WEBVTT - Hour 2 – NFL Draft QB Questions, Clark Kellogg 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.560 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:05.520 Sports Radio Our two. 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:09.239 On this Tuesday. Clark Kellogg from CBS will join us. 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:12.880 We'll talk some March madness. Reggie Miller. He'll join us 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:16.160 in the final hour of the program. Can wemby steal 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:20.560 the MVP eight seven seven three DP show email address 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.880 Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle the DP Show. Good morning 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:26.560 if you are allowing us into your homes watching on 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:29.440 Peacock or NBC Sports Network. We say good morning to 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:33.240 our radio affiliates around the country. Four hundred cities carry 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:38.160 this award nominated program Opening day Major League Baseball quietly 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:43.040 tomorrow It'll be the Giants against the Yankees on Netflix. 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:46.479 All right? Pull question Seaton eight seven to seven three 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:50.320 DP Show operator Tyler sitting by results from the first hour, 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:52.320 and what are we going to go with hour two? 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:56.000 Whose career would you want? Past, present, future? Otani, Wimbinyama 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:59.160 or other. Otani has seventy three percent of that vote, 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:01.960 followed by fifty percent from one ban Yama and twelve 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:06.480 percent from another other. That's interesting to me. Why are 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:11.440 people not appreciate Is it too early for victor or? 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:18.000 Yeah? Probably so? I think once you win something, you 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:21.319 know where we waited for Giannis to win. We waited 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:25.600 for Embiid he won an MVP. We waited for Joker. 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:30.679 But Otani is here, he's now, and you know we 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:32.800 waited to see could he do it? And he was 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:35.280 able to do it high end pitching and hitting. Yes, 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:37.399 I think I'm seeing the problem with this poll question. 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.880 Actually it's a little bit in the wording, because now 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.080 that I'm going down through the comments where all the 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:46.319 others are, it's like, ever heard of Bill Russell? Ever 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:51.919 heard of Michael Jordan, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes. It's like, Okay, 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.760 that's not the group that we're talking about. Okay, should 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:58.880 have been freezed. I should have changed the free today's athlete, Yeah, okay, 0:01:58.920 --> 0:01:59.360 something like that. 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:01.920 Yeah, Paul, I was wondering when I wrote this, is 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:06.240 there another Is there another global athlete that's young or 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:10.600 in his prime that's global, which would remove the NFL M. 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:15.760 I don't know. I don't know if soccer, Messi and 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:18.360 Rinaldo were at the back half. I don't know if 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:22.040 soccer has the global athlete. The one singular global. 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:24.919 Athlete, like the dude right now is Lamina mal he's 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:27.760 probably like he's I think he's like eighteen nineteen something 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:28.079 like that. 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:32.799 He's a big deal. He's a really big deal. Yeah, Oh, 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:37.400 Tani is global. That helps. But then when Benyama is 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:43.560 from France, global sport with the NBA as well, Yes, don. 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:46.239 Depending on where you ranked tennis in the Lexicon of Sports, 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:48.720 Carlos Alkaraz had a pretty good resume for twenty two 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:49.239 years old. 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:53.200 Yeah, but when you look at the numbers that he 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:58.320 has to get, when you know Novak Djokovic, I mean, 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:02.119 those numbers are to even think, you know, somebody's going 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:06.960 to eclipse those numbers. I remember when Pete Sampras won 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:11.960 it Wembledon, and I think, what was that his fourteenth 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.320 or fifteenth or sixteen, And I'm like, is anybody going 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:19.799 to come close to that? So he's got fourteen Grand 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:23.320 Slam titles, and then all of a sudden you had Federer, 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:28.239 you hadn't a doll and then you had Novak Djokovic 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:33.800 in the same era competing against each other wild and 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:38.160 for him to be to stand alone having to compete 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.520 with those guys, whether it was on clay or it 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.800 was at US Open or wembled in Australian Open and 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:46.640 to have that many Grand Slams. You know, when you 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:49.960 forget how many Grand Slams, how many titles somebody has, 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:52.560 that's when you know you've had a pretty special career. 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:54.640 And you're like, I don't how many. I don't know 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:58.200 how many is he got? How many does Djokovic have? 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:04.520 Sam twenty three, twenty four, twenty four. It's easy to 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:05.400 lose track of that. 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:06.640 Since we started the show. 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:11.560 He won another one. All right, we'll get another poll 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:15.480 question here for hour and two. The last hour we 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:17.880 at the end of it, we talked about dan Orlovsky 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:21.480 of the Mothership. He really likes himself some Ty Simpson, 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:26.080 and he had this to say on Get Up. I 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:27.839 think ty Simpson is QB one. 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:31.280 I think ty Simpson is the best quarterback in this class. 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:33.719 I think when you look at the body of work 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:35.960 and what was asked of these two quarterbacks, you have 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:39.200 to start with the question who needed to do more 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:42.279 to carry their football team to play well? Ty Simpson 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:45.240 and it's not close between those two quarterbacks. And if 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:48.240 we're asking, like okay, we're trying to see what you 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:50.560 are as a player in college and what you're gonna 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.200 be asked to do in the NFL, and what translates. 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.159 I start with what do you do in moments of 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:58.320 panic with the football? Because that's really what separates good degree. 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:00.520 I would tell you that ty Simpson and is more 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:03.600 consistent in that regard. What guy was asked to do 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:07.800 more NFL throws fifteen twenty twenty five yard en routes 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:11.359 deep corner or sale routes ty Simpson And it's not 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:12.760 even close in that regard. 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:20.440 I believe that he truly believes now conspiracy theorist, and 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:24.720 you know they're represented by this same firm CIA. CIA 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:28.040 represents a whole lot of people in the sports world. 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:30.839 I don't know if Orlovsky's doing somebody a solid here. 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.320 ESPN does have the draft and all of a sudden, 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:37.280 you're now pushing this out now. I don't know if 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.200 anybody's going to react. I don't know if a team 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.360 goes wait, wait a minute, man, we didn't have a 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.240 first round grade in Orlovsky. Now that would be where 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.560 if I'm a GM, I would have enough respect for 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:49.560 Orlovsky that I would reach out to him and I 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:52.800 would say, Hey, tell me what you're seeing, Tell me 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.600 what I might be missing here because Orlovsky did play 0:05:55.800 --> 0:06:00.280 the position. He's very educated in analyzing the those who 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.320 are playing the position. And just because he says he's 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:07.200 better than Fernando Mendoza doesn't mean he's going to be 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:12.360 a great quarterback. Like, keep that in mind. The situation 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.920 you're going to go into, and I don't know how 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:18.400 good Fernando Mendoza is going to be. Do I think 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.919 he's a great face for your franchise. If you're the Raiders, 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:26.360 you have stability there. Yes, But he's not Andrew Luck, 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:31.400 he's not Peyton Manning. So I think just because you're 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:33.560 the number one pick in the draft you won the Heisman, 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:38.560 that's happened before, and it doesn't mean that doesn't equate 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:47.039 to success. He has the measurables. Orlofsky is saying ty 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:50.960 Simpson had to overcome more. Now MY big concern is, 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.640 what did they have sixteen starts in college? I don't 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:59.160 want a quarterback who had sixteen starts. History's on my side. 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.760 I got to have at least thirty five starts. Now 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.800 that's where I look at bow Knicks didn't go well 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:09.000 at Auburn. He goes to Oregon He's a quarterback in 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:12.920 two very competitive conferences, and he plays at a very 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:15.960 high level when he gets to Oregon and prove that 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.960 was no fluke by what he's done with Denver. But 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:22.600 I need a sample size. I always go back to 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:27.480 Trey lance Man. That's an incredible year. Okay, it was 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.560 one year. I want to see what you can do 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:34.679 for at least two years, if not three bow Knicks 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:39.440 played five years. Jaden Daniels five years in college. That's 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:44.880 what I want to see. But I truly believe Orlavsky 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:49.440 believes that Ty Simpson is a better quarterback than Fernando Mendoza. 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:53.920 Now a lot goes into that if Fernando Mendoza, well, 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:58.640 the Raiders will protect him, They'll beef up the offensive line. 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:03.760 And I'm you know, I'm grateful, thankful, because I don't 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:07.280 want to see another situation where you go that guy's 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:09.760 going to lose his confidence. They're going to be a mess. 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:12.520 He's going to get sacks sixty five times. He'll be 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:16.040 another David Carr. I've been down this road before, and 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:19.120 I hope he gets that opportunity. Also with ty Simpson. 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.640 What if he goes to the Jets, what if he 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.320 goes to the Cardinals, he's not in a better position 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.240 than Fernando Mendoza other than he won't be asked to 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.840 start right away. But what if he goes to Pittsburgh. 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:37.480 Now he's in a better situation than Fernando Mendoza. And 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:39.920 a lot of times it comes down to where you 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:46.200 go when did you get drafted. I always go back 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:48.160 to what Tom Brady told me years ago. If he 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.400 was a first round pick, he never would have lasted 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:54.400 in the league because he wasn't ready. Instead, he got 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.640 his chance and he made the most of it. Patrick 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:01.520 Mahomes going to Kansas City. If he ended up going 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:06.960 to Carolina or Cleveland or the Bears, he's not Patrick Mahomes. 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:10.800 These things work out, but they work out because of 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:15.040 the surrounding cast. And ty Simpson might be the best quarterback, 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:17.520 but that doesn't mean he's going to be great or 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:21.320 even good. And I even said this about Fernando Mendoza. 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:25.839 If I said right now, he'll have the career of 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:31.600 Joe Flacco, you're going to sign up for that. Now 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:33.880 you may not want to, I would tell you to 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:37.240 sign up for that. Or if I said he's going 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:40.800 to have the career of Kirk Cousins. Are you going 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.280 to sign up for that? The answer is no. But 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:47.160 if you look, I want sustainability. I want somebody who 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:52.400 has put up good numbers. That's what you want. You 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:55.120 want somebody who's going to be there every year. He's 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.400 going to be your franchise. He's going to put up numbers. 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:04.800 Joe Flacco had a very good career. Yeah, Mark, if. 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.200 People don't forget how close the Ravens were to a 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:10.920 couple other Super Bowls, so they were really competitive with 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:13.400 Joe Flacco. Besides winning that one super Bowl. 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.240 Mel Kiper will join us on the program tomorrow. Yes, 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:17.400 paul I went back. 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:19.560 And looked in twenty twenty four, about a month before 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:23.400 the draft, around now Orlofsky had his quarterbacks. He said, 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.640 Jade Daniels, no doubt, number one pick. He said, then 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.280 Caleb Williams, Drake May But he said he had no 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:32.480 doubts about Jade Daniels, and people dinged them for that, 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:34.560 They said, well, how can you put him that far ahead. 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:37.520 There was a time when that take was completely right. 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.559 At the end of Jade and daniels first year, everybody 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.200 thought Jane Daniels was the guy, and injuries have slowed 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:46.800 that take down, and it fluctuates year to year. But 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:48.720 the Jayden and Daniels take was hot at the time. 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:51.800 Yeah, I think we still believe that he can be 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:56.520 an elite quarterback. But I don't know. Hey, I still 0:10:56.600 --> 0:11:00.720 liked Caleb Williams, but you know, I like even more 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.600 now because of his coach and the weapons he's got. 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.600 And then Drake may goes to the super Bowl without 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:11.680 really a supporting cast. But you know, it's year to year. 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:14.640 I mean, they got a long way to go before 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:18.920 it's done. But if Orlovsky likes ty Simpson and uh, 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.840 you want to criticize that because they're represented by the 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:28.800 same you know, firm mothership carries the draft, hype it 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:32.920 up a little bit, Okay, But I truly believe that 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:36.320 Orlovsky believes Ty Simpson is the number one quarterback. 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:38.680 Yeah see, I'm not saying that Dan doesn't believe that 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:44.560 Dan Orlovsky, but it does happen in this business where uh, oh, 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.280 that guy, my age, my best friend is this agent, 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.680 and that guy's one of my that agent's players, my 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:50.640 best friends players. 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:51.800 So I talked nicer about them. 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:55.679 Yeah, that absolutely happens. Maybe not so much the number 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.800 one overall pick of the draft that's usually, but definitely 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:00.680 in all of the other ones. My best friends is 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.520 that guy's agent, so I talk nice about him. 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.679 Absolutely. Yeah. When you're all of a sudden saying that 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:09.080 somebody's forty yard dash time at the combine wasn't correct 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:13.679 because other people had handheld times for that forty yard dash, 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:16.240 and then all of a sudden, you realize maybe there's 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:20.160 a relationship with an agent, and you're going, in a minute, 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.320 what about all the other guys who had hand time 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:27.880 forty yard dashes? Just one player stood out? 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:28.560 Yes. 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:28.920 Boy. 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:32.559 Whenever I hear a negative report about a draftee this month, 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.480 I think it's another team trying to get that draftee 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:36.559 to drop to them. 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.240 You know That's what it feels like. Well, we've talked 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:43.040 about this where we have to have something to talk about. 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.680 The mothership NFL network, they have to have something to 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:48.800 talk about that's different. What is different. They can run 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:52.000 ESPN can run with this the entire week if they 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:57.360 want to. With Ty Simpson, they can run that and 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:00.200 everybody's going to have an opinion on it. There's no 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:03.319 other quarterback that you can put into the conversation. Though 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:10.000 there's no QB three here, you're waiting for something else 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.640 with this draft. How early do you take Jeremiah Love 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:15.840 And where does Ty Simpson go? 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:20.400 Yes, Mark, do not worry, guys. Next year's QB's class 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:21.120 going to be loaded. 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:25.160 Of course. It will be a couple of phone calls 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:29.040 in here and then we'll talk to Clark Kellogg. David Montana, 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.880 Good morning, Dave. What's on your mind today? 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:34.160 Hey? 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:39.800 Dan? First time ever doing this six one and a 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:46.800 wife pleasing power lifting two hundred and thirty pounds. So 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:50.560 I have been fortunate. I work for myself. I've been 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.760 able to take my children to school in the morning 0:13:54.720 --> 0:14:00.400 all these years, and throughout all those years on in 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:03.640 the background of the morning. And I'm a little bit emotional. 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:12.400 Today is the anniversary my dad passing away. But You've 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:15.960 always been in the background in the morning with my kids, 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.520 the older kids that have moved on when they come 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:21.600 back home. One of the things they always ask the 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:25.440 younger kids his house, the Dan Patrick's show, and just 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:29.720 having that constant stream in the morning. To tie all 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.560 of that time together and all those years, I've got 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:36.040 one story out of it. In the afternoon when I 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.440 pick up the kids. Normally we've moved on to music. 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:42.160 But the one day I wasn't feeling music and I 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:43.480 had the radio station. 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:46.120 On and Colin Cowhard was on. 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:49.600 In the afternoon, kids hop in the truck. They look 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:53.440 at the radio station. They're wondering what's going on. When 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:58.120 I explain how radio stations work, everybody gets quiet for 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:02.040 a couple seconds, and about ten seconds later, all you 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.880 hear from the back is this guy sucks. 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:09.160 Oh no, come on, come on, tell your kids to 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:13.040 be nice. Sorry to hear about your dad. Good taste, 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:15.160 but still you don't need to do that. No, no, 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:19.960 we're not rack me. I'm out. Colin and I are fine. 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:24.080 We're fine. We moved on. We're fine. The kids may 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:28.920 have issues, but kids get it. Yeah, he's all choked up, 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.720 and uh, well, there's one story. And then my kids 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:35.480 say this. Now we're fine. Colin and I are fine, 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:36.520 We move on. 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:38.840 I knew that story was gonna end like this. 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:43.440 You did at brought up Collins? 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:45.120 Okay, Yeah, I saw where this is going. 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:59.000 Yeah, lost my dad, kids, come back, this guy sucks. Alright, 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:02.320 let's take a break. Nobody says a bad word about 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:06.040 Clark Kellogg nobody. No, you can't find anybody who'll say 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:12.560 a bad word about Clark. Kelloch Jumper was a little suspective. Stinks, 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:16.960 but definitely not sucks. Clark will join us coming up 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:18.480 next here on The Dan Patrick Show. 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.240 Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:24.920 Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:28.200 on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:32.240 Paully Fools Gohere with Tony Foosco. Yeah, as everybody knows, 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.320 we're the hosts of the award winning Paully and Tony 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.840 Foodsco Show. But instead of us telling you how great 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.600 we are, here's how Dan Patrick described us when he 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:40.520 came on our show. 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.560 Quick, knowledgeable and funny, opinionated. 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.480 What are you doing interrupting our promo? Yeah, you wasn't 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:48.880 talking about you. 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:50.880 You took those clips totally of context. 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.080 Oh yeah, well after this promo, I'm gonna take you 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:55.320 out and beat you. 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:57.200 Let me put this into context. 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:58.040 Shut up. 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.160 Yeah, anyway, just listen to the Paully in tone many 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:03.320 Boothsgo show on IoT Radio, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:04.320 get your podcasts. 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:09.960 Yea more phone calls coming up. They called him Special 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:12.560 K when he was in high school and college. Clark 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:17.520 Kellogg CBS Sports Lead college basketball studio analyst and the 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:20.720 eighth round or eighth overall pick by the Pacers in 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:24.359 nineteen eighty two in the first round. You still got 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:28.120 your uniform from your Pacer days, you know, I've got 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:28.640 I do. 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:32.840 Have actually a Pacer uniform and a Buckeye uniform DP 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:37.400 in a memorabilia case that primarily is filled with our 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:40.639 kids stuff, not mine, But I do have I do 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.680 have a Pacer uniform and a buck Eye jersey in then. 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:47.359 Did you ever ask for somebody's jersey when you were playing? 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:49.920 I have not. 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.800 I do have a signed pair of Reggie Miller's shoes. 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.800 I got a signed pair of Kobe's through an auction. 0:17:57.000 --> 0:18:00.600 Reggie actually signed a pair of personal for me. But 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.600 that's I think. And I have something from John Wooden, 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:06.040 the late great John Wooden. I have a basketball that 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:09.920 he signed for me with a scripture reference on it. Oh, 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.080 I can't think I'm not a huge memorabilia god, Dan, 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:17.400 I'm not. I'm more of a memories guy. So I'm 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:21.480 trying to accumulate those and photos and the like, and 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:24.720 but no, I'm not a big memorabilia guy. Actually, my 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:28.560 wife doesn't allow me to bring too much extra stuff. 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.280 I couldn't imagine back in your day where you asked 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:35.280 Larry Bird for one of his jerseys. 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:40.520 No, that wasn't quite operated in that time. Great respect, 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:44.080 great admiration. But I'm trying to figure out how I 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:46.720 can maybe take him down when I see him and 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:48.040 ask him for his jersey. 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:49.320 But probably getting away of that. 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:53.639 Everybody is it feels like lamenting. There's no Cinderella story. 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:59.320 But I think there's dark horses like Iowa in Nebraska. 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:02.919 It's a great story. Even Texas coming out of nowhere, 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:07.399 but they're not a Cinderella story. There's high point BCU. 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:11.240 You know they were nice, but now you know we 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.320 get to this point. It feels like this is where 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:17.160 you want the blue bloods or you want the best 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:21.239 teams in college basketball. So your thoughts about no so 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:23.400 called Cinderella Dan. 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:27.000 This tournament is such a special event on the sports calendar. 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.280 In the minds of many, it's the best. 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:33.040 It's three weeks to a championship, that's sixty eight teams. 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:35.800 Ultimately one gets a signing moment. 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:37.680 You do have. 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:41.399 Stories that unfold from places that you don't anticipate, and 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:44.240 you can dub Cinderella however you'd. 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:45.240 Like to dub her. 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:52.600 This tournament always, always, always delivers. Now depending on your 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:56.240 personal preference of what you prefer, then it might deliver 0:19:56.440 --> 0:20:00.240 more or less in a given year than you think. 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:05.000 But by and large, we've had a great blend of 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:10.399 the excitement, the unpredictability that is March Madness, and so 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:13.560 I always embrace it for what it is each and 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:15.840 every year. We had four number ones for the second 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:21.080 time since the field expanded last year, and that was phenomenal. 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:26.840 We very well could have three number ones in the 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:27.920 final four this year. 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:31.159 That's still TBD. So I take it for what it is. 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:35.680 It's a joyous and exciting and blessed ride every year, 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:38.720 and we've had quality matchups. 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:40.760 We've had some surprising blowouts too. 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:42.920 I mean we had blowouts in a four or five 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:44.879 matchup between Texas Tech and Obama. 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:46.959 We had a surprising. 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:50.760 Blowout in an eight nine matchup between Saint Louis and Georgia. 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:54.680 I can't recall seeing those kind of margins of victories 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:58.159 with those two seed lines, so again, enjoy it for 0:20:58.240 --> 0:20:58.760 what it is. 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:01.120 I'm not opposed so the matchups we have. 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:04.919 Cinderella showed up briefly, and we still have one I 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:12.960 think in Iowa, who shockingly dominated a dominating inside frontline 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:13.479 in Florida. 0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:19.520 Talking to Clark Kellogg from CBS being studio for March Madness, 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:24.200 the future of the mid major I don't want to overreact, 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:27.199 but I do want to react to it. Of is 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:31.080 this an aberration of what's gone on maybe the last 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:36.120 two years, and maybe kind of this is the future 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:37.440 with college basketball? 0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:41.200 Time shall tell Dan, you know, we have a real 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:46.200 tendency towards recency bias in our lives and in our sports. 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:51.600 And we'll see, right, we'll see it clearly looks like 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:57.440 the tide has shifted more towards the Power Conference teams, 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:02.080 the big brand names, but there's been a dominance of 0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:06.640 those groups. Anyway, it might be enhanced and increase going forward. 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:10.119 I still believe part of the magic of this event 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:13.360 is the fact that the mid majors of the. 0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:15.160 Non Power Conference teams have an. 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:19.320 Opportunity, with the right mix and the right formula to 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:22.359 get to an elite A to Final four where we 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:24.320 see fewer than. 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:27.040 We've seen in past years. 0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:31.240 The lanstgate tends to lead you to think that I 0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:35.720 would rather let the data accumulate before making a statement 0:22:35.760 --> 0:22:35.960 on it. 0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:39.520 But I'm wondering if I just look at this big 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:46.480 picture logically, you have the big conferences where these kids 0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:49.679 might not be drafted and they could stay an extra 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:54.119 year now, and you're going to then you're going to 0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:57.000 have big names at your school who will go to 0:22:57.040 --> 0:22:58.800 the draft. But then you're gonna get guys who go, 0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:01.440 I got nil that I can make money. I might 0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:05.760 stay a year longer at Kentucky or LSU or Florida 0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:09.400 those places. And you're also going to cherry pick the 0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:11.640