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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast is still waiting for an

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Speaker 1: update on the Portman River Hall. Welcome back to another

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Speaker 1: edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is

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Speaker 1: Dan Hands and I'm joining the room filled with some heroes.

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Speaker 1: Chris Wesley to my left, Greg Roosevelt to my right.

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Speaker 1: What is up? Boys? Mark Sessler back to boomerang. I

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Speaker 1: able to make it today, but he will be chiming

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Speaker 1: in to our Twitter show via Twitter. So if people

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Speaker 1: Busy day, UH, Merry Christmas in the in the rear view.

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Speaker 1: That was a Merry Christmas, West. Did you get what

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Speaker 1: you wanted for Christmas? I sure did, had great time.

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Speaker 1: What did you want you? I wanted people to come

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Speaker 1: to my house for Christmas Day and they did. It

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Speaker 1: was pretty It was pretty great. I went over there

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Speaker 1: late afternoon on Christmas because my family's in Japan right now.

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Speaker 1: First we did fake We did our own family Christmas

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Speaker 1: but it was quite delightful just being around UH friends

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Speaker 1: and getting a little loose on Christmas. Did you do

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Speaker 1: any Christmas related activity? Was there any mistletoe or egg

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Speaker 1: nog or anything like that? Well, it's Christmas related to

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Speaker 1: like smoke meats and drink alcohol. Right, watch the little

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Speaker 1: there was. There was Christmas related. It was like a

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Speaker 1: A celebrity. Well, we would open our doors to anybody

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Speaker 1: without a family. So right, you're almost like an orphanage

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Speaker 1: of l a Great West. Um. So much to get

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Speaker 1: to today because Week seventeen is upon us and because

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Speaker 1: of that, no Thursday games, no Saturday games, no Money

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Speaker 1: so much uh to talk about, so many games, Greg,

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Speaker 1: and I know you're excited. I like Week seventeen. It's

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Speaker 1: a weird It's always a strange week. It's impossible to predict.

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Speaker 1: There's like motivational problems, but usually there's a few surprises.

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Speaker 1: Like we went into a Week seventeen last year. No

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Speaker 1: but they didn't. That always seems to happen in weeks.

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Speaker 1: Did you say motivational problems? Have you ever heard a

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Speaker 1: Chris Spielman monologue? Every game counts to these men, They

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Speaker 1: and you know, so that's stuff like that. You don't

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Speaker 1: We're just gonna go through the one o'clocks, then the

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Speaker 1: an ending UH disappointing seasons. UH. West will start with

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Speaker 1: I lose traffic. It's tough to be a Lions fan.

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Speaker 1: I remember you saying in this studio that you would

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Speaker 1: and two. They have everything that they can lock up

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Speaker 1: locked up in the NFC. They are the NFC South champions.

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Speaker 1: They have clinched the number one seed, which is home

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Speaker 1: field throughout the NFC playoffs. Uh and they host the

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, who are playing for nothing. Cam Newton is

432
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Speaker 1: done for the year with that shoulder injury. Uh So

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Speaker 1: the only question here, really, West is how long will

434
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Speaker 1: Sean Payton play his star players, if at all. I

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Speaker 1: expect to see Teddy Bridgewater for the majority, if not all,

436
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Speaker 1: of this game. I believe the year they won the

437
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 1: Super Bowl there was a similar scenario and Breeze sat

438
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Speaker 1: the bench in Week seven was in active. Yeah, yeah,

439
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Speaker 1: I think you'll see Teddy Bridgewater, which is good for

440
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Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater because he's going to be a free agent

441
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Speaker 1: and maybe he shows enough or maybe the marriage is

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Speaker 1: good enough that they convinced him to stay for another year.

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Speaker 1: As Breeze is backup. Who knows, he's only twenty six.

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Speaker 1: This is a big game for his value. I think

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Speaker 1: one game can matter a lot, especially after he put

446
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Speaker 1: up He put up enough good film in the preseason

447
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Speaker 1: to the point where the Saints gave up a third

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Speaker 1: round pick. You know, they got a six back to

449
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Speaker 1: go get him. So this is huge I think for

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Speaker 1: his free agency value because if he did light it

451
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Speaker 1: up and moved well and look great, I mean that's

452
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Speaker 1: just team teams are stupid, like we're stupid like that.

453
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Speaker 1: One game will make such a huge difference in his value.

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Speaker 1: And it's a weird situation where for once there's more

455
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Speaker 1: supply ivan demand, there's not that many teams gonna be

456
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Speaker 1: looking for quarterbacks. So it's gonna be competitive between him

457
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Speaker 1: and Tannehill and Flacco and who knows, maybe Eli or

458
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Speaker 1: case Keenum and that that would open up some spots,

459
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Speaker 1: but yeah, there's there's not that many available. If he

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Speaker 1: if he looks healthy on Sunday, because I agree with

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Speaker 1: West and everyone else that he's gonna play a ton

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Speaker 1: on Sunday if he moves well, makes a couple of plays. Um,

463
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Speaker 1: why why after missing essentially the last three years now

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Speaker 1: he hasn't been active and on the field as a competitor.

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Speaker 1: Why didn't you think that he's gonna want to go

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Speaker 1: to go find a job unless Drew Brees retires. Because

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Speaker 1: even if Drew Brees like, hey, I'm gonna stay one

468
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Speaker 1: more year and then you can take over, So he's

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Speaker 1: gonna want to be in Mothballs for four straight years. Essentially,

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Speaker 1: I think there's no chance he would stay as a

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Speaker 1: backup unless he just doesn't have uh starting offer. I

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Speaker 1: think that's the only way. Is that that if he

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Speaker 1: doesn't inspire, that would surprise me. If he didn't have

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Speaker 1: it all, if enough, if he just didn't get enough interest.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm with you, he's missed three Street seasons now

476
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Speaker 1: and Drew Brees a Hall of Famer playing at an

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Speaker 1: m v P level. It's just tough. The Saints just

478
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Speaker 1: can't offer. It's more it's partly a money thing, like

479
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Speaker 1: how much can you even offer a backup quarterback? By

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Speaker 1: the way, Kyle Allen haven't mentioned the rookie I think

481
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Speaker 1: he's undrafted from American is starting this game for Carolina.

482
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Speaker 1: Played a few snaps last week in place of Taylor Heinek,

483
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Speaker 1: who's now out. He looked, okay, little Kyle Allen action

484
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Speaker 1: played like I know, but he came in and he

485
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Speaker 1: made a few throws. I was like American little Kyle Allen. Yeah,

486
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Speaker 1: that's where Mark went to school. Mark went to so

487
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Speaker 1: many squads. That's one of the one of the ones

488
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Speaker 1: Mark went to was American World be Free from American University.

489
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Speaker 1: That's that's what the generation once again, the generation gap

490
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Speaker 1: at Sween West and Danna and I. It's tough for

491
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Speaker 1: West Sun days like this when he doesn't have his

492
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Speaker 1: other golden girl next to him. We're talking about one

493
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Speaker 1: of the most well known basketball players in the seventies

494
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Speaker 1: and eighties world be I thought it was run our tests.

495
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: What did he changes that the world? Okay, see it's

496
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Speaker 1: confusing for some people. Any any thought before we moved

497
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Speaker 1: on real quick. Drew Brees in a battle with Patrick

498
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Speaker 1: Mahomes for m v P that he might because you know,

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Speaker 1: Drew behind the scenes is a little different than the

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Speaker 1: Drew that we all see is saying to Chanpagne, I'm

501
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Speaker 1: playing two quarters. I want to throw two to four touchdowns.

502
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Speaker 1: I thought about that, and maybe he wants to keep

503
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Speaker 1: his start trek going. But he actually was quoted this

504
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Speaker 1: week saying Teddy is gonna play and deserves to play,

505
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Speaker 1: you know, a significant amount. So if he's saying that,

506
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Speaker 1: but that's what he says, that's true. And then he

507
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Speaker 1: tells Peyton privately, you be the bad guy, you be

508
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Speaker 1: the grim Reaper, and say that, No, I'm gonna I'm

509
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Speaker 1: gonna start Drew. But that's what I want. I would

510
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Speaker 1: hope that leave it down to how he does against

511
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Speaker 1: the Panthers or how Mahomes does against the Readers. It's

512
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Speaker 1: stupid and it's also stupid everyone saying this week, and

513
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Speaker 1: I've seen this a lot, Oh, it's Mahomes and it's

514
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Speaker 1: not even close because to make a hot take like

515
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Speaker 1: you gotta make it like okay, saying Mahomes the MVP

516
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Speaker 1: is and and they're just like, it's not even to

517
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Speaker 1: compare us in between Mahomes. It was like, what are

518
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Speaker 1: you even talking about? It's not a comparison. Drew Brees

519
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: is playing unbelievable this year for the best team in

520
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Speaker 1: the league. The stats aren't that different, you know, it's

521
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Speaker 1: like it's it's comparable. It's comparable, not in terms of efficiency.

522
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Speaker 1: And there's the yards pretempt adjusted yards pretempt. I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying it's not that close, and if you watch the games,

524
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not that far apart if you watch

525
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: the games, I I take my homes too. It's just

526
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Speaker 1: like my homes staying they're not close as stupid. Drew

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Speaker 1: Brees has thirty two touchdowns. Ma Homes has thirty on

528
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Speaker 1: the road alone. Touchdowns is overrated though, Okay, then then

529
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Speaker 1: Marcus Mariotta is the worst quarterback in the league. I'm

530
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Speaker 1: not saying judge only on touch bands, but they're important,

531
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Speaker 1: but fifty thousand for the first place team in the conference,

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Speaker 1: that should be. It's more volume. So I give him

533
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Speaker 1: the edge just because he's had more volume. But to me,

534
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Speaker 1: in terms of plays, Drew Brees has play made a

535
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Speaker 1: lot of plays on his own and he hasn't made

536
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Speaker 1: as many misses or mistakes as Mahomes and that counts too,

537
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Speaker 1: So that give him my homes. Not yet laid an

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Speaker 1: egg in a game, Brees has laid several. Let us

539
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: move on an NFC East game with nothing riding on it,

540
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: similar to what's happening at the super Dome that the

541
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Speaker 1: Cowboys are the visitors, They're going to the Meadowlands to

542
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Speaker 1: play the Giants. The Cowboys can finish ten at six

543
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: or nine and seven, and it won't matter. They are

544
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Speaker 1: locked in as the NFC East champion and the number

545
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 1: four seed in the playoffs. The Giants playing for pride,

546
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: as they say. And Greg Um of note Odell Beckham Jr.

547
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: Is it looks like he's not playing in Week seventeen.

548
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 1: So after missing a quarter of his rookie season and

549
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Speaker 1: then most of his third season, He's now going to

550
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Speaker 1: miss a quarter of his fourth season. He has had

551
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: injury issues in his career and it's uh, it popped

552
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: up again this year. Yeah, it's a disappointment for them,

553
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 1: although they've had some good offensive performances without him, including

554
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: you know last week in Indianapolis. I gotta we gotta

555
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: give it up right now, Eli Manning, you proved us

556
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Speaker 1: all wrong. You know. On our Twitter show, Mark and

557
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: Dan separately predicted he would have been capsized and benched

558
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: well before Week seventeen, and then for the Sandwich Props

559
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,479
Speaker 1: before the season even started, I said he would not

560
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: be starting Week seventeen. So I'm gonna lose Sandwiches on that,

561
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: and uh, you always get you. We were wrong, Eli

562
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: did it. Congratulations, you are the Marvin Lewis of quarterbacks.

563
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: You find a way to keep your job and ruined

564
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 1: draft picks, and you play your best when it really

565
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, like when you're at home and week seventeen

566
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Speaker 1: and so as a present, I'm gonna give you a

567
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: little rainmaker on the old giants taking care of these cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, didn't think i'd give it up for Eli.

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Speaker 1: Eli's gonna be dropping dollar bills all over this backup

570
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: cowboys nonsense. I totally agree. And by the way, that

571
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: the whole Marvin Lewis comparison is cute, but it falls

572
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Speaker 1: apart because Marvin Lewis never won a playoff game. Eli's

573
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: got two rings. But that's it's fun. You're enjoying yourself.

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Speaker 1: Can I lock up the Giants? Would you? Would you

575
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Speaker 1: judge me if I locked up the Giants? I'll lock

576
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Speaker 1: up the giants. This is a perfect like Eli. Make

577
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Speaker 1: sure the gentleman and that everyone back in the front

578
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: office is like, oh yeah, we're locking in Eli for

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Speaker 1: another year. Maybe throw him a little uh Christmas bonus here,

580
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Speaker 1: your end bonus, because I think um he is gonna

581
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: come out, close out strong. I think Sae Kwon Barkley,

582
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Speaker 1: who's in a race now for offensive Rookie of the Year,

583
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Speaker 1: will close out with a monster game as well. Well.

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Speaker 1: Their favored significantly because no one quite believes Jason Garrett

585
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Speaker 1: that he's gonna play as starters. And that's you know

586
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Speaker 1: why I'm making Rain even as a as a heavy favorite,

587
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: because what is Jason Garrett's always gonna take sort of

588
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: the the less the less bold way out, and so

589
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: you just know that they're we're gonna be seeing there.

590
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: You know, Dak Prescott, that's a big drop off to

591
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: Mike White at quarterback, and you know, and then inevitably

592
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: when they lose to the Seahawks in the wild card round,

593
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: he will be fielding questions about why his team looks.

594
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: So that's that's the Cowboys. The rest their guys and

595
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: then not show up for the they see they didn't

596
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: seem as sharp as usual. Do you think of anything

597
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: to do? Well? I did what I did, and I

598
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: had to do it. It It was like, all right, didn't

599
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: they did the exact same thing, like swear up and

600
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: down that they weren't gonna see anyone like two years ago.

601
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: And then Zeke didn't play a single snap, right, that

602
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: was it. And I've seen Zack Martin's injured. Probably not

603
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: gonna play some offen. That's smart, I'm not saying. But

604
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: it's just a tricky spot. The NFL is you need

605
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: to be so like hyped up for every game, and

606
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: so once you're once, you know you're coming. Here's another

607
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: sneaky hot take. I don't think the Giants at home.

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Speaker 1: I would take him to win. Maybe if the Cowboys

609
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: were playing to win, like I think these are pretty

610
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: even teams. That's my hot take winning. I know you

611
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: think I'm down to the Cowboys. Here's here's what I want.

612
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: Win one game by more than two scores. Hasn't happened?

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Speaker 1: Do it good? That's what good teams do. They can

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00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: win a game that it doesn't come to anyone. I

615
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: thought good teams win close games. Yeah, you know what else?

616
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: They did win six out of seven and get no

617
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: respect from Greg Rosenthal. That's right. They beat the Saints.

618
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: They keep winning games and they get no respect from

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, even though they have two linebackers who are

620
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Speaker 1: basically critic Lee and Thomas Davis from five years love

621
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Speaker 1: their defense. Jalen Smith Jalen Smith and Layton vander ash

622
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: keep everything in front of the sticks. They're like border colligues,

623
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Speaker 1: just penning everyone in their defense. Is awesome. I mean,

624
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Speaker 1: one of my favorites and one of the best, but

625
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: I don't think you can win the way they're playing on.

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Speaker 1: That was weird. You know, they keep winning the way

627
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Speaker 1: they're playing off. I did think it was weird when

628
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Speaker 1: they they flew to New York for the game. They

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Speaker 1: at one point, once they got to cruising altitude, they

630
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: put a parachute on Shaun Lean threw him out of

631
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Speaker 1: the plane. That just seemed like, say, after all he'd done,

632
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: he's the new Romo. He got wally pipped by a

633
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: better player who's the heart and soul of the team.

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00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: Well he can he can enjoy getting seventy five snaps

635
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: in this game as they rest vander Smith. By the way,

636
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Speaker 1: greg Um, the Rainmaker's back, but a little running bit

637
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Speaker 1: one oh one lesson you got to weaponize it one

638
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: Mark's here because he's the one that gets mad about it.

639
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: It just feels like a missed opportunity. It just felt

640
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: like this game I was feeling, I was just feeling, uh,

641
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: some rain clouds over the meadowland Sunday, couldn't Ricky. I

642
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: know he Gregg told you privately to eliminate the drop

643
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: that features and singing, but you can't listen to him.

644
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: That's also now become part of the fun of it all.

645
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: How did you go back? I know, my Greg. I

646
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: didn't say eliminated. I said let's go back. Let's keep

647
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: that on the down loudly, and don't use the other

648
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: one anymore. I didn't say that. I said let's go

649
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: back to this one. Absolutely. I can't listen to that anymore.

650
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: The Falcons six and nine another disappointing teams, So many

651
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: disappointing teams. Being a sports fan is hard, ultimately because

652
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: it really is about disappointment. More often than not, only

653
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: one team is truly happy at the end, and for

654
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: most fan bases, all your hopes are just flushed away

655
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: by December. Isn't that sad? Though? It's true that only

656
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: one teams are going to go home right. I was

657
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: thinking about that this week, and we'll get to the Browns,

658
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: but like, if the Browns could win this week, it's

659
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: like that. It's very rare to to end the season

660
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: on a hyper high note, and they have a chance

661
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: to do that. Like when you when you finish the

662
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: season like the forty Niners did last year on like

663
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: a winning streak, Like that's almost better than losing in

664
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: some painful way in the first round of the playoffs.

665
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: That's fair, that's fair. Look how well it worked out

666
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: for the two thousand, right. I mean, I'm not saying

667
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: it means anything, but you feel great all offseason. I

668
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: don't even remember what. Oh that was the Jimmy g

669
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: streak to end the season. Oh, we had to talk

670
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,959
Speaker 1: about that so much. Just felt so good. You end

671
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: the season on up. Now you're feeling it makes your

672
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: off season so much nice. Basically, it was all discussion

673
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: about the Niners going thirteen and three, and then he

674
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: went on a date with the porn star and then

675
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: it was all really downhill after that. That was that

676
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: was the problem. The Falcons are six and nine playing

677
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: out the string. By the way, set according to our research,

678
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: notes six and nine a second in the NFC South.

679
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: So nice job, guys. Uh down there, uh there against

680
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: the five and ten Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who are in

681
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: last place in the NFC South. Anything less, I've got

682
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: some things First of all, you might see some of

683
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: Ryan Griffin at quarterback in this game. The Bucks are

684
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: talking him up. This coaching staff has liked him for

685
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: a long time and they want to give him a

686
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: chance if the opportunity presents itself, which hey, just bench

687
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston. There's the opportunity presenting itself. This another product

688
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 1: of QBU two Lane University. This quote was said by

689
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman in last week's game. This is my first

690
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: time watching Jamis Winston live. There's a lot of things

691
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: he's got to clean up if he's ever going to

692
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,239
Speaker 1: be the quarterback they thought they were getting. That's four

693
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: years into his career. Yeah, he his I think Aikman

694
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: is probably talking about his mechanics, which just talking about

695
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: I'm no expert, but it's they're pretty they look pretty wacky.

696
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: This comes after he was unaware of the play clock

697
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: winding down on fourth and one. From a lot of

698
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: that from him. Yeah, twenty four years old, though, you know,

699
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: still first round pick. Vita vea defensive tackle who I

700
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: criticized earlier in the year spending that high of a

701
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: draft pick on a defensive tackle, is playing better by

702
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: the week and has been dominating offensive lines. That's good.

703
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: That's good. Let's go the Falcons go just one, oh,

704
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: go ahead. I don't think there's anything on this offense

705
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: that has to be fixed except getting a healthy offensive

706
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: line and a healthy Davonte from a more talented offensive line.

707
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: It wasn't good when it was healthy. This offense only

708
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: needs an offensive line and a running back and they're fine.

709
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: Let's move on. The Cleveland Brown seven seven and one,

710
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: eliminated from contention, but a winning season the first uh

711
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: since I think they went tenants six randomly in two

712
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: thousand seven, I believe, and they didn't make the playoffs,

713
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: but it would be their first winning season since then.

714
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: I could be wrong on that, and I know what

715
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: Mark to litt Well, Mark's not gonna listen to this,

716
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna do some research while you guys talk

717
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: to make sure or that is correct. But anyway, they

718
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: travel to Baltimore to face the Ravens, and here it

719
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 1: is Greg a win and in proposition for Baltimore who

720
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: clinched the a f C North uh and knocked the

721
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: Steelers out of the playoffs with a win. That would

722
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: be delicious, but you know, would also be delicious the

723
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: Ravens and their former owner Art Model, who ripped Cleveland's

724
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: heart out and left Cleveland to go to Baltimore. What

725
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: if the new Browns wipe out the Ravens that break

726
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: their hearts in Week seventeen, just like the Bengals did

727
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: one year ago. It is and it's the game, And

728
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: I think I've been most excited for all year, maybe

729
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: because it's just been leading to this. And there are

730
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: two teams that are among the most fun in the

731
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: league to watch. Their two rookie quarterbacks who couldn't be

732
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: more different. And at this point, Baker Mayfield's playing about

733
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: as well as any quarterback in the league. He's so

734
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: confident it's almost outrageous. How the types of throws that

735
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: he just tries. I mean, he's like a star pitcher

736
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: that has every pitch and he knows when to put

737
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: in the heater and the touch pass, and he's not

738
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: afraid of the coverage. And how about that versus the

739
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: toughest defense in the league. To prepare for the best

740
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: secondary in the league. This is the ultimate test of

741
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: kind of where Baker Mayfield's at. I can't wait. I mean,

742
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: what more could we want from him? He handles pressure well,

743
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: he pulls the trigger on big plays, throws off different

744
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: platforms with accuracy and zip. He shows already a knack

745
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: for back shoulder throws. Um. I think he's legitimately a

746
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: top ten quarterback in the NFL right now. And I

747
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: think he's a better quarterback than Tom Brady right now.

748
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: I mean, the last few weeks, no doubt you left

749
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: that one thing was moxie for days right and got

750
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: that attitude that the whole city of Cleveland's built building around.

751
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: And he is going to be not not not a

752
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: star if he If he makes the Browns competitive in

753
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: a playoff team annually, and I think he will, this

754
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: guy is going to be I think one of the

755
00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: next great superstars across the professional sports spectrum in the

756
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: United States because I think he'll have everything working the position, uh,

757
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: the league, attitude people. Since when is boxy not an

758
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: attractive quality and a football player. I don't get this.

759
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: Well there, Well, some people get rubbed the wrong way.

760
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's the right way the wrong way,

761
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: but I'm saying he has all those qualities that is

762
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: going to attract advertisers and TV coverage and primetime games

763
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: this is the real deal. The Browns have hit on

764
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: something that is going to make their franchise relevant for

765
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: ten to fifteen years. Well, here here's Browns it is.

766
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: It's gonna be good for a long time. I think,

767
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: I really think they will, and I hope they get

768
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: the head coach high right here. Here's what he can

769
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: do West He said, what has he done is play

770
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: well on the road. You know, his last three games

771
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: on the road Pittsburgh, he struggled. That was a while ago.

772
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: Now Bengals forgot about that one. He had the Texans

773
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: where he had a couple of interceptions. Early certainly did

774
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 1: not play his best at Denver. And I would say

775
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: that the Browns in general are a young team who

776
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: have been much better in front of one of the

777
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: best home crowds in the league. And now you're going

778
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: to Baltimore to face, you know, such a great defense

779
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: and an offense that Greg Williams is gonna throw a

780
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: lot at Lamar Jackson. It just seems like a boom

781
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: He's a boomer Bus type of coach. Like, so, I

782
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: don't know he You could tell me they're gonna totally

783
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: shut down Lamar Jackson, or you could tell me the

784
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: Gusts Bus and Kenneth Dixon and Lamar is gonna run

785
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: for nothing would surprise me. Gus Edwards is good like this.

786
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: They always figure it out. They started the year with

787
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: Alex Collins as a starter. By the end of the year,

788
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: now they're good. They took was like that one game

789
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: where they featured Gus to realize he was much better

790
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 1: for this offense than Alex Collins, but Alc Collins could

791
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: do Gaelic dancing and then their touchdowns. I almost forgot

792
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: the Ravens. Uh, probably by sponsors. Baker's looked great, but

793
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: without facing a lot of defenses throwing a lot at him.

794
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: It's kind of been vanilla guy teams not getting pressure.

795
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen this Sunday. And as as much

796
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: as I love Baker and these Browns, I think this

797
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: Ravens team is a special and I'm going to lock

798
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 1: up the Ravens. I love that Greg. That's a guy.

799
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: It's like Ferris Bueller said, I'm just a regular guy

800
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: with nothing to lose. I feel pretty, I feel strong

801
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: about it. I don't think it's um I mean, of

802
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: course you could be wrong, but I just think they're better.

803
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: I think they are one of the best teams in

804
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: the NFL right now. Two things, I almost picked the

805
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: same lock. I ultimately decided to go in a different direction.

806
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: But this was in the this was a finalist, and

807
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: I just realized, that's actually Kevin Space, an American beauty.

808
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: I'm just a regular guy with nothing to lose, So

809
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: I'm equating you to Space. Ironic though, if you look

810
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: at you know a little bit to lose a recent output.

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00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: It Christmas Day freak show. And I did tell me that, yes,

812
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: it was the Starving Um and I did get that right.

813
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: The Browns when ten and six and two thousand and

814
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: seven didn't qualify for the playoffs. Uh but um yeah,

815
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: they went nine and seven and two thousand two. That

816
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: was their last playoff appearance. And one more note, if

817
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: they beat the Ravens money in Baltimore. How do you

818
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: how do you let Greg Williams go? I think he

819
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: kind of messages that. I think he probably stays. That's

820
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: why it's a tough decision because you probably don't think

821
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 1: Greg will question yeah, go ahead. I think you look

822
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: at the entirety of his career and say, I don't

823
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: trust this person to put the best message for for

824
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns going forward. All Right, that's what I

825
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: would be. The first guy that got the win in

826
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 1: twenty years, I understand. I think you looked towards the future.

827
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: I don't think it's why while Brown's fans want to

828
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: knock out the Ravens, if the if Baker played great,

829
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: but they lost like a close game that everyone could

830
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: feel good about and that you know, then they get

831
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: rid of Greg we maybe that's the best results. Well,

832
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: Freddy Kitchens will probably go to then, but maybe not.

833
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: All right, moving on, um Freddy Kitchens, the offensive coordinator

834
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Speaker 1: Jim Bob Cooter stayed he did without that one. Uh.

835
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Speaker 1: The Los Angeles Superchargers eleven and four, second place in

836
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Speaker 1: the a f C West, coming off a disappointing loss

837
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Speaker 1: to those Ravens, which the offense and Philip Rivers were

838
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: brought down to earth with a thud. But now they

839
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: get to go on the road to face a Broncos

840
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: team that is stumbling to the finish line under Vance

841
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: Joseph who will probably be fired less than twenty four

842
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: hours after this game concludes. So you wouldn't you would

843
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: imagine a bit of a funeral atmosphere in Denver, and

844
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: what is that the what is that? Steak West Chargers?

845
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: If they win and the Chiefs lose, they win the

846
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 1: a f C West and get the number one seeds,

847
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: So they are playing for something. Indeed, these teams will

848
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: all be playing for something in the a f C

849
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: West by the time the game start. I wonder what

850
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: they'll be playing for by the time the game's end.

851
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: I just can't. I can't. I can't believe Kansas City's

852
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: gonna lose at home to Oakland. So highly unlikely. So

853
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: if if the Chargers are watching that result and paying

854
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 1: attention to it, maybe by the quarter they rest people.

855
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: But then how much is too much a three score lead?

856
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: I guess that, you know. But if it's not like baseball,

857
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: you could leave the game and come back in, right,

858
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: But if it's twenty to ten in Chiefs or thirty

859
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: to twenty entering the fourth or you're gonna risk it,

860
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: I don't think you should, because because any chance you

861
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 1: have to advance another round and be a one seed,

862
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: you gotta take it. And the Bolts have their own

863
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: problems to clean up. And I know it's just one loss,

864
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: but their offensive line I think has been pretty sloppy

865
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 1: and pretty poor for the last two or three weeks,

866
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: and they could be looking at a rematch against the Ravens,

867
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: except it's in Baltimore, and that's kind of a worst

868
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: case scenario I think for the Chargers after this year.

869
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: It's sad that would be a real whimper to the

870
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: season if they ended by losing to the Ravens, and

871
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: sad fashion two of them they haven't you know they

872
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: I love the Chargers, but they haven't put together that

873
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: many complete games. It's these comebacks. It's okay, Bosa and

874
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: Ingram have a good game, but then the offense is

875
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: a little around, like let's let's put it all together

876
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: and let's get case Keenum out of them, and the

877
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: might be his last game there gave Rivers fits obviously

878
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: last week he was scrambling and or doing of Philip

879
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: Rivers impersonation of Scramble firing the ball into the turf.

880
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: Now you have Chubb and von Miller coming at the

881
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: edges at you this so it will be a real test.

882
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't on the road, and they're crazy, the fans

883
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: in Denver, so that's still gonna be sold out and

884
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: probably allowed place. I don't think this is like a

885
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: gimme for the Charges, especially uh, and I don't even

886
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: want to. I don't want to put that stink on

887
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: them because they've shown this season that this isn't the

888
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: old Chargers. But that would there would be a lot

889
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: of that wiped away if they couldn't find a way

890
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: to close out the season strong. I think they are

891
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: the old Chargers. I think they're the same team with

892
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: better luck and close games. They've won some big, big

893
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: beaten some good teams, so I'm not going to kill

894
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: him for one loss. But they're a little sloppy. I'm

895
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: not killing them at all. I think they were this

896
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: good last year. I get you eleven and four. I

897
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe some crazy they have a better kicker.

898
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 1: Now that's a big difference. Oakland's playing better. Let's get

899
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: to that game, right, do you want to get to

900
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: that game? Let's talk about it. The Oakland Raiders um

901
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: who another team that uh playing for nothing? But they

902
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: really did show some hot as they say in Greg's

903
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: hometown on Monday night, Christmas Eve, beating the Broncosen. They

904
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: travel to Arrowhead Now to face the Chiefs. Uh, Greg,

905
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: your thoughts. The Chiefs haven't had as many easy plays

906
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: or easy drives or layups for Patrick Mahomes the last

907
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: three or four weeks, So I don't know if it's

908
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of everything. It's it's not just

909
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: missing Kareem Hunt. You know, Damian Williams has played pretty

910
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: well in place of them, But certainly I don't think

911
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: I'm passing downs as good. It's not just Sammy Watkins.

912
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: It's not just the offensive line, which has had some injuries.

913
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: But it's the combination of that. The coaching is no

914
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: longer winning that much for the Chiefs because Mahomes had

915
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: some layups earlier in the year and now he still

916
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: is doing the highlight real plays, but there's not as

917
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: many easy plays. You would think he'd get plenty against

918
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: the Raiders who put up forty, but you're right they were.

919
00:44:55,560 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 1: They're playing the gruten Raiders are playing hard in December. Yeah,

920
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: I think you touched on it that it's not just

921
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: one thing. I think they do miss Sammy Watkins. I

922
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: think Eric Fisher is not playing well left tackle um

923
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: and I think Tyreek Hill playing through an injury is

924
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: not not quite as electric as a healthy Tyreek Hill didn't.

925
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: Did you guys watch that game, by the way, that

926
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve at all? It's lost to the world where

927
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: the or the It was the lowest rated Moneay and

928
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 1: football game of all time, so you were many. But

929
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: it was kind of a a beautiful scene there in

930
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: the black hole. I love those fans and they were

931
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: going wild. It was kind of a special night for them.

932
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: And Gruden knew it, and I respect the Raiders players.

933
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: It was almost like they knew it and they were

934
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: going all out from the first minute. And I recommend

935
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: any of our listeners watched the miked up which is

936
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: on Raiders dot com and probably on sound effects and

937
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: all that with Gruden. It is awesome. It's so much fun.

938
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: And it ends with Gruden like running around in the

939
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: black hole going Merry Christmas. Mary. It's like it's just

940
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: like it was this this kind of amazing. It was.

941
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 1: Marshaan Lynch was like trying to yeah, trying to picture

942
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: caught him trying to light his joint on the the

943
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: Al Davis Memorial fire that I think, oh yeah, I

944
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: think he would, yeah, probably, but I mean he's not

945
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: going to speak on it. So unless he haunts Marshall Lynch.

946
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 1: I mean, and I know this is all way off topic,

947
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: but hey, possible, Yeah, this is you know, our podcast,

948
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: and what else am I going to say? This? For

949
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 1: all the criticism that Monday Night Football got the broadcast

950
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: crew over the year, the most trenchant one came in

951
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: that game. They were not ready for that moment. That

952
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: was a cool it was a special time of that

953
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: this could be it for Oakland and the history and everything.

954
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: Those that crew wasn't ready to talk about that context.

955
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: They just and that goes beyond the guys they that

956
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: is the entire if you're saying, because he spent the

957
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: whole podcast talking about the shortcomings of John Gruden and

958
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: how it's been a disaster and missing missing what was

959
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: happening in front of them, which was, if nothing else,

960
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: a night all those Raiders fans are gonna remember interesting.

961
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: All right, Let's move on to the other team in

962
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: the area of San Francisco, forty Niners closing out YEP,

963
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: a disappointing season after a lot of hype, breathless hype

964
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: about Jimmy g and there're five straight wins and the

965
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: season last year, well Jimmy g blows out his knee. Uh.

966
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: Nick Mullins is coming and done a very nice job.

967
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: But still they're four and eleven, and and that is

968
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: their record. Is what they are. What their record says

969
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: they are is. Bill Parcels once said, they traveled to

970
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: Los Angeles to face the Rams. The Rams win this game,

971
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: and they clinch a number two by and that should

972
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: be all the motivation they need. Chris, Yeah, I heard

973
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: that the Rams had got their offense back on track,

974
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,479
Speaker 1: but until watching and I wasn't convinced. But they had

975
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: four long touchdown drives and another long field goal drive

976
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: in this game. Um C J. Anderson got really low,

977
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: churning his legs. Tiny strike zone for tackler tackler, there

978
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: was just no nowhere really to hit him. He started

979
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: running people over. I was impressed by what I saw

980
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: from him. And you could tell Sean McVeigh was really

981
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: concentrating on a balanced offense with a heavy running game.

982
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: I think that's their new m oh. He made a

983
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: drastic personnel decision before that game and gave Gerald Ever

984
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: his highest snap count of the year and basically played

985
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: two tight ends most of that game. Uh. From the

986
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: first snap. It wasn't just when they got the lead,

987
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: and they took Josh Reynolds off the field quite a

988
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: bit more. And I think that's that's playing to their

989
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 1: strengths with Girly, and I think the line is better

990
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: at run blocking. I mean, the right side of their

991
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: offensive line has really struggled lately to protect Golf and

992
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: so that's that's McVeigh kind of adjusting and we'll see

993
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 1: how it works. I don't think this is a gimme

994
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: game forty niners. Forty niners to me are a little

995
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: dangerous if you look. First of all, Todd Gurley didn't

996
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 1: practice on Wednesday. I don't know about his status today

997
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: Thursday as of taping, but UH, you would think they'll

998
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: they will be tempted again to maybe risk it and

999
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: try to give him another week Goff. But we'll see

1000
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: ahead of the playoffs. The other point I have on

1001
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: this is, yes, Jared Goff a lot of pub about

1002
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: how poorly he played in UH in recent weeks, but statistically,

1003
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: UM his passer rating is pedestrian like around nineties since

1004
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: Week four, So he kind of peaked that game. We

1005
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: were at that Thursday night game. UM, in terms of

1006
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: the one through four weeks, he was dominant, and I

1007
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: know he had that great game obviously against the Saints,

1008
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: but his numbers have not been nearly as consistent in

1009
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: terms of being an upper upper echelon guy since those

1010
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: first four weeks. I think he kept it going until

1011
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: the bye week. I hear what you're saying. You're right,

1012
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: he didn't. He did peek early because he was just

1013
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: off the chain, but he was still playing at a

1014
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: top seven or eight level, I would say, until they

1015
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 1: got to that by and then he came back struggling.

1016
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: Definitely played well last week. Uh, and so that's gonna

1017
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: make them feel a little bit better. I don't know,

1018
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,959
Speaker 1: I'm a little I think Rams fans should be worried

1019
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: about this. Do you think so? I don't know. The

1020
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: forty niners the last three weeks they've played, they got

1021
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: to take care of business. They they probably will. But

1022
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 1: they beat the Broncos, they beat the Seahawks, they played

1023
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: the Bears very even to the last whistle. I don't know.

1024
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: They do have a lot of injuries. They stink. They

1025
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: haven't stunked in December. They just haven't. They just haven't. Wait,

1026
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: didn't the forty three to sixteen lost to the Seahawks.

1027
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: Happen in December. Yeah, basically since that game. That was

1028
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: a weird game. They outgame the Seahawks even You're right

1029
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: that was that was a bad moment for them in Seattle.

1030
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: But in all their good performances have been at home,

1031
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: so maybe they'll stink. Let's move on the Chicago Bears

1032
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: eleven and four. There's a lot on the line in

1033
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: this game. So the Vikings UH their opponent UH this

1034
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: week at eight six and one, the Vikings clinch a

1035
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: wild card birth with a win the Bears if they

1036
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: win in the Rams do somehow stub their toe, they

1037
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: get the second seed and the and the buy. So

1038
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: a lot on the line here, Greg Rosendal, who do

1039
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: you trust? Mm hm trust here? I'm rooting for the

1040
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: old games. I'm glad we're not picking. Are we picking

1041
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: this game? This game because you don't have a pickwick

1042
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: it because you open the window. And now the window

1043
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: has been flung open. So I'll start with Matt Naggy

1044
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: talking about the playing as starters this week, and he

1045
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: seems resolute on that that they're definitely trying to win

1046
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: this game. And he's glad, he said, now, I don't

1047
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: have to think about it much because so much is

1048
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: on the line, but he did allow that they could

1049
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: be looking at the scoreboard and if the Rams are

1050
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: up big, then maybe he would call off the Dogs. Ultimately,

1051
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: you asked me, who do I trust. I trust the Bears,

1052
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: who are the same team every week, and uh, we

1053
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: know what we're gonna get out of them if if

1054
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: they're just playing to win, I trust the Bears. I

1055
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: trust the Vikings in this particular game, playing at home

1056
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: with a lot more to play for, with a defense

1057
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: that has been among the league's most stingy over the

1058
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: past two months, with an offense that is definitely shown

1059
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: improved it with uh Kevin Stefanski, who has to be

1060
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: ranked high and your handsome coach rankings by the way, Dan,

1061
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: I've been I've been tracking this. Yeah, not bad at all,

1062
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: not bad, solid seven and a half. And when I

1063
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: hear a teams say they're gonna be watching the other scoreboard,

1064
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 1: I know that's coming into the game with the right mindset,

1065
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: that that is a concern and that in putting up

1066
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 1: points on this Vikings defense right now would be challenging

1067
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: for the Bears. Regardless. Here here's what the Bears have

1068
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: done since the Trabinsky injury. The last three weeks since

1069
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: he came back, they've averaged three yards per game. It's

1070
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: pretty bad. They've averaged eighteen points per game. That's definitely bad.

1071
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: And they've had six turnovers. So they need to be

1072
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: more complimentary where they're not making mistakes that puts the

1073
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: defense in trouble and making it harder. And there's a

1074
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: lot of reasons for that. They haven't really They had

1075
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: one good running performance and then two pretty quiet ones.

1076
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: This Vikings defense kind of owes Mike Simmer. That's my theory.

1077
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: Let's heart that that they let him down last year.

1078
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: They're supposed if if any defense in the league supposed

1079
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: to be a two thousand, fourteen Seahawks, is that the

1080
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: right year, Like one of those defenses that carries carries

1081
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: your team. This is it. It's a veteran group. They've

1082
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: been together. It's basically Zimmer's entire run in Minnesota has

1083
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: been leading up to him having a defense like this

1084
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: the last two years. And they weren't good last year.

1085
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: At the end of the year, they weren't good in

1086
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: the playoffs. They pretty much didn't show up, and so

1087
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: this year, when his offense isn't quite as good, they

1088
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: need to show up and just start winning games for them,

1089
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: and they have lately. Well, they've got two problems, Everson

1090
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: Griffin and Xavier Rhodes, who have not played nearly to

1091
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 1: the level they played last year. They've been average players.

1092
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: If that, here's my thought on that. I've I've never

1093
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 1: been in love with his Viking teams to see the season,

1094
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: and if they win this game, it would be a

1095
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: huge win for them because first, obviously they make the playoffs,

1096
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: but also they finally beat a team worth a damn

1097
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: on their schedule and that goes that will feed directly

1098
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: into wildcard weekend and then we feel really good about themselves. Hey,

1099
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: we just beat the Bears and eleven win team and

1100
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: maybe we have some of this magic that that we

1101
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: haven't been able to find from last year. But they

1102
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: play him again. This is gonna be two weeks in

1103
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: a row. If the Vikings win this game, that too

1104
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: that that's like we already have the blueprint, blah blah blah,

1105
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: all good stuff. But I don't think that this is

1106
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: that Vikings team. I think there's been something off with

1107
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: this team all year, and that's why I think the

1108
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: Bears are actually gonna knock the Vikes at of contention.

1109
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: That is, I'm I almost want to lock it up,

1110
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: but I've already done it. I've already locked it. This

1111
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: one is way more exciting. Um, it's definitely more more

1112
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: onions going on if you want, all right, I'm gonna

1113
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: unlock the Giants. And this is for Wes, because I

1114
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: know Wes was upset about last week. I gonna lock

1115
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: up the Chicago Bears against the Minnesota Vikings, sending the

1116
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: Vikings into a dark, dark January and a lot of

1117
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: soul searching, and the Bears the team of a t

1118
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: N finishes the twelve and four, still finishes on the

1119
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: outside of the Boys, but they will be flying at

1120
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: twelve and four going into January. Upset feels like a

1121
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: little bit of a misrepresentation. I believe it was more

1122
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: of just a law reveal magnifico. You and Greg when

1123
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm not in the studio, your feet to the fire.

1124
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: I did the same thing every week. If it's that

1125
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: was that was spread, that was actually less than You

1126
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 1: don't do the same thing every week, you are full

1127
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 1: of it. You do not choose a San Francisco team

1128
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: that has a chance to get the number one pick

1129
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: against the team that has a chance to get a

1130
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: buy And you're like, oh, it seems pretty even in

1131
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: my mind. By the way, West, I did this to

1132
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: me that I just happen to dig up ghosts. You know,

1133
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: I got the Vikings there, and I do follow the

1134
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: Vegas rule. Last week, whoever I locked up rules you

1135
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: following mirror in Vegas. Everybody. Every man's got a coat

1136
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: that's mine. But the Vikings will go home. And actually

1137
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: it'll be good because Wes, you've been carrying a torch

1138
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: for the Vikes, so I think you wouldn't say a torch.

1139
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: I just think that everybody writes this team off, and

1140
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm not writing them off. I don't know what you're

1141
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: gonna see on Sunday, but I'd be a little worried

1142
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: if I was a team that had to be if

1143
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: they make the playoffs. It feels here to me that

1144
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: the entire football watching public now believes that the Eagles

1145
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: are a better team than the Vikings. That just feels

1146
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 1: very well, they can make the playoffs and still not

1147
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: be the better team. Just the way things shuck. I

1148
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: think it's quite evident the Vikings are a better team

1149
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: than I agree with West on that one. And I

1150
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: think Dalvin Cook right now is playing at it's like

1151
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: a special I can carry my team for a few

1152
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: weeks level. I'm five running back left. He is looking amazing. Alright. Uh.

1153
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: The Cincinnati Bungles six and nine uh travel to Pittsburgh

1154
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: to face the Steelers. Uh. Steelers Uh by virtue of

1155
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: their inability to close out the Saints last week. Now

1156
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: need help. They gotta win this game against the Bengals,

1157
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: which West I assume that they will. But you know

1158
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: who knows what this this Mike Tomlin team, and then

1159
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: they need help in the form of brain cramp. What

1160
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: do they need? What do they need? The Ravens need

1161
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: to lose to the Browns. Thank you, guys, West your

1162
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: thoughts on this game. Well, it's not just their inability

1163
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: to close out the Saints. If their inability to close

1164
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: out the Raiders, the Chargers, the Broncos all in the

1165
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: past five weeks. They can't close teams out. And you

1166
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: want to dismiss the Bengals because they look shorthanded, They're

1167
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 1: imminently dismissible. They've packed it in for the season just

1168
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: about um. And then you remember last year what they

1169
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: did to the Ravens. But they had their starting quarterback

1170
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: in that game, and drisk All is just not very good.

1171
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not a watchable offense right now outside

1172
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: of Joe Mixon. So it seems awfully hard to believe

1173
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: that the Bengals could give them a real run in

1174
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: this In a week of of lopsided matchups, the Steelers

1175
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: are actually the heaviest favorites in the NFL. And I

1176
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: agree because this this Bengals team is dead and the

1177
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: Steelers it just would be very Steelers. This would be

1178
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: a hillacious ass weapon of the week that if I

1179
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: had to make things rain, I would rain fire upon

1180
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: the Bengals, and that that this could be a twenty

1181
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: to thirty point difference in score. Yeah, it feels like

1182
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: a new chapter in this rivalry. When Vante is perfect,

1183
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: reports are coming out that his careers in jeopardy. He's

1184
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: had seven concussions. Um, he's played just horrendously this year.

1185
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: When he's been healthy, he's been overweight, he's missed tackles,

1186
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: and normally he's at the forefront of this matchup. It

1187
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: would be very Steelers to put up forty one point

1188
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: and Brown and Smith Schuster both go over one fifty

1189
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,919
Speaker 1: and you know they win forty seven and they don't

1190
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. It just feels and I mean, they've

1191
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: played really well the last two weeks. That's the thing

1192
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: that that p I call Costoms seven points. They went

1193
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: to New Orleans and they looked like the better team

1194
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: in the Dome. That's just a fact, and they blew

1195
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: it and they should be punished for that. But they're

1196
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: playing at a pretty high level. They can beat any

1197
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: team in the NFL in any any game. If they

1198
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs, and there's a better than probably

1199
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: they don't. Uh. They to me are one of the

1200
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: best teams in recent memory, maybe this whole century, to

1201
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: miss the playoffs entirely when you think they could probably

1202
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: be anybody right if I put him in the a

1203
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: f C tournament as a three or four seed with

1204
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: a home game, like, I might have taken them to

1205
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: win the zero, but i'd you know, I would be wrong.

1206
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: All due respects to the Ravens, who have done a

1207
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: nice job not only resurrecting their own season but showing

1208
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: that you could win football games in two thousand and

1209
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: eight team without scoring thirty five points a game. I

1210
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: feel like the playoffs are more fun place if the

1211
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: Steelers are in that spot at that six seeds, So

1212
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: that's where my rooting interests will be. They get because

1213
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: the Steelers, if nothing else, are always kind of a

1214
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: fun soap opera uh in the playoffs, and it usually

1215
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: works against them, but they play competitive fund games. The

1216
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: Ravens are gonna make whatever team they play play their style,

1217
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: which there's some beauty to that as well, but I'm

1218
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: just saying I want Steelers to make it. So you're

1219
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: a Browns fan this week, I am. I like the

1220
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: Browns in general, but yes, I will rooting be rooting

1221
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: hard for the Browns this week. That's understandable. Let's move

1222
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: on the Cardinals three and twelve playing out the string

1223
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: against the Seahawks nine and six. The Seahawks are they

1224
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: locked into everything as well? Now they could fall to

1225
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: the sixth seed if if the Vikings won and they lost,

1226
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: that's right, because Vikings then would be nine six and

1227
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: one and the Seahawks will be nine and seven. Greg, Uh,

1228
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: you don't see that happening though, right, that would be

1229
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: insane now, it would be insane. And the way the

1230
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: way that Russell Wilson finishes seasons is actually a thing.

1231
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: Like he legitimately has these December runs better than Geno Smith.

1232
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: I mean, He's just done it so many times now.

1233
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: And I I went back. I didn't watch rewatch that

1234
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: game until this morning. That with Wilson performance and it

1235
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: was my second highest graded game quarterback all season. He

1236
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: was so amazing in that game. And then you think

1237
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: of what else is around him right now. kJ right

1238
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: being back is a huge deal. Doug Baldwin being at

1239
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:40,919
Speaker 1: full strength is a huge deal. Bradley McDougald was back

1240
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: last week. That's a pretty big deal. D J flukers

1241
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: one like their son. Everything is coming together for this

1242
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: team at the right time. I am locking up next

1243
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: week the Seahawks beating the Cowboys, and big deal. I

1244
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: getting ahead of this. I'm letting you guys know because

1245
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: I love I for the same reasons like Greg. I've

1246
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: come around on the Seahawks. I like many others out

1247
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: of them, but not only do I believe in them,

1248
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: I believe in them in January. I believe in Pete

1249
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: Carroll and Russell Wilson making things happen, and I think

1250
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: the Cowboys they know how to lose in January, locking

1251
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: that up. I feel like Mark's been locking that one

1252
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: up for three weeks. Now he can join me. It

1253
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: could be a lock up. I also, yeah, I think

1254
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: I heard it on one broadcast, not locking it up,

1255
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: but just I I am wary that is. No one's

1256
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: going to give the Cowboys a chance in that game.

1257
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: Home team the Yeah, there's two teams that play the differences.

1258
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: Seahawks aren't quite the same on the road, certainly that

1259
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: they are. They are tough next week? Is that a thing?

1260
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they have come back. How about Pete Carroll

1261
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: coming back from Owen two and uh coming back from

1262
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: you know, the owner passes away and he winds up

1263
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: getting a contract extension. Anyways, that happened in the last

1264
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: few days, uh from the acting owner and uh it's

1265
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: kind of like the old rainmaker came back today. I'm

1266
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: gonna bake a rain in Seattle too. I mean, that's

1267
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: why it's always raining. I need to get some Here's

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01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: the second one. The second one, it's raining in Seattle

1269
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: against a desert team. M hmm. I like that By

1270
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: the way, Mamba Jamba is a pill word to replace

1271
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: him down. You know, wasn't there a song She's a

1272
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: bad Mama jammy. Uh? The Eagles eight and seven, they

1273
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: have a lot on the line here. With their surge

1274
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: down the stretch, winners of four of five, they can

1275
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. But they need to win and they

1276
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: need the Vikings to lose to the Bears, which they

1277
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: will because the Old Zuster has already locked up the Bears.

1278
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: So that has been foretold. Uh, West, don't even play

1279
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,479
Speaker 1: the game, don't need to. Uh. They get the Redskins here. Uh,

1280
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: so you would think on the road the Eagles will

1281
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: take care of business. There will be fourteen Redskins fans

1282
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: in attendance of this game and about thirty thousand Eagles fans. Yeah,

1283
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: all of that is true, and everyone's going to have

1284
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: the Eagles in this game, especially with the way Nick

1285
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: Foles is playing. But oh, and you agree just saying

1286
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: that Nick Foles is one of the least predictable quarterbacks

1287
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: out there. So you're you're saying, because they are heavy favorites,

1288
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 1: you would you would consider, you know, at least keeping

1289
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: the that the Redskins keep this game close. I think

1290
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 1: that's totally possible. Every time we've counted out the Redskins. Well,

1291
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: that's you putting words in my mouth. That's not what

1292
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: what are you saying? What are you I'm saying, don't

1293
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: be surprised if the Redskins win this game. You are

1294
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: still not going to give Nick Foles a lollipop pop.

1295
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:40,439
Speaker 1: The way he's playing, I understand he has him by microphone. Sorry,

1296
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: I know that nobody's surprised when he plays poorly, but

1297
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: he plays poorly almost as often as he plays well,

1298
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: So they're still holding out surprised. I mean, it's actually

1299
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: what happened. Why did you forget the first two weeks

1300
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: of the regular because it's ancient history, but it's part

1301
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: of his january Nick Foles. Oh, he turns into a

1302
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: different guy. He does. That's the thing. It's okay if

1303
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: you believe that. I just don't. Personally, he has a

1304
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: high ceiling and when he gets rolling, he's shown he

1305
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: can keep it rolling, whether it was under Chip Kelly

1306
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: or in the playoffs this year. And this is not

1307
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: a tough matchup for him. This has been you know,

1308
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: the Redskins defense under Jagruin has gotten a pass because

1309
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: the offense is so hurt, but it is sub mediocre

1310
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: and basically every category you can come up with, and

1311
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: their defense has been healthy. And they cut DJ Sweringer

1312
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 1: because he mouthed off about how he doesn't like the coaches,

1313
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: which after like four or five times, a lot of

1314
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: people are criticizing the Redskins for cutting him. It's like that,

1315
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: It's like he did it like three or four different times,

1316
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: and so it's like the fifth time. I also got

1317
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: run out of Houston, right, I think, like you can

1318
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: criticize the Redskins for a million things, and this one,

1319
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: this one, I think that's the reason they got it.

1320
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 1: It's now kind of cool to just kill the Redskins

1321
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: whenever they do something. But sometimes it's just common sense.

1322
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: You can't mouth off to your employer. We can't do

1323
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: it over yeah and over and over again too. And

1324
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: now he's on the Cardinals and go to the Pro

1325
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: Bowl as a Cardinal if he goes. The Eagles are

1326
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: different though not just because of falls but because of sprawls,

1327
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: add some juice, and Mike Wallace is at practice this week.

1328
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna make a big difference.

1329
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: Mike Wallace is off ir and uh about that guy,

1330
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna be back. Yeah, I do think their offense

1331
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 1: is different beyond fools. I agree with it. Uh, let's

1332
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: go to Sunday Night football. Yes, every year they flex

1333
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: in the game that has the most on the line.

1334
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: And uh, and here it is the a f C

1335
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: South hanging in the balance. The nine and six Indianapolis Colts,

1336
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: winners of eight of nine, against these nine and six

1337
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titoons, who have won six of eight and four

1338
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: in a row. Greg ros Atal, you're on fire, aren't

1339
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: you play in action? I mean, I wish the Ravens

1340
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: Browns were at this window or Vikings Bears. So I

1341
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: don't love love love it involves the Titans. And the

1342
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: Titans when you just said that they've won four in

1343
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: a row and they won what was it, six, eight,

1344
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: it's like it doesn't feel like it. I think Raybels.

1345
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: You know, I think Rabel's done a good coaching job.

1346
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just biased because ultimately he's gonna end up

1347
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: with the same record as Malarkey. But you look at

1348
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: this team. They don't really do that many things well,

1349
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: and yet they're nine and six they don't have a

1350
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: pass rush, and that's that's one reason I don't trust

1351
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: them against the Colts at all. Iraq Bosman her Harold

1352
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: Landry is kind of fizzled out, and Uh, Derek Morgan's

1353
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: had a really bad year. They cannot rust the passer. Uh.

1354
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariotta was on the practice field on Thursday. Uh.

1355
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: He missed the end of Week sixteen with that stinger, Uh,

1356
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: putting his status in doubt for this playing game. And Uh,

1357
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: I'm not never gonna question the guys toughness or how

1358
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 1: much he wants it and all this stuff. I'm just

1359
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: a blogger and a podcaster. But Marcus mary Mariotta, get

1360
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: on the field. In Week seventeen, he did a turn

1361
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 1: on third Did you just say that? I just did

1362
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: say that. Get on the field. And he's back on

1363
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: the practice field, which seems to point toward that happening. Yeah,

1364
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: it's another nerve issue which has been an ongoing problem

1365
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,919
Speaker 1: with him. And I think the problem is you're gonna

1366
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: look at that and say, there's no blame, Gabbert. You're

1367
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: gonna have Marcus Mariotta out there. That's huge for the Titans.

1368
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 1: But he's not been the same quarterback while trying to

1369
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 1: play through these nerve issues. He doesn't have the same

1370
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: touch on his passes. He can't grip the ball as well.

1371
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: And to me, if he tries to play, that's not

1372
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: necessarily a great thing for the Titans. Wow, you would,

1373
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: but still an upgrade. Obviously, nobody has any idea. Yeah,

1374
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 1: I guess what his hand can do with a football

1375
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: right now. He played through injuries last year. This was

1376
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: a very similar spot where the Titans were not expected

1377
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs and they beat a good Jaguars defense.

1378
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: He did not have a great game, but he did

1379
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: make big time plays at the end of that game

1380
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: to get into the playoffs, and then you know, did

1381
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: the same thing in the playoffs. Obviously you want him

1382
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 1: out there. But yeah, I mean this season he has

1383
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: eleven touchdowns and eight interceptions. That's he They haven't been

1384
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: a high scoring at all. That's two weeks of touchdown

1385
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 1: production from Patrick Mahomes. That's true. But the Colts have

1386
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: to come through. The Colts. I don't think they're an

1387
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 1: up and down team. They've won eight and nine. There

1388
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 1: uber dangerous, but they're not so talented or something that

1389
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: you just like chalk up a win in any game,

1390
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 1: including you know, against the Giants last week. No, I

1391
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: agree with that totally. I'm just saying the specific injury

1392
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 1: for a quarterback that involves your nerve and your throwing

1393
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 1: arm that I mean, Carson Palmer has had that before

1394
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 1: and he said, you just can't pass. I mean, you

1395
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 1: can't grip the football right. It hurt his his his

1396
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: ability to throw it down the field at the which

1397
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 1: is already compromised to begin with. And then on on

1398
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: the other side. I was gonna start with this and

1399
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: I forgot, But now I'm coming back a little and

1400
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: I think Andrew Luck's arm is better right now than

1401
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 1: it was early in the season. And I want to

1402
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 1: point to one play that changed the playoff picture last

1403
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 1: week third and eight. Giants are up fourteen at the

1404
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 1: end of the third quarter. It's third and eight. Andrew

1405
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: Luck throws a back shoulder throw to Dontrelle Inman up

1406
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 1: the seam. The level of difficulty on that throw and

1407
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 1: the amazing catch by Inman too to be able to

1408
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 1: adjust because you just don't see back shoulder throws like

1409
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:21,600
Speaker 1: that in the middle of the field. But that was

1410
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 1: the only place that you could have possibly done it.

1411
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: That was just a p in the mid by Andrew Luck,

1412
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: and he had a couple of nice, uh very flattened

1413
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: out passes down the field that I don't know if

1414
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 1: he was making those early. If they don't make if

1415
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 1: they don't complete that pass, and Inman did an incredible job.

1416
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think they're winning that game.

1417
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: Their defense was not getting stopped. I think that's ball

1418
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: game for the Giants. But those are the types of

1419
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: players you need to go on a playoff run. I

1420
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: talked about that very throw in my m v P column,

1421
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 1: Flash Westling Top ten m v P candidates, So you'll

1422
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 1: see where I have my homes and Breeze and Luck.

1423
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 1: He's on like the two three you put them three,

1424
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: I put lock. I think like six or seventh. Okay,

1425
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 1: that's very I had Aaron Donald in the top four,

1426
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 1: and I had Cleil mac and DeAndre Hopkins in there

1427
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: in the mix. We actually Mark is out with some

1428
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 1: type of throat issue um potentially laryngitis, but I did

1429
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 1: ask him. I said, the most important thing is that

1430
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: we know what your lock is. Mark Sessler, with the

1431
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: help of a little friend Danny's locking up to Court.

1432
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 1: That's Culton, Cessler locking up the Cults Andrew Luck. If

1433
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: he wins this game, will become the only player since

1434
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 1: the nineteen seventy merger with an eleven and oh record

1435
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: against an opponent eleven wins without a loss. If he wins,

1436
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: they have never beaten Andrew Luck. And I'm with Mark,

1437
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm locking this up for the court, Okay, locking up

1438
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: the Colts. Casey out. You can't. You can't put any

1439
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,679
Speaker 1: shade on that. I would go the other way, Dan,

1440
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 1: if you're interested in winning this thing, I think you

1441
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 1: gotta like that the two guys in front of you

1442
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 1: are on the same side, and they're on a road

1443
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 1: in a game that they could lose. I could certainly

1444
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: I would take the Colts as well, but for picking

1445
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 1: feel more strongly about the Ravens. But I've been picking

1446
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 1: the Coolts. Is my team all year, and they they

1447
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 1: need me here, they need you. You got their back,

1448
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: and I understand that America is rooting for you guys,

1449
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: including because I would much rather have you guys get

1450
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: your locks right, that's for sure, than have to watch

1451
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 1: the Titans in the playoffs. That's the one team I

1452
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 1: did not want to see make it through. And I'm

1453
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,759
Speaker 1: sorry I said it on Sunday. I'll say it again.

1454
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: Tytoons fans, you want me to drop that Moniker that

1455
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: you hate so much, win a huge ball game, not

1456
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: only make the playoffs, stick it to West, stick it

1457
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 1: to Mark, and then stick it to the old Zeuser.

1458
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,799
Speaker 1: You will forever more be known as the Tennessee Titan.

1459
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:07,600
Speaker 1: A lot on the line in our little world of ours.

1460
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: It makes me so happy to watch the people who

1461
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 1: get angry with you, because it's so angry. They get

1462
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 1: so angry. Well, it looks like a five year build

1463
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 1: though to this moment. They've had other opportunities before and

1464
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: they've blown it. But I feel like if they come

1465
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 1: up short, it's kind of like the team that will

1466
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 1: be back there next year. You don't know when you're

1467
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: gonna get another chance to raise the Titoons Moniker. It

1468
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: could be years and yeah, and it wuld be like

1469
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 1: if they do win and then lay an egg next week,

1470
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 1: I will I promise there will be no double cross.

1471
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 1: It will be over if you win Sunday Night football.

1472
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 1: So uh, there you go, there's your chance. And as

1473
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 1: much as I feud with the Tytoons fans. Could one

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Speaker 1: guy on a pot says this thing, and it really

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Speaker 1: just that's why I do. I have respect for Titoons fans,

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Speaker 1: because you Tytoons supporters out there love your Titoons, and

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Speaker 1: for that you have my respect. You are Titoons fans

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Speaker 1: to the very end. Go Titoons on Sunday because it

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Speaker 1: helps me in the lock battle potentially. All right, here

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Speaker 1: we go. We'll be back on Sunday with our week

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Speaker 1: seventeen recap, so we will have all this stuff settled

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Speaker 1: in and locked in the next time you hear from

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Speaker 1: us on the show. And also, as I hinted at

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Speaker 1: earlier or said earlier, we will have a show Monday

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Speaker 1: as well, our Black Monday Show. First time we'll ever

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Speaker 1: do that, where we recap everything that's going on with

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Speaker 1: the coaches, comings and goings and stayings and firings and

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Speaker 1: all that. Uh, that's it. This is Dan hands Is

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Speaker 1: signing up for the mail Man, the Old Boss getting

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Speaker 1: well suit, Mark Sessler need that throat to me clicking

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Speaker 1: come post season a time, and Ricky Hollywood behind the

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Speaker 1: glass till Sunday. Mab