1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: Ooh, welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 2: all of you hanging out with us as we roll 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: through the Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: Encourage all of you to go subscribe to The Clay 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: and Buck Show on podcast. You can find us there. 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: You can take us with you anywhere. As we now 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: enter into May, a lot of people are going to 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: be getting out of school soon. My kids, I was 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 2: talking with them this morning as I was taking them 12 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: to school getting ready for the day. They have a 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: little bit over two weeks left in the Nashville area. 14 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: I know that's early for other parts of the country. 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: But you're gonna be going on vacation, You're gonna be 16 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: on the road. You want to take us on the 17 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: podcast with you. And Buck pointed out yesterday, the iHeartRadio 18 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: app is fantastic to download. You can stream so many 19 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: of your favorite stations with you wherever you go around 20 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: the country or around the world world for your vacation 21 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: coming up this summer, Join now by Ryan Gerdusky and 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: I say this finally, one of our favorite data nerds 23 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: out there. 24 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: Ryan. 25 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: I think the last time we had you on was 26 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: a couple of months ago, if I remember correctly, and 27 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: you were at that point, yeah, long silence. You are 28 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: at that point becoming somewhat increasingly optimistic on Trump's chances 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: to win the race. So let me start with you 30 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: right now, since we last talked to you, as we 31 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: sit here almost exactly six months out, how would you 32 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: assess this Trump versus Biden race? Are you still optimistic 33 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: on Trump's side? What has the data shown you in 34 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 2: the last two months or so? 35 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: Well? 36 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: So I write this in the National Populist newsletter on 37 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: sub sec my National Populist newsletter, and he wants to subscribe. 38 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: There's basically a dichotomy of two conflicting regions of the country, 39 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: the Sun Belt and the Ross Belt. That's really we're 40 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: almost all of our swing states preside in one of 41 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: those two regions. The sun Belt is everything below the 42 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: thirty sixth parallel, so basically Tennessee, Oklahoma, Arizona, and below. 43 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: And they include swing states or traditional swing states like Florida, 44 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 3: North Carolina, now Texas which is pretty much a swing state, 45 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 3: and Arizona and Nevada. What we've seen in the Sun 46 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 3: Belt is those states Trump has a very healthy margin 47 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 3: outside the margin error in most polls. Florida and Texas 48 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: are way beyond the margin era. They're almost in double 49 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 3: digit territory, and even in North Carolina is basically there. 50 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 3: Trump is pulling about five points even in Nevada, Arizona, 51 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 3: and Georgia. Trump's lead in Arizona is about four points, 52 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 3: in Georgia is three point seven, and Nevada is three 53 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: point five. What's more interesting, if you look at it, 54 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: is where the averages have been for so long. This 55 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 3: isn't a new thing. Trump has has led in Georgia 56 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: since October, He's led in North Carolina since last August, 57 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 3: and he's been that way with Arizona and Nevada since November. 58 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: So this has been six straight months about lots of 59 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: news stories of lots of different headlines, and lots of 60 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 3: money by the Biden administration Democratic Party being put into 61 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 3: these states that have had a little impact. Members have 62 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: moved out point in Biden's favor, but not enough to 63 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: sit there and move them out of the margin of error. 64 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: Then there's the Rust Belt. The russ Belt is places 65 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 3: mostly three big states, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. Trump has 66 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 3: been leading in the Ross Belt in all those areas, 67 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 3: but by very very small numbers, by a point a 68 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 3: point and a half to two and a half points 69 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 3: in Michigan. That is not a safe place to be now. 70 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: That is remarkably better than he was in in twenty 71 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: sixteen and twenty twenty, when state polling was very off 72 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen and somewhat off in twenty twenty. But 73 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: Trump has got much more to has a lot more 74 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: work to do in the Midwest that is older and 75 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: whiter than he does in the Sunbelt, which is younger 76 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: and more diverse, and that will be the deciding factor 77 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: in this upcoming election. 78 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: Hey, Ryan, it's buck. Where do you think that Democrats 79 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: believe their best shots at taking swing states? We all 80 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: know what those swing states are. Where do they think 81 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: they have their best shot? You believe based on the 82 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: polling and the data you can see. 83 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 3: Well, absolutely, Pennsylvania is very, very very important, Michigan, especially 84 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 3: with Robert F. Keunty Junior making the ballot in Michigan 85 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 3: and Wisconsin, those three places because they have while they 86 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 3: have a huge working class white population. There is a 87 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: very very very small Latino population, and as Latinos are 88 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: re orienting themselves, much like white voters did in the 89 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: nineteen seventies and nineteen eighties, were conservative whites were no 90 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 3: longer voting Democrats, they were voting Republican for president. We're 91 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 3: seeing a lot of that among Latinos, where conservative Latinos 92 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: who traditionally vote Democrats are voting more and more Republican. 93 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 3: They don't have He does not have that boost. It's 94 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: going to be completely among college educated whites and working 95 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: class whites. And the thing that Trump has. Trump has 96 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 3: the numbers right now working in his favor. But the 97 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 3: people who vote often and vote continuously, especially college educated whites, 98 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 3: are very, very heavily in Joe Biden's camp. And that 99 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 3: is how Joe Biden could lose the entire Sunbelt, all 100 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 3: the swing states and the Sun Belts and still win 101 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: the presidency if he manages to hold on to enough 102 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 3: working class whites and college educated whites. Pew Research in 103 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 3: their exit polls of twenty twenty, twenty seven percent of 104 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: all Biden voters were non college educated whites. That's a lot. 105 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: That is the second largest part of his coalition outside 106 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 3: of college educated whites. So these are tens of millions 107 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 3: of people that should be Republican, that would be Republican 108 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: that positive for grabs if they try to appeal to them, 109 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 3: and that would be the main priority I think of 110 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: the Trump campaign. 111 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: All right, this is a super nerd question. But correct 112 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong on the math. Here we are potentially, 113 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: if Biden were to hold on to the Midwest. Let's 114 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: say he won Wisconsin, Let's say he won Michigan, and 115 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 1: he won Pennsylvania. Based on what you're saying, rust Belt 116 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: versus Sun Belt, if Trump flipped Georgia, if he flipped Nevada, 117 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: and if he flipped Arizona, it would come down potentially 118 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: to a two sixty nine to two sixty nine tie. 119 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 4: Uh. 120 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 2: If he wins the sun Belt loses the Rust Belt, 121 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: depending on what would happen in the Omaha Nebraska congressional seat, 122 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 2: the way that they divide out things in. 123 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: Is that correct? 124 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 3: Yes, that's correct. 125 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, because because would win Trump would win if this 126 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: got tossed into the House of Representatives, tied up at 127 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: two sixty nine, and by the way, that's not a 128 00:06:55,279 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: crazy result based on polling right now, right, they if. 129 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 3: But the thing is that Republicans have to hold the 130 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 3: House because what happens is not the old Congress votes 131 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 3: for the new Congress does so if Republicans. 132 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: But it's by state. 133 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: Sorry to nerd out even more, but it's by state 134 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: delegation right, not necessarily control of the House. And I 135 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: believe Republicans would be favored to still have more states. 136 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: But I mean, this is this is how tight end 137 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: could be. 138 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: Not yes, it's it is a yes. That is one 139 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: potential depending how swing states in places like Michigan, Arizona, 140 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 3: Pennsylvania go where the majority of members could be Democrat 141 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 3: or Republican from either which state it is potential It 142 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: is possible. But yeah, that would mean like places like 143 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 3: North Carolina and Georgia with Deute Vudding Republican. But there 144 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: are a number of swing states which would draw the 145 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: majority of the delegation being Democratic Republican in critical battlegrounds 146 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 3: in Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, so we'd have to wait and 147 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: see Minnesota. 148 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: We're speaking to Ryan Gardowsky, National Populist Newsletter is his 149 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: sub stack. Go subscribe to it. Ryan. How's the money 150 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: game looking right? Now as I understand it, the RNC 151 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: has started out in a rough spot this year in 152 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: terms of cash on hand, but has been really ramping 153 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: up fundraising successfully ramping it up recently. What can you 154 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: tell us about about how that component of it is 155 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: lining up right now as we get closer to this, 156 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: I mean, Lard. 157 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 3: Trump had really done a number of good work when 158 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: it comes She's definitely not spending money like Roni McDaniel was, 159 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: which is a good thing. And she's been increasing in 160 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 3: her fundraising efforts. And the main job of the RNC 161 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: is too fundraised, the same job with the DNC. One 162 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: of the big problems for Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen 163 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 3: was the DNC was functionally bankrupt when she took it 164 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 3: all when when she became the party's nominee Obama really 165 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: didn't fundraise very well for whatsoever. But the problem that 166 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 3: the RNC is having right now, the Republicans are having 167 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 3: right now, is that the state parties, which were ones 168 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 3: very strong in a number of states, are extremely weak. 169 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: The Michigan State Party, the Arizona State Party, they are 170 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: in terrible shape a number of them. And the reliance 171 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 3: on state parties to sit there and move the needle 172 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: which was intro it was so important in twenty sixteen, 173 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 3: is not available today. I'll say on part of us. 174 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 3: In twenty sixteen, in Ohio, the state party was so 175 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: well run, but do check I think ran at that point. 176 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 3: But it was so well run that on election day 177 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: of twenty sixteen and their early get up the vote plan, 178 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 3: by noon they had stopped using any resources in Ohio 179 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 3: and shifted everything to Michigan. And Michigan obviously was won 180 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 3: by I think less than half a point, but by 181 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: the Ohio GOP saying we have this election of the bag, 182 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: we won it, let's move all of our resources to 183 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: Michigan was so important to helping flip that state and 184 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 3: mobilize low propensity voters and getting them out to vote. 185 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 3: Ohio still is a very good state party. Other states, though, 186 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 3: do not, and those resources are very very badly needed 187 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 3: when it comes to helping elect people and helping elected president, 188 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 3: so Johnald Trumps. The one thing that the RNC and 189 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: the Trump campaign have not done is they do not 190 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: have a lot of state offices or local offices as 191 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 3: of yet, and Biden has a number. That doesn't mean 192 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 3: a lot necessarily because Trump had very few in sixteen 193 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 3: and Biden had almost none in twenty. But in title 194 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 3: races that get out the vote effort does mean a lot. 195 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: Ryan In sixteen we saw Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan all 196 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: go for Trump. In twenty we saw them all go 197 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: for Biden. 198 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: Do you believe that it's likely that all three of 199 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: those states go the same direction in twenty four, either 200 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: for Biden or for Trump? 201 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: Part one, Part two? If you were analyzing this from 202 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 2: Trump's perspective, do you believe that mission Michigan may be 203 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: based on the Israel and Palestine situation, has moved more 204 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: than Pennsylvania or Wisconsin. 205 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: If Trump were gonna win one of those three, which 206 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: one or maybe ranked them in likelihood of winning, do 207 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: you think it's different than in sixteen and twenty Well, 208 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: one of. 209 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: The big problems in twenty four Republicans was the Green 210 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 3: Party was not qualified on the ballot in either Wisconsin, Arizona, 211 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 3: or Georgia. They'd all been thrown off the ballot, and 212 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 3: had the Green Party performed equally as well in any 213 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 3: of those states as they did in the neighboring state, 214 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 3: the election would have been different. Now the Green Party, 215 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 3: as I understand it is on the ballot in all 216 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 3: of those states. So a really hardcore progressive, which is 217 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 3: Jill Stein, who's campaigning on a pro Palestinian message, in 218 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 3: a pro Gaza statehood message, is on the ballot all 219 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: those places. So that may make up a big thing. 220 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 3: RFK Junior I believe is on the ballot in Georgia 221 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 3: and Michigan. I'm not so sure what Arizona as of yet. 222 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: That will make up a certain differences that those states 223 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 3: really swung in twenty sixteen was there was a proportion 224 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: of the population, specifically white college educated and a non 225 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 3: college educated who genuinely hated Hillary Clinton and couldn't And 226 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 3: I portioned the black population by the who hated Hillary 227 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: Clinton either wouldn't turn out for her, or when they did, 228 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: they voted for Gary Johnson or Jill Stein. In twenty sixteen, 229 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: that hatred did not happen in twenty twenty. They didn't 230 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: feel the same thing for Joe Biden. So although Trump 231 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 3: improved his performance among non college educated whites by a 232 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 3: point from sixty four to sixty five percent nationwide, the 233 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 3: percentage of the five or six percent that had sat 234 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 3: out or had voted for a third party came to 235 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 3: Joe Biden, and that's where the margin made the difference. 236 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: The margin was smaller because a lot of people who 237 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: sat out third party had come home to the Democratic Party. 238 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 3: Now that six seven percent still exists today, they may 239 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: set out again. They may sit there and vote for 240 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: Joe Biden, or they may vote third party. Trump should 241 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: make a real appeal to the voters because non college 242 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 3: educated voters one they have. The economy is hurting them 243 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 3: the most too. They are the most fragile from mass 244 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 3: immigration as far as their jobs go. Conversations over AI 245 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 3: replacing their jobs is power amount that no one's really 246 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 3: talking about yet. And I'll put up one other last thing. 247 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 3: There is a huge population in this country that live 248 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: in mobile home communities that are being increasingly purchased by 249 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 3: large companies that are displacing millions upon millions of people, 250 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 3: are threatening to displace millions upon millions of people. That's 251 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 3: a real conversation. And mobile home societies communities rather are 252 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: very large in swing states in this country. Their biggest 253 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 3: I think are Florida, North Carolina, Nevada, Arizona. I think 254 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 3: those are the top four. So that's a very very 255 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 3: important democratic Speaking to working class white voters right now 256 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 3: is critical in the same way that he attempted to 257 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 3: black voters in twenty twenty talking about the Platinum Plan. 258 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 3: There should be a plan for the white working class 259 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 3: Americans who feel completely unrecognized, and I think speaking to 260 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 3: them is critical at this moment when six or seven 261 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 3: percent of their vote easily swing one way or the other. 262 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: Ryan or Dusky, everybody check out National Populist newsletter on substack. Ryan, 263 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: keep your phone handy. We're gonna talk to you. This 264 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: gets closer, by the way. Do you think Trump is 265 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: still winning two months ago? You said yes, just yes 266 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: or no? Would he win if the election were today 267 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: based on your analysis? 268 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, absolutely, yes as today. 269 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: Yes, that's good to hear. We'll talk to you again soon. 270 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: Hopefully the result will stay the same. 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It's not 288 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: very interesting, but it's crazy and unjust and wrong and 289 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: harming any faith that we have in certainly the legal 290 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: system in New York State and New York City. We'll 291 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: give you the updates. Though Judge Deni's mistrial request, Stormy 292 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: Daniels got into the details of her alleged tryst with Trump, 293 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm not surprised that there was no mistrial 294 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: granted here that would be a pretty monumental moment for 295 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: Judge Marshawn. But Clay, it seemed, even in the denial 296 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: of the request, that there's been some admission that, yeah, 297 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: the Stormy Daniels just got into some salacious nonsense has 298 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: nothing to do with what the actual issue is at hand. Like, 299 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: if this is about misrepresenting a business record, why do 300 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: we need to know anything about this? Yeah, it's a 301 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: great question. 302 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: I'm reading from Caitlin Collins, who was at CNN from 303 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: her Twitter feed. She's in the courtroom after returning from launch. 304 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: Trump's attorneys asked for a mistrial. Quote a lot of 305 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: the testimony this witness, meaning Stormy Daniels, talked about today 306 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: way different than the story she was peddling in twenty sixteen. 307 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: Trump's attorney Todd Blanche says merchand in ruling on this 308 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: request for a mistrial, said something interesting. Again, this is 309 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 2: according to Kaitlyn Collins, I do think there are some 310 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: things that would have been better left unsaid. Having said that, 311 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: I don't believe we're at a point where a mistrial 312 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: is warranted. This is surprising to me because effectively he's 313 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: acknowledging that she said some things that should not have 314 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 2: been permitted permitted in this court testimony that the jury heard. 315 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 2: Some of you out there may be saying, Okay, what's 316 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: the impact of that. This is how the Harvey Weinstein 317 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 2: case got tossed. There was a determination by the Court 318 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 2: of Appeals that witnesses testified to matters that they should 319 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: not have been allowed to testify to, and as a result, 320 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: the entire case had to be tossed. 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That's twenty twenty four 339 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: aistock dot com paid for by Chacken Analytics. 340 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 2: Couple of things, a little bit of fireworks from the 341 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 2: Trump trial underway right now. Trump has also posted in 342 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: the last during the lunch break. 343 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: I believe, of course he has. Of course, yes, this 344 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: is going to be another gag order violation which is 345 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: going to dare Judge Merchand to decide what he's going 346 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: to do. This witch hunt is false, ancient history that 347 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: was fully adjudicated by the voters in the twenty sixteen 348 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: presidential election. It only has to do with election interference 349 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: and trying to help Crooked Joe Biden get elected because 350 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: he can't do it by himself. It's a vicious attack 351 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: by the Soros back da Alvin Bragg in strict coordination 352 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: with the DOJ and the White House on Biden's political 353 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: opponent me. It is illegal, unconstitutional, and strictly third world country. 354 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: All caps on that final sentence and Stormy Daniels is 355 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: soon going to be subject to cross examination, and remember Buck, 356 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: I do think we should mention this to Trump's point 357 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: on his attorneys saying that she has testified today different 358 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: than what she has said in prior stories. She previously 359 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: signed a letter that said as follows, to whom it 360 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: may concern. This was in January of twenty eighteen. 361 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 2: Over the past few weeks, I've been asked countless times 362 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 2: to comment on reports of an alleged sexual relationship I 363 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 2: had with Donald Trump many, many, many years ago. The 364 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: fact of the matter is each party to this alleged 365 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 2: affair denied its existence in two thousand and six, eleven, sixteen, seventeen, 366 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 2: and now again in twenty eighteen. I am not denying 367 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 2: this affair because I was paid quote hush money, as 368 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: has been reported in overseas. 369 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: Owned time tabloids. 370 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 2: I am denying this affair because it never happened. I 371 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 2: will have no further comment on this matter. Please feel 372 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 2: free to check me out on Instagram at the Stormy 373 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 2: Daniels Thank You. This is an official statement of Stormy 374 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 2: Daniels that was dated January thirtieth of twenty eighteen. So 375 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: she has made so many different statements about this over 376 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: the years that even if you are inclined to believe her, 377 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: you have to choose which of the many different stories 378 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 2: do you want to actually believe. And so all of 379 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 2: this is a all of this is just a cavalcade 380 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 2: of absurdity, and we'll see again. This is why I'm optimistic, 381 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 2: although it will happen after the trial, I'm optimistic that 382 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: this case is actually going to be totally tossed, even 383 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 2: by New York or appellate judges, because I think there 384 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: are major issues at play here, and even Justice merchand 385 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 2: Now is saying, hey, there were things that Stormy Daniels 386 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: has testified today too that she should not, in his opinion, 387 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: have been allowed to testify too, which is sometimes grounds 388 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,959 Speaker 2: for tossing any result. Now you talked about this earlier, 389 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: the data in terms of gambling markets. Every day a 390 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 2: little bit more money is coming in on the possibility 391 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 2: of this being a mistrial and the fact that this 392 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: might not actually even be a conviction in the only 393 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 2: case that is likely to be able to go to 394 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: the to go to the jury before we all go 395 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 2: vote as the ultimate jury in November. 396 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I mean yes, I'm like, is there, Yeah, 397 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I agree, I can't. Can't. I tell you 398 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: that anything that you're saying does not line up with 399 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: what I think we're all observing. And I think that 400 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: this trial is a sham, it's a farce. It's embarrassing. 401 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: It's embarrassing for the city of New York, it's embarrassing 402 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: for the state, and it's honestly just embarrassing as Americans 403 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: to watch this play out. It is ethically and intellectually indefensible. 404 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: This is not on both sides. This isn't a oh 405 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: but maybe kind of sort of. He did something that 406 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: we need to be having this trial for. Let's just 407 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: all understand every aspect of this has been abused. They 408 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: held it until the election year, intentionally to interfere with politics. 409 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: They stacked thirty four counts based off of the repetitions 410 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 1: of a printer with the act of the false business records. 411 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: As I've said, this is charging somebody not for marijuana possession, 412 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: but charging them for trafficking because they passed a marijuana 413 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: cigarette back and forth with one other person ten times. 414 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: Each time is an time. Each time is more weight 415 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: added on. It's outrageous, it's a total violation of prosecutorial ethics. 416 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: There's nothing here. No one even cares this whole thing. 417 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: This is like the Trump tax returns, which we never 418 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: hear about. We never talk about this anymore. It was 419 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: a fixation of these psychotic libs for years. Oh, we're 420 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: gonna see the Trump tax returns, as if like Vladimir 421 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: Putin was gonna have some note all Trump, I love you, 422 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 1: I give you billion dollars. Like, the whole thing was insane, 423 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: there was nothing in it. They went crazy. Rachel Maddow 424 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: built like the biggest MSNBC audience ever, pretending that she had, 425 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: you know, the smoking gun on the tax returns. And 426 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: notice how they're not chasened by this at all. There's 427 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: no part of them that has any reflection, self reflection, 428 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: any sense of wow, maybe we're acting like lunatics. I mean, 429 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: this is crazy level stuff. You know, even say I 430 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: sent it to you, Clay Yes, or camera the guy 431 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: who said it, but he's like, look, you know, guys. Ultimately, 432 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: the problem with the Trump is the end of democracy argument, 433 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: which undergirds this whole thing. The whole pitch here for Biden, 434 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: why he should win, why they should prosecute Trump is 435 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: he's a threat to our entire system. And yet if 436 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: anyone just opens their eyes and ears for a day, 437 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: they would they can see that Trump was a better 438 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: president than Biden. Is the country was in better shape. 439 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: Things were going better with Trump in charge than Joe Biden. 440 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: So the he's gonna end the world, you know, he's 441 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,479 Speaker 1: gonna end the world is insane. We've been through this, 442 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: We've already run the experiment once. And the problem Democrats 443 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: have is people have now seen what Joe Biden has 444 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: to and the Democrats and the system around him have 445 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: to offer, and they're saying, yeah, I kind of want 446 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: that Trump got back. That's what's really happening. For all 447 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: their whining and winging and crying, that's the fundamental truth 448 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,719 Speaker 1: that they cannot escape. Then all this legal stuff is 449 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: just it's just noise and obstruction. 450 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: Here by the way, speaking of noise and obstruction is 451 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 2: Jen Saki. They're now, i think, starting to recognize that 452 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: they could be in trouble in the election, and now 453 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: they're just hoping Trump dies. They're just saying, maybe he'll 454 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 2: just die. This is on MSNBC. This is Biden's former 455 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 2: chief White House spokesperson Jensaki. 456 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 5: Listen, I think many of them want to be close 457 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 5: to power. They also assume or have this sot in 458 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 5: their mind that maybe Donald Trump will go away, maybe 459 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 5: he'll go to jail, maybe he will die. Not to 460 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 5: be too morbid, but maybe, I mean, he's not a 461 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 5: young man. I think many of them want to be 462 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 5: close to power. They also assume or have this sot 463 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 5: in their mind that maybe Donald Trump will go away, 464 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 5: maybe he'll go to jail, maybe he will die. 465 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: Not to be too morbid, Okay, maybe he'll just die. 466 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: This is where we are now on the flow chart 467 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: of cope that continuing on the left as we build 468 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: more and more of an argument out there based on 469 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: the data you just heard from Ryan Gerdusky that Trump 470 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: is likely to win. Let's take a couple of calls. 471 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: Buck Curtis in Kentucky. What you got? 472 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 6: Oh, hey, hey klaiy Buck, how you guys? 473 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for calling in. 474 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 6: I heard you Buck the other day on WHS Terry Miners. 475 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 6: You did pretty good because you got to realize he 476 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 6: does not handle conservatives very well. 477 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: You know, he's an interview Oh he was very nice 478 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: the local host. Is he not particularly conservative. No, I 479 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: didn't know. I don't know his work. He was a 480 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: very gentlemanly fellow, though, and I appreciated the interview. 481 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 6: He's a longtime guy, so I give him respect, but 482 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 6: he does not really do conservatives very well. So good 483 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 6: job there. I just wanted to say real quick, you 484 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 6: guys are great. Clay, you are like the home run hitter, 485 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 6: passionate sports guy, and you do get a lot of 486 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 6: home run but Clay, Clay's more of the singles hitter. 487 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 6: He's a little more conservative with his views, so that 488 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 6: you all do compliment each other very well. And uh, 489 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 6: but Clay, you got to quit saying that. You got 490 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 6: to quit talking up this Alabama Wisconsin stuff because Alabama 491 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 6: is going to kill Wisconsin and you know it, and 492 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 6: you're patronizing these Wisconsin. 493 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: The game is months away. I'm looking forward to going 494 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,239 Speaker 2: to Madison. I've never seen a game. I've heard it's 495 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: an amazing place to watch a college football game, and honestly, 496 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 2: Nick Saban's not there anymore. I think Alabama may come 497 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: out flat some games this season, but I'm excited to 498 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: go see it. 499 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 6: I do love you guys, just I just wish that 500 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 6: we could get a vice presidential candidate from like Wisconsin 501 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 6: or Michigan or one of these swing states, and quit 502 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 6: worrying about Christy Nolans because she's done. 503 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: That's done. 504 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 6: Quit worrying about her. 505 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: I would like to not talk about it on the 506 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: show ever again if we can avoid it. So it 507 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: is tough, I would say there is no one that 508 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: can help deliver. I don't believe Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, or Michigan 509 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: on the Republican side. Now, our buddy Ron Johnson just 510 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: one re election in twenty twenty two. The challenge there 511 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: is they have a Democrat governments. You can't you can't 512 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: have up. 513 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: You can't give up that seat because he would appoint 514 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: it that could swing control of the Senate back. And 515 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: Ron Johnson is pretty much the only statewide I'm correcting that. 516 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 2: I think right there there are right now everybody. 517 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: State what I would really need john Yeah, what you 518 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: would really need if you're looking at it from a 519 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: pure and I keep saying that, by the way, thank 520 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: you for the for the kind call, sir, thank you 521 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: for calling in. I would I would keep in mind 522 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: that we need to have a vice president who is 523 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: ready to actually take over. Yeah, you know, President Trump, 524 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: he might just have a health issue. You know, he's 525 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: at an age and again, I know, the guy's super robust. 526 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: I think Trump has twenty more years of him. I really, 527 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: I really think he's going to live to one hundred. 528 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm not concerned. But we do have 529 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: to look at what the role of a vice president is. 530 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: It is to be ready to step in if Trump, 531 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: let's say, just had to step down for six months 532 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: because he had you know, cancer scare or you know 533 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: cancer that he had to not scare, but cancer that 534 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: he had to deal with. Right, you need a vice 535 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: president who can step in and really do the job. 536 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: And you know, so that's a part. Right Usually we 537 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: think a vice president says, eh, you know, an advisor, 538 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: because we've had very young, healthy presidents stretching back for 539 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: a ways now, really going all the way back to 540 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: I love Reagan, he was on the older side. So 541 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: I do think we have to think of it that way. 542 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: And also, the VP, you've got to assume is the 543 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: day facto nominee in two years, yeah, two years before 544 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: this vice press. So it really does matter. It's not 545 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: a secondary consideration, you know, like when when what's your name? 546 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,479 Speaker 1: Llary Clinton had I thank you. I was like, it's 547 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: a Tim, It's one of the Tim's, Tim Kane. Nobody 548 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: even cared because everyone knew that Hillary, you know, you 549 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: were there was no way Hillary would come back from 550 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: the grave to be president, Like it didn't matter. That's 551 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: a little different now because of both of those things, 552 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: not just you know, if Trump had to even step 553 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: away from the role for a while in two years, 554 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: that's the leader of the of the Republican Party de facto. 555 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: We come back. The Boy Scouts have decided they have 556 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: to remove the word boys from their name. This is 557 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: really true. This just happened. Boy Scouts have had a 558 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: lot of tumult. You were a boy Scout bucked. How 559 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: long were you in the Boy Scouts? Oh, I was 560 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: not good. I think a year or two. It was 561 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: in New York City. It was a little sad, you know, 562 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: Would you guys just go to the Central Petrol Park. Yeah, 563 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: They're like, hey, maybe if we take this hot dog 564 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: and put it on a stick, we could find a 565 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: crawdad in the It's like, you know, we weren't exactly 566 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: out in the wild, the wilds of America. My boys did. 567 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: I think the oldest did Boy Scouts. I can't remember 568 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: if the second oldest did. By the third we were 569 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: not in the Boy Scouts. But they're no longer the 570 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: Boy Scouts. That's offensive. 571 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: We'll talk about it when we come back, and maybe 572 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 2: they'd still be called the Boy Scouts if there was 573 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: a little bit of testosterone still left in the American 574 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 2: body politic. You know, your natural testosterone level begins to 575 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: decline when you get outside of your twenties, when you 576 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 2: go into your thirties, forties and on down, and that's 577 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 2: sometimes why you don't feel like you have the same 578 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 2: vim vigor, vitality that you otherwise would, and eventually it 579 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: can lead to you being basically a sleepwalking Joe Biden example, 580 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 2: as you slowly stride across the grass and try to 581 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 2: avoid falling all over yourself. I'd like to be able 582 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 2: to give Joe Biden a lot of testosterone. 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Biden administration and 591 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 2: Biden voters in general, who are male have some of 592 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: the lowest levels of testosterone you can possibly imagine. Right now, 593 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: Chalk offering a massive sale on any subscription for life. 594 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 2: Visit cchoq dot com. My name Clay as the promo 595 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 2: code to unlock the offer that cchoq dot com promo 596 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: code Clay. 597 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: You can see what. 598 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 4: They're doing to a wonderful organization. The Voice Scouts no 599 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 4: longer called Voice Scouts. They're calling it Scouting America. Now 600 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 4: they have changed the name of the Boy Scouts. Welcome 601 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 4: back everybody to Clay and Book. Very upsetting here, Clay. 602 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: People are saying the Boy Scouts no longer the Boy 603 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: Scouts Scouting America. What I mean? What has gone on here? 604 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: I will tell you my I don't think I was 605 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: a particularly particularly good at the Boy Scouts because, even 606 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: at a young age, the prospect of going to some 607 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: wilderness area off of I ninety five in New Jersey 608 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: and like pretty head bodies. Yeah, pitching a tent on 609 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: the ground with like, you know, trucks going by Hong 610 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: Khung like it just didn't really excite me. I think 611 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,479 Speaker 1: if I lived in other parts of the country would 612 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: have been more my speed. Perhaps, But you would think 613 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: that the tradition and it seems like such an all 614 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: American organization. Uh, and now they have to change the 615 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: name of it. What what is the world coming to? 616 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: I would like, I've said this for a long time. 617 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: I think you and I would be great at this. 618 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 1: I wish we could sit down. Oh wow, they're changing 619 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: the name because of bad press from sexual abuse claims. 620 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: I get it, but I don't understand how that helps. Yeah, 621 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't understand how that helps either. I don't. 622 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm looking at this, I'm like, wait a second. I mean, 623 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: I wish that we could sit down on all naming issues. 624 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 6: Right. 625 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 2: The Cleveland Indians have to become the Cleveland Guardians. The 626 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 2: Washington Redskins are now the Washington Commanders. 627 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: That all these different entity that has these kinds of problems, 628 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 1: like changing the name is and first of all, it 629 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: makes it seem like the organization was the organization, you know. 630 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: I mean there were people that did bad things in 631 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: the organ I got to read about the Catholic Church. 632 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: Isn't renaming the Catholic Church over alter boy controversies? Right, 633 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: there were some awful priests inside of the Catholic Church. 634 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: They're not like, hey, let's just rebrand the Catholic I mean, 635 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: all of this renaming is such. Do you remember when 636 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: they changed the disabled list to the injured list in 637 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball because they said it was offensive. I 638 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: want to just negotiate once and for all. No names 639 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: will get changed. 640 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 2: Right like you and me, I think could sit on 641 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 2: one side of the table, all of the perpetually aggrieved 642 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 2: and offended people could sit on the others, and let's 643 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 2: just have an actual negotiation decide this forever. There's also 644 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 2: been a whole thing about that now it's inclusive of 645 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 2: the LGBTQ plus and no, no, this that's interesting, Yahoo Knews. 646 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 2: I should have known better. The first thing of the 647 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 2: ap here, there's a whole transformation of the organization. It's 648 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 2: not just because of bad riff. They've transformed the Boy 649 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 2: Scouts into something else. 650 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Scout are not a boy You can be 651 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: in the boy Scouts now, which seems that is actually 652 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: what is going so that is what is going on here. 653 00:36:52,239 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: Sleeve Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth. E.