to you that you have to devote three in sixty 569 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: five days in a year to scouting, but you could, 570 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: although at some point you'd probably be doing more harm 571 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: than good to your hunting, into your marriage, probably to 572 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: like your sanity. Instead, just work to gradually increase the 573 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: frequency of all types of scouting, not just the ones 574 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: you like, and try to figure out why it's more 575 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: fun than not doing something white tail related. Embracing and 576 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: enjoying East scouting in time in the woods during the 577 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: off season adds to the entire deer hunting process and 578 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: isn't just the best way to become a more effective 579 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: terminator level white tail killer. It's a way to level 580 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: up on your woodsmanship and really develop a confidence level 581 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: that allows for better decision making when you set down 582 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: the spotting scope and actually pick up your bowler rifle 583 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: It's also a way to balance out the unknowns that 584 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: make deer hunting such a challenge. You can't predict what 585 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,479 Speaker 1: the weather will be like when you take your PTO 586 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: to hunt. It's out of your hands. But you can 587 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: go into that rutcation with multiple potential stand sites, or 588 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: hunting spots that were littered with rubs last year, or 589 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: maybe just features a season long pinch point that boasts 590 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: the most well used multi generational trails on the property. 591 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: You can't predict how many other hunters will pull into 592 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: the management area parking lot an hour before first light, 593 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: but you can't stay ahead of them and the deer 594 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: by waiting out to the rubbed up island you found 595 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: back in April. Instead of griping about the pressure and 596 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: a lack of a plan, b a love of scouting 597 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: will position you to react according to these variables that 598 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: are simply out of your control and yet a part 599 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: of every single hunt. Over time, and with a little 600 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: extra effort, you might find that the key to that 601 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: late October grippingrin was that you simply couldn't wait way 602 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: back in March to go take a walk through a 603 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: random chunk of public land to see if you could 604 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: find some deer sign and maybe look at a few 605 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: interesting benches along a certain hard to reach ridgeline, and 606 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: that you know you've got to foster a true love 607 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: of scouting. You're gonna want to keep listening to Foundations. 608 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: We've only scratched the surface of white tail scouting, and 609 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: for the next several weeks, I'll be taking a serious 610 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: dive into all aspects of deer scouting, right down to 611 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: the tiniest details, starting with next week's episode that focuses 612 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: all on big picture EA scouting. And that is it 613 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: for this week, my friends, be sure to stay tuned 614 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: so you can keep developing your white tail hunting game 615 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: to a higher level. I'm Tony Peterson and this has 616 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: been the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast. Thank you so 617 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: much for listening, and we will see you here next week.