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Speaker 1: now going to talk to Alex Stone from ABC News because,

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Speaker 1: according to reporting originally with The New York Times, Nick

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Speaker 1: Reiner was in a mental health conservatorship back in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: We couldn't take care of himself, but somehow he got out,

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Speaker 1: and you know, the rest ends up murdering Rob and

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Speaker 1: Michelle Reiner's parents. Let's talk to Alex and see what

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Speaker 1: this story is. Alex, Hey there, John, Yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: a pretty big development in the argument that it seemed

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Speaker 1: like Alan Jackson was going to make before the high

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Speaker 1: profile attorney backed out of the case. And now we'll

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Speaker 1: see what the public defender does. But toward his history

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Speaker 1: of mental health, and the possible not guilty by reason

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Speaker 1: he is arraigned. He's had two other arraignment dates that

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Speaker 1: have been now bumped up to next month. So what

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Speaker 1: we know, and as you mentioned, New York Times was

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Speaker 1: the one who uncovered this, that it was in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty and it ended in twenty twenty one. But this

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Speaker 1: means this conservatorship, that a judge ruled that Nick Reiner

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Speaker 1: was unable to care for himself, that he could be

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Speaker 1: put on a psychiatric hold against his will, and that

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Speaker 1: his affairs would be handled by others. And it seems

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Speaker 1: like a conservator in this case an attorney essentially, But

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Speaker 1: we don't know this is now going to mean for

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Speaker 1: at his arraignment, and if they will go not guilty

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Speaker 1: by reason of nay sanity, and as we've said before,

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Speaker 1: they could go just not guilty and then change it

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Speaker 1: they would not be able to prove it. But we

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Speaker 1: talked to David Glass Family Law attorney, he's a former psychologist.

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Speaker 1: He says that this new information could help Nick Reiner

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Speaker 1: not go to prison and it could be very very big.

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Speaker 2: This evidence that Nick Reiner was in a LPs conservatorship

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Speaker 2: within the last five years could help his case. It's

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Speaker 2: assumed he's going to take a mental health defense not

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Speaker 2: guilty by reason of insanity in order to win and

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Speaker 2: that he suffers from a severe mental illness and at

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Speaker 1: So this definitely leads into the severe mental illness by

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Speaker 1: He was saying, under the laws of California, not guilty.

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Speaker 1: even the legal drugs could have shaken up his chemicals,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you about the disorders he'd been diagnosed with,

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Speaker 1: It's very difficult to put anybody away in this stupid state,

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Speaker 1: Nick Reiner was in a mental health conservatorship back in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty that his parents put him into. Rob and

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Speaker 1: Michelle Reiner, and this is what happens when you let

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Speaker 1: mental health facility. They could end up killing you. And

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Speaker 1: he stabbed them to death earlier this year, and well,

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Speaker 1: actually it was last year at this time, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: out now through the New York Times. He was diagnosed

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Speaker 1: at different times with schizophrenia and schizo effective disorder, and

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Speaker 1: the medication was working, but side effects let him switch

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Speaker 1: And sometimes that is a trial and error situation when

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Speaker 1: you're prescribing medication for people's severe mental health disorders. Some

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Speaker 1: spinning a Roulette wheel because everybody's brain chemistry is wildly different.

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Speaker 1: And he also had his own drug addiction problems throughout

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Speaker 1: that means a judge decided he had a grave disability,

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Speaker 1: You have to be pretty severe to be placed on

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Speaker 1: Many of them have schizophrenia, schitzo, effective effective disorder, bipolar disorder,

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Speaker 1: and you see those schizophrenics who are arguing with invisible

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Speaker 1: hard to accept? Because you know, the the the alternative,

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Speaker 1: Tyler Robinson, the accused killer of Charlie Kirk, the some nuts.

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Speaker 1: two hundred of them, and they have their they have

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Speaker 1: their weapons. So Rossoli and his partner jumped in a

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Speaker 1: from like his shoulder blades went downwards near his uh,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't want to live.

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Speaker 1: I would die of shock. He says. We gave them bananas,

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Speaker 1: though they didn't know each other's language. They didn't like

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Speaker 1: the bananas. Maybe it was bad bananas, you know, brown,

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Speaker 1: like bananas will clear me out of a room faster

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Speaker 1: than anything. I know. I would rather get an arrow

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Speaker 1: I know? Uh? Anyway, the guy somehow lived. I guess

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Speaker 1: I missed all the vital organs. Did he pull it

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Speaker 1: think you could do that. Could you do that for

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Speaker 1: somebody pull an arrow out of his back? Yeah? Well

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Speaker 1: I guess you. I don't know if I would be

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Speaker 1: you don't want me having to provide emergency aid because

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Speaker 1: odds are you're dead. That was a lovely story. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much, Thank you sharing all right? I find

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Speaker 1: these and I think you're you right away? Are we

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Speaker 1: come back? Karen Bass? Oh, she makes a public statement.

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Speaker 1: It must be an Ice ray. That's the only thing

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Speaker 1: she's interested in. We'll play you that coming up, and

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom has softened his criticism of Ice. All that

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Speaker 1: in the next segment. Two rounds of The Moist Line,

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