1 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: So I am launching a new show under just B. 2 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: So there's just B and there'll just be rants and 3 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: then now there is going to be just Be Unfluenced. Okay, 4 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: so the name of the show is just Be Unfluenced. 5 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: Why so about a year ago over a year ago, now, 6 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: I started just fucking around with makeup and talking about 7 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: what's garbage. And it was funny because when I first 8 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: did it, when I first said something negative about a 9 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: tom Ford product or a do Your product, I cringed it. 10 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: Or Shanta Kai product, I cringed a little bit inside, 11 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: as if like these brands were humans, and that like 12 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: I said something bad about Meg Ryan and she was 13 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: going to come to my house, you know, And I 14 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: know tom Ford is a human. And so that's one 15 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: of the challenges, by the way I think about this, 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: if you ever start a brand, one of the challenges 17 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: of having a brand with your own name is that 18 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: anything negative about that brand is your own name. So 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: anything positive is your own name, but you have no 20 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: distance from yourself and the brand. And that's why skinny 21 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: Girl was Skinny Girl and not called Bethany or something. 22 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: And I kind of have a little bit of a 23 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: Bethany brand, but not really because it's scary to be 24 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: so attached. So in the beginning, when I was saying 25 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: negative things about certain products drug store and expensive alike, 26 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: I would kind of cringe, lie as if, like as 27 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: if like tom Ford knows who I am or has 28 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: ever like done or given me anything. Like I've woren 29 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: tom for ad dresses and they've showed up in the media. 30 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: I wore tom Ford all over house so I was 31 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: but like tom Ford couldn't give a shit about me. 32 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm not at the level to be, you know, dressed 33 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 1: by him or sent a lip gloss or anything. So 34 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: you get scared to say something about dir liked yours 35 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: that said me Lady Dior bags or you know giving 36 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: me campaigns, So like why am I afraid? That's another 37 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: whole conversation why people? And I see it all the time. 38 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 1: I see housewives do this all the time. They're kissing 39 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: me asses of these brands. It couldn't give two fucks 40 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: about them, like tagging Balmain, tagging all this shit. Like, 41 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: to be perfectly honest, I sold out air Mes lip 42 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: oil and that brand does like me. They're not sending 43 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: me free air Mes Birkins. But you know I can 44 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: get myself an airmes bag if I want, and that 45 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: is like allowing someone to buy a stock, because they 46 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: do in many cases go up in value. But still 47 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: none of these brands are like giving me anything. I 48 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: don't you know, they're not paying my rent. As I 49 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: like to say, so, I it's funny that you would 50 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: be scared to say something negative about these brands because 51 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: you're just like a little nervous, just like the way 52 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: that housewives kiss brands asses, tagging them and wearing the 53 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: letters everywhere as if it's going to endear them to them, 54 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: and in fact, it probably turns them off. So when 55 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: I would cringe when I was saying this stuff, because 56 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: I was watching all these influencers on social media, primarily 57 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: on TikTok kiss the asses of these brands, and you 58 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: know they're being paid, and they're being paid in many 59 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: different types of ways. It's not just straightforward high here's 60 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: money to do this commercial to talk about it. It's 61 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: high you talked about it, we want to pay you 62 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: to talk about it more. It's this is a sponsored post. 63 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: It's can we pay you to review products? So like 64 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 1: we're paying you to on a video review products so 65 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: now you kind of are gonna just of course say 66 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: they're all amazing because you're being paid to review them. 67 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: No one's going to be paid to review a product 68 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: and say shitty things. So I found that there was 69 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: a lot of shadiness. Now I was just saying things 70 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: I like drugstore things that are amazing, and at the 71 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: level became a whole thing. It's so funny, like all 72 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: my isms became a thing. I like a Picasso, which 73 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: came from a TikTok sound okay, I like it. Okay, 74 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: I like a Picasso, or girl, don't do it, it's 75 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: not worth it, or you know, at the level, but 76 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: a lot of what people were attracted to was me 77 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: having the balls to say this is shit. So it 78 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: became something that was like a thing. Now I'm not 79 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: the first person to ever say products were ship. There's 80 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: a guy named Jeffrey Starr, Like, I don't know anything. 81 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: I've just seen him on social media and I tried 82 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: one of his lip classes, which was good. But he's 83 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: very irreverent and he'll say like, Kylie's shit and I 84 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: haven't thrown off this, thrown off this gifting list, and 85 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: like he'll fully talk about it but it's courageous, and 86 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: when you see him do it, it's courageous. So when 87 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: you see me do it, it's courageous. And of course 88 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: there have been people that said they didn't like things, 89 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: but you kind of see these influencers say they don't 90 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: like something the way that someone throws condoms in with 91 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: like bubble gum and shampoo and a bunch of other shit, 92 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: like they're just mixing it in. So you'll see these 93 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: influencers like ooh and ah and then say something sort 94 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: of shady about a product, but you could tell that 95 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: they're in bed with that brand and they want to 96 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: kind of mix it in. So I'm fully savvy to 97 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: all of this. And here's the thing. Most of these 98 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: influencers are in their tw and thirties, and there are 99 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: some that you know, cater to mature skin. And I 100 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: hate that sort of label because, yes, limb of mature 101 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: skin is different, but covering my under eyes is really 102 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: not that much different than a thirty five year old. 103 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: To be honest, when I was thirty five, I had 104 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: black circles too. So I'm just talking about the major 105 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: popular influencers. They're in their twenties and thirties and they're 106 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: not that savvy. So some of them are savvy, but 107 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: like they're young kids and they're not. They maybe makeup 108 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: savvy and like grab the bag savvy, but they're not 109 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: overall business savvy. So I'm watching, you know, a lot 110 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: of the way they're doing it, and it's not that 111 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: easy to do. It's funny because there was an influencer 112 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: called Michaela who has like fourteen fifteen million followers. She 113 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: was the first influencer I really knew about it. I 114 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: couldn't believe she had so many followers. And these people 115 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: are famous gods in this beauty community. Like my own friends. 116 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: And I call five of my own friends, they're not 117 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: going to know who MICHAELA or Meredith Ducksberry is, but 118 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: the people in that vortex that I walked into do know. 119 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: So MICHAELA is famous in the beauty community. Now. She 120 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: used to have seemingly in videos no Massachusetts accent, and 121 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: now she has a very strong like so people go 122 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: on and troll her about her accent. Paul's from Boston, 123 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: and he said it doesn't sound like a common Boston accent, 124 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: but maybe there are parts of it, And there are 125 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: parts of Massachusetts, where people have very strong accents, and 126 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: he said something interesting. He said, you could change an 127 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: accent once, meaning you can have one and then go 128 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: to not have one, but you can't then go back. 129 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: You can't flip it back. So it sounds like maybe 130 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: she grew up with one, she changed it during college, 131 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: and as she went back to it. So whatever that 132 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: means to you, I'm not I don't know enough, and 133 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: I don't know that much about her. I had her 134 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: on the podcast. She seemed a little guarded, like she 135 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: was definitely guarded, and then I later realized that she 136 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: gets trolled a lot, like for using felters and people. 137 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: You know, success breeds contempt, so a lot of people 138 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: come after her. And I had her on and you 139 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: could tell she was a little guarded because I said, 140 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: do you feel that you share too much? Like she's 141 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: weeping and crying and talking about her body and her weight, 142 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: and people are like, we love you. And I thought 143 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: to myself that worm could turn, you know, like, these 144 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: aren't your people. Aren't your family just because you connect 145 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: with an audience that makes sense, but they're not your 146 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 1: actual family. Like people on social media, if you filter 147 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: your face and you're talking about makeup and they find 148 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: out it's a lie, they will fucking hate you. They'll 149 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: get you know. They go TikTok more than any place 150 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. It's a real roller coaster of emotions, 151 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: Like it's like we love you, we hate you, we 152 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: love you. So Michaela did an ad for Lorielle was 153 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: a partner for this telescopic miscarra and I very early 154 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: on after she did the video, just heard one person 155 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: say something, so I reviewed the Mscara had no idea 156 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: this was going to become a fucking scandal, and from 157 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: those who don't know, none of my friends would know. 158 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: You fucking crazy person. Why are you talking about a 159 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: scaregate if you're on TikTok, which is not the same 160 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: as being on Instagram, Like TikTok is its own planet. 161 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: It's a world, and then you go into different like 162 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: neighborhoods in that planet, societies, and beauty is a society. 163 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: So a year ago I walked into this society, this 164 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: fucking world that like, yes, people have seen me on Instagram. 165 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: Reshare some of these videos to people know I'm over there, 166 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: and they think the video content is great and they're 167 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: enjoying it. And I'm talking about makeup. That's that's Instagram, 168 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: which is like it's like a planet you understand, Like 169 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: you may not like it whatever, but it's a planet 170 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: you understand. TikTok is like being inside of a cult, 171 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: Like it's like a different world. It's just like it's insane. 172 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: People could like organize buttons and have ten million followers 173 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: for their button collection, like it's fucking whack. So anyway, 174 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: I walked into this beauty space and Griffin Johnson, an 175 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: influencer who I know, who's young and like a good 176 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: looking kid who has over ten million followers on TikTok. 177 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: I happened to meet him through another business, like over 178 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: a year ago, and when I told him about what 179 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: I was doing, and I was just fucking around. I 180 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: was like, wait, why are there seven million views on 181 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: a video of mine? Why did this get fourteen million views? 182 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: He was like, you walked into a very interesting and 183 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: respected space and beauty is crazy, Like the people are 184 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: very loyal and I have found that beauty like the 185 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: businesses are very have integrity and are loyal and they're 186 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: very reliable and they're not shady and like apparel I've 187 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: walked into sometimes and like it's not the same, foods 188 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: not the same, Like it's a world foods, a world 189 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: on TikTok, clothing and apparel is a world. Fashions a world, 190 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: rich people on boxing, aramez bags, that's a world that 191 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: they're a world. Beauty's a world. And I walked into 192 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: that world and I became a part of that world. 193 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: So in that world, I saw him a scare video. 194 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: I did a video on it, and I saw it 195 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: started picking up. My video went viral. But like people 196 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: were talking about Mscara and that that McKay la did 197 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: a post for Loreale and all of a sudden you 198 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: saw that her eyelashes looked great after she put them 199 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: a scare on. So these fucking people, these surgeons that 200 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: are crazy, like these like they call it citizen journalists, right, 201 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: they went in and they'll go in so quick and 202 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: say like that she added whispies. So people are always 203 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: on her for like filtering, which seems to be fine. 204 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: She filters and a lot of people hate it, but 205 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people accept it. And she filters for 206 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: these ads too, But I don't know why they're not 207 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: mad at that. Then she puts on a guess ardel 208 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: whispies like the end, the little eyelashes, Like, I don't 209 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: even know what the fuck whispies are. I wouldn't know 210 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: she was wearing them. I'm like, no, I didn't know anyone. 211 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: I didn't know everybody had filters on in the beauty space, 212 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: no fucking idea. So she evidently was in an ad, 213 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: a sponsored post, and apparently there was a shady way 214 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: the way she said it was paid, like it's in 215 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: the corner and there are different ways because this is 216 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: not that regulated. This is not like open up Vogue magazine, 217 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: and what does the actual ad say or on the television, 218 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: you know what's been approved. FCC like approves commercials, and 219 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: you can't just go on there and say anything. This 220 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: is the wild, wild West. So MICHAELA has the word 221 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: somewhere weird and evidently someone noticed that she had whispies on. 222 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: So she's advertising MISCAA to this very real world audience 223 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: that doesn't really know it's totally an advertisement, and she's 224 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: got fake eyelashes on. People went fucking bananas. I know 225 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: the pr for the brand. I just was like, this 226 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: is crazy, this is crazy, and I was thinking, holy shit, 227 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: and like Lorelle, we couldn't you couldn't decide if they 228 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: were gonna be happy or mad or you know, as 229 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: bad as good. The view the video got like over 230 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: fifty something million posts, and everyone's running out to buy 231 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: them as scara. I happen to have them ascara because 232 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I just happened to have it. 233 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't. I'm not running out. Maybe I 234 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: would have run out, but I happen to have it, 235 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: so I was just using them a scam. It gets 236 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: a good mascara, Like everybody's at like this. Some miscara 237 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: is gonna change your life, Like you don't need a therapist, 238 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: go to mascara, like get your fucking life's together. People 239 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: like it's a miscara. There's only like a range of 240 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: like shit and good, like not gonna be like, oh 241 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: my fucking god, I feel like my lashes put on, 242 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: like getting your fucking life together. But anyway, it was 243 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: amazing to watch this. People were running out, so they 244 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: were mad at her, but they were putting money and 245 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: mad at Loriale, but they were putting money in Loreale's pockets. 246 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: TikTok is the land of talking about hating someone and 247 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: making them more famous, Like it's unbelievable, Like I can't 248 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: believe this pink, fucking pink sauce whatever it was, it 249 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: was some pink sauce. Everyone was buying it, so it's like, 250 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: what are you guys doing. So they're running to the 251 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: drug store to put on this miscara and some people 252 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: thought it was clumpy, and some people thought it was whatever. 253 00:12:48,240 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: I thought it was a good mascaret's fucking miscaa. So 254 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: people were going nuts, and for like four days, it 255 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: was the only thing you could see on your page. 256 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna get to this another time. We're gonna 257 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: talk about Tart and their Dubai trip because that was 258 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: another time. For four days, if you were in this vortex, 259 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: this planet, beauty of talk, you were only seeing this 260 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: Tart influencer trip to Dubai. Like you think your mind's 261 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: playing tricks on you if you're not someone who's always 262 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: watching TV and you're fucking around on your phone. We 263 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: were seeing mscaragate videos for days, and those of you 264 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: who know no and the girls that get it get it, 265 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: and otherwise you could google it. It was fucking crazy, 266 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: and you know, Loreal had to be happy because it 267 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: was selling muscara hand over foot and forever. The Loreale 268 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: telescopic black Muscara, which happens to be great, was fucking 269 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: Muscara gate. Okay, so now it's a phenomenon. Trust me, 270 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: go to the drug store. Now. Things used to not 271 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: be sold out. You go to the drug store. Anything discussed, 272 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: anything I discussed sold out. I walk into Alta, I 273 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: walk into see I am the Justin Bieber of CVS. 274 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: I walk into CVS. Mom's stopping me, Oh my god, 275 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm here because of you. They have my list, you know. 276 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: I walk at the Sephora. The people that worked there 277 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: know me, like, but I'm I'm not that famous at 278 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: Sapphora because that's more elite. I am the Justin Bieber 279 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: of CDs. So so things are fucking sold out because 280 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: of things like this. TikTok is crazy and it changed 281 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: the beauty industry. It is a beauty industry revolution. I 282 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: now know brands I never even heard of that. I'm 283 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: intimately connected to Essence Milani revolution. I didn't know any 284 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: of these were I didn't know anything. I had fucking 285 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: Lob Prairie Foundation from five years ago still in my 286 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: drawer like perfume from set. Like I didn't understand the 287 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: shit expired. I still have this like two face that 288 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: looks like little puffy like cute little stuffed animal creatures 289 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: on the cover of the box because I coveted it. 290 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: Why it's okay, Bethany, you could spend four year I 291 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: was on a new eyeshadow. I just didn't know. Now 292 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: I have acres. I could fill one of those like dumpsters, 293 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: and I'm constantly getting rid of it. Okay, So Msscarrogate 294 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: led to the deinfluencing movement. So what that meant was 295 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: people now, because here's the thing, everyone's a fucking sheep. 296 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: So yes, some people were saying on YouTube, and Jeffrey 297 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: Starr has said he doesn't like things. But I've been 298 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: on Beauty Talk and I know no one was fucking 299 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: saying they didn't like anything. Jeffrey Star was. Apparently there 300 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: were some people on YouTube and I was, so yes, 301 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm bragging about being one of the first. Well Street 302 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: Journal did an article about me being one of the first. 303 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: I was definitely one of the first. Okay, Like that's 304 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: a fact, So we can argue about that another day. 305 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter but I didn't know it had a name, 306 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: but people created a name. So not every young girl 307 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: with a lot of followers because of mscaragate to seem 308 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: authentic to their audience. That's why that's the key here. 309 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: MICHAELA has fake eyelashes on in a post, So everybody 310 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: was not trusting anybody who was an influencer. So everybody 311 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: was coming for influencers not believing anything they were saying, 312 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: is this a sponsor posted? You being paid? Mascaragate changed 313 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: the way that brands will engage influencers to not only 314 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: sell their products, but what is disclosed? Can you wear eyelashes? 315 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: You can in magazines, but you have to disclose it. 316 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: It's like written on the bottom. You know, lashes may 317 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: have been enhanced, like because TikTok is the wild Wild West. 318 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: Nothing had been really disclosed. And I guarantee you will 319 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: have somebody on from a brand here. We'll have those 320 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: kind of people on here. And I guarantee you that 321 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: brands have changed the way they do business. The entertainment 322 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: industry changed something called the Bethany clause where people that 323 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: go on reality television have to give the network a 324 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: percentage and they sign the Bethany clause, So I guarantee 325 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: you that there's like a mascara gate change, meaning things 326 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: have to be disclosed. How do you write sponsored, how 327 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: do you write partnered? What's the right language? So while 328 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: Laurial did great and people bought the fucking mascara and 329 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: Michaela did great because people engage, and she got paid. 330 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: And if she had what I heard was a virality 331 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: clause somebody once mentioned like where that went viral? Bet 332 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: kicked in, then she probably made it a lot more money. 333 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: And you know, she's laughing her way to the bank, 334 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: but having to fend off haters, which there are a lot, 335 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: but it's okay. She's very viral, and I think by 336 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: now she could take it. And I texted her to say, 337 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: if you want me to help, you, want me to 338 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: manage you. Because she's a young girl. I think she's 339 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: gotten business savvy and she's beauty savvy. But you know, 340 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: you have to have had years and years of institutional 341 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: knowledge of how to deal with these kind of things. 342 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: But people weren't trusting their influencers. So everybody was coming 343 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: after everybody's saying can I trust you? And as it 344 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: sponsored and as it paid, and how do I know? 345 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,719 Speaker 1: You know they didn't trust. So that's why everybody started 346 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: doing de influencing. Three things I don't like full face 347 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: to makeup, I hate, like michaela full face to makeup, 348 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: I hate. These are brands I fucking hate. This is 349 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: stuff that was not happening for the last year that 350 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: I've been in this vortex. Now it's how happening because 351 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: everybody goes with the bandwagon on TikTok from from a 352 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: sound to a dance to a trend, to a mascara 353 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: to a hating everybody flips into the pendulum swings and 354 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: everybody goes to a trend. So de influencing is now 355 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: a trend. I hate gimmicks and like words. So I 356 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: decided who better than me, who was fucking saying I 357 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: couldn't stand certain tom Ford, Charlotte Tilbury and d or 358 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: products a year ago when it wasn't cool, when the 359 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: cool kids weren't doing it. Why shouldn't I have a 360 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: podcast called Just Be Unfluenced so I can talk to 361 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: you honestly about how crazy shit gets and what really 362 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: sucks and what is good and kind of trends in 363 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: this space. So that's why just be unfluenced is here 364 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: and it's gonna fucking blow the doors off. And we'll 365 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: have creators on, and we'll have influencers on, and we'll 366 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: have makeup artist on, and we'll have beauty industry people on. 367 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 1: And this will be very, very niche like talk, but 368 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: it will speak to many of you in the mainstream 369 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: because we're gonna be talking about makeup and it's just 370 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: a very it's a cool place, and it's a cool 371 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: conversation and it's a multi billion dollar industry. They make 372 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: so much fucking money off of you guys. And like 373 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: the tiniest little bit of eyeshadow, we will be in 374 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: this gorgeous packaging and be fifty dollars and you run 375 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: to buy it at Sephora and I've been there and 376 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: it's the fucking hunger Games at Sephora. And we will 377 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: talk about the Dollars store and CBS and Walgreens and 378 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: Alta and makeup on sale and TJ Max and department 379 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: stores and Old Lady brands and TikTok famous brands, and 380 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: we will go through all of it. This is just 381 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: be influenced