1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Hi. 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson. 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 2: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling. 5 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 3: Railvalry, No, no, sibling, don't do that with your mouth, Revelry. 6 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: That's good. Oliver Hudson here reporting live from Wilder Hudson's room. 7 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: I think every podcast episode now will open up with 8 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: me explaining what room I'm in in the house, because 9 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: it always changes. Just sat down at the kid's desk. 10 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: I'm looking at his gaming computer right now. I'm understanding 11 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: more and more about him as I scan this room. 12 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: I just put some of his Carmacks on, which it's 13 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 2: kind of weird that he's buying CarMax, you know. I mean, 14 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 2: that's so old school. It reminds me of my childhood. 15 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's like terrible for you, and I'm sure 16 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: the chemicals and CarMax are real. So that's where I'm at. 17 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: That's what I'm doing right now, and I just got 18 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: back from Colorado. I went too bolder because Wilder, my 19 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 2: eighteen year old, is his senior year in high school 20 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 2: and this is where he wants to go. So we 21 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: went and looked at the campus. Was me, myself, and 22 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: his mother, Aaron, and it was amazing. It was just 23 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: so cool. That's where I went for two years. By 24 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: the way, two years two years because I grew up 25 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: in la in a not a fast life, but you know, 26 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: you're sort of doing more. I get to Bolder the 27 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: first I actually have a story. I don't know if 28 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: I should tell it or not, if it's too long. 29 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: Win died, we but I'm gonna tell the story. 30 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: Fuck it. 31 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: So we get to our dorm. It's my friend John 32 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: and myself, best friends in high school, go to college together, 33 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: and we're getting our stuff together our dorm room and 34 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: we get a knock on the door and it's this dude. 35 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: He's sort of talking like this, he's a mullet, and 36 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: he's like, what's up, bros, dude, fucking welcome freshman year. 37 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: What's your name? And I'm like, Hey, what's up, buddy, 38 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 2: I'm Oliver Hudson. Nice to meet you. Cool bro, gives 39 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 2: me a hug. Cut to two hours later, the guy 40 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 2: is hammered and literally runs into a door on purpose 41 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: and knocks himself out, and I'm like, okay, welcome. It's 42 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: a bolder At that moment, I said, I'll be here 43 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: two years. I'm gonna be living the dorms. I'm gonna 44 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: live off campus. I think I got it, and then 45 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: I'm out, and I was out. I knew what I 46 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: wanted to do with my life, getting in the movie industry. 47 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: So I was like, look, I had fun. I'm not 48 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 2: gonna waste any more money my parents. It's money to 49 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 2: be straight, and I'm gone. That was my Boulder experience. Anyway, 50 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: point is Wilder wants to go there as well, and 51 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 2: hopefully he learns more than I did. Went up to Colorado, 52 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: went up to Aspen after that. The leaves are changing. 53 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: It was incredibly beautiful. And now I'm just rambling, but 54 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: I love fucking Colorado. Anyway, Enough about me, enough about 55 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: me and my stories, because we have someone who has 56 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: changed lives in the waiting room. He has been in 57 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: our podcast before, way back in the day when Katie 58 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: and I first started this thing, when we were actually 59 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: doing it in person before COVID. He's known as the 60 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: medical Medium, but to me, he's Anthony william Let's chat. 61 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: Come on in aunt, whats look at this guy? Look 62 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: at this guy. He's got a big he's got a 63 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: big vat of orange juice. He's wearing cool ass sun. 64 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: Last time I saw this dude, he was not as 65 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: cool as he is. Now. This guy, he's a rock star. 66 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: Now you've turned into a rock star. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 67 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: You're like you're like Zach Galafanaki, like between two ferns, 68 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: except I don't know if those are ferns, those are poems. 69 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm honored, man, I'm honored. What are you kidding? Hey man, 70 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: thank you compliment from you. Man. 71 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 2: You look great, buddy, Thank you for coming on again. 72 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: It's been a long time. 73 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: You look great too. Seriously, I'm honored to be here. 74 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: It's this is great. It's so good to see you. Wow. Man. 75 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, have you been good? 76 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: Good? 77 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 78 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: Working, working my ass off. 79 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: You know you never stop, never stop? Man, how it is? 80 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I know you're busy. It's just busy, busy. 81 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: Got to just you know, keep on pushing along, try 82 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: to save as many lives as we can. You know, 83 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: anything we can do. 84 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I know your story, but let's give it. 85 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: I want to get into a brief sort of synopsis 86 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: of sort of your childhood growing up, you know, how 87 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: you sort of discovered this gift, the spirit of compassion. 88 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean with me, it was age four. 89 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: I woke up one morning. I heard a voice and 90 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't mine, and it wasn't anybody else around me. 91 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: It wasn't I thought somebody was talking out the window. 92 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: I went to the window, I got out of bed, 93 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: and I was looking out the window. And then I 94 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: went looking for my family and it wasn't them. And 95 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: this voice was talking about all kinds of different things. 96 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: And one of the the crazy things about all of it, 97 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: it was it was focused about health. It was focused 98 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: about chronic illness, and it was focused about the things 99 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: that make people sick. And the voice never went away. 100 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: It just stayed there forever since you know, since then 101 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,679 Speaker 1: until now. And so how to dedicate my life because 102 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: of it to giving people answers, you know, advanced information 103 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: about why people are suffering and struggling. And and my 104 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: childhood was hard because of it. It was not like 105 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: this easy thing because the voice wasn't inside my head. 106 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: It'd be different. If it was inside my head, it 107 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: would be a different story, you know. And you know, 108 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: when people have racing thoughts, you know, people have racing 109 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: thoughts and they got like, you know, they got repetitive stuff, 110 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: or they got something going on in their mind, and 111 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't that at all, Like my thoughts would be 112 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: kind of they could be cool and calm in the 113 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: whole bit. And then I would hear this voice on 114 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: the right side of my body going to the right 115 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: side of my head in my ear, and that voice 116 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: would tell me something like, you know, I'd be in 117 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: elementary school and there'd be a kid next to me 118 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: and the voice would say, you know, he's got meningitis. 119 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: So I'd be like, meningitis, What is that? 120 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: Hey, that's what I was about to say, Like you're 121 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: you're four or five, six, seven years old, You're hearing 122 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 2: all these words kind of like the hell is that? 123 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: Exactly? Every word was like that. Every word I heard 124 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: pretty much was like that meningitis. So I wouldn't be 125 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: able to say it even right, And so I went 126 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: to the teacher and was like, you know, he's got meningitis, 127 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: and the teacher started freaking out, and teacher teacher kind 128 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: of held me behind, you know, class there called the parents, 129 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: the kid's parents called the kid up. Then we were 130 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, staying behind afterwards, and the teacher would be like, 131 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: do you have meningitis? That could be like I've never 132 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: even heard of that. What is that? And and they're like, 133 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: why do you think he has meningitis? And I would say, 134 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: I know he has meningitis. So parents came in. Then 135 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: my parents came in and it became this big thing 136 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: like you know, and my parents are like, thinking I 137 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: had meningitis. I'm like, no, I don't have men injitas. 138 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: He got it, and then that night he came down 139 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: with a fever one hundred and four hundred and five. 140 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: They had a Russian to the hospital, never came to class. 141 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: The next day he had meningitis. Wow, he diagnosed with 142 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: it and he was in the hospital. And so then 143 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: it became how did he know this? Like how did 144 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: he know this? So and back then one hundred years ago, 145 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: because it's what it feels like back all the way. 146 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: Then it was that was something like wait a minute, 147 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, how is this possible? And my parents had 148 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: to tell like they had to tell the teacher and 149 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: the principle like, no, he understands, like he knows these 150 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: medical terms and he knows when someone's getting some kind 151 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: of sickness and he knows this and it's been like 152 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: that since age four and here I am, you know, 153 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: age seven, and that's happening. And so yeah, that's just 154 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: an example of how it was. 155 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: At what point though, did you so did you have 156 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: brothers and sisters? 157 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? You did, Yeah, and they they they heard that. 158 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: You know, I have two others and they heard all 159 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: of this growing up, and you know, my family gave 160 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: me great support. 161 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting because when you're putting yourself in your parents' shoes, 162 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: or when I am and let's say, this is happening 163 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: and my son is now spouting these things and telling 164 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: people that they have certain diseases, there's got to be 165 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: a part of you or a part of their parents, 166 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: your parents that are concerned at first, you know, before 167 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: that they truly understand that maybe this is a gift. 168 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 2: Was there ever that moment where your parents like, aunt, 169 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: like what's up, buddy? Like do we need to get 170 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: you checked? 171 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, for sure, for sure? And then the thing 172 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: that happened was it would be like proven right, And 173 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: that's where you can't like get away from it. You know, 174 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: I was with my dad, we were at this convention. 175 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: I was just a little kid and we were it 176 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: was like a historian convention. It was all about historic 177 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: things and everything. And I went and I bothered someone 178 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: that was there. I heard information. You know, it was like, 179 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, you have this condition, you have this problem. 180 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: And they're like, wait a minute, you know, how do 181 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: you know that? What's what is this next thing? You know? 182 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: It like an hour later, you know, my dad's looking 183 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: for me, like where did he go? In like fifteen 184 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: twenty minutes later, it's like where did and a line 185 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: has started a line, and now there's people wanting you know, readings. 186 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: They're just a line of people here. I am this 187 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: little kid, and they're asking me like what's wrong with this? 188 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: How come this hurts here? And the next thing, you know, 189 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: and this big convention we were at, there was about 190 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: one hundred people waiting in line because everybody was saying, 191 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: this kid knows what's going on. He figured it out, 192 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: and you know, and it just kept on going from 193 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: just one person to another. And that's so my parents. 194 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: My parents were, you know, they were really supportive because 195 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: it was just it was what it was, Yeah, and 196 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: you couldn't get away from it. And yeah, it was 197 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: back then too, it was odd. I mean now it's odd. 198 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: No, I know, for but did it prevent you from 199 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: having sort of a normal I guess if you want 200 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 2: to call it that childhood or you know, teenagehood into 201 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 2: adulthood where you're in high school or you're college, or 202 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: you're a young man who just wants to kind of cruise. 203 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: You know. No, it's a struggle, it really is. You know, 204 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: it was a struggle when I was a kid. It 205 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: was a struggle all through the teens. You know, the 206 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: voice I would hear, which I call spirit of compassion. 207 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: That voice even forewarned me when you get when you 208 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: become a teenager, it's going to get real difficult because 209 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: it's going to be hard to hear me, the voice. 210 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: It's going to be hard to hear me while you're 211 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: trying to live your life. I mean, I just wanted 212 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: to have fun, and I was like, you know, wanted 213 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: to be a regular kid and not worry about someone suffering. 214 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: And that's that was a big thing right there. And 215 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: then I had to do a lot of training, like 216 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: in a cemetery that was near our home. I spent 217 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: countless hours in that cemetery and this voice I heard, 218 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: spirit of compassion. SoC would be like how did this 219 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: person die? How did that person die? So be standing 220 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: over a grave and here I am, you know, eight, nine, ten, 221 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: eleven years old, twelve years old, I'd be standing over 222 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: a grave and I'd have to be like I was 223 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: in training, like you know, this person died of a 224 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: car accident, not from a disease, you know, and it 225 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: would be it would I would spend a lot of 226 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: time in that cemetery. So that wasn't a normal life. 227 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: And yeah, I just wanted to ride my bike, you know, 228 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: go fishing, skateboarding, whatever, you know for sure. But when 229 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: you hear this voice all the time, it interfered constantly, 230 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: just endlessly interfered. But it was always to try to 231 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: help somebody or to try to teach me about what's 232 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: happening in the world, like you know, like what's going 233 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: on and why people are sick, and how the world 234 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: has unbalanced all that, you know, all that. So it 235 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: was really yeah, it was really hard. 236 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 2: Were you are you religious? I mean, do you believe 237 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: in God? I mean when we're talking, you know what 238 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 2: I mean, where are you at with that? Because you're 239 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: actually communicating with something. 240 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're communicating with something. So yeah, I do believe 241 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: in God and it's a big part of my life, 242 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: it really is. And just because I hear this voice, 243 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: and the voice I'm hearing is not God, So it's 244 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: not God. So it's not like God's talking to me 245 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: and that's who I hear. That's not what it is. 246 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: Spirit of Compassion is not an angel either. Spirit of 247 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: Compassion is not a ghost. It's not a spirits. I 248 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: was told this when I was a child, and then 249 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: Spirit of Compassion told me that he is a word, 250 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: so the word compassion. And so I had to kind 251 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: of like grapple with that and be like, well, that's 252 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: not what I'm I'm hearing a voice. I'm hearing, like 253 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, clearly a voice and you know it. But yes, 254 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: I believe in God. Yes if you call that religious, 255 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: then I'm religious. 256 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: But how do you square It's like how do you 257 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: square that? You know? I know, it's kind of like WHOA, 258 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: what is happening here? You know you're having an experiential 259 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: you know, moment not moment throughout your life where you 260 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: know you're. 261 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: Actually you know, I look back now and when I 262 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: think about it, back then, every single thing had meaning. 263 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: You know. It was like when my dog was drowning, 264 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: It was I was I was a little bit older, wasn't. 265 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: I was just out of my teens, and my dog 266 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: was got into this, like got jumped into the water 267 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: into this cold bay way up north and it was 268 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: icy cold at temperature of the water was probably like 269 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: thirty eight or something like that, forty degrees. And my 270 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: dog got out there and wasn't coming back because she 271 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: got caught in the surf out there, and there was 272 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: just no way. I knew she was gonna drown. And 273 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: I saw her just struggling out there and sway out there, 274 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: so I just I just jumped in swam out there, 275 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: and she went down. And Spirit of Compassion said to me, 276 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: you know, you're basically committing suicide right now. That's what 277 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: you're doing, because there's no there's no coming back from this. 278 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna be you know, you're going to shut down 279 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: and you're gonna you're gonna drown. And I felt like, 280 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, it was I felt like, you know, what 281 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: all that I've done and how I have to dedicate 282 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: my whole life to helping people's was already helping people. 283 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: I was already on the daily helping people at that point. 284 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: You know, I had people from all around the world 285 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: contacting me. 286 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: I had how old are you at this point? 287 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: I was like nineteen years old, eighteen, nineteen twenty in 288 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: this timeframe, and my early twenties in that timeframe, I 289 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: was already helping people. I was already working. I was 290 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: at work. 291 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: Wow. 292 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: And so when I was when I was out in 293 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: our water trying to save my dog's life, I felt like, look, 294 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: if I'm dedicating my entire life to this, if I 295 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: have to hear a voice day in and day out 296 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: that can't be shut off about people suffering and their 297 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: struggling and their chronic illness and their diseases and symptoms, 298 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: and their losses and their struggles, if I have to 299 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: hear about that NonStop, then you know I want my dog. 300 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: So I went out there. Part of me kind of 301 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: knew I might I may not be coming back. And 302 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: I swam out there. I went down into the water 303 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: and I saw my dog in the arms of an angel. 304 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: An angel underwater was holding my dog and just basically 305 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: handed my dog when I was underwater to me, and 306 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 1: I felt like I had superhuman powers, and I grabbed 307 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: my dog and I surfaced, and then Spirit of Compassion 308 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: said that basically, we can't keep that angel here any longer. 309 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: That angel is not gonna stay here any longer. You 310 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: have to get back. And we barely made it back 311 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: to shore, I mean crawled up that shore, and my 312 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: dog's life was saved. And I'll never forget this because 313 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: I get emotional talking about it. I just get emotional 314 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: talking about it, and I can't forget about it because 315 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: I felt like that was like okay, now, okay, okay, 316 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna complain. I'm not gonna bitch. I'm not 317 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 1: gonna moan about crap. I'm not gonna be, you know, 318 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: a whiner. I'm just gonna do what I need to do. 319 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna work with light. I'm gonna help heal people. 320 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to have them come and see me. I'm 321 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: going to talk to whoever needs help. I'm going to 322 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: find the answer for them. I'm going to listen to 323 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: Spirit of Compassion. I'm not going to dodge out. I'm 324 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: not going to try to run. I'm not going to 325 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: try to get away from it. I'm going to be 326 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: committed like committed, committed, because when I was younger before that, 327 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: I was struggling. When I was eight, nine, ten years old, 328 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: I was like, why do I have to care about anybody? 329 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? Ah, So that was your sort of turning point, 330 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 2: your transition of you know what, Yeah, this is now 331 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 2: I this is a gift and I need to sort 332 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: of honor this gift. Prior to that, I can imagine 333 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 2: being a young man, You're like this is great and all, 334 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: but do I want this? I don't want this, you know. 335 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I know I'm helping people, but it's like, 336 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 2: oh God, like this is more of a burden, right. 337 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: And it was. It was. It was an everyday burden 338 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: because you know, and a lot of times I would 339 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: say to myself, Okay, turn it off, you know, turn 340 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: it off. This has to stop now. I don't care. 341 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I remember there was this time when I 342 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: was eight years old. It was really tough, this one 343 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: moment where I was like, Okay, I need this off now, 344 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: I need this away because you know, wherever I went, 345 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: it'd be in a store with my family, it would 346 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: be you know, you go to the beach with my family. 347 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: Whatever it is. You just hear about everybody's struggles and 348 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: their sickness and their illness, if they even have something 349 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: going on, and you hear about it. I'd be in 350 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: the car in the back seat and I would hear 351 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: from spirit compassion about the people next to a cent 352 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: A car and the other people next to a center car. 353 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: And it was the kind of thing where I was like, Okay, 354 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: I'm done now. This was great for the last four years, 355 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: but we have come to an end. This is this 356 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: is it. I'm parting ways like I'm parting ways with you. 357 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: And that's that's what I said at eight, And it 358 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: just was a useless thing to say. 359 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,239 Speaker 2: No, you're not, No, you're not. 360 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: It didn't happen that way. It wasn't going to happen. So, 361 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: you know, a lifetime of this now I look at 362 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: it differently in a lot of ways you do, but man, 363 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: I've you know, my early childhood was really hard with that, 364 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: and then my teenager years were really hard with it. 365 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: And you know, it's a matter of like, Okay, no, 366 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: I want to live normal. No, I guess I'm not 367 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: going to be able to live normal, or I accept 368 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: it at some point. 369 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: Right I was about to say, there's a moment of 370 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 2: surrender where it's like, Okay, if this is it, I'm 371 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 2: going to lean into it, you know. Yeah, and then 372 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: at what point did you write your first book? How 373 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: did you become the medical medium? You know, where was 374 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 2: what was that jump off where you're like, okay, like 375 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 2: this is it. Now I'm in the zeitgeist, you know, 376 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: now I am I have some notoriety here to where 377 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 2: I can really sort of my outreach is. 378 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: You know, the health movement back years ago, thirty five 379 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: years ago, thirty seven years ago, forty years ago was 380 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: really small. 381 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 2: It was really really small. 382 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: It was like ridiculous, like that's how small it was. 383 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: And I was helping everybody and anybody in the health movement, 384 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: anybody who was sick, who knew somebody or another. People 385 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: would come from all around. I had an office and 386 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: then I had a second office, and I worked on 387 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: helping people recover their lives. This is way long before 388 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: social media, and this is way long before anything. And 389 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, Spirit of Compassion Woul always say, well, you 390 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: have to get a book done, you have to get 391 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: a book out there. You have to And it was 392 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: hard to switch gears to get that book going because 393 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: I mean I had a twenty four hour, seven day 394 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: a week emergency service. I mean people can call me 395 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: at two in the morning. Back in the older days, 396 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: people knocked on my door at two in the morning. Wow, 397 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: like three in the morning down the door was It 398 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: was like that. There was, you know, a time period 399 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: where I would have, like Saturdays, instead of me getting 400 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: rest or I would be able to like chill out 401 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: or something like a normal person would. Saturdays would be 402 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: like light work day. It would be a line of people, 403 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, fifty sixty people on a Saturday morning at 404 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: my office. People coming in giving them a light blast. Boom, 405 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: they're out, Another person coming in giving them a light blast. 406 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: And it was like this Saturday morning was you know, 407 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: light blast day. 408 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: So wait, what is a What is a light blast? 409 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: Light blast is something that I was taught to do 410 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: when I was younger, Spirit of compassion. So it's light 411 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: coming from above and being timed just right and directed 412 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: to the crown of somebody's head and it hits him 413 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: on the top of the head and life changing results happen. 414 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: You know, Like if I'm at an event and people 415 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: come there, I'll try to do a light blast and 416 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you believe in it, don't believe in it, 417 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you're somebody on the edge of the 418 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: street looking in, it's going to probably hit you at 419 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: that point, and it hits you on top of the 420 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: head and it gets time just right, you know, from 421 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: spirit of compassion, where this light comes down and people 422 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: get life changing results. It's just since I was a 423 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: child that's been like this, Well, all of a sudden, 424 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: their knee, their pain in their knees gone, or that's it, 425 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: their pain in their rib is gone that they've had 426 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: for ten years. It's this miraculous process, this miraculous thing 427 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: that happens. It's truly profound for you know, for people 428 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: to experience that. And most people, many of them, they 429 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: see light flash in their eyes or they'll just they'll 430 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: feel it hit them. It's truly a blessing that was 431 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: given to me to offer for people. And I remember 432 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: going back decades ago and it would be like light 433 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: blit last day and there would just be crowds of 434 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: people waiting outside my little shack and to come in 435 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: and just light blasts, and then they would leave light 436 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: last day with one at a time until literally until 437 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,719 Speaker 1: I was going to drop by the end of the 438 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: by the end of the night, and I couldn't turn 439 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: anybody down. And I was like that too when I 440 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: had a seven million waiting lists. I couldn't turn anybody down. 441 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 2: There's just you just. 442 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: Could not do it. You just worked until you know, 443 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: I would literally get to a point where spirit compassions 444 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: is you're going to fall apart and you're gonna you're 445 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: you're not superhuman, You're going to you can use the 446 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: tools that's given like that that I've been that I've 447 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: learned from spirit, those tools, I've learned to take care 448 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: of myself. But I've also burned myself to the ground, 449 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: you know, through the process of trying to heal people 450 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: and helping people heal and healing people all through my 451 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: life since I was a child, and I'd have to 452 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: use these tools to keep me strong enough so I 453 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: can do it. I mean, there was no I didn't have, 454 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: Like I didn't have the life when I was growing up, 455 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: in my in my twenties and my early twenties and 456 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: my late twenties and my early thirties where I would 457 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: go and just exercise, you know, let me go do 458 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: three hours in the gym, you know what I mean. 459 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: Let me do three hours in the gym every day, 460 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: and then after that, I'll go on somebody's party boat. 461 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: After that, I'll go I'll go down the beach. Maybe 462 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: I'll do a party. I'll go to a party that night. 463 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: That wasn't my life. My life was like you know, 464 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: you just you worked in the office. You worked on 465 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: people day in and day out, and then you worked 466 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: on the phone with them day in and day out. 467 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: Didn't matter what time. I didn't do this thing where 468 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to sleep now from eleven o'clock at night 469 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: to seven in the morning. It was like, no, I 470 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: had a twenty four hour service. Yeah, and that's that's 471 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: what happened, man. 472 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: I mean eventually that you have to change that to 473 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 2: have a sane, normal life. Yeah. 474 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: So I've squeaked it a little bit of that before, 475 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: you know, before I end up like completely dissolving. I 476 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: squeaked in a little bit of that. But the first 477 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: book I was working on many years ago, many years 478 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: ago before it was published, ten years ago. I handed 479 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: into the publisher I think in twelve years ago, and 480 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: that first book, Medical Medium that finally came out. That 481 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: book was just it was life changing for so many people. Okay, 482 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: so many. 483 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 2: Lives, I know. So what's the let's talk about the 484 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 2: foundation of sort of the first book and how it's 485 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: sort of pressed on past that. But what is your 486 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: foundation for all of this? 487 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: Well, it's about somebody being able to rise from me. 488 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 2: Because salary juice was the big thing back in the day. 489 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: It was like, I mean, everybody's still drinking it. No 490 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: one will talk about it, but everybody's still drinking all 491 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: the same. All the farms are producing. It doesn't stay 492 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: in the stores. Everybody's buying tons, they're all juicing it. 493 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: But because there's you know, we're in a world now 494 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: where anybody who's anybody on social they're not going to 495 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: talk about something unless they're being paid, right, unless it's 496 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: theirs or they're being paid something like that. Right, that's 497 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: how the world works. So no one's going to talk 498 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: about cellery now. I mean, people still are still talking 499 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: about it, don't get me wrong, they still are. And 500 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: it's but it's in all the stores. It's in every 501 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: health food store. It's you know, people are drinking it. 502 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: Every supermodel's on cellary juice. It's it's all good it's 503 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: just that everybody is quiet about it while they're doing 504 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: it because you can't make any money off of it. 505 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: There's nothing, there's no you can't. It's like you take celery, 506 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: it's juiced in a store, it's juiced in whatever, in 507 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: a juice shop, and you drink it and you heal. 508 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: You make your own cellary juice, you drink it and 509 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: you heal. And so because of that, it's like that 510 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: that little bit of a secret slash. Everybody's doing it, 511 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 1: but they keep it kind of quiet because it makes nobody. 512 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: It's one of those things I mean, but yeah, it's 513 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: celary juice is legendary. You get on sixteen ounces thirty 514 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: two ounces of celary juice. You got a problem, you know, 515 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: there's a very good chance you're going to just be 516 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: kissing that problem goodbye, unless you're really sick, and then 517 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: you're still gonna need celary juice, yeah, because you're gonna 518 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: feel benefits. But you might need some additional stuff too. 519 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: But celery juice is like what a healing weapon that is. 520 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, we'll get back to the sort of the 521 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 2: when you wrote your first book, what you were trying 522 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: to get across you know because essentially that that those 523 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: are your roots, you know, and then you move from 524 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: there into all different different factions. But those are your roots. 525 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: What were those roots? Rounded in roots are? 526 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: You know? You've been to one hundred doctors, yeap, doesn't 527 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: matter if you like me, don't like me, like the 528 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: way I look, don't like the way I look, like 529 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: the way I sound, don't like the way it sound, 530 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: whatever it is, you know, it doesn't matter. If you're sick, 531 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: if you're struggling, you know, get that book or get 532 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: that Medical Medium information under your belt because it's life saving. 533 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: It's changed so many lives. And that foundation is that, 534 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: you know, the first Medical Medium book, it was all about, 535 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: here's why you're suffering, makes and pains, tingles and numbness, 536 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: ringing in the ears, vertigo, dizziness, Maneir's disease, whatever it 537 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: is that you have. Ra true causes of these diseases 538 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: and symptoms, fibromiology, lime disease, true causes of multiple scrosses, 539 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: true causes of all these conditions are going to be 540 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: in your hands. It's about the foundation is the true causes, 541 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: the real, true causes of mystery illnesses like shingles, behind 542 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: mystery symptoms conditions, you know, and Epstein bar behind anxiety 543 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: and depression in toxic heavy metals, autism and ADHD like real, real, meaningful, 544 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: powerful ways to heal, and it's in that book. And yeah, 545 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: that's like the foundational aspect of it. 546 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: And then you give ideas, you know, then you give 547 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: protocols on how to heal. 548 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: Protocols on how to heal exactly, and that book was 549 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: I had to get that book out. I had to. 550 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: At that point, with the waiting list of people needing 551 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: help from me, I knew that I just couldn't crack 552 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: at that seven million waiting list anymore. That was building quick. 553 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: I had to get the book out there. It had 554 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: to happen. And Spirit Compassion was like, do it. Now, 555 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: you have to push through, and you have to. You 556 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: have to shift and get that book out there to 557 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: save lives. And then at this time, and you probably 558 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: remember this, but everybody was afraid of fruit. Don't eat fruit. 559 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: No one in the health movement was allowed to eat fruit. 560 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: People were altered. It was sugar's evil and fruit is 561 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: sugar and fruit is the reason why you're sick. And meanwhile, 562 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: nobody really ate fruit. But fruit fear was rampant at 563 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: the time, like absolutely rampant, and that book exploded the 564 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: truth about how fruit helps you heal. It's the reason 565 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: why fruit is even let in the door in the 566 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: carnivore movement right now. Carnivore movement was like they had 567 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: to bring in fruit, so they're using medical medium information. 568 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: They had to get away from that fruit fear. It's 569 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: it's just the foundational tools right now in the health movement. 570 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: They stem from medical medium information. Whether anybody likes it 571 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: or not, you know, it is what it is. And 572 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: the track record to people healing was insane and still 573 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: is to this day. 574 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: And it's all natural, right, I mean, it's all of 575 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 2: course natural stuff. It's food, it's juice, is it's all 576 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: of that? 577 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: Is it? 578 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 2: Is it food? Is there food based? 579 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh yeah. One of the one of the greatest, 580 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: one of the greatest of all time, which is the 581 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: most popular detos there is in the world right now. 582 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: It's the medical medium heavy metal detox. It's the most popular, 583 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: the most powerful heavy metal detos in the world right now, 584 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: and people swear by it. It's not just like one 585 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: person got better, it's millions of people got it's a 586 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: combination of these five key ingredients of spirillina, barley, grass, juice, powder, 587 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: wild blueberries, not regular blueberries, that got to be wild blueberries, 588 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: dulce which is Atlantic you know coast, It's a sea 589 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: vegetable on the Atlantic coast, so it's dulce that has 590 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: to be there, cilantro that has to be there. And 591 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: that heavy metal detox has saved lives. And then the 592 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: twenty eight day cleanse. People being able to do a 593 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: twenty eight day cleanse that wasn't hard to do, and 594 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: it just moved the move them forward. There were so 595 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: many tools in there. There was the medical medium, spinned soup, 596 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: there was the celery juice. It's these tools and then 597 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: it's why I'm sick, Like, oh my god, I know 598 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: why I'm sick now. For the first time, it wasn't 599 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: just a book of protocols. It was a book of 600 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,719 Speaker 1: here's why you're sick. And it was your mono that 601 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: you had, mono nucleosis you had when you were in 602 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: your twenties, it was the mononucleosis you had when you 603 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: were in your teens. Well, you're now sick at forty 604 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: years old because of your mononucleosis when you were in 605 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: your teens, and it was because the virus came back out. 606 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: And I talked all about this, how these viruses come 607 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: back out later and they end up giving you all 608 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: kinds of neurological symptoms. And here's another thing. Nobody talked 609 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: about neurological symptoms back then. It was nobody knew people 610 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: who were sick had neurological symptoms. It was medical medium 611 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: information was all about the neurological symptoms. So this foundation 612 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: of how to heal, and you know, and it's still 613 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: happening now every day with the medical medium books and 614 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: people finding answers. They're finding the answers every day with 615 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: that information and healing. And I can say this confidently. 616 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: There's nothing in the health movement anywhere anyhow, both conventional 617 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: and in alternative, that has healed more people than the 618 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: medical leadium information, the track record, all of it. 619 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're so your skeptics, the haters, do you just. 620 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: Say plenty of those. 621 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 2: And of course that's in everything, But are you just 622 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 2: kind of like, no, I'm not going to respond, fuck off, 623 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 2: Like you can think what you want. But I know, 624 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 2: of course I know who I am I know what 625 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 2: I feel, I know what I've done, and there's a 626 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 2: billion testimonials to sort of prove me right, even though 627 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 2: I don't need there is. I don't need to be 628 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 2: proven right. I just understand and know. I mean, or 629 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 2: do you ever get bothered by the hater? 630 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: Well, I mean the hardest part, the hardest part of 631 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: all is someone getting like one piece of medical medium 632 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: information to get one piece, but it's mixed in with 633 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: a bunch of crap that won't get them better, they 634 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: won't heal, and then they don't know where they need 635 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: to go to get the rest of it. So they're 636 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,439 Speaker 1: going to be sick for the next ten years, fifteen years, 637 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: brain fog, you know, fatigue, weird, you know tremors and 638 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: restless leg syndrome, and you know gum pain, jaw pain, 639 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: burning tongue, burning mouth like you know, burning feet, whatever 640 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: they're dealing with. It's like boom, They're gonna just be 641 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: sick for the next ten years. With that next fifteen 642 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: years until they find out they got to get the 643 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: metals out, until they find out it's the mercury and 644 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 1: the aluminum in the copper and how it works, until 645 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: they know how to kill off the viruses in their body, 646 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: and then they need to know how they can have 647 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: a non rashing shingles virus where you don't see a rash, 648 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: but you're in pain. You're just your body's in pain 649 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: every day. Until they learn this, mystery back pain and 650 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: mystery jaw pain and head pain. Until they know this, 651 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: they're not going to really get the answers they need. 652 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: And so the sad part is you see, like you 653 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: see some poach, some poach to medical media. Information that's taken, 654 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: it's put, it's out there. Someone's doing something that's good 655 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: for them, but they don't know that where to get 656 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: the rest of it. They don't know where to get, 657 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: you know, what they need. They don't know where to 658 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: learn about how they got sick and what to avoid. 659 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: Like I blew up the whole thing on fragrances, like 660 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: the plug in air fresheners, and you know, the the 661 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: clones and perfumes and the fabric softeners and the detergents. 662 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: I mean I remember back ten years ago, I was 663 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: blowing the world up with that information and everybody was like, 664 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: what are you crazy? Who cares about a refresheners? The 665 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: health movement was like, who cares about air refresheners? Are 666 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: you nuts? Then I was talking about how alcohol was 667 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: not good, and then health movement was like, oh, you 668 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 1: shouldn't be talking about that because all the podcast doctors 669 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: drink wine. They all drink you know, champagne and wine, 670 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: and anybody in the health movement, whoever they were, for 671 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: the most part, almost every one of them was drinking alcohol. 672 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: So it was like every time I came out with like, 673 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: this is why you shouldn't do this. You shouldn't have caffeine, 674 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: you shouldn't have alcohol. Here's what caffeine does to your brain. 675 00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: You know you shouldn't be doing this is really early on. 676 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: The whole fragrance thing is a medical medium going on 677 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: decades now, and then the plug in air fresheners, pull 678 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 1: them out and throw them out. Now you'll see every day, 679 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, another influencer, doctor, somebody, chiropractor 680 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: will be like, you need to take out your ear 681 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: fresheners and throw them away. It's like, dude, I've been 682 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: teaching about that for forever, for decades, and I got 683 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: a lot of crap for it it. But what's sad is, yeah, 684 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: take your a fresheners and throw them away. But if 685 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: you're suffering with like a condition, a serious condition, like 686 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: you're really struggling, you better get the MM info, the 687 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: medical medium information, so you can you can move forward 688 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: and now heal. 689 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 2: You know, back when you started last time we talked, 690 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,240 Speaker 2: you know, social media wasn't even near what it is now, 691 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 2: and especially in this rise of medical influencers, health influencers, 692 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 2: mindfulness influencers, all of it is like huge right now. 693 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 2: But just as a whole, you know, what's your feeling 694 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 2: of this sort of influencer medical tape? 695 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 1: Look, I mean, I know that people, a lot of people. 696 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: There's probably some good people out there. They got the 697 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: heart in it, but it's sad because it's a lot 698 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: of noise and in the end it's still it still 699 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: doesn't like get to the real root cause. So if 700 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: you're I look at it this way. This is how 701 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 1: I always look at it. If I ever got sick, 702 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: like me, myself got sick, right and I just didn't 703 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: know the information, and I was just like somebody else 704 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: out there, just so anybody out there, and I was 705 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: like them. And I woke up one morning and I 706 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: was like oh shit, my life is over now. I 707 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: can't function, I can't work. I'm like, you know, my 708 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: relationship is going down down the tubes because I just 709 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: can't even like I'm going to doctor after doctor. I'm 710 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: losing everything, like I'm suffering and mentally, emotional, physically, you know, 711 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: and all that. Let me go now into the health 712 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 1: movement and take a look, you know what I mean. 713 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: Let me go, Let me go look at all the 714 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: different podcasts, let me go look at the information out there. 715 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: I'd be fucked. I would be totally totally like I 716 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 1: would be. It would be so sad because you'd get tidbits, 717 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: you get bits and pieces of the good stuff, like 718 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: wait a minute, wait, metals might be behind my adhd oh, 719 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: scratch my head. What do I do now? Then you 720 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 1: end up doing something stupid and you get sicker. You know, 721 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: you don't fix the problem. Or I'd be like, wait 722 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 1: a minute, I might have a pathogen. Oh, let me 723 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 1: follow this person who says it's a parasite. It's not 724 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: a parasite. But I would be totally screwed. I would 725 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 1: be like it would be back to that. It would 726 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: be like where do I go? Let me go buy 727 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 1: these programs. Let me spend five thousand dollars on these programs. 728 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 1: Let me go see if I can do this detox. 729 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: And it is madness out there for somebody who's really sick. Madness, 730 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: and it's so sad, And the trends constantly get recycled 731 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: over and over again, and it's back to that again. Yeah, 732 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: And because everybody's also trying to make a buck in 733 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 1: the healing movement, all turn into movement. They're all trying 734 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: to make money, so they're just recycling the same old 735 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: shit and the same old trends that never worked to 736 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: start with. I would be so if I was sick 737 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: and suffering, if I woke up where I was like, okay, 738 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: now I know after my tenth doctor, Now I know 739 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: after my twentieth blood draw, where they're pulling blood from 740 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: me and they're giving me every microbiome you know treatment, 741 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: I can possibly be giving me every cebo treatment they're 742 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,439 Speaker 1: telling me it's this and there that. After being sick 743 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: long enough, if I went just like out there and 744 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,439 Speaker 1: I was like, there's got to be an answer out there, 745 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: I would be totally screwed. And that's what's happening with 746 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: the chronicle. All they're still in a place where it's 747 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 1: gonna be like good luck. 748 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 2: That's how sad it is. 749 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: Okay, sure, now it's like no, you know, no processed foods. 750 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: Some may get off of processed food some may get 751 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: off junk foods. If you're somebody that's you know, in 752 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: that realm where you're not that sick, and you can 753 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: get off of processed foods and you can get a 754 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: little bit better, good, good good. Somebody though with real 755 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,280 Speaker 1: chronic illness, like you got neurological problems, you can't function. 756 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: You're now in the category where you're getting thrown into 757 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: the multiple scrossis machine or whatever the machine is, the 758 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: Lime disease machine, whatever it is. It's like good luck 759 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: out there. It's so hard. And that's that's how I 760 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: look at it. 761 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 2: How do you feel about like, uh, you know, like 762 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 2: the peptides, this wave of like peptides are hot right now? 763 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: You know, stupid, it's stupid. 764 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 2: You're not into that. 765 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 1: It's actually stupid. 766 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 2: Why I don't take them? I'm just I'm curious. 767 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 1: If you're somebody that's bedridden with chronic illness, you're on 768 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,240 Speaker 1: Mattress Island, you're just you're on Mattress Island. You've done everything. 769 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 1: You're on Mattress Island. You've been to so many doctors, 770 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: you've tried everything. You think peptides are going to fix you. 771 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 2: No, but what if you're not I'm saying, if you're 772 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 2: not sick, No, I know you're just trying to I'm 773 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 2: saying just generally if you're if you're trying to use 774 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,879 Speaker 2: them as sort of a supplement for a better life, 775 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 2: for inflammation, for you know, whatever it is. There's thousands 776 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 2: of peptides. 777 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: If you're not sick and you want to use them 778 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: for like longevity, Like you're being told this is going 779 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 1: to give you longevity, whatever it is. Yeah, sure you 780 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,280 Speaker 1: can take them. Are they going to give you longevity? 781 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: No one's going to know. But you're somebody who's sick. 782 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: You're not going to see anything change, right, You're not 783 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: gonna see anything change with creatine. You're not gonna see 784 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 1: anything change with peptides. You're not gonna you know, you're 785 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 1: not gonna short change. You know, aminos. You're not going 786 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,399 Speaker 1: to see anything change with any kind of thing like that. 787 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 1: Because no one's saying. No, one's saying, dude, you got 788 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: epstein bar, you got shingles. You've got herpie simplex one. 789 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: You got cyitemegna virus, probably got HPV somewhere deep down inside. 790 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: You got you know, mercury all in your brain. You 791 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: got a combination of all that. Your liver's totally toxic, 792 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: your drenals are burned out. Your stomach, you know, your low, 793 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 1: low hydrochloric acid in your stomach. You can't break down proteins. 794 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,760 Speaker 1: You're sick, dude, you're sick. You throw peptides at somebody, 795 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 1: You throw creatine, you throw chila treaty, you throw peoral powder, 796 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,919 Speaker 1: you throw collagen, you throw claustrum, and they're not getting better. See, 797 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 1: those are all biohack trends. The biohack trends are for 798 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 1: people who aren't sick. And you take somebody who's just 799 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: on the edge of getting not well. No matter what 800 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 1: they're doing, they're just gonna keep on waifing back and forth. Oh, 801 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: I think the peptidees helping. Oh, I think the creatine's helping. 802 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: Oh wait a minute, I think the collagen in the 803 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: clostrums is helping. I think the pearl powder is helping. 804 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: With my skin, I think this is changing. But the 805 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: minute you get that, the scale is tipped and now 806 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 1: you're a sick person. You'll drown in that stuff. Charcoal, 807 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: you know, collagen, clastrum, peptides, you know, creatine, weave, protein powder, 808 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: sodium bicarbonate, you know, you'll nutritional least, You'll just drown 809 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: in all of that. 810 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 2: Yea. 811 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: You know. The one thing that I could say, you know, 812 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,919 Speaker 1: one thing recently, I was like, you know, I'm proud 813 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: of medical medium information for saving so many lives, but 814 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 1: I'm proud of also some of the things that we 815 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,479 Speaker 1: have completely conquered, like the fruit fear. For the most part, 816 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: Medical medium information conquered that. That's why fruit is not 817 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: shunned now for anybody in the health movement. The other 818 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: thing is fish oil. How much do you hear about 819 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 1: fish oil now? 820 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 821 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: Do you hear a ton? Oh? Yeah, Like you know, 822 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,720 Speaker 1: like it's it's less on the fish oil. Yeah, Mega 823 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: threes and fish oil and all that krill oil. It 824 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: used to be like exploding on the scene of the 825 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: health trends, like it was all fish oil. 826 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 2: I remember, like back in the day, it was all 827 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:29,760 Speaker 2: about fish oil. 828 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: And yeah, exactly, But you don't hear it every second. 829 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 2: Now you're hearing it's different. Creatine is like the new shit. 830 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 2: I mean, even though creatine has been around forever, but 831 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 2: everyone's taking creatine. 832 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 1: But you hear that though it's been around forever. Yeah, 833 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: And that's the thing. Everybody who was sick with chronic 834 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 1: sickness and chronic illness many years ago, they took creatine. 835 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: It never got them better. They took creatine, they took 836 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: fish oil, they took fulvic acid, fullvic minerals, they took 837 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: beta glucans, they took like you can just go down 838 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 1: the list of all the biohack shit. And now we're 839 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 1: back in the recycled trends. Now we're back in the 840 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: colostrum thing and everything we're going. We're going now where 841 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 1: they recycle it. Classroom. Never got any body better who's 842 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: chronically sick twenty years ago, and now it's all back. 843 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 1: Die tamacious earth particles that hurt people years ago, now 844 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 1: they're bringing it back. It's insane how it works. Then 845 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,720 Speaker 1: you got the ionizer water machines that upline ionizer water machines. 846 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: They hurt people, but they bring them back. They don't 847 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: get anybody better. All those ionizer water machines ended up 848 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 1: in everybody's closets back twenty years ago. It's a money game. 849 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 1: It's all about money, advertising, promotional campaigns, money advertising. Get 850 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: back on a trend again. Creat team's been around, but 851 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 1: bring it back in, make it look like it's going 852 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 1: to fix people. And then what you'll have is a 853 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 1: bunch of people who aren't sick. They'll be taking it 854 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 1: thinking that it's helping their game, it's getting them back 855 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,359 Speaker 1: on their game. But if they ever got sick, if 856 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 1: that person who's not sick now who takes all this stuff, 857 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 1: if they ever got sick, they may and they will 858 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 1: because face it, no matter what they're going to everybody 859 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: is how do you think we all die in the end? 860 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: Natural causes? As you know, No, no, it's not like that. 861 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: And so whoever is on that thing where they're on 862 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: the clostrum bandwagon, now they're on the probiotic band wagon. 863 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: Then they're on the you know, they're on the creatine, 864 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 1: then they're on the peptides, if they ever get sick, 865 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna be like, holy crap, this isn't helping me, 866 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: this isn't saving me. Let me go to another doctor, 867 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,840 Speaker 1: and then this doctor's going to be like, you got mold, 868 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,439 Speaker 1: that's the problem. And now they're gonna be like mold, mold, mold, mold, mold, 869 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: and ain't gonna be peptides and creatine saving them. Mold, mold, mold. 870 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 1: You've got lime disease now, and it isn't gonna be 871 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: peptides in creatine and colostrum helping them. It's it's it's 872 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 1: a swarm of just noise, and people get easily tricked. 873 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 2: Well, it's almost like you have to It's like what 874 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,240 Speaker 2: you're saying, you have to clean out your body before 875 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:59,439 Speaker 2: those supplements are before those colostrums, as peptides will even 876 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 2: have an efect. 877 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 1: Exactly if they give you any effect at all, if 878 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: they give you any classroom doesn't give anybody any effect. 879 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: But if you get any if you get any effect 880 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: at all from any of that stuff, you know, you 881 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: got to be probably healthy enough, strong enough not really 882 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,800 Speaker 1: have an illness, and then maybe it can offer you something. 883 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 1: Maybe you know, but you'll never know because you weren't 884 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 1: sick to begin with. So it's really tricky like that. 885 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: Everyone forgets every five years. Every five years, everybody forgets, 886 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,320 Speaker 1: so the movement. Every new generations come. New generations aren't 887 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,439 Speaker 1: just fifteen years later anymore. New generations are every five 888 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: years now. For some reason, it's like this every five 889 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,919 Speaker 1: year thing, and everybody gets tricked easily to thinking, well, 890 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,399 Speaker 1: they need to be on clostrom again, and they need 891 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 1: to be on shillojet again, and they need to be 892 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: on you know, some kind of caffeine, some kind of 893 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 1: matcha tea. Again, green tea doesn't fix anybody. If you've 894 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,760 Speaker 1: got chronic sickness and green tea, you're just gonna get sicker. 895 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 1: The caffeine's gonna make you sicker when you're chronically all. 896 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 1: But if you're somebody that drinks coffee every day, you're 897 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 1: not sick yet in your life, and you can handle 898 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: the caffeine and stuff. You can drink green tea. 899 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,399 Speaker 2: How do you know? How do you know if you're 900 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 2: chronically ill? Meaning do you have to have symptoms every 901 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,399 Speaker 2: single day and wake up feeling like total dog shit? 902 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,399 Speaker 2: Or can you just be living your life and you're 903 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 2: kind of living a malaise or you're a little like 904 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 2: I mean, how do you know? I mean, the degrees 905 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 2: of chronic illness. 906 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 1: There's there's degrees. There's the not so sick people. They 907 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 1: got a little bloating, yeah, and then maybe they get 908 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,359 Speaker 1: a little sunny sidis. Once in a while, they get 909 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,280 Speaker 1: a little acne that comes and goes. You know, they're 910 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 1: not so sick crowd, right, they can play around, try creatine, 911 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 1: and then they can try peptides, and then they can 912 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 1: try closstroum. Then they can try pearl powder, and then 913 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: they can try charcoal, they can try whatever. You know, 914 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: you get those people they're not so sick, and they're 915 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: kind of wafing around. 916 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:50,720 Speaker 2: Back and forth. 917 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: They get a lot of cheat days. They do a 918 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: lot of cheat meals all the time. They're like, you know, 919 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 1: eating pizza at some kind of like you know, high 920 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 1: end pizza restaurant. Then the next day they're they're fasting 921 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 1: for the whole day and they're just on caffeine basically 922 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 1: all day or something like that. Then you know, then 923 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 1: they're eating a salad for dinner. Then the next day 924 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: they're eating something else that's not so great, whatever it is. 925 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 1: They're they're kind of like, they get a little acme, 926 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 1: they get a little bloating, they get a little foggy, 927 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: so they get a little bit of anxiety. They're the 928 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,359 Speaker 1: not so sick crew. I'm not saying those things are 929 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: like no big deal anybody with any symptom, I deeply, deeply. 930 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 2: Like, no, you're like describing me. I think I'm in that. 931 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 2: I'm in that pot right there. 932 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: You're in that pot right there. 933 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right in kind of there, like I feel good, 934 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 2: but can a little anxiety, little, this little dank again, 935 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,800 Speaker 2: a little foggy. You know, I'm in that sort of zone. 936 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 2: It's impossible. I was talking to Aaron and my wife. 937 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 2: I was talking about of course I know, and I 938 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 2: was like, does anyone wake up every single morning and 939 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 2: just feel fucking amazing? Like every morning and throughout the 940 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,239 Speaker 2: day They're like, I just feel incredible, like zippity do 941 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 2: dae with my life. I everyone must have pains and 942 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 2: aches or days where they're off or you know what 943 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 2: I mean. 944 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 1: You know, there's a there's a big crowd that if 945 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 1: you take their caffeine away, they're going to start feeling 946 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 1: something's wrong. Yeah, yeah, they're a caffeine is is keeping 947 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 1: them on point, but they have problems in a little 948 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: bit of adrenal fatigue or they're not all clear in 949 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 1: the head, their neurotransmitters aren't so great, and they're on 950 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 1: caffeine and it's hiding the symptoms. There's that crowd, but 951 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,720 Speaker 1: there's yeah, there's not a lot of people that feel 952 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,839 Speaker 1: fantastic every single day and every single morning. We're kind 953 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 1: of we've left that port a long time ago. But 954 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 1: the not so sick crowd can still function. They can 955 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 1: go hop on a treadmill, they can still run on 956 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 1: a treadmill. They can go do some workouts. You know, 957 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: they got little problems here and there. They got to 958 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 1: see their practitioners, they got to see their functional medicine 959 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 1: doctors or whoever they're saying. But then there's the sick crowd. 960 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 1: You know, sick crowd is oh shit, I'm fucking sick. 961 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:03,800 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean so your book you made an amendment, 962 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 2: right you did? You did you sort of? 963 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,879 Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh yeah, no I didn't expand yeah it's expansion right, 964 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 1: So been expanded right there? 965 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,879 Speaker 2: Life Changing Foods Expanded Edition. What are we expanding this? 966 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 1: Oh man? Just all new recipes, all new recipe photos, 967 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 1: talking about the so many different poisons and toxins that 968 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: are actually you know, giving people a less quality of 969 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 1: life that are out there, everything from chemtrails to everything 970 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 1: out of the sun, thirty new foods, you know, wild foods, herbs, 971 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,399 Speaker 1: leaking greens, all of that. I mean, it's just it's 972 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 1: packed just so much information. Infertility information, fertility problems. You know. 973 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 1: It's a resource book. It's this book that you could 974 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 1: just have for a lifetime, you know, in the house. 975 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 1: And this book here, millions of copies of this book 976 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 1: allready sold, the original one back years ago, but this 977 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,280 Speaker 1: is the new edition expanded. It's like almost six hundred pages. 978 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 1: It's it's a book. And this is just my manuscript 979 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 1: right here coming out. 980 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:13,879 Speaker 2: By the way, I was thinking that would be cool 981 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 2: to have a book like like that. 982 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 1: It's already gonna be one big bible have in their 983 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,920 Speaker 1: kitchen in the whole bed. And you got a big 984 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 1: old index in there. You can look up your symptoms 985 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,879 Speaker 1: conditions and it talks about how like food can help 986 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 1: your symptoms and conditions, like which foods can help with 987 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 1: their symptoms and conditions, and then the spiritual benefits of 988 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 1: the food. 989 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 2: The motion I want it. You got to send that 990 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 2: to me. Well, it's a great book, yeah, send me, 991 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 2: send me a copy, dude, for sure, I would love 992 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,720 Speaker 2: I would love to read that extended version, no doubt, 993 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,879 Speaker 2: for sure, for sure. Yeah, well, dude, this has been fun. Man, 994 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 2: I could talk to you forever. Flu flew by. Where 995 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 2: are you right now? 996 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: Are you gone? 997 00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:57,359 Speaker 2: Where do you live? 998 00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm in La right now, in La. 999 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we still have my number. Hit me up. 1000 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you got it, you got it. 1001 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,760 Speaker 2: One more question. Do you ever get sick? 1002 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:11,839 Speaker 1: Uh? Well, I could run myself. I could run myself down. Yeah. 1003 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,919 Speaker 2: Or you could catch a cold I mean or no, 1004 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 2: I mean. 1005 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,360 Speaker 1: I could catch a cold if I'm not you know, 1006 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 1: getting a few hours of sleep. But no, no, no, 1007 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sick. I don't get sick and I haven't 1008 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:24,840 Speaker 1: gotten sick. 1009 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah. 1010 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 1: But you know, like just saying that, you. 1011 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 2: Know, you're just saying that. 1012 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 1: No, no, man, No I don't have any I don't 1013 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,320 Speaker 1: have any medical problems and you know, conditions and symptoms 1014 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 1: and stuff. No, I'm solid. But you know, at the 1015 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 1: same time, I'm human and you know I work hard 1016 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 1: and you got to be careful. 1017 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah all right, brother, great talking to you. Aunt. 1018 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 1: Hey man, I love you brother. 1019 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, you hit me up. Be good, okay, be good, 1020 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 2: all right, I'll catch yeah, catch right, all right? Right, Uh, 1021 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 2: there is Anthony William Yeah, he was in my podcast 1022 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 2: with Kate. We did it. We did him a long 1023 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,840 Speaker 2: long time ago. As I said, the thing about Anthony 1024 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 2: as well is like he's obviously very passionate about this. 1025 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 2: It's been proven for himself and for the people who 1026 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 2: have followed his protocols, and you know, hey, man, if 1027 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 2: it works for you, it works for you. All that 1028 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:33,720 Speaker 2: being said, you know, the disclaimer is is that he's 1029 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:38,360 Speaker 2: not a doctor obviously, So you know what he's saying 1030 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 2: is coming from his experience, from the testimonials that he 1031 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 2: has had, and you know, for all of the good 1032 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 2: that he's done, so you know that it's it's that's 1033 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,440 Speaker 2: his stuff. So don't take this as gospel. There's no 1034 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 2: there's nothing medical here. So don't sue me, you know 1035 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,400 Speaker 2: what I mean, Don't sue me. Don't sue aunt. Listen 1036 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 2: to it. Take what you want, and then throw away 1037 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 2: what you don't want. I don't care. Just don't fucking 1038 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 2: sue me. I'm gonna get that book. Maybe I can 1039 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,799 Speaker 2: cure my heart burn. Yeah, maybe just stop drinking? How 1040 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:25,840 Speaker 2: about that? Oliver? All right, everyone, stay healthy, love you 1041 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 2: ow