WEBVTT - Being Bruja: How One Journalist Tapped Into Her Ancestral Power and Became a Witch

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<v Speaker 1>Before saida Rivera and I sat down to talk, we

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<v Speaker 1>did something well, kind of unusual for an interview. She

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<v Speaker 1>asked to cleanse our recording studio.

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<v Speaker 2>Any energies that were in this room before this moment

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<v Speaker 2>be cleansed.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's because Zaida is a Bruha. She's a witch.

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<v Speaker 2>Today, I call on benevolent ancestors to enter this room

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<v Speaker 2>and join me.

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<v Speaker 1>Once the ancestors had been invited to join the space

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<v Speaker 1>and the room had been cleansed, I stepped in and

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<v Speaker 1>I also did something unusual. I took off my six

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<v Speaker 1>inch platform heels. Our interviews started with a limpia, a cleansing.

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<v Speaker 1>Let us begin. Zaida is performing an egg olympia.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna ask if you ever had one.

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<v Speaker 4>My mom did a linka awaivo like when I was

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<v Speaker 4>a little girl.

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<v Speaker 1>But There are, in fact, many different kinds of lempias,

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<v Speaker 1>because all of this has been around since before the

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<v Speaker 1>colonization of Latin America.

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<v Speaker 4>But I haven't had one in several decades. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>At their core, lempys are indigenous health and spiritual practices,

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<v Speaker 1>and lemphys are good for a lot of things. You

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<v Speaker 1>can get a limpia to help you get over a

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<v Speaker 1>breakup or to remove bad energy around you. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>lying on the floor and Zaida kneels over me. Now

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<v Speaker 1>she's rubbing her hands together and prepping the egg.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you okay with me? Suestion, you totally okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Zaida lets the egg guide her hand over my body,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's believed that the egg is absorbing negative energy

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<v Speaker 1>and leaves you with a sense of being cleansed of

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<v Speaker 1>whatever bad thing you had going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I asked the egg to pull out any energy that

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<v Speaker 2>no longer serves you.

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<v Speaker 1>The egg guides Zaida from my feet to the crowd

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<v Speaker 1>of my head.

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<v Speaker 2>Opening up this beautiful center for creation, removing any self doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes, as Zaida explains, a spot on your body will

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<v Speaker 1>call for more attention and the egg has to hover

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<v Speaker 1>for a little bit longer.

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<v Speaker 2>Misag is removing and cleansing her aura ad.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you can take a tea, breath in whenever you

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<v Speaker 4>feel called.

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<v Speaker 1>You can open your eyes combat.

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<v Speaker 4>The seating position.

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<v Speaker 1>I gently open my eyes and then I see Zayda's

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<v Speaker 1>big brown eyes, and Zaida is helping me off the

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<v Speaker 1>floors so I can get back to standing.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never started an interview with them, so the first

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<v Speaker 2>time for everything.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I try to love it.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're not done yet. There is a final thing

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<v Speaker 1>that needs to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>I cracked the egg.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the raw egg splashes into a clear glass of water.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm just going to leave that egg in the

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<v Speaker 2>water for about ten minutes before we read that egg.

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<v Speaker 1>From Fudro Media. It's Latino USA. I'm Maria your Hoosa.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we're going to practice the ancient tradition of Bruhetia.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to learn about the history and stop second

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<v Speaker 1>guessing ourselves. All of that with Za Rivera. For twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>Zaida was an entertainment journalist.

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<v Speaker 3>This is your girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Saya Rives couldn't wait for John like Guizamo to take

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<v Speaker 2>off his clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>But after two decades in the business, she felt a shift.

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<v Speaker 2>You're having this conversation with the universe that not everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>tuned into.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an inner voice, an inner knowing, you might

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<v Speaker 1>call it, that she was meant to be doing magic.

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<v Speaker 1>Her body was telling her that she was meant to

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<v Speaker 1>pursue brukhetiet and mysticism. But of course there were a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of critics.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been an entertainment reporter for how many years? Now

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<v Speaker 2>you're a mystic. This is a joke, You're a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>It hurt, but I got it.

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<v Speaker 3>I understood how on the outside that might look that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Zido was confident in her choice. She trusted that feeling

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<v Speaker 1>deep within her.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so sure of my connection.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I finally said, well, they don't see it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe they never will.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not going to deter me from continuing to open

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<v Speaker 2>more and more and more.

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<v Speaker 1>And one day she was now saida la brucha.

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<v Speaker 2>In the words of my Taino ancestors, an ankatou anankatu

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<v Speaker 2>anhan catu, so be it.

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<v Speaker 1>And well, that gut feeling has worked out pretty well

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<v Speaker 1>for Saida. She says she feels more in line with

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<v Speaker 1>her purpose in life, and that resulted in her debuting

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<v Speaker 1>her young adult guide. It's called Being Bruja. The Spanish

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<v Speaker 1>translation of the book is bivi Bruga. It's a one

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<v Speaker 1>oh one guide for young Latinas to help them get

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<v Speaker 1>in touch with their inner Brucha self and to learn

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<v Speaker 1>how to decipher the messages that come from beyond. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's get back to the studio, but this time in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the microphones and not on the floor doing

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<v Speaker 1>a limpia. Here's our conversation. What does it feel like

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<v Speaker 1>when you get those messages?

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's really just in all the years of work

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<v Speaker 2>in this it's trusting. It's not second guessing. I've gotten

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<v Speaker 2>enough confirmations to say, Sitha, stop second guessing. You're connected

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<v Speaker 2>and you're receiving these messages, and.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I've had a lot of reading, spiritual etc.

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<v Speaker 1>But no one has actually said stop the second guessing

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<v Speaker 1>so clearly and in English.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is why this book was so important. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the book that I wish I had when I was

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<v Speaker 2>a little girl. I feel like I've always been connected

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<v Speaker 2>in a very deep way spiritually, but didn't know what

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<v Speaker 2>that meant.

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<v Speaker 3>But I had my grandmother, my maternal grandmother.

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<v Speaker 2>Who I respectfully say bruha. And I say respectfully because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if she would feel like that's a

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<v Speaker 2>respectful word. But she would do bruha things all over

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<v Speaker 2>her house and I would watch her do it.

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<v Speaker 3>At Florida water. She introduced that to me IgA de Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>What is flora the water?

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like a spiritual cologne, if you will, but

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<v Speaker 2>like it's more than the spiritual work is Like when

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<v Speaker 2>we were younger and would tell my grandmother we have

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<v Speaker 2>period cramps and she would be like, mihah, bring us

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<v Speaker 2>to the bathroom, tell us to move our hair over

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<v Speaker 2>and pour it on the back of our neck and

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<v Speaker 2>go take a nap. Every time it worked every time.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. So yeah, so take me Saia too

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<v Speaker 1>when you were a little girl, because those were the

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<v Speaker 1>very first moments. What was that like with Esosentimiento's.

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<v Speaker 2>It was interesting because I was in and out of

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<v Speaker 2>different houses of worship with different family members.

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<v Speaker 3>So I went to Catholic.

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<v Speaker 2>Church with my grandmother, Baptist church the big choir and

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<v Speaker 2>everything with my Titi Julie, and Pentecostal with my dad.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just felt like the connection wasn't there. So

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<v Speaker 2>I talk about it in the book. Unfortunately, I came

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<v Speaker 2>from a house that had domestic violence, and so as

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<v Speaker 2>a little girl, I would run to my room to

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<v Speaker 2>escape those moments, and without even knowing, I would just

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<v Speaker 2>sit in meditation.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just breathing, breathing through it.

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<v Speaker 2>But on multiple occasions I felt like someone was rocking me.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember one day distinctively opening my eyes to look

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<v Speaker 2>at my knee and see if I'm really rocking, my

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<v Speaker 2>knee won't be moving, and it was. And I knew

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<v Speaker 2>in that moment, Maria, that there was something beyond what

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<v Speaker 2>our two eyes could see that is here guiding us

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<v Speaker 2>along our journey. And my journey has been amazing thus far.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know that spirit is looking over watching over me.

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<v Speaker 1>How often do you think that, in this case, young kids,

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<v Speaker 1>but very specifically young Latinas are experiencing or practicing spiritual

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<v Speaker 1>magic and they don't even know it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it happens a lot because I didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>know what I was doing, and then I find out

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<v Speaker 2>in a class that, oh, this is a spiritual tradition

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<v Speaker 2>that's been around for generations. So I feel like a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of a lot of Latinas there's an innate response

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<v Speaker 2>to this because it comes from our ancestors. This is

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<v Speaker 2>stuff our great great great great grandmothers was practicing.

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<v Speaker 3>They were practicing this work.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about colonization and Catholicism. They're injuxtaposition to

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<v Speaker 1>our indigenous ancestral roots, right, But how do you put

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<v Speaker 1>those two things together.

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<v Speaker 2>I want these young people or anybody reading it to

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<v Speaker 2>realize that they're not alone in any confusion there.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So, just like I mentioned, my grandmother devout Catholic, but

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<v Speaker 2>when she came home, she would have bowls of water

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<v Speaker 2>above her refrigerator to soak up negative And so that

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<v Speaker 2>is how I make sense of it. That bringing Christianity

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<v Speaker 2>into areas of indigenous people that did not practice it

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<v Speaker 2>and telling them this is what you're going to practice.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a choice.

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<v Speaker 2>It's either this or you're going to suffer great consequences.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of it happened in shadows, behind the

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<v Speaker 2>doors at night, where it wasn't under the watchful eyes

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<v Speaker 2>of colonizers, and then they would show up in the

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<v Speaker 2>houses of worship. Now we get to my grandmother, who

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<v Speaker 2>still believes in these traditions from the island of Puerto

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<v Speaker 2>Rico from Borinquin, right, but also feels so drawn to

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible and the Catholic Church and feels safe in

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<v Speaker 2>both spaces.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what I feel.

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<v Speaker 2>I could go to a house of worship and absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>feel God in that space, But then I can go

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<v Speaker 2>and sit by a body of water and I feel

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<v Speaker 2>God there too.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna want to miss what comes next, because

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<v Speaker 1>when we come back, Zaida will read the egg and

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<v Speaker 1>find out what it tells her after the limpia that

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<v Speaker 1>she did on me.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not a lot of fogginess, which is nice, but

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<v Speaker 2>there is some fog around the yolk, and you see

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<v Speaker 2>those three big bubbles right there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, people talking crap gossip.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay with us, Yes, hey, we're back. And before the break,

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<v Speaker 1>zaidivera author of Being Brucha, was about to read the

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<v Speaker 1>egg in the glass cup. All right, let's get back

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<v Speaker 1>to the story.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to stand up to look at it.

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<v Speaker 4>So as we look at the cup, it looks pretty clear.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not a lot of fogginess, which is nice, but

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<v Speaker 2>there is some fog around the yolk, and you.

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<v Speaker 4>See those three big bubbles right there. Yeah, people talking

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<v Speaker 4>crap gossip. Dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So small bubbles usually mean the cleanse took place.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything's good. But the bubbles are big. It's like, ooh,

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<v Speaker 2>there's some haters in the mix, so keep doing what

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing. Mightey because we people are watching now. One

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<v Speaker 2>thing I see as a string right here is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of floating by itself.

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<v Speaker 4>That was a cord cutting of some sort.

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<v Speaker 2>You might have had an energetic connection to somebody that

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't want that anymore, and the egging.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet cleared that.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I'll see the strength still sort of attached, and

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<v Speaker 2>it shows me, oh, we should schedule a chord cutting.

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<v Speaker 4>But in this case it seems like it's already detached. Nice.

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<v Speaker 4>Otherwise it looks beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>It just seems like there might be a little gossip

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<v Speaker 2>happening around.

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<v Speaker 1>Your book being Brucha. I do love the title in Spanish,

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<v Speaker 1>almost a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>More vv brucha, which I mean live it live brucha.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but you know, I'm sure the publishers are like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean, live bruka. That's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>too much. But you did decide to write it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a young adult book one and it's not only

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<v Speaker 1>in English. It's in Spanish.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, why it was so important. The traditions, the rituals,

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<v Speaker 2>everything that I'm speaking about come from those countries that

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<v Speaker 2>Spanish is spoken. You know, how could I write it

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<v Speaker 2>and not have a young person in Mexico that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>speak English not feel seen. So you know, I credit

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<v Speaker 2>my publisher a lot. They were very excited to do

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<v Speaker 2>it in Spanish, and so was I. And coming from

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that Spanish is not my first language, I've learned

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<v Speaker 2>over the years in my adult life, how to write

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<v Speaker 2>in Spanish, how to speak in Spanish. But it just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Maria, I I manifested this years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in.

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<v Speaker 2>Meditation and I asked, God, please let me bring this

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<v Speaker 2>work to young people. I don't know how, but I

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<v Speaker 2>need the little girl, SAIDA that was nine on her bed.

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<v Speaker 3>Seeing myself rocked.

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<v Speaker 2>I need that nine year old to read this, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to share something really wild. I was guided

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<v Speaker 2>through a past life regression meditation. And guess what I

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<v Speaker 2>saw in that meditation, what myself as an adult woman

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<v Speaker 2>walking into the room where I lived as a little girl,

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<v Speaker 2>where I was sitting crying on my bed, and I rocked.

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<v Speaker 1>Myself, Old, are you rocking younger you.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was inner child healing work that was being

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<v Speaker 2>done already. And when I saw that, I thought, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>this makes so much sense because in that moment, as

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<v Speaker 2>a nine year old, I felt so safe. I felt

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<v Speaker 2>like whatever was happening outside of the room wasn't going

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<v Speaker 2>to get to me.

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<v Speaker 1>What I love about your book is that it really

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<v Speaker 1>is a starter guide for Like, if you had a thea,

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<v Speaker 1>who is going to tell you all about it? Great?

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<v Speaker 1>But if we don't have a thea, you can read

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<v Speaker 1>the book. So what do you think just if you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing that starter guide for our listeners, what do they need?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the what are the basic things that you need?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's really interesting because most of the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>is in our kitchen. Like I use a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>things that are right in my kitchen, cinnamon, rosemary, like

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<v Speaker 2>these herbs. But if I was going to say, like

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<v Speaker 2>where do you start right like this is a bluha,

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<v Speaker 2>one on one kind of book, I would really start

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<v Speaker 2>working with the moon. That's one way that you could start.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a way to introduce that connection to nature and

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<v Speaker 2>everything around us. The new Moon is manifesting. What do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to manifest? The foll moons. What do you

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<v Speaker 2>want to let go of? What is it that's in

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<v Speaker 2>your way? What is taking up space that no longer

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be there. That's one way, but also another

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<v Speaker 2>way is manifestation. I would say, try some manifestation work.

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<v Speaker 2>Grab yourself some crystals. You know, my oldest daughter, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't wait for her to hear that she was the

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<v Speaker 2>one anti all of this.

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<v Speaker 3>I go in her room. Now, she got crystals.

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<v Speaker 2>She has angel numbers on her mirror like it resonates.

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<v Speaker 2>So even getting yourself some crystals, writing down something you

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<v Speaker 2>want to manifest, folding it and putting the crystal over

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<v Speaker 2>that piece of paper. The biggest thing and the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>ingredient is trust. Trusting and believing that what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 2>what you want is being heard and received. And if

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<v Speaker 2>it is in line with your purpose, there's no stopping it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be yours. But the big key of

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<v Speaker 2>this is making sure it's in line with your purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that if you failed at something, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm not magic, I can't make this manifestation stuff work. No,

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<v Speaker 2>if it was a failure, that means there was a

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<v Speaker 2>lesson in it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna take a quick pause, like, hey, we're back

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<v Speaker 1>before the break. So I that was breaking down some

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<v Speaker 1>of the essential items that she has in order to

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<v Speaker 1>be Abrucha. But now she's going to guide me through

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<v Speaker 1>some of the witchy items that she actually brought into

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<v Speaker 1>the studio with us for the interview. So before we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get to the next part, right, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do a quick little reading, yes, but before you

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<v Speaker 1>do that, can you just tell me what you brought

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<v Speaker 1>that's on the table in front of us.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, So I brought some crystals, and I believe that

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<v Speaker 2>crystals have energy. They're from the Earth, they're pressed together

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<v Speaker 2>to create these amazing colors and all of these things.

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<v Speaker 2>And then of course I have the symbol of love, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we have a just a clear quartz. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is really like connected to the crown chakra, which

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<v Speaker 2>was really powerful in your egg Limpia.

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<v Speaker 3>I always bring Florida water, and then I always always

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<v Speaker 3>travel with her. She is the Diosa Luna of the

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<v Speaker 3>Tin tradition.

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<v Speaker 2>She is the moon goddess and I love her little story.

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<v Speaker 2>She like sits in a cave during the day and

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<v Speaker 2>lets the sun just you know, shine and be in

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<v Speaker 2>the spotlight. And then once that sun goes down, she's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now it's my time to work, and she comes out

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<v Speaker 2>of her cave and illuminates the night sky.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a Tibetan sombol.

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<v Speaker 2>I brought a smaller one today because I have bigger soundbols.

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<v Speaker 2>I use this to cleanse the room. Sound is a

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful way to do that. That wave that carries with

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<v Speaker 2>the sound is going to move the energy around the room.

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<v Speaker 3>So I do that and then my cards.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's going to happen now?

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<v Speaker 3>So let's do a little reading.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, do I have to do anything or no.

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<v Speaker 3>Not at all. We're just going to pull three cards.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The cards will from left to right. They signify past, present, future.

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<v Speaker 2>So all I need you to do is just look

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<v Speaker 2>at the cards as I'm shuffling, and just think about things.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about whatever it is that you're asking these cards. Ooh,

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<v Speaker 2>when cards fly out, they're met for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, this one fool out.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll put it to the side. What guidance? What messages?

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, okay, thank you great spirit. Okay, so we

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<v Speaker 2>had cards fly out, and I'm going to show you.

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<v Speaker 2>So you got nine of Wands for past. But nine

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<v Speaker 2>of Wands is basically saying you're a work in progress

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<v Speaker 2>and you know that they there's little blockages in the way,

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<v Speaker 2>but you don't let that limit you. I love the

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<v Speaker 2>imagery of this car too, because she's standing like behind

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<v Speaker 2>a broken fence, so it's just showing she could step

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<v Speaker 2>right over that.

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<v Speaker 1>She's super tall, she could absolutely step right over.

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<v Speaker 2>But this really resonates to me with your work present

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<v Speaker 2>night of ones. If you got a page, it's more

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<v Speaker 2>like thinking about it, but the nights is like, let's

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<v Speaker 2>do it, let's live life. I'm feeling like you're you're

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<v Speaker 2>happier in your life now than you probably have been

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<v Speaker 2>in a long time. It's true, and at this time

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<v Speaker 2>in your life, at this age, there's a wisdom that

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<v Speaker 2>you feel that you haven't before. Correct Three of Swords says,

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<v Speaker 2>you're still going to be disappointed by things. Three of

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<v Speaker 2>Swords comes to say, heartbreak is real, but our bodies,

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<v Speaker 2>our spirits are so resilient that the heart will heal.

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<v Speaker 2>So I do feel like this reading has a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to do with your work and that you have been

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<v Speaker 2>feeling heartbreak in what you've been seeing Oh my god, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Oof. Yeah, no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>And this means in every way, not just work, but family.

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<v Speaker 2>You are the lead in your story, not your children,

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<v Speaker 2>not your partner. And that sounds funny to Latina's to

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<v Speaker 2>say that, but you see that if you lead and

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<v Speaker 2>you're at the top of your priority list and you're

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<v Speaker 2>taking care of yourself like you do physically spiritually, that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to resonate with everyone else around you, and your

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<v Speaker 2>kids will carry that with them for the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>their life.

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<v Speaker 1>God, I feel so light.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I came in I wasn't you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was asthmatic and tight. But I'm feeling just completely different

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<v Speaker 1>about it. So I'm just so glad that I had

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<v Speaker 1>this time to sit and.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk with you. Me too, I'm so honored.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, thank you, saida thank you. That was saida Rivera.

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<v Speaker 1>Her new book, Being Bruja, is out now. This episode

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<v Speaker 1>was produced by Monica Moreles Garcia, who was edited by

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<v Speaker 1>Maria Garcia. It was mixed by Leah Sean Damron. Fernanda

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<v Speaker 1>Echavari is our managing editor. The Latino USA team also

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<v Speaker 1>I are co executive producers and I'm your host Maria

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