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Speaker 1: What time is it? Game time? What's up? Everybody? Welcome
Speaker 1: back to the show. I'm happy to have this incredible
Speaker 1: player back on the show. He was on the show
Speaker 1: when it was just a Draymond Green show. He haven't
Speaker 1: been on the show since it's been to Draymond Green
Speaker 1: with bead show.
Speaker 3: What's up? I done?
Speaker 1: I'm just chilling, brother. But like I said, I'm happy
Speaker 1: to have this next guest. I've had the honor of
Speaker 1: playing against this next guest in a playoff series, which,
Speaker 1: amongst a lot of people always create beef. With this guy,
Speaker 1: it's just a lot of love and we compete and
Speaker 1: we talk. He talked on the court way more than
Speaker 1: y'all know he talk. He never makes it too hobbyist,
Speaker 1: but he talked way more than y'all know. He talked. Uh.
Speaker 1: He's an All star. He's a clutch player of the
Speaker 1: year in my opinion, definitely the fastest point guard in
Speaker 1: the league. You can argue with Yourbama. That's just how
Speaker 1: I feel. Uh, But none another the one and only
Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings All Star guard de Aaron Fox.
Speaker 4: What that player, y'all? Man, I appreciate y'all having me brother.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sir, you you rich rich. Two Christmas trees that brother.
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 5: We got five, Oh my god, we got We got
Speaker 5: in the living room and then we got three in
Speaker 5: the four year.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like you love a Christmas fair. We gotta
Speaker 3: sing some black sent a gear compliments of me and
Speaker 3: j Mon.
Speaker 5: My birthday five days, five days before Christmas. So I
Speaker 5: love I love the season.
Speaker 1: My son December twenty Yeah, he right there. Yeah sir,
Speaker 1: Happy holidays, my brother, Happy holidays.
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan man. You are actually my youngest
Speaker 3: son's favorite player. I don't know if you remember when
Speaker 3: we came to Sacramento. I came to a Sacramento game.
Speaker 3: I think Rico was coaching at the time, but we
Speaker 3: just flew up to see. My son wanted to see
Speaker 3: you play, and when he met you, he was done.
Speaker 3: He wanted to fly back to La so.
Speaker 1: Con.
Speaker 5: Plus, just Rico got a lot of great things to
Speaker 5: say about you.
Speaker 4: And you talk about you all the time.
Speaker 3: Oh man, that's my dog. Shout out to Rico Hans,
Speaker 3: but he had none but great stuff to say. Your
Speaker 3: work ethic, you know how much you were a dog.
Speaker 3: And when my youngest son was like, yo, Dad, that's
Speaker 3: my favorite player, I was like, how do you know him?
Speaker 3: He said, I watch I watch him, And I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: let me start tapping in you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Because I was mad at you from the U c
Speaker 3: l A like that, So I was holding the gruss bro.
Speaker 3: But I you know why, I just love your game.
Speaker 3: Everything you bring to the NBA being tagged the fastest
Speaker 3: player in the league is you know one thing I
Speaker 3: think for you, uh when I watch it, it's just
Speaker 3: your overall leadership. Can you just talk to us about
Speaker 3: just the evolution you know what I mean of Deannon Fox,
Speaker 3: you know, and still being with the same organizations, so
Speaker 3: the trials and tribulations, Yeah, you know that you have
Speaker 3: to go through to get where you are.
Speaker 5: One like coming in Like when I got drafted, Kings
Speaker 5: had already missed.
Speaker 4: The playoffs for eleven years, right, so already I noticed.
Speaker 4: But I tried.
Speaker 5: I tried not to let that, you know, be be
Speaker 5: the weight on my shoulders, like it's not my fault,
Speaker 5: Like I wasn't in the league when they was when
Speaker 5: they was missing the playoffs, So uh, coming in on that,
Speaker 5: I was pretty much I was starting behind a lot
Speaker 5: of like guys that was in my draft, Like Markel
Speaker 5: went to Philly. Philly had already had Ben and Joel,
Speaker 5: so they were up and coming. Boston was already in
Speaker 5: the conference finals, I think the year before we got drafted.
Speaker 5: So JT's going to a good spot. Phoenix is obviously building,
Speaker 5: La was building, and I'm like, the Kings had already
Speaker 5: promised me, like, yo, if you're at five, we're taking you.
Speaker 5: So I already knew I was going there, so coming
Speaker 5: in like I knew that it was gonna be a challenge.
Speaker 5: But as the years kind of went through went by,
Speaker 5: I'm like, how can I get better? How can I
Speaker 5: get stronger? How can I possibly get more athletic and
Speaker 5: things like that. So just going into every season, I
Speaker 5: started to learn the game. And I tell kids all
Speaker 5: the time, you playing from high school to college wasn't
Speaker 5: a jump for me at all. And obviously we see
Speaker 5: a lot of one it done and some people do
Speaker 5: take longer, but a lot of one it done is
Speaker 5: because that game ain't that different. But then you go
Speaker 5: from college to the NBA where you're seventeen, eighteen nineteen.
Speaker 5: Now you're playing against grown men who feed their families
Speaker 5: with game. And I learned that real real quick, with
Speaker 5: how how serious that this is taken. And uh, it
Speaker 5: took me time to get adjusted. But once I got
Speaker 5: adjusted to it, I feel like I've continued to get
Speaker 5: better and I feel like this guy's limit.
Speaker 4: And then just with leadership man.
Speaker 5: Playing with so many guys like there's been I don't
Speaker 5: know how many players I'm in your eight I don't
Speaker 5: know how many guys from like my second year team
Speaker 5: that are still in the league. So being able to
Speaker 5: see that revolving door of how many people have come
Speaker 5: in and out, I'm like, continue to step my game
Speaker 5: up too. I got to continue to be a professional
Speaker 5: in three Once my game, Once I start getting older
Speaker 5: and my game starts to you know, windo, everybody slows
Speaker 5: down at.
Speaker 4: Some point, what can keep me in the league?
Speaker 5: And that's kind of now, I don't I mean, i
Speaker 5: feel like I'm still getting better.
Speaker 4: Obviously I'm only twenty.
Speaker 5: Seven, but that that leadership role play, but that that
Speaker 5: leadership role and if I'm not playing that many minutes
Speaker 5: or if I'm not playing at all, how can I.
Speaker 4: Help the team?
Speaker 5: And I feel like like with my voice and with
Speaker 5: my knowledge, I feel like I'm starting to kind of
Speaker 5: turn that corner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I also think you turned in the corner as
Speaker 3: far as just being you know a lot of people,
Speaker 3: Oh it's speed, it's speedy to speed. You've been able
Speaker 3: to kind of like now become a pace chance.
Speaker 5: Because ever, whenever y'all actually said that I was gonna
Speaker 5: be like, I think I played with pace more than
Speaker 5: I'm just running.
Speaker 4: Fast, big y'all. I appreciate that pace is that big thing.
Speaker 5: For me, because yeah, sure I can continue to run
Speaker 5: one hundred miles per hour, but who is that helping? Like,
Speaker 5: that's not helping, it's helping my team, and I'm just
Speaker 5: getting tired while I'm doing it. So at pace, being
Speaker 5: able to play with pace while being extremely fast, extremely quick,
Speaker 5: I feel like has really taken my game to the
Speaker 5: next level.
Speaker 1: That's a fact because you could turn the jets on
Speaker 1: whatever you want to, and when you turn it on,
Speaker 1: when you play with the pace like you play at now,
Speaker 1: when you turn the jets on, it's almost like, damn it,
Speaker 1: I forgot he was that fast, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: But for someone who just gives you that all the time.
Speaker 5: He's just like, like, you can game planning for speed,
Speaker 5: like that's at a certain point.
Speaker 1: If you're just gonna be fast, you can game plan
Speaker 1: for that. But when you are fast and you got
Speaker 1: that change the pace how you like i'd say fifty percent.
Speaker 1: And you're one of those fast, super athletic people, so like, yeah,
Speaker 1: your your fast walkers.
Speaker 5: People be like, yo, you don't understand how fast you're moving.
Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, run your.
Speaker 1: Fast walk is like a really hard job. And so
Speaker 1: I feel like you spend most of your time at
Speaker 1: that speed.
Speaker 4: And then yeah, I mean honestly all honestly, I would
Speaker 4: say like maybe two or three times in a game
Speaker 4: like with the ball, I'm really sprinting.
Speaker 3: But oh yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't. I
Speaker 3: see you go. I see you playing like you go
Speaker 3: from thirty to six eighty seventy, Like even in the
Speaker 3: half court. I think your game is evolved being able
Speaker 3: to play isolation and off the pick and roll and
Speaker 3: be able to wait and then take the accep like
Speaker 3: you can go zero to sixty faster than anybody, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. And so I feel like you've
Speaker 3: learned how to go thirty, zero to thirty, then thirty
Speaker 3: to sixty before anybody can get catch up to you.
Speaker 3: And I think that's really been the evolution of like
Speaker 3: your pick and roll game, your ISO game. So it's
Speaker 3: not even like you're not even going fast no more,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You just you move fast,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like you move faster. Moves
Speaker 3: are much faster, they're more precise, and I think you
Speaker 3: know that's why you are the clutch player of the year.
Speaker 3: Right you're getting fouled, you know how to get fouled.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: It's just great to say, and it took a lot
Speaker 4: of time to learn that.
Speaker 5: Like, like you said, man, with a lot of guys
Speaker 5: who are faster or more athletic than everybody that they've
Speaker 5: played against up until a certain point, It's like, what's
Speaker 5: gonna separate you when you get to the top, because
Speaker 5: like guys like Zion, Yeah, Zion is going to be
Speaker 5: that you know, zero point one percent of guys who
Speaker 5: can be the most athletic in high school go into
Speaker 5: college be the most athletic, and then go into the
Speaker 5: NBA and you're still the most athletic, But it's not
Speaker 5: many guys that's like that. So it's like, what can
Speaker 5: what can you? How can you separate yourself in terms
Speaker 5: of your athleticism or you know, whatever gift that you
Speaker 5: were given, try to evolve that. And I feel like
Speaker 5: that's what I've done, and like continuing to try to do,
Speaker 5: continue to work at, continue.
Speaker 4: To try to be in control of how fast you're moving.
Speaker 5: And I think that's where you know a lot of
Speaker 5: guys who you know, I was either one compared to
Speaker 5: or guys who've come in after me that were compared
Speaker 5: to me where they were super athletic, but then you
Speaker 5: see them in two three years and they're and they're gone,
Speaker 5: and it's like, well this guy stick, It's like, well
Speaker 5: he was just fast.
Speaker 4: You couldn't play. He wasn't a basketball player, he was
Speaker 4: an athlete, or he was just quick.
Speaker 5: So that's why I feel like I'm trying to separate myself,
Speaker 5: and I feel like people who just think I'm I'm
Speaker 5: just speed haven't watched me play in a very long time.
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Speaker 1: Now, obviously you can't teach that speed, But aside from
Speaker 1: your pace and what you ultimately picked up, what would
Speaker 1: you say is the and since coming into the league
Speaker 1: and you talked about like your jump from college, from
Speaker 1: from high school to college and then you jumped from
Speaker 1: college to the NBA was way more drastic. What was
Speaker 1: the number one thing outside of the pace that you
Speaker 1: say you had to improve in order to become the
Speaker 1: All star and the face of the franchise that you've
Speaker 1: become like guys that get drafted where you get drafted,
Speaker 1: become the face of the franchise initially, let's face it
Speaker 1: are the face of the franchise for a long time
Speaker 1: to be able to sustain that, what was the thing
Speaker 1: outside is just the place that you had to improve
Speaker 1: the most.
Speaker 5: I would say one physicality, like like I was a
Speaker 5: skinny guy coming into a grown man's league. And two
Speaker 5: is the understanding of the game, playing an entirely different game.
Speaker 5: So like from your one year two, I feel like
Speaker 5: I made a really big jump, And I think from
Speaker 5: year two on one and upward, I feel like I've
Speaker 5: constantly just gotten better, but the jumps haven't been as
Speaker 5: drastic from my first year.
Speaker 4: So that's that was that was really the biggest thing.
Speaker 5: Like I said, man, you're playing you're playing basketball, but
Speaker 5: you're playing a whole different sports.
Speaker 4: Than you playing in college. Like this is entire sports.
Speaker 5: And once you actually learn it and you start to
Speaker 5: really understand the game, even if you're not the most
Speaker 5: athletic or you don't shoot the best, understanding the game
Speaker 5: can keep you on the court and can keep you
Speaker 5: in the league for a real long time. And I
Speaker 5: feel like that's that's what Like is that ton of
Speaker 5: was that that switch?
Speaker 3: Yeah? For sure. I feel like my rookie year was
Speaker 3: like you walk in and everything is the first time,
Speaker 3: so you don't really have a feel. But the second year,
Speaker 3: like you remember how you felt walking in all those arenas,
Speaker 3: and like, now I got to change my approach. So
Speaker 3: when you say that drastic leap, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I think that's like every point guard has to go
Speaker 3: through that, you know what I'm saying in order to understand, like, Okay,
Speaker 3: where do I fit in? And how am I going
Speaker 3: to build my game and get better and like people
Speaker 3: understand who I am and learn how to you know,
Speaker 3: play my style to play.
Speaker 5: Sometimes sometimes you got to get thrown in the fire.
Speaker 5: But hey, everybody can't handle the fires.
Speaker 4: Like that's why it's a revolving door.
Speaker 5: You see dudes in here for a year maybe two,
Speaker 5: and they disappear and we all wondering where it at
Speaker 5: because they couldn't couldn't handle what goes on in this league.
Speaker 3: Facts, that is big. Facts.
Speaker 1: Last week, Well, first off, before I moved to the question,
Speaker 1: congratulations and what I'm saying congratulations to last week your
Speaker 1: first signature shoe, the Fox one Drop, which, as we
Speaker 1: all know, it's not a small feat in the NBA.
Speaker 1: Everybody think like just happened, Like your own shoe is, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, coming into the league, you think like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's just what it's gonna be. Man, that as hard
Speaker 1: as hell to do. You know, you your your first
Speaker 1: shoe release last week. Just what did it mean to you?
Speaker 1: You know, your your first shoe release, Fox one under
Speaker 1: Curry brand. I know, Steph, it's one of your favorite
Speaker 1: players coming up. Like what just what did it all
Speaker 1: mean to you? And how did it get done? You
Speaker 1: know if you ultimately I think leaving Nike and then
Speaker 1: become a Curry brand and under armor and signing under
Speaker 1: Curry brand, which I think is.
Speaker 4: It was it was. I mean, it meant the world.
Speaker 5: Man, It's it's nothing like it, like you said, like
Speaker 5: people people think that one that that stuff just happens,
Speaker 5: but especially coming from a brand like that who's been
Speaker 5: around and touching every single sport, Like, it's not you know,
Speaker 5: I ain't throwing shots at people, like when you have
Speaker 5: those smaller brands who just give you know, if they
Speaker 5: signed a NBA player, they're gonna give them a shoot.
Speaker 4: Like it's not saying.
Speaker 5: This is a brand that's been around for decades and
Speaker 5: a lot of things.
Speaker 4: So uh, just being able to be a part of
Speaker 4: that is a blessing man.
Speaker 3: And uh then.
Speaker 5: Doing it under steps brand and being that first the
Speaker 5: first player that was that was big for me.
Speaker 4: So like for me, at the end was it was
Speaker 4: Curry Brand, it was a New Balance. Those are the two.
Speaker 5: And New Balance actually offered me more, but Curry Brand
Speaker 5: offered me a sick So I'm like, okay, I'm not
Speaker 5: hard on money.
Speaker 4: I'm good shoot and stuff. So I'm like, like, you know,
Speaker 4: we continue.
Speaker 5: To get back and where we were we had just
Speaker 5: played in the playoffs, so I'm like, okay, like rejection,
Speaker 5: Hopefully we can keep this thing going.
Speaker 4: And now you know, you can play on TV more,
Speaker 4: you get seen, more shoe sells going.
Speaker 5: So that's the way I'm thinking. And uh, and I
Speaker 5: loved I loved playing in Steps, man. I played in
Speaker 5: Steps think about seventy five percent of the season that
Speaker 5: I was a sneaker free agent.
Speaker 4: So so I love the product, like and I told.
Speaker 5: Him that whenever we started talking about it, and uh,
Speaker 5: and we started talking about having deals, like, I love
Speaker 5: the product first and foremost, and that's kind of how
Speaker 5: it started. And it was super organ and going through
Speaker 5: it and obviously you know stuff. And uh, he's hitting
Speaker 5: me like, bro, like it's so dope that you're doing
Speaker 5: this because not many guys would do it.
Speaker 4: And I told yeah, him at the end of the
Speaker 4: day that at the end of the day, Bro, I'm
Speaker 4: helping you with your brand, but you're also helping me
Speaker 4: with my brand. Like I feel like where it's working
Speaker 4: on both ways, on both sides, and.
Speaker 5: You have a mutual respect where people when we're playing
Speaker 5: in the playoffs, people are like, bro, you can't wear his.
Speaker 4: Shoe while you're playing against him, Like why the fun
Speaker 4: not like.
Speaker 5: One say we beat y'all, and now everybody like, oh
Speaker 5: you got beat and somebody somebody had your shoes on.
Speaker 5: So like it can work ways. Obviously, you know, I
Speaker 5: don't care what people got to say. They're not sitting
Speaker 5: business meetings, they don't know, they don't know what's really
Speaker 5: going on, and they can sit there and be like, oh,
Speaker 5: his his mark, his team shouldn't have had him do that.
Speaker 4: It's like, bro, you're getting paid millions of dollars to.
Speaker 8: Put a shoe on for one like all y'all would
Speaker 8: do it if y'all ain't that bad and.
Speaker 3: To sue you who I love to be.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, I'm getting paid to do that, Like
Speaker 5: who wouldn't do that? But no, that the sneaker release, Man,
Speaker 5: it's been dope. When me and steph Are in China.
Speaker 5: He saw him for the first time.
Speaker 4: He loved him. Uh So it's it's been a dope.
Speaker 5: Process, bro, And I like, I wouldn't I wouldn't change
Speaker 5: what we did for the world.
Speaker 3: How how is a sneaker free agency? Talk to me
Speaker 3: about the pre agency process. I mean, you touched on it.
Speaker 3: He was just rocking what you wanted. But like when
Speaker 3: you're going through this siding, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: it's not always about the money, right is what is
Speaker 3: it more? What does it mean more for you in
Speaker 3: your legacy.
Speaker 5: So whenever I was going through it, obviously I was
Speaker 5: with Nike. I was with Nike in my first five years,
Speaker 5: and whenever I was coming whenever the year was coming up,
Speaker 5: all season I was, I was working out and whatever
Speaker 5: I can get my hands on, So like rebokalsing and stuff,
Speaker 5: Nike still.
Speaker 4: Sent like that. I think this was at the g
Speaker 4: T two GT cut two's under armors and stuff, das
Speaker 4: and stuff. Converse.
Speaker 5: I played in convers a lot actually during that season too,
Speaker 5: and for me, it was like what feels the best?
Speaker 5: And then it was like, Okay, what does the money
Speaker 5: look like? Does this does this company offering me, you know,
Speaker 5: this much more outweigh how I feel about their product,
Speaker 5: and that's kind of what was how kind of going.
Speaker 5: And then once I got to it, it was I was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm kind of done with Nike at this point.
Speaker 4: They offered me the same.
Speaker 5: Contract, which was good contract, but I'm like, I just
Speaker 5: want to go in a different direction, and so I was.
Speaker 4: Pretty much off them. Then I started seeing my Nike
Speaker 4: rep everywhere.
Speaker 1: I'm like, God, I'm.
Speaker 4: Like, bro, se y'all more than I did when I
Speaker 4: was with y'all. I'm like, no, it's just too late.
Speaker 5: And then they actually offered me more and I'm like, nah, bro,
Speaker 5: just I want to go a different direction. And it
Speaker 5: was what it was like, no hard feelings. I like,
Speaker 5: you know, I'll talk to y'all when I see y'all,
Speaker 5: but I just wanted to go out in a different direction.
Speaker 5: And that's kind of how I came to those last two.
Speaker 1: When you talk about your shoe, what's you know, just
Speaker 1: as a consumer, what comes different with the Fox one
Speaker 1: than the other signature shoes that were already out there.
Speaker 5: I think one is we wanted to do a shoe
Speaker 5: that was more like a running shoot. I don't know
Speaker 5: if y'all see like the A six and like the Dads, that's.
Speaker 4: Kind of what's popular right now.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, I want to get a shoe that
Speaker 5: even if somebody don't hoop, they could throw them on,
Speaker 5: you know, go for a run, go work out in them.
Speaker 5: My boy Reno's like, I'm wearing these with jeans. He's like,
Speaker 5: your shoe need to come out so I can stop wearing.
Speaker 4: All these other shoes. We wanted a shoe that could
Speaker 4: do it both ways. And it's kind of like bookshoe.
Speaker 4: Like bookshoe looked.
Speaker 5: Like it's not a basketball shoe, but you can go
Speaker 5: out and hoop in it. And that's kind of the
Speaker 5: that we were that I was trying to go.
Speaker 1: That's definitely the waves right now to run shoes. When
Speaker 1: we were coming up, it's like, you really wore hoop shoes.
Speaker 5: Hoop shoes, yeah, yeah, like when we were Yeah, like
Speaker 5: when I was you know, middle school, high school, people
Speaker 5: throwing on bronze KD.
Speaker 4: Kobe's with.
Speaker 5: Your cargos whatever, whatever type of pants she was wearing,
Speaker 5: people threw it on like that. So that was my
Speaker 5: thought process because everybody don't hoop, yeah, that was my
Speaker 5: thought process going into it.
Speaker 3: Man, back to back nights, you scored one hundred and
Speaker 3: nine points, sixty in the first game, forty nine in
Speaker 3: the second game. That makes you the first King player
Speaker 3: ever to score sixty in the game, and one hundred
Speaker 3: and nine points and two nights is the most in
Speaker 3: the NBA since A Mamba Kobe Bryant in twenty h seven.
Speaker 3: Can you describe the feeling of the sixty point game
Speaker 3: then coming back and getting a forty nine piece?
Speaker 4: Oh sixty, Man, I was so tired. I was so
Speaker 4: tired because we was already missing the league.
Speaker 5: Debo went down in the first half, and the second
Speaker 5: half was like, was back me and Domos, But I
Speaker 5: had it going, So Domos was coming up, cracking whoever
Speaker 5: was guarding me, and pretty much going downhill most of
Speaker 5: the night. Now it was it was a crazy like
Speaker 5: we was down twenty two. Actually we was down twenty.
Speaker 5: We had to come back and we had a chance
Speaker 5: to win the game in regulation, and I think I
Speaker 5: would have if I would have scored, I think I
Speaker 5: would have ended like fifty one or something like that.
Speaker 5: And he ended up not getting the rebound. They get
Speaker 5: an offensive rebound and they get the last shot. So
Speaker 5: I was like, bro, I was, I don't even want.
Speaker 4: To get sixty.
Speaker 5: Walked up to me in the fourth quarter and was like, yo,
Speaker 5: you might as well get sixty. And I think I
Speaker 5: had like forty seven or something at the time, so.
Speaker 4: I was hoping tonight even have that chance.
Speaker 5: But we end up losing the game, Like you didn't
Speaker 5: even feel like like I couldn't even like obviously I
Speaker 5: still felt good like scoring sixty eight.
Speaker 4: No, you know that's not but you lost.
Speaker 5: So it's like, bro, I can't even really celebrate this
Speaker 5: like how I want to.
Speaker 4: So that was that.
Speaker 5: Was That was the rough part about the night. I
Speaker 5: would have loved to have won that game, and like you,
Speaker 5: I wouldn't have took the little picture with the white paper.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't have did that. That feeling, and then that
Speaker 5: second one dog, I ended up missing three of my
Speaker 5: last five free throws. Crazy enough, when I have forty nine,
Speaker 5: I was at forty seven. I missed two free throws.
Speaker 5: Then I end up getting fouled again because they were
Speaker 5: playing a foul game, and then I made my That's
Speaker 5: how I got to forty nine. So Debo walked up
Speaker 5: and he was like, Bro, what you.
Speaker 4: Just start shaking his head and walk and walk to
Speaker 4: the locker room.
Speaker 1: You don't, no, not at all.
Speaker 5: And then I find out that Cob had one ten
Speaker 5: and everybody's talking about one on nine, one on one
Speaker 5: one or note.
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, one on nine seem like it's so
Speaker 4: far away from one tent.
Speaker 5: And I just had That's funny.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Cob and Depot, man, what's it been like
Speaker 1: playing with Deepot? You obviously have played against him. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's been in the West, you know, then he went
Speaker 1: to the East for a couple of years. But what's
Speaker 1: it been like having him as a teammate. What's you know,
Speaker 1: What's something about his game that you know, maybe you
Speaker 1: didn't know from playing from Afar that you've been able
Speaker 1: to see with just having him as a teammate.
Speaker 4: One, just his presence, bro, Like just being around him one.
Speaker 5: And off the court, just just a calm presence that
Speaker 5: he brings to a team into a locker room, It's
Speaker 5: like it's like a.
Speaker 4: Feeling that you just have never had.
Speaker 5: And then having him out there on the court, like
Speaker 5: y'all can go through dry spells and you can just give.
Speaker 4: Him the ball and he just go get one.
Speaker 5: Create like but like you said, create like, he creates
Speaker 5: so many opportunities for everybody else as well, because people
Speaker 5: are like, oh, yeah, we don't want to give up
Speaker 5: a midi.
Speaker 4: But then you start sitting doubles.
Speaker 5: At him, and he's such a weapon passing and he's
Speaker 5: so willing to get off the ball. He makes it
Speaker 5: easy for everybody else. And then one thing, dog when
Speaker 5: I say it seemed it looked like he walked to
Speaker 5: his spot. Like at times he literally will walk to
Speaker 5: a spot and just shoot over you like you're not
Speaker 5: even standing there.
Speaker 4: So at times at times and he just scored, Uh
Speaker 4: I think he just scored his twenty four thousand point
Speaker 4: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 4: It's amazing to watch, Like he'll he'll run off five
Speaker 4: possessions in the road. Just give it to him. And
Speaker 4: people he just get to a spot, rise up, you
Speaker 4: gotta follow him.
Speaker 5: He'll get to the free throw line shooting twelve fourteen
Speaker 5: free throws, and he just makes the game look that
Speaker 5: much easier. And it's it's crazy to see because obviously,
Speaker 5: like as you're getting older, you know, you don't have
Speaker 5: the athleticism that you had but he still go out there,
Speaker 5: he'll make a super athletic play, but then he come
Speaker 5: back and it's just real calm, real study, and he's
Speaker 5: able to do it over and over again. And just
Speaker 5: that consistency that he's done it with and how long
Speaker 5: he's been playing man is is amazing. You see why
Speaker 5: he's been in the league for I think it's his
Speaker 5: sixteenth year.
Speaker 3: Damn, that's ego. He wanted them, one of them. I remember.
Speaker 3: I remember seeing him like dunking, like when he was
Speaker 3: first dunk in the year he was first dunking and
Speaker 3: everybody was talking about he was dunking it eighth grade,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So like sixteen, just the skill, bro the skill that
Speaker 5: you got to have to like twenty four to be
Speaker 5: able to do as athletic.
Speaker 4: I see was at a certain time and you you're sixteen,
Speaker 4: not as athletic, and you still doing that type of stuff.
Speaker 4: Like it is amazing to see.
Speaker 3: Footwork ile Man another great player you play with with
Speaker 3: great footwork. Sa Bonus is basically a double double every night.
Speaker 3: I think he's highly underrated. I'm sure you do tell
Speaker 3: us about you know what it means to play with
Speaker 3: somebody likes the bonus.
Speaker 4: I think I think he's like you said, I think
Speaker 4: he's very underrated, very unappreciated, underappreciated.
Speaker 5: But I think so like the way he's playing this
Speaker 5: year and the way he's shooting the ball, We're like, bro,
Speaker 5: you don't even like we're not asking to come off
Speaker 5: down screens or you know, shoot off the drib or
Speaker 5: anything like that, but we just need people to respect
Speaker 5: it because and I told him this, like whenever I
Speaker 5: started shooting the ball better, and people have to take
Speaker 5: one step.
Speaker 4: We have to take one step.
Speaker 5: Up on you and opens the court up for yourself
Speaker 5: and everybody else. And we tell him, bro, don't hesitate,
Speaker 5: if you got it, shoot it, let it fly.
Speaker 4: Because he's shooting. I think he's he's like fifty forty
Speaker 4: and like eighty five right now. So like, if we
Speaker 4: can do that, continue to get him. But it's all
Speaker 4: coming from very quality looks.
Speaker 5: Uh, continue to do that, like I think the sky's
Speaker 5: limit for him and the sky's limit for us, because
Speaker 5: then you pull the big out a little bit longer,
Speaker 5: a little bit more. Now that creates driving lanes. We're
Speaker 5: able to put teams in rotations, and it just makes
Speaker 5: our offense that much better. But uh, he knows as
Speaker 5: well as we know where we have to be better
Speaker 5: at if we want to get to where we can
Speaker 5: to where we want to get to.
Speaker 4: And Dre know it. We got to be better defensive
Speaker 4: of its never been our problems. Offense has never been
Speaker 4: our problem. And you talked about it. I think you're
Speaker 4: talking about.
Speaker 5: Indiana last year, Like, yeah, y'all the number one offense,
Speaker 5: but you can't guard a soul getting the playoffs?
Speaker 4: Like what's this going to look like? So that's that's
Speaker 4: my thought. That's about it. We know, we know how
Speaker 4: where we got to be. It's funny though. It's funny though.
Speaker 5: So we just played San Antonio, right and we come
Speaker 5: out half time and I'm picking CP up and c
Speaker 5: you know, Cepa asshole so here like he don't care
Speaker 5: to come, nothing like that, but he walks up to me.
Speaker 5: He like, yo, you're you like the only point guard
Speaker 5: that actually plays defense like that, actually come and guards me,
Speaker 5: Come pick me up, and like at the time, I
Speaker 5: like yo, whatever like he said it. But then you know,
Speaker 5: after the game and then he just became the second
Speaker 5: leading assistant ever, I'm like knowing CP. He don't just
Speaker 5: walk up to nobody and just give him a compliment
Speaker 5: like that. I'm like, he really, he really felt that,
Speaker 5: And for me, like, I want to be that type
Speaker 5: of guy. I want to be able to out there
Speaker 5: guard people, be the guy that people don't want to
Speaker 5: put you in the action because you blow actions up
Speaker 5: and then at the end of the days still on
Speaker 5: offense being able to get to work.
Speaker 4: So I really did appreciate that.
Speaker 3: That's fire.
Speaker 1: You know you want me to tell you what I
Speaker 1: fucking hate Fox. I hate that damn bean.
Speaker 3: Them.
Speaker 1: I hate the bean. It discuss me and I get
Speaker 1: I get great joy out of when we play all
Speaker 1: in the bean does not get lit.
Speaker 3: Have you seen it?
Speaker 1: Of course I've seen it, and in a playoff series
Speaker 1: against you and had to go back to the hotel
Speaker 1: and look at it till three o'clock into that corner.
Speaker 3: That's ridiculous. I hate that. How did they.
Speaker 1: Introduce that beam to you? Did they come to you
Speaker 1: with the idea?
Speaker 3: Did they light it?
Speaker 1: And y'all was like no, Like what did you think
Speaker 1: of it? At first? Initially?
Speaker 3: So this was so not last year.
Speaker 5: The year before the year we actually made the playoffs,
Speaker 5: we were playing in the preseason and like they never
Speaker 5: said anything about it, and we're playing in LA. We
Speaker 5: ended up beating the Lakers, but I think we lost
Speaker 5: our first preseason game, so like no one knew anything
Speaker 5: about it, and during the preseason game we won and
Speaker 5: they just tweeted like the being and then it was
Speaker 5: a picture of a beam coming out the top of
Speaker 5: Golden and one. So that's how we, like we learned
Speaker 5: about it the same way everybody else learned about it.
Speaker 5: And at first, like it was a gimmick and everybody
Speaker 5: was like, oh, how long is this going to last?
Speaker 5: And then it started becoming a thing. Fans really started
Speaker 5: liking it, and other people started hating it. So I
Speaker 5: think that was the reason that they really kept it,
Speaker 5: is because other people started hating it. Everybody's like, oh,
Speaker 5: it's a gimmick, blah blah blah. But I think it's
Speaker 5: been dope, Like it's it's a cool thing. Like you
Speaker 5: drive around the city and you go to a random
Speaker 5: restaurant and they got some type of beer called the
Speaker 5: Beam where they got a poster with the damn.
Speaker 4: Beam on it.
Speaker 5: So it's been cool for the city and like obviously
Speaker 5: we have the baseball team here this year and we
Speaker 5: have a we just got an MLS team, but like,
Speaker 5: for as long as people can remember, it's just been
Speaker 5: the Kings. So being able to have that for a
Speaker 5: city that only had one professional team has been dope.
Speaker 5: And I think it just brings the city together. So
Speaker 5: if other people hate it, man, that may that makes
Speaker 5: me like it even more.
Speaker 3: When the Kings win.
Speaker 5: And other stadiums, like our fans are there and we're
Speaker 5: about to win the games about the end, we start
Speaker 5: getting those like the beam chance and it's dope.
Speaker 4: It's definitely dope.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: That's better feeling, uh going back to my hotel room
Speaker 1: and getting my stuff and looking over there and said
Speaker 1: we wanted to sit.
Speaker 3: Was it was fun? Man?
Speaker 4: Like I gotta just get back to the playoffs.
Speaker 5: And obviously you know you won multiple championships and got
Speaker 5: even even got into the finals lost, Like I want
Speaker 5: to be able to just feel that, like know what
Speaker 5: that feeling is, just being able.
Speaker 4: To get to that spot.
Speaker 3: One of my favorite coaches and people, Mike Brown. In
Speaker 3: this game, he repeated the word possession twenty six times
Speaker 3: in his last press conference, what's the wildest thing you've
Speaker 3: seen from Mike Brown as a coach and the Jay.
Speaker 3: That question is for you too.
Speaker 5: I would say it's the clip that everybody saw when
Speaker 5: he was talking about turn on the jets.
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, he started running. I'm like, I hope
Speaker 4: he don't tear something.
Speaker 5: I just hoot something, don't pop because he was moving
Speaker 5: like he was running as hard as he could and
Speaker 5: he ran one one sprint.
Speaker 4: He only did it one tongue and start coming down.
Speaker 4: But but like that was that was his first training
Speaker 4: camp with us, and he set the tonge.
Speaker 3: He definitely that's.
Speaker 1: The fact when I saw when I saw that clip,
Speaker 1: I was dying laughing because that's who Mike Brown is.
Speaker 1: Like he gone start running, getting out on defense, start sliding,
Speaker 1: dripping sweat, and that's just the passion he brings every day.
Speaker 1: Like he the same way every single day, and so
Speaker 1: I always respected it.
Speaker 4: It's crazy playing defense when we're just doing regular shooting drills.
Speaker 4: He started coming in.
Speaker 3: Like kick it. Like really.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. We used to be like, yo, might
Speaker 1: be you need to chill broking. He's like you, oh,
Speaker 1: Mike be like you ain't working out, Like yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta chill. But like that's just the intensity that he brings.
Speaker 1: And you got to learn out of about Mike Brown.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, I'm surprised that I'm surprised the
Speaker 1: thing that y'all have struggled with as a teams defense
Speaker 1: because Mike Brown with defense, like that's what he do,
Speaker 1: like he guru, and so I know him be driving
Speaker 1: him crazy. So you you gotta challenge, You gotta just
Speaker 1: on y'all as players, because Mike Brown, I know he
Speaker 1: los there.
Speaker 5: He lost whatever hair he had left wherever it is. No,
Speaker 5: it's I mean, obviously, I think personnel is a thing.
Speaker 4: Like we're one of those smaller teams.
Speaker 5: Obviously we don't have a legit shot blocker, so like
Speaker 5: you're fighting against kind of construction like you can't. Obviously,
Speaker 5: you're only as good as your personnel a lot of
Speaker 5: the time. So for us, you know, we throw out
Speaker 5: different things in different looks, try to, you know, mut
Speaker 5: the game up, try to change, try to change the
Speaker 5: way that people see us. I might guard somebody, then
Speaker 5: Keegan might guard somebody, and key On my guard somebody.
Speaker 5: But he I think he's making do with what you
Speaker 5: know he's got, and we've been better defensively. This year,
Speaker 5: I think we were we were like eleven for a
Speaker 5: while and then we had a bad stretch, drops like twenty.
Speaker 5: I think we're hovering around like fourteen to fifteen right now.
Speaker 5: But obviously he one day he comes up to me,
Speaker 5: he's like, hands me a paper.
Speaker 4: I'm like, what the fuck is this?
Speaker 5: And it showed the past twenty champions what they ranked,
Speaker 5: what they were rated in defense in the regular season.
Speaker 5: They raiding defense in the playoffs, and I think the
Speaker 5: worst was like the two Lakers that were like twentieth
Speaker 5: I think during the season, but then there were number
Speaker 5: one defensive team in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: But this is after won the.
Speaker 4: Championship, so they knew what it was like. So they
Speaker 4: just did the regular season. In the playoffs, they could
Speaker 4: flip that switch.
Speaker 5: And he's like, that's the only team that wasn't in
Speaker 5: the top ten that won a championship that year. So yeah,
Speaker 5: he's he's trying to make he's trying to make it work.
Speaker 5: And he's as you know, me as the leader and
Speaker 5: the head of the snake, and a lot of times
Speaker 5: I'm the guy picking up at the point of attack defender.
Speaker 5: He's like, this is what we have to get to
Speaker 5: what if we want to win, our offense can be
Speaker 5: as good as it can be. But until we decide,
Speaker 5: until we go out there consistently can guard somebody, we're
Speaker 5: not gonna we're not gonna win.
Speaker 3: I agree, man, I think you know, especially in the
Speaker 3: Western Conference, because it's so stat You know, right now
Speaker 3: you got in the playoff picture, but you know a
Speaker 3: lot of time left, right and to that point, working
Speaker 3: at your offense is potent, right, defense is hovering. You
Speaker 3: know what I mean? That about mediocre?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: What do you think you guys need to do to
Speaker 3: make sure you get hit getting that playoffs? Oh?
Speaker 4: We got to be consistent. That's that's always the word.
Speaker 4: How can you be consistent?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 5: Is what I think we're really trying to figure out.
Speaker 5: Can we consistently bring physicality every game?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: Can you not allow offensive rebounds?
Speaker 5: Can you take care of the ball, like being able
Speaker 5: to control those things? Obviously you can't control if you
Speaker 5: if you make shots or not that game. That's that's
Speaker 5: the way that the ball bounces. But winning at the
Speaker 5: little things is his thing, and and Dre you've been
Speaker 5: his in the locker room with him. Possession, game free
Speaker 5: throw count, turnovers and was offensive rebounds? Can you win
Speaker 5: at the and I think loose balls? Can you win
Speaker 5: at those things? If we win at those things, you
Speaker 5: put yourselves in a great chance to win. Now, it
Speaker 5: doesn't mean you're gonna win, but you probably got a
Speaker 5: higher chance to win.
Speaker 4: Than if you didn't do those things.
Speaker 5: So, uh, those are the things that you know that
Speaker 5: he's preaching and just trying to be consistent at that
Speaker 5: because like I said, you don't know if you're gonna
Speaker 5: make shots that day. But if you're not making shots,
Speaker 5: can you get extra possessions? Can you take care of
Speaker 5: the ball, can you get to the free throw line?
Speaker 5: Put yourself in a great chance to win.
Speaker 1: Last time you were on the Pie, you have spoken
Speaker 1: about how you retire of hearing about the Kings playoff drought.
Speaker 1: You obviously went on to break that drought. Yeah, obviously
Speaker 1: face us unfortunately, But what what was it that you
Speaker 1: end up finding? You know, it's tough talk talk to tough,
Speaker 1: especially in your first playoff series, because what it came
Speaker 1: down to is y'all were probably a better team than us.
Speaker 1: We just had to know how Like we knew between
Speaker 1: me and Steph and just us talking and then Clay,
Speaker 1: you know, like Clay being who he is and what
Speaker 1: he's done, we just knew how to do it. And
Speaker 1: so what was it that you found coming out of
Speaker 1: that playoff series that you're like, all right, when I
Speaker 1: get back there, I know, I now know this that
Speaker 1: I think can help us get over the hunt.
Speaker 4: I think I think the big thing is in it
Speaker 4: is adjustments. Like obviously we go to Game seven and.
Speaker 5: Good game until halftime, and y'all come out in the
Speaker 5: third quarter and just punch us in the mouth and
Speaker 5: there was no looking back from from from that point
Speaker 5: in time. But I just think every time y'all made
Speaker 5: an adjustment, it like frazzled everybody because guys have been
Speaker 5: in those positions, Like I think Domas had played in
Speaker 5: the playoff series before, but and then HB.
Speaker 4: Obviously I played in the finals. But other than that,
Speaker 4: it was my first time. It was the leak, first time.
Speaker 4: Uh Egan was rookie.
Speaker 5: Kevin had played in the in the conference finals before.
Speaker 5: But like most of the guys, especially our main guys,
Speaker 5: were you know, it's our first time doing this, TV's
Speaker 5: first time, Devon's first time, like everybody, it was everybody's
Speaker 5: first most of the guys first time being able to
Speaker 5: be in that type of environment and even at home,
Speaker 5: Like once y'all hit us in the in that second half,
Speaker 5: it was like, y'all, what the hell are we going
Speaker 5: to do?
Speaker 4: Like we couldn't figure out a way to stop nobody.
Speaker 1: Then we couldn't really score.
Speaker 5: The y'all up the physicality from the first six games,
Speaker 5: and I think it kind of rattled everybody and it
Speaker 5: was pretty much over, like like we literally couldn't We
Speaker 5: had no answer for anything that y'all had at that point.
Speaker 5: But just knowing that and being able to fill a
Speaker 5: playoff series and like for me playing a team seven
Speaker 5: times in a.
Speaker 4: Row, I'm like, what the hell is going on? Like mo,
Speaker 4: my head hurt. I'm tired of seeing them like it was.
Speaker 5: It was, it was different, but I love the feeling,
Speaker 5: like I'm like, bro, I'm in the best shape of
Speaker 5: my life, Like I feel like I could play for
Speaker 5: another month. And then even last year after we beachall
Speaker 5: and then we lost the Pelicans, I'm like, bro, like
Speaker 5: I'm in the best shape, but I feel like hell,
Speaker 5: and then the Pelicans go get swept by Okay, see
Speaker 5: I'm like, shit, they could let us win and I
Speaker 5: would have got us a game.
Speaker 4: I would have got us one game. But just being
Speaker 4: able to have that feeling, it's.
Speaker 5: Like it's hard to describe unless you've been through it,
Speaker 5: but on what it felt like, I'm like, I need
Speaker 5: to get back there and try to take those next
Speaker 5: steps because you don't want to be a part of
Speaker 5: a team that's just you know, you get in the
Speaker 5: first round and get bounced. Get in the first round,
Speaker 5: you get bounced. Now are you looking at blowing teams
Speaker 5: up after that?
Speaker 4: So it was it was a good feeling to break that.
Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, brom a competitor,
Speaker 5: So just getting to the playoffs, obviously losing to a
Speaker 5: team that had just won the championship, obviously I felt
Speaker 5: good about getting to the playoffs, but then having that
Speaker 5: like I'm I'm i feel like I'm missing out.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I was. I think I watched that series, man,
Speaker 3: and I thought, you know, one for your you know,
Speaker 3: your first playoffs, that was like, you know, everybody say
Speaker 3: you're coming out, that was that was your coming out party.
Speaker 3: I felt like one of you guys go up to
Speaker 3: uh two games. That was up to right. Uh, we
Speaker 3: know what happened in game two? Right, is there anything
Speaker 3: what happened? We know what happened. We know what happened
Speaker 3: in games man, you got maybe you get ejected and kicked.
Speaker 1: You're talking about when my anchor, that man grabbed my
Speaker 1: ankle with both his hands. Shut this out, b D.
Speaker 4: I didn't think they I didn't think that.
Speaker 3: Look God, I let that I was suspended. That was
Speaker 3: the most pivotal point in this series.
Speaker 1: Though, Wait one second, though beat D time out. He
Speaker 1: grabbed my ankle with both hands, and they specifically told me,
Speaker 1: They specifically told me, Nah, that ain't nothing. I just
Speaker 1: didn't move my arm. A few weeks ago, I didn't,
Speaker 1: I didn't grab I just didn't move my arm, and
Speaker 1: so zach Edie tripped and I was up graded to
Speaker 1: a FLAKR file after the game. But when my ankle
Speaker 1: was grabbed with two hands, they told me that was nothing.
Speaker 1: I said, that's great.
Speaker 3: So that's number one, b D.
Speaker 1: Number two. It was a turning point. You know why.
Speaker 1: I was a turnpoint because they were up two old, yes,
Speaker 1: and they went up too old, and they shouldn't have
Speaker 1: just let things the way they were Mike, don't come
Speaker 1: out like, Oh, we're gonna see what the lead do.
Speaker 1: Number one House pissed that Mic, because, Bro, you've been
Speaker 1: in the foxhole with me. You know the bullshit that
Speaker 1: I and you're gonna feed this narrative and ultimately I
Speaker 1: think it cost them because you changed the way the series.
Speaker 1: Look you up to lead everything you want to.
Speaker 3: Say, you smoke, you want to smoke?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because guess what you know why? So here's what happened.
Speaker 1: You changed the way. And look now you're game plan
Speaker 1: that you you're is set for the team with me.
Speaker 1: So now you're essentially going into a playoff game where
Speaker 1: they're completely game plan for you and what you want
Speaker 1: to do, and you're essentially going into the game with
Speaker 1: no game plan for what they're gonna do. And it's
Speaker 1: like it's like when Jah, when Jah got hurt with
Speaker 1: Willis playing them in the in the championship year, they
Speaker 1: beat us by fifty the next game because we went
Speaker 1: into a game and it's not on the coaches, it's
Speaker 1: just you haven't seen it. Whereas the game plan for
Speaker 1: two straight games. So once y'all changed the game plan
Speaker 1: essentially by him saying, oh, we'll see what the league
Speaker 1: gonna do as opposed to saying let's move on. He
Speaker 1: I f you're to fire, and then y'all got blown out.
Speaker 1: Now coming back in game four again, here's the no
Speaker 1: how we know the adjustments we need to make. Right,
Speaker 1: So now we come back to game four and we
Speaker 1: know the adjustments we need to make. Y'all ain't beating
Speaker 1: us once we make the adjustments because we know winning
Speaker 1: three in a row exactly. And so it just changed
Speaker 1: the whole complexity of the series. And yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Remember it that. I remember Game four because y'all two
Speaker 3: got into it. I say, that's what I'll be here for.
Speaker 3: You know, with my pg don't back down. And you
Speaker 3: know I love my pgs. With my pgs, don't back down.
Speaker 3: You and Jay got into each other's face. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, it's all competitiveness. I think, you know, just
Speaker 3: talk about Dre and how he bring that competitive nature
Speaker 3: out of that series, But more importantly, I think he
Speaker 3: brought it out of you where he was like, you
Speaker 3: know what, I gotta be the one, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, it can't be some bonus, it's gotta be
Speaker 3: like you. I think you was like, fuck it, man,
Speaker 3: it's got to be me.
Speaker 5: I mean it takes like I said, like I said before,
Speaker 5: like to win at a high level, Bro, you gotta
Speaker 5: be able to match that. And like he had a
Speaker 5: hard file, is what it is physical gott to match
Speaker 5: the physicality. So being able to be in that series
Speaker 5: and like understand that, like guys are getting to people
Speaker 5: always talking about, oh you can't be friends and blah
Speaker 5: blah blah. Bro, we can be cool off the court
Speaker 5: and punch each other in the mouth on the court.
Speaker 5: Like you fight with your brothers, you fight with your sisters,
Speaker 5: you fight with your cousins. After Saul said and done,
Speaker 5: you love them the same. So being able to go
Speaker 5: through that and like that was I think that was obviously.
Speaker 5: I think that was me and Dre's first time really
Speaker 5: like getting into it obviously because.
Speaker 4: His team's always been blowing my teams out. So it's like,
Speaker 4: what can I say?
Speaker 5: So like it to be in that Uh, it's definitely
Speaker 5: like it's it's cool, and like you have to be
Speaker 5: able to match that because as a and this is
Speaker 5: as a team. If you back down and you know
Speaker 5: somebody like him or a team like that, that's one
Speaker 5: there that's been there once they smell blud rap, like
Speaker 5: once they sense fear, they since you really don't want
Speaker 5: to fight, it's over for you. So that's where we
Speaker 5: as a team had to step up and be able
Speaker 5: to match that. And I think once my team saw that,
Speaker 5: and they already know like how I get, like if
Speaker 5: I get pissed off, like I'm a different person, different player.
Speaker 5: So like them being able to see that, I think
Speaker 5: helped us be able to extend the series. Cause, like
Speaker 5: you said, they won three straight. We go into Game
Speaker 5: six at their at their crib, like I can lay
Speaker 5: down or y'all can try to bring you back home.
Speaker 5: And I think game four, even though we lost Game five,
Speaker 5: like still we still had that belief.
Speaker 4: We still had that we could win the series. You know,
Speaker 4: Like I said, Game seven, second half day.
Speaker 3: And we was rattled.
Speaker 4: Was ten and it was over.
Speaker 3: It was you know, it was it was. It was
Speaker 3: a testament of hey man, y'all fighting a heavyweight champs,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And you know y'all young
Speaker 3: guns and y'all swinging and swinging, y'all fighting, you know,
Speaker 3: but there was there's something to what these dudes know,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? In that championship pedigree and
Speaker 3: when you think about you know, even Steph setting his
Speaker 3: playoff career high, you know, fifty points. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, It's like, damn. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like when I said, like, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 3: for you, like, what was that like being on the court.
Speaker 3: I know, like it wasn't a pleasant thing, But when
Speaker 3: you look at it, you know, for where you want
Speaker 3: to grow and where you want to get two as
Speaker 3: a player, talk about that game seven and how important
Speaker 3: it is because I feel like it's is going to
Speaker 3: mold your career.
Speaker 5: When I say it was nothing you could do, Like
Speaker 5: through the kitchen, we threw the kitchen. We god damn
Speaker 5: kitchen out, Like we ain't throw the scene. We threw
Speaker 5: everything that was in the kitchen at them. There was
Speaker 5: absolutely nothing you could do. He dribbling around four or
Speaker 5: five people and one throwing and getting it back and
Speaker 5: one three, and it was like just a snowball, and
Speaker 5: it's like, bro, we trying. But once they once they
Speaker 5: figured it out in that second half, like no matter
Speaker 5: what we did just wasn't working. So being it like
Speaker 5: you said, but a lot of that don't even have
Speaker 5: to do with just your skill or just their skill.
Speaker 4: It had to do with their know how.
Speaker 5: Once they knew what was they knew what was going on,
Speaker 5: how it was doing, how it was going, everybody got
Speaker 5: it going, Like it wasn't just Steph, it was everybody
Speaker 5: got it going. And there was just nothing we could
Speaker 5: do because we hadn't been there and we didn't know
Speaker 5: how to adjust to the last thing they did.
Speaker 4: Like I said, that's that's when the series. That's when
Speaker 4: the series just was over.
Speaker 1: It's crazy because and when you talk about making adjustments,
Speaker 1: like there's there's more than just game planing adjustments that
Speaker 1: need to be made, like sometimes and you kind of
Speaker 1: just hit at it sometimes in the playoffs' attitude adjustments
Speaker 1: that have to be made. And after y'all popped us
Speaker 1: in game six, the next morning, I sent some to Steff.
Speaker 1: I text him at like three o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1: I couldn't sleep, and so I text him like what
Speaker 1: my thoughts? And he texted me back to this book
Speaker 1: and he was like, it's funny you can't sleep because
Speaker 1: Harr's what I'm thinking. And it was like a book
Speaker 1: like we're way more detail than what I was saying,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, we gotta, we gotta have a meeting.
Speaker 1: He like, yeah, we need to have a meeting tomorrow.
Speaker 1: But you know, I talk in a lot of the meetings,
Speaker 1: he said, But I got this all right, big dog,
Speaker 1: you got it. Like and we went in that meet
Speaker 1: players only and he and he pretty much said to
Speaker 1: everybody like I don't care about your ego. I don't
Speaker 1: care who you are. I don't care what you do.
Speaker 1: If you get on this bus, this is what it is.
Speaker 1: You coming, You're getting loose balls. You're coming to play hard.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you play a minute, if you
Speaker 1: play a second, if you can't care, play two. I
Speaker 1: don't care if it's me, if it's Draymond, if it's Clay,
Speaker 1: I don't care who you are. If you play, you
Speaker 1: don't play. If you get on that bus, you come
Speaker 1: with one attitude.
Speaker 3: You're riding with me.
Speaker 1: If you ain't riding, don't get on the bush. And
Speaker 1: then he came out and did that and I was like, oh, wow,
Speaker 1: that's that's crazy. That's whaa like. So it was just
Speaker 1: and you know, coming off winning the NBA Finals the
Speaker 1: year before, you gotta get through that first round like
Speaker 1: the reality. I don't think we just we ain't have enough.
Speaker 1: We ran out of gas. But you just had to
Speaker 1: muster up everything that you could.
Speaker 3: And it's little brother, you know, the little little brother.
Speaker 3: Little brother is biting on the mankles. Baby, he want
Speaker 3: to scrap, you know what I'm saying. But we gotta
Speaker 3: give we got the air. We gotta give your flowers
Speaker 3: because in that series twenty four, seven and five, I
Speaker 3: mean for a coming out party for you know, your
Speaker 3: first playoff game. I think you know one, you just
Speaker 3: you established that pedigree you know that we've all known
Speaker 3: since you know, since college, but like to see you
Speaker 3: mature into that role and to be able to have
Speaker 3: that stage. Man, that's why I love the playoffs because
Speaker 3: the real one's gonna shine. You know what I mean,
Speaker 3: the real the real is gonna prevail and step up.
Speaker 3: And so you know, I love seeing that from you.
Speaker 3: And I wanted to give your flowers in the series
Speaker 3: because taking the chance, you know, the seven games man
Speaker 3: that you know, y'all definite, you deserve some credit. And
Speaker 3: I think a little bro, you know, they get bigger man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I appreciate it, but we where we are now, like,
Speaker 5: especially where I am in my career and like I'm
Speaker 5: about to get on my I'm getting close to get
Speaker 5: on my third contract.
Speaker 4: You want to be a team and a player that's
Speaker 4: constantly in the playoffs, can you can you?
Speaker 5: Obviously, everybody wants to win a championship, right, everybody can't
Speaker 5: be contender, truth or matter.
Speaker 4: Everybody wants to win. Honestly, everybody don't want to win
Speaker 4: to be told that's you know, you want to be
Speaker 4: part of that group that's always in the playoffs. And
Speaker 4: obviously you know at times you might have a two
Speaker 4: or three year.
Speaker 5: Window where you can win a championship here and they're here,
Speaker 5: they're here or there. So like you know, for me
Speaker 5: as a player, trying to figure out what we have
Speaker 5: to do to take that next step, because you know,
Speaker 5: you don't want to always be like, oh, and you
Speaker 5: know we lost the Warriors because they just win a
Speaker 5: championship and maybe us in the first round. Like, I
Speaker 5: can't let that be just the only story that we
Speaker 5: have to tell. So, I mean, it's still a lot,
Speaker 5: a lot of work that we have to do.
Speaker 4: As a team, as an organization, but I think we're
Speaker 4: trying to build towards that.
Speaker 5: You don't want to have that just one off You'll
Speaker 5: had a good season, you broke the you broke the streak,
Speaker 5: and then.
Speaker 4: Ship starts again.
Speaker 1: Hey, but Fox, you are what was your You recently,
Speaker 1: right before the season, had an opportunity to sign an extension.
Speaker 1: What was the motivation for you to pass on an extension?
Speaker 1: Sincely continuing to bet on yourself but you know, to
Speaker 1: pass on that amount of money and just play the season.
Speaker 4: For me, man, it's it has all to do with
Speaker 4: just the team, the organization. Where are we going.
Speaker 5: I want to make sure that we're in a position
Speaker 5: to try to win in the future, because that's ultimately
Speaker 5: what I want to do. Like I don't make enough
Speaker 5: money farless of where I play or what I do,
Speaker 5: Like I'm gonna be fine unless you know, God forbid,
Speaker 5: you're not going would you know that?
Speaker 4: You know, you have a career and an injury.
Speaker 5: But aside from that, like, I feel like I'm continuing
Speaker 5: to get better as a player every year. But for me,
Speaker 5: it's are we looking like we're continuing to get better
Speaker 5: year after year? And are we going to be able
Speaker 5: to compete at a high level? And that was that's
Speaker 5: all mine is, Like if we can show that this year,
Speaker 5: like you know, you signed the extension now if not,
Speaker 5: like obviously I still have another year.
Speaker 4: But that's that's where my mindset is.
Speaker 5: At some point we be able to compete for a
Speaker 5: championship or really compete at a high level for a
Speaker 5: long time.
Speaker 4: And that's where I'm at. You at that at that stage,
Speaker 4: and like I love I love the city, like I
Speaker 4: love being here.
Speaker 5: I've raised my family here, we got grand we got
Speaker 5: our grandparents or the kids grandparents here, Like I would
Speaker 5: love to be here and retire here.
Speaker 3: Uh play.
Speaker 4: I mean, how many people.
Speaker 5: Can say they played in one organization for their whole career,
Speaker 5: like I want to be a part of that's like
Speaker 5: a few people.
Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, I also want
Speaker 8: to win. So you got especially where you ask real money.
Speaker 8: You want that league, you know what I mean, You want.
Speaker 3: That window, you want that chance, man, And you know,
Speaker 3: I think you got to put yourself in the best
Speaker 3: situation at all times, especially when you're in the primiut.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm coming up on I'm coming up on those years.
Speaker 4: So yeah, they don't give all I got.
Speaker 5: But at the end of the day brother, the organization
Speaker 5: also got to give all they got. So like, that's
Speaker 5: that's where we are right now.
Speaker 1: I respect you holding them to the you know, holding
Speaker 1: them to the end of the bargain as well, because
Speaker 1: most guys in your position these days, they don't you know,
Speaker 1: they just do whatever it is that you know, and
Speaker 1: then a lot of them have agents that aren't willing
Speaker 1: to take that risk. You know, a lot of them
Speaker 1: have agents that's like, Yo, you should sign this extension
Speaker 1: because the money. I know from experience, you have an
Speaker 1: agent that's like, no, there's got to make sense for you.
Speaker 1: Like and if this don't make sense for you, it's
Speaker 1: my and obligation to advise you to do what makes
Speaker 1: sense for you because we're in a position we getting
Speaker 1: the money, you know what I'm saying. And but there's
Speaker 1: a certain standard that should be upheld from organizations when
Speaker 1: you talking star players. And I think the key is
Speaker 1: is a great organization there. You know, it takes time
Speaker 1: to turn an organization. But Vec took over the team.
Speaker 1: He came from here of the VECs, I think is
Speaker 1: one of the better owners in this league. And I
Speaker 1: think you know, they I know they want to be great.
Speaker 1: But in want to be great, you.
Speaker 4: Have to learn how to do it, you know, and
Speaker 4: so ye takes time and learn how to do that.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, It's just it's you know, it's not that I
Speaker 1: know where they have struggled. It's never for a lack
Speaker 1: of one to be great. They want to be great,
Speaker 1: but want to be great is making the right hires
Speaker 1: at all level.
Speaker 3: You gotta have them minds. You gotta have them minds
Speaker 3: on all levels.
Speaker 4: And that's one thing Mike actually did when he got here.
Speaker 5: He's like, yo, from ownership, it down to the ball boys,
Speaker 5: equipment guys, we gotta be a line.
Speaker 4: And that's that's that's what he brought like first first meeting, got.
Speaker 5: Somebody from every single department like so he he's bringing
Speaker 5: that obviously he knows what it takes for sure.
Speaker 1: You have to do that. And I think, you know,
Speaker 1: with with like that, I thought from the gate might
Speaker 1: be was a great hire. But everything around that has
Speaker 1: to make sense in order for that hire to reach
Speaker 1: his untimate potential. So I respect him, brother, I wish
Speaker 1: you well, We appreciate you coming on the show. My dog,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Good luck the rest of his ways.
Speaker 3: Stay healthy, Fox Ones Baby Roland Fox, I'm aside Sporteen
Speaker 3: bro Ekslt. Come on, la shall ge what color?
Speaker 1: What color you want?
Speaker 3: Ship man? You picked?
Speaker 1: We got, we got there.
Speaker 4: All green is about to come out. But we had
Speaker 4: the blowing oranges that just that just dropped.
Speaker 3: You know, you know it's blowing oranges as it's my
Speaker 3: nick colors. But the green, you know, the green is
Speaker 3: fun of money and J Green, I.
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