1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. All welcome on in everybody. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: Third hour of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: kicks off right now, and we're going to make sure 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 2: we give you any updates if there are already updates 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: to the legal arguments that have been discussed here on 7 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: the show around the Trump indictment, Any new clips, new ideas, 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: because that's clearly dominating a lot. 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: Of what you're seeing online. 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: But there's another legal story out there that I thought 11 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: we should spend some time on today and it has 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: to do with Daniel Penny. So we know that Daniel Penny, 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: just just by way of review, he is the marine 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: who stepped in when Jordan Neely was threatening to kill 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: people on a subway train and he put him in 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: a choke hold. He was not the only person who 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: tried to restrain Jordan Neely because of what he was 18 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: threatening people on the subway with, but he put him 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: in a choke hold. They went for police as soon 20 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: as they could at the next station and nearly subsequently died. 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: And we're being. 22 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: Told that this is a case of vigilanteism and there's 23 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: a very clear political narratives that play here. Okay, well, 24 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: let's look at what actually we know at this point. 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: He has been indicted on manslaughter charges. He faces a 26 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 2: maximum of fifteen years in prison for that manslaughter charge 27 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 2: and also another charge for criminally negligent homicide, which carries 28 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: four years behind bars. Now, just so everyone is up 29 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: with what the Democrats Clay here are claiming, because this 30 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: has become very part because, as you've said, he's a 31 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: white guy and the guy he killed is black. So 32 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: this is why this becomes a big national news story 33 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: because it fits into a false narrative if there's a 34 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: lot of on black murder that occurs regularly in this 35 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: country because of all the white supremacisty, white supremacy and 36 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: racism and all the rest. CNN refers to and runs 37 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: full like big photos of Jordan Neely dressed as Michael 38 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 2: Jackson and refers to him as a street artist who 39 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: died from a chokehold on a subway. Refers to the 40 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 2: morning at the funeral, they'd present the most sympathetic picture 41 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: of this guy they possibly can. Meanwhile, Neely had recently 42 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: punched a woman in an elderly woman in the face, shattered, 43 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: her nose in her eye socket, no reason, just because 44 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: Also it's believed that he threatened to push a woman 45 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: in front of a train, which is every New York 46 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: City subway rider's worst fear these days, because it does 47 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: occasionally happen, and it's horrific. It happened recently as a 48 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: woman on the Upper East Side of Manhattan thrown in 49 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: front of a subway train. She's now paralyzed. No one 50 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: talks about this, but they should because of what's going 51 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 2: on here, I mean, Clay at a time when cities 52 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 2: are so violent and there's so much of a rise 53 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: in crime in the last few years that people are 54 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: leaving those cities because Democrats make the case that you 55 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 2: shouldn't really be too hard on criminals. For them to 56 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 2: go after this guy and have him face almost twenty 57 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: years in prison for this just seems to be the 58 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: worst kind of ideological sorrows inspired rot when it comes 59 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 2: to criminal justice. 60 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: I think of this also ties in really well, Buck 61 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: with what you talked about. As a longtime resident of 62 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: New York City, and I know we have a monster 63 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 3: audience in New York City, but also people who live 64 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: in all different sorts of cities all over America, and 65 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: when you're seeing your city's descend into lawlessness, there's this 66 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: question of what you should do. Right if you happen 67 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: to be like Neely, is here a relatively young and 68 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: healthy former marine, right, a guy who is able to 69 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: take care of himself, shouldn't you put yourself out there 70 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: in any way and try to protect people who are 71 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 3: not as able to take care of themselves as you are. 72 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 3: I think this is something in the back of every 73 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 3: guy who's out there listening to us right now, in 74 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: the back of your mind, especially if you're a guy 75 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 3: in your twenties, in your thirties, maybe in your forties, 76 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 3: you're still really in good physical condition. You're in better shape, 77 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: better able to take care of yourself than most people are. 78 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 3: And when you hear him, talk Buck and explain, as 79 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 3: we played on this program earlier this week, there were women, children, 80 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: people of all different races that he felt like this 81 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: guy was threatening and he felt obligated to try to 82 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 3: do something to protect people who were not able to 83 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 3: protect themselves. 84 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: And I wonder to what. 85 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: Extent when you see the story to your point, Buck, 86 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: they are right now reducing charges on virtually everyone out 87 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: there who commits actual, intentional acts of violence. 88 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: How do you not think to yourself, I'm not going 89 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: to do anything. 90 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: Remember we played Buck the dad and the mom and 91 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 3: the kid, and the guy on the subway is just 92 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: threatening and screaming at that family as they sit on 93 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 3: the subway, and you said to me, you're a dad, Clay, 94 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: what would you want to do in that situation. Well, 95 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 3: in that situation, I would want to protect my family, 96 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 3: But I would also think to myself, I'm a white guy. 97 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 3: This guy is black, screaming at the family. He may 98 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: be armed, right, I might accelerate this situation by even 99 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 3: trying to protect my family in any way. And do 100 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: I feel comfortable that if a thirty second video was 101 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 3: taken of our interaction, that it would in any way 102 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 3: reflect positively on me because I'm a white guy. He's 103 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 3: a black guy, even though he would have started this 104 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 3: violence and be threatening wife and kid who are clearly 105 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: unable to protect themselves. I think a lot of people 106 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 3: just put their head down. I think there's people all 107 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 3: over the country right now who, when they see people 108 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 3: that they think are engaging in threats of violence or 109 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: violent behavior in general, I think there's a lot of 110 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: men out there who are afraid of putting themselves into 111 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: the equation, and they just drop their eyes and hope 112 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: they don't have eye contact made when Alvin Brad that 113 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: we're here right now, when Alvin Brad came into office 114 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 3: in January of twenty twenty two, and look, it's a 115 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: shame that New York State residents weren't able to get 116 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 3: it together enough and put LESE. 117 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: Helden in the governor's mansion. Instead, they have Kathy Hochel, 118 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 2: who is honestly a low IQ unethical disaster. And no 119 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: one even no one ever would have dreamed that somebody 120 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 2: so inact would become the governor of a major state. 121 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: I think, well, maybe not, there's a lot of stupid 122 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 1: governors these days. 123 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 2: But nonetheless, here we are looking at Bragg. And I 124 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: would remind everybody that with the Daniel Penny situation, he's going. 125 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: For he's basically going for the juggular. 126 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: I mean, fifteen years on one count, four on another, 127 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: twenty years, your life is basically over. I mean you're not, 128 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: you're you know, his most productive years are going to 129 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: be spent in a prison cell. If he gets convicted 130 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: on this. Meanwhile, when Bragg came into office, Bragg, who 131 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: just you know, is he's a true social justice warrior 132 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: in that he also went to a sixty five thousand 133 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: dollars a year private school in Manhattan, so you know 134 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: he knows the struggle. But he said that fourth degree stalking, 135 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: resisting arrest, obstructing government, prostitution, not paying for a public 136 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: transportation no le, you can have up to three ounces 137 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: of marijuana. None of that will be prosecuted, so you 138 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: can oh trespassing. So there's stalking charges, trespassing charges, resisting 139 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: arrest charges, obstruct in government, which often is involved with 140 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,559 Speaker 2: police trying to do their jobs, prostitution, lots and lots 141 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: of weed, which is. 142 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,559 Speaker 1: Still a federal crime. By the way, people forget that play. 143 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: All of that not going to be prosecuted under brag administration. 144 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: Now, how are these things related. 145 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: On the one hand, you have the Democrat mindset that 146 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: going soft on crime is inherently just, which is completely 147 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: insane because you just create a lot more victims. But 148 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: also these more minor things lead to an environment where 149 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: you have more Jordan neelys, you have more people going 150 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: around terrorizing their fellow New Yorkers getting away with it. 151 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: The cops are demoralized, the prosecutor's hands are tied, and 152 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: everybody sick of it. And you know this is if 153 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: I could, I would if I could go and like 154 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: pick a place, I would love to go on a 155 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 2: set of mourning Joe or someone like Joe Scarborough who 156 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: lives in a mansion in Florida, you know, with his 157 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: second wife. If you were to do that, I would 158 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: want to be able to sit down and say to them, 159 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 2: you guys have private drivers. What do you think it's 160 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 2: like for people who ride the subway normally all the time? 161 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: And why do you think they should have to live 162 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: in constant fear of maniacs? Will all vote for Joe 163 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: Biden if they vote for anyone like I would really 164 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: want to push them on this, Yeah, because there's no defense. 165 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: There's no argument, honest argument of how Democrats approach this 166 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: stuff anymore. And it's really it's shameful that the Republicans 167 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: haven't been able to capitalize on this and take more 168 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: control on in a whole range of places and a 169 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: whole range of offices. 170 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: You want to play. 171 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: We come back on this next break here in a second, 172 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: let's play the Daniel Penny because we have him right now. 173 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 3: I think we've got Daniel Penny right now, right the 174 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: forty second clip of him explaining. 175 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: What he was doing to do. Okay, yeah, yeah, Daniel, Yeah, 176 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: go for it. 177 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 4: You can see in the video there's a clear rise 178 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 4: and fall of his chest indicating that he's breathing. I'm 179 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 4: trying to restrain him from him being able to carry 180 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 4: out the threats. And then some people say that this 181 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 4: was about race, which is absolutely ridiculous. I didn't see 182 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 4: a black man righting passengers. I saw a man threatening passengers, 183 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 4: a lot of whom were people of color. A man 184 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 4: who helped restrain mister Neeli was a person of color. 185 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 4: A few days after the incident, I read in the 186 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 4: papers that a woman of color came out and called 187 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 4: me a hero. 188 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 3: What. 189 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: I don't believe that I'm a hero, but she was 190 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 4: one of those people that I was trying to protect. 191 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 2: So this is something that people hear and they go, 192 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: I want Daniel Penny on my subway. Yep, like normal 193 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: people of all races, religions, colors, you name it, normal people, 194 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: everyday people. They all want Daniel Penny on their subway, 195 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: all of them. They might not all feel comfortable saying 196 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: that out loud because you know they'll get made fun 197 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: of on MSNBC. 198 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: For being racist. And they want someone like Daniel Penny. 199 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: They don't care if it's a white guy, a black guy, 200 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: Hispanic guy. 201 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: An Asian guy. 202 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: They want some male to be there to step in 203 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: or perhaps you know for some people listening there like, well, 204 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: I'd be that guy myself. But you know, when we 205 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: talked to even our friends off air about this Clay 206 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: and you know, we talked to producer Ally Rise a 207 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: subway a lot on the show. She's a you know, 208 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: she's a woman, she's probably five six or so and 209 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 2: has to think about what do I do if a 210 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: maniac comes up and threatens me on the subway? 211 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: How do I handle that? Because I'm on my own 212 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: now right, I don't know. I can't. 213 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: I can't think that a Daniel Penny's going to step 214 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: forward because people aren't going to risk fifteen or twenty 215 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: years in prison because Alvin Bragg is a racial Marxist, like, 216 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: they're not going to do that. 217 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 3: I'm going to have two kids in New York City 218 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: with me next week, Buck I'm going up to Cooperstown, 219 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 3: New York. People know this Little League tournament that I'm 220 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 3: driving over to New York City. You know, my wife 221 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: said to me last night, she said, whatever you do, 222 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: don't take the kids on the subway. We've been in 223 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 3: New York City before, we've taken the kids on the subway. 224 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 3: My wife said to me last night, do not take 225 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 3: the boys on the subway with you. Don't take the 226 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 3: kids on I never said it before. I bet there 227 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: are a ton of people in New York City taking 228 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 3: their kids in. Maybe you're traveling up there during the summer, 229 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: taking a family vacation. Whatever, legitimately said to me, Promise 230 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: to me that you will not take them on the subway. 231 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 3: Take Uber's walk wherever you want to go. Don't get 232 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: on the subway with them. 233 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a very straightforward pathway to how we 234 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: got here. And it's taken a long time, but we 235 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: really reached this moment of with BLM two point zero, 236 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: it just got ratcheted up to a whole new level. 237 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: And because of George Floyd, you know that whole situation. 238 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 2: But they decided to empty out the asylums and then 239 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: empty out the prisons and then stop enforcing the law, 240 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: and now they enforce laws against people who want to 241 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: defend themselves. When you see it on this continuum, put 242 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 2: the most extremely mentally, you know, compromise people possible out 243 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: in society. Tell them they can live on the streets, 244 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: Tell them they can do drugs out in the open. 245 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: Tell them they can urinate, defecate, row things that people 246 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 2: steal from stores. Tell them this is normal. Now make 247 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: this a normal. See for all of major American cities 248 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: in Democrat controlled enclaves, and then wonder why is it 249 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 2: that all these stores are closing? Why is it that 250 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: there are hundreds and hundreds of nine to one one 251 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 2: calls to single whole Foods in San Francisco. And you know, 252 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: part of the problem here is, I think Clay, that 253 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: that the propaganda the Democrats are constantly subjected to around 254 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: criminal justice is so powerful that they don't think they 255 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: can embrace the reality of better policing, more serious criminal 256 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: justice system because they've been told that that's racist, so 257 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: that they can that's not an option, right. I think 258 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 2: this is part of what goes on. The Democrats claim 259 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: that the old way of doing policing, I mean the 260 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 2: way from you know, four or five years ago racist 261 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: and you sit here and you say, well, they're not 262 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 2: going to accept being racist, So what are we have? 263 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: More and more failure, and that's what we see. 264 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 3: I think that's underd percent right, and I would like 265 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: to be We talked earlier about Buck about the idea 266 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: of jury nullification. If you're on that Trump jury down 267 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 3: in South Florida. I hope that when this case involving 268 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 3: Daniel Penny eventually goes in front of a New York 269 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 3: City jury, I hope that there are some of our 270 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 3: listeners that are in that mix that could find themselves 271 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 3: there to be able to defend this guy who clearly 272 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 3: clearly is being wildly overcharged and should have never been 273 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: charged at all, and keep him out of prison. 274 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 2: I think that why they're including that four year you know, 275 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: reckless homicide involuntary manslaughter rather in voluntary manslaughter charge, They're 276 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: gonna they're gonna try to push on that. You know, 277 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: they include the big charge, which is outrageous of murder. Basically, 278 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: this guy went out and just murdered somebody, but they 279 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: include the lesser charge, right so that they can actually 280 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 2: get so second degree manslaughter is the big one. Criminally 281 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: negligent homicide is the four year charge. The idea here being, oh, well, 282 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: we went for the we went for the big charge. 283 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: If we can't get that, we'll take the four years 284 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: for negligent homicide. 285 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: Right, And the. 286 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 3: Idea that the jury basically compromises, right, right, Oh, we're 287 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: not going to hit him with the big one, but 288 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: we'll hit him with this mid tier one, and that that. 289 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: Way they'll still be able to trumpet this conviction. 290 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: And I think that at a very basic level, we're 291 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: talking about the broader political and criminal justice narratives. But 292 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: you know, and I remember my last year in New 293 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: York City a few different times, maniac's just yelling. I 294 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: didn't no interaction. Them just came up to me yelling 295 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: crazy stuff on the street. Yeah, it's stuff that I 296 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: could never repeat on the radio. And it just happens. 297 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: But if someone comes up to you and says and 298 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: threatens to kill you, you are on the subway, I remember, 299 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: you can't go anywhere, you can't escape. Yeah, if someone 300 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: comes up to you and they're menacing other people and 301 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: you can see what's going on with that, and then 302 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: they say I'm going to kill you. 303 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm willing to go to jail for it. 304 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: You are obligated to sit there, do nothing and hope 305 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: they don't stab you with something because if you do anything. 306 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: Oh, he's a Michael Jackson impersonator. What do you mean? 307 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: Why would you ever? You know? 308 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: I mean, this is not the society that any sane 309 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: person wants to live in. 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Bud Light, which Clay insists is the 361 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 2: most intricate, luxurious and fantastic tasting beer of all time, 362 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 2: or he says, you can't tell the difference you had 363 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: bud Light at whatever beer you like. 364 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: I don't know it's one or the other. 365 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 3: Not all beers, Buck like, there's a big difference between 366 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: like I like Guinness, for instance, Guinness and bud Light 367 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 3: taste test would work. My argument, which has got people 368 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: riled up for months now, is that the average person 369 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 3: bud Light cores Light Miller Lite. There is not a 370 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 3: substantial difference on a taste test in there is Guinness 371 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 3: even beer, Isn't it like an ale or something. I 372 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 3: don't think Guinness even qualifies, ask qualifies as a beer. 373 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 3: You can toss in Blue Moon, which I like. You 374 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 3: can toss in Grottis, which is my beer all over 375 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 3: the state of Tennessee that Jay Cutler and a few 376 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 3: other guys that I own is a traditional It's a 377 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 3: traditional Irish stout beer made from barley hops water and 378 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 3: a specific strain of abulous. Well, you can't really drink 379 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 3: beer out of gluten, no, I'm I'm Gluten is like 380 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 3: kryptonite for me. 381 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: Man. Rather, beer is like kryptonite for me. I can't. 382 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: I can't drink it. 383 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 3: So I get made fun of sometimes buck because if 384 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 3: I see Guinness on tap and I roll up to 385 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 3: a bar, I will get a Guinness. And then sometimes 386 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 3: I'll ask the bartender. I'll be like, hey, how many Guinnets? 387 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 3: Like I was out in Scottsdale for the Super Bowl 388 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 3: and I was like, really excited. I saw Guinness on 389 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 3: tap now. I asked the girl. I was like, hey, 390 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 3: how many people have ordered Guinness tonight? You know it 391 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: was the waste management open day or whatever. And she 392 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 3: was like you you are the only person tonight to 393 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 3: come up to the Scottsdale bar and order a Guinness. 394 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 3: And I was like, well, I'm going to order several 395 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 3: of them, so at least we'll keep the tap work 396 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 3: in the here. So big difference there. But yes, bud 397 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: Light Miller like cores Light. You are correct. I will 398 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 3: continue to take the slings and arrows. Not much difference. 399 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 2: I mean these Miller light Honestly, there are people out 400 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: there who are walking on their inclined treadmill drinking their 401 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: Miller Light, and they're just they're just angry about Clay's blasphemy. 402 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 3: Which is I'm gonna get flattened somewhere soon by the 403 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 3: treadmill walker Miller like drinking community for sure. 404 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: So bud Light, though, which has been America's top bat 405 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: for many decades, I mean it is iconic. I should 406 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: say it was iconic in the beer industry in a 407 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: way that was really similar to like a Coca Cola 408 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 2: or something, right. I think for most people, if you said, 409 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: you know what's the most common, but what's the beer 410 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 2: you were they Oh, bud Light, bud Light. It's just 411 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: it worked, right, that was the whole idea behind it, 412 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 2: and it is now the second the second beer for 413 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: the first time in many decades. Because and Clay, you 414 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 2: know what number one is? 415 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: Right? 416 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 3: I would, yeah, I do, Buck, But I bet a 417 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 3: huge percentage of our audience is going to have their 418 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 3: minds blown because it would have taken me, like twenty 419 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 3: beers to guess this one as the biggest most popular 420 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 3: beer in America. 421 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: I would have assumed cors Light would have been my 422 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: second guest, just to put that out. 423 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 3: I would have been like, pour Miller Lite. I would 424 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: have gone maybe mic Ultra. I know Mick Ultra is popular. 425 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 3: Like I would have guessed like those would have been 426 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 3: the four if you ask me right now, the four 427 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 3: most popular beers in America. 428 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: Nikola Ultra. You're running like an ironman sometime soon come on, I. 429 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 3: Think, look when you're when you are trying to be 430 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 3: somewhat healthy in your beer drinking, which I realize is 431 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: an oxymoron. I certainly am not stunned that people would 432 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: try to drink the lowest calorie beer, because again, if 433 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,479 Speaker 3: you're choosing a light beer, you're not choosing based on taste. 434 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 2: It really does tell you something now that two guys 435 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: go to a bar, one orders michelob Ultra and the 436 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 2: other orders bud Light, and the michelob Ultra guys like, Haha, 437 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: nice bud light there, buddy. 438 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: You know what's going on with you? Right? Whereas back 439 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: in the. 440 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: Day anyway, Okay, the number one beer in America is 441 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 2: now Modello, and I now I assume that Modello is 442 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: actually I don't know anything really about Modello, although I 443 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 2: know it's marketed primarily to Hispanic drinkers. Yeah, so the 444 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 2: large Hispanic population in America likes Modello. I guess you 445 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 2: could say, you know, well, I don't want to say anything. 446 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 2: Is the bud light of something, But the Budweiser of 447 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: the Hispanic community, if you will, is Modello. And so 448 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: this is number one. But what I think is so interesting, Clay, 449 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: to get to the politics of this for a second, 450 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: is that the effort that's underway right now. You see 451 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: this with the New York Times, there's all this analysis 452 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 2: now that's popping up like. 453 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 5: Okay, Like, so bud lights sales are down a lot, 454 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 5: but you know they had been declining for a while, 455 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 5: and they really don't want the right and conservatism broadly 456 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 5: to feel like, hold on a second, we can actually 457 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 5: do this. 458 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: You go super woke and we can bring your brand 459 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: to its knees. 460 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 2: So there's a feverish rewriting of recent history that's going on. 461 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 3: That's right, and Buck, I tweeted about this yesterday. I 462 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 3: saw you tweeting about that New York Times article where 463 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 3: they're like, hey, you know, bud Light was already suffering 464 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 3: even though it had been the number one beer for 465 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 3: twenty two straight years. They're trying to argue that it 466 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 3: wasn't really brought on as much by the boycott, that 467 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 3: there were other challenges. Here's something that I think is interesting, 468 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 3: and some people may have seen me sharing this data. 469 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,719 Speaker 3: I think the first brand to actually get bud lighted 470 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 3: was the NBA, the National Basketball Association. And I think 471 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 3: that because the sports media is so liberal, they refuse 472 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 3: to acknowledge how many people had stopped watching the NBA. 473 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 3: I shared yesterday on Twitter, Buck thirty year history of 474 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 3: NBA Finals rankings, ratings going all the way back to win, 475 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 3: you and your beloved New York Knicks were actually in 476 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 3: the mix to win championships. The numbers have completely tanked, 477 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 3: and they've tanked. 478 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: In a way. 479 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 3: Four of the five lowest rated NBA finals have all 480 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 3: occurred since the NBA put Black Lives Matter on the 481 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 3: court and went full woke. And they don't want to 482 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 3: acknowledge it. The sports media doesn't for the same reason 483 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 3: that The New York Times is trying now to pretend 484 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 3: that the bud Light thing might be connected to something else, 485 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 3: because they don't want it to become understood that going 486 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 3: woke is a disaster for brands, so they try to 487 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 3: cover up what's clearly going on. And I think this 488 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 3: is I think this is wildly important with bud Light 489 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 3: buck because I think they're going to be teaching this 490 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 3: in marketing classes for the next several generations. Hey, this 491 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 3: is what happens when you alienate your core consumer. This 492 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 3: is how effectively a brand commits suicide. And there had 493 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 3: not been a public acknowledgment like this. People had talked about, oh, 494 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 3: left wing boycotts and all these things. There had never 495 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 3: been a group of just normal dudes, I would say, 496 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 3: in general, beer drinkers who just said I'm done and 497 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 3: actually took it to a brands as clearly as occurred here. 498 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 2: Your NBA example is particularly to me because, as I've 499 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: told you, and I'm very outspoken about actively avoiding most 500 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 2: professional sports leagues in America now and I do so 501 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: you know, it's an intentional thing. It's not just it's 502 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: not that I don't Ever, I never found it interesting. 503 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 2: I did grow up going to Knicks games, watching the Knicks, 504 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: caring a lot about the NBA, thinking it was all 505 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 2: really cool, and change my mind over time because of 506 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 2: what happened. But I think about things like, I mean, 507 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 2: Lebron James is the premier NBA player, right, although I 508 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 2: guess now it's kind of this guy joking, which is interesting. 509 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 3: But yeah, Lebron's starting to fade, but he's still the 510 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 3: number one draw. 511 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: Right even he's still the biggest name in the in 512 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: the NBA. 513 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: But didn't Lebron James tweet something out about a police 514 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 2: officer like he needs to like get his or did 515 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: he he docks him? Oh he's next, that's right, he's next. 516 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, he saved this police officer, I believe in the 517 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 3: Cleveland area, saved a girl who was going to be 518 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 3: stabbed to death, potentially shot the girl with the knife, 519 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 3: all on Dame Lebron, Yeah, all on video. Clearly like 520 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 3: saved this girl's life, probably certainly saved her from serious injury. 521 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 3: And Lebron posted a screenshot of that police officer and 522 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 3: said he's next in the wake of the George Floyd protests, 523 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 3: and yeah, I think Lebron destroyed the NBA's brand. 524 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: I really do. And they're refusing to acknowledge it. 525 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: I really think this, That's exactly what I'm gonna I mean, 526 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 2: Lebron James is as a as a person, as a 527 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 2: public person, a disgrace. He's amazing at basketball. Congratulations, God 528 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: gave him a gift. He's fantastic at basketball. When I 529 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 2: pulled up the Thekey of Brant incident, I've seen you 530 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: can see it on video yourself. A cop is watching, 531 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: or you know, is there as two girls, both young 532 00:27:55,680 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 2: black girls, are in some kind of altercation and he's 533 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: yelling stop, stop, stop, and one girl has a knife 534 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 2: in her hand is swinging it back to stab to 535 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 2: death the other girl. The cop had been yelling stop, 536 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: stop stop. If he didn't shoot, he would have been 537 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: effectively a complicit bystander as a law enforcement officer in 538 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 2: this murder. And Lebron James tweeted out your next hashtag 539 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 2: accountability about the cop YEP. Now, that's not just wrong, 540 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: that's nefarious. That's not just wrong, that's insidious. And it's 541 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 2: not just Lebron James or have been other players who've 542 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 2: done similar things. And there are other players who are 543 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 2: weighing and very heavily or former players weighing very heavily 544 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: into politics. But I think that Lebron James has Look 545 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: he's changed among others, and it's certainly team policies too, 546 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: but he's changed my. 547 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: View of that league. I won't watch it anymore. 548 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 3: Well, and this is important, Buck, because the numbers reflect 549 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 3: that there are many people like you, and the NBA 550 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 3: now is furiously trying to backpedal from politics. Because again, 551 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 3: four of the five lowest rated NBA finals in the 552 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 3: last thirty years have happened since the NBA went full woke. 553 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 3: And if you look, you can go check on my 554 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 3: Twitter feed. We'll put it up at Clay and Buck. 555 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 3: The graphic you can see. Basically around twenty seventeen, I 556 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 3: would say, is when the NBA lost its mind with 557 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 3: wokeness and your recall buck. You probably remember this story. 558 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 3: That's when they pulled the All Star Game out of 559 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 3: Charlotte over the transgender bathroom bill there and refused to 560 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 3: allow Charlotte North Carolina to host that game. And they 561 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 3: did it, Adam Silver. Everybody was praised for, you know, 562 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 3: being super woke there. It's interesting because they just went 563 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 3: to Salt Lake City. We're number one in Salt Lake City. 564 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 3: We love you guys. The Jazz hosted the All Star Game, 565 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 3: lowest rated All Star Game ever. Adam Silver said, we're 566 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 3: not going to combat the transgender laws that have been 567 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 3: passed in Utah and we're not going to take any 568 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 3: action about it because we don't think that's our job anymore. Well, well, 569 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 3: that's interesting because so many people have abandoned. I think 570 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 3: it's worth kind of putting a pin in that and 571 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 3: paying attention to it because bud Light is built on it. 572 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 2: When a young mom heard a preborn ad a message 573 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,479 Speaker 2: about the Preborn Network of clinics, the lives of her 574 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 2: family changed dramatically. 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You can also go download the 600 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app and you'll. 601 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: Be able to listen to us anywhere. 602 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 3: As I know many of you will be traveling as 603 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 3: it now moves into the summer season vacation time. I'm 604 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 3: gonna be up in Cooperstown, New York. I cannot wait 605 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 3: to go to the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame 606 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 3: and check out that area, and then I'll be in 607 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 3: New York City as I was mentioning earlier later in 608 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 3: the week next week, but Buck, we had so much 609 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 3: reaction roleing in through our VIPs, and I would encourage 610 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 3: you as always to go check out Clayanbuck dot com 611 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 3: where you can sign up to be a VIP. You 612 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 3: can get full three hours I believe, I think maybe 613 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 3: or at least a lot of video associated with this show. 614 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 3: If you are a VIP, but you have some of 615 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 3: those emails in front of you, Buck. 616 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 2: Yes, I go to Clayandbuck dot com. Please subscribe and 617 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: you can get this instant access to the Clay and 618 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 2: Buck box that goes right to our team. So here 619 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 2: we go, Larry. Okay, now there there are a couple 620 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 2: of people now. The Mike Pence interview yesterday, as we 621 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 2: discussed in the second hour, a lot of people really 622 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 2: appreciated it. No one called in really to take issue 623 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 2: with it, but we did get some memia. Yea. 624 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: So here's one, Larry Wright. 625 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 2: Hey, Clay, did you forget about the Capitol protesters shouting 626 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: hang Mike Pence and Trump doing nothing about it. Trump 627 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 2: demands loyalty but has never expected to return the favor. 628 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 2: Your insistent that everyone including Biden, promised to pardon Trump 629 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: is the dumbest thing I've heard on talk radio in decades. 630 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 2: I'll let you respond to Larry. 631 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: On that one. So the dumbest thing on talk radio 632 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: in decades. 633 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 3: Maybe a little bit of hyperbole, I mean, if it 634 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 3: is the dumbest thing on radio ever, I mean, I 635 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 3: guess I'll just accept it. Look, I think this is 636 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 3: important on principle, and certainly, let me just say this. 637 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 3: You can think I'm an imbecile, you can think I'm 638 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 3: an idiot. You can totally disagree. I don't expect everybody 639 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 3: to agree with every single opinion that you hear on 640 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 3: this program. In fact, you're turning off your brain. I 641 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 3: think if you agree with anybody on one hundred percent 642 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 3: of anything. And by the way, my wife might co 643 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 3: sign that email, right, But Mike Pence and we talked 644 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 3: about this some in the second hour, but I think 645 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 3: it's worth that going. Mike Pence's entire campaign is predicated 646 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 3: on the idea that he's going to do the right thing, 647 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 3: whether or not it's popular. That's what he said he 648 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 3: did on January sixth. You can agree or disagree with 649 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 3: his decision on January sixth, but Mike Pence said, I 650 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 3: stood for the Constitution. I made the right decision for 651 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 3: the country on January sixth. If that is your brand, 652 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 3: If your brand is I will do what's right, even 653 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 3: when people come after me for making that choice. To me, 654 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 3: deciding that a president and a current leading candidate for 655 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 3: president should not be able to be put in prison 656 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 3: by his chief political adversary is the very definition of principle. 657 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 3: So one of the reasons that I went so aggressively 658 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 3: after Mike Pence is because I think he is blowing 659 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 3: up the entire justification for his presidential campaign over this. Now, 660 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that Trump has treated him flawlessly. Certainly 661 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 3: he hasn't, right, but we've talked about this a lot. 662 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 3: There are any number of people we went after Trump 663 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,479 Speaker 3: because we said it wasn't fair that he ripped Kayley 664 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 3: Mcanaine when he did. We said that was wrong based 665 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 3: on how much of a war year she had been 666 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 3: for him. We're gonna call balls and strikes on this program. 667 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 3: I don't agree with everything Trump did either, but the 668 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 3: idea that you could be as vice president and you 669 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 3: could be okay with him being put in handcuffs and 670 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 3: put in prison for the rest of his life, you 671 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 3: have an opportunity to tell millions of people on this 672 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 3: show that you won't stand for it, that you will 673 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 3: stand for principal. Frankly, I got fired up. Everybody knows 674 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 3: we talked about it earlier. We played it for you 675 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 3: if you missed it. I think he's just wrong here, Buck, 676 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 3: and so I disagree with the email. Everybody's certainly entitled 677 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 3: to think that I'm the dumbest person on radio he's 678 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 3: ever heard. 679 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 2: I mean to be fair, if President Buck, you know, 680 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 2: if people were going to throw Clay in prison for 681 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 2: his absurd take on elevated treadmill walking. You know, while 682 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 2: he may be wrong on the merits of that, I'm 683 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 2: not going to let him, as President Buck rot in 684 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 2: prison on this one. As I have said, I appreciate that. 685 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,919 Speaker 2: Let's just go Jenna here, she writes, let's not forget. 686 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 2: Pence has also said he won't pardon any of the 687 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 2: January sixth convictions. He doesn't see anything wrong with how 688 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 2: they were treated. I wrote him off as soon as 689 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 2: he said that. He comes off as holier than now 690 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 2: in conness ending. So a lot of you know, in 691 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 2: the email box Clay, a lot of support, a couple 692 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 2: of people thinking that, you know that Penn's got the 693 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 2: rough stuff yesterday on the show, and uh and there 694 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 2: you have it. When Clay's fired up. By the way, 695 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 2: it's uh quite a spectful if you if you watch 696 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 2: us on the video, go to claybuck dot com you 697 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 2: can see it. 698 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, man, Clay is feisty. 699 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 3: I got fired up about it. I really did, because 700 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 3: I think he was wrong. You're welcome to think that 701 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 3: I'm the dumbest person who's ever existed on radio though, 702 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 3: and you know what, some days, my wife would sign 703 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 3: off on that opinion as well. 704 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: Talk to you tomorrow.