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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Caddy.

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Speaker 3: It's the Armstrong and Getty replick.

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Speaker 3: Now enjoy the Armstrong and Eddy replay. I haven't suggested

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Speaker 3: that Donald Trump is Hitler. I wouldn't. I don't think

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Speaker 3: any Democrat has.

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Speaker 6: I actually, and I think it's a it's a smear

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Speaker 6: that they project back on to critics.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's the governor of Illinois saying he's never compared

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Speaker 5: Trump to Hitler, and Nicole Wallace, the host saying I

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Speaker 5: don't think any Democrat ever has. Now Here is a

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Speaker 5: montage and this is just a short portion of Democrats

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Speaker 5: comparing Trump Taylor.

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Speaker 7: We have a.

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Speaker 1: Simil Hitler in the White House right now.

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Speaker 3: But do want to be Hitler for sure.

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Speaker 7: Comparing the tactics of Donald Trump to Mussolini and Hitler

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Speaker 7: as a very legitimate thing.

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Speaker 4: He is paving the way to become a Vlatin im

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Speaker 4: putin or to become an Adolf Hitler.

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Speaker 7: Well, Hitler was duly elected, right right, And so somebody

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Speaker 7: with those tendencies, so dictatorial authoritarian tendencies, would be like, Okay,

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Speaker 7: we're gonna shut this down, We're gonna throw these people

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Speaker 7: in jailor and they didn't usually telegraph that Trump is

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Speaker 7: telling us what he intends.

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Speaker 5: To Yes, right, So it's not even low level Democrats.

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Speaker 5: In that montage, you got Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi

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Speaker 5: among others, telling Trump Hitler right after Nicole Wallace and

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Speaker 5: the governor of Illinois say I've never call him Hitler.

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Speaker 5: I don't think any Democrat ever has. Okay, whatever, these

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Speaker 5: are the times we live in.

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Speaker 4: There are a number of people, including a lot of

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Speaker 4: progressives of course, who will just lie overtly, knowing most

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Speaker 4: people don't have the nerve to call them on it.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, I thought that might lead into this, and maybe

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Speaker 5: it's why we're going the direction we're going.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea. I'm not a fan of Hitler.

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Speaker 5: The question from Gallup is it's about pride and being

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Speaker 5: an American, and it goes back to the turn of

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Speaker 5: the century two thousand. So since two thousand, they've been

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Speaker 5: asking this question, how proud are you to be an American?

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Speaker 5: Extremely proud, very proud, moderately proud, only a little proud,

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Speaker 5: or not proud at all?

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Speaker 3: Which would you choose?

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Speaker 5: Joe Getty as of this day in twenty twenty five, Oh,

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Speaker 5: the top one. Yeah, me too. Extremely proud, Yeah, and

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Speaker 5: eve of liberty across the globe. Yeah, extremely and proud

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Speaker 5: with all our flaws. Of course, this graph you would

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Speaker 5: not have been an outlier at all at the turn

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Speaker 5: of the century, no matter your political stripe. This graph

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Speaker 5: only includes people who are very or extremely doesn't even

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Speaker 5: include moderately proud, just very or extremely. In the year

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Speaker 5: two thousand, start of this century, for Republicans it was

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Speaker 5: ninety percent. For independence it was eighty five percent. For

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Speaker 5: Democrats it was eighty seven percent. Wow, So it was

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Speaker 5: nine out of ten of Americans, no matter your political stripe,

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Speaker 5: who were extremely or very proud of being an American.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Let that sink in for a second. That's amazing to

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Speaker 5: where we are now. For Republicans just served two terms.

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Speaker 5: Bush was in the middle of term number one, and

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Speaker 5: it was pre nine to eleven. Okay, so it was

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Speaker 5: just the attitude, it was the culture. Well, well I'll

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Speaker 5: have to get into the wise. But Republicans have held

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Speaker 5: steady more or less during that entire time, at around

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Speaker 5: ninety percent. I think that's interesting because I mean that

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Speaker 5: includes the Obama years. It's not just a I'm up

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Speaker 5: with whoever's president now thing. It stated ninety percent during

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Speaker 5: a time when you weren't happy with the president. You're

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Speaker 5: whether you're proud of being an American or not, should

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Speaker 5: not change with the presidency. But Democrats, it has gone

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Speaker 5: mostly down. It's like the stock market. There's little jiggles,

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Speaker 4: And now Jiggles is my drag name. By the way,

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Speaker 4: you read my books chance on the weekend. High school libraries,

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Speaker 4: you're drag elementary school libraries, Yeah, Drag time Story Hour, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: little jiggles.

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, Yeah, you're so flamboyant.

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Speaker 4: Hi kids. Let me indoctrinate you. Let's get back to

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Speaker 4: this very important question. This is important, This should be

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Speaker 4: studied by a panel of experts and figure out what's

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Speaker 4: going the hell's going on here. So for the Republicans

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Speaker 4: people as self identified Republicans, it's held steady at ninety percent.

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Speaker 4: Independence are now at half. So it was ninety percent,

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Speaker 4: it's now half fifty three percent. Why independents have dropped

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Speaker 4: the fifty three percent is an interesting question. And then

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Speaker 4: for self identified Democrats, it's now down to barely above

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Speaker 4: a third. Went from nine out of ten the start

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Speaker 4: and you know, the whole critical theory crowd. I congratulates you.

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Speaker 4: You haven't won, but you're winning. That's an enormous gain

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Speaker 4: for driving the country apart for killing the United States

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Speaker 4: from within. It's one of the most amazing propaganda victories

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Speaker 5: Why have Republicans held steady regardless of the administration while

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Speaker 5: Democrats have trended downward brief blip up a little bit

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Speaker 4: I think Democrats are obsessed with politics in a way

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Speaker 4: so this could be some Trump backlash. I also have

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Speaker 4: to observe that the people that are self identified Democrats

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Speaker 4: are very, very different twenty five years on than they

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Speaker 5: Well, it looks to me party's way to the left

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Speaker 5: looks to me like when Trump was elected. And it

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Speaker 5: did go down fairly steeply after Trump was elected, But

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Speaker 5: the sixties. How did you go from ninety percent into

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I tell you my theory, and I'm pretty

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Speaker 4: sure I'm right. Here's a couple of headlines to illustrate

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Speaker 4: the point. Minneapolis public schools have prohibited white and Asian

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Speaker 4: and all sorts of woke stuff, the obsession with race,

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Speaker 4: the whole critical theory crowd.

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Speaker 3: And then you have this one. This is also Minneapolis

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Speaker 4: They have declared capitalism a pillar of white supremacy in

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Speaker 4: a required Ethnic studies class. Every kid has to take

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Speaker 4: this class and they are taught that capitalism are market

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Speaker 5: With the with the caveat we always throw in. Its

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Speaker 5: easier said than done. How do you keep your kid

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Speaker 5: in that freaking school? I know to learn?

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Speaker 3: Now? If you not? Only do I don't agree with

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Speaker 3: That's hate. I hate you. You're a bad person.

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Speaker 5: That's what I wanted to say to my son's history

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Speaker 3: You're a bad person.

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Speaker 5: You're actually damaging the country, you a whole well, a

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Speaker 5: lot of these people are actively damaging the country on purpose.

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Speaker 3: That's what they want to do.

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Speaker 4: They're they're useful idiots who think they're doing what's morally right.

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Speaker 3: Are just idiots. These people are awful.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, I think people who tend to be of

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Speaker 4: what you're saying is not true. Whereas people of a

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Speaker 3: The approval of people around them.

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Speaker 4: But people with a progressive Brent Bent heard all this

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Speaker 3: The propaganda worked on them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess I was going to be intellectually honest.

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Speaker 5: It's because they think they're helping a bad country by

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Speaker 4: They don't want think they're trying to destroy something that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you think it's a bad country, you should

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and the reason my kid is no longer in

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Speaker 3: That's the only thing they'd learned so far, right, which

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Speaker 5: And I don't want to be the kind of guy

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Speaker 5: can only date, you know, based on politics. I don't

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Speaker 5: want to live in that world. But based on this graph,

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Speaker 5: I might not have any choice. Right, how could I

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a tough situation. I'd be a heck

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, it would come up a lot,

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Speaker 3: That's wild.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. It's sick. It's I mean, and I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, these creators have found that their online audience is

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Speaker 4: but it's actually driven by a very real financial incentive.

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Speaker 4: Many content creators make their money on social media.

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Speaker 3: Here's how it works.

445
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Speaker 4: The algorithm feeds people content that's similar to what they

446
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Speaker 4: already like. If you find an audience and then rewards you. Oh,

447
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 4: it finds you an audience and then rewards you for

448
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Speaker 4: immensely for giving that audience exactly what they want. The

449
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Speaker 4: flip side is it penalizes you if you disappoint them.

450
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Speaker 4: Your viewership can be instantly crushed if you start upsetting

451
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Speaker 4: your audience with ideas they aren't expecting. YouTubers and TikTokers

452
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Speaker 4: are deeply connected to what their audience wants because their

453
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Speaker 4: entire livelihood depends on it.

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Speaker 5: I worry about my own algorithms, and I don't even

455
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Speaker 5: seek out content like that, But I know I'm being

456
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Speaker 5: fed stuff that.

457
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Speaker 3: Zuckerberg or you know.

458
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Speaker 5: Whoever's in charge at Google or whatever, that they think

459
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Speaker 5: I want, and so I miss out on other stuff.

460
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Speaker 5: I don't want to miss out on other stuff. I

461
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Speaker 5: want to see the other stuff. Some of it I

462
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Speaker 5: don't agree with, but I might.

463
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

464
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Speaker 5: I don't ever get to hear it because it's pigeonholed

465
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Speaker 5: me as a very specific sort of person right and

466
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Speaker 5: has only given me that stuff. And I wish, I

467
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Speaker 5: hope there's a platform that in the future lets you

468
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Speaker 5: flip off your algorithm when you want to, like what

469
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Speaker 5: else is going on in the world, Turn off my

470
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Speaker 5: algorithm and just give me what's popular for everyone, or

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Speaker 5: maybe you could choose other people's algorithms. Show me the

472
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Speaker 5: algorithm of somebody who is on Kamala Harris voter or whatever.

473
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Speaker 5: So I get different news because it really worries me

474
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Speaker 5: that that I'm being funneled stuff and I have no

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Speaker 5: control over it.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, exactly.

477
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Speaker 4: And we've talked in a lighthearted way about this too.

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Speaker 4: You know, when, for instance, my alma mater, the University

479
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Speaker 4: of Illinois, is playing good football, I'll click on college

480
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Speaker 4: football stories more. Then all of a sudden, my algorithms

481
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Speaker 4: act like I'm Dabo Sweeney himself, you know, some college

482
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Speaker 4: football coach, and I'll just get flooded with it. It's like,

483
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Speaker 4: leave me alone anyway. But ideologically is a much more

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Speaker 4: significant example. So final part of this. So oh, and

485
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Speaker 4: for what it's worth, and I don't want to sound

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Speaker 4: like I we are galloping along on a white horse

487
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Speaker 4: in shining armor, combination of age and you know, a

488
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Speaker 4: fair level of financial comfort. I couldn't give a crap

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Speaker 4: what people agree with or don't agree with. I am

490
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Speaker 4: going to speak the truth as I see it, period,

491
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Speaker 4: And you either appreciate that even if you disagree, and

492
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Speaker 4: my goodness, you're welcome to disagree. We can still be friends.

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Speaker 4: I will not do what's being described here. I find

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Speaker 4: it despicable. My sainted mother in heaven would be ashamed

495
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Speaker 4: of me if I did it, and that is a

496
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Speaker 4: far higher standard to me than what's in my bank

497
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 4: account anyway. So she describes how their entire livelihood depends

498
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Speaker 4: on pleasing their audience, that is, getting fed the algorithm

499
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Speaker 4: of what they already think, what they already believe. People

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Speaker 4: point to the millions of views popular podcasters get as

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Speaker 4: proof of their influence and relevance, but content creators are

502
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Speaker 4: deeply divorced from where the vast majority of Republicans and

503
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Speaker 4: conservatives are on many issues. And this is why they're

504
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Speaker 4: not reading the room. They're reading the comments section under

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Speaker 4: their videos, which are filled with people who do not

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Speaker 4: reflect the views of normal Americans.

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Speaker 5: You're right, it's a two way straight. It's bad for me.

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Speaker 5: What I was just saying that I don't want to

509
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Speaker 5: be fed just stuff that thinks the algorithm, and this

510
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Speaker 5: is what I'm interested in. But then me feeding back

511
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Speaker 5: to them is not good for them, right.

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Speaker 3: And let's see.

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Speaker 4: Oh, she mentions like even Kevin Roberts at the here

514
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Speaker 4: at his foundation, getting way off track and forgetting partly

515
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Speaker 4: that these platforms have global reach, so they look at

516
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Speaker 4: a YouTube video that has five million views and suddenly

517
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Speaker 4: think it means five million young American men agree with it,

518
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Speaker 4: and we must not anger the young men by suggesting

519
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Speaker 4: Hitler is bad. As she makes a great point, this

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Speaker 4: would be less infuriating if Trump hadn't just built the

521
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Speaker 4: most multi racial, working class coalition the Republican parties had

522
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Speaker 4: in generations, and many people are proud of it.

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Speaker 5: He's also Donald Trump the best friend Israel's ever had

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Speaker 5: for any US president.

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Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, and as a Jewish son in law and

526
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Speaker 4: his daughter converted right anyway, And she finally, she writes,

527
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Speaker 4: I've been hard to see how many Christians have stood

528
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Speaker 4: up and vocally denounced Fantes over the past week.

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Speaker 3: That's the way to keep.

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Speaker 4: Power, not with Nazis or those who would really rather

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Speaker 4: you didn't condemn them. Luckily, despite the best efforts of

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Speaker 4: some podcasters, the GOP seems to understand that now.

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Speaker 3: I certainly do.

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Speaker 5: Even as awful a human being as I think, Nick

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Speaker 5: Fuentes is spreading awful things, I don't want to be

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Speaker 5: unfair to him. So I'm gonna say I don't have

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Speaker 5: any idea if this next thing I'm about to say

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Speaker 5: is true or not this stuff I saw on Twitter,

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Speaker 5: but there seems to be an attempt to bring him down.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's got powerful enemies with some videos I

541
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Speaker 5: saw of him hobnobbin with dudes who want to have

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Speaker 5: sex with underage other dudes, and and saying some things

543
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Speaker 5: that at least it looked like the way they were

544
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Speaker 5: portrayed in these videos as him being pretty interested in

545
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Speaker 5: younger guys. Like I said, I don't have any idea

546
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Speaker 5: if these are AI creations or if they're true or not.

547
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Speaker 5: Even as bad as I think Nick Fuentes is, I

548
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Speaker 5: don't want to claim this if I don't know if

549
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Speaker 5: it's true, But there is that attempt out there to

550
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Speaker 5: make him that sort of person. Now, some of the

551
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Speaker 5: statements he's made about his sexuality and sex and everything

552
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Speaker 5: like that, it's pretty weird. Yeah, he's in a weird

553
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Speaker 5: He's in a weird place sexually.

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Speaker 4: He's an edge lord too. He's constantly saying things that

555
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Speaker 4: are meant to offend and shock.

556
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Speaker 3: So so what's his sex thing? He thinks all women are.

557
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Speaker 4: Yeah that he said the only really straight heterosexual position

558
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Speaker 4: is to be an asexual. In cell he refers to

559
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Speaker 4: himself as a Nazi, twink, submissive gay man. What's interesting

560
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Speaker 4: about the people trying to run him down. There's a

561
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Speaker 4: great piece in The Free Beacon about how the New

562
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Speaker 4: York Times we mean, yes, okay, attractive, Wow, swipe left

563
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Speaker 4: or right or whichever one it is. Well, what's interesting

564
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Speaker 4: is the Free Beacon as a terrific piece about how

565
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Speaker 4: the New York Times and others are trying to elevate

566
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Speaker 4: this guy because then they can They are go with

567
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Speaker 4: the narrative, the course, here's here's your conservative.

568
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Speaker 3: Wow. So that's the problem.

569
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Speaker 4: Like pictures that are touched up to make him look

570
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Speaker 4: extra handsome and cool in.

571
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Speaker 3: The New York Times.

572
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Speaker 5: Is there, My god, there's nobody with any integrity whatsoever.

573
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Speaker 3: So you're trying to elevate a Nazi.

574
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Speaker 5: And give him more of a platform, make him more money,

575
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 5: make him more popular, because you think ultimately that will

576
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Speaker 5: hurt the other side.

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Speaker 8: Right.

578
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Speaker 4: It's like if a guy like me gave five thousand

579
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Speaker 4: dollars to Donnie's campaign.

580
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Speaker 3: Man, you talk about that idea.

581
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Speaker 5: The force for the trees or whatever saying fits this,

582
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Speaker 5: but wow, cutting off your nose despite your face. I

583
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 5: know there's some saying that fits this situation. But I'm

584
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 5: not sure what it is you're cutting off the baby

585
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 5: to despite the bath.

586
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Speaker 3: Walk exactly, the cutting the loaf in half, I don't know.

587
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 3: The Armstrong and Getty Show.

588
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, ar Jack, your show podcasts and our Hot Lakes,

589
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Speaker 1: the Armstrong and Getty Show.

590
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Speaker 6: The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has opened an investigation

591
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Speaker 6: into Tesla's full self driving system. Officials now say they've

592
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Speaker 6: received more than fifty reports of traffic safety violations and

593
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Speaker 6: reports of several injuries.

594
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Speaker 3: That's interesting.

595
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Speaker 5: I have FSD in my newest Tesla, but the technology

596
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Speaker 5: has changed so much over the last five years that

597
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Speaker 5: I've been four years that I've been driving Tesla's some

598
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Speaker 5: of the older cars, I mean, are they all the

599
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Speaker 5: newer models.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's all so complicated.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if we'll ever reach full self driving

602
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Speaker 5: that insurance companies and states allow.

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Speaker 3: I really don't know if that'll ever happen. Hmmm. I

604
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Speaker 3: would guess yes, I mean, but I have no idea when.

605
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Speaker 5: What the existence of WAIMO you'd think is going to happen.

606
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Speaker 5: But that's a completely different model or way of doing it.

607
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Speaker 5: You can do it for an individual city where you

608
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Speaker 5: map every single sidewalk, alley, everything into the computer system

609
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Speaker 5: of that car. Can you do that for the whole

610
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Speaker 5: country to allow your or do you buy or do

611
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Speaker 5: you start buying cars that this car is just programmed

612
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Speaker 5: to drive in within fifty miles or where you live.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's the way it'll work.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm out of my depth there, Donnie. I was

615
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Speaker 4: reading about self piloting planes is almost certainly the future

616
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Speaker 4: in a lot of realms. But they point out that

617
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Speaker 4: the pilot reassures everybody when there's unexpected turribulence or you know,

618
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Speaker 4: just to if you're walking on the plane, you turn

619
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Speaker 4: left and there's nobody in the cockpit, you glance to

620
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Speaker 4: your left. That would freak people out. It would take

621
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Speaker 4: a long time to get consumer accepts, they were pointing out.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I would say, the self driving on my newest

623
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Speaker 5: vehicle is fantastic. It has never made a mistake as

624
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Speaker 5: far as I know, even close to it. It's better than

625
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Speaker 5: I am. Really, it can see things I can't see.

626
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Speaker 5: This is a very interesting story that we want to

627
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Speaker 5: touch on.

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Speaker 10: A frightening new prank taking over social media across TikTok.

629
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Speaker 10: People generating ai images of a stranger in their house

630
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Speaker 10: and then sending the photos to their loved ones. The

631
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Speaker 10: pranks as texting things like he says he knows you

632
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Speaker 10: and I told him he can take a nap, sending

633
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Speaker 10: their families into a panic, at times ending with police

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Speaker 10: knocking on their door.

635
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Speaker 8: Oh, I was just trying to mess with my mom,

636
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Speaker 8: and she took it seriously.

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Speaker 5: No calls are ranked and priority, and something like this

638
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Speaker 5: would be a high priority.

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Speaker 10: Police departments across the country saying they're getting nine to

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Speaker 10: one one calls from parents thinking their child is actually

641
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Speaker 10: in danger. Police issuing a warning to users that pulling

642
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Speaker 10: pranks like.

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Speaker 3: These that I'm just messing with you. It's ai.

644
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Speaker 4: Criminal charges you stupid, see unplug the Internet.

645
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Speaker 3: God, you are a freaking moron. I'm disappointed you're my child.

646
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Speaker 5: I better take a look at the way I invest

647
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 5: because I'm gonna be taking care of you for the

648
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Speaker 5: rest of my life, because you're too freaking stupid to exist,

649
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Speaker 5: I mean strong, Maybe, how can you.

650
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Speaker 3: Possibly think I know what I'll do.

651
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 5: I'll have my parents think a stranger has broken into

652
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Speaker 5: the house and I can't get him to leave.

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Speaker 3: That'll be funny.

654
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Speaker 5: God, you are an awful human being, or your brain

655
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Speaker 5: is broken.

656
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Speaker 4: Utterly lacking in judgment. Oh my god, yeah, that is

657
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Speaker 4: I terrific. How can a person be that blind?

658
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Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know. It's got to be small,

659
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Speaker 3: is it.

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Speaker 4: You know, kids are so easily led that they see

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Speaker 4: it online.

662
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Speaker 3: They're told it's funny.

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Speaker 4: They have no independent judgment because they're sheep issue, and

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