WEBVTT - Drive Time: DeShon Elliott Chat, AFC West Preview with Matt McMullen

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Miami Dolphins Podcast Network.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. Back to throw to

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<v Speaker 2>a looking clips about.

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<v Speaker 3>A wide Olphen touchdown time, Rick cal uncolievable? Just blue

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<v Speaker 3>bye for a second time.

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<v Speaker 2>You knew where he was going right away.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to hit that man.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna help you.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone will keep on your man away Wattle Wadle to

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<v Speaker 3>a shotgun, back to throw, looking at them.

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<v Speaker 2>Up myers touchdown?

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<v Speaker 3>Man, it's Waddle his sixth touchdown.

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<v Speaker 4>Pat, how's the King?

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<v Speaker 3>Drive Time with Travis Wingfield begins. Now let me check

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<v Speaker 3>fans and welcome to the Drive Time podcast, part of

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<v Speaker 3>How's it going everybody? We are officially into the summer

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<v Speaker 3>months now, and that means more preview content coming your

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<v Speaker 3>way to the AFC West is up.

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<v Speaker 4>Today.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna talk Chiefs, Broncos, Raiders and Chargers with Matt

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<v Speaker 3>McMullen from Chiefs dot Com. Plus we're also gonna hear

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<v Speaker 3>from one of my favorite people on the team, my

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<v Speaker 3>favorite interviews, Toshaun Elliott New Dolphins safety. We'll walk and

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<v Speaker 3>talk with him all of that much more from the

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<v Speaker 3>Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Trading Complex. This

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<v Speaker 3>is the Drive Time Podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>J Jeff.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go ahead and get to my chat with Dolphins

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<v Speaker 3>safety Toshaun Elliott. What's up, guys. Travis Wingfield here again

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<v Speaker 3>for another edition of one hundred Yards with me. Travis Wingfield,

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<v Speaker 3>New Dolphin safety Deshaun Elliott. Go ahead and make way

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<v Speaker 3>down the field here and talk some life and some football.

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<v Speaker 3>So you get here in South Florida. First question, I

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<v Speaker 3>always asking you, guy, why the Fins? Why did you

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<v Speaker 3>choose to come down here to Miami.

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<v Speaker 4>I felt like it was a great scheme fit for

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<v Speaker 4>me overall.

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<v Speaker 1>Does I mean, I know the championship being a that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone wants to breed here, and I know Christian, I

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of guys on the team. It just

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<v Speaker 1>they want to be winners, they want to be great.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like it was a great spot for

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<v Speaker 1>me and also just it was it for me my

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<v Speaker 1>first couple of years in the league.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been a lot of goomy.

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<v Speaker 1>Places, cold city, so coming down here waking up every

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<v Speaker 1>day and just seeing the sun out and.

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<v Speaker 4>Just knowing that, hey, I have a small saw my

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<v Speaker 4>face going to work just felt good. Yeah, I'm okay

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<v Speaker 4>with that from Texas for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>So you mentioned the scheme here, talked to U about

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<v Speaker 3>vic Fangio of what you think his defense can do

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<v Speaker 3>for your game.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, vixmand being a coach since the Civil

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<v Speaker 1>War times, so I'm sure over time he's learned a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean it, I feel like this defense is

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<v Speaker 1>a safety let defense. So I just feel like being

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<v Speaker 1>here and playing with Javon, playing Brandon, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Think that all of our games together would be great.

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<v Speaker 3>So you drop a joke there, are you the funniest

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<v Speaker 3>guy on the team? That's not who is?

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<v Speaker 1>Arguably I'm going to go top three. I'm definitely top three.

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<v Speaker 4>It's me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think WADA's pretty funny, which is crazy because I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think he was funny my first met him.

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<v Speaker 4>But he's actually pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 1>And then let me see, Jamon's not Fun's just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sort of weird. He's good on social deal, he's

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<v Speaker 1>great on social media. Oh, Christian, he's a character. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, he's Oh my god, it's crazy. How funny

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<v Speaker 1>that he first came.

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<v Speaker 3>In the league, did the chest bump with Roger Goodell

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<v Speaker 3>on the stage.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you did do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he's a year before or that same year

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<v Speaker 1>as when he did the splits when.

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<v Speaker 4>They won the championship. That was crazy. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 4>what he had going on there. The first time I

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<v Speaker 4>met him, I said, brother, what was that? He said?

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<v Speaker 4>But I was just excited, So fifteen crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy. So I mentioned this year before it came

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<v Speaker 3>on here. One thing that presses me about you is

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<v Speaker 3>how you play it through hair on fire one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>miles an hour at all times. And I'm always curious.

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<v Speaker 3>That has to be like how you live your entire

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<v Speaker 3>life right fast paced all times.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing is is like.

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<v Speaker 1>I put one hundred and ten percent effort in everything

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<v Speaker 1>I do. Usually off the field, I'm not as like

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to see me. When I'm on the field,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not as nice. I'm a very cool, colmon collected, happy,

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<v Speaker 1>go lucky, funny guy when I'm off the field. But

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<v Speaker 1>when my mom on the field, I'm trying to rip

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<v Speaker 1>your head off.

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<v Speaker 4>She's my language. Guys. I'm sorry I forgot about the

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<v Speaker 4>cursing thing, but I like it. Yeah. I love ball, man,

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<v Speaker 4>I just love ball. I love playing for my teammates.

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<v Speaker 4>I love playing for my guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And once they see it, Once this team sees how

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<v Speaker 1>much I love them, They'll win a rally with me

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<v Speaker 1>and play play the same way.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, speaking that, I know, you know brand Jones

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<v Speaker 3>going back to your college days. Anybody else you kind

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<v Speaker 3>of hit it off with so far.

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<v Speaker 1>I know Chubb as well because me and Chub I

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<v Speaker 1>met him at the College Football Awards all last year

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<v Speaker 1>in college together, and I met I met Jalen Phillips,

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<v Speaker 1>du Brandon and then hal Javon and Varon from Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>Song A couple of those guys, Jayalen, me.

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<v Speaker 4>And Jyalen have the same agent.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, this was the first time where I have came

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<v Speaker 1>to a team and I've already known so many players

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<v Speaker 1>on the team.

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<v Speaker 4>It's crazy. I've already had so many friends on this team.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never seen this before.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like almost an exclusively ordered in Texas backfield.

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<v Speaker 4>You guess exactly. It's crazy Dolphin Safety, thank you, brother,

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<v Speaker 4>thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, he never disappoints to Sean Elliott. There

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<v Speaker 3>he goes let's go ahead and take our first break

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<v Speaker 3>and get right into the AFC West preview on the

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<v Speaker 3>other side with Matt McMullen from Chiefs dot Com. That's

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<v Speaker 3>next your host, Travis Wingfield Draft Time Podcast, brought to

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<v Speaker 3>you by Auto Nation and please help me and welcoming

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<v Speaker 3>in our guest today from the Cheese. He's a senior

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<v Speaker 3>team reporter for the defending World champions Matt McMullen. Matt,

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<v Speaker 3>how are we doing? Man? Was my Andy Reid impression

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<v Speaker 3>terrible or really bad?

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<v Speaker 4>Now?

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<v Speaker 5>That was pretty good. It did a good job with that, Travis.

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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate having me on, man. This should be a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of fun. Our ring ceremony was last night, So

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a little bit tired, but I am here bright

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<v Speaker 5>and early just for you to talk some AFC West football.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, rub it in, rub it in. So we talked

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<v Speaker 3>about winning a championship, man, Like, That's one of the

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<v Speaker 3>things I first wanted to ask you here because I

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<v Speaker 3>like picture being in the press box at a Super

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<v Speaker 3>Bowl and like seeing the Dolphins, you know, ahead when

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<v Speaker 3>the clock hit triple zeros, and I'm not sure I

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<v Speaker 3>can really even imagine that SCENARIOO, So can you maybe

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<v Speaker 3>helped me live vicariously through you. What was that like

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<v Speaker 3>last year for you covering a super Bowl winning team?

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<v Speaker 2>It was unbelievable. It is really the best way to

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<v Speaker 2>put it.

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<v Speaker 4>So.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up a Chiefs fan.

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<v Speaker 5>I grew up in Kansas City, have been rooting for

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<v Speaker 5>the Chiefs my entire life, and I just so happened

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<v Speaker 5>to get a job here. When you work in sports,

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<v Speaker 5>as you know, you never really plan on working for

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<v Speaker 5>your favorite team, and sometimes it just works out. And

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<v Speaker 5>for me, yeah, this is my job. But I come

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<v Speaker 5>in here every day and can't believe I get to

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<v Speaker 5>do this, and not only to work for my favorite team,

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<v Speaker 5>but to see my favorite team win the Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 5>to go on the field afterward and to see the

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<v Speaker 5>confetti flying and to congratulate the guys, and to really

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<v Speaker 5>feel a part of it. I really can't describe it

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<v Speaker 5>because I feel like I'm dreaming half the time. I

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<v Speaker 5>grew up watching the Chiefs, and the Chiefs were at

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<v Speaker 5>times competitive but never came close to being a Super

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<v Speaker 5>Bowl contender. So the fact that my tenure with the

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<v Speaker 5>team coincides with this unbelievable run that we're on has

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<v Speaker 5>just been so much fun and to be at the

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<v Speaker 5>ring ceremony last night to put the ring on. I

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<v Speaker 5>had my ring from twenty nineteen on already, so I

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<v Speaker 5>was rocking two rings last night, just walking around to

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<v Speaker 5>share it with my coworkers and the players and the

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<v Speaker 5>coaches and everybody is just so special. So it's awesome.

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<v Speaker 5>And I do not take it for granted, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think I actually value the one that we

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<v Speaker 5>just won even more than the one in twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 5>because twenty nineteen, it all happened so fast, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you couldn't believe it, and before you know it, we

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<v Speaker 5>won the Super Bowl and it was amazing, and I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't really have a lot of time to process it.

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<v Speaker 5>This most recent one, I think I had a better

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<v Speaker 5>appreciation for how difficult it is to get there and

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<v Speaker 5>to basically have the same scenario we had last year

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<v Speaker 5>where we lost to the Bengals in the AFC title Game.

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<v Speaker 5>To beat them this time around at home and then

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<v Speaker 5>to go win it was pretty satisfying. So it was

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<v Speaker 5>amazing and hopefully we can get some more here in

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<v Speaker 5>the years to come.

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to say I have a fieling with

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<v Speaker 3>that quarterback and that coach, you guys will be right

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<v Speaker 3>back in that mix for this season and years to

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<v Speaker 3>come as well. There, so good looking up for you,

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<v Speaker 3>looking forward to that game over in Germany. And we'll

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<v Speaker 3>get to the Chiefs here and just once second, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead and kick it off with them for our

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<v Speaker 3>four team AFC West Divisional preview here. But I want

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<v Speaker 3>to go ahead and first start with just the thirty

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<v Speaker 3>thousand foot bird's eye view of the AFC because going

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<v Speaker 3>into last year, Matt, and this is this is why

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<v Speaker 3>I love doing these these you know, deep dives on

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<v Speaker 3>these divisions, on these other teams across the league, because

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<v Speaker 3>we all have these expectations for teams every year. You

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<v Speaker 3>think you know what's gonna happen, but the truth is

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<v Speaker 3>you never do. And you know, you have to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of appreciate the Chiefs for being this consummate, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>consistent winner they have been for so long. Because the

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<v Speaker 3>Broncos were supposed to be an upstart last year and

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<v Speaker 3>it just didn't work out that way. The Raiders, coming

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<v Speaker 3>off a playoff Berth kind of reverted back to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a down season, and the Chargers you know, got back

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<v Speaker 3>into the playoffs. But I think they had higher expectations

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<v Speaker 3>than a first round exit last year. Give us your

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty three birds eye view of this division top storylines.

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<v Speaker 3>What you're looking forward to the most year in the

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<v Speaker 3>AFC West this season?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the Chiefs have won this division seven consecutive years,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think if you're looking at it from the outside,

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<v Speaker 5>you might think the Chiefs just owned the division. It's easy,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's not. And even when teams have down seasons,

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<v Speaker 5>divisional opponents know each other so well that these games

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<v Speaker 5>are always difficult. And the Chiefs have won so many

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<v Speaker 5>games against their division during this run of success that

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<v Speaker 5>they've had. I'm looking it up right now as we speak,

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<v Speaker 5>and the Patrick Mahomes era, these divisional games, they're always close,

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<v Speaker 5>but the Chiefs typically find a way to win them,

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<v Speaker 5>and they have the number for you right now. The

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<v Speaker 5>Chiefs are twenty six and four against the AFC West

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<v Speaker 5>since twenty eighteen, which is when Mahomes became the starter.

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<v Speaker 5>One of those games Mahomes didn't play, it was when

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<v Speaker 5>the Chiefs had already locked up the division in twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 5>So essentially they are twenty six and three against AFC

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<v Speaker 5>West opponents. Since twenty eighteen. Frequently close games, but they

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<v Speaker 5>find a way to pull them out. Coach Read is

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<v Speaker 5>so good at this at preparing the guys for these

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<v Speaker 5>divisional matchups. They actually work on divisional opponents during OTAs,

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<v Speaker 5>so in May and in June they have entire practices

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<v Speaker 5>that are dedicated to divisional opponents to go through the

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<v Speaker 5>basics and establish the muscle memory and the mental side

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<v Speaker 5>of things so that when they get to these games

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<v Speaker 5>during the season, it's not new information. So the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 5>take these games so seriously. It is not easy to

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<v Speaker 5>win seven consecutive division titles, and they're going to try

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<v Speaker 5>to get an eighth consecutive division title here this upcoming season.

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<v Speaker 5>But these other teams in the division are getting pretty

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<v Speaker 5>tired of the Chiefs, as we all know, and they're

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<v Speaker 5>going to give their best shot, so it won't be easy.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe the Chiefs can do it and can win

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<v Speaker 5>an eighth consecutive division title, but the Chargers are obviously

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<v Speaker 5>a very talented team. The Raiders are going through a

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<v Speaker 5>bit of a transition right now. But Jimmy Garoppolo has

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<v Speaker 5>been to a Super Bowl, as Chiefs fans know, so

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<v Speaker 5>we know he can play quarterback for the Raiders if

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<v Speaker 5>he's healthy, and the Broncos I believe will be better

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<v Speaker 5>with Sean Payton. So it'll be tough, but I believe

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<v Speaker 5>the Chiefs can do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I almost think the Broncos are more intriguing this

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<v Speaker 3>year just because of the fact of we hadn't seen

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<v Speaker 3>a year like that from Russell Wilson. How he bounces

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<v Speaker 3>back is of utmost intrigued to me. But I want

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<v Speaker 3>to go back to the hometown team there, your Kansas

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<v Speaker 3>City Chiefs. The Dolphins will technically play a road game

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<v Speaker 3>at Kansas City, but it will be in Germany in

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<v Speaker 3>week number nine, Sunday, November the fifth, at nine to

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<v Speaker 3>thirty am here in the East our kickoff time for

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<v Speaker 3>US East and eight thirty for you guys out there

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<v Speaker 3>in the Central time zone. But let's talk about this

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<v Speaker 3>Chiefs team in their offseason, because you know, I look

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<v Speaker 3>at how this team gets built, and it's funny because

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<v Speaker 3>it's a lot of ways. The Dolphins offense has been

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<v Speaker 3>built around the strengths of to a tongue of by lower.

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<v Speaker 3>I should say that it has been and that the

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<v Speaker 3>Chiefs have almost done the same thing here with Mahomes

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<v Speaker 3>in the sense of, you know, to what they want

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<v Speaker 3>to maximize run after catch and the ability to really

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<v Speaker 3>maximize his ballplacement, accuracy and decision making. And for Mahomes,

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<v Speaker 3>they really do a good job of complimenting his playmaking

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<v Speaker 3>skill set. I'm curious kind of just to get your

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<v Speaker 3>take on that, because I'm looking at an offensive line

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<v Speaker 3>that has an argument for the best in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>You obviously have the best tied end in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 3>but the receiver position was an area they thought we

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<v Speaker 3>can really kind of, you know, scale back here. And

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<v Speaker 3>obviously we get the beneficiary of that with Tyreek Kill

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<v Speaker 3>coming here and having a career season, But just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of want to hear your take on how they built

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<v Speaker 3>this offense around Patrick Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'll mention too before I get into that, that

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<v Speaker 5>I actually was in Germany a few weeks ago to

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<v Speaker 5>do some advanced marketing for the Chiefs. The atmosphere in

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<v Speaker 5>Frankfurt's going to be incredible, so I think Dolphins fan

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<v Speaker 5>should be excited about it too. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 5>so much fun. The German fans are so into football

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<v Speaker 5>and it's going to be amazing. So I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 5>But to answer your question, the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes

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<v Speaker 5>went through a bit of a evolution over the last

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<v Speaker 5>three seasons, where early in his career in two HAS eighteen,

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<v Speaker 5>two HAS nineteen, and early twenty twenty, it was about

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<v Speaker 5>the big play primarily, and Dolphins fans know all about

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<v Speaker 5>Tyreek Hill. Now he did a lot of that in

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<v Speaker 5>Kansas City as well, utilizing Patrick Mahomes's big arm. But

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<v Speaker 5>in twenty twenty one and last season, the Chiefs transitioned

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<v Speaker 5>to a bit more of a dynamic, varied offensive attack

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<v Speaker 5>where there were multiple receivers who could beat you. And

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<v Speaker 5>maybe there's not one clear cut number one guy outside

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<v Speaker 5>of Travis Kelce in the receiver room last year or

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<v Speaker 5>this year, but there's four or five guys that can

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<v Speaker 5>all be really good, effective, solid players. And that's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of what the Chiefs are going to roll into this

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<v Speaker 5>season with as well, where you have Travis Kelsey is

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<v Speaker 5>the main target in this offense, but then several receivers

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<v Speaker 5>who are all talented, who can all make a big play.

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<v Speaker 5>And maybe in the past in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen

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<v Speaker 5>and in twenty twenty the defense kind of knew all right,

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<v Speaker 5>it's going to most likely be Travis Kelce or Tyreek Hill.

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<v Speaker 5>But now at the Chiefs offense, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 5>Travis Kelce or maybe Sky Moore, maybe Mark Weis, Veldez Scantling,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe Rashi Rice, maybe Justin Watson, maybe Kadarius Tony. It's

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<v Speaker 5>a whole bunch of guys that you can rely on

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<v Speaker 5>to make plays. And Mahomes also evolved his game where

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<v Speaker 5>he's not relying on just one or two players. He's

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<v Speaker 5>comfortable spreading the football all over the place and frankly

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<v Speaker 5>taking what the defense gives him on occasion. So his

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<v Speaker 5>evolution as a quarterback. He was already so good early

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<v Speaker 5>in his career, but he's only gotten better. And really

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<v Speaker 5>that was the next step for him, I think, is

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<v Speaker 5>just trusting everyone in the offense, and the offense has

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<v Speaker 5>been built around him in that way where there's so

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<v Speaker 5>many people he can attack defenses with.

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<v Speaker 3>It certainly is a benefit to have a quarterback of

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<v Speaker 3>that caliber that you can kind of reshape your offense

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<v Speaker 3>in different ways, and he still finds ways to have success.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm such a big fan of his, not just

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<v Speaker 3>for the playmaking that I think stands out so much.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I joked with one of my previous

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<v Speaker 3>guests on one of these divisional preview podcasts about how

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<v Speaker 3>that that diving Madden throw, Like, what are we doing

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<v Speaker 3>this with this Aden game? Where he's diving and throwing

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<v Speaker 3>footballs when he doesn't have to do that. It just

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<v Speaker 3>to me is like a signal of looking for the

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<v Speaker 3>wrong things at quarterback because Mahomes is so alien like

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<v Speaker 3>in that way that we have this expectation of guys

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<v Speaker 3>doing that all the time. It's like, No, Mahomes is

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<v Speaker 3>great at that for sure. What makes him so special

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<v Speaker 3>is that he does win from the pocket as a

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<v Speaker 3>processor and really just picks defenses apart. And he's grown

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<v Speaker 3>so much in that regard. So it's been cool to

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<v Speaker 3>watch As a fan from Afar always appreciated Mahomes his

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<v Speaker 3>game and the Chiefs team in general. So I just

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<v Speaker 3>love watching it. Who doesn't. I mean, it's peak football.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's been cool to watch. But so we know

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<v Speaker 3>about the offense, we know about the offensive line that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Trey Smith and Creed Humphrey are two of

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite guys coming out that year. They both go

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<v Speaker 3>to the Chiefs and you know, being home run picks

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<v Speaker 3>for him. But I want to hear your take on

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<v Speaker 3>this defense and kind of how this has been put

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<v Speaker 3>together because we know about Ris Jones is good for

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<v Speaker 3>double digit sacks every single year. Big Charles Amenahue fan.

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<v Speaker 3>They go first round this year with Fau. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>going to try to pronounce the name right now on

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<v Speaker 3>the spot that you guys got there in the first round.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty fun linebacker corps, a defensive backfield that last year

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<v Speaker 3>had one of my guys at Washington State Cougar jump

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<v Speaker 3>up with some big plays there in Jalen Watson. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of want to get your take on the defense,

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<v Speaker 3>how it's constructed, and how it kind of compiments that offense,

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<v Speaker 3>because I think that's one of the things the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 3>do well is they compment their entire team offense and defense.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure well from a national perspective because Patrick Mahomes and

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<v Speaker 5>Travis Kelcey and the Chiefs offense is so annually awesome.

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<v Speaker 5>The defense doesn't get talked about a lot, but I

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<v Speaker 5>really think they should, especially this season. Now they have

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<v Speaker 5>to go out and do it. Football isn't one on paper,

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<v Speaker 5>but I truly believe this defense has what it takes

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<v Speaker 5>to be the best defense Mahomes has had since he's

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<v Speaker 5>been the Chiefs quarterback, which is an exciting prospect considering

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<v Speaker 5>he's already won two rings and is a few seasons

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<v Speaker 5>here as a starting quarterback. The thing with the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 5>defense right now is last year they invested a ton

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<v Speaker 5>of draft capital into infusing some youth into this group,

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<v Speaker 5>and the guys made a ton of plays and really

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<v Speaker 5>grew up quickly. I believe thirteen rookies played for the

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<v Speaker 5>Chiefs in the Super Bowl, and a bunch of those

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<v Speaker 5>guys were on defense, particularly in the secondary. Guys like

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<v Speaker 5>Joshua Williams, who's a fourth round pick. He's a corner

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<v Speaker 5>for the Chiefs. He mentioned Jalen Watson, a seventh round

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<v Speaker 5>pick that it had interceptions in both the AFC Title

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<v Speaker 5>Game and the divisional round game against the Jags. Brian

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<v Speaker 5>Cook is a safety at A Cincinnati who's a second

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<v Speaker 5>round pick. George carloftis at A Purdue, was our first

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<v Speaker 5>round pick last year, one of them a defensive end,

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<v Speaker 5>and then Trent McDuffie, a corner, another first round pick

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<v Speaker 5>last year. I believe the Tyreek hiltrade led to one

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<v Speaker 5>of those guys. He's a corner from Washington. So the

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<v Speaker 5>Chiefs infused all this youth into their defense. Those guys

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<v Speaker 5>made plays last year, and now they've had a chance

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<v Speaker 5>to go through a full offseason program and get comfortable

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<v Speaker 5>within the Chiefs defense, and I only think they're going

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<v Speaker 5>to get better. So I really believe from a depth perspective,

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<v Speaker 5>in a talent perspective, this has a chance to be

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<v Speaker 5>the best Chiefs defense in a long time. And considering

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<v Speaker 5>how successful the team has been already and how good

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<v Speaker 5>we feel about the offense, that's certainly pretty exciting for

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<v Speaker 5>Chiefs fans.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was gonna say a scary thought for the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of the AFC West, which we'll get too here

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<v Speaker 3>in just one second. A couple of more key acquisitions

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<v Speaker 3>there for the Chiefs. Juwan Taylor obviously replaces Orlando Brown

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<v Speaker 3>Junior on the offensive line. I mentioned Charles Amena who

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<v Speaker 3>get him back. Drew Trank will I think is a

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<v Speaker 3>really underrated acquisition there the linebacker corp. And then Mike

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<v Speaker 3>Edwards as well. So we talk about, you know, trouble

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<v Speaker 3>for the rest of the AFC West. Heere, let's go

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<v Speaker 3>ahead and pivot to. You know, I've had this like

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<v Speaker 3>love hate relationship with the Chargers over my entire life

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<v Speaker 3>because back when they had like Phil Rivers, I always

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<v Speaker 3>was a big Chargers fan. I know you probably hate

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<v Speaker 3>hearing that. They always just kind of drafted guys I

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<v Speaker 3>liked and signed guys I liked, and we're just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like my second team there for a long time,

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<v Speaker 3>especially when they got Chris Chambers back in two thousand

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<v Speaker 3>and seven for a trade with the Miami Dolphins. But

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<v Speaker 3>now I don't really feel that same way, even though

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I loved Derwin James, and you know, Joey

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<v Speaker 3>Bose is a hell of a player on offense. They

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<v Speaker 3>got a bunch of players, and Austin Ecker was a

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<v Speaker 3>guy that I like. But I think, would you still

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<v Speaker 3>consider the Chargers the biggest threat to the Chiefs right

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<v Speaker 3>now in the AFC West?

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<v Speaker 2>Right now?

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<v Speaker 5>I would From a talent perspective, they're very talented. They've

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<v Speaker 5>really been there with the Chiefs in a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>these games in recent seasons. Frankly, some of my favorite

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<v Speaker 5>regular season memories in recent years are our wins over

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<v Speaker 5>the Chargers. I think about the one in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 5>one where Travis Kelce I think it was overtime scored

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<v Speaker 5>to beat the Chargers on a big play. Maybe it

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't overtime, but late in the fourth quarter. And then

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<v Speaker 5>last year essentially the same thing happened where the Chargers

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<v Speaker 5>scored with like two minutes left, Mahomes and the offense

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<v Speaker 5>got the ball back with just a couple of plays

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<v Speaker 5>left to try to get the win, and we scored

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<v Speaker 5>to beat the Chargers and really lock up the division

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<v Speaker 5>in late November. We always have great battles against those guys.

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<v Speaker 5>Justin Herbert, I think is one of the best quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 5>in the NFL, one of the best young quarterbacks for

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<v Speaker 5>sure in the NFL. And they have so much talent

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<v Speaker 5>on that team that right now, just based on what

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<v Speaker 5>they've done and based on their roster and how it's constructed,

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<v Speaker 5>I would say that they are probably the biggest threat

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<v Speaker 5>to the Chiefs. But fortunately, I think the Chiefs at

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<v Speaker 5>this point know what it takes as well to beat them,

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<v Speaker 5>So it's always going to be a battle against the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 5>But to answer your question, yeah, I think right now

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<v Speaker 5>the Chargers would be that main contender trying to beat

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<v Speaker 5>the Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, there's two big storylines to look at with

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<v Speaker 3>this Chargers team. Really I think three actually because and

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<v Speaker 3>again going back to Philip Rivers, the health was always

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<v Speaker 3>an issue for that Chargers team. Every single year. It

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<v Speaker 3>seemed like in training camp they would lose three or

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<v Speaker 3>four starters and it was like, come on, where's the

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<v Speaker 3>football gods helping these guys out a little bit here

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<v Speaker 3>every single August. So that's one that I'm curious about

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<v Speaker 3>because last year they got hit by the injury buck again.

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<v Speaker 3>Rashaun Slaterer missed a big chunk of the season, so

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<v Speaker 3>did Joey Bosa, the aforementioned pass rusher, and Derwin James

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<v Speaker 3>as well, but also overcoming a twenty seven point collapse

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<v Speaker 3>in the playoffs. And then Brandon Staley and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>originally his first year being the fourth down analytics guy

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<v Speaker 3>that would go for it all the time, which you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just basically being informed that numbers or the numbers

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<v Speaker 3>that he gets inform him for his decisions. So I

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<v Speaker 3>get a little bit testy when I hear these analytics

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<v Speaker 3>community like it was a bad decision to trust analytics there.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's great, but I'm curious to hear your

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<v Speaker 3>perspective on brand Staley's approach to coaching, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>guess we'll go to other parts later, the playoff collapse

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<v Speaker 3>last year and then the health of the team, But

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<v Speaker 3>first your take on brand Staley and how they approached

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<v Speaker 3>this thing with the charges of being so aggressive on

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<v Speaker 3>those fourth downs.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that was kind of his thing in his first season,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think everyone kind of got enamored with it.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he went a bit back toward the median

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<v Speaker 5>this past year, and it's tough because you can't make

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<v Speaker 5>everyone happy, and I think the heavy analytics community was like,

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<v Speaker 5>what are you doing? And then the people that maybe

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<v Speaker 5>didn't want him going for the fourth bounds, but then

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<v Speaker 5>when it wasn't working out so much this past year,

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<v Speaker 5>all of a sudden, when maybe he would punt, they're like, wait,

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<v Speaker 5>I thought you're the fourth bound guy. Kind of interesting,

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, he knows his team, and I trust

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<v Speaker 5>head coaches in the NFL that they know their team,

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<v Speaker 5>they know the situations that they're in, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 5>that he was making the best decisions he felt for

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<v Speaker 5>his team at the time. But what's going to be

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<v Speaker 5>interesting for the Chargers this year is how do they

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<v Speaker 5>respond to that playoff loss? And particularly for Justin Herbert,

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<v Speaker 5>one thing that I think, as Chiefs fans we are

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<v Speaker 5>so fortunate to have witnessed is that Patrick Mahomes, very

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<v Speaker 5>early in his career won a Super Bowl. So there's

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<v Speaker 5>not the monkey on his back. There's not the oh,

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<v Speaker 5>we can't win in the playoffs or like Peyton Manning

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<v Speaker 5>had that for a long time. Right Justin Herbert as

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<v Speaker 5>a young quarterback, I think we all agree he's one

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<v Speaker 5>of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. But for a

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<v Speaker 5>while now, until he wins a playoff game and can

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<v Speaker 5>get the Chargers far in the playoffs, those things.

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<v Speaker 2>Are going to hang over his head.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm just very curious from a competitive standpoint, how

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<v Speaker 5>does he respond to that? And we're going to learn

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<v Speaker 5>a lot about Herbert and Brandon Staley from a coaching

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<v Speaker 5>perspective as well. How does he respond to that playoff loss.

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<v Speaker 5>We're going to learn a lot about those guys this season.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think there's something to that too. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of years ago, they had that really devastating

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<v Speaker 3>loss of the Houston Texans on a team that was not

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<v Speaker 3>very good that season. In the Chargers. I got blown

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<v Speaker 3>out by him there in a game that essentially would

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<v Speaker 3>have put him into the postseason and cost him to

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<v Speaker 3>a birth in the playoffs late in that twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>one season. Then, obviously, last year's second half of the

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<v Speaker 3>offense and defense was not one to write home about.

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<v Speaker 3>I just look at this off season though they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>really do a whole lot. They weren't very active. They

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<v Speaker 3>brought back Trey Pipkins and Morgan Fox. They did get

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<v Speaker 3>Eric Kendricks. I'm curious your take on their off season

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<v Speaker 3>here as you look at this team. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>when you all play those guys first, but obviously you

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<v Speaker 3>have a feel for, you know, what they're doing offensively

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<v Speaker 3>and defensively as a team in general. They go out

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<v Speaker 3>and they get Quinton Johnson in the first round. Just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of curious to your take on their offseason where

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<v Speaker 3>they got better in your estimation.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, just from my perspective, and of course I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>in the weeds with the Chargers every single day, but

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<v Speaker 5>from my perspective, it seems to me like they are

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<v Speaker 5>trying to have kind of one last run with their

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<v Speaker 5>current core of guys like Keenan Allen, who's getting up

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<v Speaker 5>there in age, Austin Eckler, Mike Williams, than defensively Joey Bosa,

0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:56.720
<v Speaker 5>Khalil Mack. They've had this core together for a while

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<v Speaker 5>now and we can all agree it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>really good players. But eventually you can't pay everyone, and

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<v Speaker 5>particularly with Justin Herbert's contract coming up here, I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 5>maybe next offseason at the earliest, the Chargers are going

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<v Speaker 5>to have to make some very tough decisions. And my

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<v Speaker 5>perception is this is their chance this season to really

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<v Speaker 5>go for it with this corps of players before they

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<v Speaker 5>have to readjust a little bit. And that's just life

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<v Speaker 5>in the NFL. I mean, the Chiefs went through that

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<v Speaker 5>with Tyreek when we traded him to Miami, where you

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<v Speaker 5>just can't afford to pay everyone, and as you evolve

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<v Speaker 5>as a team, you have to keep adjusting, keep retooling

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<v Speaker 5>the roster. And that time, frankly, might be coming for

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<v Speaker 5>the Chargers here soon where they have to say goodbye

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<v Speaker 5>to some players that have been there.

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<v Speaker 2>For a while.

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<v Speaker 5>So for me, this offseason for them was kind of

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<v Speaker 5>about keeping that corps intact. They shuffled some money around.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Quentin Johnston's a very nice player to add

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<v Speaker 5>to their offensive arsenal. But again, I think it's more

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<v Speaker 5>about keeping their group together to kind of make one

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<v Speaker 5>last run at it with this squad.

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<v Speaker 2>It was kind of the theme of their offseason.

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<v Speaker 3>And before that quarterback track comes up, right, because like

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<v Speaker 3>you mentioned, you can't pay everybody. Once that quarterback salary hits,

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<v Speaker 3>starts to get a little bit tighter on the screws

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<v Speaker 3>around the rest of the roster as well. You mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>Quentin Johnson. I think to me, like Jalen guit In

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<v Speaker 3>such an important part of that offense because of the

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<v Speaker 3>speed element he offers and him missing so much time

0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:15.960
<v Speaker 3>last year like Herbert's you know, yards per attempt went

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<v Speaker 3>way down last year. So something to keep an eye

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<v Speaker 3>on there. And just for our tracking purposes, Week number

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<v Speaker 3>one Dolphins at Chargers, So Chiefs fans will be Dolphins

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<v Speaker 3>fans in week one for a four to twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>kickoff on September tenth out there at SOFI Stadium. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead and take our last break here of the

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<v Speaker 3>podcast right here, and come back on the other side.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk some Raiders, talk some Broncos. That's next. Matt McMullen,

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<v Speaker 3>my host or my guest today, your host Travis Wingfield,

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<v Speaker 3>the Draft Time podcast, brought to you by Auto Nation,

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<v Speaker 3>rounding out the AFC West here on our summer NFL

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty three season preview. My guest today is Matt

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<v Speaker 3>McMullen from Chiefs dot Com, talking all things AFC West.

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<v Speaker 3>We let off with the Chiefs and Chargers. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead and conclude here with the Broncos and the

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<v Speaker 3>Raiders out in Life Vegas. Let's go ahead and start

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<v Speaker 3>in Denver, who is one of the most intriguing teams

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<v Speaker 3>in the entire National Football League. To me, Matt, because

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<v Speaker 3>I think we all expected a double digit win postseason

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:12.520
<v Speaker 3>birth type of team last year. It didn't go that

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<v Speaker 3>way at all. Big time struggle for the one and

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<v Speaker 3>done head coach and Nathaniel Hackett trying to get the

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<v Speaker 3>most out of Russell Wilson. So I think it starts there, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Russell Wilson, his resurgence, Sean Payton's arrival as an, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>an opponent of this team, a division rival of this team.

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<v Speaker 3>How did you view the addition of Sean Payton? What

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<v Speaker 3>do you think it does for Russell Wilson's career and

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<v Speaker 3>looking to get back on track for him.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, full transparency. I mentioned that I'm a lifelong Chiefs fan,

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<v Speaker 5>which is true, but my wife is from Boulder, Colorado.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's co.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Well, I've converted her.

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<v Speaker 5>Over the last several years here because we started dating

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<v Speaker 5>in twenty seventeen and the Chiefs have been beaten the

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<v Speaker 5>Broncos every single time.

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<v Speaker 2>Since we've been dating, which is just nuts.

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<v Speaker 5>But my father in law is a huge Broncos fan,

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<v Speaker 5>so I do have kind of an insider on the Broncos.

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<v Speaker 5>It gives me his thoughts on Denver quite often. Weird

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:07.359
<v Speaker 5>season for them last year, and I think what it

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<v Speaker 5>really said is that winning in the NFL is difficult

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<v Speaker 5>and it's not Madden, and you can't just put players

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<v Speaker 5>together on a team and it works all of a sudden.

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<v Speaker 5>Winning is hard and it takes a lot to win

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<v Speaker 5>in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>The Broncos have a very talented roster.

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<v Speaker 5>I think we all agree on that, and Russell Wilson

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<v Speaker 5>is probably a future Pro Football Hall of Famer. But

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<v Speaker 5>if a few bounces don't go your way, if the

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<v Speaker 5>cohesion isn't there immediately, if the head coach isn't the

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<v Speaker 5>best fit right away, then quickly things can go poorly,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's what happened for the Broncos last season, coupled

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<v Speaker 5>with some injuries. I certainly expect them to be better

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<v Speaker 5>this season because they are talented and Sean Payton is

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<v Speaker 5>a proven winner, a super Bowl champion. I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>necessarily what their season looks like. Kind of like you said,

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<v Speaker 5>they're very intriguing because they're a bit of an enigma.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not really sure what to expect from them, but

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<v Speaker 5>one thing I do know is they will be better

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<v Speaker 5>just because they are too talented and they have too

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<v Speaker 5>much experience on that roster, and Sean Payton is too

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<v Speaker 5>much of a winner in the NFL for them to

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<v Speaker 5>not be better. Does that translate to the playoffs? I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know, but I do think the Broncos will be

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<v Speaker 5>better this season.

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<v Speaker 3>Now. I'm always curious see how that you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>you mentioned Hall of Fame, like Sean Payton's got to

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<v Speaker 3>have his name right in that ring as well. And

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<v Speaker 3>for a guy to you know, leave a team, take

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<v Speaker 3>some time away and come back, I'm always curious see

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<v Speaker 3>how those guys respawd with their second go round. We

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 3>kind of have a similar version of that with Vic

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 3>Fangi here coaching the defense, and speaking of the Broncos,

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:36.919
<v Speaker 3>the former Broncos head coach there. I like what they

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<v Speaker 3>did on the offensive line this offseason, going out and

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<v Speaker 3>getting Mike McGlinchey and Ben Powers. That was a big

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<v Speaker 3>issue last year, and I think for Russell Wilson, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the scramble ability is great, but as you get into

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 3>your thirties sometimes that kind of deteriorates a little bit.

0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:50.119
<v Speaker 3>And the pressure he faced last year was immense with

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just they had injuries up front, the offensive

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:54.920
<v Speaker 3>line had a tough time getting all those great pass

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 3>rushers in the AFC West Bloc. So I think there

0:27:57.320 --> 0:27:59.719
<v Speaker 3>should be improvement there. But on defense, man, Like, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>curious to hear your perspective on the defense, because regardless

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 3>over the years, they just seem to like stay good,

0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 3>no matter like who's coaching or who's there, you know,

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:09.480
<v Speaker 3>personnel wise. I don't know what it is, something in

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 3>the water out in Denver probably, but they just look

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 3>good on paper again here because so many guys, especially

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<v Speaker 3>in that back end, I mean, Justin Simmons and Patrick

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<v Speaker 3>startan the second. You know Dolphins fans know him well.

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:22.920
<v Speaker 3>His father was a long time stud here in Miami.

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<v Speaker 3>Just curious to your perspective when you go into a

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 3>game against the Broncos, because for the Chiefs like that

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 3>Broncos defense is good, but the Chiefs don't seem to care.

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 3>They seem to find their way to score points anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>But when you go into those games against the Broncos,

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<v Speaker 3>well you're looking out on that defensive side of the football.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, their defense is really good, and it's really good

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 5>every single season. You mentioned the secondary, that's really the

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 5>strength of this group, but their pass rush I think

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 5>will be solid as well. They dealt with so many

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 5>injuries last year where their defense as good as it was,

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<v Speaker 5>and it was a top five scoring defense in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 5>I believe for most of the season. I think it

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<v Speaker 5>has a chance to be maybe not better, but right

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<v Speaker 5>there once again this season because they're going to have

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<v Speaker 5>some guys back healthy. Former Chief Frank Clark is a

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 5>Denver Bronco now Randy Gregory will likely be healthy this season.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think their defense has a chance to be really,

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 5>really good. This is where its Chiefs fans, we're fortunate

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 5>that we have Patrick Mahomes because he's like a cheap

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<v Speaker 5>code out there no matter how good a defense is,

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 5>but their defense deserves a lot of respect. And that's

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 5>where if their offense can just be a little bit better,

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 5>this Broncos team can really, I think improve quite a

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 5>bit this upcoming season because their offense just struggled so

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:32.200
<v Speaker 5>much last year. I think they scored more than sixteen

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 5>points only three or four times. It doesn't matter how

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 5>good your defense is. If your offense just can't score points,

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 5>it's very difficult to win. So that's where if Sean

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 5>Payton can get the Broncos offense going just a little

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 5>bit more, if they can score average twenty two to

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 5>twenty three points of games the middle of the pack,

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 5>their defense is good enough where they can be a

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 5>winning football team and maybe a playoff football team. So

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 5>that's I think the defense is the constant. I think

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 5>we all kind of know the defense is going to

0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 5>be good because it's good every year. Well will the

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 5>offense be able to turn the page and be what

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 5>maybe we thought it could have been last year.

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 3>I also like the addition of Zach Allen on that

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 3>defensive line as well, from the Arizona mccardinals should be

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 3>a good get for them up front. And then I

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 3>just look at this receiver corps and like you talk

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 3>about the offense and the struggles, it doesn't make sense

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 3>on paper that they would struggle so much. I mean,

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 3>Garrett Bowles is a good player. He missed most of

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 3>the year on the offensive line last year, but he's

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 3>a really good player. Mentioned mcglincheyan powers, they join a

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 3>guy like you know, Lloyd Cushion Barry is a high

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 3>draft pick, Quinn Minor. It's really kind of you know,

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 3>stold everyone's heart at the Senior Bowl. The big belly

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 3>exposed a couple of years ago. He's on that front.

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 3>But the receiver corps, Matt like, it's pretty damn good

0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 3>man like Courtland something's a good player. I think Jerry

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 3>Judy has high end wide receiver. One potential if you

0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 3>ever realized, is that kJ Hamiller is a good player.

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 3>Marquez Callaway like, you come in this this you know

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 3>play in the Broncos. You have lots of weapons that

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 3>can tend with on that offense. And if Russell Wilson

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 3>can get right, I think they could do what you're

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 3>talking about and get twenty two points, twenty three points

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 3>per game, don't you think that?

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and don't forget about Greg Dolsic that tight end

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:03.960
<v Speaker 5>of UCLA really athletic, exciting player at tight end. We've

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 5>seen kind of like a revolution at tight end in

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 5>the NFL over the last five or six years. You guys,

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 5>of course had Mike Koseki for a while, you know

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 5>what I'm talking about. And the she said Travis Kelce,

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 5>Greg Dolza has a chance to be that upper echelon

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:18.480
<v Speaker 5>kind of tight end in this league. Is just a

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 5>great athlete, kind of like a hybrid receiver tight end

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 5>kind of player. So Russell Wilson has weapons everywhere. And

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 5>that's the big question is can Sean Payton kind of

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 5>correct Russell Wilson and get him back to what he

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 5>was when he was in Seattle winning playoff games? And

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 5>we'll see that is the answer to the Broncos season

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 5>because everything else is really there for them. So that's

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 5>the question we'll see if Sean Payton can do it.

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 5>From a chief's perspective, I certainly hope that they don't

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 5>find too much success, right, but the talent is certainly

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:51.720
<v Speaker 5>there and the experiences there, So we'll have to see

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 5>how it plays out.

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Well, you guys will go from being Dolphins fans in

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 3>week one to Dolphins fans in week three. Is the

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 3>Broncos traveled down here for our home opener week number three,

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 3>son day, September twenty fourth, for a one o'clock kickoffs,

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 3>so hopefully they get it figured out. It doesn't happen

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 3>by a week three for those Denver Broncos. Let's go

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 3>ahead and conclude here, Matt with the Las Vegas Raiders,

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 3>who you know you talk about on paper, you mentioned

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 3>that early in the podcast, how the games have to

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 3>get played and all that. Right now, on paper, you

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 3>look at the Raiders and you think like this is

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 3>the team that is looking up at the other three

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 3>in the division just because of what's happened. You know,

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 3>in the off season, you lose Derek Carr, goes out

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 3>to New Orleans. Jimmy g comes in, but there's talk

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 3>about like maybe he's not healthy. You had a surgery

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 3>this offseason. If it's not Jimmy g, it is going

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 3>to be Brian Hoyer's the backup. Is that a place

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 3>where maybe Carson Wentz could wind up like I'm curious

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 3>what you think about the quarterback position there in Las

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 3>Vegas because to me and I had, you know, Trevor

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:41.960
<v Speaker 3>Sikama on for the NFC South and we talked about

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 3>how I think Derek Carr has been underrated for a

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 3>long time. To say goodbye to a quarterback like that

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 3>and now have a question mark, what do you think

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 3>is the Chiefs you know, fan and some of the

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 3>covers of Chiefs with this Raiders quarterback situation that right

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 3>now it's kind of up in the air.

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 5>It's interesting because for the first time in a long

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 5>time in my tenure here for sure, because Derek Carr

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 5>arrived in Oakland and in Las Vegas in fifteen twenty sixteen.

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 5>It's strange him not being there anymore because he was

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 5>the constant. He was always the stable, solid, you know

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 5>what you're gonna get kind of quarterback. I think Derek

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 5>Carr was underrated. He gave the Chiefs some trouble. Sometimes

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 5>we look back at the twenty twenty season. The Chiefs

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 5>lost to the Chargers in Week seventeen, but Chad Henney

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 5>started none of the Chiefs starters play that doesn't really count.

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 5>The only other game the Chiefs lost in the regular

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:33.920
<v Speaker 5>season that year was to the Raiders at home in

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 5>Week five. It doesn't really make sense when you look

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 5>back at it, because the Raiders didn't even make the

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 5>playoffs that season. But the Raiders with Derek Carr were

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 5>just consistently competitive. You really never had to worry about

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 5>are they just going to lay an egg? It never

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 5>really happened, and when they decided to move on from him,

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 5>it did surprise me. Now I get they just wanted

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 5>to turn the page and kind of move on with

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 5>their franchise and find their next guy, But we don't

0:33:57.480 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 5>really know who that next guy is at the time.

0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 5>Being Jimmy Garoppolo, like I mentioned earlier, is a solid player.

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 5>He's been to a Super Bowl, he's been to NFC

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 5>Championship games. But he's also getting up there in age.

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:10.800
<v Speaker 5>Is Jimmy the quarterback of the future for the Raiders.

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 5>He kind of feels more like a he's there for

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 5>three or four years kind of guy. And with the

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 5>questions about his health this summer, is he going to

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:21.800
<v Speaker 5>be ready for Week one? I don't know the answers

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 5>to those questions, so we'll see. Of course, he's reunited

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:29.279
<v Speaker 5>with his former offensive coordinator from New England in Las

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 5>Vegas now, so there's that synergy there. But for the

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:34.880
<v Speaker 5>first time in a long time, I really don't know

0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 5>what to expect from the Raiders offensively, and for years

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 5>now we all kind of knew what to expect. So

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 5>it's a strange thing breaking down this Raiders offense. But

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 5>they have good players. Josh Jacobs is a heck of

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:49.319
<v Speaker 5>a player at running back, DeVante Adams is a top

0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 5>five receiver in the NFL, and Hunter Renfro is a

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:55.359
<v Speaker 5>very good, underrated player at wide receiver two. So they

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 5>have weapons, But is the quarterback situation. Is that confusion

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 5>going to hold them back?

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 2>We'll see.

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:03.680
<v Speaker 3>That's where I was gonna go. Is the weapons. Also

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 3>talk about Jacoby Myers, who was a good player up

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 3>here for the Patriots play against the Dolphins twice a

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:10.720
<v Speaker 3>year for so long. I think he's a great number

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 3>two to kind of round in that role between Adams

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 3>and Renfro there. So if Jimmy g is good to go,

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 3>we know he can play at a higher level. And

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 3>if that's the case, this offense, to me, would have

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 3>a chance to be one of the better offenses in

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:23.279
<v Speaker 3>the NFL. We'll find out about the defense here in

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:25.239
<v Speaker 3>a second, but I just think, you know, looking at that,

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 3>it's so interesting because you mentioned Josh McDaniels. Jimmy g

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:32.720
<v Speaker 3>started his career there with the Patriots, and he played

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:35.400
<v Speaker 3>really well, albeit in a very short sample size the

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 3>year that he filled in for Tom Brady for a

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 3>couple of games and actually got injured. But then he

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.320
<v Speaker 3>goes to San Francisco and plays in a different system

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 3>under Kyle Shanahan that you know, I thought accentuated his

0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 3>shrinks there as well. So now he goes back to

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 3>the old offense. I'm just really curious see how he

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 3>adapts to, you know, going back to an offense that

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:53.399
<v Speaker 3>he was good in but wasn't really where he made

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 3>his name in the NFL playing in that Shanahan offense

0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:58.439
<v Speaker 3>in San Francisco. So we talk about the offense there,

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 3>let's go over to the defensive side of the full. Well,

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 3>it was not good last year. They really struggled to

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:04.320
<v Speaker 3>get off the field just to you know, limit points

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 3>in that end. But a pretty busy offseason back there,

0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 3>going out and getting Marcus Epps Brandon face on. They

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 3>went out and got let's see a lot offensive guys

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 3>here too, Jacobe Myers, OJ Howard on offense. But as

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:16.839
<v Speaker 3>you look at this defense, because you mentioned, you know,

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 3>a lot of those Chiefs and Raiders games kind of

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:21.440
<v Speaker 3>go shot for shot and lots of point tolls in

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:23.440
<v Speaker 3>the past. You're looking at more shootouts this year for

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 3>this Raiders defense because they added some pieces. But I

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 3>think still a little bit ways to go there on

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:28.760
<v Speaker 3>that Raider of defense.

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:31.839
<v Speaker 5>Well, I respect their pass rush a lot because Max

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:35.320
<v Speaker 5>Crosby is a top five pass rusher in the NFL,

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:39.360
<v Speaker 5>such a good player, relentless kind of player. Chandler Jones

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 5>wasn't quite what they expected when they signed him last offseason,

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 5>but he's still Chandler Jones. And they added Tyree Wilson

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:48.400
<v Speaker 5>in the draft out of Texas Tech. He kind of

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 5>slid down to them in the first round, and I

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 5>think he was one of the best picks of the

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 5>first round for any team. And it pains me to

0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:57.880
<v Speaker 5>say that about the Raiders. So their pass rush is

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 5>legitimate and I think will be one of the better

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 5>pass rushes in the NFL, and that helps everyone else

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 5>at the second level and at the third level of

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 5>their defense. So I'm curious to see if their pass

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:09.720
<v Speaker 5>rush can be as good as it is on paper

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 5>this season. It was really good at times last year,

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:17.399
<v Speaker 5>but despite the presence of all these great players, Max

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 5>Crosby was kind of carrying the load. If Chandler Jones

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:24.799
<v Speaker 5>and if Tyree Wilson can kind of help with that,

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 5>if they can be impact players this season for the Raiders,

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 5>their defense has a chance to be competitive. But it

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 5>really hinges on the guys that they've invested in, because

0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 5>Max Crosby can't do it all by himself.

0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:38.320
<v Speaker 3>New defensive coordinator there that we know well here in Miami,

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 3>Patrick Graham joins there as well, trying to get that

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:42.959
<v Speaker 3>defense heading in the right direction, and I scheme change

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:45.680
<v Speaker 3>for them should I think help as well. So good

0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 3>stuff there, Matt. I think that pretty much covers the

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:50.360
<v Speaker 3>entire AFC West here. The Dolphins will play the Raiders

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:53.360
<v Speaker 3>here week eleven Sunday, remember the nineteenth to one o'clock

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:55.719
<v Speaker 3>kickoff here at hard Rock Stadium. Let's go ahead and

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 3>finish with the podcast. What we have for all these

0:37:57.520 --> 0:38:00.840
<v Speaker 3>divisional previews with our superlatives. And I told you before

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 3>we came on that some of the guys have picked

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 3>their entire squad for the most part, and rightfully.

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 4>So.

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:08.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, fran Duffy gave us almost all Eagles in

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 3>the NFC East, and I think that's totally fair. The

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:13.760
<v Speaker 3>defending NFC champions. We're now talking about the end defending

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 3>NFL champions and the Kansas City Chiefs, So it's only

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 3>fair we talk about that and have the idea that

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:21.840
<v Speaker 3>you might go that direction. But quarterback, who is the

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:24.879
<v Speaker 3>best quarterback here? It's a silly question in the AFC West.

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:26.840
<v Speaker 5>Matt, Yeah, you know what I'm going to say is

0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:29.760
<v Speaker 5>Patrick Mahomes. I believe Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 5>in the NFL, and rightfully. So what's nuts is the

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 5>guy's not even twenty eight years old yet. And I

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 5>don't think it's me being a homer to say that

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 5>he has a real shot at being one of the

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.160
<v Speaker 5>greatest to ever play the game when it's all said

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:46.200
<v Speaker 5>and done. It's frankly incredible what he's done in his

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 5>young career. He's only played eighty career regular season football games,

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 5>and he is the most passing yards, the most passing touchdowns,

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 5>the highest passer rating, and the most completions of any

0:38:56.760 --> 0:39:00.760
<v Speaker 5>quarterback through eighty career regular season games in NFL history.

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:02.000
<v Speaker 2>That's one thing.

0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 5>Like a lot of guys have great stats and it

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:08.879
<v Speaker 5>doesn't always translate to wins, but Patrick also has. He's

0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:14.040
<v Speaker 5>epic incredible postseason wins. He has two Super Bowl championships,

0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 5>two Super Bowl MVPs, and he's the first player since

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:19.399
<v Speaker 5>Kurt Warner in nineteen ninety nine to win Super Bowl

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:22.840
<v Speaker 5>MVP and NFL MVP in the same season, doing so

0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:26.600
<v Speaker 5>this past year, I frankly cannot believe he's our quarterback.

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:29.200
<v Speaker 5>At times, I don't know how we as Chiefs fans,

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 5>got this lucky. But to answer your question, I believe

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:34.160
<v Speaker 5>he is the best quarterback in the AFC West.

0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't think you even have to say one of

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 3>the best of all time. I think he's trending in

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 3>the direction to be the guy right now. Just when

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:41.160
<v Speaker 3>you look at him, I mean that the eyeball test,

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 3>right he is, unlike Anthony we've seen before, the best

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:48.319
<v Speaker 3>non quarterback player on offense in the division. Receivers, running backs,

0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:50.920
<v Speaker 3>tight ends, offensive line. Who do you got, I've.

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Got Travis Kelcey. I know I'm the Chiefs guy.

0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:55.400
<v Speaker 5>And I'll give it to the Chiefs here, but I

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:58.920
<v Speaker 5>truly believe that Travis Kelcey is not just the greatest

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:00.839
<v Speaker 5>tight end of all time. And that's saying a lot

0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:03.239
<v Speaker 5>because we have Tony Gonzalez here in Kansas City as well,

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:05.720
<v Speaker 5>and I love Tony Gonzalez. I really believe Travis Kelsey

0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:07.439
<v Speaker 5>is the greatest tight end to ever play the game.

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 5>And he's also one of the greatest pass catchers to

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 5>ever play the game. And because he's a tight end,

0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:14.879
<v Speaker 5>I think at times we kind of pigeonhole him into well,

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:17.440
<v Speaker 5>he's the greatest tight end. We don't talk about him

0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 5>as a pass catcher. But the guy has seven consecutive

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 5>one thousand yard seasons. Mike Evans is the only guy

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:26.720
<v Speaker 5>in the NFL to do that currently as well.

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Think about that. That's unbelievable.

0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 5>So many great players out there that they just get

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:33.320
<v Speaker 5>hurt or they have a year where it just wasn't

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 5>the ball wasn't coming to him, or it wasn't their

0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:39.719
<v Speaker 5>best season. Travis Kelcey, knock onwood consistently every single year

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:42.799
<v Speaker 5>is going to give you one thousand yards, eight or

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 5>more touchdowns, and it's just unbelievable how he's gotten better

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:49.120
<v Speaker 5>with age. I really think that Kelsey and my homes

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 5>are going to go down as like a Montana Rice

0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 5>kind of well. And the fact that we are watching

0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:58.960
<v Speaker 5>them live and particularly for Chiefs fans, is just hard

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 5>to believe. So Travis Kelce for me, is the best

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 5>non quarterback in this division because I really believe he's

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 5>one of the top five pass catchers overall regardless of

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:09.760
<v Speaker 5>position in the league.

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 3>Every year you go to the final statistics page, it's

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:16.280
<v Speaker 3>wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver, Travis Kelce, then wide receiver,

0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 3>like it's just he's the only tight end there. Every

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:20.320
<v Speaker 3>single year. It's always fun to see that he definitely

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:23.080
<v Speaker 3>has changed that position for the better going forward. This

0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:25.279
<v Speaker 3>is the one spot I think we might go away

0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:26.879
<v Speaker 3>from the Chiefs, but I wouldn't blame you, because there's

0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 3>a player on the Chiefs that I think fits this

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 3>category as well. But I think every team has a

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 3>guy that might fit here. The best defensive player in

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:33.680
<v Speaker 3>the AFC West.

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:35.319
<v Speaker 2>Is well, that's a tougher one.

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:38.360
<v Speaker 5>You're right, because the AFC West has some great defensive players.

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 5>I could say Max Crosby, who talked about earlier on

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 5>the Raiders. I could say a number of players on

0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 5>the Chargers, those being like Joey Bosa or Derwin James.

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 5>And the Broncos have some great players as well that

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 5>we talked about, like Patsertan the second I'm gonna go

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:53.920
<v Speaker 5>with my guy, though, I'm gonna go with Chris Jones

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 5>just because of his production meeting the moment as well.

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:02.240
<v Speaker 5>This past season, he had fifteen and a half sacks,

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:06.319
<v Speaker 5>so doing as a defensive tackle his nuts. He's not

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:08.400
<v Speaker 5>playing off the edge a whole lot. He does sometimes,

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:10.920
<v Speaker 5>but he's primarily a defensive tackle, and he racks up

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:13.880
<v Speaker 5>fifteen and a half sacks. His pressure totals are right

0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 5>up there with some of the best defensive ends in

0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 5>the NFL. But also how he came up with huge

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 5>plays in the biggest of moments last year is what

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 5>kind of pushes him over the top for me. Particularly

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 5>the AFC title game. All the national media wanted to

0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:31.479
<v Speaker 5>talk about how he had never gotten a postseason sack

0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:34.439
<v Speaker 5>going into that game, and he not only gets a sack,

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 5>he gets two on Joe Burrow, including the biggest defensive

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:40.439
<v Speaker 5>play of the game when the Bengals have the ball

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:43.279
<v Speaker 5>with forty five seconds left, it's third down, and if

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:45.840
<v Speaker 5>they get thirty or so yards, maybe they have a

0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:49.000
<v Speaker 5>shot at a game winning field goal. In Chris Sacks,

0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:51.319
<v Speaker 5>Joe Burrow, Chiefs get the ball back and go win

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 5>the game. Just like I said with Patrick, when you

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:57.040
<v Speaker 5>have the stats and you have the big plays and

0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 5>the big moments, that's what really does it for me,

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 5>because that's rare in the NFL that both of those things.

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 5>So my answer, yes, I'm a Chief Homer, but my

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 5>answer is Chris Jones, I'm.

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:08.120
<v Speaker 3>Going to for go the last question herecu I know

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 3>the answer. The division champion in the AFC West. We're

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 3>both going to pick the same team. I think a

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:12.360
<v Speaker 3>lot of folks are going to pick them to go

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:14.800
<v Speaker 3>back to the big Game again this year. So Chiefs,

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 3>I think we can both agree, are the favorites right

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:18.760
<v Speaker 3>now to win the AFC West. Agree.

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:21.440
<v Speaker 5>I agree. I'm a strong believer in the fact that

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 5>they got to go do it. I really am a

0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:26.359
<v Speaker 5>disciple of what coach Reid preaches here, where every year

0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:28.440
<v Speaker 5>is a new year. Doesn't matter what you did the

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:31.080
<v Speaker 5>previous year or in the Chiefs case, the previous seven years.

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 5>Every season is new, and the Chiefs are the hunted.

0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:38.279
<v Speaker 5>Everyone wants to take down the Chiefs. The good news

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:41.319
<v Speaker 5>is for Chiefs fans that our guys understand that they

0:43:41.440 --> 0:43:44.080
<v Speaker 5>understand that the other teams in the AFC West are

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 5>tired of looking up at Kansas City. But we have

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 5>what it takes to keep winning this division for years

0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 5>to come. So it's not a given. We don't play

0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 5>football on paper, but right now I believe the Chiefs

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:57.960
<v Speaker 5>have what it takes to win this division.

0:43:58.320 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, before we get that all kicked off, you enjoy

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:03.160
<v Speaker 3>your ring ceremony last night. The office is empty today,

0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:04.319
<v Speaker 3>you said, So why don't you go ahead and tell

0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 3>us what's coming down the pike this summer on Chiefs

0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:08.719
<v Speaker 3>dot com. What do you work on yourself? Matt, just

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:10.879
<v Speaker 3>kind of give us your summer content plan here.

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 5>Well, like you said, it kind of shuts down here

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 5>for a while. Our mandatory mini camp just wrapped up,

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:18.439
<v Speaker 5>so we won't hear from the players or have any

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 5>practices until training camp kicks off in late July. But

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:24.120
<v Speaker 5>if you're interested in the Chiefs and you want to

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:26.319
<v Speaker 5>know kind of what this roster is going to look like,

0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:28.399
<v Speaker 5>I'll have a whole bunch of articles on Chiefs dot

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:31.920
<v Speaker 5>Com over the next several weeks looking at position breakdowns,

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 5>and we're not just talking about the big guys like

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 5>Mahomes and Kelsey. I'm going to be talking about the

0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:38.440
<v Speaker 5>undrafted free agents I have a shot at making this team,

0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:40.759
<v Speaker 5>so keep an eye out for those. And also our

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 5>radio voice. I believe that the best in the history

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:45.720
<v Speaker 5>of the NFL to ever be a radio voice, Mitchell

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:48.520
<v Speaker 5>This him and I have a podcast called Defending the Kingdom.

0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:52.160
<v Speaker 5>We'll have that probably biweekly here over the next month

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 5>or so, just breaking down position groups and what to

0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:57.400
<v Speaker 5>expect from this Chief's team as they look to defend

0:44:57.600 --> 0:45:00.239
<v Speaker 5>their title, but also looking to get away a little

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 5>bit in the weeks to come before we really hit

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:05.600
<v Speaker 5>the grind here in just a few weeks.

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:07.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, come down here and put your feet in the

0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 3>sand for a couple of weeks here. Matt. You've certainly

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:10.839
<v Speaker 3>earned it with a long year, like you talked about,

0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:12.719
<v Speaker 3>going all over the Super Bowl makes for a long

0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 3>season there and the drafting Kansas City as well, so

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:17.000
<v Speaker 3>busy times for the Chiefs. Matt. I appreciate your time today. Man,

0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:18.920
<v Speaker 3>You've really helped us out a ton. Thank you so much,

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:20.120
<v Speaker 3>and enjoy your summer off man.

0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:23.240
<v Speaker 5>Thanks Travis, really appreciate it, really enjoy and love your stuff.

0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:25.240
<v Speaker 5>And I'll see you in Germany in November.

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sir, sounds good. Thank you Matt, and away he

0:45:28.360 --> 0:45:30.960
<v Speaker 3>goes big. Thanks to my guest today, Matt McMullen. Yeah,

0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:31.880
<v Speaker 3>we'll see about that.

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:33.799
<v Speaker 3>I think it would be a whole family trip to

0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:36.400
<v Speaker 3>go out to Germany for the week. So about to

0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:40.759
<v Speaker 3>fly actually today, I fly out this evening with my wife,

0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:42.799
<v Speaker 3>my two children back to the West Coast, and I

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:44.759
<v Speaker 3>am not looking forward to a six hour flight with

0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:47.360
<v Speaker 3>a six month old and a three year old. So

0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:49.760
<v Speaker 3>keep us in your tea's and p's on that flight

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<v Speaker 3>back to Seattle. In the meantime, it's going to be

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:51.960
<v Speaker 3>my time.

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